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13:39 Speaker 2: It is that time again, Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Streaming, of course, from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com, slash live for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact and fosho archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday, it is August nine, twenty twenty five. And of course I am not alone.

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14:30 Speaker 2: Lots of great music to start out today's show, and of course we have a very busy show for you. And right now we're going to introduce him without further ADO photographer Andrew Voorhies this year. Hello Andrew, Hello, good morning everybody, Good morning, welcome to the program.

14:44 Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on.

14:45 Speaker 2: And so you are a what would be the proper term photo journalist?

14:49 Speaker 6: Is that?

14:50 Speaker 2: What should we how should we refer to your profession?

14:52 Speaker 12: I would say so, I mean I'm a photographer really generally all around. I mainly do do a lot of political stuff and journalism, but I also do a lot of non photojournalism and non political stuff as well.

15:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are very.

15:09 Speaker 10: Well.

15:09 Speaker 2: How when did you because you're a young man, when did you start? When did you start doing this professionally?

15:13 Speaker 12: Actually, so about a year ago is when I got my first actual camera, which is the camera that I still have today. I first started out going around to like local events, and I actually went down to Boston a lot, because, I mean, being honest, around conquered. There's not really a lot of stuff to photograph over there.

15:35 Speaker 2: Right, Well, well once in a while, they're sure is but we'll get Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah.

15:42 Speaker 12: No, So I I first started out, you know, just going to events and just you know, going around Boston just kind of photographing the city. I started out doing some wildlife stuff, and then I also did some motorsports as well, a lot of stuff with I've done a few things with MX, NHM up an epping and NHMX one on one which is like the dirt bikes and the quad cross and stuff like that. So that was super fun.

16:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. What made you want to get into photography.

16:10 Speaker 12: I was first inspired by photography when I was in eighth grade. I've always been a really big fan of history. Yeah, and you know, in school, our teacher at the time, mister Brown, he would show us a lot of photos of the civil rights movement in World War Two. I was very inspired by those photos because you know, when you take a photo, that's not all you're doing. You're really freezing a moment in time, right, And that's what first interested me in That is not only just the aspect of you know, being outside and you know with a camera, it's also you're you're documenting things.

16:44 Speaker 12: Even if it's something might seem mundane. Sure, you're still freezing that moment in time, you know.

16:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.

16:53 Speaker 12: Remember seeing these photos and being that's what I want to do. I want to get out there, I want to document I mean, because it's important. You know, people need to know what's going on in their communities, and people have a right to know what's going on right right, And it's one thing to hear about an event, but when you see it visually, even through a photo, you get that deeper level of understanding of, oh, this is what happened.

17:18 Speaker 2: Are you? Something that comes up on the show a lot, and we we haven't really talked about it when it comes to photography. We talk about it a lot when it comes to music, but AI and the encroachment of AI for a lot of a better way of putting it into our creative endeavors. And are you I'm curious to get your thoughts on that because now and this is something we'll probably get into a little bit more later too, but now there's it's easier than ever, of course, to create a photo or a video or anything you know, that is AI generated.

17:53 Speaker 2: And it's also but not only does it make it easy to fake things, or easier to fake things than it used, but also it makes it easier for people to say, oh, I don't believe this is real when they see it. And obviously that directly affects what you're doing, because, like you said, when you take a photo of something, you're documenting it. You're creating evidence that this happened, this is an event, this is something that is real. But I mean, how do you feel about how do you feel about AI? And do you feel do you feel threatened by it?

18:23 Speaker 2: Are you concerned about it? Or you're not worried about it?

18:25 Speaker 12: So there is definitely a level of concern when it comes to AI, because I mean AI is supposed to you know, help us, not replace us, right, that is what the intention of AI should be. But we are definitely seeing a lot more now that AI is encroaching on that line of you know, because again, like you just said, there are a lot of people who will now be like, oh, that's fake right now, And it is definitely very damaging when you know, people do that because of tools like that. I think it definitely is something that needs to be regulated because then things will start to, you know, go out of control.

19:08 Speaker 12: Because again, like as as a photographer, I have had people fully on tell me that my photos are fake. Oh yeah, and they are. People are a lot more emboldened to say that because of tools like AI. Right, Like, because you know before like I always say this a lot is you know, the undeniable proof of photographic evidence is one of the most important things that we have. But now we're living in a day and age where that kind of means, hey, I can just type this thing in a chat GPT and generate it right there, So why can't you do the same thing?

19:39 Speaker 7: You know?

