Matt Connarton Unleashed: B.F. Raid (Boston's Final Raid)

0:00 Speaker 1: I love it. That is Angel. That is bf RAID Boston's Final Raid. That is from the album Rated Again. This is Matt connorton Unleashed. We have entered our third hour New Marrow Trace Jenny is here as well, of course at the news tableted for and joining us in studio we have Matt, Bruce and Bill from bf RAID. Welcome guys, Hey, thanks for going. I love that. I love that. Yeah, great, great track, got a lot of energy and it's fun and uh, great pick to open the show. We'll play more, of course later in the show.

0:35 Speaker 1: But can I actually well here, let's do this because I want to make sure all your mics are working. I feel like I couldn't hear somebody. Matt, let's start with you. What do you do in the band? I play the Beast guitar. Okay, that's working.

0:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm responsible for the low end of the spectrum.

0:57 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent. I'm also a bass player, so we share this same name and instrument. Yes, I guess I should start a show. I should start reading. Maybe you should. That might be your destiny.

1:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bruce, I take care of the guitars, a bit of the keyboards and a bit of the writing, okay, okay, and Bill.

1:19 Speaker 4: I am the lead screecher, the lead singer, the hummer, and I do a lot of the percussions.

1:25 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, very drummer. Drummers not with us today?

1:29 Speaker 1: Okay, what what is he playing in? Is he busy with another band? Because well, because the reason I ask is so it's become a running theme on the show. Every drummer is in like ten different bands because uh, there just aren't enough. Aren't enough drummers to go around.

1:45 Speaker 5: I don't think he is. But these two are in.

1:46 Speaker 1: Another band together. Yeah, oh what is it? I'm curious now.

1:53 Speaker 6: It's called every Bitter Man.

1:54 Speaker 1: Okay, so to cover Okay, that's a cool name. Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that. Oh, before we go any further, so I'm gonna put the camera back on me for a minute, because you guys brought a whole bag of stuff here, so really good.

2:08 Speaker 7: Evag.

2:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love this.

2:10 Speaker 7: So for their bag is really neat because they're not even has a pocket on the side.

2:15 Speaker 1: That's like, that's amazing.

2:16 Speaker 7: Pocket is everything?

2:18 Speaker 1: This is pretty sweet? Yeah it is. So it's got the it's got the album cover on one side and got your logo there on the back, and I.

2:26 Speaker 7: Love your logo by the way. That's really cool.

2:28 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Now the first thing I'm gonna pull out of here specifically because we need to make sure we mentioned this.

2:34 Speaker 7: Oh yes, I'm dying to see this. I haven't seen the print yet.

2:37 Speaker 1: So this is the uh. You guys are featured in the November December issue of our our good friends at paper Jam. In fact, I saw Sheila Russo in the chat room, so congratulations on that.

2:49 Speaker 8: It was a lot of fun. You are so great to work with, and Sheila and Tony and John the just awesome people. And I really feel like we made some friends for life.

3:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're awesome them.

3:03 Speaker 7: What they're doing for for independent music is just absolutely amazing. I absolutely love it. But this is great. I'm so happy you brought that because I wanted to see the coffee in my hands. I really wanted to flip through the pages, so I'm excited for that.

3:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paper Jam is amazing, by the way. So I'm gonna again for the benefit of those watching online, I am going to flip to your article. But first, when I open this up, the first thing I see on the very first page inside is that sexy Matt Condorton Unleashed logo. Very much. We're very proud. We're very proud to partner with them on this. Yeah. We we had them on the show a number of months ago and just a great conversation. And what they're doing for the scene is uh is just remarkable.

3:45 Speaker 7: But that's like I said, like I feel like we have the perfect symbiosis.

3:48 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and there we go. There's a Freido in there.

3:52 Speaker 5: Fred.

3:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very nice. Congratulations on this guys, thank you. That's that's fantastic. It's a big, oh big interview here too. That's great. That is fantastic.

4:04 Speaker 7: If you haven't checked out Paper Jam, you gotta.

4:06 Speaker 6: Check it out.

4:07 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And and they're doing you know, this is an actual print copy. That's what they do.

