Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-29-23

0:00 You're listening to w M and H point three. Get command God do get so greenly down Matzille giving Welcome everybody, Here we go. It is that time again. Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w M n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six. If you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt connorton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera.

1:11 Today is Friday, September twenty nine, twenty twenty three, and I am not alone. If you're gonna play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band. Then league guitar is hot but not far Lousiana Man Soul rolls both Baby in Love and then sold names. If you're gonna play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band. Yeeha, Texas Mike is here, yeha. How are you Texas? Mike? I'm good. Have you been Have you been on the show since we had our new intro the with Jerry Robinson announcing me is the Uh you do know that right that I'm the commander to the Supreme Leader of Jerry's Rock and Roll Army.

2:05 It's uh. I wasn't sure if you were aware. I wanted to make sure you knew. It's it's a very powerful and prestigious position. Sometimes I commit war crimes. It's great. No, I'm kidding about that part. My goodness, I don't want to end up in the Hague. Welcome everybody. Yes, Texas Mike is here. We don't see you as much as we used to Texas Mike, but but it is wonderful to see you, my friend. Well, what's on your shirt? For those watching online? My place of business, Plank Wars Cafe on the west side here and me and Chest.

2:36 Yeah, I've never been there, but everything I hear is wonderful. Yes, you've been there for a few years. Right, Yeah, just just huh, very good, very good. And anything anything new with the love life, just fucking along as always. All right, everything's good though, everything's stable since we last talked. Yes, it is good, good. I think this is a record for you. Yeah, very good, very good. Well, welcome everybody on this Friday afternoon. Of course, we did open with the video that I opened with, Well to you, it's audio, but after all, it's a radio show, but I found it on YouTube.

3:16 I wanted to play something that kind of explained some of the for the uninitiated, the history of Senator Dianne Feinstein from California. Woke up to the news today that she had passed away at the age of ninety. Not a shock in the sense that obviously her declining health had become a pretty serious issue, and as we've discussed recently, and so I wanted to, you know, just kind of memorialize her that way and what we'll talk about that a little more too. And then, of course, and then I played I Don't Be a Stranger, only because that's just been stuck in my head since the first time I heard it by the band Fox and the Flamingos, who we had on earlier in the week.

3:58 Oh my god, I can't get enough of that song. I cannot get enough of that song. But we have a call. Let's see who's on the line. Hi, Welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed. Who's this Well, if it isn't my favorite member of my rock and roll army. Yes, Jerry Robinson on the line. Hi Jerry, Hello, matts So, Hello Texas Mike. Hello Jerry, Texas Mike. Why don't you give Jerry ayeha? Oh very nice. He's from Texas. Quite that, Really it's actually from Texas. You know. Some people like to have you know, like you know, like really cool names, of course, but if he's actually from Texas, and that's just one extra level cooler, right, he actually is from Texas, unlike some people who claim they're from places when they're really from Poughkeepsie or something.

4:47 Yeah. No, Texas, Mike, He's actually from Texas. I mean prue born and bred, you know, big awesome Texas man. That's great. Listen, matts So. I don't want to ruin the show anything, but I just had the call and just put it out that one more time before tomorrow, of course, our big show you me, Billy, Aaron Patcher, It's all tomorrow. I cannot wait to play live with you guys. It's gonna be fantastic. Absolutely, I'm very excited and uh boy to be in front of a live crowd performing these songs and you know, too, being able to for the audience to be able to experience them unedited.

5:31 Because of course there's certain songs if you hear them on the radio when I play them on the show, there's their radio edits. But oh yes, you'll get to hear them in all of their glory. Yes, it's gonna be fantastic, you know, you know, yeah. I was talking to uh Alan Patch earlier and he said that, he said he was a little bit nervous, but I told him listen, I said, Eric, you're no longer just you know, a film review. You now full scale rock star. So you know, all the sticks are gonna be like wanting to, you know, hold your hand and hug you and stuff.

6:06 So you know, ever he's got, Billy doesn't have that problem. Billy he told me flat out, he said, I'm gonna hug as many girls as possible. So it's gonna be a great show that should be absolutely zero stress, because of course it's a soul Well, I can't really say it's sold out. It's the free show that we're doing, but I guess you'll say booked out. I guess fully booked out show, would that be the right word. I think we can go with that, Jerry. Yes, it's booked out. This book. I think like two thousand people.

6:39 It's going to be fantastic. It's gonna be great. I'm really really excited to hear your baselines. Like you know, you know, when you're in the studio and they pump it through the audio, like you know, you can kind of tell, but when you're on that stage, you really feel that base. So I'm very very excited to see what you'll Maybe you'll do some extra cool stuff live. Might I might do that? Jerry. I've been practicing my scales. I've been I've been running my scales. Also, what was the name of that that song you had right before your show started with that?

7:11 It had a very very beautiful female voice in it. Yeah, that's Mazy Ray from the band Fox and the Flamingos. Jerry. We had them on the show earlier in the week and they played live. Oh, just incredible. But I love that song. That's a hit song. It sounds funny, it's like ah, I mean, it's it's like bluesy. It's like kind of like bluegrass. It makes you know, like when you hit the song take Me Home Kent three Roads, it gave me that kind of feeling deep deep down inside my heart. Wow, that's amazing, wonderful.

7:47 Well, yes it is. It was excellent. I just wanted to call promote the show. The audio will be live or we're gonna record it live, but yes, the audio will probably be available by Sunday if mister Beacon get it out fast enough, but really quick. Also, Texas, Mike, are you still down on the line. Yes, yes, I'm in studio. Are you all up? He isn't still your good Texas, Mike, I would like to know I extend this to all of Matt's friends because I trust Matt and his judgment. Would you like to be the newest member of Jerry's rock and roll Army?

8:28 I'd love too. Oh my god, Wow that's so cool Texas, Mike. I've always wanted to be in a band with you. This is fantastic. Listen, Matt. I hope you have a great rest of your day. Texas, Mike, I hope you have a great rest of your day. All the best, Jerry, Thanks Jerry, Wow, the great Jerry Robinson can't wait. Well, welcome to the bad now. If you realize that means you have to play tomorrow night. I'm always booked. We'll figure something out. Maybe you can have an AI version of you at the show. Yeah.

9:02 By the way, uh and I don't know. Jerry's an older gentleman, so it might not have occurred to him to ask, do you play an instrument? I guess my voice? My voice is my industry. Well, yeah, you could be like a backup singer, or there's always the tambourine to fall back on. Yep, exactly, there's always the tambourine. Very good, Wow, this is exciting. Welcome Texas, Mike. I uh boy, I that was that was a truly a remarkable, wonderful Yes, and of course you know the show is booked out. It's very uh, very exclusive.

9:37 There's there's gonna be a lot of industry people watching. I know that, but uh, but yes, I believe Sunday night, mister B will have the full show available online and you'll be able to you'll be able to hear the audio. I don't think I don't think there's going to be video, but you'll be able to hear the audio of what we did. It'll be like a live album. It'll be great. Ah. It's a very very exciting. This is like a this is like a whole new chapter for all of us in our in our careers, and well for you, it's really the Actually it's not the beginning of a music career for you, because you did, from what I recall, for a little while you were the manager and producer for New was it New Affirm of the Spark.

10:17 Yes, yes, now that didn't work out. I realize, Yes, you had some creative differences or something. I think it just wasn't just just wasn't vibing, correct, Yeah, yeah, I understand. Well, you know those people from not to stereotype, but the people from Greensboro, North Carolina, they can be a little difficult to work with. They're very demanding. Uh. They always uh they're always putting things in hashtags, you know, they they talk funny. I mean, it must have been weird, right when one of them would would come up to you and say, you know, I have a question, I say to you, hashtag Texas Mike.

10:53 I would imagine that got tedious after a while. Yes, yes, yes, well, the well, this is all very exciting. What a what a great uh, what a great thing? Uh? Six o three two five oh six oh seven if you'd like to join us six three two five O six zero seven. The studio line is open. Coming up today at the top of the hour. Speaking of Eric Pincher, or we call him Eric Pilcher, but Eric Pincher is like his stage name, yeah boy, And when he plays guitar, I'll tell you, I mean, i'll tell you later. I'll tell you tomorrow when when we're when the show's live, when we're playing No.

