Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-20-25 hour 2

0:00 Speaker 1: W mnh rips the nobles.

0:04 Speaker 2: When Mattso wakes up in the morning, he gets into

0:07 Speaker 2: the shower and to the top of his lungs, he sings,

0:16 Speaker 2: I want because I can't. All right, I'm back to

0:20 Speaker 2: the radio show now on the best Cherry.

0:25 Speaker 1: Won't you take me.

0:28 Speaker 3: To the ocean's side. I'll catch a boat and our

0:34 Speaker 3: sail across the sea. Tell them Mada not to come.

0:42 Speaker 1: And then, won't you take me.

0:50 Speaker 4: Out to the desert hut so I can see what

0:57 Speaker 4: I'm really made. Tell them man not come in.

1:05 Speaker 1: Man, you see it takes time to make time in

1:16 Speaker 1: this Praise Praises city.

1:23 Speaker 5: I'm going where they say all the living.

1:32 Speaker 6: Won't you take me up to the bass land so

1:40 Speaker 6: I can see for miles around?

1:46 Speaker 1: Tell them man not come man mack. Won't you take me.

1:58 Speaker 4: Up to the mountains high where the trees they rise

2:06 Speaker 4: to the sky.

2:09 Speaker 1: Till them man dot cone And because it takes.

2:19 Speaker 7: Time, the mad time where the rays raises city, I'm.

2:31 Speaker 1: Going where the city all the live.

2:36 Speaker 5: Bands easy, yes they do.

2:41 Speaker 8: Now, won't you take me.

3:54 Speaker 1: Up to heaven.

3:59 Speaker 8: So can see.

4:01 Speaker 1: Everyone that I've ever loved. Tell them mattera not come back.

4:14 Speaker 1: Won't you take me to the darkas night.

4:21 Speaker 6: Where nobody else says ever been, tell them matter not

4:30 Speaker 6: come in.

4:37 Speaker 1: Because it six.

4:38 Speaker 9: Time the mad time in this crazy, crazy city.

4:49 Speaker 5: I'm going with the s all the liver easiy where time.

5:05 Speaker 1: Crazy crazy scene all the man.

5:25 Speaker 10: What a great track that is Matt Axton and the

5:28 Speaker 10: song is crazy City And we're going to be speaking

5:30 Speaker 10: with him in just a moment. Welcome everybody. We have

5:33 Speaker 10: entered our number two numrow doos of Matt Connorton unleashed

5:36 Speaker 10: on this Saturday morning, September twentieth, from the studios of

5:40 Speaker 10: w m n H ninety five point three FM and

5:43 Speaker 10: Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And Matt Axton is going to

5:46 Speaker 10: becoming a Manchester on September twenty fourth at the Rex Theater.

5:50 Speaker 10: But uh, let's see if we have him on the line. Matt,

5:52 Speaker 10: are you there?

5:54 Speaker 11: Yes, sir? Right here?

5:55 Speaker 10: Hey, welcome, So you are you are calling from the road? Correct,

5:59 Speaker 10: You're out on tour right now? Where Where are you

6:01 Speaker 10: calling us from?

6:03 Speaker 11: We're out in Great Barrington, Massachusetts. We played at the

6:06 Speaker 11: Guthrie Center last night out here, the Rlogutree Center.

6:09 Speaker 10: Oh, very nice, very nice. Yeah, you're touring. Let's see,

6:13 Speaker 10: so you started this month and then you're touring into

6:16 Speaker 10: October as well. Correct, you're out for uh, you're out

6:18 Speaker 10: on the road for a couple of months.

6:21 Speaker 11: Absolutely.

6:21 Speaker 6: Yeah.

6:21 Speaker 11: This is the longest tour to date from US. We

6:23 Speaker 11: came all away from Los Angeles, California, started out in Oklahoma,

6:27 Speaker 11: I went down south and I've just been hitting our

6:29 Speaker 11: first ever you know, Eastern Seaboard, Northeast run of our

6:34 Speaker 11: of our existence, and we're very excited.

6:37 Speaker 10: Oh very cool. Well, welcome to New England and I

6:40 Speaker 10: know you're gonna be You're gonna be right here in

6:41 Speaker 10: Manchester on the twenty fourth. I want to so, I

6:46 Speaker 10: want to start here because I so I played that

6:48 Speaker 10: song Crazy City. You sent you sent us a bunch

6:51 Speaker 10: of tracks to choose from. I opened with that one

6:54 Speaker 10: because selfishly, that is my favorite, and I want to

6:57 Speaker 10: tell you what I love about it, you know, because

7:00 Speaker 10: you sort of you sort of blend genres a little bit,

7:03 Speaker 10: you know you, I know it kind of falls under

7:06 Speaker 10: the Americana genre, a category of what you do but

7:10 Speaker 10: but that, but that tends to be a mix of things.

7:13 Speaker 10: Americana is kind of a broad term. It tends to

7:15 Speaker 10: be a mix of things. What I love about Crazy

7:17 Speaker 10: City is, you know, it's got that Americana, that folk

7:19 Speaker 10: sort of touch of country vibe, not not too countries.

7:23 Speaker 10: It's not overly twangy, but it's you know, just it's

7:26 Speaker 10: such a great song. But then you get to that

7:27 Speaker 10: point in the song too, where it kind of gets

7:29 Speaker 10: a little bit funky and a little bit of soul

7:33 Speaker 10: to it, and I really like the way you slip

7:35 Speaker 10: that into the song. It kind of changes a little bit,

7:38 Speaker 10: but it also fits in so seamlessly. But I noticed

7:42 Speaker 10: it the first time I listened to it, when it

7:43 Speaker 10: gets to that part and you know, the part of

7:45 Speaker 10: the song. I mean, obviously, I'm like, oh, I really

7:47 Speaker 10: like that. So I think that is such a great tune.

7:50 Speaker 10: That is my personal favorite of the ones that I

7:53 Speaker 10: listen to. And but you do you kind of you

7:56 Speaker 10: kind of blend genres a little bit, and I really

7:58 Speaker 10: like that, and I love that song. I wanted to

8:00 Speaker 10: tell you that right up front. I think that's such

8:02 Speaker 10: a great track.

8:04 Speaker 11: Oh well, thank you for mentioning that and listening. I'm

8:07 Speaker 11: glad that one struck you like that, because yeah, absolutely,

8:10 Speaker 11: you mentioned sort of Americana as a catch all term

8:12 Speaker 11: in the industry, and you know, some people think of

8:16 Speaker 11: that maybe, you know, sometimes it can be too broad

8:19 Speaker 11: of a genre, but I think that is its strength

8:21 Speaker 11: to me, is that you can mix, like you said,

8:23 Speaker 11: a little bit of country, a little a little folk,

8:26 Speaker 11: a little rock and roll. Sometimes you can get a

8:28 Speaker 11: little bluegrass, a little soul in there. And I come from,

8:31 Speaker 11: you know, a legacy. My dad, Hoyd Axton, really never

8:35 Speaker 11: fit in one genre. He hopped all over. He just

8:37 Speaker 11: believed in writing a good song, no matter what kind

8:39 Speaker 11: it was. And I fell under that as well. I

8:42 Speaker 11: couldn't help but escape, you know, but embrace that mentality

8:46 Speaker 11: around songwriting. So in a show, we're gonna sort of

8:49 Speaker 11: take you on Americana journey, is what I say. At

8:51 Speaker 11: the beginning of the show. We're going to mix it

8:53 Speaker 11: up a little bit and tell some good legacy stories

8:55 Speaker 11: and in the end, I just want you to tap

8:57 Speaker 11: your foot, get your mind moving a little bit, and

9:00 Speaker 11: give you a little escape if we can.

9:02 Speaker 10: So I'm curious to ask you about this, is is

9:04 Speaker 10: there a certain I've heard musicians who who have you know,

9:10 Speaker 10: famous families, or that they have a famous mom or

9:12 Speaker 10: a famous dad. Or talk about how there can be

9:16 Speaker 10: a certain weight to that. There's a certain pressure that

9:18 Speaker 10: comes with that, And I'm curious if that's how it

9:21 Speaker 10: is for you. Obviously you're very proud of your legacy.

9:25 Speaker 10: You embrace it, but you don't. But but you don't

9:29 Speaker 10: You embrace it, but you don't you know, kind of

9:33 Speaker 10: you have your own identity, I guess is what I'm

9:35 Speaker 10: trying to say. Like, you are Matt Axton and you

9:37 Speaker 10: have original music that you've created. You know, you're not

9:39 Speaker 10: doing You're you're not doing a show that where you

9:42 Speaker 10: just go out and play your dad's music for example.

9:44 Speaker 10: Maybe you have done that in the past. I don't know.

9:46 Speaker 10: But you have your own music, you have your own vibe,

9:48 Speaker 10: you have your own sound. But you also have this

9:51 Speaker 10: incredible legacy that you have to of your family that

9:54 Speaker 10: you have to carry around with you. Is there any

9:56 Speaker 10: kind of pressure with that or do you take that

9:58 Speaker 10: in stride or are you are you very comfortable with

10:00 Speaker 10: it or how do you how do you deal with that?