19:40 Speaker 12: And it's like, well, I'm not right right, but it definitely is starting to concern me a bit, especially with you know, what just happened, because you do have a lot of people going out there and be like, oh, that's fake, but it's not, sir right right, yeah, so oh yeah, it is definitely a concern for me.

19:59 Speaker 2: Well we should talk because this this is an instance where I assume you didn't expect going into the event where you took photographs that were about to talk about. I assume you didn't expect to go in there and get necessarily the kinds of photos that came out of. Yeah.

20:16 Speaker 12: No, absolutely not. Yes. So, for those who don't know, I covered the neo Nazi demonstration that happened in Conquered at the Capitol Building. There was a fifty to fifty one protest that was being held, but it was kind of the they did try to take it over, but they eventually failed and left. Yeah, but it Yeah, I did not expect to turn on to the road of you know, my capitol building and see that.

20:45 Speaker 2: Yeah.

20:46 Speaker 12: And I once I saw that, I realized people are probably gonna think the same thing, like, oh, there's no way right that. You know, they were here and conquered New Hampshire. So that's why the first thing that I did, I threw my bag in the grond, ripped my camera out and started photographing. You know, because, like I said earlier, photographic evidence is very important because you know, people might not know that it happened, or you know, like we said earlier, people might be like, oh, that didn't happen, this is fake.

21:15 Speaker 12: But then when I show you a photo of it, then you can't really sit there and say it is very important because people need to know and people have a right to know what's going on in their community.

21:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so in that moment, I mean, have you had Have you had any other moments that even approached that in terms of oh my god, I've gotta I gotta hurry up and grab grab my camera and get out there. Yeah.

21:39 Speaker 12: Absolutely so, my friend He's so, I live right on Manchester Street and Conquered, like right next to where all the car dealerships are, you know, Brookside and all of that.

21:49 Speaker 2: I know, I grew up in Conquered. Yeah, I know exactly.

21:52 Speaker 12: My friend Jaden, he actually works at Brookside and one day he sent a video of the apartment building. So this actually happened last month. The apartment building next to brooks Side was on fire.

22:05 Speaker 2: Oh my god.

22:06 Speaker 12: And he was like, you know, he sent that to me and I was like, dude, I got to get over there. So I grabbed my bag, I sped over there. I was like two minutes away. By the time I got there, the fire department like already had the flames you know, dim and down. So, you know, thank you to Conquer Fire Department, all the other fire departments that were there.

22:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it.

22:24 Speaker 12: That was one of the That was probably the first moment where I was like, oh, I need to grab my camera and go and you know, go to this without you know, warning or anything like that. It's a as a photographer, it's definitely another level of adrenaline when it's not a planned thing, right, I imagine, especially something like a fire h so I got there. I photographed the fire department at work and stuff like that, because that's another thing that people need to know about, is events like that and stuff because that also affects a lot of people because you know, after that event, there was a lot of people without homes.

22:56 Speaker 12: Again, it's also very scary thing because you know that that can happen really at any time, right, And it's also good to get those photos for the fire department, you know, so they have those. And yeah, it was very it wasn't necessarily what happened at the Capitol Building type of experience, but it was definitely still a very you know, crazy situation to walk up to and see what was going on.

23:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Do you ever have anything happened where you you you go to photograph something and it winds up? I mean, are you ever disappointed? Like, like, do you ever find something isn't as interesting a photograph as you expected? Or has that ever happened?

23:31 Speaker 11: Oh?

23:31 Speaker 12: Yeah, There's definitely been those times, you know. But I feel like as a photographer, especially like as I gain more experience, you realize how to photograph things like that that might seem mundane or boring and stuff like that. You you really learn and you get that eye of like what I should actually capture instead of just being like, ah, well you know this, this isn't going well. You know, there's definitely that that thing. I try to keep it in the back of my head of you know, let's it's fine to something because there's there's always a story or there's always something to show people out there, you know, as I I kind of mentioned earlier that you know, even though Cockord is kind of a boring place to photograph, as long as you look, there's always something out there.

24:14 Speaker 2: Right right, no doubt. How I want to circle back to AI for a moment, because how do how can you tell like, like, do you have any advice for people who and and whatever we say about it today might not even matter, you know, a year from now, a month from now, who knows, because the technology moves so fast. But like if somebody says to you, for example, well, how do I know this photograph that you took is real? How do I know this is an AI?

24:41 Speaker 7: Like?

24:41 Speaker 2: What can you tell other than while I was there?

24:43 Speaker 10: You know?

24:43 Speaker 2: I mean, what what can you tell them or can't or is there anything you can you can say, really.