11:31 But uh, he's got this week on the agenda is Night of the Living Dead for his classic film review and I really Eric is uh as he's been celebrating the career of George A. Romero U this month, he's kind of taken the film reviews in a little bit of a different direction. He's approaching it differently, and I really like what he's doing. I think this is one of his best ones yet. So we're gonna share that with you at the top of the hour. And it's been cool over the past couple of years working with Eric on these I mean well, I mean he he does all the work.

12:04 I do a little bit of just light editing, very light. Actually at this point I do hardly any editing at all. To them but I do listen to them first, and it's been cool seeing him kind of evolve. Uh well, I shouldn't say kind of. He definitely evolved in terms of his process and his presentation on these reviews, and you can you can kind of hear it too, at least I notice it because I pay attention really closely. Is I notice that he just seems more confident in his reviews, not that he wasn't in the beginning, but he seems a lot more confident with with all of it now, and I can hear it and how he narrates, how you know, he writes out a script and everything and then he goes to put the review together in But yeah, he does a great job.

12:49 So I know he's in the chat room, but I don't know if he can actually I think he might be working, so I don't know if he can actually hear these glowing compliments. But I do have many glowing compliments. He's my favorite conservative, you know,

13:01 And that segment will return next week, I think. I think that's the plan in the second hour or so. But yeah, six O three two five six seven six zo three two five O six zoh seven, we will say hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat in a moment, and if you are just joining us, uh, oh, Eric Pilcher says, I'm here, and if you are just joining us, we will talk a little bit more about Diane Feinstein of course as well. Uh, Senator Diane Feinstein passing away today at the age of ninety. And it was last night.

13:30 I fought, oh was it last night? Oh? Okay, I woke up to the news today, so I don't know. I guess I'm yeah now now that you mention it, Yeah, I think I did remember hearing it was last night. But yeah, like I said, you know, not not a big shock given her her health challenges at the end. But but quite a career. Uh. You know, whether you liked her or didn't like her, whether you agreed with her politics or not, or a read with her sometimes, you know. I mean, she wasn't like you know, she wasn't particularly as they said in that piece that I played from the Washington Post, you know, not not particularly liberal necessarily, but kind of a centrist Democrat.

14:13 But uh, but quite a career. Quite a career, I learned today. I didn't realize that when Walter Mondale ran for president in nineteen eighty four challenging Reagan, which obviously didn't go well for Mondale, but that before he settled on Geraldine Ferraro. Diane Feinstein was one of the prospective VP candidates that Mondale had interviewed. I had no idea about that until today. But our friend Shannon is on the line. High Shannon. No, Hello, high Shannon Texas. Mike, why don't you give Shannon a yeeha?

14:50 She's too shy to ask for it, but you know, we know you wanted one. Shannon. Okay, Yes, thank you. He's from Texas, you know. Yes, he's got on his spurs and everything, and he brought and he brought a lasso and he's gonna rope some doughgies if any Dogi's should happen to show up here. Wow, well how does that song go? Save a horse? Were at a cowboy? Y? Okay? Anyway? Yes? Yeah? What can we do for Ashanna? Nothing. I just wanted to say, have a good show, because I forgot something's happening to me too.

15:29 I don't know, no, I mean I did notice, so uh when you played that part. And it's nice because I don't have all the outlets that you all have to see. It's like someone's growth sitting what they've done, and like that, you know, Diane finds standing there. They sounded like a remarkable woman. The thing is is I mean, I'm not I'm doing it now, I'm not being rude, but is everybody dancing around? Did she have like all samis or dementia? Something not known? I'm not sure what her actual cause of death was, do you know Texas Mike Well, no, when when when they when you played the bit at the beginning, it said her decline.

16:22 Yeah, he believed that. Woman said to say, I, well, she had had she had had shingles and then she was out for a long time recovering from that. But I think there was there was something else going on. And then when she came back she was in a wheelchair with which again at her age is not not shocking. But she definitely was in cognitive decline and she may very well have had dementia. She had Mikey. Mikey found the hang on Shan and Mikey found the cause of death or not Back in March twenty twenty fight she was Dinosh was pop wise and then she's having for the complications of the single which Affection including n nc plat twice and Wednesday Hunt syndrome, which the way to have would turned back to the Senate.

17:12 What syndrome Wimsey Hunt? Okay, I'm not familiar. Well actually I feel like I might have heard of that, but I'm not. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but never heard of that. It sounds a good name for a band, but uh, hey, you get you get to ninety years old, you know, is some things are gonna go wrong. But but she got to ninety. Good for her, you know, good for her. I mean, I just I just didn't know, you know, what it was. And I don't know what I'm trying to say. You know, the stigma comes when people don't want to talk about something or just kind of want to hide it or put it away.

17:55 I don't know. I don't know if it's making sense, and I don't really care to people that to the haters, whatever did you Stephen? The Sorry? What what is DJ Stephen? The Facebook? I haven't seen him yet, although that doesn't mean he's not in there. He might be in there and I just haven't seen him. He's back from New York, Yes, yes, yeah, yes, okay, so you guys have a good night tonight. And Police has ruined music for me. Oh no, how did he do that? Damn you Police ruining music for Shannon. No, no, because now and I said, okay, I'm gonna remember this.

18:40 Oh I heard it because I hear all the other songs in the songs now. I mean I heard him before because then heard the beginning of a song and saying, oh it's and then it would be something else. All right, let's let's clarify for the audience what you're talking about. So I love policy, so so recently on retros Spectrum Radio, for three weeks in a row, we did. I just want to clarify, Shannon for the audience what what you're referring to, because because I know what you mean. But but but the audience might not know the context.

19:09 So some of them, I'm sure. But so the last few weeks on Retrospectrum Radio, because every week Paul picks a theme for the show, and the theme has been song plagiarisms and people getting sued for copying other songs and this and that, and I am probably the one out of everybody on the show, I'm the one who most often says not guilty when someone is accused of plagiarizing a song, because there are many many songs. Well, there are many many chord progressions and phrasings and so forth that show up in many different songs in pop music.

19:46 And so and by pop music, I mean, I don't mean specifically pop, I mean just broadly. I'm using the term very broadly, rock everything, everything that's popular. So if you if you really listen carefully, you'll you'll hear you'll hear the same You'll hear the same chords, the same notes in the same order, in many different songs. So you have to kind of allow for that a little bit. And some of these and by the way, a lot of these instances, and a lot of these instances the plaintiffs won when personally I don't think they should have won, or they settled out of court or whatever.

20:22 Now some of them. Uh, there's also examples where, for example, the band I think it's called Spirit they sue led Zeppelin over Stairway to Heaven. They actually lost, and I think they should have won because Zeppelin. Notice respect to Zeppelin, I'm a fan, but the most plagiaristic band ever. So but but so that obviously that's I assume, Shannon, not to speak for you, but I assume that's what you meant. Now that you're paying attention, you're noticing that you hear the same chord progressions and similar melodies and a lot of different popular songs right right before and

20:59 I one one of the songs was got old, I think, And and I'm gonna sorry pat myself on the back because the minute I heard the beginning of Salty Dog, I knew the song last Friday come along, but didn't they also sing got a little change in my pocket, go on, jingle ling ling, call you you know what I'm talking about? Oh that's uh Georgia Satellites, Keep your answer yourself? Okay, Well, at any rate, I heard a little rip of Zach and another song what I can't think of the song, but I said, oh no, I do it all the time now.

21:38 Yeah, and and and I can tell you too, I haven't. I haven't heard that song in probably decades, but I know the song very well. It was a huge hit. Keep your Answer Yourself by Georgia Satellites and and even even to your hands to yourself a salty Dog? Oh yes, no, you're right. Sorry, Yes, you shouldn't challenge me on that, Shannon, But that's okay. You know, you just have to learn. No, No, I'm just kidding. Sometimes I'm the k now, I'm just kidding. Sometimes I get it wrong too. But no, but even just playing that song right now, in my mind, it's like I can pick out parts of that song that I know I've definitely heard in other songs because there's nothing original about the song.

