Nazi defenders, we see you. | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Because I had texted you there's Nazis at the capitol,

0:03 Speaker 1: you know, and I had some people like, oh, you

0:05 Speaker 1: shouldn't call people not to use No, dude, these are Nazis.

0:09 Speaker 1: These are actually real deal Nazis. If you look up

0:12 Speaker 1: Blood Tribe online, these white nationalists very openly, blatantly utilize

0:18 Speaker 1: the swastika profess you know, to their their love for Hitler,

0:25 Speaker 1: with their saluting and element all nine. Yeah, and their leader,

0:31 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, has a bolt or the lightning

0:35 Speaker 1: bolt or whatever it is on the tattooed on the

0:37 Speaker 1: side of his face.

0:38 Speaker 2: He's bald. He was actually here in conquered.

0:42 Speaker 1: Not only was he spotted, he was photographed by one

0:45 Speaker 1: of the photographers, and they were Their intention was really

0:49 Speaker 1: to try and intimidate people and try to so fear,

0:53 Speaker 1: and they failed miserably because immediately what we did was

0:57 Speaker 1: not engaged them. We uh, one of our peeps got

1:01 Speaker 1: out their phone and pulled out some choice music and

1:05 Speaker 1: put it up to our bullhorn. And then I actually

1:08 Speaker 1: have my own amplifier with me, so I added mine

1:11 Speaker 1: to the mix to try and bolster the mix, and

1:13 Speaker 1: we just drowned them out. Literally, We're just drowning them out.

1:17 Speaker 1: So yeah, they were saying they weren't calling blood. You know,

1:21 Speaker 1: they say really hateful things. These people are true white

1:25 Speaker 1: supremacists to the absolute degree of definition.

1:29 Speaker 3: Right now. I have something to get off my chest about.

1:32 Speaker 3: And I kind of woke up this morning with this

1:34 Speaker 3: thought in my head. And this isn't directed at anybody

1:39 Speaker 3: specific or you know, so, but I have to say this.

1:44 Speaker 3: So inevitably when you post and we'll probably play the videos.

1:48 Speaker 3: There's a couple of videos that we'll talk about in

1:51 Speaker 3: a minute that they will play and of course for

1:54 Speaker 3: audio only listeners, you'll you'll, you know, we'll describe what's

1:58 Speaker 3: happening in the video in the video, but well, one

2:01 Speaker 3: of them, one of them is is self explanatory. But uh,

2:06 Speaker 3: but so inevitably, and it's it's so predictable, especially in

2:10 Speaker 3: these times, when you start posting this stuff, uh, you

2:15 Speaker 3: know about you know, there's Nazis here, there's video, and

2:18 Speaker 3: and you put up videos and everything. There's there's this

2:21 Speaker 3: reflexive reaction among some people who will then attack you

2:29 Speaker 3: for posting something about you know, there's Nazis here, and

2:34 Speaker 3: and they and and immediately they go to well, you know,

2:39 Speaker 3: they have a First Amendment right to be there and

2:42 Speaker 3: do this. But here's the thing about that. So the

2:47 Speaker 3: people who do that kind of thing, they see something

2:51 Speaker 3: like this and they can't wait to defend the Nazis.

2:53 Speaker 3: They're so excited to just jump in there and say, oh,

2:55 Speaker 3: they have a First Amendment right to be there. They

2:58 Speaker 3: never complete the loop. And here's what I mean by that,

3:02 Speaker 3: And this is the thought that I woke up with today.

3:04 Speaker 3: How come the people who do that, because they're right,

3:08 Speaker 3: they're correct to point out, yes, sure, they do have

3:12 Speaker 3: a first Amendment right. You have a first Amendment right

3:14 Speaker 3: to do whatever you want. You have a first Amendment

3:16 Speaker 3: right to go out and talk about how much you

3:18 Speaker 3: hate brown people, or how much you love the N word,

3:21 Speaker 3: or whatever hateful shit you want to put out into

3:25 Speaker 3: the world. You have a right to do that. Absolutely,

3:27 Speaker 3: you have a first Amendment right. But why can't they

3:32 Speaker 3: ever say because nobody ever says this part. When you

3:35 Speaker 3: post something like that, they never say, yeah, they have

3:39 Speaker 3: a first Amendment right to do that. And by the way,

3:43 Speaker 3: you have a first Amendment right to go on social

3:45 Speaker 3: media and condemn it, but they they never do that.