24:51 Speaker 12: Well, I have an SD card with raw files. Yeah. Yeah, but obviously I'm not going to show it to someone's house with my SD card and be like, well here you go.

24:59 Speaker 7: Yeah. There.

25:00 Speaker 12: There are definitely ways to tell if an image is AI. There's a lot of things that can factor into it. Is the equality of the image, because like, if if I have an actual camera, obviously it's not gonna look like it was taken off of a potato.

25:15 Speaker 2: Right right. Yeah.

25:16 Speaker 12: The other thing you look for is really just like human anatomy is like is there few extra fingers or are people's faces smudge together and stuff like that.

25:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, has a problem with fingers, Yeah, yeah, definitely.

25:29 Speaker 12: They have a very big problem with you know, getting those features down. So that's important to look for, you know, certain colors. There's things that just wouldn't make sense, you know, like a group of people merging together in like a blob, stuff like that. But it is getting harder and harder to tell. Like I don't know if you've seen the uh I believe it's called the Google VO three.

25:48 Speaker 2: Or something like that.

25:49 Speaker 8: I believe I know of it.

25:51 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like people are able to create these like very realistic looking videos, and you got to look at the progression of AI, like I believe in like twenty twenty three is when it first really started to kind of emerge. If oh, you can create these AI videos of you know, like Will Smith eating spaghetti or something, and now it's merged into and you could clearly tell back then, oh this is AI, like his fingers are like disappearing into his face and stuff like that. But now it's kind of getting the point where it takes longer and longer to kind of look at it and realize, Okay, this is AI.

26:23 Speaker 12: And again, if that's the kind of progression it's had since twenty twenty three, I mean, could you imagine what it's gonna be like two years from now. And it is a very very scary thought because I mean, not only does that come into play when it comes to my job, of people saying this is fake, you got to think what that would do the world, especially when it comes to deep fakes. You know, people can make deep fakes a political leaders, celebrities or even of you, you know what I mean. It's a very real concern.

26:48 Speaker 12: And this is why I say, like it really is something that needs to be regulated because if it's not, it's gonna spiral out of control. And a lot of people think that way, So I don't really know why it's not really happening.

27:01 Speaker 2: I keep seeing these videos that show up in my feet on uh, like on on Facebook, I'll see these shorts of videos of like floods and and and like tsunamis and things. And one of the one of the ways I can always tell. I mean, I'm sure there's some of them that look so real that I can't tell they're fake. But but there is one tell and a lot of these is how the people in the videos react. Like you'll see this huge wave coming and people aren't.

27:27 Speaker 12: Running away, they just standing of some of them.

27:29 Speaker 2: Some of them are running awave, but some of them are just standing there like it's no, like they're not afraid of you know, It's like, okay, that's not how people would react in that situation. Everybody would run.

27:38 Speaker 12: It's like you can tell by their movements too, is like you know what I mean, Like their arm will spin all the way around or something like that. But again, especially when it comes to a lot of you know, older people, uh to say, they they are more attuned to believe things like that, you know, obviously, but and that also poses the other danger of you know, scammers have also been using stuff like that to lure people into just draining their accounts. And it is a very horrible situation and I hope that something is done about it rather sooner than later.

28:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what can be done though, not to Yeah, no, absolutely.

28:15 Speaker 12: So that's the thing is we need to actually have conversations about this and you know, figure something out because it does need to be addressed. And that's where it starts, just having simple conversations with each other and be like, all right, what are we gonna do about this? You know, your stay in local legislators and just bringing it all the way up.

28:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you put this genie back in the bottle. I really don't. I mean, I honestly, I really don't. But but yeah, there are concerns. I mean, obviously a I can do can do some great things too. You know, we we've our first experience with AI actually live on the radio. We there's a couple of Pudo and Udio seem to be the two biggest ones where you can make music using AI yep, and we we did all an experiment on the show. I said, we had something where we had I guess who had canceled or something, but we always find ways to fill the time.

29:06 Speaker 2: So I said, let's, uh, this was something I'd kind of had in the back of my mind. Let's use the Tsuno app because I'd created an account and their free account is actually pretty generous, and let's just create a song live on the air. We'll we'll put in a prompt and we'll create and and oh my god, like they're so good, like they're legitimately good. Like it's not it's not like, oh, this is obviously aiah. You listen to it, you know what I mean. It's it's pretty incredible what what it can do. And you know, and I have mixed feelings about that because on one hand, because of where I come from in my background and what I do, you know, I will always always advocate for artists, for musicians and protecting them and everything.

