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3:16 Speaker 8: That is brand new from Rivia. That is called Peace

3:18 Speaker 8: of Mind. Great band from the UK and one of

3:21 Speaker 8: the tracks that we're featuring this week on Matt Connorton Unleashed.

3:25 Speaker 8: That is the American radio premiere of that track. Again

3:27 Speaker 8: that it's a peace of You. I think I said

3:29 Speaker 8: peace of Mind, piece of You rather. The band is

3:32 Speaker 8: called Rivia. And if you are listening live, this is

3:35 Speaker 8: Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios

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3:41 Speaker 8: this Saturday, August nine, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here,

3:44 Speaker 8: of course at the news table, President and account of

3:47 Speaker 8: and joining us, making her return to the show she

3:50 Speaker 8: was on with us a long time ago. Amber Nicole

3:53 Speaker 8: Cannon is here.

3:54 Speaker 9: Hello, Hello, thank you for having me.

3:56 Speaker 8: Welcome back. So what did you talk about when you

3:58 Speaker 8: were on the show before, because we were talking about

3:59 Speaker 8: this off air and it was so long ago. It

4:02 Speaker 8: was in the previous building, but it was like like

4:04 Speaker 8: how many like would you say, like four or five years?

4:06 Speaker 9: Four or five years, it's got to be at this point.

4:08 Speaker 8: Yeah.

4:09 Speaker 10: So I'd founded a company called Uncharted and we teach

4:11 Speaker 10: kids science but trick them into thinking it's art okay,

4:14 Speaker 10: And actually it has since become a nonprofit and we're growing.

4:17 Speaker 10: We've got eight people working all the way from Franklin,

4:20 Speaker 10: New Hampshire down to Lowell, Massachusetts, teaching kids in hands on, explosive,

4:26 Speaker 10: colorful ways.

4:27 Speaker 8: Okay, it's starting to come back to me now because

4:31 Speaker 8: I think that was I think when you were on

4:34 Speaker 8: that might have been one of those times that I

4:36 Speaker 8: told the story of my own. Uh. When I was

4:38 Speaker 8: a kid, I remember how much I hated art class

4:41 Speaker 8: because I felt like they were trying to force me

4:42 Speaker 8: to be artistic and I'm not visually artistic at all.

4:45 Speaker 9: And that's okay, yeah.

4:47 Speaker 8: I thought so. The art teachers did not.

4:50 Speaker 10: It's about exploring what your creativity actually is. Yeah, And

4:55 Speaker 10: you know, really, be honest, teachers in schools are so

4:58 Speaker 10: overworked and tired and they just need all our support

5:01 Speaker 10: and love that they just don't get the resources that

5:05 Speaker 10: really help every kid in the classroom.

5:07 Speaker 8: Right right, no doubt you've got. We should start with

5:11 Speaker 8: You've got a big show coming up.

5:12 Speaker 11: I do.

5:13 Speaker 10: It's amazing. It's my first solo show. It is at

5:17 Speaker 10: the Nashville Public Library on Thursday the fourteenth at six

5:22 Speaker 10: o'clock okay, And the show's been up for about a

5:26 Speaker 10: month and a half, so this is like one of

5:27 Speaker 10: the last chances you get to see it. We're doing

5:29 Speaker 10: like a closing instead of opening because the summer's been wild. Okay,

5:33 Speaker 10: there will be cake because it's also my fortieth birthday party.

5:36 Speaker 10: I just decided you've got to combine these things. We

5:38 Speaker 10: don't have time to celebrate twice.

5:39 Speaker 8: Yeah.

5:40 Speaker 9: But it's actually a big gallery.

5:42 Speaker 10: I didn't even know it was there, and I got

5:44 Speaker 10: to tourt and I was like, I don't even know

5:45 Speaker 10: if I have enough work to fill this space, but

5:48 Speaker 10: it turns out I do, and it's been a wild ride.

5:52 Speaker 10: People have been visiting it and sending me pictures of

5:54 Speaker 10: them visiting it, and I keep going in every week

5:57 Speaker 10: to just you know, finicky touch up hanging tag, yeah,

6:00 Speaker 10: adjust an art piece. But it feels really good.

6:04 Speaker 8: So so it's it's been up for a while. Yes, okay, yes,

6:09 Speaker 8: So how does that work? Can people just go u?

6:12 Speaker 8: I mean outside of the events. Can people just go

6:15 Speaker 8: at any point to any the library and see yes? Okay.

6:19 Speaker 10: And it's pretty family friendly too, because I work with

6:21 Speaker 10: kids a lot, So if you want to bring your

6:24 Speaker 10: kids during the summer break, right right before school starts,

6:26 Speaker 10: get their last bit of reading in before the you know,

6:28 Speaker 10: summer ends. You can totally go check out the art pieces.

6:33 Speaker 10: There are even some pieces that will appeal directly to

6:35 Speaker 10: kids that you can like buy stickers or prints of

6:37 Speaker 10: the are like animals of New Hampshire. And it's a

6:40 Speaker 10: great library it and it's down in the basement. So

6:42 Speaker 10: when you come in the main doors and you turn

6:44 Speaker 10: right and you go down the stairwell on the right,

6:47 Speaker 10: or take the elevator that's that's on the left right there. Okay,

6:51 Speaker 10: you go down and it's this big open space and

6:54 Speaker 10: I've got like really big silks that I made with

6:56 Speaker 10: able and h and then we've got some cyanotypes around

7:00 Speaker 10: on the other side of the wall. There's like this

7:01 Speaker 10: big wall in the middle where you can put art

7:02 Speaker 10: on both sides. So it's big art.

7:06 Speaker 9: It's big art. Turns out I make big art.

7:09 Speaker 8: Well, okay, so tell us about the type of art

7:12 Speaker 8: that you make, because I saw this firm biomedical art.

7:16 Speaker 9: Yeah.

7:16 Speaker 10: So my background is I have a degree in biomedical

7:19 Speaker 10: art from the Cleveland Institute of Art. Hence the untarted

7:21 Speaker 10: thing teaching kids, you know, science through art. I hadn't

7:26 Speaker 10: really been into my formal art practice, you know, in

7:29 Speaker 10: the fine arts for a while. I really, you know,

7:34 Speaker 10: society tells us artists don't make money, so you don't

7:36 Speaker 10: pursue the fine arts, and so I was really pursuing

7:39 Speaker 10: the commercial arts thing with illustration and graphic design and

7:43 Speaker 10: logos and that kind of thing. And I did fine,

7:45 Speaker 10: and I showed that work regularly, but COVID hit and

7:48 Speaker 10: I developed disabilities around the same time, more than I

7:51 Speaker 10: originally had, and I needed a way.

7:54 Speaker 9: To get it out.

7:56 Speaker 10: So I just started making I had to relearn to

7:59 Speaker 10: walk in Manchester during COVID Wow, so I had to

8:03 Speaker 10: walk on the sidewalks in Manchester, which were not conducive

8:06 Speaker 10: to that process. So I would walk for ten minutes,

8:09 Speaker 10: sit down and make a painting for an hour, and

8:11 Speaker 10: come back. And I just did that. Not well, it

8:14 Speaker 10: was part of my physical therapy. I needed to do

8:15 Speaker 10: this interesting and so these pieces have developed into what

8:18 Speaker 10: I think is a big feature in the show called

8:20 Speaker 10: disability frames, where inside each piece is this cute little

8:24 Speaker 10: five by five watercolor, but around it is this massive

8:27 Speaker 10: frame that's more than twice the size of the piece

8:29 Speaker 10: reflecting the challenges I had getting there, whether it was

8:33 Speaker 10: a lack of a sidewalk cut or whether it was

8:37 Speaker 10: just pain that day I just couldn't get out of bed, right,

8:40 Speaker 10: They all reflect the various infrastructure challenges I face. Sometimes

8:46 Speaker 10: it was just wet leaves, right, Like wet leaves were.