3:50 Speaker 3: All they do their automatic reflex is defend the Nazis.

3:55 Speaker 3: But they never complete the loop. They never say they

3:59 Speaker 3: have a right to do that. And by the way,

4:01 Speaker 3: you have a right to condemn them for doing that,

4:04 Speaker 3: and I support not only do I support their First

4:07 Speaker 3: Amendment right to do that, but I support your First

4:10 Speaker 3: Amendment right to say, hey, I think this is wrong.

4:14 Speaker 3: They always leave that other part out, And why is that?

4:17 Speaker 3: I would just ask the people, the people who are

4:21 Speaker 3: so eager and so goddamn excited to get on social

4:25 Speaker 3: media and defend the Nazis, And then of course when

4:28 Speaker 3: you call them, when you call them on it, they'll say, oh,

4:30 Speaker 3: I'm not defending what they're doing. I'm just defending their right. Okay, great,

4:34 Speaker 3: you're defending their right. By the way, why don't you

4:37 Speaker 3: defend my right to say these people are bags of

4:40 Speaker 3: shit and I hate them just as much as they

4:42 Speaker 3: hate me. Why don't you defend my right to condemn them?

4:46 Speaker 3: But no, all their anger is directed at you for

4:50 Speaker 3: posting something that Nazis are here. It's it's it's you know,

4:54 Speaker 3: we can say it here. This is an FM radio

4:56 Speaker 3: that is fucked up. And every single person who sees

5:00 Speaker 3: this or hears this. Who does that ship where you

5:03 Speaker 3: see something like that and your immediate reflex response is, oh,

5:07 Speaker 3: I have to defend their First Amendment right, fuck you?

5:09 Speaker 3: How about you defend our First Amendment rights to condemn

5:12 Speaker 3: what they're doing. But you'll never do that, will you.

5:15 Speaker 2: Oh?

5:15 Speaker 3: They never do that. They never do I've not once,

5:19 Speaker 3: I've not once seen one of these Nazi defenders say

5:22 Speaker 3: I will stand up for their First Amendment right to

5:25 Speaker 3: be there. They have a right to be there. Oh

5:26 Speaker 3: and by the way, you are correct also to condemn them,

5:29 Speaker 3: and I defend your right to do that as well.

5:31 Speaker 3: Not once have I ever seen anyone on social media

5:35 Speaker 3: do that. That's my rant.

5:37 Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.

5:39 Speaker 3: I apologize for a swearing and everything. But then.

5:44 Speaker 2: That's why that's why we did it this way.

5:46 Speaker 1: That's that's why we're doing it this way, and so

5:48 Speaker 1: we can speak freely without oh gosh, I'm sorry, huh,

5:54 Speaker 1: I have got to do better with camera, right, all.

5:57 Speaker 3: Right, that's okay, most people are going to listen to

6:00 Speaker 3: the audio anyway.

6:01 Speaker 2: True.

6:05 Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I did respect their

6:09 Speaker 1: First Amendment right to free speech. And if you look

6:13 Speaker 1: at my history dating all the way back to the

6:15 Speaker 1: days when I was a.

6:15 Speaker 2: State route myself. I defended it and I continue to

6:19 Speaker 2: do so.

