Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-20-25 hour 3

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6:06 Speaker 4: The way you were rolling.

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7:07 Speaker 5: This is just the way.

7:14 Speaker 15: This is just the late, this is just the place.

7:33 Speaker 9: That is the way we're rolling. Lydia ready who we're

7:36 Speaker 9: going to be speaking with in just a moment, as

7:38 Speaker 9: she makes her return to the show from across the pond,

7:41 Speaker 9: Welcome everybody. We have entered our number three New Marrow

7:44 Speaker 9: trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed And for those of you

7:47 Speaker 9: listening live today is Saturday, September twentieth, twenty twenty five.

7:52 Speaker 9: We are live from the studios of w m n

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8:06 Speaker 9: et cetera, et cetera. Jenny is here, of course, at

8:09 Speaker 9: the news table, and let's bring her in right now.

8:13 Speaker 9: She is with us via Microsoft Teams Lydia Ready, Hello.

8:17 Speaker 16: Lydia, Hey everyone, how's it going?

8:20 Speaker 11: Good?

8:21 Speaker 9: Good, welcome back. It's great to speak with you. You know,

8:25 Speaker 9: we uh we talked recently your your first single, Turned

8:28 Speaker 9: This Town Around, which we love, and then uh, and

8:30 Speaker 9: then we received this uh, The Way We're Rolling, which

8:33 Speaker 9: I think we played was it a week or two

8:35 Speaker 9: or a couple of weeks ago? Actually the American radio

8:37 Speaker 9: premiere of that, another great great track from you. I

8:40 Speaker 9: really like this a lot and absolutely, and so let's

8:44 Speaker 9: get into it. What what is this song about? I mean,

8:47 Speaker 9: I know what I took from it, but but tell us, uh,

8:51 Speaker 9: in your own words, what what is the meaning of

8:53 Speaker 9: this song? The Way We're Rolling?

8:56 Speaker 16: This song is.

8:57 Speaker 17: About just being completely yourself and loving yourself for who

8:59 Speaker 17: you are and live in each other.

9:02 Speaker 9: And I think what I got from it too, it

9:04 Speaker 9: was also there's a strong message. I think they're about

9:07 Speaker 9: acceptance and h and not. You know, a lot of

9:12 Speaker 9: people and in are current not to get into this

9:16 Speaker 9: part of it, really, but you know, just in America,

9:20 Speaker 9: and I'm sure you see it from over there. Uh,

9:22 Speaker 9: you know, there's there's a lot of attension, a lot

9:25 Speaker 9: of people who have problems with other people who are

9:28 Speaker 9: different from them. And unfortunately that's always a facet of

9:31 Speaker 9: American life to some degree, it seems like right now

9:33 Speaker 9: it's it's gotten pretty dicey. But and and so sometimes

9:40 Speaker 9: I don't I don't know if they use the term

9:42 Speaker 9: there when talking about this, but in America people like

9:45 Speaker 9: to use the word tolerance or you know, you have

9:48 Speaker 9: to you have to tolerate people who are different. And

9:50 Speaker 9: I've never liked the word tolerance. I prefer the word

9:53 Speaker 9: acceptance because tolerance to me kind of sounds like, oh,

9:57 Speaker 9: you know, I don't really like people who are different

9:58 Speaker 9: from me, but I guess I can talk tolerate them.

10:01 Speaker 9: You know, I've always preferred the word acceptance. And that's

10:04 Speaker 9: when when I listen to that song, that's what I

10:08 Speaker 9: get from that song. But it's really about acceptance because

10:11 Speaker 9: we should we should celebrate our distance, our differences, not

10:14 Speaker 9: be uh, you know, not be fearful because of them,

10:18 Speaker 9: and and not to ostracize people because of them or

10:21 Speaker 9: other wise people. But but we should accept them. And

10:25 Speaker 9: that's that's kind of what I what I got from that,

10:27 Speaker 9: and and a sense of acceptance and solidarity. Am I?

10:31 Speaker 9: Am I right about that? Or am I reading too

10:33 Speaker 9: much into it?

10:34 Speaker 3: Or what?

10:34 Speaker 9: Say you?

10:36 Speaker 16: No, You're absolutely correct.

10:39 Speaker 4: It is.

10:39 Speaker 17: It is a little bit deeper than just like loving yourself.

10:41 Speaker 17: It is about like all that kind of stuff. There

10:44 Speaker 17: is a lot of hate in the world at the moment,

10:47 Speaker 17: in probably all areas of the world.

10:49 Speaker 16: And I was I'm just sick of it.

10:51 Speaker 17: I was like, you know what, if a few people

10:53 Speaker 17: can hear a song and start accepting some other people,

10:56 Speaker 17: then my job's done.

10:58 Speaker 9: Like I'm happy, right right.

11:00 Speaker 4: Yeah.

11:01 Speaker 9: What's interesting too, is because you know, yeah, there is

11:04 Speaker 9: a little bit of a deeper meaning. And and when

11:06 Speaker 9: we talked about turn this Town around, we we had

11:10 Speaker 9: kind of a similar discussion in the sense that and

11:12 Speaker 9: by the way, we're gonna play that track again too.

11:13 Speaker 9: We're gonna play that one at the end of our

11:15 Speaker 9: conversation because I love I still love that song too.

11:17 Speaker 9: But what's so interesting about that song to me is.

11:21 Speaker 9: You know, if you're just listening to it sort of casually,

11:24 Speaker 9: not necessarily paying close attention to the lyrics, it just

11:27 Speaker 9: sounds like a catchy, fun song, almost like you know,

11:30 Speaker 9: you're you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, uh, you know,

11:33 Speaker 9: really make your mark in this town, this whatever town

11:35 Speaker 9: it is you're referring to in the song, and you know,

11:37 Speaker 9: there's it's got a certain anthemic quality to it, But

11:41 Speaker 9: it's only if you really pay attention to the lyrics

11:43 Speaker 9: that you realize that there's something deeper going on. There's

11:46 Speaker 9: a deeper meaning, and you're expressing concerns that maybe other

11:50 Speaker 9: people don't have but should have, you know, things that

11:53 Speaker 9: we should all be be concerned about and worried about.

11:55 Speaker 9: So underneath that that sort of that catchy, fun vibe,

11:59 Speaker 9: there's a there's a real serious message there. And I'm

12:02 Speaker 9: noticing with both of these songs, that's kind of the

12:06 Speaker 9: through line between them, Right, they're both catchy and fun,

12:10 Speaker 9: but if you're paying attention, if you're paying attention to

12:13 Speaker 9: the lyrics, there's some very important messaging underneath that.

12:18 Speaker 16: Yeah, that's definitely what I've been trying to do.

12:20 Speaker 17: I feel a lot of the time, if you have

12:23 Speaker 17: kind of a serious message and partner it with serious,

12:26 Speaker 17: gloomy music, people might just skip on. But if you

12:29 Speaker 17: can't put this serious message with some a bit more

12:32 Speaker 17: catchy and up be it'll make people hopefully like, want

12:36 Speaker 17: to keep listening to it and then because of that

12:38 Speaker 17: understand the lyrics and the meaning behind it.

12:41 Speaker 9: Mm hmmmm. Is that important to you as an artist,

12:45 Speaker 9: because I mean, I'm sure that you know if you

12:48 Speaker 9: wanted to, and maybe you will in the future, maybe

12:50 Speaker 9: maybe you'll have a song that that really is just

12:52 Speaker 9: kind of catchy and fun and it's and that's all

12:54 Speaker 9: it is. It's just like a catchy, fun sing along

12:57 Speaker 9: anthem or something. But is it is it really like,

13:00 Speaker 9: is it something that you do deliberately when you write

13:03 Speaker 9: these songs, you deliberately and intentionally put something serious underneath.

13:09 Speaker 9: Is that important to you as an artist?

13:11 Speaker 16: Yeah, it definitely is.

13:13 Speaker 17: I've got quite a mixed obviously, not the ones that

13:15 Speaker 17: are out now, but I've got some coming out that

13:17 Speaker 17: are just kind of fun, catchy. I've got one called

13:21 Speaker 17: X Business, which is just about like saying screw you

13:24 Speaker 17: to your X pretty much, and a few like that.