22:17 I mean, the lyrics are original, and it's funny, and it's I'm not knocking the song, but I'm just saying the song itself, there's nothing original about those about that chord progression, that melody anything, it's it's all come from other places. It's all been done, Shannon, is the problem. It's all been done, not really? But yeah, am I wrong? There are eight notes, but there's more notes on other instruments, right, But no, because Ed Sheeran said there are eight notes, This always the same number of notes, Shannon.

22:50 Yeah, it's it's the combination. But but but there's just but but there's just many chord progressions and melodies such a show a lot. They're just very common. Yeah, and and and you know like I say, music is something that should be shared with people, not not uh competed with or uh just shared in. The musicians that play the music do it for that purpose. I think because they love music, that doesn't mean they just like one kind of of the genre. They I like all kinds. I know Robbio yesterday, I know he know he knew what I meant when I said four three three, and that's I'm not gonna pianist sits at a piano for four minutes and thirty three seconds in a packed theater and sits there.

23:50 He does not play but four minutes and thirty three seconds, okay, And everybody on Facebook is going, well, what's the heck is the point of that? Well, the point of that is for you to appreciate what you do and do not hear or maybe you might start up a conversation with somebody staying next to you or oh no, I wouldn't do that. That would be rude, That would be rude to the performer. Everyone should be sitting there in silence. I think they do. But the purpose But so my point is, you know, like the Shannon missing you, Shannon, I'm not a violent person, but if I were in that situation and somebody started up a conversation with me while the pianists is sitting there in silence.

24:38 I'd be like, hey, what are you doing? I might punch that guy in the face. Well, you know, I don't know if it ever happened either, I wouldn't really punch him in the face,

24:48 but I might grab and twist something. I actually wouldn't even do that. I'd probably just nod politely, because that's kind of what I do in this situation like that. I'm sorry, Shannon, what you cry. I don't know what you said earlier, but you're crying. I just I don't know. I don't know what I said either, Shannon, I have a neurological condition. I can't remember you. You just come out with some hum dingers. Sometimes it is funny hum dingers, hum dingers I heard. I've heard that term before nineteen eighties, six or I don't know.

25:25 I can't think of the other words. But anyway, I mean, I'll be missing you by p Diddy whoever it was, Well, it was, of course, it's from every breath you take. By the police, and then yes, yes he did, he used it. However, the beat is from the police. None of the words are from the police, right, so well, wait a minute, no, part of it. Well, but part part of it is sort of no the every because in Diddy's version he said they they say they sing in the chorus every step I take, every move I make, I'll be missing you.

26:05 So so the lyrics are similar in the chorus, but the verses are completely different, obviously because Diddy is rapping, or his version of it and actually a fun fact or not fun at all. But and Rule wrote a book titled Every Perth You Take, and it was requested by the woman Strode about being murdered. In other words, the woman was so afraid of her husband or whatever. She knew he was going to the killer. And she told one of her friends, if something ever happens to me, you know, I think she had said, you know, get in touch with Dan Ruler or whatever, and it was every Perth You Take, that's the book.

26:54 I did not know if you do that. And she also has you Belong to Me another book. See, now, that's that's not considered plagiarism, right, and ad to use a title that is not plagiarism, No, I would say no, and you never hear the same unless Joe Biden did it? Uh? Two books? Can have you never hear two songs though, that have the same name? Sure you do. Lots of songs have the same name. You can't do you I don't know. I didn't think it out, But lots of songs have the same name dreaming. There's probably a million songs could just call dreaming or dreaming for example, just one example.

27:37 Oh, lots of songs have the same name, Shannon. Oh, and just just for the record, unless for the record. That's a good pun because you're talking about songs on music. Yes, there's a weird song record It says I'm not going to sing it, but record player. And anyway, I forgot to say to some of the sits damn all? Whatever? What was I saying? I have no idea? You were saying attention, Oh you're neural, Sorry Texas, Mike, were you listening? Oh, he does off, Texas. Mike was adjusting his spurs. Yes, Now is it a lasso or is it a lariat?

28:28 Wow? So okay, what's the difference between that and lariat? Now? I said, no, I can't hear him. What I can tell you he uses a lasso to rope some doughgies. But the lariat is one of the moves he used to use when he was in the ring because as you know, uh Texas Mike of course a former a WA tag team champion with black Jack Mulligan in the late nineteen seventies. Okay, great, but it a lariat is also something used with horses and stuff. M isn't it. I don't know, is it. I have no idea, honestly, have no idea.

29:08 When I hear the word lariat, I just think of the wrestling move, which is really just a kind of a clothes line. I don't know why it has its own Yeah, I just I just remember the pile driver or the Oh well, we don't talk about that word, shan. And that's that's for the other show. Sorry, he has some and she's okay, all right, Well you guys have a good night, and tell I love all of you guys. All right, Shannon, Oh that's what it is. Fun fact, I don't know if my calendar is wrong. Peter thought it was a pull moon last night.

29:37 My calendar says this tonight. Oh right, think see it because of the clouds that guy, Peter White he's always getting the moon wrong. All right, Shannon, Well, what are you gonna do? Well, I'm just saying there's gonna be some excitement because it's a pull moon tonight. Oh, there will be excitement on retro Spectrum radio with police. All right, all right, Shannon, by all right, bye bye, all right. I had to to make sure to pull the fader down before she hangs up, because lately when Shannon hangs up, it's a very loud click, and it's like, wow, jeez, we have a we have a call.

30:11 Hi. Welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's this Good afternoon, Matt. Oh, it's Eric Pilcher. Yes, I'm on my lunch break and thought I would call and personally thank you for the kind words you said earlier. Oh yeah, no, I mean it, dude. I mean the way I love the new review and you really have, you really have come a long way with it, so I think it's great. Well, I mean, you know, I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, and there have been some people who don't understand why we dedicated a month to George A. Romero, But I make that decision.

30:49 Well in you as well, By the way. Well, I guess by some people you mean John Hopwood.

31:00 Yes, my good friend John Hopwood is not a fan of George A. Romero. Right, well that's his Uh, that's his prerogative. Yes, but no, I actually have been listening and I'm having a really bad day at work today. Hearing those kind words really help. So thank you, sir. Oh well, I'm glad that helps. And I'm sorry you're having a bad day at work. Uh. It's Friday and people are going to pay their bills and they realize their cable bill is high. Oh so I get the brunt of it. Oh, that's that's unfortunate.

31:39 Are you able to do anything for them when they complain that their bill is high? Like? Do you have authority to lower their bills? Some situational? I mean, we have promotional offers, we can put them in. I can give loyalty credits. Possibly, there are there are things I can do. But everyone once more, Yeah, I mean, and it's like, well, I mean we are a business and have to look at what's best for business, right right? Do you? Uh? But but do you? I don't know if you want to answer this, but so if not, I understand, But I am curious because I've never had a job like that exactly, Like, if if does does how the person treat Let me put it this way, if a person is nice, are you asking if the person is rude to me, am I less inclined to do something for them?

32:38 Yeah? I was trying. I was trying to come up with a I don't know why I was trying to be I know, I don't know why. I don't know why I was trying to be so polite about it. I will reference the old. The old say you kill more flies, you attract more flies with honey than you do vinegar. Yes, so, And attitude dictates results, and you can read into that as much as you want. Yeah, no, I think that makes sense. I mean, that's that's really I'm always amazed that more people don't understand that. Like like whenever I see somebody giving somebody a hard time, uh, you know, in some sort of a customer service situation, it's like, uh, you know, uh, this individual, they're a human being too.

33:26 They'll probably be more helpful to you if you are nice to them instead of you know, just being like fix this for me. I'm so mad, and I'm the customer customer call me a money hungry freak today. That was a new one. So this customer thinks that you personally are are profiting from their cable bill. Apparently. Apparently, I mean they're the I mean, they were upset because I'm like, I can't add services to your account because your account has been suspend it because you didn't pay the bill. Yeah, I'm like, so you would have to pay the past due balance and then I can go ahead and do this for you.