4:12 Speaker 7: You have an online version and they have a print copy version and you can get that.

4:17 Speaker 1: Oh my hat, very nice hats. I do. I love hats. I'll put this on when we do pictures at the end of the show. I will I will wear that in the picture. Absolutely. Oh you brought us shirts, two of them, one for each of us. Very nice. I love shirts, very nice, Yes, absolutely.

4:35 Speaker 7: Very nice, very nice.

4:37 Speaker 1: Wait, very cool. These aren't these These are nice shirts. Wow, I was gonna say these aren't cheap ones either. These are really no.

4:43 Speaker 7: They get the full logo on the back and the full album cover on the front. Quite lovely. Yeah, guys really went all out for us. My goodness, you did.

4:52 Speaker 1: You did a lot of our guests bring us goodies, but you guys really went for it.

4:56 Speaker 9: Oh.

4:59 Speaker 1: I love that a nice BF Rayed mug. Very cool for liquids in the studio. What's that? No liquids in the studio, No liquids in the suit.

5:07 Speaker 7: Well you can have it in a close closed water.

5:10 Speaker 1: We can have water, well, two mugs, So it's very nice.

5:14 Speaker 7: I know what I'm having my coffee in.

5:16 Speaker 1: And Jenny's favorite thing stickers, sickers.

5:19 Speaker 7: I love stickers. I've always had a thing for Stickerstely and I'm glad that they've come back into popularity because.

5:26 Speaker 6: There's some stuff in the mud.

5:27 Speaker 1: Oh there is Oh, oh.

5:29 Speaker 7: My god, Oh that you went way way over.

5:34 Speaker 1: Now, this is a great idea. Oh so there's a couple of a couple of guitar picks in there. Nice. I don't want to take them out of the back.

5:39 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm going to be making a nice frame out of that one.

5:42 Speaker 1: And you've got the uh now, the the QR code, which this is something that a lot of a lot of people are doing. Now the QR code does that bring you right to the website? Does bring you to the album?

5:52 Speaker 8: It goes to a promotional site code here now okay, and that has you can play the music there, but it has links to Amazon, Spotify, band Camp, our website, YouTube.

6:05 Speaker 6: Yeah things. That's awesome.

6:06 Speaker 1: It's like a little.

6:07 Speaker 6: Hub and for us coming back to music.

6:11 Speaker 8: You know, when I handed Billy the cards, he was like, Okay, this is strange because we'd have to run around and get people cassettes right right now, you just slip from a card and it's done.

6:22 Speaker 1: Things have changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, thank you guys for bringing that. That's a that's.

6:27 Speaker 7: Amazing, spoiling, very spoiling.

6:29 Speaker 1: So now, so you guys, you've been around a long time, but it sounds like you had a long break. And I mean, Matt, I suspect from looking at you probably haven't been around as long as younger than my kids.

6:41 Speaker 7: Yeah that hurts, doesn't it.

6:48 Speaker 8: It's actually really good because Matt adds a real different perspective to the band, the music and just off views of different things, and even the way we with the band talk about the band. You know, he's like, you know, hey, you know, oh guys, you got to get on TikTok or whatever.

7:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, us up to date on the new lingo and the right.

7:11 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's down a couple of things, like you can't say that people are gonna make fun of you on the internet.

7:16 Speaker 1: Right. It's good to have that. Yeah, it's good to have be able to have that perspective of the band. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. When did you guys start? Well, when did uh?

7:26 Speaker 5: Because I mean Bruce, Bruce and I have known each other since two are three?

7:29 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, we grew up.

7:30 Speaker 4: Our moms took us to the same park when we were down in Malden, Massachusetts, Boston. Yeah, and you know, then we went to school and you know, kind of lived on opposite sides, but we got together in our teens and just started throwing things around and then we formally I joined his band with the drummer and and.

7:50 Speaker 1: A bass player back.

7:51 Speaker 8: In eighty one eighty one, okay, yeah, so and the bass player went pond. We were pretty much born across the street from each other. Yeah, so I've known Lens since I've known life, and yeah, we just came up with this idea. And I was in a couple of bands before, and Len's brother turned us on too, like Judas Priest and Deflipper And this is before def Leppert were really big around here. Yeah, he had come back from the army with all these eight tracks of like Leg's Diamond and a C d C. And ifn our friends are like, what's this a c DC thing?