13:26 Speaker 17: But then I've also got these two and then my

13:30 Speaker 17: next song that's coming out that's called look at Me Now,

13:32 Speaker 17: And it's not quite as on a big scale as

13:36 Speaker 17: in it's more involving acceptance as a world. It's more

13:41 Speaker 17: like when people try and put you down, but your

13:43 Speaker 17: rise up and you're like, look at me now, I'm

13:45 Speaker 17: better than ever. That kind of vibe, and that's going

13:49 Speaker 17: to be a bit rockier. But I think for especially

13:51 Speaker 17: this first EP that I'm releasing my whole theme as

13:54 Speaker 17: I want there to be these big messages within these

13:57 Speaker 17: catchy melodies.

13:58 Speaker 16: The second EP is where it's gonna go a little

14:00 Speaker 16: bit more fun.

14:02 Speaker 9: Okay, so let's talk about that. So the trajectory so

14:06 Speaker 9: you have so you have an e P?

14:08 Speaker 4: Is the EP?

14:10 Speaker 9: Uh finished? The first one?

14:12 Speaker 16: I finished recording them, but they're not out yet. I've

14:14 Speaker 16: only released the first two.

14:16 Speaker 9: Yet now, okay, so but the EP has done. So

14:19 Speaker 9: then what's what's kind of the Do you have an

14:21 Speaker 9: ETA on when the EP will be out?

14:25 Speaker 17: So I'm thinking, let me ever think, yeah, it will

14:29 Speaker 17: be out a little bit, probably early April, late March

14:35 Speaker 17: around that time.

14:36 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, interesting? And then what is it? Five tracks?

14:40 Speaker 9: Six tracks. Yeah it is, it's five five five Okay,

14:43 Speaker 9: very good, very good. It's it's so interesting, how you know,

14:47 Speaker 9: there's so many different ways to release music now in

14:49 Speaker 9: terms of you know, you could put out an EP

14:51 Speaker 9: and then singles, or put out singles and then they

14:53 Speaker 9: coalesce into an EP or or you know, however you

14:56 Speaker 9: choose to do it. There's there's really uh limitless options.

15:00 Speaker 9: But I think the I think these first two are

15:02 Speaker 9: really strong. And then so will there be a third

15:05 Speaker 9: single before the EP or or will you or is

15:09 Speaker 9: the EP the next thing that's coming out or do

15:11 Speaker 9: you know yet?

15:13 Speaker 17: Yeah, so there's going to be another single. It hasn't

15:15 Speaker 17: been announced yet, but it's gonna be in around two.

15:18 Speaker 9: Months time, okay.

15:19 Speaker 16: And that's look at me now that I was just

15:21 Speaker 16: talking about.

15:21 Speaker 17: Okay, and then we thought we want to wait until

15:25 Speaker 17: after Christmas because I think it gets a bit too

15:27 Speaker 17: busy then for people to bother about new music.

15:30 Speaker 16: So probably January ish. I was well wrong when I

15:33 Speaker 16: said April January ish.

15:35 Speaker 17: Okay, I'm gonna we're gonna put out like the whole

15:38 Speaker 17: EPA with the last two songs.

15:41 Speaker 9: Okay, excellent, and then so but you're already talking about

15:44 Speaker 9: the next EP too. You you mentioned the next one,

15:47 Speaker 9: So what's what's your plan for the next one? Is

15:49 Speaker 9: the next one? Because I think you said the next

15:51 Speaker 9: EP that you do is gonna be a little bit different.

15:55 Speaker 17: Yeah, So the next one is like a concept EP,

15:58 Speaker 17: so it's all about kind of this relationship journey. So

16:04 Speaker 17: the first song on it is called why Do I

16:07 Speaker 17: Like You? And it's all about liking this bad boy

16:09 Speaker 17: and not wanting.

16:10 Speaker 16: To but you can't help it. That's the very poppy song,

16:14 Speaker 16: quite Cynthie.

16:15 Speaker 17: Then you've got one called real Life, which is one

16:18 Speaker 17: of my rocky tracks, and that's about you're with this

16:21 Speaker 17: bad boy but you don't like.

16:23 Speaker 16: It anymore, you want to get out.

16:26 Speaker 17: Then you've got track three, which is called Sorry. At

16:29 Speaker 17: this point you've broken up and he's trying to get

16:31 Speaker 17: you back and you're saying sorry, but it's not going

16:36 Speaker 17: to happen. Then you've got exp Business, which is a

16:41 Speaker 17: very upbeat one. It's quite jazzy, and that one is

16:45 Speaker 17: very similar to Sorry in the theme, but this time

16:48 Speaker 17: you're with a new boyfriend and you're saying go away,

16:50 Speaker 17: stop bothering me. And then the final song on that one.

16:53 Speaker 17: I'm currently writing it, and that's going to be you're

16:55 Speaker 17: with your new boyfriend and you're really happy.

16:57 Speaker 9: Oh okay, well so I was happy. I mean, no,

16:59 Speaker 9: that's cool. So you've got a whole you've got a

17:01 Speaker 9: whole story planned out. That's uh, that's excellent. That's excellent. Yeah. Yeah,

17:06 Speaker 9: And you're thinking ahead, you're thinking long term, which is cool.

17:09 Speaker 9: And I think we might have talked about this too

17:10 Speaker 9: that before when you were on the show, because you know,

17:13 Speaker 9: a lot of times a lot of artists, you know,

17:15 Speaker 9: especially when they're when they're young in their career, you know,

17:18 Speaker 9: they they just kind of throw a lot of stuff

17:21 Speaker 9: against the wall and see what sticks. And there's nothing

17:23 Speaker 9: wrong with doing that because sometimes sometimes that's your only

17:26 Speaker 9: option if you if you're if you don't have a

17:28 Speaker 9: long term plan, you don't have a plan, and sometimes

17:31 Speaker 9: figuring out a plan is just trying different things and

17:33 Speaker 9: seeing what works. But you've really got a thought out plan,

17:36 Speaker 9: and uh, and I think that's I think that's great.

17:39 Speaker 9: Is that important to you to have a sense of

17:41 Speaker 9: certainty about where you're going and what you're doing and

17:45 Speaker 9: how you're going to approach this? Is that important to

17:48 Speaker 9: you as an artist.

17:50 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's.

17:51 Speaker 17: It's definitely very important because especially I've seen my brother

17:55 Speaker 17: is three years older than me, and he's been doing

17:56 Speaker 17: music since he was forty and he's twenty now, so

18:00 Speaker 17: I've seen him do everything, and I know how important

18:02 Speaker 17: it is to have these release plans and knowing exactly

18:05 Speaker 17: what's happening when in order to try and be successful.

18:09 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. I remember you mentioning your brother too.

18:12 Speaker 9: Does he refresh my memory now? And of course newer

18:15 Speaker 9: listeners who might not have heard our previous conversation. Is

18:17 Speaker 9: he involved in the production of your music?

18:21 Speaker 16: So he is in a few of the songs.

18:22 Speaker 17: Yeah, I've got a mix of him and three of

18:26 Speaker 17: my mates from college who all play different guitar and

18:28 Speaker 17: bass parts, because I write the songs and I can

18:32 Speaker 17: kind of just about play a bit of guitar and piano,

18:34 Speaker 17: but I'm not very good at it, so I get

18:36 Speaker 17: them to play it when I'm recording them.

18:38 Speaker 9: Okay, gotcha? Gotcha? And what happens in terms of live

18:42 Speaker 9: do you do you play these out? Have you performed

18:45 Speaker 9: any of these songs live?

18:48 Speaker 17: So generally, when I've been performing my songs live. My

18:51 Speaker 17: brother's been around and he's played the songs in the background.

18:54 Speaker 9: Cool.

18:54 Speaker 17: But now as I'm recording the songs, I'm actually getting

18:58 Speaker 17: back in tracks for.

18:59 Speaker 16: Them as well.

