Matt Connarton Unleashed 9-28-23

0:29 You are listening to t lum and eight thirty five point three Get Command God, don't get so really Doe Matzille Goti, welllcome everybody, here we go. I thought we'd start the show today with some Able Blood, their epic track mental note, because their name came up a couple of times on the show yesterday. We had Hands of Spite in studio with us yesterday as our musical guest, and uh, I think I think they were a referral from able Blood and Adam Jocelyn from Able Blood was in the etch Atram, so I figured we'd play that track.

1:37 I know it's a little long, but it does to me. It doesn't feel like it. That's an eleven and a half minute song, but it's not like uh in a Goda Devita, which you know if you listen to the long version, it feels like the long version, but no mental note, man, that's uh, you just kind of become You just get lost in it, or at least I do. So I love that. Welcome Everybody. It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are five from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FFM and Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven.

2:07 If you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Did I say Comcasts? Did I say? Did I slip and say ninety seven again? I meant channel six. I can only say six if I actually stop and think about what I'm saying. We're on Comcast Channel six in Manchester, not ninety seven. Uh. One of these days, I'm gonna I'm gonna one of these weeks, I'm gonna go an entire week without getting it wrong.

2:41 Uh. We speed a musical guest. By the way, we have a great musical guest coming up today in the second hour, the band After the Winter will be here with us in studio and we're gonna play some of their music later and we're gonna talk with those guys. I think they're but they won't be here right at the top of the hour. I think they're They're Eta. Last I knew was about five twenty. Apparently they are stuck in traffic, but they're on their way here, so so I'm really looking forward to meeting these Guys' fair warning, it's gonna get loud and heavy.

3:10 They're not gonna play live in studio, They're just coming in to talk, but we are going to feature some of their music. And I really love it. This this track, fourteen hundred BC. It's called and it's so good. It's so good if you like that kind of thing. Not everyone's gonna like it. Some people don't like the growling vocals, but when done right, I think it sounds great. So and these guys do it right. So I'm looking forward to meeting them. So they will be here at some point in the second hour, so we look forward to that.

3:37 Let's see. Today is Thursday, by the way, so I do want to remind everybody, of course, Thursday is Trivia Night at the Hop Knot in the Brady Sullivan right across the street at one thousand Elm Street. They've got those delicious gourmet pretzels, they've got an assortment of craft beer, and on Thursdays they have trivia Night hosted by the Great Broderick Lang. So if you are going to join them, though I strongly recommend to you that you call ahead to reserve a spot for trivia, because that is a very very popular feature there.

4:07 Those spots fill up very quickly, so call ahead. But unless you're just going to show up for some pretzels and beer, in which case no need to call ahead. But if you want to reserve your spot for trivia for your team, I do suggest calling ahead for trivia night at the hop Knot if you would like to join us. Six zo three two five zero six zero seven is a studio line six zo three two five zero six zero seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton.

4:40 You can email me Matt at matt Connerton dot com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us a call at six three two five six zero seven. And by the way, I'm glad I saw this. I wish I had seen it sooner, but I'm glad I saw it before I got too much further. The hop Knot has posted on social media. Trivia is canceled for tonight, but we'll resume next week. But the hop Knot is still open four pm to nine pm, so so go go with there anyway, enjoy some pretzels and beer.

5:18 But yes, trivia and night tonight is canceled. Don't bother calling ahead. Don't need to call ahead if you're just going for pretzels and beer. Let's see. I'm just looking to see if there's anything else the Hopknot Scott going on this weekend that I should tell you all about. Oh, Saturday night. You know they have live music on Saturday Night, the great Kevin Horn, who has been a guest on this show. He is going to be performing there, so definitely, I think, uh, it doesn't say the time here that he's playing.

5:54 I think I think they usually play seven to nine pm the live musicians on Saturdays. But Kevin's amazing when he was on this show, he came in, he brought his acoustic guitar, he played a bunch of tunes live for us, and just a great guy to really enjoyed talking to him. But yeah, go to the Hopnot Saturday night. Say hi to Kevin Horn, a great guy and a very talented musician, and he used to be in a band called the Stone Road Band, and we occasionally feature some of their music on the show too, So really really good stuff.

6:23 Six o three two five six seven six three two five six seven. Eric Street is asking in the chat room does the hopknot serve coffee? I don't know. I don't remember seeing coffee there. Doesn't mean they don't have it, And I'm not really a coffee drinker myself, so it might be that they do. You know what. They probably don't though, because you've got A and E coffee right next door, and I don't think they necessarily want to. Oh, I forgot to mute my phone. That's embarrassing. Happens about once every couple of months.

6:58 I'll forget to me my phone. I'm usually really good about that. Yeah, Jenny said in the chat room, I think they serve or will get you A and E coffee. John Hopwood says, all bars serve coffee. Uh, that is not true, John Hopwood. And the reason I happen to know that is because when the last miracle and miracle on Elm Street that we did, that was that the bonfire. Uh. Jenny tried to get coffee there and there was no coffee to be had.

7:35 Pat told her, Nope, we have no coffee. So John says, for obvious reasons. Well, they didn't have it at the bonfire. Uh, Jenny says. In the chat room they have an agreement with U oh with and D Coffee. The two businesses are super tight. Yeah, so they'll they'll they might catch a coffee from A and D, but they don't serve. They don't serve their own coffee at the Hopno, So we'll see who else we have in the chat room and then we'll get into some stuff. Carol Za Warrowitz joins us in the chat. Hello, Carol.

8:10 Jay Fed of course from the great state of Vermont, joins us and says, good afternoon everyone. A. Jenny, as I mentioned, is in the chat and says shalom peeps. And of course I mentioned John Hopwood is in there. Isaac Banks says, hello there, Matt, good afternoon, Hello Isaac, Good afternoon, gen coffee. How are you doing, says Isaac Banks, easyg Eric Gagnan says happy Friday Eve. Yes, Isaac Banks says, I heard you had a band on your show yesterday was hands of spite. Is that right, Yes, hands of spite.

8:38 We're here. Great guys. I really enjoyed meeting them, and they played live in studio sounded amazing, and we featured some studio tracks as well. Eric Pilcher joins us in the Facebook live chat. Of course, you can hear every Friday Eric Pilcher's classic film review and this week it is George A. Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Shannon is on the line. High Shannon, Hello, Hey, I think all bars or whatever should should have a little jar of instant at least coffee, because maybe somebody goes in these places, you know, for the atmosphere and not the beer.

9:20 Yeah, I'm saying I do if you're not a drinker, but you want to be there and participate and whatever. Sure, yeah, so there, okay, okay, uh yeah, I'm saving something for tomorrow. Oh all right, Well we will Friday, Well we will wait with bated breath, bated breath whatever that means. I've never understood that expression of what it means either look it up. Well, right, Shannon, but didn't you get you didn't get Matt Juno's my mother is still camera in there? Huh. You didn't listen in the morning show.

10:00 Huh, I heard part of it. I don't know what you're talking about. They were talking about having a murder mystery thing. And you know, I have to I don't like fancy pants haters out there. I don't have a house in a garage and a pool and walls that are thick that I can drank my music at seven o'clock in the morning. So you know, I don't have a phone attached to my hip either, so it takes me a while to get to the phone. And but you know, but anyway, I had said, uh, a riddle rap is it? Okay? I know you know this quote or at least hoppy does I know this much?

10:43 A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma? Yep, I've heard that. I just I just found out who coined that phrase, just like a few months ago. I didn't realize that. Okay, Church show, right, did he right? All right? I have no idea. I've never looked it up. I couldn't tell you. And and it well what I had hurt right, I was greeting said that he had said that, and it was in regards to Russia. Now if that's not right. Then it's not right. But if it is good and hoppy, you will tell you if he's in there, John Hoppitt isn't there.

11:24 He said it was Chubby Checker. Who Chubby Checker? I think he says it in the twist? Yeah, not not the original twist, but in let's twist, you know, let's twist again like we did last summer. It's a riddle wrapped in in the enigma side of mystery? Huh. How's happy doing? I have no idea. I call him hoppy. I didn't ask him. I hope he's I hope he's well though. Of course we all do well, not all of us, but most of us do it. Hm. Well, sometimes he's cheerful, sometimes he's grumpy, but we love him. We do love him.