34:10 That's fine, take my money. Money hungry freak. Oh my god. Oh okay, well, okay, I mean in my head, I'm thinking, probably don't want to if I mean, if you were financially prudent, wouldn't want to add more services when your services were you didn't pay the bill. But whatever, that's a good point there is that. Oh yeah, so it's been a fun day. Yeah. Well is Friday always like that? Fridays and Mondays? That makes sense? Actually, yeah, no, Like Mondays are people calling in because they are moving in all of this other stuff and uh, they and their their services were down all weekend.

35:08 They want credits and it's like, okay, we give you credits if your services doff. Why wouldn't we write no dyell about it? I get you're upset. Yeah, well, like you said, you get more. What did oh? Melanie said in the chat room you can catch a lot of flies using a cadaver, just saying,

35:32 well, I mean I think that you know, it's very good, it's awesome. She brought up cadavers with the film review. Yes, Night of the Living Dead, Yes, one of one of my top ten films of all time. I think I think I've seen it. Well, I've definitely seen see as I was listening to the review, I wasn't sure because you mentioned in the review spoiler alert about how there's been other versions of it made and so forth. So when I was a kid, I remember watching Night of the Living Dead with some friends, and I assume it was the original, but I can't be sure because I know there's been other versions.

36:14 What's it in black and white? I think so? But it was alone, it was in black and white. You watched the original, okay, that you watch it was in color and had Tony Todd as Ben. You watched the remake done by Tom Savini and John Russo what year was that? What year was the remake? Do you remember offhand, I want to say ninety one, okay, okay, No, then it wasn't there, okay, So it was the original. It had to have been the original that we watched. The thing that sticks in my mind about it and coloriz Now they did colorize the original.

36:48 Oh they did, because, of course in my review talks about this as well, the copyright had passed, so every one of their mother was releasing it on VHS. Yeah, and the and they colorized it. And I've seen the color version on DVD and it looks absolutely awful. Oh really, yeah, it really. You lose a lot of stuff in translation. Ed Murphy in the chat room just said, Barbara, I'm coming to get you. Is that from Night of the Living Dead? Oh yeah, okay, Oh, they're coming to get you, Barbara. The thing that's that has always stuck out in my mind about it, because again I watched it with some friends when we were kids.

37:34 Is I just remember brains the zombies walking around going to brains, dead man. It's not no, what movie is that from. I don't know, I've heard it before, but it's certainly not Night of the Living Dead. That Ramarro zombies. Oh didn't talk until Day of the Dead. Oh, then I'm wrong. It wasn't Night of the Living Dead. Then then my friends and I watched, So I'm I'm a lot of Romero's zombies have only talked once. Bob in Day of the Dead talked at the end. Oh, okay, because there's a movie. Maybe somebody in the chat room knows.

38:15 Okay, So I was wrong. It wasn't Not of the Living Dead, but it was. There's a movie involving zombies. It would have come out, probably had to be sometime. Well, it could have been any It could have been in the eighties or even I don't. I don't know how the movie was. One of my friends and I watched it. But but I just I remember. Oh, Melanie says, Revenge of the Living Dead, Return of the Living Dead. I think is the title. Yes, okay, I touch baits on that. Okay in my review, that was the unofficial sequel to it.

38:46 Oh that's not George A. Romero, No, that is John Russo. That did Return of the Living Dead. Melanie says, naked redhead dancing on gravestone. Right, I don't, I don't even I don't even remember that. I should remember that big film on usays up all nine. Oh, that might be where we saw it. I just I just remember it. They showed it quite a bit on that. All I remember is my friends and I having a lot of fun with with Rainss. We thought that was really funny. I do not. There was a long period of time, because of my love and adoration for George A. Romero, that I hated Return of a Living Debt and refused to watch it because I'm I was basically damn you John rousself for doing this.

39:41 But as I got older, I softened on it, and I recently rewatched it, and I'm like, you know, what, if if it wasn't called the unofficial sequel Tonight of a Living Debt, it would be a great like eighties Gore Fast what it would be all things considered. But because it's often called the unofficial sequel Tonight of the Living Dead, it really I think it turns a lot of people off to it. I feel the best way to enjoy Return of the Living Dead is to look at it as its own film, with its own merit. Yeah, I mean, because there are sequels Tonight the Living Dead that you know, while they don't directly tie into it, they really have the social commentary that Night of the Living Dead has so Melanie just said, he's right.

40:42 The movie is Return of the Living Dead, but the graphic novel it is based on was Revenge of the Living Dead. That's interesting, Okay that I didn't know about the graphic novel, Thank you, Melanie. I did not. That's awesome. I don't have to look into that. Yeah. I wonder why they change the name for the movie. Yeah, I mean, probably to try to tie it in as a sequel to Yeah, i'd the Living Dead piggyback on that because when Dawn of the Dead came out it was very successful. Yeah. That then that I've never seen.

41:17 Then Day of the Dead came out and it wasn't and then George Abramarro waited twenty years to do the sequel to Day of the Dead. Uh. Wow, those are so many of these movies. It's confusing. It goes Night Night, Dawn, Day, Land of the Dead, then Diary of the Dead, then Survival of the Dead, Survival of the Dead. What was that Survival of the Dead. That sounds like an oxymoron. It's not really good, m I asked from the title. But I guess they're making his final zombie chapter into a film. His wife has found a director and screenwriter to finish it.

42:14 Ah, and there it's coming. Apocalypse of the Dead, I believe is the working title. Oh maybe if they go through an apocalypse, they'll finally actually really be dead or find out what actually caused it. We never know what caused it. There's a hypothesis that are radioactive NASA rocket crashing caused this, but that's just a theory. It's never throughout all the films, it was never proven. Oh, Melanie says Land of the Dead. I dislike zombies gaining consciousness. Oh, so what do they become self aware?

42:53 In that movie, they're able they figure out how to use weapons. Oh that sounds horrible. It is. I mean, I don't I don't mean, I don't mean the movie. I don't mean it means. I don't mean the movie necessarily sounds bad because of that. I just mean that sounds horrible. If a zombie suddenly figures out how to use a weapon. I mean, it's bad enough there a zombie they're trying to eat you or whatever. Now they have a weapon. That's frightening. I mean, here's what I see Mel's point. But in the context of the film in the message Romero was trying to convey, it makes sense.

43:29 Hmm yeah, yeah. I mean that's why I love Romero's work is a majority of this films have that social commentary. Yeah, that resonates even to today. M All right, well, I'm gonna have to watch Jenny and I'll have to watch Not of the Living Dead now that I realize I've never actually seen it, and it was good news it's in public domain. Watching on YouTube. All this time, I was thinking that was the movie that I had watched, but it's not the movie I watched. Brains. You know, I might have to watch Return of the Living Dead tonight in four K man.

44:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I might have to when I get off work. It's a lot of fun from what I remember, because what's really great is when it's a whole lot of zombies and all of the they're all at the same time going brains, and it's just like a chorus of zombies saying brains. It's it's fun. I mean, maybe Jerry could put that in one of one of his new songs. Oh maybe. Oh that reminds me, by the way, are you aware I don't know if you've heard this earlier. He invited Texas Mike to be the newest member of Jerry and the Scumbags.

44:38 We're a quintet. Now, did you know this?

44:42 No, but I'm all for it. Texas Mike is the songbird of his generation. I've often said that he's uh, he's much too uh. He's much too humble to accept such a compliment, certainly, but I've always said that as well. I appreciate I believe it. He is the songbird of his generation. Andy has music industry experience, having been a manager and producer of New Affirm of the Spark. Hailing from Greensboro, North Carolina,

45:12 I remember a time when he was supposed to get me ice cream bars. Yeah that didn't pan out. Yeah that did not Yeah, but we won't let that get in the way of the band. Nope. I still love Texas Mike, and I love you too. Eric. Oh, very nice, Thank you, Texas Mike. Very nice. Well, Eric, we should let you. We should let you go, because in just a couple of minutes we're gonna get to that film review. I'm looking forward to sharing it, but I have to clock back into work, so I'm sorry. I took up so much time.

45:43 But like I said, I just really wanted to say thank you. I mean, you give me the platform so and get me the opportunity to evolve. And I mean, if Classic Film Reviews is successful, it's his to you as it is me, to be honest. Oh, that's that's being kind. But but no, I'm very I'm very happy too, very happy to do that. And it's a it's a popular segment with the listeners. And appreciate having you a part of our family there, Eric. Oh, I love being a part of the family. And if anyone has any questions about the Exorcist, oh right, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, contact Eric on social media or you can always hit me up and I'll forward it to Eric.