8:49 Speaker 9: Very scary for me. I can re point wow.

8:52 Speaker 10: And so that's a big part of the show, is

8:54 Speaker 10: talking about my body and its development through this phase.

8:58 Speaker 8: In my life. One of the things that comes up

9:02 Speaker 8: a lot on this show is well, really a couple

9:06 Speaker 8: of things, but they go together. One is using trauma

9:10 Speaker 8: and challenge and negative experiences to create art out of that.

9:16 Speaker 8: You know, we interview more musicians than anybody, so we

9:20 Speaker 8: talk a lot about, you know, creating music from that.

9:22 Speaker 8: In fact, our guest coming up an hour three, Nancy Manet.

9:26 Speaker 8: You know, we always talk about that with her too,

9:28 Speaker 8: because a lot of what she's been through and informs

9:30 Speaker 8: of the music that she makes, So we always talk

9:33 Speaker 8: about how that's really kind of the best therapy, right,

9:35 Speaker 8: taking something negative and creating something positive, because not only

9:39 Speaker 8: are you creating art, but you're creating something that other

9:42 Speaker 8: people can relate to, so it not only helps you,

9:44 Speaker 8: but it potentially helps other people too. And the other

9:47 Speaker 8: thing that we also that seems to come up a

9:49 Speaker 8: lot on the show is COVID and how people found

9:56 Speaker 8: a lot of ways to be creative during COVID that

10:00 Speaker 8: perhaps would not have happened otherwise. And again, you know,

10:03 Speaker 8: when we're talking to musicians, it's usually you know, well, I,

10:07 Speaker 8: you know, my band and I we had to learn

10:09 Speaker 8: how to email tracks back and forth while we were

10:11 Speaker 8: recording an album because we couldn't all be in the

10:13 Speaker 8: same room because it was very scary and went.

10:15 Speaker 9: On digital skills right exactly.

10:17 Speaker 8: Yeah, and it really forced the pandemic really forced a

10:21 Speaker 8: lot of musicians to open up to things that they

10:24 Speaker 8: they hadn't considered before. Even me, Like, I'm a certified hypnotherapist,

10:29 Speaker 8: and I found myself since the pandemic more open to

10:33 Speaker 8: seeing clients online, you know, instead of feeling like I

10:36 Speaker 8: had to be in the same room with them to

10:37 Speaker 8: properly do a session. So, but but those are two

10:40 Speaker 8: of the things that we talk about a lot, you know,

10:42 Speaker 8: taking taking negative experiences and creating, and also how the

10:46 Speaker 8: pandemic kind of forced people to find new ways to

10:49 Speaker 8: do that or new sources of inspiration to do that.

10:55 Speaker 8: But in your case, I mean it sounds like this

10:58 Speaker 8: was a pretty serious ex example of that, right because

11:01 Speaker 8: because of what COVID did to you and how you

11:03 Speaker 8: had to overcome that and and create art while you're

11:07 Speaker 8: doing that. I mean, that's incredible.

11:08 Speaker 10: Yeah, it uh, it really pointed out a lot of

11:11 Speaker 10: the like challenges to getting around the city too for me,

11:16 Speaker 10: for other people that I maybe just overlooked a lot

11:18 Speaker 10: because I was just zooming through life, you know, and

11:20 Speaker 10: I didn't see people struggling until I was in the struggle,

11:24 Speaker 10: and so I started reaching out to different organizations that

11:27 Speaker 10: supported disabilities like able and agent got to As I healed,

11:30 Speaker 10: I was then able to bring some of my healing

11:32 Speaker 10: to communities outside of myself. And that's why that's why

11:36 Speaker 10: the show is called Body of Work, because it's about

11:38 Speaker 10: bodies and healing and then how when you heal inside,

11:43 Speaker 10: when you begin healing yourself, and I won't ever be

11:45 Speaker 10: fully healed, like, let's be honest, it's more comfort of

11:48 Speaker 10: where I'm at and then finding the next challenge. Yeah,

11:50 Speaker 10: it's it's about then bringing it to others. So that

11:53 Speaker 10: they can maybe find some healing in what you've created.

11:56 Speaker 10: It's it's about connecting with people.

11:59 Speaker 8: Yeah, so now you have experience in the pharmaceutical industry.

12:05 Speaker 1: I do.

12:05 Speaker 8: Actually, Okay, do you still work in the pharmaceutical industry now?

12:08 Speaker 1: No.

12:09 Speaker 10: On Charter takes up most of my time. I also

12:11 Speaker 10: volunteer as a Department of Public Works commissioner so that

12:13 Speaker 10: I can advocate for sidewalks and bike lanes in Manchester,

12:16 Speaker 10: which are very important to people getting around the city.

12:19 Speaker 10: That's how, you know, I turned my sadness and tears

12:22 Speaker 10: into I'm going to work on this problem. And then

12:26 Speaker 10: I got out of pharmaceutical So it's actually kind of

12:29 Speaker 10: a weird story. But I was working on in the

12:31 Speaker 10: informed consent process and I didn't feel like it was

12:33 Speaker 10: true or real, and I couldn't find sponsoring companies for

12:36 Speaker 10: clinical trials that were like interested in actually making it

12:40 Speaker 10: a real informed consent process. You know, they get these

12:43 Speaker 10: like two inch yeah really, but it's thick pieces of

12:46 Speaker 10: paper written at a grade level. Most people don't understand saying,

12:49 Speaker 10: you know, I'm gonna agree to participate in this clinical trial,

12:53 Speaker 10: but then they don't actually understand it, right, And then

12:56 Speaker 10: they get like surprised by something like a spinal tap,

12:59 Speaker 10: and no one wants a surprise spinal tap, right, So

13:03 Speaker 10: I realized I couldn't help the adults. Okay, Ultimately, I

13:07 Speaker 10: think we adults, even myself, we kind of get stuck

13:09 Speaker 10: in our ways and it's harder to open up our

13:11 Speaker 10: brains to new ideas. So I started tutoring some people

13:16 Speaker 10: who are very gifted in science but wanted to improve

13:18 Speaker 10: their art skills because I could. I could bridge that

13:20 Speaker 10: vocabulary channel, if you will, And it worked. And so

13:26 Speaker 10: then one of the kids I was tutoring, their mom

13:28 Speaker 10: was a headmaster's school and said, come here teach year.

13:30 Speaker 10: I was like, yeah, sure, okay, And then within two

13:33 Speaker 10: weeks I was in Claire's Charter school, and within six

13:35 Speaker 10: months I was in all the Title one schools in Manchester,

13:39 Speaker 10: bringing this programming to kids so that when they hit there,

13:43 Speaker 10: when they're in control of their health, they'll be able

13:45 Speaker 10: to talk about it, they'll be able to help their

13:46 Speaker 10: family's health, and they'll be able to navigate the health system.

13:49 Speaker 10: That's really what it like stemmed out of. Of course,

13:51 Speaker 10: we've gone wider, like we're talking about watershed management with

13:54 Speaker 10: the Nature Conservancy who sponsored projects with us and focusing

14:00 Speaker 10: on all around science education.

14:03 Speaker 8: How did so, how did that grow so quickly? I mean,

14:07 Speaker 8: because that's that's impressive that.

