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Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-13-25 hour 1
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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, Here we go. It is that time again,
Speaker 1: Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live bringing you a
Speaker 1: bunch of new music to start the show today, and
Speaker 1: you might hear that again later in the show. Of course,
Speaker 1: we've got the next few hours with you if you
Speaker 1: are listening live on Saturday morning. Matt Connorton Unleashed from
Speaker 1: the studios of wm n H ninety five point three
Speaker 1: FM and Glorious man Esther in New Hampshire. Today is
Speaker 1: a Saturday, September thirteen, twenty twenty five, and I am
Speaker 1: not alone.
Speaker 23: Jenny, Good morning, Sunshine.
Speaker 1: Jenny is here at the news table four. I am yes, yes,
Speaker 1: covered from my last week to DC yes, thank you,
Speaker 1: and uh, we got a couple of other fine people
Speaker 1: here in studio with us. Get those mics up here. So,
Speaker 1: one of whom has been on the show recently, Caleb Dyer, returns. Hello, Caleb, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome back. It is good to see you.
Speaker 21: Yeah, good to see you as well.
Speaker 1: And you brought with you someone whose music we recently
Speaker 1: did a world radio premiere for. Yes, Santino Demante is here.
Speaker 21: Hello.
Speaker 1: Now that I know, now that I know how to
Speaker 1: say your name correctly, I apologize. I think the day
Speaker 1: we premiered the song, I was saying Demante.
Speaker 21: It works not out, but it's Demanty perfect.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So I'm glad we cleared that up, because
Speaker 1: I do try to get everyone's names correctly. I know
Speaker 1: what it's like to have people struggle with, you know,
Speaker 1: because my last name is very unusual. So in fact,
Speaker 1: in high school, my nickname was Canarton because the first
Speaker 1: day of school, the teachers they would, you know, they'd
Speaker 1: do the roll call and they'd get to my name
Speaker 1: and they'd inevitably they would all say Canarton, And so
Speaker 1: all my friends just started calling me that. But man,
Speaker 1: I got so used to it that even today, if
Speaker 1: someone mispronounces it, it takes me a second to remember
Speaker 1: to correct them right because I'm so used to it.
Speaker 1: But we did the world radio premiere for your debut single, Yes,
Speaker 1: Summer in the Sky, not only your first single as
Speaker 1: a solo artist, correct, but the inaugural release on Hatchet At.
Speaker 23: It's a mouthful hatchet acs and saw. But yes, it
Speaker 23: was our very first release. We're very proud of it.
Speaker 23: There's hopefully much more to come from the company. And yeah, no,
Speaker 23: I mean we poured our heart and soul into it.
Speaker 23: We we finished that tune in thirty days, which was
Speaker 23: an accelerated schedule for sure. Yeah, but we we put
Speaker 23: in just as much time and care and attention as
Speaker 23: we would any other project. And yeah, it came I
Speaker 23: thought it came out excellent. I could hear every element
Speaker 23: that I wanted to in it, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The production is great.
Speaker 21: Thank you.
Speaker 1: How involved are you so you're you're completely Why do
Speaker 1: you do? Do you engineer the track?
Speaker 23: And so for this, for this particular project with Tino,
Speaker 23: it was it was just Santino and myself. I was
Speaker 23: the principal engineer and then after we you know, got
Speaker 23: the tracks, after we recorded everything. We really sat down
Speaker 23: and we got to you know, putting a mix on
Speaker 23: it and getting the levels correct, and then you know,
Speaker 23: through to the mastering process. We did everything in house.
Speaker 23: Originally when the when the company was founded, we originally
Speaker 23: thought that we were going to have to kind of
Speaker 23: outsource some of the mastering, Yeah, just just to make
Speaker 23: things easier on us. But we purchased some software and
Speaker 23: we're imminently gonna be probably purchasing some more hardware that
Speaker 23: will make it even easier for us to do everything
Speaker 23: in house.
Speaker 1: So that's something I didn't realize. So you so you
Speaker 1: mastered this?
Speaker 21: Yes?
Speaker 23: This was uh, I mean well it was actually cooperatively
Speaker 23: I would say, mastered by Santino and myself. He was
Speaker 23: still involved down to the wire, right, right, so when
Speaker 23: we finished the tune. Uh, Santino was the person who
Speaker 23: made the final edits. So well, yes, I did apply
Speaker 23: the the effectuation right, the compression and equalization on the
Speaker 23: main you know, it was tweaked and it was dealt
Speaker 23: with by both of us.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, outstanding, And uh, now what's kind of the plan,
Speaker 1: like do you have more?
Speaker 21: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you just gonna release more singles? Or do you
Speaker 1: have an album or an EP and the works or what.
Speaker 21: I would like to do?
Speaker 18: So right now plan we have an EP for next
Speaker 18: spring probably excellent, excellent, So we're gonna spend some time
Speaker 18: work on that and spend some time this time.
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's going to be a little bit more drawn out,
Speaker 23: and I don't know exactly how many songs that it
Speaker 23: was four or five, five I believe, and in one
Speaker 23: of one of those songs will be recycling of somewhere
Speaker 23: in this Guy, So it's four additional and then somewhere
Speaker 23: in this Guy will be re released with the cool
Speaker 23: EP collection. So yeah, and there might be slight changes
Speaker 23: but I don't think very much will change concerning it.