19:00 Speaker 17: I just hit my vocals off, so I'm nearly at

19:02 Speaker 17: the point where I could do a full set.

19:03 Speaker 16: We just back in tracks.

19:06 Speaker 17: But behind the scenes, which is all top secret, I'm

19:09 Speaker 17: actually rehearsing with the band of Summer, my mates from college,

19:13 Speaker 17: and we're putting together a show for my eighteenth birthday

19:17 Speaker 17: next year in April. But it's all very secret we're doing.

19:21 Speaker 17: I'm going to release it in December. The tickets.

19:24 Speaker 9: Oh oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah, So I don't

19:28 Speaker 9: know how much more you can say about it, but

19:30 Speaker 9: I all right, well I'll ask you the question, and

19:34 Speaker 9: if you don't want to answer, I'll respect that. But

19:36 Speaker 9: but but are you planning to play the full EP?

19:39 Speaker 4: I am?

19:40 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, both EPs? Okay, awesome? Oh, very cool, very cool.

19:46 Speaker 9: All right, we'll have to have you back on before

19:48 Speaker 9: that happens, so we can we can get the update

19:50 Speaker 9: or if it's still a secret at that point, we'll

19:52 Speaker 9: see what more information we can get out of you.

19:54 Speaker 16: But two singles time and it'll all be out there.

19:58 Speaker 9: Well, we got to have when the next thing comes

20:00 Speaker 9: out too, we'll have to have you back on for

20:01 Speaker 9: that too, because you know, we're we're fans. We like

20:04 Speaker 9: what you're doing. So now, and so your brother, and

20:09 Speaker 9: tell me again, is he does he have a band currently?

20:12 Speaker 16: He doesn't currently have about it?

20:14 Speaker 5: No?

20:14 Speaker 9: No, okay, okay, because I remember you talking a little

20:17 Speaker 9: bit about him too. Did you come from a musical family? Like,

20:20 Speaker 9: are your parents also musicians?

20:23 Speaker 16: Not all, but they love music.

20:25 Speaker 17: They've like blasted music in the house all the time

20:28 Speaker 17: since I was tiny, and my grandma is a singer,

20:32 Speaker 17: so we think he might have come from my grandma.

20:34 Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, also to just having obviously if they're if

20:38 Speaker 9: your parents, even if they're not musicians, but if they're

20:40 Speaker 9: very into music, I'm sure they're very supportive of what

20:42 Speaker 9: you're doing and that that can make a huge difference,

20:45 Speaker 9: you know, especially when you're starting out in your career,

20:47 Speaker 9: you know, having a family that really supports you and

20:49 Speaker 9: is uh, you know, encouraging you, you know, because sometimes

20:53 Speaker 9: you know, some some families don't necessarily encourage their kids.

20:56 Speaker 9: You know, they'll say, they'll say, oh, what do you

20:59 Speaker 9: want to do this. You know, you should be more

21:01 Speaker 9: focused on whatever it is they think you should be doing.

21:05 Speaker 9: But you know, and they might not take it seriously.

21:07 Speaker 9: You know, we've all heard those stories of you know,

21:09 Speaker 9: the parents who were like, don't, don't, don't, don't do that,

21:12 Speaker 9: don't play in a band, don't make music. You know,

21:14 Speaker 9: just focus on school, focus on whatever. But I think

21:17 Speaker 9: if I remember correctly, though, are you in school now?

21:19 Speaker 9: Are you in college?

21:21 Speaker 5: Yeah?

21:21 Speaker 17: I'm in college, so over here that's ages sixteen to eighteen, okay,

21:26 Speaker 17: And I'm.

21:27 Speaker 16: Doing these things called A levels.

21:28 Speaker 17: I'm not sure if you know about them, but pretty

21:32 Speaker 17: much I've got to get through them under B tech.

21:34 Speaker 16: It's all sounded very confusing, but I've got to get

21:37 Speaker 16: through a.

21:37 Speaker 17: Few tests at the end of next year, so it'll

21:40 Speaker 17: be summer next year, and then I'm hoping to go

21:43 Speaker 17: to university, which is you do three years in UNI

21:46 Speaker 17: and then you can hopefully get this fantasy certificate and

21:50 Speaker 17: get a job.

21:51 Speaker 9: Do you know yet? And I only ask because you know,

21:55 Speaker 9: I know you're a long term planner, Like, do you

21:58 Speaker 9: plan to study music when you go to Universe?

22:01 Speaker 13: No?

22:01 Speaker 16: I don't. I'm planning to do market in and digital advertizing.

22:06 Speaker 9: Well, that's also very useful in the music industry certainly,

22:10 Speaker 9: so you know, so it sounds like I mean, actually

22:12 Speaker 9: that might even be more helpful to you in terms

22:15 Speaker 9: of your music career, you know, than you know, studying

22:19 Speaker 9: a lot of music theory and all that, like, you know,

22:22 Speaker 9: learning the marketing, especially, you know, in the era that

22:24 Speaker 9: we live in where you know, I'm old enough to

22:27 Speaker 9: remember when it was you know, a pre inter Yeah,

22:30 Speaker 9: I'm Generation X, you know, I'm the last generation to

22:32 Speaker 9: grow up without the Internet. So I've seen everything change

22:35 Speaker 9: so much, and I think it's more important and beneficial

22:38 Speaker 9: now than ever to really understand marketing as an artist,

22:43 Speaker 9: because it's not like when you know, you get signed

22:46 Speaker 9: to a label and they just do everything for you

22:48 Speaker 9: and all you have to worry about is show up

22:50 Speaker 9: and play and record or whatever.

22:51 Speaker 4: It is.

22:52 Speaker 9: Like now, the more control that you can have over

22:56 Speaker 9: your own marketing and distribution and social media all of it.

23:00 Speaker 9: The more control that you can have, I think, the

23:04 Speaker 9: better off you are long term. And like I said,

23:06 Speaker 9: you know, you're obviously a long term planner, so so

23:10 Speaker 9: I think that's a great direction for you to go. Actually,

23:12 Speaker 9: I think I think that'll be very very useful to you,

23:14 Speaker 9: you know, and and something to fall back on too.

23:16 Speaker 9: That gives you, you know, you'll be able to, you know,

23:19 Speaker 9: get a job anywhere you want really with with that

23:21 Speaker 9: kind of background. So I think that's great.

23:24 Speaker 16: There's so many jobs in that industry that I can

23:27 Speaker 16: go into.

23:28 Speaker 17: And then I think on the side, probably Friday Saturday evenings,

23:30 Speaker 17: I've got to pubs and do gigs there, so I'd

23:32 Speaker 17: still always have music.

23:34 Speaker 9: There you go, Yeah, there you go. Absolutely, I think

23:36 Speaker 9: that's a great I think that's a great direction to go. Well, Lydia.

23:39 Speaker 9: We appreciate you joining us again. Love the new single,

23:43 Speaker 9: and in a moment we're going to play turn this

23:45 Speaker 9: Town Around and we'll kind of we'll cap off the

23:47 Speaker 9: segment with that. But I want to make sure our

23:51 Speaker 9: listeners know where should they go online to keep up

23:53 Speaker 9: with everything that you're doing. Where's the best place to

23:55 Speaker 9: go online?

23:57 Speaker 17: So mostly on Instagram under do you ready music ready

24:01 Speaker 17: spelled R E D D.

24:03 Speaker 16: Why that's on Instagram.

24:05 Speaker 17: But I do also have a Facebook account, but that's

24:07 Speaker 17: private at the moment because it won't let me change

24:10 Speaker 17: it until I'm eighteen, and it's the same with my

24:12 Speaker 17: TikTok account, but I can accept people to go onto.

24:14 Speaker 9: Those Oh okay, okay, excellent.

24:17 Speaker 16: Well yeah, my Instagram's fully public.

24:19 Speaker 9: Lindia Ady Music okay, okay, very good. And before we

24:23 Speaker 9: let you go on, before we play this track, remind

24:25 Speaker 9: us again again for listeners who might not have heard

24:27 Speaker 9: our previous conversation about turn this town around? What what

24:30 Speaker 9: are you? What are you expressing with this song? I'll

24:33 Speaker 9: let you. I mean I kind of talked about it,

24:34 Speaker 9: but in your own words, what are you? What are

24:36 Speaker 9: you addressing with this?