14:09 Speaker 10: It's a great question, and if I knew, i'd write

14:11 Speaker 10: a book about it. But I think it was just

14:14 Speaker 10: clearly a passion of mine and I was in it

14:18 Speaker 10: one hundred percent and loved it, and I think that

14:21 Speaker 10: came through it. And I think there's a real need

14:23 Speaker 10: for it too, because you know, we do seem to

14:25 Speaker 10: be lowering the amount of money as a city that

14:28 Speaker 10: we're putting into schools, so other things need to come

14:31 Speaker 10: in to make up that deficit, and that's potentially or

14:34 Speaker 10: it is uncharted coming in and teaching those things. And

14:37 Speaker 10: the kids are hungry for it too, you know. And

14:40 Speaker 10: I have I fully support all the teachers in our schools.

14:43 Speaker 10: They need so much more love and funds and everything

14:46 Speaker 10: to make their lives easier because it should be easier

14:49 Speaker 10: for them, but they are set into this mold that's

14:53 Speaker 10: been created by buyer systems, and unchartered can come outside

14:58 Speaker 10: of that mold and reach the kids that aren't fitting

15:00 Speaker 10: that mold. Okay, So, and I think there's a lot

15:03 Speaker 10: more that don't fit the mold than we realize. Just

15:06 Speaker 10: like people with disabilities, right, we don't fit this, whatever

15:08 Speaker 10: the standard, and I'm using quotations very clearly, whatever the

15:12 Speaker 10: normal is, we don't fit it. And you know, as

15:17 Speaker 10: I get fully more and more immersed and embracing on

15:19 Speaker 10: my disabled identity, I'm seeing it in kids too. Actually,

15:24 Speaker 10: one of the things that's developed is, you know, as

15:26 Speaker 10: I read IEPs for kids and the things I need

15:28 Speaker 10: to be doing to make sure they're learning at the

15:29 Speaker 10: best of their ability, I'm like looking at and going, oh,

15:32 Speaker 10: that's a good idea. I should do that for myself.

15:34 Speaker 2: Oh wow.

15:35 Speaker 10: Yeah, So I'm learning a lot about myself when I'm

15:37 Speaker 10: learning about other people's disabilities, which is also why I

15:39 Speaker 10: try to be so open about mine. Yeah, so that

15:42 Speaker 10: other people can find it faster and with less trial

15:45 Speaker 10: and tribulation than I did. But yeah, the kids have

15:48 Speaker 10: taught me a lot about myself.

15:50 Speaker 8: Oh that's cool. By the way, for people who don't know,

15:52 Speaker 8: what is an IEP.

15:54 Speaker 10: An individual education plan? Okay, yeah, thank you for calling

15:57 Speaker 10: that out.

15:57 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no problem. It's funny. Over the years that

16:00 Speaker 8: term has come up a lot on the show. But

16:02 Speaker 8: but but yeah, but people don't know. You know, if

16:06 Speaker 8: it's not something you've had to directly engage with, you

16:07 Speaker 8: wouldn't know.

16:08 Speaker 9: No, no, you wouldn't know.

16:10 Speaker 8: So now, so what parents who are putting their kids into? Uh,

16:15 Speaker 8: because you you have like a summer camp.

16:18 Speaker 10: We have summer camps right now. So we ran three

16:20 Speaker 10: summer camps at Positive Street Art in Nashua because they

16:23 Speaker 10: are fantastic partners.

16:25 Speaker 8: Oh, somebody from Positive Street Art was was on?

16:27 Speaker 9: Who was was it? Yazz Manny Cecilia?

16:31 Speaker 8: No, there was somebody involved, though I can't remember. It

16:35 Speaker 8: was a musician. Wasn't it a musician? I can't remember.

16:39 Speaker 10: Now there are so many good people that are part

16:41 Speaker 10: of that organization, supporting it because it's doing so much

16:44 Speaker 10: good work.

16:45 Speaker 8: Yeah? Was it Mike McDowell maybe the healer?

16:48 Speaker 12: No, I think I don't remember.

16:53 Speaker 8: That's okay, But but whoever it was, Yeah, but it

16:55 Speaker 8: wasn't any of the three. Yeah, yeas was on the

16:57 Speaker 8: show a long time ago. But it wasn't any of

16:58 Speaker 8: the three people you mentioned. But we have somebody on

17:00 Speaker 8: talking about it. Yeah.

17:01 Speaker 11: Yeah.

17:02 Speaker 10: Uh, they're doing really fantastic work through the city here

17:05 Speaker 10: and like giving opportunities to you know, kids that had

17:09 Speaker 10: to pick different paths in life through various circumstances. And

17:12 Speaker 10: they also work with people with disabilities in really engaging

17:15 Speaker 10: and wholesome ways.

17:17 Speaker 8: Yeah.

17:18 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a big fan. So partnering with them was

17:20 Speaker 10: like a perfect Kismet opportunity. And have a beautiful space, yeah,

17:24 Speaker 10: that we get to work out of with the gallery

17:26 Speaker 10: and the kids getting so inspired.

17:27 Speaker 9: By the artwork around them.

17:29 Speaker 8: That's really colo.

17:30 Speaker 10: And next week we're working with the y w c

17:32 Speaker 10: A for our sy Art Camp. So you'll see us

17:34 Speaker 10: downtown here going around the parks collecting little specimens of

17:37 Speaker 10: bugs and and and spiders and and plants and dirt

17:41 Speaker 10: and we're gonna look at under microscopes and we're gonna

17:43 Speaker 10: learn to draw it and represent it in a science

17:45 Speaker 10: communication kind of way.

17:47 Speaker 8: Oh very cool. Yeah, I remember who it was now,

17:49 Speaker 8: I was Justin Hunt. Is that name familiar to you.

17:53 Speaker 9: I'm not as much on the music side, admittedly, gotcha.

17:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, Justin's Yeah, he's he's actually not a musician, but

17:58 Speaker 8: he came on with an interest story he does. He

18:03 Speaker 8: does a lot of really positive things. I should get

18:05 Speaker 8: in touch with him. We should have him back on.

18:07 Speaker 10: But probably if he's associated with positive street art, probably.

18:10 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I hope I'm thinking of the right person.

18:13 Speaker 8: So now before so, what was your experience like with

18:16 Speaker 8: art before COVID were you? Were you actively?

18:21 Speaker 12: Oh?

18:21 Speaker 10: I never stopped making really truly, so I was. I

18:25 Speaker 10: was working as a professional, like creative director and those

18:28 Speaker 10: kinds of things for different companies through through time, and

18:32 Speaker 10: I always like just kind of doodled. I never stopped

18:34 Speaker 10: like and you can look at the years on the

18:37 Speaker 10: artworks in the show too and kind of see that

18:38 Speaker 10: that was the case, because I do I have a

18:40 Speaker 10: Bachelor of Fine Arts, like it is arts arts, arts,

18:44 Speaker 10: and but I really I don't know. So I come

18:48 Speaker 10: from a long line of scientists, engineers, physicists, that kind

18:51 Speaker 10: of thing, and they were fully supportive of me going

18:53 Speaker 10: into the arts, even if it did make me a

18:55 Speaker 10: little bit of a black sheep.

18:57 Speaker 9: But I had my.

18:58 Speaker 10: Own internalized message that I needed to make money at

19:02 Speaker 10: this whatever I was doing with the majority of my time,

19:04 Speaker 10: I needed to make money, right, and so I really

19:06 Speaker 10: focused on the commercial stuff, making ads and illustrations that

19:10 Speaker 10: would bring in money a lot less self expression. I

19:15 Speaker 10: did a lot with like adornments that I didn't really

19:19 Speaker 10: consider art, whether it was sewing or creating things for

19:23 Speaker 10: my house that really, when I look at it, those

19:25 Speaker 10: are art objects and can are just as valid as

19:28 Speaker 10: anything else to be displayed in a.