Speaker 23: You never know, you never know, right, Yeah, we're going
Speaker 23: to obviously, when we release any collection of works, we
Speaker 23: listen back to each of them to make sure not
Speaker 23: only there's cohesivity between you know, each song, but that
Speaker 23: there's you know, continuity, right, that it feels good listening
Speaker 23: to it as if it was an album, right, you know.
Speaker 23: And and now I understand EPs can be diverse and
Speaker 23: you don't have to do that, but there is definitely
Speaker 23: a sort of theme if you will, Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: And something too that you know, you and Jesse when
Speaker 1: when you and Jesse Rutstine were here, you very clear
Speaker 1: that with with the label Hatchet Acts and saw I
Speaker 1: did it, I do. Jenny's heard me trip on it
Speaker 1: a thousand times that that uh, you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: really taking your time. And actually we were talking about
Speaker 1: it a little bit off air too before the show.
Speaker 1: You're really uh committed to making sure that everything's right.
Speaker 1: It's not just because sometimes people start something like a
Speaker 1: label or some other endeavor and they, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they just kind of throw a lot of stuff against
Speaker 1: the wall and see what sticks.
Speaker 23: Very very haphazard. This this company certainly not doing that.
Speaker 23: The first two artists we signed, Santino and then Sarah Bird,
Speaker 23: who's actually one of Santino's colleagues, played with uh with
Speaker 23: Santino yesterday with Dog a Dog excellent and you know
Speaker 23: Sarah's tune. I can't wait to release that to the world.
Speaker 23: It's so musically interesting really and actually so in the
Speaker 23: same way where I principally engineered and you know, mixed
Speaker 23: and assisted with mastering Tino's tune, Jesse is to be
Speaker 23: working with Bird. So this is kind of we divide
Speaker 23: the labor right now kind of in this way, some
Speaker 23: of the mixing and mastering on birds tune might be me.
Speaker 23: I don't know exactly you know what's going to happen
Speaker 23: right now because they haven't finished tracking everything just yet.
Speaker 23: But once all is finalized, then you know, we have
Speaker 23: the discussion of like, okay, how we move forward. And
Speaker 23: in every instance, the artist is the principal creative director
Speaker 23: of course, this is this is how it goes, and
Speaker 23: we have to as producers, we have to effectuate the
Speaker 23: artist's intent. So you know, if I'm brought in to
Speaker 23: do anything, it's going to be with Bird. It's going
Speaker 23: to be with her as kind of directing me, guiding me.
Speaker 23: You know, what she wants in the tune. I've listened
Speaker 23: to the tune plenty, but you know I can't be her,
Speaker 23: I can't be in her mind. So I need to
Speaker 23: and that that's part of doing this I what I
Speaker 23: consider to be the right way, where you know, there
Speaker 23: are many recording companies and stuff where they will tell
Speaker 23: the artists like, oh, you need to write something that's saleable,
Speaker 23: you need to write something that that we you know,
Speaker 23: feel strong and confident in promoting and we frankly just
Speaker 23: don't care. Will you know, if it's original, if it's
Speaker 23: if it if we think it's good, if we think
Speaker 23: that the musicality is there, will produce it, and you know,
Speaker 23: we we'll we'll follow your direction. And I think that
Speaker 23: is something that is sorely lacking and missing in our
Speaker 23: musical culture in general. Yea, you know there to some degree,
Speaker 23: once you have enough money, you can buy creative freedom
Speaker 23: of us. There's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 23: creative direction that that comes in some of these companies.
Speaker 23: We're entirely antithetical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's that's excellent. Well, I think
Speaker 1: we should let's play the track Summer in the Sky
Speaker 1: for anyone who hasn't heard it yet. And of course
Speaker 1: this is out on all the streaming platforms and everything,
Speaker 1: and anything we should know before we play it, anything
Speaker 1: we should know about the song itself. Uh, Santino, do
Speaker 1: you have anything you want to.
Speaker 18: It's a it's a tribute to Brian Wilson. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 18: well I want to do something for him. I'm not
Speaker 18: normally a singer, but I tried it for this one.
Speaker 18: And you know, we'll see how that goes. But I
Speaker 18: just wanted to I want to just make something for
Speaker 18: him because he only passed away in July. And yep,
Speaker 18: that's really it's just a feel good uh tune. I
Speaker 18: don't even notice about It's about summer.
Speaker 1: My favorite time of year. So I I like, of
Speaker 1: course the sky right, very good. So without further ado,
Speaker 1: we'll give this a spin and then we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk with these guys some more. But here it is.
Speaker 1: This is Summer in the Sky, Santino Demanti.
Speaker 5: The sound of the music, Mother, Mother, it s the snore,
Speaker 5: so the snore, So.
Speaker 8: Go away with the dream sons, Roddy, the dreams, the
Speaker 8: Indian perfect. I did dreams that the day abouts did
Speaker 8: the shoe streams the same season stream mollen Stone.
Speaker 6: But that thing.
Speaker 5: So it's sun.
Speaker 23: Stop so in the store, so.
Speaker 5: Stops and stop.
Speaker 1: So scot, Oh, that is so good, Summer in the Sky.
Speaker 21: Thank you.