8:33 Speaker 8: Yeah, and we just you know, loved it, and you know, we just decided we're gonna have We're gonna do a new band, and it's just gonna be the loudest, most obnoxious thing you've ever heard in your life.

8:47 Speaker 6: I think, you know, we hit that goal.

8:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the songs are you know, they're catchy, they're very accessible. I think you know what, uh so, so eighty three is that when you when you started, because you have that demo which is available on your website, the eighty three demo? Is that the first thing you guys recorded as a unit?

9:07 Speaker 4: Yes, it is, okay, the only the only Yeah, basically after that we kind of all.

9:14 Speaker 1: Went our own separate ways. Oh okay.

9:15 Speaker 5: I was in another heavy metal band for many years after that.

9:18 Speaker 1: Oh what what band? Erotica? Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay.

9:23 Speaker 4: Like be Afraid we played all over Boston Revere, yeah, you know that whole area, and that was more of a hair band kind of as a lot like skid Row, that kind of funky air band metal, yeah, you know, extreme things like that. They all wanted to move to California and become stars, and I decided to get married for the safer.

9:43 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, no kidding.

9:45 Speaker 8: And then I formed another band called ill Wind, and that was with our current drummer.

9:52 Speaker 6: So the drummer we're working with.

9:53 Speaker 8: Now and be Afraid is my drummer from like eighty six eighty seven.

9:58 Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, damn well, let's let's play another track and then I want to I want to come back and get to know you guys a little bit more and your history and everything. But what was the other one? Oh, Becky, we were talking about off air? Maybe playing that that's the newest one. Okay, Yeah, let's give this s spend. I love all these I listened to the whole album and I just I Honestly, I just think you guys are amazing. But these are the kind of songs they get stuck in your head, you know what I mean, Like like you don't you don't just listen and then you forget about them.

10:31 Speaker 1: They get stuck in your head. So let's give this a listen. This is Becky, and then we're gonna come back and talk to these guys some more. Bf Raid Boston's Final Raid. I have no idea what the name means. I'm very curious to ask you guys about that, but we'll we'll save that for after the track. Let's give this a listen. This is called Becky.

11:01 Speaker 10: Dad called her a trader at an instigator.

11:07 Speaker 9: She wrote in Boss not the asking tight dress, that is Tishue.

11:16 Speaker 11: Favor down on the frick was out.

11:26 Speaker 9: I knew there was no way she could ever protect me. On the poors of the.

11:30 Speaker 11: Brock were trying to red bake a chance day at home.

11:33 Speaker 9: But you one night with birthday, you can hot? Who was roady cool, staring hot? She with Bernie come.

11:50 Speaker 10: She had no mossa.

11:52 Speaker 1: She knew her role.

11:57 Speaker 9: No one can hold her down. Chuck, I know I know which she got him to check me and the boys.

12:06 Speaker 8: On the rock.

12:07 Speaker 9: Would child that make a chest all the chance? Worded with her day.

12:15 Speaker 11: On the corner of two streets, walk.

12:22 Speaker 9: To the wood, I claimed very she had no reservations, she had no ship.

12:33 Speaker 11: She was chasing the system, trying to chase the jade.

13:05 Speaker 9: There was no sho would ever check me and the boys on the rock?

13:10 Speaker 10: Child my chance? Stay all the.

13:13 Speaker 9: Child she's stuck at all and all the tables.

13:24 Speaker 1: Down with you?

13:30 Speaker 9: I go up blocking the waters. She's the one the die of the That's dude, there was no should never check me and the boys on the rock shot me a chance, stay all the child? Dying whatever.

14:06 Speaker 10: Had no shame?

14:11 Speaker 1: Again, I love it. It's got that big dramatic ending to that is Becky, Let's be f raid Boston's Final Raid. And we have the guys here with us alive in studio and uh, all right, so I need to know this. Where does it? What does the name mean?