6:19 Speaker 1: Yes, they have every right to stand there and do

6:22 Speaker 1: their zighail thing. I draw a line when they hold

6:27 Speaker 1: up barriers and stuff, Colonel, they'll be blood. I think

6:31 Speaker 1: it's crossing the line when you're starting to get into

6:34 Speaker 1: a little bit of violence. But that said, in this instance,

6:37 Speaker 1: they did not do that. In this instance, they lined

6:40 Speaker 1: up in front of our state house. They may or

6:42 Speaker 1: may not have been stepping on our permit, but they

6:44 Speaker 1: said their piece. We didn't engage them, but we had

6:49 Speaker 1: the right to our First Amendment, and we used music,

6:55 Speaker 1: We use speeches from Martin Luther King, We use things

6:59 Speaker 1: like that to try to drown out their hate. And

7:02 Speaker 1: that is our right to do, and that's our right

7:05 Speaker 1: to do. And when they did their formation and started

7:09 Speaker 1: doing these military removers, which incidentally, there was a really

7:12 Speaker 1: funny moment where they're trying to be these big badasses

7:17 Speaker 1: not to scare you, and everybody turned to the left

7:20 Speaker 1: and one dude who like totally went to the other direction.

7:23 Speaker 2: Like turned around the opposite way from the rest of them.

7:27 Speaker 2: You little torps, can you you get that pot right.

7:30 Speaker 1: And of course they're all masks right because there's and

7:34 Speaker 1: a lot of people were yelling at them, cowards, take

7:36 Speaker 1: off your masks, yep, this is the way you want

7:39 Speaker 1: to be.

7:39 Speaker 2: Take off your mask, show us who you are towards.

7:42 Speaker 2: And they weren't.

7:43 Speaker 1: They weren't doing that, and they actually started to march out.

7:47 Speaker 1: We did not engage, We did not stop them, We

7:50 Speaker 1: did not prohibit them from their free speech. We had

7:54 Speaker 1: every right to shout them down. I had every right

7:58 Speaker 1: to call them nazi scum, to say that that they're cowards,

8:03 Speaker 1: to call it whatever I damn well fucking felt like

8:06 Speaker 1: saying in that moment. I had every damn right to

8:09 Speaker 1: say short of violence, yep. Yeah, getting good trouble in

8:14 Speaker 1: my tribe. And my tribe is all inclusive. We get

8:18 Speaker 1: in good trouble in my tribe. And that's exactly how

8:21 Speaker 1: we handled that. On the state House grounds, Yeah, where

8:27 Speaker 1: we were all were where we were all, and you

8:28 Speaker 1: know what, and everybody kept setting up their stuff. They

8:31 Speaker 1: weren't stopping us. We kept setting up the tents and

8:34 Speaker 1: the table. So I say we they I mostly sat

8:38 Speaker 1: because I can't.

8:39 Speaker 2: I'm not very.

8:39 Speaker 1: Useful when it comes to setting up tents and things.

8:43 Speaker 1: I have other useful things about me, but it didn't

8:47 Speaker 1: stop us. It didn't stop people from New Hampshire from

8:51 Speaker 1: getting together and telling these out of staters to go

8:54 Speaker 1: fuck themselves that we were don't we don't put up

8:57 Speaker 1: that shit.

8:58 Speaker 2: Here.

9:01 Speaker 3: Miriam is in the chatroom by the way, Actually, well

9:03 Speaker 3: she's not in the she's not in the main chat room,

9:06 Speaker 3: so you probably can't see her. But I open up

9:08 Speaker 3: the Facebook feed. I don't know why some comments show

9:12 Speaker 3: in the actual chat room and some show up separately.

9:15 Speaker 3: But but she did say and conquered that swastika flags.

9:18 Speaker 3: That's repulsive, and thank you for the heads up.

9:21 Speaker 1: What's up?

9:23 Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah.

9:25 Speaker 1: She was there, and I she actually came to protest

9:29 Speaker 1: and actually in to sit with me and to see

9:32 Speaker 1: everybody and interact with the community. And she protested right

9:36 Speaker 1: alongside of us. I did warner of when I saw

9:39 Speaker 1: what was going on. I didn't want anybody to walk

9:41 Speaker 1: into it unprepared. But thankfully we didn't have to put

9:45 Speaker 1: up with them for too long. Yeah, they were short lived,

9:48 Speaker 1: but then they proceeded to march down the street, so we.