19:31 Speaker 9: Gallery.

19:31 Speaker 10: And that came out of some of my relationship with

19:34 Speaker 10: Yazz and through Positive Street are too, recognizing that these

19:38 Speaker 10: everyday creations that we are making, whether it's even just

19:42 Speaker 10: in our life choices, they are art and they are

19:45 Speaker 10: shaping the world around us and should be considered just

19:48 Speaker 10: as strongly as a traditional painting.

19:50 Speaker 8: Yeah, so you've always so when you when you decided

19:55 Speaker 8: to do that and to pursue that degree, did you

19:57 Speaker 8: have family members try to talk you out of it.

20:00 Speaker 9: No one tried to talk me out of it.

20:02 Speaker 8: They did.

20:03 Speaker 10: They did say, you know, art will never pay as much.

20:07 Speaker 9: As engineering, okay, which which is.

20:09 Speaker 10: Funny because when my husband and I graduate college exactly

20:12 Speaker 10: at the same time, technically, I was paid more than

20:14 Speaker 10: he was, and he's an engineer.

20:15 Speaker 9: He quickly surpassed me. But I just negotiated more for.

20:19 Speaker 8: My pay okay, okay, And.

20:21 Speaker 10: You know, I run a small business. Now, I don't

20:23 Speaker 10: mind that kind of talk. But they were supportive in

20:29 Speaker 10: the best ways they could. And they always knew I

20:30 Speaker 10: was some kind of artists. Like you know, my mom

20:33 Speaker 10: was like, even as early as first grades, I's drawing

20:35 Speaker 10: better than I am. I don't, I can't. This isn't

20:38 Speaker 10: an area I can instruct her, And so they'd find me,

20:40 Speaker 10: you know, art lessons at the library and things like that.

20:42 Speaker 10: I watched Bob Ross's religious yeah, oh yeah. And you know,

20:47 Speaker 10: both my parents have their artistic focus. Like my dad

20:51 Speaker 10: was photography growing up and now he makes amazing award

20:53 Speaker 10: winning wooden kayaks. He retire so he can he can

20:56 Speaker 10: do that beautiful thing, and he did it before he retired.

20:57 Speaker 10: My mom is is a noted fibers artists that goes

21:00 Speaker 10: around and gives workshops on spinning and weaving and knitting.

21:06 Speaker 10: I think I think primarily it's the spinning she's into

21:09 Speaker 10: in the weaving, oh wow.

21:10 Speaker 9: But always an artist.

21:12 Speaker 10: They just they chose to pursue the fun making for

21:16 Speaker 10: their right, which is working well for them because they're retired.

21:19 Speaker 9: And comfortable now there you you know.

21:22 Speaker 10: Both based on my generation and time graduating and choices

21:26 Speaker 10: of my own career may never happen.

21:28 Speaker 9: But we'll work towards it. Sure, sure, but I don't.

21:32 Speaker 8: I don't.

21:33 Speaker 10: I think even if I were to retire tomorrow, if

21:35 Speaker 10: I won the lottery or whatever, I'd still do exactly

21:37 Speaker 10: what I'm doing right now.

21:38 Speaker 9: So maybe I am retired.

21:39 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah. And in terms of in terms of the

21:45 Speaker 8: art that you create, because you mentioned that you didn't

21:47 Speaker 8: think or you were uncertain at first when this opportunity

21:50 Speaker 8: to have your art at the nash is it Nashuell

21:53 Speaker 8: a public library? Is that digital that you didn't think

21:56 Speaker 8: you had enough pieces necessarily for I was.

21:59 Speaker 9: I was concerned.

22:00 Speaker 10: Yeah, And I've been focusing on these small pieces out

22:03 Speaker 10: of COVID, right, these things that I could travel with,

22:06 Speaker 10: even taking as I relearned to walk, I had to

22:07 Speaker 10: relearn to ski, so I would take them up on mountains.

22:09 Speaker 10: I'd ski a couple runs and sit there for an

22:11 Speaker 10: hour or two at the lodge and paint and then

22:13 Speaker 10: ski some more. So, like it's a very very compact.

22:16 Speaker 10: But then I just started looking back over my like

22:19 Speaker 10: I just started pulling things out of the woodworks, you know,

22:21 Speaker 10: like how you store everything, and suddenly I've got a

22:23 Speaker 10: massive pile of stuff that I can put in and

22:26 Speaker 10: you know, not limiting myself, right, because I've done a

22:28 Speaker 10: lot of fashion work, okay, and so there's several mannequins

22:31 Speaker 10: in the show with various pieces I've created for my

22:34 Speaker 10: body and other people's bodies. And then that's also why

22:38 Speaker 10: it's called body work because it does it's all has

22:40 Speaker 10: to do with the body, the human body as a

22:42 Speaker 10: biomedical artists. That makes sense because I am just kind

22:44 Speaker 10: of drawn, is like a special interest. And then it's

22:47 Speaker 10: not just my body, it's other people's bodies and the

22:49 Speaker 10: art that goes on their bodies.

22:51 Speaker 13: Yeah.

22:51 Speaker 8: I wanted to ask you more about that too, because

22:53 Speaker 8: the name of the show is body of Work, and

22:54 Speaker 8: I think I think I forgot to mention that earlier.

22:57 Speaker 8: So yeah, can you expand on that a little bit?

22:59 Speaker 8: Why let's call that? And what's your inspiration to call

23:01 Speaker 8: it that?

23:02 Speaker 10: It was that that pulling of the art from different

23:05 Speaker 10: places all over the house. I was like, Okay, this

23:08 Speaker 10: is what I have. How does this all unite? Like,

23:09 Speaker 10: if this is all gonna be one show, I either

23:11 Speaker 10: need to limit it like and give it logs the

23:13 Speaker 10: white space, or is everything relevant? And I began thinking

23:18 Speaker 10: about it, and I started looking at pieces that. I

23:20 Speaker 10: was like, well that's not relevant, but it's got a

23:22 Speaker 10: skull in it. Well that's that's a body part, right.

23:25 Speaker 10: This was created in relationship in response to pain in

23:29 Speaker 10: my body. This was related to my body moving through space.

23:32 Speaker 10: This was a result of my body needing to rest.

23:35 Speaker 10: This was me networking with other people and learning about

23:39 Speaker 10: other people's bodies and helping their bodies engage in art.

23:42 Speaker 10: And this went on my body. And this is a

23:44 Speaker 10: T shirt that goes on my body. And this is

23:47 Speaker 10: a this is a dress form I made of someone

23:49 Speaker 10: else's body. This is a dress form made of my body.

23:51 Speaker 10: And I began realizing it was all about the body.

23:55 Speaker 10: And so it is a little bit of a pun.

23:56 Speaker 10: I love a good dad pun. So it's like a

23:59 Speaker 10: body of work that you can call that writ and

24:01 Speaker 10: artists like, this is my body of work.

24:03 Speaker 9: But it's also very.