Speaker 1: The debut release from Santino Demonti, and of course the
Speaker 1: debut release from Hatchet Acts and Saw Records. And we
Speaker 1: have both the Santino and Caleb Dyer from Hatchet Acts
Speaker 1: and Saw See Now that I can say.
Speaker 21: At I know it is. It is a mouthful.
Speaker 1: No, it's a great name though. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it, and uh, you and you and Jesse shared
Speaker 1: how you came up with the name and everything, uh
Speaker 1: when you were on and that was that was really interesting.
Speaker 1: But I'm also so I'm curious about the production of
Speaker 1: the track because you know, it's got that you know,
Speaker 1: it's got an old school vibe, you know, and as
Speaker 1: you said, Santino, it's a tribute to Brian Wilson in effect.
Speaker 1: How hard was it to get because that's that's a
Speaker 1: tricky thing, right, to get that that kind of sound
Speaker 1: and that vibe vibe without screwing it up. Because you
Speaker 1: got it. You want to get that sound in that vibe,
Speaker 1: but you also need to make it sound you know,
Speaker 1: right modern.
Speaker 23: In the wise words of SpongeBob technique. Technique technique. It's
Speaker 23: all about technique. And if you know how these things
Speaker 23: were originally done, you can reverse engineer them. Okay, It's
Speaker 23: it's pretty pretty much that simple. I will say we
Speaker 23: did on some things we used more modern techniques. So
Speaker 23: for example, the drum captures are not recorded in the
Speaker 23: same way that they would have been recorded back in
Speaker 23: that time. But that was done deliberately because we wanted
Speaker 23: to add certain textures and overlay things. So there were
Speaker 23: certain things that were not kind of those old techniques,
Speaker 23: but actually a lot of what we did for the guitars,
Speaker 23: like the signal chains, a lot of what we did,
Speaker 23: you know, on the actual mastering of it, the actually
Speaker 23: the software emulations that we use, because you know, we
Speaker 23: are working digitally for the vast majority of everything, with
Speaker 23: the exception of the actual signal going into the digital path.
Speaker 23: But even on the digital side, the software emulations that
Speaker 23: we were using were very much tools or emulations of
Speaker 23: tools that would be from that era, and some of
Speaker 23: them sounded better than others. So we we you know,
Speaker 23: gravitated towards what to our years felt right, but really
Speaker 23: it was it was technique. That's really just it. If
Speaker 23: you again, if you know how they did it, you
Speaker 23: can reverse engineer it.
Speaker 21: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Is that the most challenging thing you've done as
Speaker 1: far as recording?
Speaker 23: Oh no, not even close. No, really, ok yeah, I
Speaker 23: mean it's of as of late, it's uh, it's you know,
Speaker 23: it's more interesting. But I would say the most challenging
Speaker 23: things to record was some of my own stuff and
Speaker 23: and and I mean none of that's been released, but yeah,
Speaker 23: that's a that's a totally different discussion. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 23: some of that was was extraordinarily difficult to kind of
Speaker 23: get what it should sound like because you know, the
Speaker 23: different techniques available to you, the different sorts of microphones,
Speaker 23: placement of microphones, all different manners of waves of capturing sound,
Speaker 23: and then all of the ways to process sound, and
Speaker 23: you have to get to get the right sound, you
Speaker 23: have to get both of those things correct.
Speaker 1: So Santino, when you did you write the song yourself?
Speaker 1: You Yeah, when you came up with the song, did
Speaker 1: the did what ended up being the song the finished product?
Speaker 1: Did that match what you had in your head?
Speaker 4: Or was it?
Speaker 9: Was it?
Speaker 1: I mean I imagine it was probably even better, right.
Speaker 18: But well so kind of because like I wrote it
Speaker 18: on piano like months ago, probably Okay, in my head,
Speaker 18: I'd like, you know, one by one kind of like
Speaker 18: imagine like what would make sense for it to be there,
Speaker 18: or like what I imagine it to be there?
Speaker 21: Right?
Speaker 18: Yeah, And for so long, like such a long time
Speaker 18: of having to be able to sort of like process
Speaker 18: like what should be there, Like when we started recording it.
Speaker 18: I feel like it just kind of fell in place,
Speaker 18: and there were elements I think that are different, but
Speaker 18: you know, a lot of it was just.
Speaker 21: Very good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 23: It was just what are we feeling? Or actually what
Speaker 23: Tina was feeling. Because I didn't play a single note
Speaker 23: on this. Everything that was done was Tina And which
Speaker 23: is interesting because there there have been people that have
Speaker 23: you know, worked with where you know, I've assisted of
Speaker 23: done things where you know, like hey, play based on
Speaker 23: it or something like that. Yeah, and you know that's cool,
Speaker 23: but I try as much as possible, I want the
Speaker 23: artist's intent to be effectuated by whatever we're doing.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I also think it depends on who comes in with
Speaker 18: a specific mindset, like would you like the producer to
Speaker 18: take more charge or maybe have someone else add some
Speaker 18: more ideas. And I guess since I had so much
Speaker 18: time to do nothing else to think of it, it
Speaker 18: was so specific, and I thought that just doing it
Speaker 18: myself would give it that specific tention.
Speaker 23: He came in with a super clear creative direction and
Speaker 23: that made what I was doing easy. I mean, truly,
Speaker 23: it was just it was about, Okay, now all I
Speaker 23: have to do is on the recording side of it.