29:47 Speaker 2: On the other hand, when you type in an idea and it creates this great song for you, it's like, this is pretty cool.

29:54 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it's like, what do you do that plays into it? Is, you know, people's jobs security and it just comes downstreet to like human creativity. No matter what AI can do, at the end of the day, humans created AI, and humans have done those things on their own without AI.

30:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true, Yeah, it's uh. You know you mentioned too deep fake videos. And part of the part of the problem too is people will tend to just broadly speaking, even if you take AI out of the equation, people are easily fooled when they're being told something or shown something that they want to believe. Yeah. You know, we all carry, some people more than others, and we won't get into that, but you know what I'm talking about, but we all carry It's it's part of human nature, some degree of confirmation bias in our brains, and and so we're always all of us are more apt to believe certain things more easily, and so you know, if they comport with what we already think and believe or like to think and believe it.

31:03 Speaker 2: Therefore it's very very because that's the thing too. Even if there are tells, this is part of the problem. Even if there are certain ways that you can tell that something is AI,

31:16 Speaker 2: if you want to be fooled by it, you will be, you know what I mean.

31:19 Speaker 12: Yeah, if you want to be. I mean, even before AI, people were saying things were fake and they didn't believe them and stuff. That's why I truly feel like what I do to this day is still very very important, still relevant, you know, because there are a lot of people out there who might just be like, oh, you're just taking photos. I mean yeah, I mean, if you really want to simple it down like that. But at the same time, especially with AI and all this other stuff, it is very important for you know, people like me to get out there and document things and document things accurately.

31:48 Speaker 12: That's why I get photos of everything. I'm not just taking photos of one side or I'm not just taking photos of a select group of people. I get everything because at the end of the day, no matter what your beliefs are, the truth.

31:59 Speaker 2: Is absolutely oh well said, perfectly said. If you're just joining us, we're talking with photojournalists. Photo journalist tripped on that word. I should just say photographer, Andrew, No, but what you do is more than just photography, so it's important to it's important to get that out. Andrew Vorhees is here with us, and I also want to talk to you about you know, we've been talking about AI technology. Also, phones like your cell phone can take incredible pictures depending on what I mean. Some of the new phones, it's amazing what they can do.

32:32 Speaker 2: Is that a threat to what you do in any way?

32:34 Speaker 12: So when it comes to the phones, I don't believe. So I'm actually very glad that, you know, people who aren't able to get a super expensive or fancy camera can use their phone to document things like this, because there's not always going to be someone with a nice camera around to document things like that. So I actually think it's a good thing that other people have the ability to document events like this, even if it is just a cell phone. Do I think they're gonna take my job? Absolutely not. I mean you gotta look at just the things you can do with cameras.

33:03 Speaker 12: It's just on a whole other level. Yeah, the iPhones that they definitely have, the quality on them has gotten insane, But when we're talking about the level of photos and the storytelling that you can do with a camera, it's just on a whole new level. And I might be a little biased saying this as a photographer, I should. I mean, even before I was a photographer, it's what truly inspired me was photos with actual cameras. I feel like you get you're able to tell more of a story with a camera, and you're able to get a deeper understanding of things when it's actually taken by a camera.

33:38 Speaker 12: Sure, you know, but definitely I am Actually, I do believe it is a good thing that, you know, everyone can have the ability to document events because that is also very important too, absolutely, and you can see all sides in that way, you know. Yeah, And again, like I said earlier, the truth is important, you know whether again, it doesn't matter what your beliefs are as long at the end of the day, as long as the truth is what gets out there, that's what's important.

34:04 Speaker 2: Can you tell? Can can you tell if a picture was taken with a camera or a phone?

34:11 Speaker 12: Absolutely? Yeah, yep. Interesting, interesting, yeah, yep, yeah, it's it's I mean, especially as the photographer, it's very easy to tell. But if if you're not, it's very easy to give you a simple explanation and be like, oh, here, you know what I mean. That would actually be a pretty good test to do, actually, just to you know, test my eye a little bit, right right, Yeah, mainly because like the mainly the way you can tell is the depth of field is like when it comes to cameras crazy, but also I mean just image quality in general, like typically even now, like the more you zoom in with an iPhone, the worst and worse the image gets, you know, But if you're you know, someone like me who has like a two hundred millimeters lens, you can really get in there and it's still crystal clear.

34:55 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, that makes sense, Yeah, makes sense. So what you take the picture with is important.

35:01 Speaker 12: Raight gear is important, absolutely, because.