24:04 Speaker 10: Relational to a human body, my human body and the

24:08 Speaker 10: body of community that is here in New Hampshire through

24:11 Speaker 10: groups like able and H and others. So it really

24:16 Speaker 10: came about and I was like, oh, it all, it

24:19 Speaker 10: all relates. And there are a few pieces I didn't

24:21 Speaker 10: put in because they didn't relate, even if they were bigger,

24:23 Speaker 10: like pieces that were more focused on my yard or

24:25 Speaker 10: my garden. You could make a case for them to

24:27 Speaker 10: be in. But when I got to it, it really

24:29 Speaker 10: just I was like, this is it. It's it's about disability,

24:34 Speaker 10: it's about community, it's about I don't want to say

24:37 Speaker 10: recovery because that implies like an end, but it's about healing.

24:41 Speaker 8: Yeah, are you how are you doing today physically? I

24:45 Speaker 8: mean at this.

24:46 Speaker 10: Point, yeah, it's very interesting. So my n my idiopathic

24:49 Speaker 10: hypersomnia is well managed.

24:51 Speaker 8: The dots of what what is that?

24:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, No, it's a form of it's like narcolepsy, and

24:56 Speaker 10: it means I sleep a lot when I'm not medicated,

24:59 Speaker 10: so there's a a lot of meds I have to

25:00 Speaker 10: be on to manage that and to be able to

25:02 Speaker 10: drive safely and things like that. But it means I

25:05 Speaker 10: like a really very day, which is great because that's

25:07 Speaker 10: what I turn gives me, boping between kids and whiting

25:10 Speaker 10: grants and interacting with people and that's beautiful. And a

25:14 Speaker 10: lot of it's focused here Manchester, so I can walk

25:16 Speaker 10: or bike to get there, keeping everything as safe as possible,

25:20 Speaker 10: so you know, food for thought out there, bike lanes

25:22 Speaker 10: are an accessibility device, basically infrastructure, because then I can

25:28 Speaker 10: bike and it keeps everyone safe and me safe. And

25:31 Speaker 10: then I've got a number of neuralgias where they cause pain.

25:36 Speaker 10: My hardest one has been pudental neuralgia, but that's been

25:38 Speaker 10: well treated over the last couple of years. But I

25:40 Speaker 10: seem to have developed two more, one in my neck

25:42 Speaker 10: and one in my lower back that I'm going to

25:43 Speaker 10: see a new neurologist for at the end of the month.

25:47 Speaker 10: But we also discovered that my digestion. I haven't been

25:50 Speaker 10: able to digest fat my whole life, So now I've

25:52 Speaker 10: got great new big Horse pills to take for that.

25:53 Speaker 10: But it's great so I can eat out. So my

25:57 Speaker 10: life is really like overall, like if the last time

26:00 Speaker 10: we talked, if you had asked me like, how are

26:01 Speaker 10: you doing, I would have been like, oh, I'm a

26:02 Speaker 10: sick person, but I'm fighting it. And now I feel

26:05 Speaker 10: like I've hit this equo librium that is doable, and

26:10 Speaker 10: it changes from day to day. Holy and I fully

26:13 Speaker 10: admit I took yesterday off and went to the beach,

26:15 Speaker 10: so that's probably contributing to my really.

26:16 Speaker 9: Great feeling today. You have to take rest days.

26:20 Speaker 10: But I couldn't go in the water above my waist

26:22 Speaker 10: because of my new lower back thing. So I'm you know,

26:24 Speaker 10: that's sad. And I can't stand up patta board right

26:26 Speaker 10: now because I'm not allowed to twist. Really, but I'm

26:30 Speaker 10: so in order to stay functional, like at least appearing,

26:34 Speaker 10: I have to do a lot of physical therapy. So

26:37 Speaker 10: like I work with a physical therapist outside the insurance

26:40 Speaker 10: companies because they don't want to pay for all the

26:43 Speaker 10: visits I actually need, and I pay her monthly and

26:45 Speaker 10: she gives me workouts and I do them. So I

26:47 Speaker 10: work out like an hour to two hours most days,

26:51 Speaker 10: and it's I love it. I love that I can

26:55 Speaker 10: do that, like I'm at a place in my life,

26:57 Speaker 10: but it does it means I have to focus on

26:59 Speaker 10: my body like time is more than other people. But

27:02 Speaker 10: ultimately I'm in a good spot.

27:05 Speaker 8: Good.

27:05 Speaker 9: Thanks for asking.

27:06 Speaker 10: It's nice that I get to say that this time.

27:09 Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't it? And this was all, by the way,

27:11 Speaker 8: So this was all the result of COVID.

27:13 Speaker 10: Oh, not a result. COVID had an effect. It did

27:15 Speaker 10: affect my heart, so I lost the ability to walk

27:19 Speaker 10: because I ran a triathlon and it turns out a

27:22 Speaker 10: tenon in my leg was turning the bone, which is

27:25 Speaker 10: not supposed to happen, and they had to remove that.

27:28 Speaker 10: And then so the amount of time that I was

27:30 Speaker 10: immobilized before the surgery and then trying to relearn to

27:33 Speaker 10: walk was caused all that. And then so the narcolepsy

27:37 Speaker 10: or the idiopathic hypersomnia I ate. Narclepsy is like the

27:40 Speaker 10: coverall term. It's a form of that. I got started

27:44 Speaker 10: beting diagnosed in like my late twenties, but I'd probably

27:47 Speaker 10: been suffering through it all through college. Like I was

27:49 Speaker 10: a regular ten hour a day sleeper in college. I

27:51 Speaker 10: never pulled all nighters, very regimented schedules so that I

27:55 Speaker 10: could function. And I do have like a little bit

27:58 Speaker 10: of challenge with my heart COVID. It just doesn't respond

28:02 Speaker 10: the way it should during exercise. Okay, but my physical

28:05 Speaker 10: therapist gives me exercises. It's like this, really like I've

28:08 Speaker 10: always been like a battler of exercise, Like give me

28:10 Speaker 10: the bike and let me go up the hill as

28:12 Speaker 10: hard as I can. Yeah, but you know she's focused

28:15 Speaker 10: way more on this gentle stuff that's hopefully just gonna

28:18 Speaker 10: try to heal the blood vessels and the heart from

28:20 Speaker 10: all that, and it may be something that I have

28:22 Speaker 10: for the rest of my life, but I'll continue fighting

28:23 Speaker 10: it because I want to be a healthy eighty year old.

28:26 Speaker 8: Yeah of course. Yeah. Wow, Well, I'm glad you're doing

28:29 Speaker 8: so much better though. That's excellent. Do you now do

28:33 Speaker 8: you have more art shows planned after this one?

28:35 Speaker 10: I'm gonna look at talking. I haven't done this yet,

28:38 Speaker 10: so I'll reach out. But the Manchester Arts Commission usually

28:41 Speaker 10: allows artwork to be displayed at City Hall, and so

28:44 Speaker 10: for the show in Nashville, I had to purchase insurance

28:46 Speaker 10: for my artwork, so I figure while I have the insurance,

28:49 Speaker 10: i'll do it there as well. These places city places

28:51 Speaker 10: don't have the insurance like a gallery does, Okay, so,

28:54 Speaker 10: and I want to protect my work, so I think

28:56 Speaker 10: I'll try to reach out and try to do a

28:57 Speaker 10: show at City Hall. Okay, But I don't have any

29:01 Speaker 10: shows after that plan. But if you're looking for more shows,

29:04 Speaker 10: I always recommend checking out Positive Street Art and Mosaic

29:07 Speaker 10: Art Collective because they're always doing fantastic things. I just yeah,

29:12 Speaker 10: I love everything they're doing.

29:14 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, Jenny's had her art at Mosaic and also

29:18 Speaker 8: at Terminus Underground in Nashua.

29:20 Speaker 9: Fantastic.

29:20 Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, absolutely absolutely. I didn't know insurance. I didn't

29:24 Speaker 8: know that was a thing for I guess it makes sense.