24:39 Speaker 17: So this song, let's put it in easy terms, just

24:43 Speaker 17: kind of like looking after the world and looking after

24:45 Speaker 17: each other as much as you can do.

24:48 Speaker 9: Yep, yep, no, perfectly said. Absolutely well, Lydia. Ready, thank

24:52 Speaker 9: you so much. Always wonderful to talk with you. I

24:55 Speaker 9: look forward to I look forward to the next single

24:57 Speaker 9: and hopefully we can give it the americ Can Radio

25:00 Speaker 9: premiere here on this side of the pond when it's ready.

25:03 Speaker 9: So look forward to speaking to you again. And we're

25:07 Speaker 9: gonna hit it. We're gonna hit this track. We'll let

25:08 Speaker 9: you go for now. But thanks Lydia, great, thank you. Seeleia,

25:12 Speaker 9: you got it bye bye, all right. That is Lydia Ready,

25:16 Speaker 9: and if you missed it, we played at the beginning

25:18 Speaker 9: of our conversation her newest single, The Way We're Rolling,

25:22 Speaker 9: which is which is great, but we might we might

25:24 Speaker 9: sneak it in again at the end of the show

25:26 Speaker 9: today because I really do like that song very much.

25:27 Speaker 9: But we're also gonna play this to end our conversation

25:30 Speaker 9: and then Jenny and I will be back on the

25:32 Speaker 9: other side of this with uh, We've got another very

25:35 Speaker 9: interesting music industry news story to share with you. But

25:38 Speaker 9: here it is. This is Turned This Town Around. This

25:40 Speaker 9: is the first single and by the way, we were

25:42 Speaker 9: the first American radio station to play this from Lydia Ready.

25:55 Speaker 10: What's that sound? What's that sounded?

25:58 Speaker 13: Home?

25:58 Speaker 5: A bunstn mixie scream and shout Hannah, turn this town around?

26:05 Speaker 10: Stop and look this way.

26:08 Speaker 5: I made some insufficients. What I see is what I say.

26:10 Speaker 5: And this here's a travesty. The earth are trying to

26:13 Speaker 5: now and you don't see the tragedy. It's all blurring

26:17 Speaker 5: all it's one and die sup blinded. We think it's typical,

26:22 Speaker 5: but that's just cause we's so shallow.

26:24 Speaker 10: My dad, what that sound? What set sound?

26:27 Speaker 5: Get out of my way or burns down, Mixie and

26:31 Speaker 5: scream and shout, and I turn.

26:33 Speaker 7: This town around.

26:35 Speaker 10: Pee everywhere.

26:38 Speaker 5: If your parts and nurture and to care for this

26:41 Speaker 5: world of us, I believe the earth will no longer

26:44 Speaker 5: fall upont we can glue it all back tog and

26:52 Speaker 5: find a piece of less forever.

26:55 Speaker 16: What that sounds?

26:57 Speaker 5: Sound my way or burns down? Maxie in scream and show,

27:02 Speaker 5: pan out, turn this town round?

27:05 Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

27:07 Speaker 8: And get out my way of burns down?

27:10 Speaker 7: Pxie and scream.

27:11 Speaker 5: And shower, pan out on the town around.

27:19 Speaker 10: What's it town?

27:22 Speaker 5: That's just because you.

27:23 Speaker 10: Turn this town round? What's it sound?

27:33 Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

27:36 Speaker 4: Get out a way of burns down.

27:38 Speaker 5: Baxie and scream and shower, and I'll turn this town around.

27:43 Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

27:45 Speaker 11: Get out my way of burns down, Makesie in scream

27:49 Speaker 11: and shout, and alto on this town round.

28:04 Speaker 9: That is Lydia ready, turn this town around. And this

28:08 Speaker 9: is Matt Connorton unleashed and we are alive. From the

28:10 Speaker 9: studios of WM and H ninety five point three FM

28:13 Speaker 9: and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and thank you again to

28:16 Speaker 9: Lydia for joining us today. And we did feature earlier. Yeah,

28:19 Speaker 9: we played the way we're rolling her newest single earlier

28:22 Speaker 9: in the show. We might we might cap off today's

28:24 Speaker 9: show with that one more time. We'll see, we'll see

28:26 Speaker 9: how how the rest of the hour goes. But uh,

28:28 Speaker 9: if you are joining us live on Saturday. Today is

28:32 Speaker 9: September twentieth, twenty twenty five, and we've got actually, Jenny

28:36 Speaker 9: found a couple of interesting music industry stories. But this

28:40 Speaker 9: is from Billboard dot com. This this just happened. And

28:44 Speaker 9: this also relates to a subject that we've discussed many

28:47 Speaker 9: times on the show. Klan like this Klanie slams Ai

28:51 Speaker 9: artist Zania or Zannia Moneta. It's x A N I

28:56 Speaker 9: A So I guess that's Zania Zannia Monet getting a

29:00 Speaker 9: three million dollar record deal. This is so beyond out

29:05 Speaker 9: of control, the musician told fans. Now, I don't know

29:07 Speaker 9: anything about this. This is the first time hearing about

29:09 Speaker 9: this is I didn't think there there even was such

29:11 Speaker 9: a thing as a three million dollar record deal anymore.

29:14 Speaker 9: I didn't I thought that was a thing of the past.

29:17 Speaker 9: But so I don't understand. Let's we'll go through this

29:19 Speaker 9: here again. This is from billboard dot Com. A few

29:22 Speaker 9: days ago, Billboard broke the news that an AI generated artist,

29:27 Speaker 9: Zania Monet, had signed a multimillion dollar record deal after

29:32 Speaker 9: meeting with multiple labels.

29:35 Speaker 4: This sounds very they thought over this person. It sounds like, yeah,

29:39 Speaker 4: but not person. It's not a person.

29:41 Speaker 9: And by the way, but even that's one thing about

29:44 Speaker 9: this is so strange. But the other thing that's so

29:46 Speaker 9: strange to me is a story about a new artist

29:49 Speaker 9: having multiple meetings with various labels to and this bidding

29:53 Speaker 9: war that that that sounds like something from thirty years ago.

29:56 Speaker 9: That doesn't sound like something that even happens in twenty

29:59 Speaker 9: twenty five. So that part's also strange to me. Everything

30:02 Speaker 9: about this is weird. Are we in an alternate universe?

30:04 Speaker 4: An artist I use that term loosely, who did all

30:09 Speaker 4: of their music.

30:09 Speaker 9: With Sunio, Yeah, which is the app that we use Suno,

30:12 Speaker 9: which is the app that we use yea Yeah.

30:14 Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't know why I said I.

30:16 Speaker 9: Know why because the other, the other big one is Udio.

30:18 Speaker 9: So I think in your mind you created an amalgam

30:21 Speaker 9: of Suno and Udio and created Sudio. Yeah, I mean

30:24 Speaker 9: maybe maybe someday they'll merge and that'll be the new name.

30:27 Speaker 4: The creator is claiming the art. The lyrics are theirs, Yeah,

30:31 Speaker 4: but they use Suno to make the music. Yeah, so

30:35 Speaker 4: the music is obviously not theirs.

30:38 Speaker 9: Yeah, it says here. In a recent TikTok, the singer

30:40 Speaker 9: songwriter Kalani shared their thoughts on how Wood Media reportedly

30:46 Speaker 9: shelling out three million dollars to sign the fictive musician,

30:50 Speaker 9: whose quote persona is operated behind the scenes by writer

30:55 Speaker 9: Talisia Nicki Jones, despite copyright concerns previously by other major

31:01 Speaker 9: labels um so, A frustrated sounding Kilani told followers, without

31:08 Speaker 9: directly mentioning Monet or Jones, quote, there is an AI,

31:12 Speaker 9: R and B artist who just signed a multimillion dollar

31:15 Speaker 9: deal and the person is doing none of the work.

