Matt Connarton Unleashed 8-3-25

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0:13 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, surprise, surprise, Welcome to Matt Connorton Unleashed the mcu AF edition. And uh, you know, if you're a boomer or something and you don't know what the AF means, you'll figure it out. But we did kind of tease this that we were going to be doing something like this, and we'll probably be doing a lot more of these going into the future. Jenny is here with me, of course, if you're watching the live stream, you can see her on camera.

0:36 Speaker 3: There.

0:37 Speaker 2: Hi, Jenny, Good morning sunshine.

0:40 Speaker 1: It's afternoon now.

0:41 Speaker 3: Oh, but.

0:44 Speaker 1: Because you used to doing this in the morning, so we do the right.

0:47 Speaker 3: And it feels like morning for me right now.

0:49 Speaker 1: So we do the radio show, of course, every Saturday morning from nine am to twelve noon Eastern from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New I'm sure, and that continues. But we also we've only done a couple of the online only version of the show. I did I did one with Eric Pilcher, and I did one with Gracie Gatto. But we're gonna be doing more of these because there's there's a lot to talk about that just does not fit in, uh to the radio version of the show in terms of the format, which has become very music industry centric, and we do a lot of interviews with artists and so forth.

1:24 Speaker 1: So and that's that's going to continue, but we do want to be creating additional content. And you know, we've got a couple of other podcasts going I think later today at some point. I'm just waiting for him to tell me a time. You know, we have the Hanging Left podcast with Todd Air, and I think tonight, for those of you who are enjoying this alive, I can tell you that tonight, after night two of Summer Slam, I believe Eric Pilcher and I are going to do a live stream of Tough Bumps, kind of reviewing SummerSlam and giving our thoughts.

1:56 Speaker 1: But this is this is something that we'll, like I said, we'll probably doing more of these. Not on a set schedule, you know, the radio show is on a set schedule, but the uh I'm calling this uh like I said mcu AF because the podcast version is of course strictly online, so it's completely uncensored, unfiltered and truly unleashed and we can talk about anything we want to. Let me get the uh oh everything.

2:20 Speaker 2: Okay there, Prince is of course going, wait a minute, what are you paying attention to?

2:27 Speaker 1: So obviously obviously more people will be uh getting this online, so this will be in the podcast feed. I should mention that too. So if you're already subscribed to Matt Connorton Unleashed on your podcast platform of choice, or of course you can go to Matt connorton dot com for all the podcasts, you'll be able to get this there. It'll be in the same feed, so you don't have to subscribe to anything else to get the mcu AF version of the show. Uh, it will be just in the regular podcast feed that you're already subscribed to, if you are subscribed, So just so you're aware, but so uh this of course, like I said, most people will get the podcast version of the show.

3:03 Speaker 1: But if you do happen to be streaming this live, welcome, and you are invited to participate in the live chat, and we might even put your your chat comments on the screen. So and we're streaming this out to Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, LinkedIn even believe it or not, because why not. And let's see, so yesterday, Jenny, you had a pretty interesting day. Do you want to tell us about what you did yesterday? And then some of the developments that came out of that.

3:32 Speaker 2: Yes during that plan yesterday was a planned protest rage against the regime, planned by fifty to fifty one and attended by many groups and many individuals all across the country. And we had our own here right in the capital of Concord, unexpectedly, like right after we arrived and just barely started getting things out to set up, and it was a permanent of Incidentally, somebody said to me, there's Nazis.

4:07 Speaker 3: I'm like what, And I.

4:09 Speaker 2: Turned around and I see this line of individuals in black pants, red shirts, black masks completely covered because they're cowards, with a large Nazi flag, Nazi regalia, a bullhorn, And.

4:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, that really caught me off guard.

4:35 Speaker 2: That was not what I expected to see at the conquered New Hampshire capital.

4:42 Speaker 3: It just it blew me away. To be honest with you, it was. It took a lot of us back in the moment.

4:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can just tell you my initial reaction when I saw this online because I was not with you at the event, you know, at the radio show in the morning and so forth. But my my initial reaction was, I was not surprised by this at all. The political climate that we live in, it honestly nothing shocks me anymore. And you know, I mean, let's be honest, it's uh, there are a lot of people these days who think it's you know, kind of cool to be racist. It's racism is kind of in fashion again in a way that I think it hasn't been in a long time.

5:18 Speaker 1: So none of this surprised me at all, especially when jeez, I was in Conquered one day. What was it for, I was in downtown Conquered. This was a this was probably a couple of years ago. Oh, that's right, And there was there was a uh an event going on at a bookstore in downtown Conquered and there were uh some uh you know, I don't know if they were protesting books because these people don't don't read it other than minekomf of course, but but yeah, there there were some some people in masks. I don't think they had a swastika flag or anything that gave away that they were Nazis, but but they were, But they were there protesting.

5:59 Speaker 1: Uh, probably re education.

6:01 Speaker 2: Same folks, same folks. They're folks. They're known as Blood Tribe. They are a white nationalist organization. They love Hitler, and trust me, I'm not making that up. I'm standing there watching them literally doing the Nazi salute and yelling out Hitler's name while they're doing it.

6:24 Speaker 3: You said exactly, exactly, and.

6:29 Speaker 2: You know, to say, I'm not surprised about racism today, Sure, I'll agree there.

6:35 Speaker 3: However, I was very shocked to be.

6:41 Speaker 2: Face to face with these people, you know, and and personally given my own race, that's kind of alarming to be face to face with people that just want to annihilate your existence. So it was, it's it was very different than my standard. I've been around counter protesters before and whatnot, and when you have a planned protest, you know that's possible. That's why you get your permit and make sure that you're you know, you've got the right to be there and so forth, because unlike some we actually played by the rules and follow the law.

7:22 Speaker 2: So to be face to face with Nazis though, that was different. That felt different, and yeah, how do I.

7:33 Speaker 3: Even worrd this?

7:36 Speaker 2: I actually had instant image in the back of my mind of my family that is on the wall of my home who were murdered and don't exist and only two of the people in the portrait survived. That immediately came into my mind. And at the same time, it was concerned for people around me, because there were parents there with kiddos. Yeah, and there was one guy near me with the kiddo and he didn't see what was going on. And I looked over to him and I said, hey, just you know, this is what's going on.

8:08 Speaker 3: You might want to just get out.

8:10 Speaker 2: Of this area, oh, because I kind of look and yeah, the guy kind of Oh, one of the.

8:17 Speaker 1: What do you mean you said, well, oh, I received a message from you that said you might might not want to bring your kiddo here. And I remember wondering if that was intended for somebody else. It was because I obviously don't have children, Yes.

8:28 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, no, I know, right, because I had texted you there's Nazis at the capitol, yeah, you know, and I had some people like, oh, you shouldn't call people Nazi use no, gude, these are Nazis. These are actually real deal Nazis. If you look up Blood Tribe online. These white nationalists very openly, blatantly utilize the swastika profess, you know, to their their love for Hitler, with their saluting and all of that. And their leader, if I'm not mistaken, has a bolt or the lightning bolt or whatever it is on the tattooed on the side of his face.

9:10 Speaker 3: He's bald. He was actually here in conquered.

9:14 Speaker 2: Not only was he spotted, he was photographed by one of the photographers.

9:19 Speaker 3: And they were Their intention was really.

9:21 Speaker 2: To try and intimidate people and try to so fear, and they failed miserably because immediately what we did was not engaged them. One of our peeps got out their phone and pulled out some choice music and put it up to our bullhorn. And then I actually have my own amplifier with me, so I added mine to the mix to try and bolst of the mix, and we just drowned them out. Literally, we're just drowning them out. So, yeah, they were saying they weren't calling blood, you know, they say really hateful things.

9:55 Speaker 2: These people are true white supremacists to the absolute degree of definition.