29:26 Speaker 10: So when all of your life's artwork is all at

29:30 Speaker 10: one room that so many people have access to, I'm

29:32 Speaker 10: not leaving it on insurance.

29:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that makes sense.

29:36 Speaker 10: Like it's it's like I would, I will part with

29:39 Speaker 10: just about all of it for a certain price.

29:41 Speaker 8: But right right, yeah.

29:43 Speaker 10: But at the same time, it's it is my creation

29:46 Speaker 10: and I don't have children, So I guess that's it.

29:49 Speaker 8: Oh, there you go, there you go, very good. So

29:53 Speaker 8: now where should people go online to I assume I mean,

29:56 Speaker 8: obviously you want people to go to the show on

29:57 Speaker 8: the fourteenth, please do Also, I mean, is there art online?

30:02 Speaker 8: I assume I assume it is.

30:03 Speaker 10: Yeah, my my website bioside Creative so b io s

30:07 Speaker 10: ci creative dot com has has all the artwork there,

30:11 Speaker 10: and you can even purchase any of it that you want,

30:13 Speaker 10: including the stickers or prints or the whole on art

30:15 Speaker 10: if you're that kind of wealthy.

30:17 Speaker 9: I'm not.

30:18 Speaker 10: I'm not wealthy enough to purchase my own art. That's Okay,

30:20 Speaker 10: it took so much time for those expensive pieces. But

30:23 Speaker 10: and then you can also follow me on Instagram and

30:25 Speaker 10: that's the same bioside creative. And the library has on

30:29 Speaker 10: their events page the details of the event posted and

30:33 Speaker 10: and do come and let me know you're coming because

30:35 Speaker 10: we're getting cake. So I'm trying to cake for everyone.

30:37 Speaker 8: Nice. By the way, is there anyone else you've met

30:42 Speaker 8: or connected with who uses that term biomedical art?

30:47 Speaker 10: So the so medical illustration is the old school word

30:50 Speaker 10: for it, and the degree program I was in at

30:53 Speaker 10: the Cleveland Institute of Art decided to expand it because

30:56 Speaker 10: that was a.

30:56 Speaker 9: Little old school, okay, and.

30:59 Speaker 10: Biomedical artists do a lot more like I ended up

31:01 Speaker 10: through concentrating on different things with like a minor in

31:05 Speaker 10: technology integrated media, so like video editing, robotics and programming,

31:11 Speaker 10: web development, that kind of thing I ended up with,

31:14 Speaker 10: and that's still biomedical art and still used, like, oh,

31:17 Speaker 10: it's very relevant. Of course, three D modeling and animation

31:20 Speaker 10: is huge in that field because it's used a lot

31:24 Speaker 10: in that degree program changed their name to be a

31:27 Speaker 10: little more modern, but you can think, you know, time

31:30 Speaker 10: goes back to like Leonardo da Vinci Alberch, Duerr Gray

31:35 Speaker 10: of course, of Grey's Anatomy, not the television show Netter.

31:39 Speaker 10: These are all people, famous people. But if you open

31:41 Speaker 10: up any science book that you get in you know,

31:44 Speaker 10: elementary school, high school, college, and there's drawings in it.

31:47 Speaker 9: Someone had to do those.

31:48 Speaker 10: So that's like the old school, low paid aspect of

31:52 Speaker 10: the job. But eventually if you start working with startups

31:54 Speaker 10: and education materials. My favorite is taking like ideas from

31:58 Speaker 10: a physician and putting it in a way that everyone

32:01 Speaker 10: else can understand. It really is like a science communication

32:03 Speaker 10: field where through my drawings and maybe even my writings

32:06 Speaker 10: now at this point, because I've gotten better at writing,

32:08 Speaker 10: I can communicate this idea from the idea originator, you know,

32:12 Speaker 10: a doctor with a new procedure to other people either

32:14 Speaker 10: in their field that need to learn it or to

32:16 Speaker 10: a patient who needs to understand what's going on.

32:18 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, now that's interesting to me because I didn't

32:20 Speaker 8: know you know that term biomedical art. I didn't know

32:22 Speaker 8: if that was something that a term that you had

32:24 Speaker 8: come up with specifically for what you do, or if

32:26 Speaker 8: this was a broader thing. But apparently it is.

32:28 Speaker 14: It is.

32:29 Speaker 10: Yeah, si art is the other one. Yeah, okay, it's

32:33 Speaker 10: a hashtag. I think there's a thing on Sundays or something.

32:35 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh, okay, okay. And by the way, do you

32:38 Speaker 8: hear from people who've if people reached out to you,

32:42 Speaker 8: either who who've gone and seen in person in Nashua

32:46 Speaker 8: or maybe just looked online and have said, you know this,

32:50 Speaker 8: you know I can relate to this.

32:51 Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of people have said it, And even

32:54 Speaker 10: one comment was, you know, just getting to know you

32:55 Speaker 10: better because there is you know, writing in those some

32:58 Speaker 10: of those pieces that talks about medical stuff that may

33:00 Speaker 10: not come up in everyday conversation. I'm fully willing to

33:03 Speaker 10: talk about it, but I don't want to know down

33:05 Speaker 10: everyone on your medical stuff all the time. But it's

33:08 Speaker 10: there if they want to read it. And people reach

33:10 Speaker 10: out and said, you know, it's really great to know

33:11 Speaker 10: these things about you, And then you know others have

33:15 Speaker 10: reached out and been like, you know, you're talking about

33:16 Speaker 10: this gravel to have a gravel piece that talks about

33:18 Speaker 10: how hard it was to get to a restaurant because

33:20 Speaker 10: they said their space was accessible, but it was gravel

33:23 Speaker 10: and I was in a wheelchair so I couldn't get there.

33:26 Speaker 10: So I had to be transported by another individual, and

33:32 Speaker 10: she came up to me and was like, this is

33:33 Speaker 10: like so exactly what I'm experiencing, like going to the beach,

33:36 Speaker 10: trying to walk on the beach, and I remember that too.

33:39 Speaker 10: I had friends that helped me get to the water

33:41 Speaker 10: because it's so rejuvenating for me. And you don't know

33:48 Speaker 10: until you've experienced just how hard that is.

33:52 Speaker 12: The aspect of your own independence and freedom is huge.

33:58 Speaker 12: I have problems with my vision, amongst other things. As

34:01 Speaker 12: you know, I get transportation assistant sometimes through volunteers, through

34:06 Speaker 12: new futures in sight and to be able to make

34:10 Speaker 12: an arrangement to go to my appointment or to have

34:13 Speaker 12: a test on and not have to ask a friend

34:16 Speaker 12: or look for a favor, but it's an actual volunteer

34:19 Speaker 12: who wants to do this, and I get to make

34:22 Speaker 12: the arrangement on my own, And that titch of independence

34:26 Speaker 12: is so huge, and it's given me back a little

34:29 Speaker 12: bit of dignity that I didn't have prior to having

34:33 Speaker 12: access to transportation assistance. And you may not think about that,

34:37 Speaker 12: but if you're somebody that maybe has a little time

34:40 Speaker 12: during the day, if you help somebody get to a

34:43 Speaker 12: doctor's appointment or get to a place to pick up

34:46 Speaker 12: their prescription. Even that is so huge for that individual

34:50 Speaker 12: to feel strong in self and not feel like a

34:54 Speaker 12: burden or a problem or the constant oh God, don't

34:59 Speaker 12: answer the phone me to ry That is like the

35:02 Speaker 12: worst thing in the world is losing your ability to

35:05 Speaker 12: transport yourself.

