Nazi defenders, we see you. | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Because I had texted you there's Nazis at the capitol, you know, and I had some people like, oh, you shouldn't call people not to use No, dude, these are Nazis. These are actually real deal Nazis. If you look up Blood Tribe online, these white nationalists very openly, blatantly utilize the swastika profess you know, to their their love for Hitler, with their saluting and element all nine. Yeah, and their leader, if I'm not mistaken, has a bolt or the lightning bolt or whatever it is on the tattooed on the side of his face.

0:38 Speaker 2: He's bald. He was actually here in conquered.

0:42 Speaker 1: Not only was he spotted, he was photographed by one of the photographers, and they were Their intention was really to try and intimidate people and try to so fear, and they failed miserably because immediately what we did was not engaged them. We uh, one of our peeps got out their phone and pulled out some choice music and put it up to our bullhorn. And then I actually have my own amplifier with me, so I added mine to the mix to try and bolster the mix, and we just drowned them out. Literally, We're just drowning them out.

1:17 Speaker 1: So yeah, they were saying they weren't calling blood. You know, they say really hateful things. These people are true white supremacists to the absolute degree of definition.

1:29 Speaker 3: Right now. I have something to get off my chest about. And I kind of woke up this morning with this thought in my head. And this isn't directed at anybody specific or you know, so, but I have to say this. So inevitably when you post and we'll probably play the videos. There's a couple of videos that we'll talk about in a minute that they will play and of course for audio only listeners, you'll you'll, you know, we'll describe what's happening in the video in the video, but well, one of them, one of them is is self explanatory.

2:05 Speaker 3: But uh, but so inevitably, and it's it's so predictable, especially in these times, when you start posting this stuff, uh, you know about you know, there's Nazis here, there's video, and and you put up videos and everything. There's there's this reflexive reaction among some people who will then attack you for posting something about you know, there's Nazis here, and and they and and immediately they go to well, you know, they have a First Amendment right to be there and do this. But here's the thing about that.

2:46 Speaker 3: So the people who do that kind of thing, they see something like this and they can't wait to defend the Nazis. They're so excited to just jump in there and say, oh, they have a First Amendment right to be there. They never complete the loop. And here's what I mean by that, And this is the thought that I woke up with today. How come the people who do that, because they're right, they're correct to point out, yes, sure, they do have a first Amendment right. You have a first Amendment right to do whatever you want.

3:15 Speaker 3: You have a first Amendment right to go out and talk about how much you hate brown people, or how much you love the N word, or whatever hateful shit you want to put out into the world. You have a right to do that. Absolutely, you have a first Amendment right. But why can't they ever say because nobody ever says this part. When you post something like that, they never say, yeah, they have a first Amendment right to do that. And by the way, you have a first Amendment right to go on social media and condemn it, but they they never do that.

3:50 Speaker 3: All they do their automatic reflex is defend the Nazis. But they never complete the loop. They never say they have a right to do that. And by the way, you have a right to condemn them for doing that, and I support not only do I support their First Amendment right to do that, but I support your First Amendment right to say, hey, I think this is wrong. They always leave that other part out, And why is that? I would just ask the people, the people who are so eager and so goddamn excited to get on social media and defend the Nazis, And then of course when you call them, when you call them on it, they'll say, oh, I'm not defending what they're doing.

4:32 Speaker 3: I'm just defending their right. Okay, great, you're defending their right. By the way, why don't you defend my right to say these people are bags of shit and I hate them just as much as they hate me. Why don't you defend my right to condemn them? But no, all their anger is directed at you for posting something that Nazis are here. It's it's it's you know, we can say it here. This is an FM radio that is fucked up. And every single person who sees this or hears this. Who does that ship where you see something like that and your immediate reflex response is, oh, I have to defend their First Amendment right, fuck you?

5:09 Speaker 3: How about you defend our First Amendment rights to condemn what they're doing. But you'll never do that, will you.