12:03 Everybody's grumpy sometimes. Mmmm. That's for Robbio. This morning, he's he's got to take a day off. Why is that? Because well, either the sound was off or he was hitting those keys hard, because I don't know, I don't know which, but he wasn't. He wasn't. I could just tell he wasn't playing himself. He wasn't himself today. Mmmm? Who was he? He was someone else that's set up. Probably I don't know, tired once a break, doesn't need flack, and once to get his job done, okay, once in a while. I don't know.

12:46 I can't speak for him. Nope. Is he in there? Nope. I haven't seen him face the Book of Faith. I haven't seen his name, okay, because I don't want to think or feel for people either, right, don't think or feel for people. No, you can feel for someone, but don't don't I hate it with someone? Oh I figured, I guess I saw it. Don't do that, right, don't figure guests or think that's what you're saying. Right, ask the question. Don't assume another word. M So, what you got going on today? Oh? Just doing a radio show?

13:25 And who's playing to Oh that's why you met. After the winter, we'll be here after. They're not playing live, they're just coming into talk and we're going to feature some of their music. And who's playing with the marsh code or or guitar string or something. I don't know that. No, see, I can't sense it is over again? What was that? I don't know what you're talking about, Shannon. You don't hear that. I hear so I hear a horrible phone connection with a lot of static. How about no, No, I don't well I heard, uh, I heard a couple of clicks.

14:10 Was someone tapping your phone? Yes, well that's not good.

14:20 No, it's just no and and I just wanted to say, I know he didn't take it this way, but bad another word. But I just I had his back. I was just you know, I didn't know if he's that is the weather a lot, he'd not easily have to stay high and bye bye, okay, all right, Shannon, right, good bye, al right, bye bye, all right, Well that was Shannon. Uh six O three two five zero six zero seven is the studio line. If you'd like to call us six zero three two five six zero seven.

15:03 Uh, please no loud sounds into the phone, though, if we could, uh, let's see, oh we're getting a call. Let's see,

15:15 all right, welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's this? I thought that Eric Pulture calls? Then after I do you can get a trifect a trifecta of what uh you can fill in the enigma of the trifecta. Okay, hey, is it true that ugly fat Joe the slob has been calling your show. You know. Well I heard him the like a couple of weeks ago or three weeks ago. But did he really call in like just yesterday or the day before that. Oh, he calls now and then. But we don't really, we don't talk about him. I made promises that we don't.

15:57 We don't talk about him when he's not when he's not joining us. So yeah, that's flatulent during personal calls as he is on his own. Don't worry, don't worry about him. What else is on your mind? John? I don't know, but somebody sent me a clip of somebody we were not going to was on the do not talk about list, and it just brought back gold antagonisms. You know, Oh, I see, I see, Yes, I understand. Is there anything going on in politics today? No? Nothing. I can't believe how Paul, how boring politics as these days?

16:47 There's just nothing. Yeah, there was really no, not really No. There was a Republican debate last night. There was, yes, a a vice presidential slash looking for a cabinet position in the Trump administration. Debate. Very exciting, lots of people talking over each other and interrupting each other, very productive, learned a lot some quarters of the media trying to push Nicky Haley. Has she got any traction in the polls, I mean the New Hampshire primaries in January, January fourteenth or the twenty sixth, I'm not quite sure.

17:28 Maybe Eric Kiltrick in Collin because Ayah was just before that, and I know he's getting ready for the caucuses. Caucus. You hardly know us. I don't even know not to caucuses, right, No, not kiddy, I don't even know. Are we still first? I know the DNC wants South Carolina to go first. I don't even know what the status of that is at this point. According to sources, there's not going in New Hampshire primary for Democrats because the DNC is demanding it be held at a certain time, right, and the Republican primary is going on first in the nation primary after the Iowa caucuses, which should have been gotten rid of.

18:19 Sorry Eric Pilcher, because they're just a debacle. Oh, I don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't think he'd argue with you. I don't think he'd argue with you. He's participated in that before. He also, I think he's used the word debacle in fact, but from what I'm hearing and nobody's talking about, uh, you know, the Secretary of State is only going to be running the Secretary of State of New Hampshire, which runs election, is only going to be running on New Hampshire primary day because that's state law.

18:53 So if the Democrats, because of the DNC, have their primary after Nevada, I think for the New Hampshire becomes third in the primaries, I think we're supposed to be on a Saturday. It's really it's all screwing because you know, Joe Biden never did well in New Hampshire, came in fifth in twenty twenty, and you know he's strong armed the party into getting his way. He's not going to be on the ballot new Hampshire. Our old friend RFK Junior now says he's going to run as their Libertarians. Wait, wait, his on the he is running as a Democrat.

19:39 I was gonna say. He hasn't announced switching to libertarian, although I know there is a there is a rumor that he might. Well, he's already talked to the head of the Libertarian Party. Yeah, and that's who he is. He's ignored the two hundred Democrats in the state House. People that aren't in New Hampshire and need understand that everybody in New Hampshire has been has either been a state Rep. Like your significant other, or know somebody it's directly related to one, yes, or has slept with one, or you know at least four hundred at least out a conversation with one at the very least.

20:26 Yeah. And one of the benefits of being a state Rep in New Hampshire there isn't much. You only get two hundred, one hundred dollars a year and you have to pop up eighty four bucks, you know for various things your license, played this and map, so you get fourteen bucks a year. Is during the quadrannie of New Hampshire presidential primary presidential candidates, will you know lobby you? Of course yes, And incredibly RK Jr. Has had nothing to do with any Democrats. And like I said before, you know he hired a right wing Republican MAGA congressman's ex wife.

21:08 They live in Maine. They originally from Orange County, California, which is notorious for a John Birch society. He came out of the math and they hire he hired right wing I call him anarchists, anarcho libertarian Republicans to be in his campaign. I mean, it's just what we'd call in the army, a cluster, you know. But the funny thing is there is nobody's talking except Arnie Arnisson. Arnie Arniston is the only person talking about the Democrats. I guess I have to hold the primary according to the DNC because they don't want to cross Biden in the DNC because they hold the money.

21:53 Look what they did the Carol scha Port or a congressman, incumbent congresswoman many years ago. They just withheld money from there. Why what was there? Why did they withhold money? They said that she wasn't going to win, and then she bost by like ten times in votes. Remember her and Frank ginto the old Congress. Yeah, I do remember that. Yes,

22:21 but you notice no dem We the of the four people that represent in New Hampshire in Congress, two in the House and two in the Senate, none of them were talking about this. But according to Arnie Arnison, Secretary of State's not going to hold a primary just for the Democrats. It's really hard to get information on all this well, I know that, I know the state law is and the second part of this I didn't know until recently. But obviously, so we have a state law that says we have to go first. But the other part of that law is that you cannot split the primary, so both the Democratic and the Republican primaries have to happen simultaneously.

22:57 I don't know why would this Acretary of statehold two primaries, right money that would cause oh yeah, absolutely. I don't know if there are any states that that split it up, actually, But because that's part of what has fascinated me about this whole conundrum is that it seems to me that for New Hampshire to allow somebody else to go first, everybody has to be on board. And why would the Republicans go along with that? The Republicans aren't going to go along with that. Governor Sanna is not going to go along with that just because the DNC says so.

23:31 So then what happens? You know, Well, Matt, I'm glad you asked, because I'm going to call up the Secretary of State's office on Monday, because you know, Friday, you know, that's a good day to take off, particularly in your bureaucrat. I mean, it's so boring even you know, you get used to those two to three hour days. By the time Friday roles are on you screw it right us in the army and you know, kind of kind of deureaucratic job. And Monday, maybe Tuesday would be the best time you'll be there.

24:07 Tuesday, when should you take your car and to get it fixed? Friday? You know what, the fixing it they'll screw up. Monday they'll probably be coming off through a long drunk. You know, Tuesday, Wednesday seems to be okay, Tuesday, Wednesday. What about Thursday? Today's Thursday? Why not today? Yeah, it's a little too late because until I started listening to Washan and I didn't even think about this, right, you know, because it was Chubby Checker was actually talking about the new AMBS or primary, which is an enigma wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in the soul of all you know what, Chuck berries, Oh, I thought you were gonna say the soul of America part of the lyrics song on one of your shows by yet another person we can't talk about well, called them Chubby Checkers, the famous Checkers stage right oh yeah, Christ.