14:39 Speaker 8: So keep in mind the name was the creation of sixteen and seven year eighteen year olds. Yeah, so we liked the name Raid. We loved it, and every time we came up with a band named someone had it. And then we thought ear Raid, like a I R air raid okay, and then we thought air raid e A R raid. We're like, no, we just like raid. Yeah, so it's kind of stupid for a metal band, but we said, hey, we'll just throw some random letters in front of it, like Ario Speedwagon, right yeah, so.

15:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the ari O and Ario Speedwagon doesn't actually mean anything, right, it's just right yeah yeah yeah.

15:18 Speaker 6: So out of the ear, we just picked b an F not even meaning for it to be like be afraid.

15:27 Speaker 1: Oh okay. So and but also if you say it fast, be afraid yeah yeah, okay, so that didn't even occur to me. Yeah yeah, all right.

15:35 Speaker 2: Everyone I've like told about it thinks that that, Like they see the website and like be afraid. They're like, oh that's a cool name. Yeah, and they're like that's that's it wasn't the point at all, that, right.

15:45 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just what are we supposed to be afraid of? It's like no, so no of us.

15:51 Speaker 8: So originally the name was bloody F word with an I N G raid. Yeah, and then we started to get booked and we started to get we like, obviously we can't say that on radio, right.

16:07 Speaker 1: Right, right? That is correct? So we just leaned it up.

16:12 Speaker 6: We cleaned it up to Boston's final r oh.

16:15 Speaker 1: Okay, which still means nothing.

16:19 Speaker 6: Good.

16:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a great name.

16:21 Speaker 6: It's just us and we've never had to compete with anyone for that.

16:26 Speaker 1: Name, right right, which is important and was especially important back then. You know today it's it's because of the Internet, it's very easy to figure out if somebody already has something. But back then, yeah, you could. You could run into all kinds. You know, there might be a band, you know, you could pick a name and there's another band and they're signed, maybe they just got signed to a label somewhere, and you have no idea because you know, until you know, until you start hearing their name, you just don't know.

16:53 Speaker 1: So it's smart to pick something that you know nobody else is likely to come up with, you know. Yeah, and uh so tell me, so, did you guys after the eighty three the eighty three demo? Did you guys? And you know you played out a lot and but has it really been this huge gap in time with the band or no?

17:15 Speaker 8: So, you know, Bill and I have been friends all the way through, so we would always see each other at weddings, or Bobbycue's at each other's houses and Bill we got a jam. I don't have the time. I don't have the time. Bill, we got a jam? Or we I go for Bill's I bust out a guitar. Bill would sing, get behind the drums or whatever, but I don't have the time. And Jamie, I credit Jamie. Jamie kind of was like you had you guys have to do the original demo Victim and Angel.

17:50 Speaker 1: Now who is Jamie?

17:52 Speaker 4: Jamie's the drummer, drummer, Okay, gotcha, And.

17:55 Speaker 8: We're like, He's like I always wanted to do those songs, go in the studio, would do him. And it was like, well, if we're going to do a Victim in Angel, you have to do crack the Egg.

18:05 Speaker 4: Well that's really not how that's really not how we got all it was. It was a little bit roped and doped me again. It was it was a little just jam you know nothing.

18:16 Speaker 5: Nothing, It's very casual, come on, we'll just do a couple of covers.

18:18 Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. And within two sessions it was like, okay, we got like seven songs ready to go. Oh wow.

18:26 Speaker 2: Like like Bruce mentioned, we're in a in a band that does covers, and we were in our rehearsal space. He's like a friend of mine's gonna come in and stay with us one time. So Bill showed up and did some stuff with us, and then Bruce was like, so what would you think about playing bass with us doing some of our original things.

18:41 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, this was a setup from didn't it. Yeah?

18:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even after Erotica. That was probably around eighties, Yeah, then eight.

18:54 Speaker 1: I own my own business. I wear a lot of hats.

18:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, very busy guy, you know, you know, raising a family. Yeah, and I got into a Christian rock band. I used to sing and play drums at a Lutheran church in Popsfield, Okay. And I did that for almost three years, and actually I absolutely loved it. Yeah, absolutely love because I.