10:02 Speaker 10: I'm really curious about that.

10:04 Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, Well, you know, I don't think of it

10:07 Speaker 11: as a pressure much. I think of it more as

10:09 Speaker 11: an honor. Yeah, way, they're both. My grandmother was an

10:13 Speaker 11: amazing you know, songwriter and curator of community through art,

10:20 Speaker 11: and she started a lot of musicians in the industry,

10:22 Speaker 11: mainly in Nashville and in the sixties through the nineties,

10:26 Speaker 11: and so, you know, it's an amazing legacy to keep alive.

10:31 Speaker 11: But it's so like the communal I touched so many

10:34 Speaker 11: different genres, different generations of musicians, and I feel like

10:39 Speaker 11: I'm more walking with them than you know, it's like

10:42 Speaker 11: to have them on my shoulders, weighing anything down. And

10:45 Speaker 11: I'm lucky in one way too that the legacy I

10:48 Speaker 11: get to keep alive is pretty dang fun.

10:50 Speaker 1: Yeah.

10:50 Speaker 11: You know, my dad's biggest song was Joy of the World,

10:52 Speaker 11: and that was really his mantra around life is the

10:55 Speaker 11: joy of art and community that you can create through that. So,

11:00 Speaker 11: you know, every once in a while we'll do a

11:01 Speaker 11: white dedicated show, you know, I'll get grab his band

11:04 Speaker 11: and we'll do some some very very history leaden stuff.

11:08 Speaker 11: But for me, like I mentioned earlier, my dad was

11:11 Speaker 11: so eclectic. I can really mix in his songs in

11:14 Speaker 11: any way that we can, and that's a real challenge

11:17 Speaker 11: and a fun thing for me is to sort of

11:20 Speaker 11: like sort of weave in all the legacy stuff into

11:23 Speaker 11: our original songs as well. And then I have the

11:26 Speaker 11: accent curse of just way way too many songs, hundreds

11:29 Speaker 11: of them. They keep pouring out of my brain all

11:31 Speaker 11: the time. It's a curse, like I said, but it's

11:33 Speaker 11: also a really fun adventure every time. And one other

11:38 Speaker 11: thing that's different with my legacy too is a lot

11:39 Speaker 11: of legacy kids have one parent who's the creative and

11:43 Speaker 11: then one parent who sort of stays home and keeps

11:46 Speaker 11: everything balanced. And I did not have that aspect. My

11:49 Speaker 11: mom was my dad's piano player and band manager and

11:53 Speaker 11: tour manager. So when it was time to go on

11:55 Speaker 11: the road, it was a musical, you know, we all went,

11:57 Speaker 11: the whole family. So I was just always sort of,

12:00 Speaker 11: you know, in wrapped in this this lifestyle.

12:02 Speaker 10: Growing up in a family like that. Was it just

12:05 Speaker 10: kind of a foregone conclusion that this is what you

12:07 Speaker 10: were going to be doing? I mean, was there any

12:09 Speaker 10: was there or a moment growing up where you thought,

12:11 Speaker 10: you know, I might I might do this for a career,

12:13 Speaker 10: I might do that, I might do something else, or

12:15 Speaker 10: was it just always was this always the obvious path

12:18 Speaker 10: for you.

12:20 Speaker 11: I mean, truthfully, no, no, it wasn't. I mean music

12:22 Speaker 11: was always around. Like people ask like, oh, you know,

12:25 Speaker 11: did you did you like it? Were you going to

12:26 Speaker 11: do it? And I'm like, well, it just was always

12:27 Speaker 11: there was just a thing that was constantly happening. But

12:31 Speaker 11: I know, I was I was supposed to go. I

12:33 Speaker 11: got a scholarship to go play football at University of

12:36 Speaker 11: Oklahoma oh High School, and that was that was sort

12:38 Speaker 11: of my you know, my main direction. I was going

12:41 Speaker 11: to go do sports. And then I ended up hurting

12:44 Speaker 11: my knee really bad and had to get surgery. And

12:46 Speaker 11: as I was laid up for a few months, laying

12:48 Speaker 11: on the couch, I grabbed a guitar and I started drumming.

12:50 Speaker 11: I was like, wow, this is sort of easy. Let

12:52 Speaker 11: me see if I can write a tune. Okay, that

12:54 Speaker 11: was fun. Let's keep going. And what the rest is history.

12:56 Speaker 11: You haven't put it down since you know, I'll be damned.

12:58 Speaker 10: That's wild. So if you hadn't got hurt, you know,

13:01 Speaker 10: you you you might have gone on to the NFL.

13:02 Speaker 10: Who knows, right, But but it's interesting, so and and

13:05 Speaker 10: so obviously getting injured that's a terrible thing. But you know,

13:09 Speaker 10: you took it and you you did something positive with it,

13:13 Speaker 10: using that time to really, uh, to effectively start your

13:17 Speaker 10: music career right at that moment, you know, as your own,

13:20 Speaker 10: as your own entity on your own path. That's that's

13:22 Speaker 10: fantastic and uh, that's wild. Do you ever look back

13:25 Speaker 10: and think, I mean, do you still have thoughts about

13:29 Speaker 10: what would have happened if you had if you had

13:31 Speaker 10: been able to just continue to play football without the

13:34 Speaker 10: interruption of that injury? Do you ever do you ever

13:36 Speaker 10: have fantasies about playing in the NFL or anything like that?

13:38 Speaker 11: Or oh absolutely, especially when I go look at my

13:42 Speaker 11: bank statements and my guess, you know what was wrong

13:45 Speaker 11: with me? No, but but you know, it's one of

13:49 Speaker 11: those things. Everybody has those moments in our life right

13:51 Speaker 11: where it's the fork in the road and like, hey,

13:52 Speaker 11: if I would have chose this, what would have happened?

13:55 Speaker 11: What would my life be like? And the reality is,

13:59 Speaker 11: you know, as much fun as it would have been

14:01 Speaker 11: to do that and live that lifestyle, I love that.

14:03 Speaker 11: I actually coached high school basketball for ten years after that,

14:06 Speaker 11: when I was still you know, I was still an

14:08 Speaker 11: active musician up in Northern California. Where I'm from, I

14:11 Speaker 11: was able to coach and sort of the slow seasons,

14:13 Speaker 11: and so I've always been able to stay active in

14:15 Speaker 11: sports that way. Yeah, but I think, you know, music is,

14:22 Speaker 11: like you mentioned, it's such a connector. It's an amazing thing,

14:25 Speaker 11: you know, it's the only the closest thing to magic.

14:28 Speaker 11: I think we have in the world right art and

14:30 Speaker 11: music in particular and cross languages and oceans and generations.

14:34 Speaker 11: And the Night People has done well and really inspire

14:37 Speaker 11: people if it's it's needed. And I just think, you know,

14:41 Speaker 11: there's nothing more powerful than a really good good song sometimes,

14:45 Speaker 11: So that's that's an honor. And I tell you, boy,

14:48 Speaker 11: show was like my soul is very full. It's just

14:50 Speaker 11: my wallet and gas tank gra empty.

14:54 Speaker 10: Understandable, Matt, I don't. I don't know if something shifted

14:57 Speaker 10: on your end all of a sudden. The phone line

14:58 Speaker 10: is a little bit choppy. I don't know if you

15:00 Speaker 10: if you went to a different room or something.

15:03 Speaker 11: Okay, something, Well, I'm still here. I have not moved

15:07 Speaker 11: in the corner of this little room here.

15:08 Speaker 10: Okay. Yeah, it just sounds that's okay, Well, we'll we'll

15:12 Speaker 10: work with it though. And then so, uh, when you

15:17 Speaker 10: you said this, this is the longest store that you've

15:19 Speaker 10: been on so far, coming out, coming all the way

15:21 Speaker 10: out to the East coast.

15:24 Speaker 11: Yeah. Absolutely. So we usually go out to Nashville about

15:28 Speaker 11: every six months and sort of zigzag back to California

15:31 Speaker 11: and add some markets, and this is the first time

15:34 Speaker 11: we have decided to go east out of Nashville. We

15:37 Speaker 11: were there for Americana Fess for about a week and

15:39 Speaker 11: we got this gig up here in Great Barrington at

15:41 Speaker 11: the gut three Center, and we wanted to build a

15:44 Speaker 11: tour around it. So my mom is actually from upstate

15:47 Speaker 11: New York, so I've spent a little time growing, you know,

15:49 Speaker 11: as a kid coming out here. But we wanted to,

15:51 Speaker 11: you know, go full force and bring our music to

15:54 Speaker 11: to new ears and hopefully make a bunch of new friends.

15:56 Speaker 10: Oh outstanding. By the way, whatever was wrong with the

15:59 Speaker 10: phone cleared up, so it's just probably something some kind

16:01 Speaker 10: of external issue. I can hear you great now, so

16:04 Speaker 10: which is good because I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying talking with you.