25:06 You know, I don't mean to bring the Lord's name in vain on the crucifix the other day with you know, being a Protestant, we don't have crucifixes. We just have crosses. We don't have like the bleeding, broken body of Jesus on the cross, uh, in our depictions. But this is something we got to figure out. Oh you didn't know that Protestants don't have the crucifix. No, I had no idea. Yeah, I consider a crucifix is across with Christ hanging on it. You know. When I was a kid, everybody's a Catholic.

25:46 In Manchester, there were four Protestants the entire city, you know, which I was one of them, and they used to have those bleeding realistic ones, really literally gory. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm just babbling now. I think got caught a disease or something. Oh no, it's it's time to shuttle me out with some like some soft music or something. Oh, we will, we will get to the We gotta find out what's happening. Is there going to be a balance? Yeah? Never registered democrat, I keep yeah, I keep wondering about this.

26:29 Yeah, Arnie's a good person. I'm sure she knows that she's talking about. But good god, you know ye okay, Matt, you know, okay, hohm all right, John, Well, I appreciate the call. Yes, it seems to be a brain fog. It seemed to come over me. Oh that's all right, you're fine. Well, you did say you think you might have caught a disease, so you should probably seek medical attention. Yes, I was really looking at the Drudge Report. That was enough to make anybody diseased. I understand. But yeah, we're not going to talk about La grand darrage, all right, John, certainly that was that was Rusty stab, the old Montreal outfielder.

27:18 Oh okay, I know

27:22 it means means different things. Okay. I'm sorry I didn't call in and complain about the horrifying Red Sox uniforms when Kyle was on the show. But you know, please give me some credit for some self restraint and I didn't. Good for you. Yes, we're very proud. We're very proud of you. Take care, all right, John, Thanks for the call. Bye bye. All right. That was the great John Hopwood or John C. Hopwood, And that opens up the line for you. Six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zero three two five zero six zero seven if you would like to join us and we'll catch up with the Facebook live chat here as well.

28:04 John also would be posted in the Facebook live chat. I'm watching Morton Downey Junior right now multitasking. I saw Morton Downey Junior live. It was I think it was that kind of the height of his fame with the Morton Downey Junior show. Of course, Cisco's way back, and he actually did a tour. He took the show on tour and he went to the Capitol what was it called at that time, because they changed the name at one point, the Capitol Theater and Conquered and yeah, he would base and it was basically just his It was very similar to his television show, but just a live show on stage.

28:42 And he had this bit where somebody would come out on stage and they would pretend to be a local city official and they would read to him this thing about please keep your language clean, we don't want any profanity, and then uh like, mort would grab the paper out of their hand and swear at them and then crumple up the paper and throw it at them. And apparently he did that show, John Hopwood said in the chat room too, I was just listening to Howard Stern on a Monday show Belch and B and s ob while talking about Dana Plato killing herself after being on his show the previous Friday.

29:21 The prerogatives of the earstwhile king of all Media, Isaac Banks says, good afternoon. Hashtag Eric Pilcher, how are you doing? Maybe you can do another movie review of nineteen eighty seven Ruskies. I don't even know that movie starring Whip Hubbly Leaf Phoenix before he was Joaquin Phoenix and Susan Walters. M alrighty, I'm sure Eric will take that under advisement. Isaac Banks all so suggested, Hi hashtag Grik Pilcher, you have the list of the movie review of nineteen eighty eights Jack's Back, right, Yeah, I still don't know that.

30:10 I still don't know that movie. Let's see. John Hopwood says. Arms control advocates fear the worst and worry existing guardrails offer insufficient checks given the existential risks. Critics call self operating weapons killer robots or slaughter bots because they are powered by artificial intelligence and can technically operate independently to take out targets without human help. That does sound frightening. Isaac Banks says, Oh, now you're talking Isaac Banks. He says, Matt Connerton, I've seen a film of the movie of Revenge of the Nerds three.

30:55 The next generation is late Martin Downey. Oh, Martin Downey Junior is in that movie. I don't remember that. I don't know if i've even I loved the first movie when I was a kid. Uh, and the second one I thought was okay, and then it kind of degraded over time. But uh, let's see. Shannon is back on the line. High Shannon, Hello, Hello. I'm sorry if I put Hoppy into a trance or something. But sometimes, you know, I've said this before. You don't you don't learn if you don't ask. And I was just wondering if you know.

31:35 I figured I know the people that are on the Book of Face. I don't know why, but I think that John Hopper would know about if if Churchill had said that, or aren't it It's it's not like threatening that I need to know. And well, I'm glad not life threatening. That's that's good. I think I think it's it's a mystery wrapped in a riddle and side of an enigma yep,

32:04 or a riddle. Yeah, So anyway, I think it's it's them I put it. If you put it in an MRI formed, then then you know, you know what mystery something about an MRI. Yes, mystery and for mystery are for riddle? I do you spell a enigma? Another? Was it not? And I? Uh? Enigma would be with an e? Hey, Mr Reeves? Why not? All right? Who? By bye bye? All right? Oh, I got a request. Maybe he could, maybe Eric Culture could do a scent of a woman, or trouble with the curve with Clint Eastwood. Perhaps he perhaps he will perhaps irambulate.

32:50 Okay, all right, thank you all. She's so loud when she hangs up. That didn't used to happen? Six zero three two five six seven six h three two five six seven And we have a call. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Does this? It's John C. Hopwood? Oh, John C. Hopwood? How are you? I was talking to John Hopwood earlier. This is a coincidence. The sea is for Churchill, Oh, John Churchill Hopwood. I like the sound of that. Yes, it was Winston Spencer Churchill who said of Russia that it was a riddle rep to a mystery inside in the Enigma in nineteen thirty nine when Russia was trying to sound up the West for an alliance with Hitler against Hitler before signing on in August with Hitler, and then you know, carving up Poland with Hitler.

33:53 But you know that's politics, right. Incidentally, as I said countless times on your show, Winston Spencer Churchill is my seventeenth cousins through the Spencer's Diana is my princess. Diana Spencer is my nineteenth cousin, and I actually met her father it was my eighteenth cousin, not knowing that he was my eighteenth cousin. So I think that gives me a certain sense of authority. Like when I talk about vertically challenged people and called the midgets, which I just found out from Wikipedia, you can't use the word midget anymore.

34:37 The correct term nows dwarf. Yes, I believe. I believe that term became politically incorrect and unacceptable in nineteen eighty nine, I believe was the year. Yeah, it seems like a midget, because you know there's midget submarines. They're midget midget this is that? Do you think that would be the non pejord a word? And dwarfs makes some sound like something of the Hobbit, But of course the Hobbit was big box office making billions of dollars. So who to funk it? Right? I know it's such a tangled Webb the Spencer family.

35:16 Yes, I just want to say Winston Spencer Churchill was a fascist, Mdr. The man who saved the West and the greatest man of the twentieth century. I also put people like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Junior up there too, but you know they didn't have to deal with Hitler died so he couldn't write his version of the war. So Churchill, who was a great writer they'd been writing since he was in his twenties and won the Nobel Prize for Literature by the war, could rewrote the war with himself as the hero.

35:54 But he was an old fart and an old fascist, even if he is one of my kinsman, And would that I just say, Eric Culture, why haven't you called in yet? By all right? Bubby Doda, Yes, all right, very good. I would just like to say speaking of Spencer as I was always a big fan of Laura Spencer, the character played by Jeanie Francis on General Hospital and the inspiration for the song Think of Laura by Christopher Cross. Hans Smith of Sepsis in the chat Room says, I had the great honor of meeting Robert Downey Junior when he was when they were making the film The Judge in Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts, and the one funny thing when a crowd was forming, he said, you all are normal.

36:44 We all just started cracking up. Jay fed in the chat Room, of course, from the great state of Vermont says, what is going on today? John Hopwood says, we'll talk about Laura Spencer tomorrow. Oh how exciting, very good. Yes, uh yeah. It was a whole big thing. You know, they thought she was dead. The thing is she she was dead, but in soap operas, if you've never watched or seen a soap opera, no one ever really dies. They they come back to life eventually, there's a big you know, there's a big storyline where it turns out they weren't really dead.