35:07 Speaker 10: Yes, And I can relate so much because before this

35:11 Speaker 10: current med that I'm on for my sleep challenges, I needed.

35:14 Speaker 10: If I was an evening event, I always needed to

35:16 Speaker 10: go with a friend because I was driving home. It

35:18 Speaker 10: just I wasn't willing to risk it. I've never had

35:20 Speaker 10: an accent because of it, but I'm not willing to

35:22 Speaker 10: hurt someone else because of my own hurts. Right, and

35:25 Speaker 10: now with this met I'm a lot more comfortable, you know,

35:28 Speaker 10: being able to like and so much and small business

35:31 Speaker 10: happens at these evenings of events, you know, just networking

35:34 Speaker 10: and connecting, and it was really hampering my growth. And

35:37 Speaker 10: now that I can do this, we've exploded in our

35:39 Speaker 10: connections with other nonprofits.

35:41 Speaker 12: And especially when you have a disability or something that's

35:45 Speaker 12: going on, the end of the day is like the

35:47 Speaker 12: worst because you don't know what you got.

35:48 Speaker 8: You don't know what you got left.

35:50 Speaker 12: You know, you've tried to space out your time and like,

35:53 Speaker 12: I'm well, they're gonna use one spoon. I'm saving some

35:55 Speaker 12: for later. And then you get to that end of

35:58 Speaker 12: the day. It's so hard and you have to push

36:00 Speaker 12: through and it's I love everything that you are doing.

36:04 Speaker 8: What you're doing.

36:06 Speaker 12: For people like myself, disabled people and people who want

36:11 Speaker 12: to be expressive, people who want to experience life on

36:14 Speaker 12: their own terms. You give them that and that is

36:17 Speaker 12: such a huge thing.

36:19 Speaker 9: Thank you.

36:20 Speaker 12: You don't really it's so you know, it's one of

36:24 Speaker 12: those things that it really stinks, but I can't explain

36:27 Speaker 12: to you what it feels like unless you've lived it,

36:29 Speaker 12: and I hope to. Like, heck, you never live ever.

36:33 Speaker 12: You don't want anybody else in your shoes. But if

36:35 Speaker 12: that little bit of monoicum of understanding comes out of anything,

36:39 Speaker 12: it is such a big deal for everybody in our

36:42 Speaker 12: community and right, and isn't that like most It's one

36:44 Speaker 12: thing I love about New Hampshire and the City of

36:47 Speaker 12: Manchester is there's a lot of community here. There's a

36:50 Speaker 12: lot of people that you put these few people in

36:52 Speaker 12: a room together and it's amazing what can explode for kiddos,

36:56 Speaker 12: for people to disability, just for average anybody, you know,

36:59 Speaker 12: just to have somebody of that in the community that

37:01 Speaker 12: smiles and says, hey, you exist and I really care

37:04 Speaker 12: about you. It's something that I think is kind of

37:07 Speaker 12: unique around here.

37:08 Speaker 10: We're still small enough that those individual meetings, groups of

37:11 Speaker 10: people can get together and make a difference. And I'm

37:14 Speaker 10: seeing it now on Pine Street right they're repaving it

37:16 Speaker 10: and they're redoing the curb cuts. I don't know if

37:18 Speaker 10: you've noticed, but those curb cuts, the tactile stripping has

37:21 Speaker 10: been falling apart because they chose to try plastic product

37:24 Speaker 10: and it didn't work. So they're redoing all those curb cuts.

37:26 Speaker 10: And they're going to put that bike lane on Pine Street,

37:28 Speaker 10: which is fantastic. That will make me getting around because

37:31 Speaker 10: I live just off of Pine Street so much easier.

37:34 Speaker 9: So's there's other.

37:35 Speaker 10: Things like if driving isn't your thing, if you're like antisocial,

37:38 Speaker 10: like I get it. I sometimes then if getting to

37:40 Speaker 10: know someone new is hard, you know, using that click

37:43 Speaker 10: fix on Manchester to point out like a curb cut

37:45 Speaker 10: that has broken so someone using a stroller or a

37:48 Speaker 10: wheelchair can't get up or down.

37:49 Speaker 9: It can be a.

37:50 Speaker 10: Huge thing that the city knows where those things are

37:52 Speaker 10: to repair them, or that the tactile strips for people

37:55 Speaker 10: vision challenges, you know, if they're disappearing, then they may

37:59 Speaker 10: cross it wrong spot and get hurt, and we don't

38:01 Speaker 10: want that. So noting where sidewalks are because sidewalks are

38:04 Speaker 10: a big part of independence for people who are mobile

38:07 Speaker 10: but have other disabilities for getting around the city.

38:10 Speaker 12: Especially with folks who are in wheelchairs, because you cannot

38:14 Speaker 12: bounce a wheelchair up a curve. It hurts and you cannot.

38:18 Speaker 12: And that's a huge one if I ask of anybody

38:20 Speaker 12: of anything in this city. My biggest pet peeve is

38:23 Speaker 12: people who park in handicapped spaces are on the lines.

38:26 Speaker 12: Oh but I'm just getting I'm just getting my dinner. Yeah,

38:29 Speaker 12: but the person in the wheelchair can't get out of

38:31 Speaker 12: their car now because you're parked on the lines. And

38:35 Speaker 12: maybe that person was going to go to an event

38:37 Speaker 12: downtown right like local Racks or whatever, and now they

38:40 Speaker 12: can't get out of their car to go because you've

38:42 Speaker 12: parked your car on the lines just because you need

38:45 Speaker 12: a minute.

38:46 Speaker 8: Don't do it.

38:48 Speaker 12: Please stop doing.

38:49 Speaker 8: See that A lot on Elm Street.

38:50 Speaker 10: Or parking on the sidewalks. Our sidewalks aren't designed for

38:52 Speaker 10: the weight of your vehicle, and it destroys them. And

38:54 Speaker 10: we don't have the budgets to keep repairing sidewalks caused

38:57 Speaker 10: by vehicular unplanned travel. Right, there were a number of

39:01 Speaker 10: businesses around Manchester that while I was using an accessibility

39:05 Speaker 10: placard and unable to walk, that I would you know,

39:08 Speaker 10: I see it. I see it, the people parking in

39:10 Speaker 10: the spots without tags, and I would I would go

39:13 Speaker 10: to do my grocery shopping. Now I couldn'tunload the car,

39:14 Speaker 10: but I could get the groceries, and if I timed

39:16 Speaker 10: it just right, my husband could bring them in right

39:18 Speaker 10: and then, and so I would still contributing to the family,

39:20 Speaker 10: which I wanted to do, right And I would go,

39:22 Speaker 10: I'd get and I couldn't find a parking spot because

39:25 Speaker 10: they were full of people without hangtags. And I went

39:28 Speaker 10: into some of these places and said, you know that

39:29 Speaker 10: this is happening, and they're like, oh, that's not a

39:32 Speaker 10: priority for us, right right, like talk about sending me

39:36 Speaker 10: home crying that way, Like okay, so grocery can't get done, honey, Sorry.

39:40 Speaker 12: Yeah, I can't get milk, can't get eggs, can't get bread.

39:42 Speaker 12: It's that serious, right, It's that significant to be able

39:45 Speaker 12: to have food in your home, you have to be

39:47 Speaker 12: able to get out of the car and back into

39:50 Speaker 12: it safely with everything that you need. So those spots

39:53 Speaker 12: are really a big deal. It's not a convenience thing

39:56 Speaker 12: or I'm just running in. This is about somebody being

39:59 Speaker 12: able to live their life to the fullest in our

40:00 Speaker 12: city and enjoy everything our city has to offer and

40:03 Speaker 12: get the basics stuff. Yeah, well most important.