9:54 Speaker 3: We have let's see if I can pull this up here,

10:00 Speaker 3: because we've got uh, okay, let's do this one. This

10:04 Speaker 3: is the one where you first. This is the video

10:07 Speaker 3: that you took. Let's see if I can get this

10:10 Speaker 3: to there.

10:11 Speaker 1: We go there.

10:13 Speaker 3: I stopped, all right, yep. So for people listening to

10:21 Speaker 3: the audio, nasty yatsy.

10:26 Speaker 2: Suck, nasty suck, you were drowning them at.

10:31 Speaker 1: Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck.

10:40 Speaker 2: You started by suck because I stuck over.

10:46 Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna little, it's gonna take you the words cads.

10:52 Speaker 2: Yep.

10:52 Speaker 3: So that's the video of them walking through and and

10:57 Speaker 3: of course they're all.

10:58 Speaker 1: We find chant, hate and and that. And like I said,

11:03 Speaker 1: our our method of dealing with them was to try

11:06 Speaker 1: and drown.

11:07 Speaker 2: Them out right, and we successfully did that.

11:09 Speaker 1: I will say when they were at the steps, they

11:11 Speaker 1: were trying very desperately to be loud, but we were louder.

11:15 Speaker 3: Now there's another there's another who I don't want to

11:17 Speaker 3: play that one again. There's another another these guys.

11:21 Speaker 1: Then they proceed out of the New Hampshire State House

11:24 Speaker 1: and they were in a a they're trying to like

11:26 Speaker 1: a military. I do well, I'm for the listeners. I

11:32 Speaker 1: always wanted to give them the view of what happened.

11:35 Speaker 1: So those guys came mar So they're marching out of

11:38 Speaker 1: the State House. They go through the arches, they take

11:40 Speaker 1: them right onto Main Street and they proceed to start

11:43 Speaker 1: marching all the way down Main Street down to where.

11:47 Speaker 2: The co op was.

11:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there's a second video, which was not

11:52 Speaker 1: my video, taking by somebody else on a rooftop and

11:55 Speaker 1: in broad daylight in the middle of Concord, New Hampshire,

11:59 Speaker 1: they attacked some body on the street. There's four of

12:02 Speaker 1: them attacking this one person, and one of them goes

12:07 Speaker 1: out of his way. You're gonna see it in the video.

12:09 Speaker 1: He's gonna go out of his way to get a

12:12 Speaker 1: good five or six wax in with an item, with

12:16 Speaker 1: an object, a weapon, whatever he had in his hand across.

12:20 Speaker 2: The guy's back.

12:22 Speaker 3: Yeah.

12:23 Speaker 2: And the guy himself.

12:24 Speaker 1: Who was being attacked is in a protective pose with

12:28 Speaker 1: his you know, arms up, trying to protect his head

12:31 Speaker 1: and face and kind of tucked in. He's literally trying

12:33 Speaker 1: to protect himself from the four people that are around him.

12:37 Speaker 2: And Matt, I'll let you play the video.

12:39 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at this as it's twenty three

12:41 Speaker 3: seconds here it is come back.

12:46 Speaker 2: He's gone back. It's not an object. I was wrong.

12:53 Speaker 2: Those fists camera in his other hand. He's fucking they're

12:58 Speaker 2: fucking scared.

13:01 Speaker 1: My understanding is they did have a U haul in

13:05 Speaker 1: their tradition, they had a U haul in the parking lot.

13:07 Speaker 3: Yeah.

13:09 Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys, a lot of you have

13:12 Speaker 1: probably seen them. They've showed up around the country. I

13:16 Speaker 1: am assuming that they probably showed up because they saw

13:18 Speaker 1: our protests planned, because it was advertised, we had a permit.