10:01 Speaker 1: Right now, I have something to get off my chest about and I kind of woke up this morning with this thought in my head. And and this isn't directed at anybody specific or you know, so, but I I have to say this. So inevitably when you post and and we'll we'll probably play the videos. There's a couple of videos that we'll talk about in a minute that they will play and of course for audio only listeners, you'll you'll, you know, we'll describe what's happening in the video in the videos, but well one of them, one of them is is self explanatory.

10:37 Speaker 1: But uh, but so inevitably, and it's it's so predictable, especially in these times when you start posting this stuff, uh, you know about you know, there's Nazis here, there's video and and you put up videos and everything. There's there's this reflexive reaction among some people who will then attack you for posting something about you know, there's Nazis here and they and immediately they go to, well, you know, they have a first Amendment right to be there and do this. But here's the thing about that.

11:18 Speaker 1: So the people who do that kind of thing, they see something like this and they can't wait to defend the Nazis. They're so excited to just jump in there and say, well, they have a first Amendment right to be there. They never complete the loop. And here's what I mean by that, And this is the thought that I woke up with today. How come the people who do that, because they're right, they're correct to point out, yes, sure, they do have a first Amendment right. You have a first Amendment right to do whatever you want.

11:47 Speaker 1: You have a first Amendment right to go out and talk about how much you hate brown people, or how much you love the N word, or whatever hateful shit you want to put out into the world. You have a right to do that. Absolutely, you have first Amendment right. But why can't they ever say because nobody ever says this part When you post something like that, they never say, yeah, they have a first Amendment right to do that. And by the way, you have a first Amendment right to go on social media and condemn it.

12:20 Speaker 1: But they they never do that. All they do, their automatic reflex is defend the Nazis. But they never complete the loop. They never say they have a right to do that. And by the way, you have a right to condemn them for doing that. And I support, not only do I support their First Amendment right to do that, but I support your First Amendment right to say, hey, I think this is wrong. They always leave that other part out, and why is that? I would just ask the people, the people who are so eager and so goddamn excited to get on social media and defend the Nazis, and then, of course when you call them, when you call them on it, they'll say, oh, I'm not defending what they're doing.

13:04 Speaker 1: I'm just defending their right. Okay, great, you're defending their right. By the way, why don't you defend my right to say these people are bags of shit and I hate them just as much as they hate me. Why don't you defend my right to condemn them? But no, all their anger is directed at you for posting something that Nazis are here. It's it's it's you know, we can say it here. This is an FM radio that is fucked up. And every single person who sees this or hears this, who does that shit where you see something like that and your immediate reflex response is oh, I have to defend their First Amendment right.

13:41 Speaker 1: Fuck you? How about you defend our First Amendment rights to condemn what they're doing. But you'll never do that.

13:46 Speaker 3: Will you.

13:47 Speaker 1: Oh, they never do that. They never do I've not once, I've not once seen one of these Nazi defenders say I will stand up for their First Amendment right to be there. They have a right to be there. Oh and by the way, you are correct also to condemn them, and I defend your right to do that as well. Not once have I ever seen anyone on social media do that. That's my rant.

14:09 Speaker 3: I got you, I got you.

14:11 Speaker 1: I apologize for everything.

14:13 Speaker 3: But this is why, that's why, that's why we did it this way.

14:18 Speaker 2: That's that's why we're doing it this way, and so we can speak freely without Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I have got to do better with camera.

14:28 Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, most people are just going to listen to the audio anyway.

14:33 Speaker 3: True.

14:37 Speaker 2: The thing of it is is I did respect their First Amendment right to free speech.

14:43 Speaker 3: And if you look at my.

14:45 Speaker 2: History, dating all the way back to the days when I was a state up myself, I defended it and I continue to do so. Yes, they have every right to stand there and do their zighaile thing.

14:57 Speaker 3: I draw a line when they.

14:58 Speaker 2: Hold up barriers is off, Colonel, They'll be blood. I think it's crossing the line when you're starting to get into a little bit of violence. But that said, in this instance, they did not do that. In this instance, they lined up in front of our state house. They may or may not have been stepping on our permit, but they said their peace. We didn't engage them, but we had the right to our first Amendment.