19:16 Speaker 1: Hadn't played in a long time.

19:18 Speaker 4: I was briefly in a cover band after e Rotica, call Fighters Gone Mad This on.

19:23 Speaker 1: My kids were really small, Yeah, and we played a lot of places as well, and I know Bruce was, you know, he was off doing his thing.

19:28 Speaker 4: We never really kind of cross paths other than, like he said, you know, at a barbecue or a wedding or something.

19:33 Speaker 1: Like that, and you know we're sixty now and to come back to this is very special. Yeah. Yeah, oh that's cool. That's cool. Well we should play another track from the album. How long has this been out? By the way, this is relatively new, right is a butter month? Oh wow? Very new? Very new? Is this did you guys uh do this with a label? Or is this all DIY or.

19:57 Speaker 6: This is all d YI.

19:58 Speaker 8: So we recorded at the Record Coat in Boston, which any musicians listening, they're great. It's a nonprofit yeah, so they subsidize the cost of the recording.

20:11 Speaker 1: Ok.

20:12 Speaker 6: They have every piece of.

20:14 Speaker 8: Equipment you would need to use, from amps to guitars to drums. Which is funny because when Bill got in there, he was like a kid in a candy store, I can imagine. Yeah, And he sees the percussion area and he's running up and down the aisles like I got this, I got He comes back with an African Gembe drum.

20:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna use this and we're doing.

20:35 Speaker 8: Becky and I'm, you know, doing the hardcore punk part in the beginning, and he has the gembe drum and you know, it's our attitude. It's like allow it and he put the Gembie drum in Becky and it works. And that's been like an attitude. It's hey, just just try it. It takes us three minutes. Always play the song.

20:57 Speaker 1: Yeah.

20:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you came down with the Xylo phone in your hand, I got a little worried.

21:04 Speaker 1: Understandable. Well, what should we play next? I'll let you guys pick from the from the album.

21:10 Speaker 6: Yes, Schmo would be good. Schmo.

21:11 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, you would. Uh you had mentioned that, Uh, you'd refer to that earlier, Joe Schmoe any kind of Now is Joe Shmo an actual person? Is there any kind of.

21:21 Speaker 4: So?

21:21 Speaker 1: When I was a teenager, it was this It was this guy, his cat.

21:26 Speaker 4: He was a cross of aliceon Cooper, Alice Cooper and Jesus Christ himself.

21:30 Speaker 1: That's what he looked like visually, very.

21:32 Speaker 4: Thin, bainy, long hair, no front teeth, funny, funny, funny, funny guy.

21:37 Speaker 1: But he had this dark side. Obviously, he had some kind of a pass. Yeah.

21:43 Speaker 4: I hung with him for a long time, just you know, here and there. Yeah, and he just did some bizarre things. So I wrote a song, all right, and it's.

21:51 Speaker 6: Kind of funny.

21:52 Speaker 8: I mean I knew Joe too, Billy, and he was a very spastic person. So when we visited this in the studio, I said, I have to play a spastic lead that is all over the place. So that lead is that's Joe. But then we also added Matt space. Yeah, it was never in the original song. And then that interlude afterwards is another piece of music that we're like, well, we never recorded this before, no one's heard it before.

22:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we.

22:26 Speaker 6: You know, we changed it dramatically.

22:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing like it. Oh okay, all right, well let's give this a listen. This is called Joe Schmoe. This is bfraid, Boston's Final Raid.

22:57 Speaker 9: What different?

22:58 Speaker 11: Indeed a Greek no, not mad.

23:02 Speaker 9: His name was Joel. You file the past, the mornings to the name man.

23:07 Speaker 11: He was as.

23:15 Speaker 9: One would think, Joe wan beble mind. He had ifer someone else nobody took as a sign.

23:22 Speaker 1: But I saw the real man.

23:24 Speaker 5: The numb mask isn't.

23:26 Speaker 7: The way you like com.

23:32 Speaker 9: Oh Joe, someone thinking all your dreams, the worst.

23:39 Speaker 11: Who Joe lay and every game child.

23:44 Speaker 9: You want to be away.