37:19 And that was something that General Hospital used, a trope that they used quite a bit, but I think all soap operas used that trope to the extent that there are still soap operas. I think General Hospital might be the last man standing. Hans Smith says, I grew up on General Hospital L O L. Yes, Yes, I got hooked on it when I was a kid. I'm not I don't watch it currently, but I did for a long time. I blame my mother for that. She got me hooked on it. One summer. John Hopwood said, I was watching General Hospital when Reagan was shot.

37:50 Oh wow, yeah, all right, we uh see. I don't know. I think the band is going to be a little bit late, so we might run long on this segment and we'll when they get here, we'll get them settled in. We'll play a track and show some love to our sponsors. But or John says, or maybe I was watching it when the reports from the hospital came in. I first watched it in the early nineteen sixties. And Hans says, mister Rick Springfield, what a dude. Yes, he played Noah Drake John General Hospital. Let's look at now.

38:30 I did mention. I did refer to the Republican debate last night. Lots of people talking over each other, lots of people interrupting. I don't know if it's going to be mentioned. I've got a story here from NPR six takeaways from

38:50 from the Republican Debate. Just a couple of the observations I have Nicki Haley probably had the best night. I think that although she got personal with the Vake Ramaswami, not the first time. I think we saw this in the previous debate too, saying something about I feel dumber every time I hear you talk, or something like that. She just is not having it with him. I thought Chris Christie said something I found very cringe. Oh, let me see if I could actually find the find the clip. I mean, I thought the way Chris Christie, what he did at the end of the night, I thought was I thought was pretty good.

39:37 But there was a comment earlier he was talking about Trump, and I don't know if I'll even be able to find this right away. I should have had a cute up. But basically, let me see. Oh, I think this is it.

40:00 Let's see. Okay, So this is this is all the instances of Donald Trump taking fire during the debate last night, and needless to say, it's a short clip, because you know they all tiptoe around Trump for not they all literally of course Chris Christie does not. Ron de Santa's actually went on on Trump at one point. I was surprised by it. But here this is about a minute long. This is from the Guardian. This is all the times that Trump took fire last night. But the Chris Christie there's there's something Chris Christie said that sounded so rehearsed.

40:35 It actually came across as very cringe, even though I agreed with the substance of what he was saying. But here, let me play this. We've got to bring long and order back to this country, and not just in our cities, but we need to long and order back everywhere. We need law on order back in our suburbs. People are threatened there. We needed in our rural areas people feel threatened there, and we need in Washington TC also. And Donald Trump should be here to answer for that, but he's not. And I want to looking at the camera right now, tell you, Donald, I know you're watching.

41:02 You can't help yourself. I know you're watching, okay, and you're not here tonight, not because of polls and not because if your indictments. You're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on the stage and defending your record. You're ducking these things. And let me tell you what's gonna happen you keep doing that. No one up here is gonna call you Donald Trump anymore. We're gonna call you Donald duck. Where's Joe Biden? Oh God, that's cringe. I hated that we're gonna call you Donald duck.

41:30 Oh dude, you know what it reminded me of. It reminded me of immediately. And I'm not even gonna try to find this right now. But during the during the twenty sixteen Republican debates, when Chris Christy was being attacked for the hug, the hug with Obama when Obama came after Hurricane Sandy, when Obama came to survey the damage in New Jersey, and by the way, the hug that never actually happened, but it was repeated so many times by various people that at the end of the visit that Christy and Obama hugged that I actually have a mental image of it in my mind.

42:07 But it's like Mandela affects stuff. It never actually happened. There was you know, there was a firm handshake, of course, but because Chris Christie, you know, he did say he thanked Obama for visiting, and he and he said after the fact, he said, look, you know, the President and I we disagree on many things. But you know, this was months later. He said, you know, the President came through with every single promise that he made to me that day about how the federal government was going to help us.

42:35 He delivered on everything he promised. And I appreciate that, you know, being like a mature adult instead of the standard politician. So but then he took he was still taking flak for that during the twenty sixteen Republican debates, and he goes, uh, so to try to try to deflect all of that, he tried to get aggressive about Obama, even though Obama wasn't on the ballot obviously because it was at the end of his second term. But he goes and and come in, uh, you know, and come in this November, we're gonna kick you out of office, President Obama, like trying to be all tough, big tough guy.

43:12 Then it's like, well, yeah, dude, Obama's leaving anyway. It'll be the end of his second term. You don't have to kick him out. He'll leave voluntarily, unlike somebody else we've seen since then, he'll leave voluntarily. But Chris, he's like, oh, we're gonna get you know. So it's but yeah, that Donald Duck thing very very cringe. Uh. It just sounded so rehearsed, and it was it's just lame. Anyway, there's a little more so there's a part here where to see. And by the way, it's not that I disagree with the substance of what Chris Christy said.

43:47 I do agree. I just didn't like that the Donald Duck thing that ruined it, all right, And it just sounds and it's obvious that he rehearsed it. Okay, here's here's the rest of this. Where's Joe Biden. He's completely missing an action from leadership, and you know who else is missing an action? Donald Trump is missing an action. He ooh, now this surprised me. This did surprise me. Should be on this stage tonight. He owes it to you to defend and he got some applause for that and his record where they added seven point eight trillion to the debt and that was it.

44:24 Although that actually wasn't it, because there was so the Guardian missed something here when they put this short clip together. Because at the end of the debate, let me see if I can find the other thing that Chris Christie did at the end of the night, they uh,

44:57 no, it showed up in the search, which means I'm not the only one looking for it today. Yeah, I can't find the clip. I should have had it ready. I didn't know if I was going to talk about this or not. At the end of the night, one of the moderators said, okay, so you know you've all got a mark or a sharpie and paper in front of you. I want you all to write down who would you vote off the island if you could vote anyone on this stage, because you know Trump is the front runner and he's probably going to be the nominee.

45:25 I don't remember who said it, and they probably put it a little more delicately that I am. I'm paraphrasing, but basically it was Trump's going to be the nominee. You all know it. But if you could vote someone on this stage off of the island, who would you vote off? Now? Run to Santa spoke up first, and said something like, oh, this is childish. You know what, what do you want us to do this for? This is silly. I don't particularly disagree with him, to be honest with you. But then nobody, nobody wanted to answer.

45:57 Everybody got really uncomfortable. But then Chris Christie seized on the moment and he said, well, you know who we should vote off the island is Donald Trump. And then he went on this rant about how basically he said, I respect every man and woman on the stage who showed up tonight to this debate. And you know who didn't show up. You know who doesn't have enough respect for you the voters to show up and you the viewers, Donald Trump. So I say, let's vote him off the island. But it was it was pretty good in the moment, and and nobody else really got a chance to say anything at that point, but they were also terrified at the question to begin with.

46:33 So I thought that was interesting. Oh that Donald duck thing is hard to get over, though. That was awful. John Hopwot in the chat room says the YETI is fat shaming again. No, no, no, no no. There are things I like about Chris Christie, but there are also things, but I'll never trust him for one thing, because I think he knew, absolutely knew about Bridgegate. And there's also a lot of issues where I disagree with him. But but the Donald Duck thing, that's almost unforgivable. Almost I'll forgive him if we can get him on the show.

47:01 If you'd like to come in here and governor, if you'd like to come in here and sit down with us, I'll I'll treat a fair I promise, and I will forgive you for the Donald Duck comment. Oh that was so cringe. Chris Rose from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts joins us in the chat room, and Jay fed says he needs to be voted off the island. Yes, who Chris Christy. No, no, no, we can't. We can't vote him off. No, but but listen again, like I always talk about, none of you know, it's it's a I thought the debate was kind of an S show.

47:37 A lot of talking over each other, a lot of interrupting, a lot of arguing. But it was great theater, and that's all it is. None of these people are going to be the Republican nominee. It's going to be Trump. I don't know why anyone was surprised that he wasn't there. I remember leading up to the debate, there was all this old you know, is he gonna at last minute? Is he gonna say I'm in. He's got a lot long standing feud with the Reagan Library, which is where the debate was last night, And I don't remember how it started, but he's got a long standing feud with them.