15:25 Speaker 3: And we used music, we use speeches.

15:28 Speaker 2: For Martin Luther King, We use things like that to try to drown out their hate. And that is our right to do, and that is our right to do. And when they did their formation and started doing these military removers, which incidentally, there was a really funny moment where they're trying to be these big badasses, not to scare you, and everybody turned to the left in one dude who like totally went to the other direction.

15:55 Speaker 3: Like turned around the opposite way from the rest of them.

16:00 Speaker 3: You little tarps. Can you you get that pot right?

16:02 Speaker 2: And of course they're all masks, right because there's towards and a lot of people were yelling at them, cowards, take off your masks.

16:09 Speaker 1: Yep, this is the way you want to be.

16:11 Speaker 3: Take off your masks, show us who you are, cowards.

16:14 Speaker 2: And they weren't gonna. They weren't doing that, and they actually started to march out. We did not engage, We did not stop them. We did not prohibit them from their free speech right. We had every right to shout them down. I had every right to call them nazi scum, to say that that they're cowards, to call it whatever I damn well fucking felt like saying in that moment. I had every damn right to say short of violence, yep, ye get in good trouble in my tribe, and my tribe is all inclusive. We get in good trouble in my tribe.

16:52 Speaker 2: And that's exactly how we handled that. On the State House grounds, Yeah, where we were all were We're were wrong, and you know what, and everybody kept setting up their stuff. They weren't stopping us. We kept setting up the tents and the tables.

17:07 Speaker 3: I say we. They I mostly sat because I can't.

17:11 Speaker 2: I'm not very useful when it comes setting up tens and things. I have other use useful things about me. But it didn't stop us. It didn't stop people from New Hampshire from getting together and telling these out of staters to go fuck themselves, that we were don't we don't put up that ship here.

17:33 Speaker 1: Miriam is in the chatroom by the way, Actually, well she's not in the she's not in the main chat room, so you probably can't see her. But I open up the Facebook feed. I don't know why some comments show oh wait, I want in the actual chat room, and some show up separately. But but she did say and conquered the swastika flags. That's repulsive, and thank you for the heads up. What's up?

17:55 Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah, she was there, and I she actually came to protest and actually and to sit with me and to see everybody and interact with the community. And she protested right alongside of us. I did warner of when I saw what was going on. I didn't want anybody to walk into it unprepared. But thankfully we didn't have to put up with them for too long. Yeah, they were short lived, but then they proceeded to march down the street.

18:25 Speaker 1: So we we have Let's see if I can pull this up here, because we've got uh okay, let's do this one. This is the one where you first, this is the video that you took. Let's see if I can get this to there.

18:43 Speaker 3: We go there, I've got.

18:49 Speaker 1: All right. So for people listening to the audio, we were drowning them out.

19:03 Speaker 3: Nazi suck.

19:05 Speaker 2: Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck. We started a conclution back suck because I stuck away.

19:17 Speaker 3: Oh it's been a lot of them.

19:20 Speaker 2: Hards.

19:24 Speaker 3: Yeah.

19:24 Speaker 1: So that's the video of them walking through and.

19:29 Speaker 3: Yeah.

19:29 Speaker 2: And here they're trying to chant hate and and that, and like I said, our our method of dealing with them was to try and drown them out right, and we successfully did that. I will say when they were at the steps, they were trying very desperately to be loud, but we were louder.

19:47 Speaker 1: Now there's another. There's another. Whoops, I don't want to play that one again.

19:50 Speaker 3: There's another these guys.

19:53 Speaker 2: Then they proceed out of the New Hampshire State House and they were in a trin like a military walk.

20:00 Speaker 1: I do welcome.

20:03 Speaker 3: To the listeners. I just wanted to give them the view of what happened. So those guys came Mark.

20:08 Speaker 2: So they're marching out of the State House. They go through the arches, they take a right onto Main Street and they proceed to start marching all the way down Main Street, down to where the co op wash. And then there's a second video which was not my video, taking by somebody else on a rooftop and in broad daylight in the middle of Concord, New Hampshire, they attack somebody on the street. There's four of them attacking this one person and one of them goes out of his way.