46:27 Matt should be sharing a really cool graphic out Oh yes, I will do that now that I've had a chance to really look at them. Wow, amazing. Yes I am. Like I said Sunday night, I will be seeing The Exorcist in theaters for the third time. I saw it when they re released it in two thousand. I saw at a independent theater New Year's Eve of two thousand and four, and I will be seeing it again. J Fed says mel Had a question and I seem to remember that from the other day in the chat room, but I don't remember what it was.

47:07 Yes, actually Mel s met to me on messenger and it could get answered. Ah, very good, very good, all right, Eric, So all right, well, thank you guys, have a good rest to the show in a good Friday. All right, TuS Mike. Can you give me a he ha on my way out? Ye? Thank you, Texas my all right bye? Eric, by all right, that was our friend Eric Pilcher and very nice. Oh, Mel just reposted the question for Eric in the chat room. Not not something I can read on the air, certainly, certainly speaking of the Facebook live chat though.

47:53 Let's say hello to everybody in there quickly, and then we'll and then we will get to Eric's classic film review of Night of the Living Dad, a movie I apparently have never seen. All this time. I thought, I, oh, we have a question for you, Texas Mike and the chatroom, Isaac Banks says, Texas Mike, what's your favorite John Mellencamp song. I'll get I'll get thank to you on that. You put me on the spot there. Yeah, he might not have one, Isaac Banks, I can tell you what My favorite John Mellencamp song is It's Peaceful World, the duet that he did with India Are, which I think it's just amaz it's actually probably I wouldn't put it in my top ten, but it might be in my top twenty list of favorite songs of all time.

48:37 I love that song. When I was a kid, my dad, you know, he listens to the show. I'm sure he remembers this. When I was a kid, I was obsessed with Tumbling Down, when the Wolves Come Tumbling Down, and that was I don't even like that song now if I hear it. But when I was a kid, for some reason, I loved that song. And but that was when he was still John Cougar, because he was John Cougar, and then he was John Cougar Mellencamp Camp, and then he was just John Mellencamp. But he eventually he dropped the Cougar entirely.

49:05 Jay fed we mentioned is in the chat room. Also Tom Blanchard joins us in the chat. Melanie I mentioned is in there. Let's see Isaac Banks was asking earlier who passed away. Of course we were talking earlier about the passing of Senator Diane Feinstein. Of California at ninety years old. Uh. Let's see easyg is in the Facebook lap chat. Hello Easy. Rona ferverro joins us of course from the great state of California. Uh. Let's see Dylan Reynolds is in the Facebook lap chat. Hello Dylan, very talented musician.

49:40 Let's see. I just want to make sure we don't miss anybody in here. Uh, Texas, Mike, I see here in there. Very good. Jenny of course is in the Facebook lap chat and said shalom peeps us. Ed Murphy, Oh, yes, I mentioned Ed is in the chat room. Hello Ed. Uh, let's see. I thought I saw somebody else in there too. Oh, Chris from the band Edgewise is in there. High Chris. Anybody else like to I don't like to leave anybody out if I can help it. Although I realized too sometimes when people are listening on Facebook, but they don't actually uh speak up in the chat room, I don't necessarily see them.

50:25 Oh. Eric Pilcher his favorite is rain on the Scarecrow. Yeah, that song I played. It's funny I played that. I remember playing that on the show one day because you know, it's about it's about farmers and this was back when during the Trump administration, when a lot of sanctions were being put on China that we're directly affecting the agriculture sector here and farmers were really suffering. That's a whole other subject, but but I remember playing Rain on the Scarecrow by Mellencamp for that reason and specifically in kind of dedicating it to the farmers who were just getting the hell beating out of them economically.

51:06 Miriam Banish also joins us in the Facebook latch at Hello, Miriam Oh. Tom Blanchard's favorite is Little Pink Houses. Yeah, it's a great song, Ain't that America? For you and me. I think a lot of people think that the name of the song is Ain't That America, but it actually is Pink Houses. Let's see, all right, Well we are at the top of the hour. So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a little break, We're gonna show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then from there we're going to go directly into Eric's classic film review, and the subject is Night of the Living Dead.

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54:49 wmnh rips the novels Night Oh Total Terra, Knight of the Living Dead, The dead who live on living flesh, the dead whose haunted souls hunt the living, the living whose bodies are the only food for these hunt godly creatures.

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56:22 Night of the Living Dead. It's hard to imagine a time when horror films did not use an element of realism to strike fear into the hearts of filmgoers. However, prior to nineteen sixty eight, horror films were old gothic monsters, aliens in various science enhanced creatures. That is until a director known for his work Mister Rogers Neighborhood, would create the first major independent film that would change horror forever. Our final film in this month long tribute to director George A. Romero is his first film, the nineteen sixty eight release Night of the Living Dead.

57:20 In this film, a group of individuals seek refuge in a farmhouse from beings that have inexplicably risen from the dead and crave human flesh. The film stars Duane Jones, Judith O'Day, Karl Hardeman, Marilyn Eastman, and Keith Wayne. Despite this film being our introduction to zombies, it is also known for being the first successful independent film. Our next two clips, George A. Romero explains during a Toronto Film Festival in two thousand and five the film success and how losing the copyright to the film led to it gaining a stronger following throughout the years, and then Romero will discuss the groundbreaking decision of casting Dwayne Jones's Ben.

58:17 It was groundbreaking because it is the first American film to have an African American male be the quote unquote hero of the film, and a historic tragedy that enhanced the film's profile. Oh, the fact is that when the film was first released, it made money. It actually it costs US about one hundred and seventeen thousand, and it made about seven hundred thousand in the first year in those drive ins and neighborhood theaters and you know, blah blah blah, and we said, wow, this is an easy business.

59:01 Then it went away, I mean just disappeared. And then one day somebody discovered that there was no copyright on the film because we had our title, our original title was Night of the Flesh Eaters, and we, stupidly, as young filmmakers, put up put the copyright bug a little see with the circle around it on the title on the title card. And when they changed the title, that bug came off, and all of a sudden there was no copyright. They didn't notice, we didn't notice, nobody noticed. You know. It was one of those things that just one of those the one that got away, and all of a sudden there was no copyright on the film.

59:40 So you know, the moment that people realized that everybody was selling it on VHS, and you know, everybody could release it without having to pay any royalties or anything else. And that's that's really the journey of that film. Then all of a sudden, the French discuss it is a magazine called Kahier the Cinema, which you may know, wrote the huge article about it being an amazing important American cinema And I wasn't thinking of it as that at all, but they everyone who was sort of noticing the film was talking about the racial issue.

1:00:27 And to honest, it wasn't a racial message at all. In fact, we were when when we cast Dwayne Jones, when Dwayne Jones agreed to do it, we didn't change the script. And when Jack and I were writing the script, it was the guy in our mind was Caucasian and the same things happened to him. And people are saying, well, here come these posse's with the posse with dogs and going after the black guy. They were going after the guy when he was white, And so that was not our point. Our point was more than disintegration of society, the inability to communicate the family, disintegration of the family unit and that's the stuff that we were.

1:01:12 You just you just picked him because he was the best actor you could find. Russ my partner, and not Russ and not Russ Steiner and I. We're driving into New York. We had the first answer print of this of the film in the trunk of our car, and driving to New York, we heard on the radio that Martin Luther King had been assassinated, and that I think is where the whole race thing came from. I mean that that sort of made the film that much more exotic, or that much just hearing that lows what you had in the trunk.

1:01:44 Suddenly it changed. I wonder if this has gon to be good for us. I mean, you know, I hate to say that, but you know it's obviously the thing that occurs in this film was made before the start of the MPAA, the Motion Picture Association of America, which gave films ratings that we know today. So Romero was able to use disturbing realism to depict the zombies. The people that played the Walking Dead actually eight cow livers and pig intestines that were depicted as human entrails. To keep the realism.