5:15 Speaker 2: Oh?

5:15 Speaker 3: They never do that. They never do I've not once, I've not once seen one of these Nazi defenders say I will stand up for their First Amendment right to be there. They have a right to be there. Oh and by the way, you are correct also to condemn them, and I defend your right to do that as well. Not once have I ever seen anyone on social media do that. That's my rant.

5:37 Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.

5:39 Speaker 3: I apologize for a swearing and everything. But then.

5:44 Speaker 2: That's why that's why we did it this way.

5:46 Speaker 1: That's that's why we're doing it this way, and so we can speak freely without oh gosh, I'm sorry, huh, I have got to do better with camera, right, all.

5:57 Speaker 3: Right, that's okay, most people are going to listen to the audio anyway.

6:01 Speaker 2: True.

6:05 Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I did respect their First Amendment right to free speech. And if you look at my history dating all the way back to the days when I was a.

6:15 Speaker 2: State route myself. I defended it and I continue to do so.

6:19 Speaker 1: Yes, they have every right to stand there and do their zighail thing. I draw a line when they hold up barriers and stuff, Colonel, they'll be blood. I think it's crossing the line when you're starting to get into a little bit of violence. But that said, in this instance, they did not do that. In this instance, they lined up in front of our state house. They may or may not have been stepping on our permit, but they said their piece. We didn't engage them, but we had the right to our First Amendment, and we used music, We use speeches from Martin Luther King, We use things like that to try to drown out their hate.

7:02 Speaker 1: And that is our right to do, and that's our right to do. And when they did their formation and started doing these military removers, which incidentally, there was a really funny moment where they're trying to be these big badasses not to scare you, and everybody turned to the left and one dude who like totally went to the other direction.

7:23 Speaker 2: Like turned around the opposite way from the rest of them. You little torps, can you you get that pot right.

7:30 Speaker 1: And of course they're all masks right because there's and a lot of people were yelling at them, cowards, take off your masks, yep, this is the way you want to be.

7:39 Speaker 2: Take off your mask, show us who you are towards. And they weren't.

7:43 Speaker 1: They weren't doing that, and they actually started to march out. We did not engage, We did not stop them, We did not prohibit them from their free speech. We had every right to shout them down. I had every right to call them nazi scum, to say that that they're cowards, to call it whatever I damn well fucking felt like saying in that moment. I had every damn right to say short of violence, yep. Yeah, getting good trouble in my tribe. And my tribe is all inclusive. We get in good trouble in my tribe.

8:20 Speaker 1: And that's exactly how we handled that. On the state House grounds, Yeah, where we were all were where we were all, and you know what, and everybody kept setting up their stuff. They weren't stopping us. We kept setting up the tents and the table. So I say we they I mostly sat because I can't.

8:39 Speaker 2: I'm not very.

8:39 Speaker 1: Useful when it comes to setting up tents and things. I have other useful things about me, but it didn't stop us. It didn't stop people from New Hampshire from getting together and telling these out of staters to go fuck themselves that we were don't we don't put up that shit.

8:58 Speaker 2: Here.

9:01 Speaker 3: Miriam is in the chatroom by the way, Actually, well she's not in the she's not in the main chat room, so you probably can't see her. But I open up the Facebook feed. I don't know why some comments show in the actual chat room and some show up separately. But but she did say and conquered that swastika flags. That's repulsive, and thank you for the heads up.

9:21 Speaker 1: What's up?

9:23 Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah.

9:25 Speaker 1: She was there, and I she actually came to protest and actually in to sit with me and to see everybody and interact with the community. And she protested right alongside of us. I did warner of when I saw what was going on. I didn't want anybody to walk into it unprepared. But thankfully we didn't have to put up with them for too long. Yeah, they were short lived, but then they proceeded to march down the street, so we.

9:54 Speaker 3: We have let's see if I can pull this up here, because we've got uh, okay, let's do this one. This is the one where you first. This is the video that you took. Let's see if I can get this to there.