Speaker 23: Suggests techniques that will effectuate that intent. He told me.
Speaker 23: He told me coming in. Basically, it's a tribute to
Speaker 23: Brian Wilson, his life and his memory and how it
Speaker 23: affected him musically.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, and I will say that to cut you off,
Speaker 18: but I just think that the help that you gave
Speaker 18: me a singing primarily. I think Caleb is a very
Speaker 18: good coach in vocals. I've learned a lot singing from him,
Speaker 18: whereas I may have had some things a little more
Speaker 18: like you know, experience just doing certain things. But like
Speaker 18: I think singing has been a big thing that Caleb
Speaker 18: could help anyone with.
Speaker 23: You know, I certainly try. My only musical training is
Speaker 23: on voice in the hear. I never was trained on
Speaker 23: any of the other instruments or very briefly piano lessons.
Speaker 23: But I stopped that when I realized that I knew
Speaker 23: more musically than the teacher did, wow, which that is strangely,
Speaker 23: and I tried to find I tried to find another teacher,
Speaker 23: and I just was kind of disappointed once that I
Speaker 23: was seeking out. But with regards to voice and ear,
Speaker 23: I mean as my first things that I did was
Speaker 23: doing vocal arrangements in high school. And you know, while
Speaker 23: I don't really sing very much now, I sing on
Speaker 23: my own unreleased things, but I don't sing much anymore
Speaker 23: in any of the groups I'm in, except for maybe
Speaker 23: some backups. But yeah, I encourage if vocalists are coming
Speaker 23: in and doing work with us. I can certainly, and
Speaker 23: I'm not gonna be pushy, but some things are universal
Speaker 23: in a recorded context, like you need to enunciate, you know,
Speaker 23: clear things unless you want to slur your lyrics. But
Speaker 23: you know, I yeah, anyhow, I love working with certainly
Speaker 23: Santino and anyone else who's coming in to do work
Speaker 23: with us, and you know, guide them through the process
Speaker 23: of here's how we get the sound right, because you're
Speaker 23: creating the sound, but to get it to sound like
Speaker 23: you want on our record, it requires a whole separate
Speaker 23: set of science and and that's the part that I
Speaker 23: think a lot of gigging musicians kind of miss.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well said I'm curious sus Santino about uh,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about your affinity for
Speaker 1: Brian Wilson and.
Speaker 21: Is he is he likely?
Speaker 23: Is he?
Speaker 20: Is he?
Speaker 1: Is he your biggest influence or is he?
Speaker 21: Yeah?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I love Jimmy Page. Definitely Jimmy Hendrix. Oh yeah,
Speaker 18: but I mean, uh, fellow left handed guy. I appreciate
Speaker 18: Hendricks very much, that's right. But in my last couple
Speaker 18: of years, I think I've really, I've really been taken
Speaker 18: aback almost by Brian Wilson. Uh, and just his capability
Speaker 18: as a as a just all around musician, I guess,
Speaker 18: and arrange your composer things like that. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 18: like I never heard anything, you know, like like it
Speaker 18: before a lot of people know the Beach Boys for
Speaker 18: kind of the surf rock thing, but uh, there's really
Speaker 18: really complex arrangements.
Speaker 21: That he's done. Like if you listen pet sounds sound speaking.
Speaker 23: Of vocal arrangements, Speaking of vocal arrangements, I mean, I've
Speaker 23: said this for some time and I can't take credit.
Speaker 23: I don't know who can take credit for saying this first.
Speaker 23: But the Beach Boys weren't so much a surf rock
Speaker 23: group as they were like a barber shop quartet, exactly
Speaker 23: rock band behind him and and it you know, that
Speaker 23: stuff is magical. I mean, very few people are trying
Speaker 23: to do anything like that anymore. And when Fantino came
Speaker 23: with this project and he's like, I want to do
Speaker 23: some crazy vocal stacks as of someone who you know,
Speaker 23: comes from a vocal arranging background. And I didn't even
Speaker 23: have to arrange it, right, Yeah, I didn't even have
Speaker 23: to do any of this. He just comes in there
Speaker 23: and he hears all the notes in the harmonic series
Speaker 23: that he wants to hit, and he's just like, all right,
Speaker 23: there it is.
Speaker 18: Yeah, man, it's just it's a fun time. It's just
Speaker 18: it's fun more than anything, you know, to put something
Speaker 18: out there, you know, it means a lot. So I'm
Speaker 18: appreciative for sure.
Speaker 1: Had you ever done anything like this before, because obviously,
Speaker 1: you know you've done other projects and well and minute
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the other the band that you guys
Speaker 1: have together, But had you ever done anything like that
Speaker 1: before that? That really kind of serves as such a
Speaker 1: fantastic tribute to Bran Wilson.
Speaker 21: Thank you.
Speaker 18: I've written tunes, you know, for this purpose. Well, I
Speaker 18: guess in that regard, But this is the first time
Speaker 18: that I've recorded it with a good friend of mine
Speaker 18: in a good studio. You know, I think I've recorded
Speaker 18: a billion demos and stuff, you know, anything like that, even.