16:07 Speaker 10: You mentioned too, you've got a lot of songs. Did

16:10 Speaker 10: I read this correctly? You've you've have you recorded over

16:13 Speaker 10: three hundred songs already. Is that number correct?

16:17 Speaker 11: I've written over three hundred songs. I'm all recorded about

16:20 Speaker 11: thirty or forty. But like I said, it's a continual process,

16:23 Speaker 11: I think for the rest of my existence.

16:27 Speaker 10: So when you go to record an album or you're

16:29 Speaker 10: gonna be going into the studio, is it hard to pick?

16:32 Speaker 10: I mean, it's a good problem to have, I guess, right,

16:34 Speaker 10: to have so much material, But is it hard to

16:36 Speaker 10: uh make those decisions about what you're gonna record and

16:39 Speaker 10: what you're gonna maybe put on the back burner knowing

16:42 Speaker 10: that you some songs you might never get a chance

16:44 Speaker 10: to record, right because you've written so many? I mean,

16:46 Speaker 10: is that is that difficult to narrow that down?

16:50 Speaker 11: I mean a little bit. And like I said, it's

16:52 Speaker 11: a good problem to have a problem on the left. Yeah,

16:55 Speaker 11: And what I try to do, I always try to

16:56 Speaker 11: do one one hot cover song every album, you know,

17:00 Speaker 11: pay homage to one of his tunes. Yeah, and so

17:05 Speaker 11: so that's going to add in, you know, a little

17:07 Speaker 11: bit more time to that process. But you know, right now,

17:10 Speaker 11: the group I'm bringing on tour, my main group, it's

17:13 Speaker 11: called you know, Mad Accident, Bad Moon is sort of

17:15 Speaker 11: a more country leaning Americana outfit. Ye, and we do

17:20 Speaker 11: a lot of we lean I tell for fans of

17:24 Speaker 11: white Accent and the Almond Brothers basically what we meet.

17:27 Speaker 11: So there's a lot of what we call guitar minies.

17:29 Speaker 11: There's two guitars sort of you know, singing together a lot,

17:32 Speaker 11: which brings you know, that that element of Almen Brothers,

17:36 Speaker 11: grateful Dead, you know, the southern rock element to it with.

17:40 Speaker 11: So so when we started playing a couple of years ago,

17:43 Speaker 11: naturally my songwriting style will start adjusting to that. I'll

17:47 Speaker 11: go dig into the vault and I'm like, oh, I

17:48 Speaker 11: wrote this song a long time ago that would fit

17:50 Speaker 11: really well. So it's constantly sort of you know, unearthing

17:53 Speaker 11: stuff and then adding new things and adjusting. So it's

17:56 Speaker 11: like I said, it's a it's a challenge, but it's

17:59 Speaker 11: something that you know, I will run at full force.

18:02 Speaker 10: Have you always played with a full band or did

18:04 Speaker 10: you ever do solo shows just you on a guitar

18:07 Speaker 10: on a on a seol or anything like that or

18:08 Speaker 10: is it always a full band?

18:11 Speaker 12: No?

18:11 Speaker 11: Absolutely, we sort of mix it up all the time.

18:13 Speaker 2: I do.

18:14 Speaker 11: I do a lot of solo you know, folks, singer

18:16 Speaker 11: songwriter stuff. That's how my dad, you know, cut his teeth.

18:20 Speaker 11: He just grabbed a guitar and jumped in the car

18:22 Speaker 11: and travel over the country in the early sixties and

18:25 Speaker 11: went to every music mecca he could find and just

18:27 Speaker 11: absorbed as much as he could.

18:29 Speaker 13: You know.

18:29 Speaker 11: He went up to New York, went to Chicago, went

18:31 Speaker 11: down south to the blues mecchas and and that really,

18:34 Speaker 11: you know, set them up on the path. Like I said,

18:37 Speaker 11: it me hyper eclectic and just really wanting to write

18:39 Speaker 11: a good song. And I couldn't help, but you know,

18:42 Speaker 11: sort of follow that path, and there's something, you know,

18:45 Speaker 11: it's a different connection with just you and a guitar

18:47 Speaker 11: on a stage. You know, there's nowhere to hide with

18:49 Speaker 11: the band you can have. You know, there's much higher hives.

18:52 Speaker 11: You know, you can just get so much more sound.

18:54 Speaker 11: But I enjoy both the truthfully. You know, when I

18:57 Speaker 11: grew when I was born, my dad was I'm my

19:00 Speaker 11: dad's youngest kid, so he was a lot more settled

19:03 Speaker 11: and had a very consistent band by the time I

19:05 Speaker 11: came around. But what he would do every show, if

19:07 Speaker 11: he would start it with the full band and they

19:09 Speaker 11: he'd send him off in the middle and he'd just

19:11 Speaker 11: come out with the guitar and do a lot of

19:13 Speaker 11: his early folk stuff, and that was always the moment

19:16 Speaker 11: that people sort of resonated with the most that resonated

19:19 Speaker 11: with them. Oh you know, so there's there's just something

19:23 Speaker 11: raw and really intimate about doing that, and I love it.

19:26 Speaker 11: I mean, I write all my songs that way. Yeah,

19:28 Speaker 11: you know, just me and a guitar sort of. I

19:30 Speaker 11: was born and raised up in Lake Tahoe, California, up

19:32 Speaker 11: in the heights here in Nevada Mountains, and you know,

19:35 Speaker 11: I just go sit out there on the porch and

19:36 Speaker 11: stare out into the into nature and try and get

19:39 Speaker 11: inspired whenever I can. And now I live in Los Angeles,

19:41 Speaker 11: so now I stare at traffic and get inspired.

19:43 Speaker 10: You know, it's a lot of fun, a lot of

19:45 Speaker 10: traffic there, that's for sure. So you mentioned it. So

19:48 Speaker 10: you're the youngest. You said, you're the youngest child of

19:51 Speaker 10: your dad. Yeah, yeah, did your siblings. I don't know

19:55 Speaker 10: how many siblings you have, but have any of them

19:58 Speaker 10: also taken this path or just you in terms of

20:01 Speaker 10: you know, your dad's legacy following that is and becoming

20:04 Speaker 10: a musician and doing all that you're doing. Are you

20:07 Speaker 10: the only one or.

20:09 Speaker 11: I'm the only one left doing it as a full

20:12 Speaker 11: time thing. All my siblings tried in some sort of form.

20:14 Speaker 11: My sister April tried to do She went more of

20:17 Speaker 11: the acting side of things. My oldest brother Mark went

20:20 Speaker 11: to the production side. He was the smart one, oh

20:22 Speaker 11: and stuff behind the scenes. And then my middle brother

20:26 Speaker 11: Michael was tried to do the sort of the traveling

20:28 Speaker 11: troubadour thing. So they all they all gave it a

20:30 Speaker 11: good shot and all talented in their own right. But

20:33 Speaker 11: now it's you know, it's followed on me. Like I said,

20:36 Speaker 11: I have, they had a different mother. My mom is

20:40 Speaker 11: the one who sort of like sort of balanced everything out.

20:42 Speaker 11: I tell people my mom is a classical piano master,

20:45 Speaker 11: like you know, maestro. Yeah, and my dad is a

20:48 Speaker 11: country bumpkin. So I land somewhere right in the middle

20:50 Speaker 11: of it too.

20:51 Speaker 1: I try so.

20:52 Speaker 10: Now I'm not sure you know you mentioned you're the youngest.

20:55 Speaker 10: I'm not sure when exactly your dad passed away, But

20:58 Speaker 10: did he ever get to see you you on a

21:01 Speaker 10: stage plane or I'm not sure the timeline.

21:05 Speaker 11: No, Yeah, so he passed away actually in nineteen ninety nine.

21:08 Speaker 11: Oh that millennium. Wow, you know when I was sixteen

21:11 Speaker 11: years old when he did. So, you know, we we

21:13 Speaker 11: we connected enough to have some good moments. But no,

21:17 Speaker 11: that was he passed before I was ever ever able

21:19 Speaker 11: to find my own voice. Really okay, But what he

21:23 Speaker 11: would do, you know when we were on tour, he'd

21:24 Speaker 11: bring the kids up every show, he picked songs to

21:27 Speaker 11: bring the kids up. We always do enjoy the world

21:28 Speaker 11: as a big family group at the end. So well,

21:31 Speaker 11: I got to be on stage with him and share

21:33 Speaker 11: some musical moments, but never got to show him, you know,

21:38 Speaker 11: show him my own voice.

21:39 Speaker 10: Like I said, Yeah, that's cool though that you got

21:41 Speaker 10: to be on stage with him, that's uh. And to

21:43 Speaker 10: do that, that's that's great. And what about your mother

21:47 Speaker 10: is she Is she still with us or.

21:50 Speaker 11: Yeah? Absolutely? She actually came out for the show last night.

21:54 Speaker 11: On very special occasions they get to bring her out

21:56 Speaker 11: and she still plays in the band and she's absolutely

21:58 Speaker 11: the highlight, the best person on the stage every time.