10:11 Speaker 1: We go there.

10:13 Speaker 3: I stopped, all right, yep. So for people listening to the audio, nasty yatsy.

10:26 Speaker 2: Suck, nasty suck, you were drowning them at.

10:31 Speaker 1: Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck.

10:40 Speaker 2: You started by suck because I stuck over.

10:46 Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna little, it's gonna take you the words cads.

10:52 Speaker 2: Yep.

10:52 Speaker 3: So that's the video of them walking through and and of course they're all.

10:58 Speaker 1: We find chant, hate and and that. And like I said, our our method of dealing with them was to try and drown.

11:07 Speaker 2: Them out right, and we successfully did that.

11:09 Speaker 1: I will say when they were at the steps, they were trying very desperately to be loud, but we were louder.

11:15 Speaker 3: Now there's another there's another who I don't want to play that one again. There's another another these guys.

11:21 Speaker 1: Then they proceed out of the New Hampshire State House and they were in a a they're trying to like a military. I do well, I'm for the listeners. I always wanted to give them the view of what happened. So those guys came mar So they're marching out of the State House. They go through the arches, they take them right onto Main Street and they proceed to start marching all the way down Main Street down to where.

11:47 Speaker 2: The co op was.

11:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there's a second video, which was not my video, taking by somebody else on a rooftop and in broad daylight in the middle of Concord, New Hampshire, they attacked some body on the street. There's four of them attacking this one person, and one of them goes out of his way. You're gonna see it in the video. He's gonna go out of his way to get a good five or six wax in with an item, with an object, a weapon, whatever he had in his hand across.

12:20 Speaker 2: The guy's back.

12:22 Speaker 3: Yeah.

12:23 Speaker 2: And the guy himself.

12:24 Speaker 1: Who was being attacked is in a protective pose with his you know, arms up, trying to protect his head and face and kind of tucked in. He's literally trying to protect himself from the four people that are around him.

12:37 Speaker 2: And Matt, I'll let you play the video.

12:39 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at this as it's twenty three seconds here it is come back.

12:46 Speaker 2: He's gone back. It's not an object. I was wrong. Those fists camera in his other hand. He's fucking they're fucking scared.

13:01 Speaker 1: My understanding is they did have a U haul in their tradition, they had a U haul in the parking lot.

13:07 Speaker 3: Yeah.

13:09 Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys, a lot of you have probably seen them. They've showed up around the country. I am assuming that they probably showed up because they saw our protests planned, because it was advertised, we had a permit.

13:22 Speaker 2: It wasn't a secret, non brite. Anybody from New Hampshire, come on down. These guys. Most of them not from New Hampshire. They're not from New Hampshire. A lot of some of them are from Florida. They come from all over the place.

13:34 Speaker 1: That one dude, the founder guy, if I'm not mistaken, is from Maine. Okay, so unfortunately he is a New England dude. But that's the bald guy you see in the videos who isn't wearing the mask. He's the only one really isn't wearing a mask. The rest of them cowards covered had to toe so you can't figure out what they are or who they are. Yeah, and they were highly hitling, like they did that shit in.

14:03 Speaker 2: Front of our state house.

14:05 Speaker 1: And we didn't physically attack them, we didn't try and physically stop them. We tried to silence them with our own voices. And that's why we need more people to come out when we do these events and show up in force and make our voices louder.

14:20 Speaker 3: Right, it's such a waste of life, you know, to to even engage and hate. Because the thing that I always say is, you know you can you can put you know, you can hate people. And there's varying degrees of hate and ignorance and racism and so forth. But when you take it to a degree where I mean, and it's all bad, all all racism and bigotry and and any kind of prejudice is bad. But when you take it to a degree where you're actually putting time and effort and energy and organization into it, Jenny just disappeared from the stream.