31:19 Speaker 9: This is so beyond out of control unquote.

31:22 Speaker 4: It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. They're using

31:24 Speaker 4: other people's music to create it. Suno uses everybody else's

31:28 Speaker 4: music to learn from. So if you're going there with

31:31 Speaker 4: your lyrics to quote make music, you're making music from

31:35 Speaker 4: other artists. Really it's not coming out of your brain,

31:39 Speaker 4: but artistry comes out of your brain.

31:42 Speaker 9: But I also don't understand the most like this. But

31:45 Speaker 9: the most mind benning thing to me about this is again,

31:47 Speaker 9: I don't like, why is somebody paying three million dollars

31:50 Speaker 9: for this?

31:50 Speaker 4: Because apparently these songs are going up the jar?

31:53 Speaker 9: But so what even even if they are, you don't

31:55 Speaker 9: pay in the year twenty twenty five, why would anyone

31:58 Speaker 9: pay three million dollars for to anybody for anything?

32:02 Speaker 4: Apparently this was a big deal. They had this big,

32:04 Speaker 4: giant zoom meeting with all the executives, and this is

32:06 Speaker 4: bizarre to close this deal with the person what was

32:12 Speaker 4: I I can't remember what that person's name is. Who

32:15 Speaker 4: created Zaniamneh who is not a human being?

32:19 Speaker 9: But what am I missing about? I mean, like, yeah,

32:22 Speaker 9: I mean, and I know the AI part is so

32:25 Speaker 9: stop heard, but I'm still stuck on the other part

32:27 Speaker 9: of this. Like, honestly, if you took this story and

32:31 Speaker 9: you took the AI part out of it, and you

32:33 Speaker 9: just told me there was this new artist named zaniamone

32:36 Speaker 9: who who had all these meetings and just got offered

32:39 Speaker 9: a three million dollar record deal, a brand new artists

32:42 Speaker 9: brand new artist. I've never even heard of it. Even

32:43 Speaker 9: if you took the AI part completely out of the story,

32:46 Speaker 9: I would still be sitting here going, what in the

32:48 Speaker 9: year five they're charting?

32:51 Speaker 4: That's why.

32:52 Speaker 9: But even that shouldn't matter.

32:54 Speaker 4: What greed talks buck up like this. They don't care.

32:58 Speaker 4: They can make a dollar, they'll do it. But how

33:00 Speaker 4: are they gonna make money? Like they're gonna make merch maybe?

33:05 Speaker 4: I guess where do they make money these days? It's downloads?

33:08 Speaker 4: Aren't the way nobody gets three? So what is in

33:13 Speaker 4: the deal though, Like, what exactly is in the deal?

33:16 Speaker 4: Obviously this artist can't go perform anywhere. There's no concerts

33:20 Speaker 4: for fictictional character unless they make a hologram.

33:24 Speaker 9: Well unless the author who created this character is going

33:26 Speaker 9: to do to do that, I don't know.

33:27 Speaker 4: Well if they were gonna do that, when they do

33:28 Speaker 4: that themselves to begin with, I'm assuming that they can't

33:33 Speaker 4: perform the way that their fake version can perform.

33:37 Speaker 9: I guess yeah, on a computer.

33:39 Speaker 4: It can't perform. Outside of a computer. You can't go

33:42 Speaker 4: to get tickets and go see them live unless it's

33:45 Speaker 4: a holograph. I don't think we Well, we got those

33:47 Speaker 4: in Vegas, but they're not everywhere yet.

33:49 Speaker 9: Well you can't though, I mean if if if if

33:51 Speaker 9: she can sing and.

33:53 Speaker 4: She's if you know she can sing, if I just

33:56 Speaker 4: hire if.

33:56 Speaker 9: You can hire a band to learn the songs, or

33:58 Speaker 9: you just play back in tracks or whatever.

34:00 Speaker 4: But that's not what they're saying. That's not what that.

34:02 Speaker 4: They didn't sign her, They signed the fictitional character. Yeah,

34:08 Speaker 4: so it's got to be like merch and stuff like that.

34:10 Speaker 9: Yes, that's a lot of money for I don't like it, really.

34:16 Speaker 4: I actually am kind of shocked by it all because

34:18 Speaker 4: I didn't think that the music industry will legitimize it

34:22 Speaker 4: in this way, and now that they have, I don't

34:28 Speaker 4: like it. I don't like it.

34:29 Speaker 9: I don't like it, assess. Here at the vocalist, Kilani

34:32 Speaker 9: went on emphasize the power of AI to create fully

34:35 Speaker 9: formed songs out of thin air, without users having to

34:38 Speaker 9: credit anyone involved in making the countless copyrighted works on

34:41 Speaker 9: which such generative music systems are trained to craft. Monet's music,

34:46 Speaker 9: Jones used Suna, which is the same app that we

34:49 Speaker 9: we full disclosure. We played with we played with it

34:52 Speaker 9: on the air, we did experiments, we we created tracks

34:55 Speaker 9: about me becoming victorious in my long running feud with

35:00 Speaker 9: MC hammer.

35:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying it's not fun to play with,

35:04 Speaker 4: but to reward it, to pay for it, to legitimize

35:09 Speaker 4: it in the music industry as a valid.

35:15 Speaker 9: I don't know.

35:16 Speaker 4: I've also there too, real Bless of Blood Humans.

35:20 Speaker 9: I've also used it full disclosure. I've used it to

35:22 Speaker 9: create theme music for a couple of podcasts, Tough Bumps

35:27 Speaker 9: and UH. And I even made a song for the

35:30 Speaker 9: The AF the podcast only version of this show, although

35:34 Speaker 9: I'm not really I kind of changed my mind about

35:37 Speaker 9: the song I chose but that I created with Suno.

35:39 Speaker 9: But anyway, it doesn't matter. But okay, So to craft

35:43 Speaker 9: Money's music, Jones used Suno, though her manager Rommel Murphy

35:48 Speaker 9: emphasized to Billboard that his client personally writes all the

35:51 Speaker 9: original lyrics that monet quote unquote.

35:55 Speaker 4: But not the music. And I argue that it's not

35:59 Speaker 4: with copyright infringement because every piece of music this thing

36:04 Speaker 4: used to create it, it learned from a human being.

36:08 Speaker 4: It didn't come out of thin air. It came out

36:10 Speaker 4: of a human mind that it stuck into a computer

36:13 Speaker 4: and spit this out right. So is that really not

36:16 Speaker 4: using somebody else's work, because I don't think it is.

36:19 Speaker 4: You're using everybody else's work to train it, and then

36:22 Speaker 4: it pulls from a thousand artists to make this song. Well,

36:26 Speaker 4: that's a thousand different artists' input that got into that song.

36:30 Speaker 4: It's not royalty free, y'all happy? Gee? Look at like.

36:34 Speaker 4: I don't like the way the article comes across. It's like, oh,

36:37 Speaker 4: this is all that section you read about it being

36:40 Speaker 4: like royalty free, and they can create that just I.

36:47 Speaker 9: Don't like it, it says here. Billboard has reached out

36:51 Speaker 9: to Jones's rep for comment. Kilani certainly isn't the only

36:55 Speaker 9: person in the industry with objections to Monet's deal. Sources

36:58 Speaker 9: previously told Billboard that several major labels had also been

37:02 Speaker 9: in talks with Jones, but ultimately walked away with respect

37:07 Speaker 9: to their collaborative copyright lawsuit against Suno last year. Yeah,

37:12 Speaker 9: there's a there's a lawsuit. The labels are suing Suno.

37:15 Speaker 4: That's what. So why are somebody signing this person.

37:19 Speaker 9: Well, the company signing them isn't involved in that lawsuit obviously,

37:22 Speaker 9: But but that's why I tell people too, because you know,

37:27 Speaker 9: we we use Suno. I use sun know for some stuff.

37:30 Speaker 9: If you are using these uh these these uh large

37:35 Speaker 9: learning models like sun enjoy it while you have it,

37:39 Speaker 9: because the sharks are circling just so you know. Okay,

37:43 Speaker 9: I don't know.