48:09 If you recall, in twenty sixteen, he skipped that debate too, because they always do a Republican debate at the Reagan Library during the primaries, you know, when there's a Republican primary to be had, of course, when there's not an incumbent in office or Republican incumbent, and a Trump skipped it in twenty sixteen too. I think he had a rally somewhere instead, so there was no chance he was going to be at this one. The Oh my goodness, I just got an alert. Somebody's posted a video the End Times is now.

48:43 Oh. I've heard that a lot about the End Times being today or tomorrow or yesterday.

48:51 But and yes, it is someone I know, and many of the listeners are familiar with who apparently posted that video about the end times. So, uh, you know, none of these people on that stage last night are going to be the nominee. I think that you know, well who was there? So Will Hurd wasn't there again, second debate in a row, he didn't qualify for But I think of the people who were there,

49:27 I think that it was it was seven candidates who else didn't make it.

49:32 So just just quickly, so here's who was there, from left to right, because that's how the picture as I'm looking at. So you've got North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham, who I thought had a better night than in the first debate. In the first debate, he seemed a little nervous, maybe not ready for prime time. Last night he seemed more confident, more focused. H former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Of course, I don't know what his plan and is long term. Again, all of these people, look, they're all smart people.

50:03 Every single one of these people realizes they're not going to be the nominee. But there are many other reasons to run for president. Right, you want to be a veep, you want you know, and then so you can eventually be president. Right, you want to beat you want a cabinet position, you want your own cable news show. You're trying to sell your book, You're trying to raise your national profile so that you can charge more money in speaking fees. You're going to run for president again in the future, and this is a test run, and you're making connections and all that, right, So it could be any any number of reasons why you would run for president knowing that you have zero chance of winning.

50:40 Chris Christie, I think he might want his own cable news show. He's very good on television. It would make sense. Former UN Ambassador and of course former Governor Nicky Haley definitely not going to be Trump's veep or have a cabinet position. She's already been there, done that. I think that she's probably going to on again in twenty twenty eight. This is the prelude to that. Florida Governor Ron de Santis, of course, I think is probably running in twenty twenty eight. This is the prelude to that.

51:10 Vavake Ramaswamy, I think he likes being famous, not a serious person as a candidate. I've talked about how you know he comes across to me as the way I just perceive him. He seems like a crypto bro who's really excited because he just drank a couple of red bulls and he's about to hit one hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube and he's very excited. That's how he comes across to me, Senator Tim Scott. I do think Tim Scott might be a potential veep for Trump and or possibly a cabinet position in his future and a Trump administration.

51:52 So of course, former Vice President Mike Pence, that one's obvious. He's selling his book. He's got a book to sell, he's selling it. This is a book tour for him. He knows he's not going to be the nominee, and he's obviously not going to serve in the administration. And if Trump wins in some other fashion, And that was everybody, you know, and as as always, everybody tiptoes around Trump except for Chris Christie and De Santis. Like I said, he took that one shot. Oh I remember, now, who wasn't there Former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson because in the previous debate there were eight, so he didn't qualify for this one.

52:31 So maybe he'll be the first to drop out. Or Will Hurd, who again didn't qualify for this one. John Hopwood brings up a good point. They live high on the hog while they're campaigning, spending the campaign cash on five star restaurants. Yes, that's a great point. Yeah, and it looks like fun. Yeah. You get to eat at five star restaurants and meet a lot of important people and have a good time and give speeches, and you get to go to ates where you say a lot of stuff that you can't you know, make promises you can't fulfill and whatnot, even if you get elected.

53:06 But you can say whatever you want to because you're no, you're not going to be elected, because you're not even going to win the nomination. So you know, there are other reasons to run for president. And it does look like fun. Let's look at this. This is from NPR six takeaways from the second GOP debate. Primary debates are about winnowing down the field of candidates to land on the eventual nominee for a major party. The winnowing process continued at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Semi Valley, California, where seven Republicans showed up ready to fight.

53:37 By the way, not to be critical of this article on NPR dot org. But no, this, this series of debates is not about winnowing down candidates to land on a nominee. The nominee is going to be Donald Trump. That's not an opinion, that's not a prediction. That's a fact. We all know it again, and they're all running for and they all know it. Every single one of those people on the debate stage they know it too. So they're all running for other reasons. So it says here just seven candidates took part in this debate, down from the eight last month in Milwaukee after former governor of Arkansas, Governor Asa Hutchinson failed to qualify.

54:20 This time, there's less than four months before the first nominating contest in Iowa on jan fifteen. By the way, do you remember in twenty sixteen there were so many candidates who were qualifying. See, the RNC has really moved the goalposts here to make it harder. There were so many candidates in twenty sixteen running for the Republican nomination that they had, at least for the first few they would actually have two sets of debates. And I called it at the time the Kids Table. They had the kids table debates and the adults table debates, you know, just like during the holidays, So they would have the kids table debate first, you know, all the candidates who absolutely totally had no shot.

55:01 It's hard to remember who was at the kid's table debates because it was a kid's table. The only one that really stands out to me is a Senator Lindsey Graham. He was at the kid's table because you know, these are for the people pulling it like one percent. And then they had the adults stable, which was you know, obviously Trump and Christy and Rubio and Kasak and all the others. John Hopwood says it's unlikely that Trump would serve a full term after being elected, so the GOP VEEP nominee might be the forty eighth president, and John says, yes, Lindsay Graham at the kid's table.

55:37 Uh. Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont joins this and says, hey, guys, hey, Melanie, let's see it. Says here again, this is from NPR. That made for a debate that was at times unruly, with the three moderators struggling to control the conversation as candidates talked and shouted over each other. North Dakota Governor Doug Bergham, at the bottom of the pack and current polls and the last to qualify to appear in the debate, tried to elbow his way into more airtime, jumping in answer a question about childcare out of turn before moderator Dana Perino of Fox News cut him off.

56:11 The debate wrapped up with a surprising moment of decorum when the candidates refused to answer a single question posed by Perino, who asked each candidate to single out one rival who should be voted off the island. Florida Governor Rondy Sanders box saying, quote, I think that's disrespectful to my fellow competitors unquote. Former Governor Chris Christy visibly indicated his agreement. Christi eventually said that he would quote vote Donald Trump off the island right now. Every person on this stage has shown respect for Republican voters une by showing up.

56:45 Christy added, adding that Trump has divided the country and divided families. Yeah, that was interesting, by the way, I'll find that clip and I'll play it on tomorrow's show. Christy talked about it, surprised me actually, but he talked about the division, like he talked about the how divisive Trump is in terms of how you know people even in you know, in their own families, they have family members who you know, their relationships are strained with now because because of Trump, because they disagree about Trump.

57:17 Trump is so divisive now. I have a lot of feelings about that, but I'll leave that to the side. But but it was interesting to hear Christie talk about that actually. So some other takeaways from last night's debate, It says Haley on fire again. Yeah, I think she acquitted herself well. And I think there was a pole right after the debate that showed a lot of viewers felt that she won, you know, to the extent that there could be a winner again. The debate was kind of an s show, it says former South Carolina Governor Nicky Haley, who's been gaining ground, particularly in New Hampshire and outpacing de Santis in some key polls, showed up with gloves off.

57:58 She sparred with both the Santis and South Carolina Senator Tim Scott over energy policy. During a heated exchange about how to regulate social media used by teens, Haley told entrepreneur of the Vake Ramaswamy what will perhaps be the single most memorable line. Quote, every time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber unquote. Ramaswamy responded by complaining about the fruitlessness of personal attacks, as a discussion descended into yet another shouting match between the moderators and candidates.

58:28 In an apparent sign that Trump us Haley as a potential threat is campaign released a statement before the debate even ended, attempting to lessen her credibility, calling her week on immigration. By the way, that is interesting to me that the campaign would even bother to do that. Trump will participate in these debates. He wants to remain above the fright. By the way, as much as you know, I'm no fan of Trump, as listeners know, but I do think that politically it is smart for Trump to stay out of the debates.

58:56 People are still, you know, wondering even today, what about the next debate? Maybe Trump will show up for the next one. Guys, I got news for you. Trump will not show up for a single Republican primary debate. He will not. He's not coming to any of these. He has no reason to. There's just no reason to He's going to be the nominee. He can cruise. There's no reason for him to show up at any of these debates. He has nothing to gain from it, and he knows that, so, you know, we can we can forget about that.