24:44 Speaker 2: So much?

24:46 Speaker 9: You really have to listen.

24:51 Speaker 11: Where you gotta go, jump, where you gotta go?

25:26 Speaker 10: Last nights, his blacks a lax thread lasting a bradtop to.

25:31 Speaker 9: The back top bundles.

25:33 Speaker 10: Because of two different towns. And he's saying, God write the song. And I said, Joe, someone was taking all your dreams a week.

25:49 Speaker 11: Whoa Joey plays an africado.

25:55 Speaker 10: On one day he was going at the days time he years sometimes on of the I get fatal measlaugh that I knew all too well, shot.

26:12 Speaker 9: So much ERNI has no place to call.

26:20 Speaker 2: You.

26:28 Speaker 1: I was so inspired by that I had to change my hat. Very very cool. That is called Joe Shmo. The band is bf Raid, Boston's Final Raid and they are joining us here this morning on Matt Connerton Unleashed as we are alive from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM, and we've been talking and playing some tracks from the new album Rated Again. And of course, uh, these guys are the one of the features in the current issue of paper Jam, or the November December issue, and which is very very cool.

27:02 Speaker 1: How did you guys get connected with paper Jam?

27:05 Speaker 8: It was Facebook mainly, you know, they kept popping up in my feed, popping up in my feed, and yeah, a friend of ours in another band was working with them, and I was like, wow, these people seem really cool. Yeah, and I reached out to Shila and it we just immediately hit it off with Sheila and Tony and from there.

27:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Did you go there for the for the print interview or no?

27:34 Speaker 8: We It was funny because I felt like, was the pandemic all over again? We're all on Microsoft team?

27:41 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gotcha? Yeah yeah, yeah, whatever works very cool. Now are you guys playing out at all? Or the subject kind of came.

27:51 Speaker 8: Up off air, So once again, Bill will say never, right, like he was never going in the studio and he was never doing more than two songs maybe three songs. Oh Bill, it's five songs. Now, Hey Bill, it's seven songs. So and now we're going in to do a second album.

28:06 Speaker 1: Right so you are yeah, oh okay, cool?

28:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, But playing out, I mean, just be honest. I go to bed at nine thirty. I'm up at five thirty.

28:16 Speaker 1: I got a bed at nine thirty, right.

28:18 Speaker 4: Right, I think it's I'm looking for the right gig, yeah right, yeah, yeah, under the right circum.

28:23 Speaker 1: Something early in the evening.

28:25 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going to open for the Early Bird buffet.

28:32 Speaker 1: The blue Hair. I mean, uh so, like Bill, do you kind of do you kind of have the itch? You just don't think it would be practical necessarily or I did it so much? Yeah, you know what I mean. I know it's involved, it's a lot of work, it's late nights, and I'm just I don't have the itch to do it. I would do it under the.

28:55 Speaker 4: Right circumstances, Like I told these guys, Yeah, I've just got uh you know, I've got a ton of stuff going on in my life, you know.

29:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I'm not even gonna bring it up. It's just I'm a busy, busy guy. Yeah. Yeah, and you know this is a release for me. Yeah, you know what I mean.

29:11 Speaker 4: I'm not looking for another job, right so if it's if it stays fun, I will play out.

29:16 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:17 Speaker 4: But yeah, coming home at two in the morning, getting up at five, right to go to work. And not that I have never done it. I did it all through my twenties. Yeah, but at the stage of my life, like the creature.

29:29 Speaker 8: Right now, I hate rat or out. I'll probably take heat for this, But Bill sway. Joanna texted me and she was like, you got to get him on a stage.

29:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna steal her spandex pants.

29:48 Speaker 8: But as much as Bill's like, well, it was the right thing. I guarantee people, if you get go on a stage and you put a microphone in front of him, it's not like, okay, what whatever, It's well, me's wound up like the energizer Bunny.

30:04 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's like all over the place, and it's fun for me.

30:08 Speaker 1: I get the karaoke crowd going, Yeah, it's.

30:11 Speaker 8: Fun for me as a guitar player to be on stage for Bill because we really feed off each other's energy and it's the live The live Bfree shows were pretty wild, to say the least.