Speaker 23: Demos with mego we we have some songs together. One
Speaker 23: of them I think is going to get resurrected as
Speaker 23: a song for Crank and Wagon pretty soon when tune
Speaker 23: called the Fugitive, which I think is gonna eventually appear
Speaker 23: on a concept album that Paul Fry is dreaming up
Speaker 23: in his head. It's a collective effort, but it's definitely
Speaker 23: mostly his creative vision in terms of the story, and
Speaker 23: we're just following that intent because we think it's a
Speaker 23: good idea. Yeah, we actually just did a show yesterday
Speaker 23: at Wormtown out in Greenfield, mass We played the set
Speaker 23: and it was space themed and the theme of the
Speaker 23: just to this was as Crank and Wagon. Yes, this
Speaker 23: Cranking Wagon where I play orgon for the listeners out there.
Speaker 23: I play organ and occasionally some electric piano and stuff,
Speaker 23: and mister Santino Demante plays percussion and drums, and Paul
Speaker 23: Fries the guitar, and we had Nick Vortruba from Bass Sabbath,
Speaker 23: which I'm wearing their shirts for all the all the
Speaker 23: people watching out there wearing Bass Sabbath. He's in a
Speaker 23: very nice tribute band, but he played bass with us
Speaker 23: yesterday and it was fantastic. Oh wow, I you know,
Speaker 23: I hope, uh, I hope he does more with us.
Speaker 23: But even if even if not, even if it was
Speaker 23: just a one off, it was still an excellent gig,
Speaker 23: a great gig.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious to know more about because I haven't
Speaker 1: actually heard crankin Wagon, so I'm curious to just to
Speaker 1: know more about it, like what's.
Speaker 23: Like, what is it?
Speaker 18: It's a good fusion of like rock and some progressive
Speaker 18: elements too. Oh yeah, yeah, so it makes is I
Speaker 18: think it blends like maybe simpler rock and roll with
Speaker 18: like a good interesting, sort of different flair. And you're
Speaker 18: really a big part of the music in that, So
Speaker 18: I think you could even attest to more of that,
Speaker 18: you know, I think, you know, in my.
Speaker 23: View, and you know, Paul has his own influences that
Speaker 23: he brings to the table, but in my view, the
Speaker 23: influences that I'm bringing are sort of that seventies progressive rock, Emerson,
Speaker 23: Lake and Palmer. Of course, I'm a massive Keith Emerson fan.
Speaker 23: Yesterday we covered a deep purple tune. We covered Space
Speaker 23: Truck in Nice, which was heavy, man, absolutely heavy, And
Speaker 23: you know, I'm a massive John Lord fan. Yesterday at
Speaker 23: the gig, I wore a Boston shirt. Tom Schultz is
Speaker 23: another musical hero of mine on the organ, and I mean,
Speaker 23: if you listen to that music, you know, if you
Speaker 23: listen to all of that in the way that the
Speaker 23: organ drives it in his central to the rock and
Speaker 23: roll and the classical elements. Even yesterday we opened up
Speaker 23: the show with Son Andolfgang, but Tay God stalls. We
Speaker 23: opened up a rock show with a classical piece, right,
Speaker 23: and you know, like you you don't hear that in
Speaker 23: like I've I've literally in the last decade, I've not
Speaker 23: heard another band doing something musically ambitious like that. And
Speaker 23: then the way that we plan transitions between songs and
Speaker 23: everything else we do is original. We usually throw in
Speaker 23: one cover for the people, but everything else we do
Speaker 23: is original. And I mean we play with the time signatures.
Speaker 23: We you know, even do some tempo play as well,
Speaker 23: where we kind of will drag things and be a
Speaker 23: little bit timmy whimy, But it's all deliberate. It's not
Speaker 23: it's not like it was not meant to be there.
Speaker 23: It's very very meticulously placed and and that I think
Speaker 23: is what separates that musical group from a lot of
Speaker 23: other ones that you'll hear it's it's just very it's
Speaker 23: very deliberate, very composed.
Speaker 1: Now, how long has Crank and Wagon been around? How
Speaker 1: long have you been?
Speaker 23: Only about a year? I mean a little over a year.
Speaker 23: But it's had various forms, and I'd actually like to
Speaker 23: show appreciation to some of the past members because I
Speaker 23: mean they, you know, they did excellent things with it
Speaker 23: and it's just continued on. But the original drummer was
Speaker 23: Cam Clark and he's a fantastic drummer. He's continuing to
Speaker 23: do other things now, not exactly sure what he's up to,
Speaker 23: but Cam Clark was with us, and then for a
Speaker 23: period of time earlier this year, we had Chris Drew
Speaker 23: play play a number gigs. He's the bass player in
Speaker 23: Dog a Dog, which of course it's a natural, natural
Speaker 23: flow over for him to be playing with us. Then
Speaker 23: we did a three piece gig where it was just
Speaker 23: me left handing the bass. Really yeah, yeah, And I
Speaker 23: mean that's the cool dynamic thing about the Wagon is
Speaker 23: that you know, we can play a gig is a
Speaker 23: three piece with no bass player, or we can add
Speaker 23: a bass player and have all of this texture and
Speaker 23: you know it, we can do whatever we want to
Speaker 23: do musically really yeah, and and and that sort of
Speaker 23: creative liberty is I think it's it's getting much more rare.
Speaker 23: I think a lot of musicians put themselves into a box.