59:28 But I am surprised that they bothered to. I mean, do they actually see NICKI Haley as a threat? That does surprise me. If that is the case, Let's see, the front runner was absent but not ignored. Instead of attending the debate, Trump held a rally in Michigan at a non union auto parts manufacturing plant. The visit seemed designed to contrast with President Biden's decision to join out. Okay, we know about that. I'm gonna skip down here. Actually, yeah, we already covered that because I played the those clips.

1:00:01 Okay, next takeaway. China is the foreign policy thread through all things. China loomed large throughout the debate, whether the topic was its dominance in the energy and technology sectors, its role in the flow of fentanol into the US, efforts to control Taiwan, and friendliness between Chinese President Jijing Ping and Russian President Vladimir Putin amid Russia's ongoing war against Ukraine. Haley called for ending normal trade relations with China until the fentanol supplies cut off, and said quote, a win for Russia is a win for China.

1:00:33 Ute Chrissie hit on similar themes, warning of alliances between China and Russia, same quote. If we give him any of Ukraine, next will be Poland unquote. And by the way, it's and I think Chris Christy has been very good on that, as well as Nikki Haley and some others. And it's it's important to point that out because there are some Republicans who would very much like to abandon Ukraine. There's very much a split in the Republican Party on that subject. One thing I disagree with, though, is the idea, and I think it's just being said for rhetoric.

1:01:08 I don't know how many people who say this actually believe it. The idea that Poland is next or would be next, or could be next, or would have been next had we not supplied Ukraine with help, that I don't believe. I don't believe that Vladimir Putin ever had an idea of taking Ukraine and then moving on to Poland because Poland is NATO and that was not going to happen. So I just don't a little bit of a side note, But I've never bought into that idea that NATO, that Putin was going to take Ukraine and then try to attack NATO.

1:01:47 That would be pretty insane, you know, assuming that Putin is still a rational actor of sane mind. That would be World War three, that would wind up in a nuclear exchange. So I don't believe. I don't believe that that was ever on the menu. But it's a good talking point. I suppose if you support Ukraine, I support Ukraine also, and I support our helping Ukraine. But you're never gonna hear me say while we have to help Ukraine because Poland is next. I would never say that, just because to me, it's not honest.

1:02:15 I don't think that's true. I'll give you my argument for why we need to help Ukraine, but I'm not gonna start spouting off about well, other NATO countries could be attacked by Russia. I mean, that would be suicidal of Vladimir Putin to do that. So anyway, next takeaway, I'm gonna try to speed through these because I think the band is arriving soon. The fading memory of Ronald Reagan. This is something we've talked about on the show. By the way, people used to evoke Reagan all the time until Trump showed up, and then all of a sudden, they had a new hero.

1:02:50 Republicans used to evoke Reagan all the time. The debate was held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, and the event opened with iconic images and from the fortieth president. Several questions referred to Reagan, who has taken on a near mythical status among some in the party. Candidates, including Senator Scott and former Vice President Mike Pence, have invoked his name on the campaign trail, with Pence seeking to differentiate the Party of Reagan from the Party of Trump.

1:03:18 Even so, more than forty years have passed since Reagan took office, and it's unclear how much that image will continue to resonate with younger voters with little or no memory of him. That's in a party that is struggling to win over young voters, a key demographic in the upcoming general election. This was weird and I didn't like it. Sleeping with teachers one of the weirder lines of discussion surrounded that's right, politicians quote sleeping with teachers. Spoiler alert the teachers and questions were their wives.

1:03:52 But don't let that get in the way of a good snarky quip. During a conversation about the power of teachers teacher unions, Christy attacked President Biden, saying, quote, when you have the president of the United States sleeping with a member of the teachers union, there is no chance that you could take the stranglehold away unquote. First Lady Jill Biden has spent her career as an educator. Several minutes later, Pence followed up by joking that he has been quote sleeping with a teacher for thirty eight years unquote.

1:04:17 But he did make the distinction that his wife, a former Second Lady Karen Pence, is not a union educator. Still, good luck getting those images out of your head. Yeah, and that's why I didn't like that. All Right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a break and I'm gonna play this is of the tracks that they sent us, because, like I said, I believe the guys are going to be arriving shortly, so we'll take our break now. This is fourteen hundred BC. This is just an epic epic song. I love this.

1:04:52 This is of course from the band After the Winter, who are our musical guests today. If you're just jo us, my understanding is they are on their way, but they are stuck in traffic, so hopefully they will arrive soon. I'm really looking forward to meeting them. I love their sound. Great band. I should warn you though, it's about to get loud and it's about to get heavy. But check this out. This is fourteen hundred BC and the band is After the Winter. Yeah. And they had to have any sort or word you had intention to any man, and the thing I thought out and yet the sense to go shorts not by side ride what dry work more t morn time T sulight that side light time

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1:19:00 Welcome back everybody as we cruising our final segment today of Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire also on Comcast channel six. If you're in Manchester and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infosh archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Thursday, September twenty eight, twenty twenty three, and our musical guests are here in studio with us.

1:19:30 We have after the winter. How are you guys? Or or we have most of the band anyway, right, we're missing four of this now do you want to make up an amusing and perhaps mildly but radio friendly story for why the other person isn't here? He's up in a bucket right now, he's working, working traffically. I gotcha our lead guitar player. Yeah, Chad Mayors, he's here in spirit. Yeah, you might try to call in. Actually, we are all oh, very cool, very cool. And by the way, and for those of you watching online, you'll be able to see if I face this way, the camera can pick it up.

1:20:13 So these guys brought a couple of shirts and I love it. Very cool. Yeah, we got some March coming out pretty soon, very soon. Yeah. Oh, I should put the camera on you two because you've got you've got some brand new merch you're wearing there. You can really see that it's it's uh, it's in yellow. Yeah, very cool. I dig the logos. Yes, the uh I've I've I've had sleep paralysis before. Yeah, very nice, very nice. By the way, Tom Blanchard in the chat room said, a good song, but hard to whistle to.

1:20:55 Fair and Melanie, our friend from Vermont, says, this sounds like the song we used to sing to our kids before they went to sleep. That I actually I actually played that from my kids when they go to sleep. Very nice. That's why they never sleep. Jay Fed says, Now that's a beard, that's a that's a trimmed. So I just got a trimmed today. Actually, that's funny. So yesterday on the show we had Hands of Spite. I don't know if you guys know that band, I've heard of them, but the gentleman who was at the news desk yesterday I also had a big beard, like yes, absolutely, well, let's do this.

1:21:34 So let's start at the news desk, and if you can each tell us who you are and what you do in the band. All right, So my name is Chris. I'm the vocalist of After the Winter, an original member, all right, And on the couch, I'm Cody. I'm rhythm guitar. I'm the newest member to the band. I was a fan of the band when I was younger. My best friend Chad was, you know, lead guitar, and uh, you know, when they got back together, they had me try out. And here I am, oh, very cool, very cool, and you I am Nick.

1:22:07 I am the drummer. I play the skins. I'm also an original member, yes sir, Yeah, we're back after a little hiatus. But cool, cool, better than ever I think. And in the chair, my name is Matt. I played bass and uh, when he originally asked me i was joined the band, I said, though, ye, second time I said yes, and here we are very good. Tell he's the bass player too, because you hear his voice very clearly. Yeah. Well, so we have some a couple of things in common. So my name, of course is Matt, and I'm also a basically great name.

1:22:42 Oh there we go, Jam later, Yes, yea, why did so? Now I'm curious why did you say no? The first time? I just had a lot going on. I was in a couple of different bands, and uh, I wasn't sure. But then I thought about it and I was like, well, I'd gladly drop other bands for this band. Yeah. Yeah, works out well. After hearing the track you guys sent me, I think he made the right choice because because I love what you're doing. In fact, what was the song? I want to make sure I'm talking about the right one.

1:23:09 Oh yeah, fourteen hundred BC. Yes, I was playing that in the car today and there's a couple of points in that in that and I think it's the bass notes that are doing it. There's a couple of points in that song where I feel it in my stomach. Yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. I love that you just said. Yeah that's great. Yeah, real like to hear that. Yeah, Yeah, really good stuff. Chris. You do all the vocals or I do? Yes, I do cleans and I do the screaming. It's your Your approach is interesting. I don't know if anyone is pointing this out before, but you know, very often in bands where you've got you know, you've got the aggressive vocals and the clean vocals.