40:06 Speaker 10: And I'll mention it, you know, the door dash drivers

40:08 Speaker 10: and things. Parking, Yes, spots downtown. I hate that in

40:11 Speaker 10: the restaurants.

40:12 Speaker 12: Especially on Elm Street.

40:14 Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, stop doing it. Don't be so lazy,

40:19 Speaker 10: all right, And you can always call parking. Manchester Parking

40:22 Speaker 10: Apparently they say they like those tickets because they're more

40:24 Speaker 10: expensive tickets.

40:25 Speaker 12: Yeah, they keep raising it, but people still doing it.

40:27 Speaker 12: I think somewhere around five hundred, I think.

40:29 Speaker 10: I yeah, but you can call parking. You know that

40:32 Speaker 10: that helps a person out too.

40:34 Speaker 12: I did once have that happen on Elm Street, and

40:36 Speaker 12: it was a glorious day because there's never usually somebody

40:39 Speaker 12: around when you Yeah, and somebody literally pulled in in

40:42 Speaker 12: front of me and I'm telling this person get out. Yeah,

40:45 Speaker 12: you're stopping somebody from Like this is a big deal.

40:48 Speaker 12: You can't block the way to get onto the curve, no,

40:52 Speaker 12: Like the curb cutouts you're talking about are essential for

40:54 Speaker 12: people to be able to actually get onto the sidewalk

40:57 Speaker 12: or they are stuck in the street.

41:00 Speaker 10: And you don't want to be stuck in the street

41:01 Speaker 10: when you're seated below eye level, right, or if.

41:04 Speaker 12: You're using a navigational cane. Oh yeah, I have death

41:07 Speaker 12: procession issues in certain situations I need to I don't

41:12 Speaker 12: want to be in the street. That's like the worst

41:13 Speaker 12: place in the world to me, because they're more likely

41:16 Speaker 12: to be pitfalls, you know, to fall into and then

41:18 Speaker 12: you get a new injury and a new issue, a

41:20 Speaker 12: new problem.

41:21 Speaker 10: That's definitely happened to me too. Yes, And it's not

41:24 Speaker 10: just people with disabilities that benefit from these things too,

41:27 Speaker 10: like moms and dads with strollers, that's a big thing.

41:30 Speaker 10: Little dogs that have trouble jumping up the curve. Those

41:32 Speaker 10: little dogs are benefiting too. Like, you know, I say

41:35 Speaker 10: this jokingly, but there's a lot of benefit to those

41:38 Speaker 10: infrastructure plans that we have, and we we need to

41:41 Speaker 10: respect them so that the whole world is a better place.

41:44 Speaker 12: And if you want people to be involved in the

41:46 Speaker 12: world around you, you have to make it accessible. Yeahred percent,

41:49 Speaker 12: I love how you use your artwork. I really love

41:53 Speaker 12: how you use your artwork to express the importance of

41:56 Speaker 12: these things, but in the most creative ways. And it's

42:00 Speaker 12: interesting to hear you talk about the anatomy and the

42:03 Speaker 12: art of the anatomy, right, because I never thought about

42:05 Speaker 12: that would go to school, Like I never thought about

42:07 Speaker 12: my anatomy book.

42:08 Speaker 9: Who threw this stuff? Someone?

42:10 Speaker 12: Somebody did do this stuff. But I have a friend,

42:13 Speaker 12: Megan Bent, who's an artist that does chlorophyll work on

42:17 Speaker 12: leaves where you she's imprinting imagery onto the leaf and

42:23 Speaker 12: she's done things like with spines and things like that.

42:26 Speaker 8: I think you totally like, ve.

42:28 Speaker 9: Got to check that out. I don't know anything about her.

42:30 Speaker 12: When you were talking. That's I was thinking about that.

42:32 Speaker 12: I like, you have to know this person. You have

42:34 Speaker 12: to meet this artist. She's an amazing artist, amazing activist,

42:38 Speaker 12: very much in the fight to make sure people have

42:40 Speaker 12: health care accessibility. So you know, you and I could

42:43 Speaker 12: probably talk about that forever in a.

42:44 Speaker 9: Day, forever, it would never end. We'd write a book,

42:48 Speaker 9: probably ten.

42:51 Speaker 8: Well, we got to the time does go quickly. We

42:53 Speaker 8: need to start to wrap up. But before we do,

42:55 Speaker 8: I want to make sure, so again, remind everybody about

42:57 Speaker 8: the fourteenth and Nashua.

42:59 Speaker 10: Six block Nashua Public Library downstairs. You can get there

43:03 Speaker 10: with an elevator or the stairs. And I'm gonna have

43:06 Speaker 10: cake because we've decided to turn it into my fortieth

43:08 Speaker 10: birthday celebration as well.

43:10 Speaker 8: Happy birthday, thank you.

43:11 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, fortieth and glorious and yeah, just you know,

43:15 Speaker 10: if you can send me a quick message let me

43:18 Speaker 10: know you're coming, so I can make sure I have

43:19 Speaker 10: enough cake.

43:19 Speaker 9: That's awesome.

43:20 Speaker 10: If you don't, you know, just come anyways, we'll figure

43:22 Speaker 10: it out. We'll cut half slices.

43:23 Speaker 9: I don't care.

43:23 Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's it's gonna be a showing on my work. Actually,

43:26 Speaker 10: gon have Jasmine Man there playing a little bit of music.

43:29 Speaker 10: I want to her on the show and I love her,

43:32 Speaker 10: and I'm gonna have mocktails as well, so like see, yeah,

43:36 Speaker 10: it's gonna be great and it's at the public Library,

43:38 Speaker 10: So anyone can come in and check it out. It's

43:40 Speaker 10: it's gonna be a party. I really hope everyone comes

43:42 Speaker 10: out and just kind of flourishes a little bit together.

43:45 Speaker 8: Outstanding, outstanding, And tell people again where they should go online.

43:49 Speaker 10: To bios Yeah yeah, biosci Creative dot com. So it's

43:52 Speaker 10: b io s C. I not a lot of people

43:55 Speaker 10: like p s I No, no, no, it's s C.

43:59 Speaker 10: I like science Bio Sidecreative dot com. And then on

44:02 Speaker 10: Instagram to do follow me on Instagram, I post like

44:05 Speaker 10: sneak shots of the show. Once the show comes down,

44:08 Speaker 10: I'll post full shots, but right now it's just sneak

44:10 Speaker 10: shots because I want you to go if you can. Yeah,

44:12 Speaker 10: but not everyone can. I get that, so you will

44:14 Speaker 10: get shots later on. Okay, it's an accessibility thing, sure,

44:18 Speaker 10: and then you know, you can always look at uncharted

44:20 Speaker 10: as well if you were more interested in the kiddo

44:22 Speaker 10: stuff I get to do.

44:23 Speaker 12: Okay, And the event at the Nationale Public Library is

44:25 Speaker 12: at six pm.

44:26 Speaker 9: Six pm, that's right, excellent until seven thirty.

44:29 Speaker 8: All right, well, very good, very good, well Amber, Nicole Cannon,

44:33 Speaker 8: thank you so much.

44:33 Speaker 9: Thank you for having me. This is fun.

44:35 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we'll do it again. In the future absolutely,

44:38 Speaker 8: And if you are listening live on Saturday, we've got

44:41 Speaker 8: Nancy Manet coming up in the third hour, and so

44:44 Speaker 8: don't go away. We got plenty more Unleash to come.

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