1:02:24 Well, that was groundbreaking make no mistake. What is most memorable and is still talked about to this day is the performance of Dwayne Jones. As we learned in our previous clip, Romero did not cast him because he was African American, but by casting him, Romero created a cinematic symbol for the civil rights movement. In Jones's performance is what makes Ben that it brings that symbol the life. Our next clip is an example of this. When we first encounter Ben, he rescues Barbara Judith O'Day from a zombie attack and brings her into the farmhouse.

1:03:09 Despite society crumbling around him and everyone else hysterical, Ben keeps his cool in this scene shows what makes him a strong hero, no matter his color. He grabbed me and he ripped me. He helped me, and he ripped in my clothes. Oh, I screamed, Johnny, Johnny, help me, Oh help me, And he wouldn't let me go. And then Johnny came and he ran and he fought this man, and I got so gread, I ran, I ran, and Johnny didn't come. We've got we have to wait for Johnny. Maybe we better go out and get him. We have to go out and get Johnny, he's out there.

1:04:20 Please, don't you hear me. We've got to go out and get him. Please, we have got to go get John Please help me. Please. Don't you know what's going on? After? This is my Sunday School kick man. Don't you understand my brother is alone? Your brother is dead. My brother is not dead. O. With the casting of Jones, how he played the strong hero role, it would be accurate to assume that this was about the civil rights movement, but that would be too simple for the great mind of Romero. He has said, this film is about the crumbling of society, as we have heard earlier.

1:05:44 Through further research, I found that during the Vietnam War, America had lost the idea of heroes. That also, during the sixties, the ideas of families, values, and morals had crumbled and people were fighting against the new ideas that others presented. That ultimately is what Ramera wanted to depict in this film. Our final clip is a great example of this. When faced with survival in the farmhouse, Ben encounters Harry Cooper, his wife, their daughter, and a young married couple. Harry Cooper is an older man that fights Ben for leadership and control over the farmhouse.

1:06:32 This final clip shows this fight between the old rules of society, that being Cooper and the new world ideas, that being Ben and how that conflict is constant and even when both of their survivals are on the line, they cannot get past this internal struggle.

1:07:00 That's the seller. It's the safest place. And then you didn't hear the rackets were patting up there? How would we supposed to know what was going on? Could have been those things? For all we knew that girl was screaming it. Sure you must go with a girl's screaming sounds like those things don't make any noise from anybody, know, somebody's been need to help them. Look, it's kind of hard to hear what's going on from down then. We thought we could hear screams, man, or all we knew that. Couldn't bet those things were in the house after it, and you wouldn't come up as hell.

1:07:24 Well, if there were more of the racket sounded like the place was being ripped apart, How were we supposed to know what was going on? Now we have in place. You just got a fifty same You couldn't hear from down there nowbviously it sound like the places being written apart. It would be nice if you get your story straight. Man. All right, now, you tell me I'm not going to take that kind of a chance where we got a safe place. We look into a safe place, and you're telling us we got to risk our lives just because somebody might need help.

1:07:48 Yeah, something like that. All right, why don't we settle this stir? We came out. Okay, we're here now, I said, guess we all go back downstairs before any of those things find out we're in here. They can't get in here, car, We can get up the whole place boarded up. Yeah, mood steady, all the few spots upstairs, they won't be hard to fix. You already save the seller's gonna say us place. I'm telling you they can't get in here. And I'm telling you those things turned over our car. We were damn lucky to get away at all.

1:08:15 Now you tell me those those things can't get through this lousy power wood, this wife and kids downstairs, Any kids heard him? Yeah? Well, I still think we're better off up here. We could strengthen everything up, mister Cooper. With all of us working, we can fix this place up in no time. We have everything we need up here. We can take all that stuff downstairs with us. And you're really crazy. You know that you got a million windows up here. All these windows you're gonna you're gonna make them strong enough to keep these things outs.

1:08:43 Huh. I told you those things don't have any strength. I smashed three up them and pushed another out the door. Did you hear me when I told you they turned over our car or had any good five men could do that? That's my point. Only there's nothing to be five or even ten. There's gonna be twenty thirty, maybe a hundred of those things. And as soon as they know we're here, this place is gonna be calling with him. Well, if there's happen, many though, probably get us wherever we are. Look the cellar, the cellar, there's only one door, right, just one door.

1:09:11 That's all we have to protect. Follow and I fixed it's lunch and boards from the inside. But I to get all these windows right. We never know where they we're gonna hit us next. You got a point, mister Cooper. But down in the cellar there's no place to run to. I mean, if they did get in there'd be no back exit. We'd be done for. Yeah, we can get out of here if we have to. And we got windows to see what's going on outside, but down there but no windows. If a rescue party did come, we didn't even know it.

1:09:37 But the seller is the strongest place. Cellars a death's draft. I don't know who's the cooper. I think he's run. You know how many's out there? Many six or seven? Club YouTube can do whatever you like. I am going back down to the cellar, and you better decide as I'm gonna board up that door and I'm not gonna un luck and again, no matter what happens, this film is a monumental achievement for so many reasons. I could go on and on about the first it presented, the starter Romero's film career, the great performances, and so much more.

1:10:15 However, my words do not do it justice. This film is frightening, disturbing, in fear inducing. The black and white it is shot in only enhances that to this day, its scenes and images leave a mark on a viewer that you cannot forget. In two days, this film celebrates its fifty fifth anniversary of being released. It has had five direct sequels, two remakes, and even an unofficial sequel done by the co writer of this film called Return of the Living Dead, and its influence continues to this day in comic books, movies, and video games.

1:11:04 That influence is not felt just with the creation of zombies, but it is seen in filmmakers, actors, in those just getting their start in cinema. It provides a reminder that all you need is a will and division, because that is what carried George A. Romero to his status as a master of cinema. I hope you join me next Friday when we start our Halloween slate of films with arguably the scariest film ever made, the late William Friedkins The Exorcist, and then in two weeks we will look at the sequel to this film, George A. Romero's Dawn of the Dead.

1:11:50 To close this week's review, I would like to present the final scene of this film, as we learn of the eight that Matt, the heroic band, the lone survivor of the farmhouse for W M n H and Matt Connerton unleashed. This has been a classic film review with Eric Pilcher. You drag that out of here, and throw it on the fire. Nothing down here, all right, go ahead, down and give him a hand. Let's go check out the house man. Here's something there. I heard a noise, all right. N hit him in the head, right between the eyes.

1:12:34 Good shot. Okay, he's let's go get him. That's another one for the fire, all right, said the wagons room directly. I am w m n H rip the novel side. If you're listening to w mn H three, get command, gut, don't get so greenly down Matzille. Welcome back everybody, as we cruising our final segment today of Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios of w m n A ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six. If you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe.

1:14:09 You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact Infolk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Texas, Mike is at the newsdesk. Yes, yes, and I believe my dad is on the phone. Hello, Hello, is this a Howe Car show. No, I'm just kidding, Matt. I know it's you. Oh goodness. Now I can recognize my children even when they grow up on me. Yeall, listen, I'm doing this a little bit blind. You don't have a musical guest right now, do you? We do?

1:14:40 Not? Oh? Okay, good? Not good. But congratulations on all the great musical guests you have. This week especially was just fantastical. I really appreciate it, and I know some of my colleagues appreciate it, and I'm sure you're worldwide audience does too. I still love Infinity Vein with that song angel I gotta write he's an angel I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's but. And there's another band mat from Germany that you interviewed. Well, I mean all the interviews have gone well. I'm very proud of you with that.

1:15:18 Thank you. I can't remember the name of the they were witty and funny too. The name of the band. But they have a song that has a one word name to it. That's great too. Does that ring a bell at all? Is it a Factory of Art? Maybe there was a three there was a German band called Factory of Art. But I think there might have been another German band too. It's hard to yeah, keep them all straight. Okay, Yeah, that's okay. I wrote it down somewhere, but then I lose my notes. Yeah that's me. I got too much going on, you know, that's a story of my life.

1:15:56 But anyway, just a couple of things I thought we could do. The Quiz Day, the True False Quiz that. Okay, it's fun, you know, and it's not life or death or anything like that. It's just interesting and fun. It's gonna be on basically philosophy and philosophers. But there's a you'll see, there's a key in it. If you can. I don't want to give it away where even though you and Mike or the audience may not be familiar with some of this, you'll be able to pick it up. I think. So. I just the other thing that was I wanted to mention.