13:22 Speaker 2: It wasn't a secret, non brite. Anybody from New Hampshire,

13:26 Speaker 2: come on down. These guys. Most of them not from

13:28 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. They're not from New Hampshire. A lot of

13:30 Speaker 2: some of them are from Florida. They come from all

13:33 Speaker 2: over the place.

13:34 Speaker 1: That one dude, the founder guy, if I'm not mistaken,

13:37 Speaker 1: is from Maine. Okay, so unfortunately he is a New

13:41 Speaker 1: England dude. But that's the bald guy you see in

13:45 Speaker 1: the videos who isn't wearing the mask. He's the only

13:48 Speaker 1: one really isn't wearing a mask. The rest of them

13:51 Speaker 1: cowards covered had to toe so you can't figure out

13:55 Speaker 1: what they are or who they are. Yeah, and they

13:59 Speaker 1: were highly hitling, like they did that shit in.

14:03 Speaker 2: Front of our state house.

14:05 Speaker 1: And we didn't physically attack them, we didn't try and

14:08 Speaker 1: physically stop them. We tried to silence them with our

14:12 Speaker 1: own voices. And that's why we need more people to

14:14 Speaker 1: come out when we do these events and show up

14:17 Speaker 1: in force and make our voices louder.

14:20 Speaker 3: Right, it's such a waste of life, you know, to

14:26 Speaker 3: to even engage and hate. Because the thing that I

14:31 Speaker 3: always say is, you know you can you can put

14:34 Speaker 3: you know, you can hate people. And there's varying degrees

14:38 Speaker 3: of hate and ignorance and racism and so forth. But

14:41 Speaker 3: when you take it to a degree where I mean,

14:43 Speaker 3: and it's all bad, all all racism and bigotry and

14:45 Speaker 3: and any kind of prejudice is bad. But when you

14:47 Speaker 3: take it to a degree where you're actually putting time

14:50 Speaker 3: and effort and energy and organization into it, Jenny just

14:54 Speaker 3: disappeared from the stream. But when you when you put

14:59 Speaker 3: time and energy and effort into it, it's you're you're

15:02 Speaker 3: you're wasting your life on this stuff. Because here's the thing.

15:05 Speaker 3: You can hate people all you want. You can wish

15:09 Speaker 3: that we lived in some sort of you know, fantasy

15:13 Speaker 3: land ethno state that you have in your mind or

15:15 Speaker 3: whatever it is. But someday you're going to die, and

15:20 Speaker 3: when you die, all the people that you hate so much,

15:23 Speaker 3: whether they're black or brown, or gay or trans or whomever,

15:27 Speaker 3: is the the uh the target of your hatred. At

15:32 Speaker 3: the end of it all, when you're dead and gone,

15:35 Speaker 3: they'll still be here. All the people you don't like

15:39 Speaker 3: will still be here. The white Ethno state that you

15:43 Speaker 3: fantasize about will never exist. It can't. So you're just

15:51 Speaker 3: wasting If this is what you're spending your life doing,

15:54 Speaker 3: putting your energy into this, you're just wasting your life

15:57 Speaker 3: because someday you're going to be dead and gone, and

16:00 Speaker 3: all the people you hate will still be here and

16:03 Speaker 3: you will have accomplished precisely nothing. So you know it

16:09 Speaker 3: doesn't you know, call me a woke liberal or whatever

16:11 Speaker 3: you want to call me, but I think you're wasting

16:14 Speaker 3: your time. I think you're wasting your life on this stuff.

16:17 Speaker 3: So that's that's my view of it. So I'm not

16:22 Speaker 3: sure what. Oh I think Jenny is rejoining us here?

16:28 Speaker 2: Hello?

16:30 Speaker 3: Really all right?

16:32 Speaker 2: I was trying to check the chat messages. Oh accidentally goofed.

16:37 Speaker 3: Oh, I gotcha. Brian Mackie commented on Facebook. He said,

16:41 Speaker 3: scared to show their faces and only a handful, not

16:44 Speaker 3: much of a movement left. I guess, well, but they

16:47 Speaker 3: do feel emboldened. I mean, I can't you know, I

16:50 Speaker 3: say this a lot.