37:44 Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna I think that. I don't think.

37:46 Speaker 9: I don't think it's gonna go Yeah, oh I agree,

37:49 Speaker 9: but yeah. The basis of the lawsuit is that Suno

37:53 Speaker 9: allegedly infringed upon the copyright of the label's catalogs by

37:56 Speaker 9: using pre existing works to train its technology. The company

38:00 Speaker 9: disagrees with this characterization, arguing that its users are actually

38:04 Speaker 9: making entirely original works via fair use of the music

38:07 Speaker 9: in its database.

38:08 Speaker 4: Okay, but that's saying the same thing in a different sentence.

38:12 Speaker 4: You just said this fair use is a very loosely

38:16 Speaker 4: used term.

38:16 Speaker 9: In that sentence, I think, I think, well that's but

38:19 Speaker 9: well that's the argument that the company that signed er

38:21 Speaker 9: is making now there and so for people who don't know, so,

38:25 Speaker 9: fair use is when you're using someone else's material. But

38:29 Speaker 9: but but you're using it in a transformative.

38:31 Speaker 4: Way or educational way.

38:34 Speaker 9: So for example, if if you if you watch YouTube videos,

38:38 Speaker 9: you know, because people make reaction videos, especially you know

38:41 Speaker 9: in political uh uh YouTube. So for example, if you're

38:46 Speaker 9: commenting on on something on somebody else's video, you're using

38:50 Speaker 9: someone else's content and you're playing it and you're commenting

38:53 Speaker 9: on it as you do it. We had even recently

38:55 Speaker 9: discussed doing that with someone, but we decided not to

38:58 Speaker 9: because we don't want some and making angry phone calls

39:01 Speaker 9: to certain people. But that type of thing where you're

39:04 Speaker 9: using somebody else's content but you're commenting on it as

39:07 Speaker 9: you play it on your own channel, that's an example

39:09 Speaker 9: of fair use. The reason podcasters on YouTube are able

39:12 Speaker 9: to do that kind of thing is because it's transformative.

39:15 Speaker 9: They're taking they're using someone else's content to create their

39:18 Speaker 9: own content from that as they comment on it. And

39:21 Speaker 9: that's why those podcasters are protected.

39:23 Speaker 4: Huge difference because the material they're using, they're using it,

39:28 Speaker 4: it's still associated, it's still identified as the original. You're

39:32 Speaker 4: playing it, but it's the original. You know, it's the

39:34 Speaker 4: person speaking, is that person not them?

39:38 Speaker 9: That's a good point.

39:38 Speaker 4: They're not taking all of that and creating something. It's

39:43 Speaker 4: not that right, you know, this is literally this is

39:47 Speaker 4: like I read every VC Andrews book and then I

39:50 Speaker 4: write a VC Andrews book because I read all of

39:54 Speaker 4: her books and just gurgitated out her own style wording

39:58 Speaker 4: continued her story. Isn't that still her story? It's still

40:02 Speaker 4: her story. I'm I'm playing in her world. It's not

40:06 Speaker 4: like it's one thing to do.

40:09 Speaker 9: I mean, if you took the characters and made all

40:12 Speaker 9: basically yeah, well that would be then you'd be violating

40:15 Speaker 9: her intellectual property.

40:16 Speaker 4: Well, how are you not violating a musician's intellectual property

40:21 Speaker 4: when you're stealing the notes off of a page instead

40:23 Speaker 4: of the words off of a page.

40:26 Speaker 9: Now that just to play Devil's advocate. You know my

40:29 Speaker 9: counter argument, and you've heard me say this before. And

40:31 Speaker 9: by the way, at the end of the day, I

40:32 Speaker 9: will always argue on behalf of artists that we've got

40:35 Speaker 9: to talk about and protecting artists, And you know obviously

40:38 Speaker 9: where I come from. I think everyone understands that. But

40:40 Speaker 9: the the counter argument, and I do think it's a

40:43 Speaker 9: decent counter argument. So again I'm playing Devil's advocate. But

40:46 Speaker 9: when we talk about these large learning models sucking up

40:50 Speaker 9: all this information and then and then being able to

40:52 Speaker 9: create from it, if I how is that different from

40:58 Speaker 9: necessarily the human. So if I sit down and I

41:02 Speaker 9: write a song any way, well let me just finish

41:06 Speaker 9: my thought. Though again I'm playing Devil's out here, but

41:08 Speaker 9: let me just finish my thought. If I'm sitting down

41:11 Speaker 9: and I'm writing something, anything that I write is informed

41:15 Speaker 9: and influenced by all the music that I've previously heard

41:19 Speaker 9: in my lifetime up to that moment. So therefore, how

41:23 Speaker 9: is that different?

41:24 Speaker 4: Because you are a human being using your mind, not

41:27 Speaker 4: a computer that can memorize everything verbatim, every signature, stamp,

41:32 Speaker 4: every note, every everything, every dissonance and replicate that precisely.

41:37 Speaker 4: You are a human. You cannot do that, right, You

41:39 Speaker 4: as a human can interpret what you hear, what you see,

41:41 Speaker 4: what you feel, and then reinterpret that into artistry. That's

41:45 Speaker 4: what artists do, right. You take a story, something that's

41:48 Speaker 4: pointed to you, You take a paint brush and you

41:50 Speaker 4: scart that around. That is you interpreting the world around

41:53 Speaker 4: you into that canvas. Right, same thing a musician does,

41:56 Speaker 4: interpreting the world and putting it down on a sheet music.

42:00 Speaker 4: That's unique.

42:01 Speaker 9: Yeah.

42:01 Speaker 4: You taking all the knowledge that somebody gives you, go

42:03 Speaker 4: to college for ten years, you take all that knowledge

42:06 Speaker 4: to write something that's you as a human being, creating

42:09 Speaker 4: something out of your own mind. It's not picture perfect

42:14 Speaker 4: pages in a computer that can literally just that's not creation,

42:20 Speaker 4: that's gluing stuff together.

42:23 Speaker 9: Just very quick, yeah, yeah, just very quickly. I'm looking

42:27 Speaker 9: on YouTube. I just want to hear something from.

42:30 Speaker 4: I Will Live.

42:31 Speaker 9: I'm like, what, what could somebody possibly be paying? See

42:35 Speaker 9: I'm still stuck on that part. What could somebody be

42:36 Speaker 9: paying three million dollars for? Okay?

42:38 Speaker 4: So, uh, what's the going rate for artists these days?

42:43 Speaker 9: So it's not that, let's see Okay, Okay, So I

42:50 Speaker 9: found the YouTube page Xanny moon A. All right, I'm

42:52 Speaker 9: just gonna play this first song that pops up. Looks

42:54 Speaker 9: like this is the newest single. It's called back when

42:57 Speaker 9: Love Was Real? All right, this is the lyric video here.

43:00 Speaker 9: Let me it's probably an ad first, let me see.

43:03 Speaker 9: I'm just curious, like, what what could this be?

43:10 Speaker 18: M M, I want that back in the day kind

43:22 Speaker 18: of loving live stream. It was fell inside. It's no text,

43:28 Speaker 18: no ma nightiest, just loyalty and a little bit of respect.

43:33 Speaker 18: Before everybody knew.

43:35 Speaker 7: Your business, Before who.

43:38 Speaker 2: You Live turns suspicious?

43:40 Speaker 11: Before the GPS and the past.

43:43 Speaker 9: Words to love a simple just me you take me back.

43:50 Speaker 7: When love was real.

43:52 Speaker 9: I almost feel like she's trolling all of us with

43:54 Speaker 9: those lyrics.

43:55 Speaker 4: It doesn't sound any different from stuff you've created, and

43:57 Speaker 4: I don't think it does, right.

44:00 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't get a few words in there, don't.

44:03 Speaker 9: I don't get it like this, This so many not okay.

44:06 Speaker 4: I'm not okay with this. You know this is wrong.

44:11 Speaker 4: It's a huge difference between human creation and computer creation.