35:04 Speaker 2: I'm also curious too for anyone who's listening to this conversation who's interested in doing what you do, you know, that's that's something you probably want to impress upon people, right, like what you use you know, Yeah, yeah, it's fine to take pictures with your phone, but to do what you do, you know, you really need a professional camera.

35:22 Speaker 12: Right, yeah, absolutely, and especially like if you do want to do photography, you are definitely going to need a camera. Yeah, it's definitely an important thing. So what I would recommend doing is at first, like anything you know, even with photographers, like Okay, this seems like something I'm interested in, But there are some things where you're like, oh, I'm interested in this, but then you start doing it and you're like, I don't really like this, you know. So my recommendation would be too.

35:47 Speaker 12: Because there's actually a store here in Manchester called Hunts. It's a photos store. They you can actually rent a camera for like the day or the week and stuff, so interesting it would be my recommendation is to rent a camera, you know, for a day or a week or you know, whatever you think is adequate, rent out, you know, because you can actually rent lenses and stuff like that as well, So I would that would be my recommendation was to start out doing that, you know, renting and rent different types of cameras, like rent a Fujifilm or a Nikon or a Cannon or Sony, just to see what feels comfortable to you and what you know, aspects of certain brands that you like, right, yeah, because that is also very important in photography, is you know, it's not people aren't necessary.

36:32 Speaker 12: I mean people are as and you know any other community are very brand heavy. But at the same time it's really you know, just what are you most comfortable with, what do you like using, you know, what specs do you like about certain cameras? So yeah, just renting stuff out and just going out and just really taking pictures of anything. Yeah, like literally anything when you're starting out, just to not only be like, hey do I actually like this what I'm doing right now, and also learning the mechanics of the camera, learning you know, all that stuff, and just learning what to photograph, learning how to photograph it.

37:06 Speaker 12: It was very I mean I'm still definitely learning. I mean, no matter what you do, there's always room to learn and grow, and it's very very interesting. As someone who's very passionate about the work that I do, it's I'm always down to learn everything that I can when it comes to photography. So that that is another thing I would recommend is just learn. Yeah, you know, I have, like the majority of what I've learned I've done on my own with you know, YouTube and talking to those around me.

37:30 Speaker 7: You know.

37:31 Speaker 12: So that's the other aspect too, is you know, joining clubs, talking to other photographers, stuff like that can go a really long way.

37:37 Speaker 2: I wonder how many people are interested in doing this, but they but then they become overwhelmed because we kind of live in a culture where a lot of things well, now you're you're very young, Jenny and I were Gen X, so we're like the last generation that actually grew up pre Internet. And I wonder how many people are are just kind of just they get discouraged because it all is more complicated than maybe they expect, because they think they think it's going to be easy, because so many things are easy.

38:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of of just like you know, again, like taking pictures with your phone. They think, Okay, well I'm gonna be a photographer. Okay, I better get a real camera to do this. Oh there's a lot to learn, like different trying different cameras, like you said, trying different lenses and so forth. It's not like you just okay, now I have a real camera. Now I'm gonna go take some pictures and it's going to be great and I'm a professional. It's not like that. It's like any really, it's like anything else.

38:31 Speaker 2: You have to actually learn and spend the time. Yeah, you know, you've you've put the time in to learn all this stuff. But you know a lot of people they get impatient, they get frustrated, and you know.

38:42 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, and honestly, I've been there. You know, yeah, you know, it's but really, again, once when you're passionate about something. You realize, hey, this is what I want to do. You stick through it, you know, on the highs and the lows. Yep, it is that, like I said, I mean happen to me, and it is definitely a very real thing that can happen where you're like, oh, this super easy. Because before I got a photography I'm like, oh, you're just pointing a camera and pressing a button.

39:04 Speaker 2: There's definitely more than that.

39:06 Speaker 12: But once you you know, sit there and you actually start learning a lot of it just makes I mean, for me, it just like that. It was just super quick and I was like, oh, okay, so that's what this setting does. That's what this does. Okay, awesome, And then you just kind of collectively take all the things that you've learned and just really when it comes to a camera, when you do one thing, it affects something else, so you know what I mean, Like when when you up your ISO, it adds more light into the camera, but it also makes the image more fuzzy, so stuff like that.

39:37 Speaker 12: So like almost every setting that you can mess with, it also messes with something else. And once you learn that really that those basic things you're not necessarily set, but you kind of you can from there, you can just go, you know, and it is definitely a very very interesting process because you know, as a photographer, the weather hates us. Oh yeah, so, and it also goes down to the gear that you have as well. The more gear you have, the different types of gear you have, the more you can do. Really, you can definitely do a lot with you know, I even have right now, you know, as a twenty year old, it doesn't have a lot of money.