1:23:44 It's it's usually it's usually more of the clean vocals and then you and then you hear a little bit of the aggressive vocals. But do it the other way, you do it the other way. Yeah, that's interesting. Oh, we thought it's nice to break it up once in a while. And you know, these guys heard me singing. They're like, oh my gosh, you're the voice of an angel. Yeah. Yeah, there's actually great bread crumbs. Yeah yeah. It does have guest vocals from the original guitar player from the band, who's Mike String who wrote Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's an epic track.

1:24:14 Thank you for making that. I love that absolutely. That seems to be the popular one people will always point out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool. And uh are you all you're from the Boston area or oh no, I'm sorry, you said Western mass Springfield. Okay, yeah, I'm living in the Boston area right now, okay, okay, yeah. Now are you're gonna be at Swarmy festis year? Yeah? Oh yeah, excellent, excellent, yep. Jenny and I will be there representing and really looking we're really looking forward to that.

1:24:46 Absolutely. Actually just texted Will from Sepsis. We're supposed to maybe grab something to eat after this. Oh, very cool. Yeah, yeah, Will's Will is a great guy. Sepsisolutely a great band. Those guys really good people, and they're they're doing a lot of great stuff and you know, they're really good at bringing people together and you know, well obviously you know I love what they do. Yep, they got a podcast. I usually watch it. Oh yeah, yeah, and they're so good live. And then they've come a long way too, you know, they've they've really advanced a lot over time.

1:25:14 It's it's been great to see. Now you guys play out a lot? Are you doing a lot too? So this summer we actually did more than we've ever done. We plade about thirty shows. Yeah, so this year we're at we're at thirty right now. I've ever played I've never been in a band before. Actually, Okay, while very breaking them in, they really are how long have you been in the band since? Was it? We're on there? Yeah? Some of the stuff is you know, it's it's kind of I mean, it's not like prog rock, but it's it's a little bit complex compared to a lot of metal that's out there.

1:25:59 I mean, was was it Has it been challenging to learn it or did you pick it up pretty quick? Or oh yeah, Man, some songs are harder than others, and some things that you think that are gonna be hard are actually the easy parts, and some of the easy the hardest parts are like just chucks. Yeah. Yeah, it'll just be some like breakdowns and rhythm parts that are just like you know, they'll be like it's Dune, Dune. We have that problem. We find to have that problem a lot with with lead players. So I think that Cody is supposed to be a lead player because our lead players it takes them forever to learn the simple stuff.

1:26:30 They're like, dude, I don't get this. That's interesting sweep all day, but like yeah, yeah, right, Like what are what are the live shows? Like, I mean, do you have any kind of theatrics or anything or you just go out there and play? I mean, because I imagine it's pretty high energy. It is high energy. We go out there and mostly just play. But like we have a Halloween show coming up pretty soon at the camp and Enfield, Connecticut, so it's gonna be like a costume party. So we're gonna do some weird stuff.

1:26:59 Yeah, yeah, not too weird. That's too weird to a certain degree. Yeah, we're gonna get weird. We're not that weird. Yeah, and you're not. And where do you record? Because everything sounds rightly? So we record with Ian from the Echo Room Studios. We actually recorded at Zing Studios, which is previously known as the studio where Adam d from kill Switch was the engineer. Oh no kidding, Westfield, Massachusetts. Oh wow cool. So it was surreal being in there this time. I mean we we shared the same equipment as like you know, kill Switch, engaged Devilwars product who wow, big bands like you know another one old school band that I was friends with, this Legia.

1:27:41 Those guys record ye oh wow, very cool. They have like a cool wall in there that you get to sign to. Yeah, we have that awesome. Now, how did you how did you make that connection to record at that? Like what in too picking that studio to So so we've been sticking with the same guy since we started this, and you know, we took so we started, we took like an eleven year hiatus. We had kids, people had things going on. Yeah, you know what I mean for real, eleven years. Yeah, So we just came back this year, no kidding.

1:28:18 So we just came back and we've been hitting it hard. You know. We decided to stick with Ian because he's just he's a great dude and and he's got a great ear for the music. You know, we just love what he does. We'd love how he mixes and masters everything and easy to work with, just really cool gets Yeah yeah, does he like you know, because a lot of times, you know, Engineer has become like de facto producers, you know, That's what it's like with him. Kind yeah, yeah, yeah, he just knows what he what he wants to hear, and we always agree with him.

1:28:49 So yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you say, otherwise he might beat us with a stick.

1:28:56 So we've recorded everything everything that you hear from after the just recorded with Ian other than one song. We recorded a song with Ken Susy from Unearth and Now As I Lay Dying Oh no kidding, Yeah, that that song is called The Hunt. Okay, we did that one with him. Oh yeah, we're we're gonna we're gonna play that one at the end of the segment. Actually, yeah, yeah, The Hunt definitely, by the way, where does the name come from? After the winter the best time. The best time is spring. I agree, that's it.

1:29:23 That's that's simple. I just always haven't anything to do with the name. So I always tell people I like to look at it is only the strong survived the winter. There we go. That's my motto. I like my angry music in the winter, then play it in the summer. Yeah, I like that. No, I agree, though, that's after the winter. After the winter we all come out and we play shows. Winter winter is done. It's a relief, that's right. Yeah, that's no. I'm I'm with you there. Absolutely. Can you guys talk to me about influences?

1:29:54 You know, you mentioned recording at the studio of where I kill Switch Engage one of those guys, which I'm big, big fan. I love kill Switch Engage absolutely, and I can hear some of that in your in your music definitely. Well, what else? Who are some other influences. One of my biggest influences actually Howard Jones from that band, So he was in a band prior to that called bloodisban Shed from Connecticut. Okay, ridiculous band. That's a cool That's kind of where it all started. This whole scene started there.

1:30:21 You know, it goes back and forth. People say Slipknots started it, and I mean slip Knots heavy too, but Bloodisman Shed was like what we do. Like, they're really like heavier than us. Often I'll often look them up. I don't know that, but that's a cool name, putting out the pieces together for like what they call metal core. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And Howard Jones, the singer from kill Switch, the one that they had knew for a while. But yeah, I know Jesse's back now, but Howard Jones, he was in Blosman Shed and he does He's one of the best singers I've ever heard.

1:30:48 Man, it's just incredible. Oh wow, oh very cool. What about what about you guys? Anyway? I love like the Acacia strain, uh yeah, things like that. Trying to think they played a show that I This was way back. They played a show that I promoted locally actually before they were like you know yeah, yeah, they're from town in Springfield, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I would see them a lot. I like, uh, I just I was just thinking of it. Ohno. Just listen to them. Nick's always talking about nothing. If you're listening Nick wants to play a show with you guys just me.

1:31:31 Yeah, So for me, I got a whole top five problems. But the one, yeah, the one that I would say is a big influence in my life and actually is. You know, we went to their concert and that's how Chad and Chris saw each other again for the first time. Would be August Burn's Red. So they had a big impact on my life. And you know, me and Chad went to that concert, saw Chris and they talked and decided to put back to the band. And I got to meet the drummer Matt that night too, took a photo of him, and yeah, that that band I've always loved.

1:32:11 So yeah, yeah, very cool. What about you, Matt Well? I came from a more death metal and black metal background. There's actually a black metal band before this. Yeah, the completely different kind of music, more Jurun. What about other than that? Other than that, I used to play in a band called O Rose Funeral. They're from Ohio. They were on meddal Bade Records, a tour with the in two thousand and eight. He also plays drums and just kind of why When he asked me, I was like, uh, I kind of stuck at bass, but I'll try it.

1:32:42 Yeah what happens. But yeah, I like black and death metal and stuff. So we all kind of have different influences, but we kind of put them together to kind of create something that we like as a unit pretty much. Yeah, yeah, works out. So many influences here. Yeah, we have a lot of different influence. By the way Sepsis is in the Chatirman says, after the winter is a very new England name. Arizona is winter. Oh depends on where our westyr gez California last winter, and some places had a worse winter than we did.

1:33:20 That's true. I didn't. I used to snowblower once last winter. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, the winter is here have gotten easier and they've gotten harder other places. It's it's amazing now the tunes that we've been playing, because I played a couple earlier, bread Crumb and of course our fourteen hundred BC. Are these on an album or are they just singing? It's our EP release, So they are on the EP. The EP is called My Wish, My Dream. We just got the artwork done. What you just saw on my back, that's part of it.