22:02 Speaker 11: And when I go back up to Lake Tahoe, I

22:05 Speaker 11: run a couple music festivals and nonprofit music you know,

22:10 Speaker 11: music nonprofits up in my hometown and she sort of

22:14 Speaker 11: leads that and we jump in. She jumps in the band,

22:16 Speaker 11: and I get to jump in her band all the time.

22:18 Speaker 11: So that part's still magical, keeping played alive with people.

22:22 Speaker 10: Oh in his band, that's that's fantastic. That must be

22:25 Speaker 10: so much fun. That is so cool that you get

22:27 Speaker 10: to do that. And I'm sure she's very very proud

22:30 Speaker 10: of you. And that's that's great.

22:32 Speaker 11: That's that's awesome, and and you know, and she's really

22:36 Speaker 11: good too. That's the fun part. It's not just being like, oh,

22:37 Speaker 11: here's my mom. It's all do something amazing and she

22:40 Speaker 11: does it.

22:41 Speaker 10: Oh, that's that's outstanding.

22:43 Speaker 1: Oh.

22:43 Speaker 10: By the way, So the tour, so I was reading,

22:45 Speaker 10: the tour is called Beast Goes East. Now, obviously the

22:48 Speaker 10: East I get because you're you're living on the West

22:51 Speaker 10: coast and we're on the East coast. But why why Beast?

22:56 Speaker 11: Well, so one of the people cannot tell from us

23:01 Speaker 11: talking about football and all that kind of good stuff.

23:03 Speaker 11: I'm a larger human being, okay. And one of our

23:08 Speaker 11: our mascots, you'd say, is that people people call me

23:11 Speaker 11: the last California and Grizzly, So there's a lot of

23:14 Speaker 11: bear influences and a lot of our artwork and all

23:17 Speaker 11: that kind of stuff. So it's more, you know, the

23:19 Speaker 11: Beastly Bear is finally treading east type thing and just rhymes,

23:23 Speaker 11: you know, as musicians like rhymes.

23:25 Speaker 10: Right right, that's true. Yeah. I'm looking at a picture

23:27 Speaker 10: on your website of you and three other guys who

23:31 Speaker 10: I assume are in your band, and you are kind

23:33 Speaker 10: of how tall are you because in this picture? But

23:36 Speaker 10: you can't tell from a picture. I mean you could

23:38 Speaker 10: be standing on something I don't know, but it looks

23:39 Speaker 10: like you're towering over everybody else.

23:43 Speaker 11: Well I make them do that. That's the ego things,

23:45 Speaker 11: got check them. No, But so I'm about six four.

23:51 Speaker 11: Oh you're a good day.

23:52 Speaker 10: Okay. You're a big guy.

23:54 Speaker 11: Yeah, yep, yump, and you know, two hundred and sixty pounds,

23:59 Speaker 11: but getting a little bigger every day on tour. I'll

24:00 Speaker 11: tell you what. But it's you know, Also, it's funny

24:05 Speaker 11: because I have a pretty tall band too. Just really

24:07 Speaker 11: happen that way, and so most people don't notice until

24:10 Speaker 11: I get off stage, you know, then I start talking

24:12 Speaker 11: to like, oh my god, they're like what happens, pecially

24:15 Speaker 11: with the cowboy boots? On being near eight feet tall, right, so,

24:19 Speaker 11: but yeah, that's the best the beast sleep part.

24:21 Speaker 1: Like I said, where.

24:22 Speaker 10: Does your height come from? Was your father tall?

24:26 Speaker 11: You know, he was about six feet tall, but he

24:29 Speaker 11: was he was as wide as the Mississippi type of thing.

24:31 Speaker 11: And yeah, he always wore cowboy boots and a big

24:34 Speaker 11: cowboy hat. So he just had one of those larger

24:35 Speaker 11: than life sort of personalities and statues. My mom's tall.

24:39 Speaker 11: My mom's six foot one, So I think six' one

24:42 Speaker 11: plus six feet equals six four and that's.

24:43 Speaker 10: Just matha think, Well, that's definitely Yeah, there's definitely something

24:46 Speaker 10: genetic on your mom's side, because six to one that's

24:48 Speaker 10: very tall for a woman that's very tall. Yeah right,

24:51 Speaker 10: oh yeah, that would that would that would definitely explain it. Wow,

24:54 Speaker 10: So you're gonna be uh so, what's your for our

24:57 Speaker 10: listeners who are in the area. Of course, you know

24:59 Speaker 10: online we have listeners all over, but for our local

25:01 Speaker 10: listeners who listen on FM here in Manchester, what what

25:04 Speaker 10: should they What should they expect? Again, you're going to

25:07 Speaker 10: be at the Rex Theater on September twenty fourth. Looks

25:09 Speaker 10: like shows at seven point thirty. Do you have a

25:13 Speaker 10: do you have an opener with you or or is

25:15 Speaker 10: it is it just you and your band? Or how

25:17 Speaker 10: does that? How does that work?

25:19 Speaker 11: No, this one is just us and our band. You know,

25:21 Speaker 11: when we were reaching out trying to figure out how

25:23 Speaker 11: to set this tour up, you know, the Palace Theater

25:26 Speaker 11: and the Rex Theater are like, hey, you let's just

25:27 Speaker 11: give it a shot. Just come out here and see

25:29 Speaker 11: if we can, you know, give you a good a

25:32 Speaker 11: good spotlight to bring your music. And yeah, very grateful

25:35 Speaker 11: for that. Like I said, it's our first time in

25:36 Speaker 11: all these markets and we'd love to sort of make

25:39 Speaker 11: this a routine. We've had a great tour so far,

25:43 Speaker 11: just like I said, meeting good people and telling good stories.

25:45 Speaker 11: And we sort of adjust the show to every different venue.

25:48 Speaker 11: You know, on this tour, we've done a couple of festivals.

25:51 Speaker 11: We do some late night honky tonks, some fun little

25:53 Speaker 11: divy bars, and we really changed the show to every place.

25:57 Speaker 11: And I know, like last night at the Guthree Center,

26:00 Speaker 11: we did a little more intimate, a little a lot

26:02 Speaker 11: more history and storytelling and explaining the ins and outs

26:06 Speaker 11: and the whiys of the artistic lifestyle and all that

26:08 Speaker 11: fun stuff. So the rest will be similar to that.

26:11 Speaker 11: But at the same time, we like to we like

26:13 Speaker 11: to you know, rock out and groove out and get

26:15 Speaker 11: people to sort of tap their feet and have a

26:17 Speaker 11: good time. So it's going to be a good mix

26:19 Speaker 11: of those and that's my job is to figure out

26:22 Speaker 11: exactly how to give you, guys, the best experience for

26:25 Speaker 11: the people in the room.

26:27 Speaker 10: I'm curious, Sue, do you know do you know ahead

26:29 Speaker 10: of time before you arrive at the venue, do you

26:33 Speaker 10: know enough about that particular venue where you've already planned

26:36 Speaker 10: out what the show is or or are you going

26:38 Speaker 10: into that are you kind of reading the room? Like

26:40 Speaker 10: do you arrive at the venue and you kind of

26:42 Speaker 10: check the place out and you think, Okay, now that

26:44 Speaker 10: I'm here, Now that I'm physically here and I can

26:46 Speaker 10: take this all in. Now I kind of know what

26:50 Speaker 10: the show is going to be tonight. I mean, is

26:52 Speaker 10: it that spontaneous or do you already know before you

26:54 Speaker 10: arrive at the venue.

26:56 Speaker 11: No, it's a good mix, you know, especially for new

26:59 Speaker 11: markets and new venue, is right you sort of you know,

27:01 Speaker 11: we know this is more of a seated theater, so

27:03 Speaker 11: we'll treat that a little differently than we will, Like

27:05 Speaker 11: a couple of days ago, we played at this you know,

27:07 Speaker 11: rockous honky Tonk in New York City, So we're gonna

27:10 Speaker 11: we know, we're gonna treat those a little differently in general, right,

27:13 Speaker 11: but you know, we also adjust when we get in there.

27:17 Speaker 11: We want to fill the I mean, this sounds so

27:19 Speaker 11: hippie dippy artists, but we're gonna like sort of fill

27:21 Speaker 11: the energy and yep and talk to the staff and

27:24 Speaker 11: talk to you know, see who's coming and showing up

27:26 Speaker 11: and sort of working around that. And it's really a challenge,

27:29 Speaker 11: but it's a really fun one and something that you know,

27:31 Speaker 11: we're working really hard on and very proud of the

27:34 Speaker 11: ability to do that.

27:36 Speaker 10: And it's nice that you play the style that you

27:39 Speaker 10: play and the configuration of your band and everything that

27:41 Speaker 10: gives you some flexibility to kind of change that on

27:44 Speaker 10: the fly if you need to, which is which I'm

27:46 Speaker 10: sure is very nice. I'm always kind of jealous of that.