Speaker 23: They don't need to. I think they they think that
Speaker 23: all these odd time signatures, these different you know, ways
Speaker 23: to feel music and to convey emotion with music. I
Speaker 23: think they feel almost like, oh, it's too wacky, it's
Speaker 23: too scary, and and like different, and like what if
Speaker 23: we don't execute it right? And you know what if
Speaker 23: it doesn't And you know, all of these things exist
Speaker 23: within musicians heads. They just need to bite in overpower. Yeah,
Speaker 23: And you know Crank and Wagon is that it is fearless,
Speaker 23: absolutely fearless. You know, we'll we'll have like a nice
Speaker 23: rock and groovy section one time, and then all of
Speaker 23: a sudden we'll break into five, or we'll break into
Speaker 23: seven eight, or you know, or Will will insert a
Speaker 23: random measure of nine to eight just because we can
Speaker 23: in already an odd time sequence. And and Tino does
Speaker 23: exactly what I'm referencing, because he was the one. But
Speaker 23: you know, we we just we play with every element
Speaker 23: of the music that we can make it interesting. And
Speaker 23: something that the listener just doesn't expect, And and that's
Speaker 23: what I value in musical compositions, and I know Santino
Speaker 23: does as well.
Speaker 18: Absolutely, Yeah, And then what's the plan as far as recording?
Speaker 18: Oh so well, hopefully pretty soon. You might know more
Speaker 18: than I do actually at this point kind of.
Speaker 23: Sort of, I mean, but we've we've spoken about it
Speaker 23: down there, so we have our nice little whiteboard with
Speaker 23: our our plans, our evil plants.
Speaker 20: Yes.
Speaker 23: But anyhow, so coming soon is going to be an EP.
Speaker 23: I believe it's going to be six songs. It's gonna
Speaker 23: contain our self titled track, Crank and Wagon, and it
Speaker 23: will have, you know, a few other morsels of things
Speaker 23: that people who have seen us live have have already
Speaker 23: kind of gotten to know. But it's that's going to
Speaker 23: be mostly things that we wrote in the very beginning, okay,
Speaker 23: and some one thing I think that was written a
Speaker 23: little bit later, But most of it is original sort
Speaker 23: of Crank and Wagon, the founding, the genesis of the band,
Speaker 23: Paul Frye mostly his direction and writing in those songs.
Speaker 23: And then once we complete that, once we put that out,
Speaker 23: then we'll set work on the concept album that was
Speaker 23: aforementioned that is mostly driven by Paul's creative direction in
Speaker 23: terms of the story, but musically, I would say this
Speaker 23: is where Santino and I sort of start to get
Speaker 23: more aggressive in terms of how we color the ideas
Speaker 23: of mister Frya. And in some of the writing is
Speaker 23: is Zappa esque, some of it is Emerson, you know,
Speaker 23: Keith Emerson and Emerson Lake and Palmer esque, and then
Speaker 23: some of it is more in the vein of Paul
Speaker 23: Frye and the you know, secure eighties kind of poland
Speaker 23: vibe that he is going for. And the name Crank
Speaker 23: and Wagon kind of comes for an affinity from this
Speaker 23: post World War two sort of Cold War music from
Speaker 23: the Eastern Bloc and even actually parts of Western Europe
Speaker 23: as well, where it was unique, like not droning music,
Speaker 23: but music that was born of the despair of living
Speaker 23: in a place that was impoverished, oppressed, where you know,
Speaker 23: people didn't have creative freedom. Really if you had it,
Speaker 23: it was underground and it was not easy to share.
Speaker 23: And that I think inspires all of us, all three
Speaker 23: of us in the band, to varying degrees, but the
Speaker 23: idea that we use this band as a vehicle for
Speaker 23: exactly what we want to put out into the world
Speaker 23: and that no one's going to tell us how we
Speaker 23: should do it. And if you like it, you like.
Speaker 23: If you don't, you don't. But it is definitely it's
Speaker 23: not your stereotypical standards straight up rock and roll. It's
Speaker 23: very out there, right.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How often does Crank and Wagen play?
Speaker 21: Do you? Guys play a lot?
Speaker 23: Fairly and frequently really, And that's deliberate. We're trying to
Speaker 23: what we do when we play live. We're trying to
Speaker 23: theme our sets. So the last several shows we've had
Speaker 23: have had different themes that we've stuck to. So when
Speaker 23: we the last show we did prior to this, it
Speaker 23: was Jurassic Park themed, Oh Wow, and we did the motif.
Speaker 23: We played the John Williams motif in three different keys
Speaker 23: throughout the throughout the sets so that we would transition
Speaker 23: seamlessly into other songs. But we we did that John
Speaker 23: Williams motif and that again, like rock bands that will
Speaker 23: just put John Williams into their sets like that, it
Speaker 23: just you don't hear about that. It doesn't happen, and
Speaker 23: we just do it because we can because musically we
Speaker 23: all have the ability, and we think it serves the songs,
Speaker 23: it serves the set and delivers a creative and interesting
Speaker 23: product to the people who are there in the audience.
Speaker 23: And we don't want to we don't want to be
Speaker 23: delivering just sets where it's like stopping in between every
Speaker 23: song and you know, we're like leaving dead air. We
Speaker 23: want to be really making people surprise. It's like, oh,
Speaker 23: they went into that song immediately, like what, how do
Speaker 23: they even do that? And we want to create that
Speaker 23: magic and to do that we need more time in
Speaker 23: between shows. We need to be able to construct the
Speaker 23: sets really meticulously, get them where we want them to be.