16:51 Speaker 2: There's more of them than you think.

16:53 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh clearly. I never I can't remember anything

16:58 Speaker 3: like this happening when I was a kid, where you know,

17:00 Speaker 3: they feel so emboldened is to just go out and

17:03 Speaker 3: openly do this stuff. And you know, the political climate

17:06 Speaker 3: in the country is, like I said, a lot of

17:08 Speaker 3: people think racism is cool again, and they're all in,

17:11 Speaker 3: you know, and it's it's really, you know, in some

17:13 Speaker 3: ways we've come so far, and yet in some ways

17:16 Speaker 3: we also seem to be going backward rapidly.

17:19 Speaker 2: I feel like we're going backward a lot lately.

17:22 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are basically KKK with black hoods

17:25 Speaker 1: instead of white ones. Yes, that's the only difference. They're

17:29 Speaker 1: just another version of that. And we as a society

17:32 Speaker 1: in America had progressed beyond that.

17:36 Speaker 2: I thought that that.

17:38 Speaker 1: Kind of behavior wasn't acceptable in the streets because it

17:41 Speaker 1: was a time when the KKK marched proudly down the

17:43 Speaker 1: street in DC. Yes, there was a time when that

17:47 Speaker 1: was widely accepted and it was okay to be racist,

17:51 Speaker 1: and we supposedly were beating that in America.

17:54 Speaker 2: But now we're going backwards. Now we're seeing it. Not

17:58 Speaker 2: only is.

17:59 Speaker 1: It, it's becoming popular, you know, to be a racist.

18:04 Speaker 1: It's so acceptable. You can turn on YouTube and find

18:08 Speaker 1: that any number of videos that people have taken out

18:11 Speaker 1: in public and find somebody saying things that you would

18:17 Speaker 1: never even stay behind a closed door, you know. And

18:21 Speaker 1: that's what scares me to a point. But I like

18:25 Speaker 1: to believe that there's more of us than there are

18:27 Speaker 1: of them, and the more of us that empower each

18:30 Speaker 1: other and become more active and activated, then we can

18:34 Speaker 1: start to because we can't let this win. Right This

18:37 Speaker 1: just happened in Cocking, New Hampshire. They march down the

18:40 Speaker 1: street and assaulted somebody on the sidewalk in main Street,

18:44 Speaker 1: USA and then.

18:46 Speaker 2: Jumped in their U haul. Yeah, like I am.

18:52 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in New Hampshire should be standing

18:55 Speaker 1: up right now and getting together and joining together and

18:58 Speaker 1: saying not in our state right. But unfortunately, like you

19:02 Speaker 1: said earlier, I've been met by some folks who want

19:08 Speaker 1: to attack me for pointing this out right.

19:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very concerned about the First Amendment rights of

19:14 Speaker 3: the Nazis. Couldn't give a shit about your First Amendment right?

19:18 Speaker 2: Or I point out the hate? How dar my video

19:22 Speaker 2: the hate?

19:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, we see you, the people that the Nazi defenders,

19:28 Speaker 3: we see you. We understand why you leave out the

19:31 Speaker 3: part where you know where you say, by the way, Jenny,

19:34 Speaker 3: I also stand for your First Amendment right now, you

19:37 Speaker 3: leave that part out.

19:38 Speaker 2: We see you only.

19:39 Speaker 1: When it agrees with them, then I can have my

19:44 Speaker 1: First Amendment rights.

19:45 Speaker 2: See, that's why you're not really you're not really the

19:48 Speaker 2: true believer that you think you are.

19:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when you can stand in front of a

19:53 Speaker 1: Nazi like I did and not go in the wrong direction,

19:58 Speaker 1: but instead use your own liberties to protect the people

20:03 Speaker 1: around you and yourself.

20:05 Speaker 2: So I'd say join me. Maybe you need to question

20:08 Speaker 2: what side you're on.