27:48 Speaker 10: I'm a musician and I've played in some bands, but

27:50 Speaker 10: none of the bands that I ever played in were

27:52 Speaker 10: the kind of band where we could show up at

27:53 Speaker 10: a venue and say, oh, let's change the vibe a

27:57 Speaker 10: little bit. You know what I mean. It's like if

27:59 Speaker 10: you're playing in a you know, a hardcore metal band

28:02 Speaker 10: or something, it's, you know what, you're doing the same

28:05 Speaker 10: thing no matter where you're playing. But I've always been

28:08 Speaker 10: kind of envious of musicians who have that a scenario

28:12 Speaker 10: where they can kind of switch it up if they

28:14 Speaker 10: need to. But no, that's really cool. So that's gonna

28:16 Speaker 10: be uh yeah, September twenty fourth at the Seventh at

28:19 Speaker 10: seven thirty pm at the at the Rex Theater right

28:22 Speaker 10: in downtown Manchester and by the way too for our

28:25 Speaker 10: local listeners. If you've never been to the Rex, it's

28:27 Speaker 10: really beautiful, so you should definitely check it out. And

28:30 Speaker 10: this sounds like it's going to be a great show.

28:32 Speaker 10: So Matt, before we let you go, and we are

28:35 Speaker 10: going to play another track at the end of our conversation,

28:38 Speaker 10: I think I'm gonna play Same Old Story because that's

28:40 Speaker 10: another one that I really like a lot. I think

28:42 Speaker 10: that's really cool. But anything else too. We should know

28:45 Speaker 10: about how people should find you online. Where's the best

28:48 Speaker 10: place to go to follow everything that you're doing. I

28:50 Speaker 10: know you've got you've got a huge social media following,

28:53 Speaker 10: which is fantastic. And such an important part too of

28:57 Speaker 10: you know, the times that we live in having that

28:58 Speaker 10: social media following. That's something your dad never had to

29:01 Speaker 10: worry about, certainly, but in twenty twenty five, you gotta

29:04 Speaker 10: work with social media. But where's the best place for

29:07 Speaker 10: people to go online to follow everything that you're doing?

29:11 Speaker 11: Yes, or main site and a number one I cannot

29:13 Speaker 11: agree more Like, we just live in a digital social

29:17 Speaker 11: world now, and so that's what it's all about, right,

29:20 Speaker 11: I mean, the power is in the independent artist's hands,

29:22 Speaker 11: and I'm fiercely, proudly independent when it comes to that stuff.

29:25 Speaker 11: So every every clap and every click really matters a

29:28 Speaker 11: lot to people in our realm.

29:31 Speaker 10: Yep.

29:32 Speaker 11: But so matdaccident dot com is the main site, very simple,

29:35 Speaker 11: and then Matt acts and music on all the social

29:37 Speaker 11: media platforms on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all those things.

29:42 Speaker 11: And you know, it's something social media is amazing because

29:45 Speaker 11: you can really connect with people that you wouldn't really

29:48 Speaker 11: have got any chance to in the past. It can

29:50 Speaker 11: be daunting and crazy at times, but in the end,

29:52 Speaker 11: it's that's what it's about, with connecting with people. So

29:55 Speaker 11: please come say hi on any sort of way. Obviously

29:58 Speaker 11: in person is the best, so they can I can

30:00 Speaker 11: builk you for all your all your bitcoins or whatever.

30:04 Speaker 8: You know.

30:05 Speaker 11: But in the end, I said, it's just about connecting

30:08 Speaker 11: with people and spreading a little bit of joy.

30:10 Speaker 10: That's our job absolutely. And before before we let you

30:13 Speaker 10: go and we're gonna play this track, same old story.

30:15 Speaker 10: Anything we should know about this song. I really like

30:18 Speaker 10: this song a lot too, Anything we should know about it?

30:22 Speaker 11: Yeah, So this is one I was talking about earlier

30:24 Speaker 11: where I've had it for quite a while and when

30:27 Speaker 11: I got this band together, I've had my right hand man,

30:30 Speaker 11: guitar player Taylor krop Slash Almond Brothers proteget sort of

30:35 Speaker 11: playing with him for about three years, two and a

30:37 Speaker 11: half years. He's the main other player in the band.

30:40 Speaker 11: Once he joined the band, I was like, Oh, I'm

30:42 Speaker 11: gonna go dig into my archives and pull this song out,

30:44 Speaker 11: and it's become sort of a staple. It's the last

30:46 Speaker 11: single we just released. It's the one we're turning around

30:48 Speaker 11: right now, and very proud, very proud of it. And

30:52 Speaker 11: it's just a good old fashioned like sort of outlaw

30:54 Speaker 11: country vibe, but with the you know, the the the

30:58 Speaker 11: story of the common things, you know, some some some money,

31:02 Speaker 11: some heartbreak, some life experiences that we all sort of

31:05 Speaker 11: connect with at the end with a little uplift at

31:08 Speaker 11: the end, saying hey man, we can all, we can

31:10 Speaker 11: all figure this out. It's just the same old story.

31:12 Speaker 11: Let's go.

31:12 Speaker 10: Yeah, I love it, absolutely love it, very good. So

31:15 Speaker 10: we're gonna we're gonna end with that. So we'll let

31:17 Speaker 10: you go so we can hit that track. But matt Axon,

31:19 Speaker 10: thank you so much. Have a great show, have a

31:21 Speaker 10: we'll have a great Where are you playing tonight, by

31:23 Speaker 10: the way.

31:25 Speaker 11: We're playing out in New Jersey somewhere. Oh, I don't

31:28 Speaker 11: even know where I.

31:29 Speaker 10: W day somewhere on these cost people can go to

31:32 Speaker 10: the website to find it. But UH, so I have

31:34 Speaker 10: a great show tonight in New Jersey. And and of course,

31:37 Speaker 10: UH sounds like the tour is going well, so we

31:40 Speaker 10: wish you continued success with that. And UH look forward

31:42 Speaker 10: to having you in Manchester on September twenty fourth. And

31:45 Speaker 10: thank you so much for joining us today. I really

31:47 Speaker 10: enjoyed the conversation.

31:48 Speaker 1: UH.

31:48 Speaker 10: You've been generous with your time. It's great to speak

31:50 Speaker 10: with you, and UH, and UH be safe.

31:53 Speaker 1: On the road.

31:55 Speaker 11: Well, thank you so much for letting me talk. And

31:57 Speaker 11: uh and uh you know a great name by the way,

32:01 Speaker 11: Matt's to Nite.

32:02 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, absolutely, Matt's to Night.

32:05 Speaker 1: I like it.

32:07 Speaker 11: All right, thk you again and yeah, thanks for playing

32:09 Speaker 11: our music out there.

32:10 Speaker 10: You got it, you got it all right, Matt, Thank you,

32:12 Speaker 10: take care all right bye? All right. That was the

32:15 Speaker 10: great Matt Axton. And again He will be in Manchester

32:18 Speaker 10: at the Rex Theater on September twenty fourth, seven thirty pm.

32:22 Speaker 10: But let's play this again. I really really like this

32:24 Speaker 10: song a lot. This is called same old story and

32:26 Speaker 10: this is Matt Axton.

32:36 Speaker 1: It's the same.

32:39 Speaker 14: Old story once say again? And I guess some things

32:53 Speaker 14: just name.

32:57 Speaker 8: Change.

33:12 Speaker 4: Well, now, he was just a nice young man getting

33:18 Speaker 4: by the best he can, just wanted to do things right,

33:25 Speaker 4: have a happy house and home, shrid to love. His

33:28 Speaker 4: wife came back one day after.

33:34 Speaker 6: Sleeping all way, opening the door up the stairs, but

33:41 Speaker 6: his wife was not a loan up there.

33:45 Speaker 1: It's broken. Oh, it's a broken heart and home. But

33:57 Speaker 1: it's the same story. Won't again?

34:05 Speaker 10: And I guess some things just say a change.

34:13 Speaker 1: Won't you try a bit?

34:15 Speaker 8: Now?

34:15 Speaker 1: You won't mother?

34:16 Speaker 10: Then if you take too much, too little, vactor.

34:20 Speaker 8: Turn the bad.

34:22 Speaker 15: Money don't mean a thing when you're stone, read book.

34:27 Speaker 1: Don't bother me for change. They have be healthy as

34:32 Speaker 1: long as you can remember. There's no money in the cure.

34:37 Speaker 8: It's in the treatment. Man.

34:41 Speaker 1: But it's the same old story. Won't again. And I

34:50 Speaker 1: guess somethings just say a change. I am just one

35:56 Speaker 1: little life, an actor in this great It lived day

36:01 Speaker 1: and night just to think, think in the scheme of time.

36:07 Speaker 1: Grateful for what I have and what I find amaze.

36:12 Speaker 6: That's what I grab.

36:14 Speaker 1: I'm the ones that came before to give me a change.

36:22 Speaker 1: But it's the same old story once again.

36:30 Speaker 2: Man.

36:31 Speaker 1: I guess somethings just need a shame.