40:16 Speaker 12: I only have, you know, one camera body and three lenses. Even with that you can do a lot, yeah, you know. But the the more equipment that you have and the type of equipment that you have, you can do a lot more. You can shoot indoors, you can shoot at night, you can shoot when it's cloudy, stuff like that. So really it might not even come down to you know, what you know and what you don't know. It just comes down to what tools do I have available?

40:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you been in situations you mentioned the weather. Have you been in situations where you needed to photograph something in weather that was challenging?

40:47 Speaker 11: Oh?

40:47 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's especially with you know, only one camera body and three lenses. It happens more more often, especially in the winter, I bet, especially in the winter. And I'm like, ah, because again, like lighting, lighting is a big thing when it comes to me. You know, it's it can be very especially indoors. You know, it like like this right now, it's very you know, well lit room. But if I were to you know, take my camera out, it's not gonna look so light right, especially with my my long lens.

41:16 Speaker 12: But you know, with my one point four you know, fifty lens in here, it would look pretty good. But again that's that's a very very short lens. You can't really zoom in and stuff like that. And that's the other thing. When you zoom in with a camera, it also gets darker as well. So oh okay, yeah, so it's very it can be very challenging when you're in a very big, open room and you're trying to get those you know, close up shots of you know, people talking and stuff like that or just you know, what have you whatever you're photographing.

41:46 Speaker 12: But again, it's just gear. There's there's so much out there. It's insane. Like I could literally look online for like hours and hours and be like, oh I want this, I want that, I want. So it's also very expensive.

41:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Do you have a favorite thing to photograph?

42:04 Speaker 15: Is there?

42:05 Speaker 2: Is there something anything in particular, like political events or is there anything that Yes?

42:10 Speaker 12: So I cover a lot of protest and I would say, not only is it my favorite thing to photograph, but it is definitely the thing that I'm best at.

42:19 Speaker 2: Yeah.

42:19 Speaker 12: Is just you know, telling people's stories of you know, resistance. Yeah, and it's I love. That's another thing that got me really interested in photography was I love talking to people. I love hearing people's stories, you know, the where did you come from? Why are you here? You know, just just learning about people is something that fascinates me.

42:42 Speaker 6: You know.

42:43 Speaker 12: I just love talking to fellow humans, you know, and telling their stories. To be able to not only tell their story, but show people their stories through the visual aspect of photography is just something I love.

42:57 Speaker 2: Yeah.

42:57 Speaker 12: And again it's also very important to document events like that. Again, no matter what your belief is, that's still history, you know what I mean, It's it's still history.

43:06 Speaker 7: Uh.

43:07 Speaker 12: And to be able to be at those events and meet the people that I meet, Uh, it's it's amazing, you know. And it again. It's it's like one of the things that I'm best at.

43:16 Speaker 6: Ye.

43:16 Speaker 12: I mean the quality of images that I've been able to get through those events is just insane, right you know. Also, another another thing that I really love the photograph is the motor the like motorsports.

43:27 Speaker 8: Love it.

43:28 Speaker 2: Oh really, I love it.

43:29 Speaker 12: It's so fun just to watch them jump up on their dirt bikes and stuff like that. It's great. I mean, that's awesome, is it?

43:35 Speaker 11: Ah?

43:36 Speaker 2: I would imagine part of I'm guessing tell me if I'm right that part of what's exciting about that is the challenge of getting like a really good sort of mat Yeah.

43:45 Speaker 12: And when you look back and then when I get home and I look back at my shots, I'm like, oh, it's so cool. Just there's just mid air. It's it's great.

43:52 Speaker 11: Uh.

43:52 Speaker 12: I do also like, I mean wildlife as well. It's just it's so cool. I've gone to the Boston Commons a lot because I mean, the squirrels will just walk right up to you. Oh really, yeah, it's great. I mean I literally have a photo of my uh my friend Bryce with an acorn in his hand, and the squirrels literally just like up against his hands. Really, yeah, grab the acorner hit out of his hand. Yeah, it's just super cool.

44:15 Speaker 8: And I mean a lot of.

44:17 Speaker 12: Street photography stuff is great as well. I mean, you know, I've taken photos of people in Boston just playing guitars on the side of the streets stuff like that. And again, it's like to other people that might seem like super mundane, but you're you're capturing a moment there, yeah, you know, and it's it's just with a camera. It's just it's so cool. Yeah, that's another aspect of love. And I'm like, this is so cool, right, right, Like it's great.