20:40 Speaker 3: You're going to see it in the video.

20:41 Speaker 2: He's going to go out of his way to get a good five or six wax in with an item, with an object, a weapon whatever he had in his hand across the guy's back. And the guy himself who's being attacked is in a protective pose with his you know, arms up, trying to protect his head and face and kind of tucked in. He's literally trying to protect himself from the four people that are around him.

21:09 Speaker 3: And Matt, I'll let you play the video.

21:11 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this. It's it's twenty three seconds here it is.

21:16 Speaker 3: He's gone back, gone bag. This is not an object that was wrong th camer in his other hand. He's fucking they're fucking scared.

21:33 Speaker 2: My understanding is they did have a U haul in their in their tradition, they had a U haul in the parking lot. Yeah but yeah, so you guys, a lot of you have probably seen them. They've showed up around the country. I am assuming that they probably showed up because they saw our protests planned, because it was advertised we had a permit, wasn't the secret?

21:56 Speaker 3: No fighting?

21:57 Speaker 2: Anybody from the Hamster come on down. These guys, most of them not from New Hampshire. They're not from New Hampshire.

22:02 Speaker 3: A lot of some of them are from Florida.

22:04 Speaker 2: They come from all over the place. The one dude, the founder guy, if I'm not mistaken, is from Maine, Okay, so unfortunately he is a New England dude. But that's the bald guy you see in the videos who isn't wearing the mask.

22:19 Speaker 3: He's the only one really isn't wearing a mask.

22:22 Speaker 2: The rest of them cowards, coward had to toe so you can't figure out what they are or who they are.

22:31 Speaker 2: And they were highly hitling, like they did that shit in.

22:35 Speaker 3: Front of our state house.

22:37 Speaker 2: And we didn't physically attack them, we didn't try and physically stop them.

22:42 Speaker 3: We tried to silence them with our own voices.

22:44 Speaker 2: And that's why we need more people to come out when we do these events and show up in force and bake our voices louder.

22:52 Speaker 1: Right, it's such a waste of life, you know, to even in game age and uh hate because the thing that I always say is, you know you can you can put you know you can hate people. And there's very degrees of hate and ignorance and racism and so forth. But when you take it to a degree where I mean, and it's all bad, all all racism and bigotry and and any kind of prejudice is bad. But when you take it to a degree where you're actually putting time and effort and energy and organization into it, Jenny just disappeared from the stream.

23:28 Speaker 1: But when you when you put time and energy and effort into it, it's you're you're you're wasting your life on this stuff. Because here's the thing. You can hate people all you want. You can wish that we lived in some sort of you know, fantasy land ethno state that you have in your mind or whatever it is. But someday you're going to die. And when you die, all the people that you hate so much, whether they're black or brown, or gay or trans or whomever, is the the uh, the target of your hatred. At the end of it all, when you're dead and gone, they'll still be here.

24:08 Speaker 1: All the people you don't like will still be here. The white Ethno state that you fantasize about will never exist. It can't. So you're just wasting If this is what you're spending your life doing, putting your energy into this, you're just wasting your life because someday you're going to be dead and gone and all the people you hate will still be here and you will have accomplished precisely nothing. So you know it doesn't you know, call me a woke liberal or whatever you want to call me, but I think you're wasting your time.

24:46 Speaker 1: I think you're wasting your life on this stuff. So that's that's my view of it. So I'm not sure what. Oh I think Jenny is rejoining us here? Hello?

25:02 Speaker 1: Really all right?

25:04 Speaker 3: I was trying to check the chat messages. Oh accidentally goofed.

25:09 Speaker 1: Oh, I gotcha. Brian Mackie commented on Facebook. He said, scared to show their faces and only a handful, not much of a movement left, I guess, well, but they do feel emboldened. I mean I can't you know, I say.

25:23 Speaker 3: This a lot there's more of them than you think.