36:38 Speaker 13: But it's the same one story was again and I

36:47 Speaker 13: guess somethings the same.

36:51 Speaker 10: A change. That's a fun song, same old story. That

37:22 Speaker 10: is Matt Axton and Matt Axton will be at the

37:25 Speaker 10: Rex Theater on September twenty fourth, right here in Manchester,

37:28 Speaker 10: New Hampshire, so check him out. But of course I

37:31 Speaker 10: know we have listeners online from all over, so if

37:33 Speaker 10: you go to Mattaxton dot com you can find all

37:36 Speaker 10: this to our dates. He's gonna be playing he said,

37:38 Speaker 10: somewhere in New Jersey tonight, and I really enjoyed speaking

37:41 Speaker 10: with him, So thank you again, Matt. If you're still listening,

37:43 Speaker 10: thank you again for joining us this morning. I really

37:45 Speaker 10: enjoyed our conversation and I am definitely a fan. And

37:49 Speaker 10: check out Matt Axton online. He's got a big social

37:52 Speaker 10: media following too, so he's very easy to easy to find.

37:55 Speaker 10: But again, he will be at the Rex Theater right

37:57 Speaker 10: here in Manchester on September twenty fourth, so be sure

38:01 Speaker 10: to uh you can get your tickets right online. And

38:04 Speaker 10: let's see, well, speaking of shows and so forth, so well,

38:09 Speaker 10: we'll get to this in a moment. There's there's some

38:11 Speaker 10: pretty big music industry news I do want to dive

38:14 Speaker 10: into with Jenny for a few minutes. But first we

38:16 Speaker 10: should also talk about what we did one week ago

38:18 Speaker 10: today last Saturday, because we went to a couple of

38:20 Speaker 10: great events. Yeah, we did, so, we went to uh,

38:23 Speaker 10: we had your your art was featured in the what

38:26 Speaker 10: was the actual name of the show again.

38:28 Speaker 16: Well Circle it's the annual Full Circle show at the

38:31 Speaker 16: Mosaic Art Collective yep, and I have two pieces on display.

38:36 Speaker 10: Only one is available. Oh yes, one of them soulds congratulationing.

38:40 Speaker 16: Yeah, that was amazing. I've never actually had something stell

38:43 Speaker 16: at the opening before, so that was actually really cool

38:46 Speaker 16: to have happened. Yes, there's a whole lot of people.

38:48 Speaker 16: There are lots of good food, lots of good people.

38:50 Speaker 16: And you know, if you don't know the Mosaic Are Collective,

38:53 Speaker 16: you really should. It's one of the greatest art places

38:56 Speaker 16: I think here in the Queen City. I'm a little biased,

38:59 Speaker 16: maybe I don't know, but you should go check it out.

39:01 Speaker 16: The Full Circle. The show is going to be staying

39:05 Speaker 16: up for the rest of the month, and there is

39:07 Speaker 16: currently an an open call right now for the Exquisite

39:11 Speaker 16: Corpse Show and that show opening will be October eleventh.

39:15 Speaker 16: The deadline to submit pieces is us I believe September

39:19 Speaker 16: twenty eighth. September twenty eighth at midnight is the deadline.

39:23 Speaker 16: If you go to Mosaic Artcollective dot com you can

39:26 Speaker 16: see the instructions. It's very easy to submit and you

39:29 Speaker 16: know it's worth doing. In this particular show, they're looking

39:34 Speaker 16: for not just you know, scary, but unique, the unexpected

39:39 Speaker 16: things that inspire you, creations that are strange that are uncanny,

39:45 Speaker 16: that emerge from themselves. If you will, you know, take

39:49 Speaker 16: it as you will, go read up on it at

39:51 Speaker 16: mosaic Our Collective. I highly highly encourage you to do that.

39:54 Speaker 16: The art collective is located at sixty six Hanover Suite,

39:58 Speaker 16: Suite two oh one here in the Queen City, and

40:01 Speaker 16: they also have an upcoming event coming up on September

40:05 Speaker 16: twenty ninth at five forty five pm until seven ten.

40:10 Speaker 16: They're hosting a new series called the Artist Talk Series.

40:13 Speaker 16: It's going to take place once a month. It's going

40:15 Speaker 16: to feature a panel discussion as well as talks from

40:18 Speaker 16: professional artists and this month it is Florent Porisano. I'm

40:23 Speaker 16: sorry if I pronounced your name wrong, please forgive me.

40:26 Speaker 16: The front doors do lock at six pm, so if

40:29 Speaker 16: you come up late, you're gonna need to call the

40:31 Speaker 16: gallery to have somebody come in and get you in.

40:33 Speaker 16: And that's coming up here on September twenty ninth at

40:35 Speaker 16: five forty five right here at the mosaic Are Collective

40:39 Speaker 16: at sixty six Hanover Street, Sweet to one, Manchester, New Hampshire.

40:43 Speaker 16: Mosaic Arcollective dot com. I highly encourage you to go

40:46 Speaker 16: check it out very good, very good.

40:48 Speaker 10: And then of course we went over to Bad Burger

40:50 Speaker 10: that was so fun, Vices Inc. Vices Inc. And Plague Dad,

40:56 Speaker 10: and of course Under the Horizon, who we were talking

40:58 Speaker 10: about a bit in the first hour with our guests.

41:00 Speaker 10: Under the Horizon came up in that conversation. Yeah, absolutely, swhere.

41:04 Speaker 16: Every time I see them, the better and better.

41:06 Speaker 10: They've gotten louder and heavier, and they're just so good

41:08 Speaker 10: and they're so young too, They've got a huge career

41:10 Speaker 10: ahead of them. So yeah, we love Under the Horizon. Great,

41:13 Speaker 10: great job, and they really did. They put their all

41:15 Speaker 10: into everything.

41:16 Speaker 16: There's so much energy in the stage you can't help

41:18 Speaker 16: but just like get excited and should check them out.

41:20 Speaker 10: And Bad Burger is great. That was the first show.

41:22 Speaker 10: They've been doing shows there for for quite a few

41:24 Speaker 10: That was our first visit. That was our first visit to. Yeah,

41:28 Speaker 10: and the sound was great, and yeah the Burger is

41:30 Speaker 10: really good.

41:31 Speaker 16: Oh, the sound was excellent. The sound was excellent. And

41:34 Speaker 16: I really took note of the fact that they really

41:36 Speaker 16: took care of the artists. Yes, each individual band, each

41:39 Speaker 16: individual artists. They didn't just set it and forget it.

41:41 Speaker 10: No, very professional.

41:43 Speaker 16: Yeah, big time, So definitely a great place to go

41:45 Speaker 16: check out a band, have a bite to eat. We

41:48 Speaker 16: definitely enjoyed ourselves and I would I would. And they

41:52 Speaker 16: had that huge truck out front, so you can't miss it.

41:55 Speaker 16: There's a big monster truck on Elm Street that says

41:59 Speaker 16: bad Burger, so you can find it very easily right there.

42:02 Speaker 14: You stop and see that.

42:04 Speaker 16: I would definitely suggest doing that and check out under

42:06 Speaker 16: the Horizon play Dad, Oh my god, I love him.

42:09 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was just it was a really great show.

42:11 Speaker 10: Vice's Inc.

42:12 Speaker 13: Was amazing.

42:13 Speaker 16: It was so enjoyable and I really liked the venue

42:16 Speaker 16: because I had it was comfortable, I could sit comfortably.

42:20 Speaker 10: So yeah, that was cool, really good, really good. And

42:23 Speaker 10: then you want to mention what's happening today?

42:26 Speaker 16: Yes, today, today, today, today, go over to the Great

42:29 Speaker 16: north Ale Works for their Paws and Pints party fundraiser

42:33 Speaker 16: happening today from one pm to four pm. Matt and

42:36 Speaker 16: I are definitely going to be stopping by. This is

42:38 Speaker 16: a great, great thing. They actually ran a contest where

42:42 Speaker 16: people submitted their pets, photos, cats and dogs to see

42:48 Speaker 16: who was gonna win and be printed on their new

42:52 Speaker 16: paw prints Blonde Ale, which is releasing today and they

42:56 Speaker 16: used it as a fundraiser to benefit our local here,

42:59 Speaker 16: the New Hampshire Animal Rescue League. And they raised forty

43:02 Speaker 16: nine thousand dollars in the label contest alone for the

43:08 Speaker 16: Animal Rescue League of New Hampshire.

43:09 Speaker 10: That is amazing. That is absolutely amazing.

43:12 Speaker 16: So if you go down there today, they're gonna reveal

43:14 Speaker 16: the cans, you're gonna see who won the contest, what

43:16 Speaker 16: animal is on the pawp pints blonde Ale. They're going

43:20 Speaker 16: to have cans to go available. They come in four

43:24 Speaker 16: packs as well. There is going to be just like

43:28 Speaker 16: a party atmosphere fundraiser. They're raising more money today. All

43:33 Speaker 16: of this, all these proceeds are going to the Animal

43:34 Speaker 16: Rescue League of New Hampshire, which is awesome. You know,

43:37 Speaker 16: anybody's been around us.