14:56 Speaker 3: But when you when you put time and energy and effort into it, it's you're you're you're wasting your life on this stuff. Because here's the thing. You can hate people all you want. You can wish that we lived in some sort of you know, fantasy land ethno state that you have in your mind or whatever it is. But someday you're going to die, and when you die, all the people that you hate so much, whether they're black or brown, or gay or trans or whomever, is the the uh the target of your hatred. At the end of it all, when you're dead and gone, they'll still be here.

15:36 Speaker 3: All the people you don't like will still be here. The white Ethno state that you fantasize about will never exist. It can't. So you're just wasting If this is what you're spending your life doing, putting your energy into this, you're just wasting your life because someday you're going to be dead and gone, and all the people you hate will still be here and you will have accomplished precisely nothing. So you know it doesn't you know, call me a woke liberal or whatever you want to call me, but I think you're wasting your time.

16:14 Speaker 3: I think you're wasting your life on this stuff. So that's that's my view of it. So I'm not sure what. Oh I think Jenny is rejoining us here?

16:28 Speaker 2: Hello?

16:30 Speaker 3: Really all right?

16:32 Speaker 2: I was trying to check the chat messages. Oh accidentally goofed.

16:37 Speaker 3: Oh, I gotcha. Brian Mackie commented on Facebook. He said, scared to show their faces and only a handful, not much of a movement left. I guess, well, but they do feel emboldened. I mean, I can't you know, I say this a lot.

16:51 Speaker 2: There's more of them than you think.

16:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh clearly. I never I can't remember anything like this happening when I was a kid, where you know, they feel so emboldened is to just go out and openly do this stuff. And you know, the political climate in the country is, like I said, a lot of people think racism is cool again, and they're all in, you know, and it's it's really, you know, in some ways we've come so far, and yet in some ways we also seem to be going backward rapidly.

17:19 Speaker 2: I feel like we're going backward a lot lately.

17:22 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are basically KKK with black hoods instead of white ones. Yes, that's the only difference. They're just another version of that. And we as a society in America had progressed beyond that.

17:36 Speaker 2: I thought that that.

17:38 Speaker 1: Kind of behavior wasn't acceptable in the streets because it was a time when the KKK marched proudly down the street in DC. Yes, there was a time when that was widely accepted and it was okay to be racist, and we supposedly were beating that in America.

17:54 Speaker 2: But now we're going backwards. Now we're seeing it. Not only is.

17:59 Speaker 1: It, it's becoming popular, you know, to be a racist. It's so acceptable. You can turn on YouTube and find that any number of videos that people have taken out in public and find somebody saying things that you would never even stay behind a closed door, you know. And that's what scares me to a point. But I like to believe that there's more of us than there are of them, and the more of us that empower each other and become more active and activated, then we can start to because we can't let this win.

18:36 Speaker 1: Right This just happened in Cocking, New Hampshire. They march down the street and assaulted somebody on the sidewalk in main Street, USA and then.

18:46 Speaker 2: Jumped in their U haul. Yeah, like I am.

18:52 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in New Hampshire should be standing up right now and getting together and joining together and saying not in our state right. But unfortunately, like you said earlier, I've been met by some folks who want to attack me for pointing this out right.

19:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very concerned about the First Amendment rights of the Nazis. Couldn't give a shit about your First Amendment right?

19:18 Speaker 2: Or I point out the hate? How dar my video the hate?

19:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, we see you, the people that the Nazi defenders, we see you. We understand why you leave out the part where you know where you say, by the way, Jenny, I also stand for your First Amendment right now, you leave that part out.

19:38 Speaker 2: We see you only.

19:39 Speaker 1: When it agrees with them, then I can have my First Amendment rights.

19:45 Speaker 2: See, that's why you're not really you're not really the true believer that you think you are.

19:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when you can stand in front of a Nazi like I did and not go in the wrong direction, but instead use your own liberties to protect the people around you and yourself.

20:05 Speaker 2: So I'd say join me. Maybe you need to question what side you're on.