25:25 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh clearly. I never I can't remember anything like this happening when I was a kid, where you know, they feel so emboldened as to just go out and openly do this stuff. And you know, the political climate in the country is, like I said, a lot of people think racism is cool again, and they're all in, you know, and it's it's really you know, in some ways we've come so far, and yet in some ways we also seem to be going backward rapidly.

25:51 Speaker 2: I feel like we're going back a lot lately. I mean, these guys are basically KKK with black hoods instead of white ones. Yes, the diference, they're just another version of that. And we as a society in America had progressed beyond that. I thought that that kind of behavior wasn't acceptable in the streets because there was a time when the KKK marched proudly down the street in DC. There was a time when there was widely accepted and it was okay to be racist, and we supposedly were beating that in America.

26:26 Speaker 3: But now we're going backwards. Now we're seeing it not.

26:30 Speaker 2: Only is it, it's becoming popular, you know, to be a racist. It's so acceptable. You can turn on YouTube and find that any number of videos that people have taken out in public and find somebody saying things that you would never even stay behind a.

26:50 Speaker 1: Closed door, right, you know.

26:53 Speaker 3: And that's what scares me to a point.

26:56 Speaker 2: But I like to believe that there's more of us than there are of them, and the more of us that empower each other and become more active and activated, then we can start to be We can't let this win, right. This just happened in Cocking, New Hampshire. They marched down the street and assaulted somebody on the sidewalk in main Street, USA.

27:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then jumped in their U haul.

27:20 Speaker 3: Yeah.

27:21 Speaker 2: Like I am. I feel like everybody in New Hampshire should be standing up right now and getting together and joining together.

27:30 Speaker 3: And saying not in our state. Right.

27:33 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, like you said earlier, I've been met by some folks who want to attack me for pointing this out right.

27:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very concerned about the First Amendment rights of the Nazis. Couldn't give a shit about your First Amendment right?

27:50 Speaker 3: Or I point out the hate? How did my video the hate?

27:55 Speaker 1: Yeah? We see you the people that the Nazi defenders, we see you. We understand why you leave out the part where you know where you say, By the way, Jenny, I also stand for your first Amendment right now, you leave that part out.

28:10 Speaker 2: We see you only when it agrees with them, then I can have my first Amendment.

28:17 Speaker 3: Right.

28:17 Speaker 2: See, that's why you're not really you're not really the true.

28:21 Speaker 3: Believer that you think you are.

28:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's when you can stand in front of a Nazi like I did, and not go in the wrong direction, but instead use your own liberties to protect the people around you and yourself.

28:37 Speaker 3: So i'd say, join me. Maybe you need to question what side you're on.

28:42 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely all right, Well should we put a button on this one? This is kind of the first time, so yeah, yeah, yes it is. I'm anxious to get this one out into the what's up?

28:57 Speaker 3: Sorry for my technical goofs.

29:00 Speaker 1: That's okay, No, that's all right, but no, I'm anxious to get this one onto the podcast platforms and for people who especially for people who don't know what happened.

29:08 Speaker 2: You're closed by saying thank you to everybody who came out yesterday and joined us all across new Hand. Sure there were multiple locations of protests going on. I was privileged to join those in conquered and I hope to see you at the next one.

29:22 Speaker 1: All right, very good, and of course, uh you can find Matt connorton Unleashed. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash unleashed for all the uh for the get access to the full archive of the show. You can hear the radio edition Saturday mornings from nine am to noon. We broadcast from WMNH ninety five point three FM. The mc u AF version of the show has no direct affiliation with wmn H at all. This is purely separate from that and is strictly online just so there's no confusion or miss version because because confusion and misunderstandings have cost me, have caused me problems in the past, so we don't want any of that.

29:59 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is the adult off air version, not f c C compliant.

30:06 Speaker 1: We save that this has no affiliation with w m n H. This version of the show, but uh so thank you all for joining us. Matt connorton dot com is my website and Jenny your website.

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30:24 Speaker 1: All right, thanks everybody, we'll talk to you a little bit later. Bye bye, bye bye. This is sweetom s e U s e U S you as he you S

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