43:38 Speaker 6: No.

43:38 Speaker 16: Matt and I are our Katie parents and we love animals,

43:43 Speaker 16: and I know that there was a large throth of animals,

43:47 Speaker 16: especially cats, recently brought in to the state from flood zones.

43:53 Speaker 16: So I know there's a lot of animals in the

43:55 Speaker 16: state needing care, needing help, and needing fosters and needing homes.

43:59 Speaker 16: So please do check out the Animal Rescue League of

44:01 Speaker 16: New Yamshire and if you can make a donation great,

44:05 Speaker 16: If you can help out or in any way possible,

44:09 Speaker 16: please I encourage you to and I would definitely Matt

44:11 Speaker 16: and I would definitely love to see you today at

44:13 Speaker 16: the Great North Aleworks, located at ten fifty colt Ab

44:16 Speaker 16: Unit fourteen, right here in the Queens City. If you've

44:19 Speaker 16: never been there, it's an excellent place.

44:22 Speaker 10: I love the tacos. I'm just gonna say that out loud.

44:24 Speaker 16: I love the tacos and it's a wonderful family owned business.

44:29 Speaker 16: Buy local, Shop local, go check out the Great North

44:32 Speaker 16: al Works and they're awesome. Pause and pints fundraiser today.

44:37 Speaker 10: Very good, Very good. We have a little bit of

44:40 Speaker 10: time I want to get in a music news story.

44:42 Speaker 10: You know, we do like to cover if we have

44:44 Speaker 10: a little bit of time in the show some weeks,

44:46 Speaker 10: we'll cover some music industry news going on, especially with

44:50 Speaker 10: the audience we have. We know a lot of musicians

44:52 Speaker 10: listen to the show, a lot of industry people, and

44:54 Speaker 10: I happen to see this pop up and this relates

44:56 Speaker 10: to a subject that comes up often on the show,

44:59 Speaker 10: and that is Live Nation and it's a ticketing arm Ticketmaster.

45:03 Speaker 10: It's the same company. If you didn't know Live Nation

45:05 Speaker 10: and Ticketmaster, they are interchangeable, kind of like Comcasts and Exfinity.

45:09 Speaker 16: You can say either one and it's the same company.

45:11 Speaker 16: But again Healthcare Optum owned by the same people. Yeah,

45:15 Speaker 16: everybody's good. Like businesses have like a ton of these days,

45:18 Speaker 16: but it is kind of hard to keep track of

45:20 Speaker 16: the subsidiaries.

45:21 Speaker 10: This is from Music Businessworldwide dot Com and I didn't

45:23 Speaker 10: realize this until this morning, but this just happened a

45:27 Speaker 10: couple of days ago. Live Nation and Ticketmaster sued by

45:31 Speaker 10: the Federal Trade Commission over alleged illegal ticket resale tactics.

45:36 Speaker 10: Because something that we've talked about on the show whenever

45:39 Speaker 10: we talk about Live Nation and Ticketmaster is how you know,

45:42 Speaker 10: because obviously over the years, ticket prices keep going up

45:46 Speaker 10: and up and up, long before there was any hint

45:49 Speaker 10: of severe inflation in the economy, just completely separate from

45:52 Speaker 10: all that, you know, and people people feel gouged and

45:55 Speaker 10: it gets so expensive. And one of the things that

45:57 Speaker 10: goes on is, you know, we've talked on the show

46:01 Speaker 10: about how these small companies that are effectively ticket scalpers

46:06 Speaker 10: will buy up as soon as Live Nation puts a

46:08 Speaker 10: show on sale, they'll buy up a bunch of tickets

46:10 Speaker 10: and they'll resell them on their own sites at a

46:14 Speaker 10: higher price, especially once Live Nation Ticketmaster runs out of

46:19 Speaker 10: the tickets. But a lot of them have been bought

46:21 Speaker 10: up by scalpers who then resell them. But what a

46:23 Speaker 10: lot of people don't know is some of these companies

46:26 Speaker 10: that are doing that are actually owned buy Ticketmaster. So

46:30 Speaker 10: Ticketmaster sells tickets to these own their own yeah, to

46:35 Speaker 10: themselves effectively, and use this system to jack up the prices. Yeah,

46:40 Speaker 10: most people don't realize.

46:41 Speaker 16: I know about scalpers, and I've always thought that these

46:45 Speaker 16: companies are supposed to have safeguards in place stop all

46:48 Speaker 16: of that. Yeah, so I will say that, not that

46:51 Speaker 16: I'm totally surprised, but heck wow.

46:54 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a dirty, dirty business.

46:57 Speaker 16: And then selling them back to you for triple the costs.

47:00 Speaker 10: So yeah, So here's the story. This is again, this

47:04 Speaker 10: is from Music Business Worldwide dot Com. The Federal Trade

47:08 Speaker 10: Commission has sued Live Nation and its ticketing arm, Ticketmaster,

47:11 Speaker 10: accusing the company of profiting from scalpers operating on its platform.

47:17 Speaker 10: In a complaint filed on Thursday, September eighteenth, and the

47:20 Speaker 10: US District Court for the Central District of California. The

47:23 Speaker 10: FTC accused Ticketmaster of failing to uphold its own ticket

47:27 Speaker 10: purchase limits, in effect allowing scalle Yeah, in effect allowing

47:33 Speaker 10: scalpers to buy up large numbers of tickets and to

47:36 Speaker 10: resell them on the secondary market at markups. So the

47:41 Speaker 10: secondary market, that's these you know, it's them Joe's Tickets

47:47 Speaker 10: dot Com or whatever. Yeah, you know.

47:51 Speaker 16: It only three yeah, yeah, they buy all the tickets,

47:54 Speaker 16: and then if you really want to go, Yeah, the

47:57 Speaker 16: only way to go is to pay those guys.

47:59 Speaker 10: And that's why Ticketmaster limits how many tickets you can buy.

48:02 Speaker 10: It once except except they don't actually do it for themselves. Apparently.

48:06 Speaker 10: The FTC says Ticketmaster is motivated to do this because

48:09 Speaker 10: it makes additional fees on the tickets resale. Ticketmaster can

48:15 Speaker 10: triple dip on fees, collecting fees from one brokers when

48:20 Speaker 10: they purchase the tickets on the primary market, two brokers

48:24 Speaker 10: again when Ticketmaster sells their tickets on Ticketmaster's secondary market,

48:30 Speaker 10: and finally three consumers who purchase tickets from Ticketmaster on

48:35 Speaker 10: its secondary market. Unquote says the complaint. Joining the FTC

48:41 Speaker 10: in the lawsuit are the district attorneys of seven states, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Nebraska, Tennessee, Utah,

48:49 Speaker 10: and Virginia. The complaint alleges that Ticketmaster violated the Bots

48:55 Speaker 10: Act bots. The Bots Act, the twenty sixteen law for

49:00 Speaker 10: forbidding the use of bots to buy tickets in online stores.

49:05 Speaker 10: Live Nation has in the past supported the Bots Act,

49:09 Speaker 10: or at least you know, on the public Publicly, the

49:13 Speaker 10: FTC notes that Live Nation's policy is to allow artists

49:16 Speaker 10: to sell to set ticket purchase limits themselves, but quote,

49:21 Speaker 10: in private, defendants have tacitly worked with these very same scalpers,

49:27 Speaker 10: allowing them to unlawfully purchase millions of dollars in tickets

49:31 Speaker 10: in the primary market, so that defendants can extract more

49:35 Speaker 10: profit for themselves when reselling those tickets on the secondary market.

49:40 Speaker 10: Unquote what ruins the world. The FTC alleges that Ticketmaster

49:45 Speaker 10: has been aware for years that certain ticket buyers have

49:48 Speaker 10: violated the limit and turned a blind eye to the practice.