1:16:34 You know. I love history, you know that, and I love philosophy and theology, but in literature, I love bell Litt and I just wanted to And by the way, Matt, you know, sometimes when I text you, I'm concerned about something that's been said that may be inaccurate or parochial are less than fair given the facts and given logic and critical thinking. But I would never call into your show and critique anyone I disagree with like that. You know I would you know that about me? I would never do that, And I would say too parenthetically your text to me about something that I was concerned about.

1:17:26 And I'm not going to mention the name of the person whom I admire tremendously, but you know who I'm talking about, who was a complex, a complex person. But here's the thing. If he grew in office, and I'm gonna tell a little no, I can't do that either. I was going to tell you a little joke about him about it. I can't do that because I know I like I could tell it with you know what I could do. I could tell it without saying who it is. I just say it's the leader of it was a leader of a country. How about well you could I why not say who it is?

1:18:00 What's it matter? Okay? As long as I don't. I don't want to offend anybody. I don't want ever to. I may disagree with a guest that comes on, for example, Yeah, well I may agree with them. You've had many guests I agree with, sure, but I just don't want to offend them or the spirit of the show. So you think it's okay to mention the leader, Well, sure, I mean, look, part of the spirit of the show is open dialogue and discussion and uh, you know, so you can you can critique. If somebody says something you want to respond to, feel free to critique it.

1:18:38 I mean that that that that individual would certainly uh and has in the past, you know, critique things that you've said. And you know, it's all you know, everybody, I encourage everybody to be open and just you know, express express yourselves. You know, that's that's how the show works. So you know, it's nothing to be uh. I mean, I appreciate it. I understand you're trying to be very respectful everything. But at the same time, if you want to respond to something somebody said that you don't agree with, that's fine.

1:19:03 That's part of what we do, you know. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I would still be you know, my philosophy is I would still be very careful and courteous with that. Sure, but so let me let me just say so, I'll tell the joke. But they're in history in history, well, in history, yes, But what I'm getting at is historians, like I love certain historians. Some of your guests may know these people and some may not. That's it's fine. But Henry Steele Commnger was a great historian and I was a big sand and follower of him.

1:19:39 It's almost like, you know, these guys are rock stars sometimes. But he's passed away now. But he was an expert on Winston Churchill and great American history. And Howard Zen. You know, I don't agree with he's past two, but I don't agree with Howard Zen on a lot of Apolo. So he was a neo Marxist. Wouldn't always talk about that, but he was. And but he wrote a great book, The People's History of America, and I admire him. To David barton Is as a historian, I left, but I won't get it. But my point is this, there is a structure, an intellectual structure and research structure, and in a world in American in history for historians, it's called presentism.

1:20:29 And what that means is it's it's the critique of a critique. It's a critique of the ideation or the value system, or the or the or the mental system. That would look at history, look at the Civil War for example, or look at the founding fathers for example in America. We could do this worldwide.

1:20:59 Uh, you know, but you can make distinctions between, for example, very evil people on a moral plane like Hitler and Mussolini, those types. Or at Till of the Hun Chris pope Leo. I'm getting into a sidebar here. By Pope Leo actually wrote out on a horse to talk to at Till of the Hun. Now this sounds like I'm making it up, like it's a story, but it's absolutely true. And he convinced the Till of the Hun to go back to where he was coming from and not to attack Rome. Check it out. That's a sinking story.

1:21:35 But my point is with presentism, what they do is people do is they judge the people's behavior, attitudes, value system in a very parochial way based on the standards of today. Now, thank god we have not only in this country but around the world, because there are many exceptions to this. Uh, we have developed morally. Now we're in a place where we we the moral development may be capping and we may be regressing. And I'm not going to get into that because it's a whole other topic. You know where I stand on that, But it's it's has to with the league capture structure in philosophy.

1:22:24 But there there there are many scholars who would agree with my assessment map that we are now in a crisis in the West and we are decaying. But anyway, so presidentism is saying uh, you know, is looking at someone like say, great president like Lincoln and saying, yeah, but he he was a white supremacist for a while, in which he was, but then he changed, you know, he grew an office. You see what I'm getting at. It's just something to be very very careful with. Winston Churchill made some mistakes when he was very young.

1:23:03 He that whole system that he grew up in in in the late nineteenth century was a very intellectual system, but it was a hierarchical system that favored The good side of it was that has favored Western values of democracy, equality, development of thought, development of morality, things like that constitution. You know, they looked at our constitution and said, hey, that's pretty good. So which, by the way, on September seventeenth, that's a that's an official holiday that we don't celebrate that's Constitution Day.

1:23:41 When I was a kid in high school and then in undergraduate school too, we took that whole day on September seventeenth to study the Bill of Rights in the Constitution. Public schools generally do. There are exceptions, Rob, that's a shout out to you, Rob, but but generally they don't practice that practice anymore. Yeah, I don't know when you judge somebody like Winston Churchill, who was not a fascist ever and was a man open to moral development and became, of course one of the greatest leaders of World War two.

1:24:16 Objective reality guys, don't don't minimize that ever. So

1:24:24 you see him developing. And one of the themes with him is that he believed in that time, not today's time. In that time that he was living, you know, in the in the early turn of the century, the twenties and thirties and the fourties, he was looking at what constitutes behaviors and values and attitudes that will go to the betterment of all people. Now, did he make a mistake with gandhe he made a big mistake there. But because he was he's what he believed was that that was premature to give some of these countries like India.

1:25:05 He was wrong on this, he was wrong, but to give India independence. So what he what he felt was too quickly, and he felt Gandhi was a rebel roster, you know, and he underestimated Gandhi's virtues for sure. So anyway, he but he he he grew in office, and he never his temperament was never to be racist or to put people down because of their race. But did he believe in a hierarchy that we would we would call in the pure intellectual sense, not in the sense of these wackos out there, the violent people, but a white supremacist idea ideation.

1:25:52 Yes, But that wasn't just Churchill. You know. That was the way the West was moving at that time philosophically, and the West would make that It didn't make that correction with the That's why I'm going to talk about philosophers today. Just quickly. Do you see what I'm getting at, Matt with President Chism? Oh? Absolutely? Yeah. In other words, if you if you look at if you look at history, and you look at specific figures in history like Churchill, and you apply standards of today to absolutely everything they did or everything they ever said and so forth.

1:26:24 YEA, then you can you can find a way to who to almost demonize really just about anybody. That's correct, Matty, that's correct. You've got it. And that's what great historians who was see. I can't think of the historian at you and h I've talked to him. Happens to be a guy, but he talks about that that you want to You want to see history, of course everybody would say this. You want to see history accurately, and you don't want to demonize people you want to see unless unless they deserve it, you know, like Joseph Stalin, you know, for examples.

1:27:03 So you want to see the nuances and the complexity and understand that. Otherwise you don't have a good understanding of human relations, values and history, accurate history. And I'll tell you even some of the junior social workers I supervise they do. And I know it sounds like I'm being condescending. I'm not. I don't mean to be condescending. I mean to be phenomenologically say, philosophy are descriptive here they don't have a good grasp of history mat generally speaking, you know, these are social workers in their twenties and early thirties, you know.

1:27:44 Yeah, and again that speaks to some of the lack of disciplined education and exposure to ideas and dialogue you are exposed to that it conquered high I mean, I was thinking maybe I should have sent you to Bishop Brady. Now as you say you're not religious, I'm laughing about this. I'm serious. Notes, But anyway, you received a good education there, you know, and that's so important. I did too, thank god, you know. And in my high school days, Matt, I had great, exceptional teachers, I really did. And I goofed around my first two years in the band and playing some sports and stuff and hanging out with my friends.

1:28:25 But Malcolm X and I don't get to all that. But other writers, Dedrich bond Offer changed my life one summer, and I studied after that, thank god. All right, so here's a quick show. So Winston Churchill drank too much at times. He lived to be ninety two years old and smoked cigars right up to the end that he was at this party. He gets he gets drunk, or he's he's he's imbibed too much alcohol. And so a woman was up to him from a very wealthy family and says to him, Minister Churchill, you are drunk.