44:38 Speaker 2: Not only that, but if you take a picture of somebody with a guitar, you never know exactly right, You just never know.

44:47 Speaker 12: And that's the other cool aspect of it. And again, it's like when you as a photographer and you take a photo of someone, that's also a conversation initiated.

44:54 Speaker 7: You know.

44:54 Speaker 12: As I mentioned before, I love talking to people, and that's a great way to be like, hey, I got this super cool photo of you. Same time, some people might be like, hey, why did you take a photo of me?

45:03 Speaker 2: Which that's something I'm curious about too, so do you ever have someone who you know you want to take their picture and they and they say no.

45:11 Speaker 12: So I when it comes to me on my own, you know, when I'm out in public, I definitely do tend to ask people first. Or if it's for example, like if someone is you know, playing a guitar or actually like doing something, you know, I tend to take the photo first and then show it to them and then you know, if they want me to delete it, obviously I'm gonna respect their right to privacy and I'm gonna get rid of the photo. But I definitely do make, you know, initiation to actually ask people like, hey, can I take a photo of you?

45:40 Speaker 12: Because again, like I I'm very you know, big on privacy because I mean, I mean everyone should be. It's just respectful and you know, it's just common sense.

45:48 Speaker 2: Yeah.

45:49 Speaker 12: But I mean, I know, at the the rallies and stuff like that, I've had people come up to me and they like, are you a cop? And I'm like, no, really, no, I mean it doesn't really. I mean I got the short hair, I'm a tall yeah, I got my fit white dude who wears khakis and yeah, polo shirts a lot. Yeah, I totally get it, uh, And I totally get you know, people's worry about that stuff. But I'm like, no, I'm not a police officer. And they're like, oh, do you work for the press or something like that. I'm like no, I'm like just a dude, I promise.

46:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm with you, you know, yeah, you know.

46:23 Speaker 12: But I I kind of like laugh at it now, you know what I mean, because I'm like, well, I mean, do you see a bat? Like, no, I'm not a police officer. And it It actually happened a lot yesterday at the I was at the Portsmouth Airport photographing the anti ice protest there, and I did get like around three people who are like, hey, dude, are you are you a cop? And I was like, no, no, I'm not funny, Like I just take pictures like oh that's funny. Yeah, but you know, just having simple conversations with people and be like hey, no, you know, I'm just here to document the event and stuff like that.

47:00 Speaker 2: Yeah.

47:00 Speaker 12: Everyone that I've come across so far has been like Okay, you know, thanks for being here and stuff like that. And I do understand the worry that that. I mean, we do live in you know, pretty sketchy times, right, so I totally understand it.

47:12 Speaker 2: By the way, Todd Air of course from the Hanging Left podcast, and he is in the chat room. He says, love to go out and have you give me a refresher on photography, and he says he loves street photography as well. Very good, and we should mention, of course Todd from the uh yeah, Hanging Left. I guess you're coming on board with us officially, right, absolutely, so we'll have so Andrew and I and Todd. We host the Hanging Left podcast. You can find that online and it is on all your favorite podcasting platforms of course.

47:46 Speaker 2: But yeah, so you must you're with Todd every day, right because you both work on the campaign. We won't get into it in depth here, but the campaign. Do you want to mention the campaign?

47:55 Speaker 7: Ye?

47:56 Speaker 12: So I am a campaign photographer for Sarah Chidzinsky, she's running for congress here in New Hampshire. That's another thing that's that I was like, you know, back to what inspired me to do photography was not just you know, political rallies and protests and stuff like that, but also like my absolute dream is to be a white house photographer. Really, yes, that is I went to d C for my eighth grade field trip, and this was sort of where, like, you know, the first flame began of all. I really want to be a photographer.

48:26 Speaker 12: I've always been interested in history, you know, and you can't really be interested in history without being history and with you know, interested in politics hand in hand. Yeah, you know, it just doesn't really make sense for you to like history and then not like the thing that dictates like all of history.

48:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course.

48:43 Speaker 12: But I remember being there, you know, as like a twelve year old, thirteen year old kid, and I was just like, this is this is where I want to be.

48:51 Speaker 2: Yeah.

48:51 Speaker 12: Again, I had an iPhone at the time, and I was just taking pictures of everything.

48:54 Speaker 2: Yeah.

48:55 Speaker 12: I actually I still have a photo of me in front of the White House and I was like, that's where I want to be. Oh no, okay, I have actually have Pete So's's photo book. He was Obama's chief White House photographer the images. He was actually also Reagan's photographer as well.

49:10 Speaker 16: Yeah.