1:33:49 And we have somebody working on the the EP cover right now. It's it's almost done. We got some drafts back and we just had to make some corrections. But yeah, it should be really soon. Oh, very cool, very cool. And now so I have to ask you too about so the back of your of your hoodie there it's got the sleep demons as you call it. Ye, like, did what is that inspired by? Like have you experienced or one of you experienced actual sleep paralysis? Because I feel I've never told them about this, but I've had like that same thing happened to me and I couldn't move, isn't it isn't it awful?

1:34:27 Yeah? Yeah, I can't move. You just sit there and you're just like I wish this was over, but you can't do anything about it. You cannot. I can say I've never had that happen, So yeah, I know talking about that's that's good.

1:34:39 My experience with it. It happened to me like three times. This was maybe twelve years ago. But I never saw anything like I never saw like anything sitting on me. It was like I was alone in my bed in the dark, and I woke up at least that's what it felt like. I woke up and I knew somebody was standing over me. You could feel it. I could feel it. Couldn't see them, but I could feel it. And I was paralyzed, like I like I was. I couldn't do anything about it. And uh, I can't remember if I've ever admitted this on the air or not, but I actually slept with the lights on for at the third time it happened.

1:35:15 I started judgment here. I started sleeping with the lights on. I was like, I've had enough of this, and so yeah, so that image is that image is wild man. That's it's almost like if you know, you know, oh yeah, yeah, totally totally. But that's good, chriss. You haven't had to suffer through that. Yeah, not yet. Good thing. I'm sitting at the news desk. I think I think the beard protects you. It saves a lot of food, that's for sure, especially popcorn. I bet, do you do you like? Do you oil it or something?

1:35:49 That's what I put bomb in it? Do you yeah? Okay, okay, yeah, that's what Otherwise it's just be all over the place. The gentleman from the Hands of Spite who sat there yesterday, he said that too, he puts I think it was bomb, he said, he puts in his beard. Yep. A Miriam banishes in the chat room. She says, I get sleep paralysis, but now I know what it is. It just annoys me. I'm aware when it's happening. Wow, that is sleep paralysis. Yeah, it's it's freaky though, freaky stuff. I've had that a few times.

1:36:15 Yeah. Yeah, but I did have one time where I think I was like having a nightmare at the same time, and I did have like this like demon girl on top of me. Yeah, I couldn't move. Oh wow. Yeah, I didn't know if I was awaker dreaming. And then I woke up like the next day and I was like, whoa that?

1:36:34 But I like feel myself inside and I just I'm trying to move and just nothings look like kind of you know, it actually sounds kind of fun. Though it's disappointed that I don't. It's kind of disappointing that its experienced it once in your life, so you know, no, you really shouldn't if it's really not. It is not Actually, if you have it, I feel like I'm missing out. Like I don't know if you ever slept on your face and I've had it then and it's I can't breathe, like, because then you got them. I think you're just about to die at that point.

1:37:11 Yeah, but you're kidding yourself. You know. It's weird. I never thought about this before, but I so I don't. I always sleep on my side always, but for some reason, when I've had the sleep paralysis, I've been on my back at least that's at That's how I remember, Like I'm lying there, I'm on my back and it's like, oh, someone is standing over me. This is horrible. So don't ever sleep on your back. Story. If you're gonna get anything out of this, don't sleep on your back exactly. Well, I hope we got a bad hip.

1:37:41 Sorry, Well I hope we've helped some people here today with that. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I think we have. It is a it is a fascinating subject. Now, So, by the way, do you guys have any lyrics about that? Or who? Right? Who writes? I write the lyrics? Bread Crumbs is actually derived from the story of Hansel and Gretel. Okay, it's it's it's a song based on anti child trafficking. So I tied the story of Hansel and Gretel into it. And there's a part of the part where it says nibble nibble, little mouse.

1:38:12 Yeah, always nibbling on my house. That's from the Brothers grib Oh wow, okay, gotcha, gotcha. So I do all the lyrics for the band. Yeah, do the other tracks who they have kind of the themes where they're sort of specific like that. Every I'm a history buff, so I try to take stories and like tell the story and getting the person's shoes and you know, and and and put a modern twist to it. Yeah. Yeah, so very cool. Marie, what is it? Let the meet Cake Marie Antoinette, And you know, I tried to write a song about, like, because there's a lot of misinformation, you know, like whatever it be, whatever your opinion is, wherever it lies, but there is misinformation out there, and I just I thought about, you know, how can I write a song that's based upon that to get people to start paying attention.

1:38:57 Yeah, you know, because apparently if you dig deep enough, she never actually said that. She never actually said let the meat cake. Yeah, So that's what the song is about. It's it's it's my way of getting into her shoes and telling her side of the story. Yeah, be headed for no reason. Correct, that's interesting apparently, Yeah, they say, but that could be misinformation. Yeah right, you know you never really know circle Yeah, yeah, definitely. No, that's that's interesting. Where should uh the time does go so fast?

1:39:24 I want to make sure we have time for that track. But what should people know about? How to find you guys online? Where to keep up with everything that you're doing? Obviously swore me Fest is coming up in November, but anything people should know? Website, social media? Cody handle this one. Yeah, go ahead, look it up. Problem you got a Cody. We're pretty much We're pretty much everywhere we have after the Winter dot com. We have Instagram, Twitter, No no Twitter yet, Instagram, Facebook,

1:39:54 YouTube, Twitter, Apple. I can't tweet everything. I actually tried to make my Twitter into that of the Winter Twitter because I already got like a good amount of get on that, Cody, I want to tweet. It wouldn't let me change my name, and I was just like, what the heck? Basically on every music platform. Yeah, yeah, we're on Spotify YouTube. I did want to mention that, you know, we we have breadcrumbs on YouTube and we're trying to push that. We want people to check it out as much as possible. Yeah, video definitely smash that subscribe button if you like what you hear.

1:40:25 Is it? Is it a music video or is it? Ye? A lot of people don't know about it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Cake or Breadcrumbs is on it. But uh, the other songs are on SoundCloud as well. I haven't I haven't added those two songs on SoundCloud if people use that platform, yeah, yeah, but maybe on our main channel right now. On YouTube, yeah, I don't think it's ever ever. I think it's on the the distro kid. Yeah. Yeah, you might get confuss to YouTube. All all of our stuff is on YouTube, Okay, you can find it all on YouTube.

1:41:00 It's just there's only a music video for one song right now. Yeah, Jenny's just share a link in the chat room. Is that the at after the winter official YouTube? That's the one? Thank you, thank you, thank you? What was it? Was the nank Jenny? Jenny, thank you? Jenny appreciate that. Yeah, she loves the shirts too, She was saying on on because she's wwesome on Facebook. You will be available very soon, yes, yes, well she's gonna get one of these, so absolutely, Yeah, that's right, very cool. Yeah, awesome, all right, well we are I want to make sure we have time to get the Hunt will be the last track that we play.

1:41:31 But guys, thank you so much and thank you so much, thank you. I know I wanted to give a shout out real quick to alter of. Next to those are our boys man, yeah and carried by six Yeah good sandwiches. Oh, Anthony damm Bro, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, he says in the chat room. Remember the Bomb Shelter, Oh, I remember the Boy. Did you guys ever play there back in the day. I know you took about eleven your hiatus. Maybe that that might be directed to me specifically the Bomb Shelter.

1:41:59 It was a venue right here in Manchester on Eddie Road. It's where the Planet Fitness is now, not in that exact like it was behind where the Planet Fitness is. But I excused to plan a lot of bands and we splay at the Bomb Shelter all the time. Brings a distant bell. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all the all the metal bands in the areas to play at the Bomb Shelter. I've always wanted to have a Bomb Shelter. So yeah, we're playing here man, this is going to be that the common grounds. No, that's something else.

1:42:26 That's brattle borrow or something like that. All the common ground that isn't. Yeah, all right, guys, thank you again, so thank you after the winter and check that all. And by the way, if you miss any part of today show, it'll be up in just a little bit at w m H radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. And uh here it is. This is the hunt from after the Winter. Check this out. So we're very last, lay on y'all well

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