Speaker 23: And it's the same as recording. It's like, you know,
Speaker 23: Santino's well aware of this led Zeppelin as a band,
Speaker 23: and I would argue a lot of it is is
Speaker 23: much more musically simple, especially the earliest stuff, but there
Speaker 23: was a lot of the stuff from led Zeppelin that
Speaker 23: they took a long time in between to really get
Speaker 23: what they wanted for a musical idea right and feeling
Speaker 23: the way that they want to convey that emotion, and
Speaker 23: that is so important when you're doing something that is
Speaker 23: musically intricate.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now that's that's really interesting to the concept of,
Speaker 1: you know, making every show, you know, have a theme
Speaker 1: and have it be different because that I don't I
Speaker 1: can't think of anyone who really does that.
Speaker 21: Yeah, there's the top of my head.
Speaker 1: I can't think of any Yeah, there are some.
Speaker 23: Some bands that do themed shows and things like that,
Speaker 23: and you know, bands that will dress up and costume
Speaker 23: to do it. Sure where maybe the show itself, the
Speaker 23: music itself is not themed, but but just the idea.
Speaker 23: I forget when it was when we kind of started
Speaker 23: doing that, but it was earlier this year, for sure.
Speaker 23: It was at the beginning of this year, and I
Speaker 23: think Paul just are just like, hey, let's do this
Speaker 23: theme for Strange Creek, and we just dressed up that way.
Speaker 23: We didn't really do much musically. Yeah, I guess we
Speaker 23: put take Me Out to the Ballgame as an intro
Speaker 23: for our first song called America's Pastime, which which is
Speaker 23: a little bit of a play on words. But anyhow,
Speaker 23: So we do things like that where we you know,
Speaker 23: we inject interesting ideas and we try to make the
Speaker 23: listener and the person who's in the audience think a
Speaker 23: little bit more about the music because We've thought a
Speaker 23: lot about the music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's fantastic. When is the next Cranking Wagon show?
Speaker 1: Do you have something coming around?
Speaker 23: So the Wagon? The Wagon is coming to I think
Speaker 23: we're playing October tenth and eleventh. I think tenth is
Speaker 23: in Rhode Island. I forget the exact venue. Sorry, sorry
Speaker 23: to the listeners. October eleventh, though, is at Ralphs Rock
Speaker 23: and Diner and Worcester and I believe we're going to
Speaker 23: be playing with Bass Sabbath. That show is actually not
Speaker 23: going to be super themed. However, we are going to
Speaker 23: be doing some of the music of Pink Floyd We
Speaker 23: One of the covers we used to do, which we've
Speaker 23: kind of left out of recent sets was Sid Barrett
Speaker 23: Eric Floyd we did. I was the name of that?
Speaker 9: In the.
Speaker 21: It went, uh, I forget the name. The name, Oh
Speaker 21: my god, something a cat.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 23: The lyric, yeah, it's in F sharp. I know all
Speaker 23: the notes, something about like a devil. No, I forget
Speaker 23: what the name of it is.
Speaker 21: Not thinking, I can't believe.
Speaker 23: I can't even quote the song, and I can play
Speaker 23: Lucifer Yes, Yes, Lucifer Sam Yes, early Sid Barrett aera
Speaker 23: Floyd So we're probably gonna reincorporate that along with some
Speaker 23: other Pink Floyd classics that you know well. But so
Speaker 23: that that show is a little bit of a one
Speaker 23: off where we're doing more covers than we would normally do,
Speaker 23: but we will still play originals and uh, you know
Speaker 23: that the focus is always on the original.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so excellent. And what about playing Summer in the
Speaker 1: Sky out like, did you if you had a chance
Speaker 1: to play that out live? Or what what's their plans
Speaker 1: to or I haven't thought about that.
Speaker 18: Yeah, so I mean I would like to assemble the
Speaker 18: band of some time next year and maybe do some
Speaker 18: some stuff like that, But for now, I'm just really
Speaker 18: enjoying the recording of it and make sure it's a
Speaker 18: good polished thing. And yeah, you know, in time, I
Speaker 18: think it's totally possible, you know.
Speaker 23: Yeah, there's a lot of elements on that and to
Speaker 23: do to do it live, to do it live without
Speaker 23: horns or strings would be would be very.
Speaker 18: Difficult thing as possible, but definitely uh something to plan out,
Speaker 18: and you know.
Speaker 1: It'd be hard to you know, I mean, if if pressed,
Speaker 1: you could pull out an acoustic guitar.
Speaker 23: Exactly to do the harmony vocal stacks on it and
Speaker 23: to really to really get the feel of.
Speaker 18: Yeah, getting a band together to do it somewhat justice
Speaker 18: is totally possible even without things like you know, vocal
Speaker 18: stacks or or strings, oorns or whatever. But yeah, it's
Speaker 18: just it's finding the groove of it and finding everyone's
Speaker 18: place in it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 21: So yeah, totally is something that could happen for sure.
Speaker 23: Yeah yeah, I mean we certainly know people who are
Speaker 23: musically good enough to make that happen about that doubt
Speaker 23: so absolutely Yeah.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, A time goes quickly, guys, and I do
Speaker 1: want to play I think we're going to play that
Speaker 1: song once more once more to end the segment.