49:10 Speaker 12: So, I mean it's so interesting. He's an amazing guy, and the the types of photos and the quality of photos that that man was able to produce is insane really. Yeah, he's like, he's like one of those people that I look up to, you know, because I mean that's that's what I want to be right there in the Oval office photographing what's going on. Yeah, you know, it's just, man, I'm just I can nerd out about it for like the longest time. But it's great.

49:37 Speaker 2: Are there are there any specific photos that come to mind of of that are sort of iconic in your mind of of at the White House that that perhaps at gentleman, would you say his name was Pete?

49:48 Speaker 12: So I believe that's how you pronounce his name.

49:51 Speaker 2: Like, are there are there any specific photos you can think of that he's taken that you can describe that the the.

49:56 Speaker 12: One that comes from One of my favorite photos is the photo of Obama and his staff in the situation room during the bin Laden raid.

50:04 Speaker 2: That was the first one I thought of when you mentioned, yeah, photos from the White House. Yeah.

50:11 Speaker 12: I look at that photo almost every day, and it's like to capture a photo like that, it's just it's just insane. Yeah, I mean that, like it just blows my mind, like not only was he there in that moment in that room with all the super important people, he got to document that like that, like that is forever in history because of him. And that's just the thought of that's just insane, you know. And you know, even just like sort of the again what other people might think is like mundane, but like the photos of you know, one of Obama's daughters, like sneaking behind the couch to like surprise him.

50:48 Speaker 12: It's like when you think of the Oval Office, like in my brain, it's a super serious place and all this stuff. But I mean again, at the end of the day, like they're still human, right exactly, especially you know, you know, as young girls growing up in the White House, like they're still going to do all those kid things like you know, scaring or surprising they're dead. It's just that and again you it just shows like the humanity aspect and it's just that is that is one of the things that also I love about photography is just capturing humanity, Yeah, in its purest form.

51:17 Speaker 12: Yeah, and it's it's just great. I love it.

51:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. So that that's the long term goal.

51:22 Speaker 12: That's that's what that would be. To get to d C and to do that, Yeah, that would be insane.

51:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Absolutely, Oh yeah, Todd says too. Yeah, that's an amazing photo. He says, show Matt the protest photo you took of me after the show.

51:43 Speaker 12: I can definitely send that over to you.

51:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, absolutely absolutely. Oh the time goes so quick. Yeah, this has been wonderful. Yeah, you know, and looking forward to talking to you of course on the next hanging left as well. Absolutely, where should people go to uh to follow you online? And if they want to see I assume do you have a website or something where you put a lot of these photos?

52:06 Speaker 3: Are so?

52:07 Speaker 12: I So the website is Friday dash Photography dot com.

52:11 Speaker 2: Okay I do.

52:13 Speaker 12: I also am Friday Photography on uh Facebook as well. So the way to find that really is so the logo with the like Jason Voorhees esque hockey mask its. It's a play on my last name, you know, like Vorhees, Friday Photography, Friday the thirteenth. You know, yeah, a lot of people don't really know what that is, but you know, UH, look it up. Friday the thirteenth. That's a super good horror film. I believe it came out in the round the eighties.

52:38 Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth. Probably I never got I never got into those movies but early eighties, the early eighties.

52:46 Speaker 12: And you can also just search up my name on Facebook as well. I post all my stuff on there, and that's just as an Apple and d R E w V as the victor O O R H E E S. I'm also on Instagram Andrew dot Andrew dot V hold on, okay, let me right.

53:06 Speaker 2: Definitely, we won't make sure people can.

53:08 Speaker 12: Uh there you Andrew dot V thirteen on Instagram.

53:12 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, very good, very good.

53:16 Speaker 12: And for those who use blue Sky, oh yes, I am the camera guy thirteen dot b Sky dot Social.

53:26 Speaker 2: I'll have to find you on Blue Sky if I if I if we're not already connected. I I have Blue Sky, I I have the app on my phone and everything, but I forget to use it, you know what I mean.

53:35 Speaker 12: I'm not gonna lie to you like I do the same thing. I'm like, oh yeah that does exist. And I know a lot of people have switched from X to Blue Sky like that. So yeah, I do need to get on there a lot more.

53:44 Speaker 11: I know.

53:45 Speaker 2: Every every time I'm reminded of it's like, oh I got to do that, and then I I'll forget about it again. Well, very good. Well, Andrew Vorhees, thank you so much.

53:52 Speaker 12: This has been awesome.

53:54 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm sure we'll do it again in the future.

53:56 Speaker 9: Ye.

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