44:14 Speaker 4: We humans don't have the ability to photo have a

44:18 Speaker 4: photographic memory of every single word note you know what

44:23 Speaker 4: I mean, every breath of the in a nation where's

44:26 Speaker 4: there's so much to what an artist does as a human.

44:29 Speaker 9: Although that does well, that raises a question though, what

44:31 Speaker 9: if what if an artist has a photographic memory? Should

44:34 Speaker 9: they but you're not gonna should they not make music?

44:36 Speaker 4: That's different at.

44:41 Speaker 9: Photographic memories. That's you're a human.

44:43 Speaker 4: But you're a human. You're still using everything that you've

44:47 Speaker 4: got to create something out of your own brain. It's

44:50 Speaker 4: not like a computer literally taking ones and zeros and

44:54 Speaker 4: realigning the ones and zeros and spitting it back at you,

44:56 Speaker 4: which is what I feel like it's doing. You're taking

44:59 Speaker 4: everybodybody else's music, here's your ones and zeros, rearrange it,

45:04 Speaker 4: spit it back out. That's not what a human being does.

45:07 Speaker 4: A human being takes life, experience, thought, feeling, passion, emotion,

45:12 Speaker 4: all of that, everything they've learned, they've been around, musicians, whatever,

45:16 Speaker 4: and then create out of that. Yeah, big difference between

45:20 Speaker 4: rearranging it and creation.

45:22 Speaker 9: Justin Michaels is in the chat room. You know, he's

45:25 Speaker 9: a very loyal listener and supporter of actually all the

45:28 Speaker 9: programming that we're involved in. And he says, so you

45:31 Speaker 9: can you can use AI and get signed. Now, Wow,

45:36 Speaker 9: that's what I'm saying, right, we just found this out

45:38 Speaker 9: And he said, Matt, look out for Skynett.

45:41 Speaker 4: I think we've already gotten there at this point. Yeah,

45:45 Speaker 4: but it is it isn't right, It's not okay with me. Yeah,

45:49 Speaker 4: And you're never going to see this artist for in

45:51 Speaker 4: real life ever, they're not existent. You could see somebody

45:56 Speaker 4: pretending to be them, but you will never see them

45:59 Speaker 4: because they don't exist. It only exists in a computer.

46:03 Speaker 9: Well, let's move on from that because I just want

46:05 Speaker 9: to get this other story. But this also deals with

46:08 Speaker 9: you know, because I'm always fascinated by anything to do

46:10 Speaker 9: with copyright, intellectual property, all of that is, trademarks, all

46:14 Speaker 9: of that is very fascinating to me. Obviously, I did

46:17 Speaker 9: not go to law school, but if I had the

46:19 Speaker 9: type of law that I would probably be practicing would

46:23 Speaker 9: have to do with all that, I'd probably be an

46:24 Speaker 9: entertainment lawyer because these things are so interesting to me.

46:27 Speaker 9: But this is another story that you sent me. This

46:29 Speaker 9: is from pitchfork dot com. Neil Young has been sued

46:33 Speaker 9: by Chrome Hearts Fashion over his band's new name. And

46:38 Speaker 9: by the way, I didn't even know that Neil Young

46:41 Speaker 9: had a new band, you know. I just think of

46:43 Speaker 9: him as a solo artist, of course.

46:44 Speaker 4: But I didn't know there was a fashion called Chrome

46:47 Speaker 4: I didn't either Chrome Heart the Chrome Hearts.

46:50 Speaker 9: The Los Angeles company is not happy about the existence

46:53 Speaker 9: of Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts, so says here.

46:58 Speaker 9: Last year, Neil Young began to play shows with a

47:00 Speaker 9: new backing band that he called The Chrome Hearts. Then

47:04 Speaker 9: in June, Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts featuring Young,

47:09 Speaker 9: Micah Nelson, Corey McCormick, Anthony legerfo orligerfo and Spooner Old

47:16 Speaker 9: Him released their debut album Taken to the Trees I'm

47:21 Speaker 9: Sorry Talking to the Trees. Now, Young and his bandmates

47:24 Speaker 9: are being sued by the la fashion brand Chrome Hearts

47:27 Speaker 9: for trademark infringement. Chrome Hearts LLC filed its complaint in

47:33 Speaker 9: a California federal court on Thursday, September eleventh. The lawsuit

47:37 Speaker 9: was first reported by Billboard. In the complaint obtained by Pitchfork,

47:40 Speaker 9: lawyers for Chrome Hearts outline the brand's ownership quote of

47:45 Speaker 9: the Chrome Heart's word mark and composite trademarks comprising the

47:51 Speaker 9: Chrome Hearts mark and design components unquote, dating back to

47:55 Speaker 9: nineteen ninety one. They argue that Young and his bandmates

48:00 Speaker 9: are infringing upon the brand's trademark by selling Neil Young

48:04 Speaker 9: and the Chrome Heart's merchandise. That quote incorporates the exact

48:09 Speaker 9: Chrome Heart's word mark and thus likely to cause confusion

48:14 Speaker 9: with Chrome Heart's various Chrome Heart marks. The likelihood of

48:18 Speaker 9: confusion is not merely hypothetical. Some clothing and apparel vendors

48:23 Speaker 9: have apparently already mistakenly assumed that there is a connection

48:27 Speaker 9: between Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts and Chrome Hearts

48:31 Speaker 9: and are actively promoting that purported connection. For example, some

48:37 Speaker 9: vendors have started marketing T shirts that prominently display mister

48:41 Speaker 9: Young's name and the Chrome Heart's iconic stylization of the

48:45 Speaker 9: Chrome Heart's mark unquote. I assume, by the way, so

48:49 Speaker 9: what that means is it's using the same font as

48:54 Speaker 9: the Chrome Heart's logo. I have to assume otherwise there

48:57 Speaker 9: would probably be no issue. I wouldn't think.

49:00 Speaker 4: I think you only had to be concerned about another

49:01 Speaker 4: band's name. Yeah, I wouldn't.

49:03 Speaker 9: I mean, it's they're claiming, according to that from the

49:07 Speaker 9: lawsuit that verbi, it's from the lawsuit that it's already

49:10 Speaker 9: causing confusion. I find that heart of belief. If it

49:14 Speaker 9: is causing confusion. If that's true, then I guess that

49:17 Speaker 9: bolster is their case. But I'm a little skeptical. It

49:19 Speaker 9: says here. According to the complaint, Chrome Hearts notified Young's

49:23 Speaker 9: team in July about the alleged trademark infringement, but the

49:27 Speaker 9: band continued to tour under the banner and sell merchandise.

49:30 Speaker 9: Through the lawsuit, Chrome Marts is now requesting that Neil

49:33 Speaker 9: Young and the Chrome Hearts stop using the name. Pitchfork

49:36 Speaker 9: has reached out to representatives for Neil Young and the

49:38 Speaker 9: Cromarts and lawyers for Cromhart's LLC for comment. So there

49:43 Speaker 9: you go. I don't really know what to make of

49:46 Speaker 9: that one.

49:47 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I always thought it would be different

49:50 Speaker 4: if it's a band, like how is it usually is banned?

49:54 Speaker 11: Like?

49:54 Speaker 4: How is that confusing?

49:55 Speaker 9: Usually if it's make music, if it's completely different industry,

50:00 Speaker 9: then then it usually doesn't end up mattering. But I

50:06 Speaker 9: don't know, I don't know.

50:07 Speaker 4: I mean, does Chrome Hearts I don't know what kind

50:10 Speaker 4: of bass?

50:13 Speaker 9: I doubt it. But maybe maybe they're trying to get

50:16 Speaker 9: some money. Maybe they want maybe they'd like to make

50:18 Speaker 9: a settlement where Neil Young pays X amount of money

50:21 Speaker 9: to sort of license the name Chrome Hearts.

50:23 Speaker 4: Or are they doing this just to get more attention

50:25 Speaker 4: onto their products? Because hey, it makes a great story.

50:28 Speaker 4: That could be talking about it.

50:30 Speaker 9: That could be too Yeah, because I've never even heard

50:31 Speaker 9: of Chromart's and you didn't say.