49:52 Speaker 10: The complaint states that in twenty eighteen, Ticketmaster identified five

49:58 Speaker 10: ticket brokers who control six three hundred forty five Ticketmaster

50:02 Speaker 10: accounts and possessed more than two hundred forty six thousands

50:07 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, two hundred forty six thousand tickets to nearly

50:10 Speaker 10: twenty six hundred events Jesus FTC complaint against Live Nation. Okay,

50:16 Speaker 10: so oh, we have to have the ticket prices up

50:19 Speaker 10: so high, so, the complaint states, quote. In public, defendants

50:24 Speaker 10: maintain that their business model is at odds with brokers

50:27 Speaker 10: that routinely exceed ticket limits. In private, defendants acknowledge that

50:32 Speaker 10: their business model and bottom line benefit from brokers preventing

50:35 Speaker 10: ordinary Americans from purchasing tickets to the shows they want

50:39 Speaker 10: to see at the prices artists set unquote. The FDC

50:43 Speaker 10: also alleges that Ticketmaster is engaged in bait and switch tactics,

50:49 Speaker 10: in which the company displays deceptively low ticket prices to

50:53 Speaker 10: consumers and ends up charging much more at checkout. And

50:57 Speaker 10: by the way, anyone who's ever bought tickets from Ticketmaster

51:00 Speaker 10: knows exactly what that's about. You look at the price

51:02 Speaker 10: of the tickets and you think, Okay, they're going to

51:04 Speaker 10: cost this. I'm going to get two tickets. They're going

51:06 Speaker 10: to cost this. Probably some sort of extra fee involved,

51:09 Speaker 10: so it might be a little bit more, and then

51:10 Speaker 10: you get to check out and it turns out it's like,

51:12 Speaker 10: you know, you thought you were spending two hundred dollars

51:15 Speaker 10: on tickets, You're actually spending over three hundred dollars on

51:18 Speaker 10: tickets with all the fees and everything else. And is

51:21 Speaker 10: this fee and that fee and you know anyway, so

51:24 Speaker 10: it says your Live. Nation announced in twenty twenty three

51:27 Speaker 10: that it was switching to an all in pricing model

51:30 Speaker 10: at its owned venues in the US, under which the

51:33 Speaker 10: final price, including fees, but excluding sales taxes, is shown

51:36 Speaker 10: at the very beginning of the ticket purchase process. CEO

51:40 Speaker 10: Michael Rapino has said that the switch to all in

51:43 Speaker 10: pricing has proven to be a success, and the company

51:46 Speaker 10: has backed efforts to make all in pricing the law.

51:50 Speaker 10: Despite this, the FTC alleges that quote over the last decade,

51:55 Speaker 10: the first price the consumer has seen on Ticketmaster's platform

51:59 Speaker 10: has almost it's never been the price the consumer pays.

52:02 Speaker 10: According to internal Ticketmaster documents, the average percentage of fees

52:06 Speaker 10: charged on tickets ranges from twenty four to forty four

52:09 Speaker 10: percent of the total price from twenty nineteen through twenty

52:13 Speaker 10: twenty four, consumers paid over sixteen point four billion in

52:17 Speaker 10: mandatory fees on ticket purchases from Ticketmaster unquote. That's from

52:22 Speaker 10: the complaint. The lawsuit is separate from the anti trust

52:27 Speaker 10: action which I think we talked about on the show

52:29 Speaker 10: before that the US Department of Justice launched against Ticketmaster

52:33 Speaker 10: and Live Nation in May of twenty twenty four. That

52:36 Speaker 10: lawsuit alleges that the company engaged in quote monopolization and

52:41 Speaker 10: other unlawful conduct that thwarts competition in markets across the

52:44 Speaker 10: live entertainment industry unquote. The DOJ lawsuit is seeking to

52:49 Speaker 10: break up Live Nation and Ticketmaster, undoing a year's old

52:52 Speaker 10: agreement that allowed the two to merge despite concerns over

52:55 Speaker 10: the company potentially employing monopoly power in the live entertainment business.

53:00 Speaker 10: Has accused Live Nation of violating the terms of that agreement.

53:04 Speaker 10: In its lawsuit, The FTC says Live Nation slash ticket

53:07 Speaker 10: Master controls quote roughly eighty percent or more of major

53:12 Speaker 10: concert venues, primary ticketing for concerts and a growing share

53:16 Speaker 10: of ticket resales in the secondary market unquote. As of

53:20 Speaker 10: noon on Thursday, Live Nation shares were down three point

53:23 Speaker 10: six percent on the New York Stock Exchange. Trending at

53:26 Speaker 10: around one hundred and sixty three dollars per year. So

53:29 Speaker 10: there you go. So that's the newest. And you know, look,

53:35 Speaker 10: I'm a I'm a free market capitalist, and I think

53:39 Speaker 10: that you know, I'm not into, you know, the idea

53:43 Speaker 10: of the government coming in and controlling pricing for concert tickets, certainly,

53:48 Speaker 10: but I'm also not in favor of you know, these

53:53 Speaker 10: companies being able to blatantly violate the law bet and

53:56 Speaker 10: Slitz baton switch, which is illegal obviously. And look, I mean,

54:01 Speaker 10: even if even if you're someone who takes the position

54:05 Speaker 10: that if you're if you're a true free market I mean,

54:08 Speaker 10: I say free market capitalist, but I say that loosely

54:11 Speaker 10: because I do believe that government has to regulate some things,

54:15 Speaker 10: not to not to get in political because we don't

54:16 Speaker 10: do that on this version of the show. But even

54:18 Speaker 10: if you're someone who thinks that all this is fine,

54:22 Speaker 10: because you don't think that the government should have anything

54:25 Speaker 10: to say about it, legally or otherwise, and the FTC

54:27 Speaker 10: shouldn't be getting into this. Even if you think that,

54:30 Speaker 10: don't you at least want to know as a consumer,

54:32 Speaker 10: don't you want to know why ticket prices are so

54:36 Speaker 10: I just as a consumer, isn't it good to be

54:38 Speaker 10: informed about it?

54:39 Speaker 16: But in the very least, shouldn't I think there's law

54:44 Speaker 16: involved in the fact that they shouldn't be able to

54:47 Speaker 16: violate their own rules, right, like you're not.

54:50 Speaker 10: The whole point of.

54:51 Speaker 16: Having these laws that you can't buy X number of

54:53 Speaker 16: tickets is to stop scalping, is to stop people getting

54:57 Speaker 16: ripped off. But if they make the rules and then

55:00 Speaker 16: they're sending it, selling it to themselves, right, and then

55:03 Speaker 16: selling it to you. Yeah, this whole triple dip thing,

55:06 Speaker 16: I yeah, that's criminal. In my mind's eye, that's criminal.

55:11 Speaker 10: Well, there won't be any criminal penalties, I'm sure, but

55:13 Speaker 10: there might be fines. But I mean Ticketmaster that that's

55:17 Speaker 10: the other thing.

55:17 Speaker 16: In the very least they should have to be it

55:19 Speaker 16: should at least be held accountable to their own rules

55:22 Speaker 16: and regulation.

55:22 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely so, so that's the newest wrinkle with that.

55:27 Speaker 16: Remember where else can you get a ticket? It's they

55:30 Speaker 16: have a monopoly on the market, right, It's it's very

55:32 Speaker 16: hard to get tickets to venues outside of.

55:35 Speaker 10: Them, of course, of course, and it is a monopoly

55:38 Speaker 10: absolutely all right, So we're going to close out this

55:41 Speaker 10: hour with one more track from Matt Axxton, who again

55:43 Speaker 10: is going to be at the Rex Theater on September

55:45 Speaker 10: twenty fourth. We're gonna play this great song called Blue

55:48 Speaker 10: Sky Rain, and then we're going to show some love

55:49 Speaker 10: to our amazing sponsors. And then if you are listening

55:52 Speaker 10: live in the in the third hour, if you're listening

55:55 Speaker 10: live on Saturday in the third hour, we've got Lydia

55:58 Speaker 10: ready coming up. She was on the show fairly recently,

56:00 Speaker 10: but she's got a brand new single called The Way

56:02 Speaker 10: We're Rolling, which I really like, so looking forward to

56:04 Speaker 10: having her back. She's gonna be joining us to be

56:06 Speaker 10: a Microsoft teams all the way from the UK. But

56:09 Speaker 10: in the meantime, check this out again. This is another

56:11 Speaker 10: great track from Matt Accent. This is called Blue Sky Rain.

56:43 Speaker 17: There's a blue scary rolling over the plane. There's a

56:51 Speaker 17: blue scary rolling over the plane.

56:59 Speaker 1: Man, my good night, see it coming.

57:08 Speaker 18: It was two sticks when she say I can love

57:13 Speaker 18: you any more? One chance is all I need. Come on,

57:21 Speaker 18: one more, baby, please. I wouldn't never before get you,

57:29 Speaker 18: no matter what I go through, because at one time

57:37 Speaker 18: you were the stars and my sky, blue sky.

57:44 Speaker 17: Ray rolling over the plane, it's a blue sky rolling

57:55 Speaker 17: over the plane, and I good.

57:59 Speaker 1: Now, UH see it coming. It was a big, shall

58:08 Speaker 1: perpeted romance. It was a quick version of the slow

58:13 Speaker 1: down unique the colors. But the picture, okay, I know

58:19 Speaker 1: where I should be a baby. It's nice as a

58:25 Speaker 1: skyy rolling over the plane. There's a blue sky rolling

58:37 Speaker 1: over the plane.

58:40 Speaker 15: I could not see it coming, and I say, carrying

58:52 Speaker 15: me down. So well, nobody will ever.

59:02 Speaker 12: Tell man, watch your man when you're said, I will

59:08 Speaker 12: never let you go, never let you go.

59:16 Speaker 1: I never let you go. I never let you go.

59:27 Speaker 1: I never let you go. Well, I have yet to

59:40 Speaker 1: be a woman who does not play with the strings

59:44 Speaker 1: of my heart.

59:46 Speaker 18: I wish it was not so easy about the peace

59:51 Speaker 18: and and folleyball.

59:54 Speaker 1: But there's a flood. Guy,