Speaker 21: O great, great, thank you.
Speaker 1: What is there anything? Guy's got a lot going on.
Speaker 1: I do want to make sure though, is there anything
Speaker 1: coming up that you want to mention that we didn't.
Speaker 23: Talk about or well, I will say, if you're local
Speaker 23: to New Hampshire and you want to come see me tomorrow,
Speaker 23: I'm going to be in Milford, New Hampshire doing a
Speaker 23: blues jam something totally different. Wow, we open open everyone.
Speaker 23: I do that with Craig Thomas the second Sunday of
Speaker 23: every month out at Riley's Place in Milford, Okay, and
Speaker 23: it's a fantastic jam. You can pretty much come and
Speaker 23: play anything, though it is more blues focused, and I
Speaker 23: would love to see people there and play with you
Speaker 23: because I love meeting all kinds of local musicians, especially
Speaker 23: people were passionate about crazy and wild music. But yeah,
Speaker 23: come on out have some fun.
Speaker 21: That that's me. I know.
Speaker 23: Tino's got his own schedules.
Speaker 18: So yeah, after yesterday the show we played, we were
Speaker 18: talking about earlier, we're finally getting a nice break. So
Speaker 18: as of now I can't think of anything. So I
Speaker 18: get to maybe sleep a little bit or record some more.
Speaker 18: So yeah, but maybe I'll check out that blues jam
Speaker 18: that Caleb's doing too.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny as on a side about Milford,
Speaker 1: So Milford for for for people listening online from other
Speaker 1: parts of the country, Milford, New Hampshire, it's just this town.
Speaker 1: It's not like a big metropolitan area, right, It's just
Speaker 1: a small town in New Hampshire. But for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: like Milford comes up on the show all the time
Speaker 1: and it sounds like like there's just a lot going
Speaker 1: on There's it's so weird.
Speaker 23: It's like, there's so many there's so many places in town,
Speaker 23: in that town that have live music. And it's because
Speaker 23: the people in and around that little kind of part
Speaker 23: of that valley, sow he Can Valley just they love
Speaker 23: local music and they love all kinds of different stuff.
Speaker 23: But I will say they do it for proclivity to blues,
Speaker 23: no question. Yeah, the age and the demographic there's a
Speaker 23: lot for blues musicians there, but yeah, for just about everything.
Speaker 23: They have so much diverse wild Yeah, it's great. It's
Speaker 23: awesome to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, Yeah, it is. Yeah, you don't expect it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Milford comes up all the time on the show, Caleb.
Speaker 1: Where is the best place for people go online to
Speaker 1: keep up with everything that Hatchet Acts and Saw Records
Speaker 1: is doing?
Speaker 23: Hatchet Action Saws on Facebook. We do not yet have
Speaker 23: a website, but you can find us on Facebook Hatchet
Speaker 23: Actions and Saw Records, And I believe we're getting some
Speaker 23: other social set up where you know, we're a little
Speaker 23: bit slacking on the socials, but we are. We're not
Speaker 23: slacking on the music.
Speaker 1: Oh that's for sure.
Speaker 21: That's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And Santino, where should people go? Well, the
Speaker 1: single of course, is on all the platforms right, all
Speaker 1: the streaming platforms, somewhere in the sky. Where else should
Speaker 1: people go to keep up with everything that you're doing?
Speaker 21: I have I have a Facebook page, Instagram page. Is
Speaker 21: my name?
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, there's the basic things for sure. You want
Speaker 18: to spell your last name for people who don't, Yes,
Speaker 18: D E, capital M O N T E. Very good
Speaker 18: and now I know how to say it tracktly. Guys,
Speaker 18: this has been wonderful. Thank you both so much. Thank
Speaker 18: you great.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we'll definitely do this again in the future, and
Speaker 1: I think too, we're gonna We're gonna see Caleb on
Speaker 1: the podcast version of the show at some point in
Speaker 1: your future too. But we will end this segment with this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play this again, Summer in the Sky, the
Speaker 1: debut single from Santino di Monty as a solo artist
Speaker 1: on Hatchet Acts and Saw Records. So this is really good.
Speaker 1: If you missed it earlier, we're gonna play this again,
Speaker 1: and if you are listening live on Saturday. Coming up
Speaker 1: next hour, we have Keith sam Land and his project
Speaker 1: Alien Stone. He's going to be joining us via Microsoft Teams,
Speaker 1: so really looking forward to talking with him. He's got
Speaker 1: a really interesting sound. Uh so uh, there is plenty
Speaker 1: more to come, but right now here it is summer
Speaker 1: in the sky. This is Santino Demantis.
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Speaker 8: the un stain, and the sound so rogan.
Speaker 5: It colors the world. But the sound of the music play.
Speaker 8: And up gown and borrow they running up. That's a
Speaker 8: long sound scorn, and it's another. It is sun in
Speaker 8: the sky.
Speaker 5: Scor so.
Speaker 8: Go away with the dream.
Speaker 19: The sons of Rod, the dress, the deific prefet to
Speaker 19: dreams that the dams, the huge streams.
Speaker 5: The same season stream woman stone face.
Speaker 12: But that.
Speaker 6: So s.
Speaker 5: The sun in the snore song in the store, So.
Speaker 8: Snot so.
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