50:33 Speaker 4: Anything about them sewing for money.

50:34 Speaker 9: Interestingly, well they want them to stop using the name?

50:39 Speaker 4: Is there a cash requestion?

50:40 Speaker 9: There? There there may be a well, like I said,

50:43 Speaker 9: I mean, if they can, if they can come to

50:44 Speaker 9: a settlement, which these things often do. They they more

50:48 Speaker 9: often settle than actually go to court. So they might

50:50 Speaker 9: come to a settlement where they effectively license the name

50:52 Speaker 9: Chrome Hearts to Neil Young it's silly, or or they

50:57 Speaker 9: get a percentage of uh of of revenue generated from

51:03 Speaker 9: Neil Young merchandise which has Chrome Hearts on.

51:06 Speaker 4: If I see Neil Young and the Crohnhearts up at

51:08 Speaker 4: this new arena, I know that that I'm going to

51:09 Speaker 4: be confused and go by clothing.

51:12 Speaker 9: Well that's the thing that would that would be Yeah,

51:14 Speaker 9: that would be a good counter argument to the lawsuit.

51:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like it's it, and it's not even

51:19 Speaker 4: like they're not even promoting the name separately. It's with

51:21 Speaker 4: Neil Young, So Neil Young and the Chrome Heart. Right,

51:24 Speaker 4: it's not a separate name.

51:26 Speaker 9: Even right, if the band was simply called Chrome Hearts,

51:29 Speaker 9: that would be.

51:30 Speaker 4: Well, even if they are, it's a band, it's not

51:32 Speaker 4: a clothing designer. Yeah, unless their T shirts start making music.

51:36 Speaker 4: I don't hear it, right, I think.

51:41 Speaker 9: I'm saying I'm not sure. I'm a little I I

51:45 Speaker 9: usually draw a pretty fast conclusion with this stuff. I'm

51:49 Speaker 9: a little I'm a little undecided. I'm uncertain of this. Yeah,

51:54 Speaker 9: usually surprises me too. I usually see these things a

51:58 Speaker 9: little bit more cut and dry.

51:59 Speaker 4: But I'm I think stupid.

52:00 Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I'm not sure on this one.

52:02 Speaker 4: I don't see anybody mixing up clothing with and and

52:05 Speaker 4: the only merch they're selling is band related.

52:07 Speaker 9: So yeah, but there's but again from Cromart's position, see,

52:12 Speaker 9: they're gonna argue, yeah, you're right, but what what what

52:15 Speaker 9: kind of merch do you sell that's band related clothing?

52:19 Speaker 9: T shirts, a T shirt st that's the argument they're

52:23 Speaker 9: gonna use. It's not a whole product, it's you know,

52:26 Speaker 9: it'd be one thing if they were just selling CDs,

52:29 Speaker 9: you know, or something. But you're in the same industry,

52:31 Speaker 9: you're selling merch. But see, but that's all but see that,

52:34 Speaker 9: but that's the art. But they are, in a sense,

52:36 Speaker 9: and that's the argument.

52:38 Speaker 4: The same industry. They're in music.

52:40 Speaker 9: Merchandising of clothing. That is the same. And if you're

52:44 Speaker 9: in the music industry, you're in the merch you're in

52:46 Speaker 9: the merchandise industry.

52:47 Speaker 4: You are follows brand clothing like a brand, which I don't,

52:52 Speaker 4: but people who follow brand clothing don't confuse it with musicians.

52:57 Speaker 4: They might get interested in a brand, but they're not

52:59 Speaker 4: gonna confuse it. Oh, I thought you were selling T

53:02 Speaker 4: shirts in here? Why are there so many drums? Like?

53:05 Speaker 4: Come on, that doesn't happen. You don't go to the

53:08 Speaker 4: T shirts, you don't go to Marshal's. Walk over to

53:11 Speaker 4: the rack that's got chrome whatever here and look for

53:14 Speaker 4: Neil Young. It doesn't work that way, right, I'm sorry,

53:19 Speaker 4: I don't No, I hear you. Both of these stories

53:23 Speaker 4: are to me today.

53:25 Speaker 9: I'm just a little bit. I'm just a little bit uncertain.

53:27 Speaker 9: We're gonna have to follow that one closely as it

53:29 Speaker 9: moves forward. No, let's see more to it than very curious.

53:32 Speaker 4: I'm missing or something.

53:34 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm very curious to see how that ends up.

53:36 Speaker 9: I don't see consumer confusion here. Well, no, but from

53:40 Speaker 9: the from that statement from the lawsuit, it sounds like

53:42 Speaker 9: cromart is saying, there's like confusion within the industry, within

53:45 Speaker 9: the fashion industry, give me a break, because they're getting

53:48 Speaker 9: orders from give me a break, I don't know.

53:52 Speaker 4: And they're getting orders from stupid people that don't know

53:53 Speaker 4: the difference between a musician and clothing designers. I don't

53:58 Speaker 4: think I'm sticking.

53:59 Speaker 9: To it all right, we dug in, we gotta go,

54:04 Speaker 9: we gotta go. Jenny, you want to quickly plug the

54:08 Speaker 9: event we're going to today and your website because you've

54:11 Speaker 9: been up to a lot. Oh and you should mention

54:12 Speaker 9: too in the Union Leader you're.

54:14 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, check out yesterday's Union Leader. I have

54:16 Speaker 4: an opt ed in there if you want to go

54:17 Speaker 4: check it out. And we are going to be leaving

54:20 Speaker 4: here and going to the Great North Aleworks on Whole

54:23 Speaker 4: dav here in the Queen City for the pause and pints,

54:26 Speaker 4: fundraising and just a party a fun come say hi

54:30 Speaker 4: to us. They may greed ta because they have all

54:32 Speaker 4: kinds of great beers. And of course this is raising

54:34 Speaker 4: money that's staying here locally in New Hampshire to take

54:37 Speaker 4: care of animals. And I'm really curious to see what

54:40 Speaker 4: animal one and is gonna be pictured on the can

54:43 Speaker 4: of beer when we get there, So we're gonna check

54:45 Speaker 4: out that. And also just definitely check out the Mosaic

54:48 Speaker 4: Are Collective, also located here in the Queen City. Check

54:51 Speaker 4: out their website. Lots of great things coming up there

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55:20 Speaker 9: of the show we have some conversations and guests that

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55:36 Speaker 9: we just did one Thursday night with our friend Brandon LeMay,

55:38 Speaker 9: which I suggest people check out, and also the other

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55:45 Speaker 9: We'll have new episodes of those up soon as well,

55:47 Speaker 9: so Matt connorton dot com. You can find all of

55:49 Speaker 9: that there and thank you again. Of course. In the

55:51 Speaker 9: first hour we had Larry and how do you say

55:55 Speaker 9: his name? I don't want to mispronounce his name.

55:58 Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

56:00 Speaker 9: We have the gentleman from Loud Entertainment here in the

56:02 Speaker 9: first hour, Larie. I can't remember how to say his

56:06 Speaker 9: name correctly. But they've got a big show tonight. They've

56:09 Speaker 9: got a Godsmack and Metallica tribute show happening tonight at

56:13 Speaker 9: Jewel if you want to check that out too, And

56:15 Speaker 9: of course thank you. In the second hour, Matt Axton,

56:17 Speaker 9: who will be at the Rex Theater right here in

56:20 Speaker 9: Manchester on September twenty fourth. We had a great conversation

56:23 Speaker 9: with him and so he'll be coming to Manchester. And

56:26 Speaker 9: of course in the third hour we talked with Lydia. Ready,

56:28 Speaker 9: thank you again, Lydia. We're actually gonna end the show today.

56:31 Speaker 9: We're gonna play this again, her newest single, This is

56:33 Speaker 9: called the Way We're Rolling. I love this very positive,

56:36 Speaker 9: very cool and if you miss any part of today's show,

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56:44 Speaker 9: And that's going to do it for us.

56:45 Speaker 4: For now.

56:45 Speaker 9: We're out here. We'll talk to y'all a little bit later.

56:47 Speaker 9: Bye everybody, Bye bye.

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