1:29:05 And Churchill doesn't miss a bead. He says to her in his sarcastic style that he had. I won't try to imitate it. But he said to her, yes, madam, you have identified it correctly. I am drunk and you are ugly. I mean, he could be brutal. And he said, when I wake up in the morning, I will no longer be drunk. I will be sober. But you, madam, you, madam, will still be ugly. Isn't that awful? Yeah, but you gotta let you gotta laugh a little. All listen, I don't want to take us. Let's go to the quiz. Matt.

1:29:41 You're ready in number one? Okay, yea, these got true or false? And I know I'll do him and then we'll come back. Okay. This is in philosophy, the great hero of mine in philosophy, one of them I have many, actually, Aristotle. Aristotle one of his great statements in ethic says, he said it is good to know, it is good to appreciate, and he said you you should be all people. He would use the word and man a lot. He meant he meant, man, so all people should practice excuse me, all people should know virtue, but it was more important to practice virtue.

1:30:21 True or false? That's number one, Okay. Number two, we go to Saint Thomas Aquinas, one of my favorite philosophers, and he wrote on the Just War. He was the first official many wrote subsequently about him. He wrote on the Just War, and the West has adopted this these principles, and he so he said that you have to have a good reason. You can. You can use self defense, you know, meeting the nation, defending the nation, but you have no right. And you should never attack on purpose best purposely civilians in the war.

1:31:02 True or false. Finally, I'm gonna mention another uh ever ever Stillian philosophy here. So finally this is an interesting true or false okay, Jacques Maraton. Everybody said that with me, Jacques maritoncue merit just kidding. That's very good, not very good. Indeed. So he was a great Thomas philosopher. And Jacques Maritime was the first official ambassador to the U N for France, and forty seven I believe was forty six or forty seven he was appointed. So and he was a great teacher. I've read his books.

1:31:42 We we had to take full logic at Holy Apostles, and we one of his textbooks on logic. But anyway, Jacques Maraton had a friendship with an American communist philosopher. That American communist philosopher was, Oh my god, not forgetting it, Oh my god. I mentioned him on the UH before he was the author of our you can help me on mat of rules for radicals? Who were rules for radicals? Thank you God. I had a minecram wit him. I gotta take like six six ginko. So is that? So? They had a friendship for a while, and then subsequently Jacques Maratan UH came out against his print what what he understood them?

1:32:43 Was his principles true or false? All right, let's go to number one quickly. Here we go Aristotle. Did he say it is more important to practice virtue? I mean, of course, he's implying you gotta know virtue than just no virtue true or false? I said true. What do you say, Texas, Mike, I say two as well? All right, you are both correct. Almundo, very good, gentleman, very good. Number two. Saint Thomas Aquinas, who wasn't his Aristotelian two. But of course he was a Roman Catholic theologian too, and great teacher and priests.

1:33:21 But anyway, so he said, he wrote the first definitive Treatises on the Just War because some people were saying, oh, you know, if you're a Christian or in the Jewish faith or whatever, you cannot use any violence, so you can't go to war, you know, and the extreme categorical pacifist position. Aquinas said, no, that's not true. But he said, you cannot purposely attack civilians. Is that true or false? I said true? I said, I said too as well. Not confident in my answer, but yes, we both said true.

1:34:02 You both are correct. Am well done, guys. I think you see a theme here. The third third true or false quickly is on Jacques Maraton's relationship with Salolinsky. Thank god for Genko Blobi. I'm feeling so much better, guys. But anyway, so they did they is it true that they had a friendship for a while, And then subsequently when Maraton saw what he was actually saying, because Salolinski would fool you, because he would say he would, he would be like, does this remind you of any any party? Today, but you don't have to answer as rhetorical.

1:34:38 But he would. He would talk about social and economic justice a lot as the neo Marxist would do in the Grand Cheese would do. But his philosophy ultimately was very totalitarian. So is that true or false? With regard as Jacques Maratan and Salolinsky. I'm really not confident with this one, but I said true. How about you, Texas, Mike, I went false sexually? Okay, all right, Well it's good. It's good that there was a split there because it makes oh, that makes a little more interesting fundamentally, I believe.

1:35:15 Anyway, Yes, Matt, you are correct. Ol Mundo, Mike, You're off on that one. But that's understandable. It's a complex one because they did form a friendship. There were a number of Catholic priests who were I won't go into them, but scholars who bought into Salolinski for a long time, and then they were very embarrassed ultimately, and they retracted their positions and change their positions. But yeah, all three of those were were true. That's our philosophy for today. Well, very good, very good.

1:35:50 Well we are dad, we are almost out of time, so we'll have to. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I didn't realize that. That's all right, it's yeah late late in the show, but I appreciate the call. Yeah, it's you and you guys are doing a good jobbing and it's it's even though we disagree. We're going to disagree on some things, of course, but I tell you that Freud and Young talked to a button. I'm just gonna get you. Know you haven't mentioned, but Mike Texas, Mike, it's always good to see you on the show. I say see you know in a metaphorical but Mike, you have a lot of great posts on Facebook, and I always try to give you a heads up on that.

1:36:27 I mean it, thumbs up on that, yep, and I appreciate it. Oh, I know you're doing Mike. You're doing a great job. And congratulations on your relationship too. That's wonderful, Mike, Thank you great. Yeah, he's he's welcome, Mike, pleasure and honor. All right, guys, hell, let you go, Uh, good work, Matt. I love you all right, dear all right, Dad love you too. Bye bye bye bye now be well bye bye, all right, all right, very good. That is uh, that's my dad. Martin Connerton and all right, well we are just about out a time.

1:36:57 So of course today is Friday, which means tonight I'll be back from eight to eleven pm for Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C. I get to hang out with pol C and DJ Steve and tonight the theme is doctor Demento Mikey are you uh, because I don't think Doctor Dementos around anymore? Are you aware of him? Are familiar with him? I've heard of him before, Yeah, not really, not really explored any of his stuff. I know of him, haven't really explored up. But yeah, if I'm if I'm homo, probably listen. Yeah, very good, very good.

1:37:30 Uh you got uh any big plans this weekend? Any personal appearances to plug or anything or nope, nope. Working on a double shift tomorrow then yeah, yeah, working the Bill Bush so at the Lena Tomo night that that'should be interesting. Oh that's cool. I love Bill Burr Boy. I'm not going going so I'm walking it, but it'll be people are so irritated about no phone thing, so it's oh right right yeah, because he's he did a show last night in Portland, He's doing another night in Portland tonight and then yeah, he but basically sold out show, so it'll be interesting and seeing.

1:38:13 But it's been posted, it's been posted that it's a phone free experience and yeah, people clean first minute and white shone and whatnot. I am like, I'm I'm lucky. I don't have to deal with it. I just have to keep mine hidden. My mind doesn't have to go in the pocket, right right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, and then then that that starts to weena season. So where where you are during the shows, you get to see everything, or at least hear everything. Will you get to hear his set? I'll get to hear it.

1:38:42 Maybe maybe I'll pop out if I'm not busy. We'll see yeah, yeah, yeah, Bilberr, I love Billburr. I think he's probably one of my ten favorite as far as current comedians working. I think I think he's amazing. All right, very good, Well, Mikey, it's wonderful to see you, my friend. Welcome. Always a pleasure to see you as well. And don't yet tomorrow night at the Hop not Kevin Horn is performing live Saturday nights usually do the live music from seven to nine pm. So thank you everybody, who called in today, everybody in the Facebook live chat, and of course our friend Eric Pilcher for another wonderful classic film review of Night of the Living Dead.

1:39:16 If you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. Oh, I see John Hopwood in the Facebook live chat is popped in as well as Eon Venom four And hello to anybody in the chat room who I missed, and I think my dad mentioned it. So we'll end today's show with Angel from Infinity Vaine. This is a great track, so we'll leave you with this and please tonight retro Spectrum Radio eight to eleven pm, Doctor Demento. It's gonna be a lot of fun, very very funny stuff.

1:39:51 So there's probably some probably a lot of really cool song parodies that I haven't heard in decades. So I'm looking forward that to that. And thanks again, Mikey. You're welcome, all right, and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later. By everybody,