30:25 Speaker 4: I imagine, yeah, just before the marsh pit scenes, you know what I mean, we kind of had our own little marshpit on stage.

30:30 Speaker 1: Him and I. Yeah, the rat scala and oh yeah, great time.

30:34 Speaker 8: I think the best pull from the rat was my dad and Dad, I have to clean this up for radio, and he's watching us. I'm doing backflips off the stage. We're climbing into each other. At one point during the gig, I looked at Bill. I'm like, Bill, am I bleeding? And he's looking at me. He goes, no, you look fine, and I saw a little blood on my guitar. Okay, song.

31:01 Speaker 6: Then I looked this more blood on my guitar. I'm like, no, Bill, I'm bleeding. And what happened?

31:06 Speaker 8: I knocked a tip off the switch of the guitar and they had sliced me right here. Oh but it was so clean, and my indrenaline was going. I did feel it, and you know this blood, we're doing flips, We're going all over the place. And afterwards, my dad, who's non Bill since he's a little and know the bass player and all of.

31:25 Speaker 6: Us since we're toddless, he's watching us and he's.

31:28 Speaker 8: Like, I don't know what I blank just for it. I don't know what I blank just saw. He said, But the audience enjoyed themselves, and you guys enjoyed yourselves, And he said, that's all that madness. You must have done a good job. That was the whole thing is we would take like this party on stage and literally bring it into the audience and it was like the whole thing was fun.

31:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how metal is that too? You know, you're you're bleeding and you don't even notice it because because of the adrenaline.

32:07 Speaker 8: Jumping on people's tables, kicking pictures of beer across the club.

32:10 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah. I hear these stories and I'm like, that's cool. We have to play it, yeah, except it's stuff you couldn't get away with today probably no. So I have to live vicariously through their memories a little bit. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

32:27 Speaker 6: Even what we're telling you now is being cleaned up in Sana.

32:31 Speaker 4: Yeah.

32:32 Speaker 8: If let's put it this way, I founded an old rehearsal tape and someone left the tape player running. Yeah, and it's just conversations and an average day in the life of be Afraid.

32:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I called our.

32:47 Speaker 6: Base player Lane. I'm like, when I got this tape, He's like, burn it.

32:52 Speaker 8: And I can say if any of those conversations were heard, no one in the band could run for public office.

32:57 Speaker 4: Right.

33:01 Speaker 1: Did you guys ever get a I mean, it sounds like the show's got pretty wild. Did you ever get banned from anywhere? From playing anywhere?

33:07 Speaker 6: Or three times set the rat before we hit the stage?

33:11 Speaker 1: What are you three times you got?

33:12 Speaker 6: How does in that one day?

33:14 Speaker 1: Oh, in that one day?

33:15 Speaker 6: Yeah?

33:15 Speaker 1: What happened?

33:17 Speaker 8: Friend of the Bills, He's a friend of mine too, but more bills. He decided to moon the mass Pike behind the rat scala okay, and they were like, what are you guys doing. You're out of here, and it's like, no, no, he's not in the band. And we were behind the rat drinking beers. Yeah, he goes, get in the club. So we grabbed our beers and we came in the club and now we're in the dress room drinking out beers but they're our outside beers, okay. And another person walks in the dress room, what are you doing?

33:50 Speaker 8: You don't sell those. I'm like, they told us come inside. I mean we're totally innocent, right.

33:55 Speaker 6: It was like like this is wrong.

33:59 Speaker 8: So they took and they told us you're done. You're not playing tonight again. And then we were like, you know, please please please, we'll behave. We'll behave. So we're trying to behave. I grub a beer at the bar with my dad and then the manager walks over and I had like a baby baby baby face.

34:17 Speaker 6: He goes, what are you doing.

34:18 Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm having a beer. He took other beers. Where's your id Like an idiot? I left my idea at the studio.

34:24 Speaker 5: Oh no, drinking ag was only twenty back then.

34:27 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh really yeah, And I had just turned twenty, like a couple months earlier, and I'm like he's like, that's it.

34:34 Speaker 1: You guys are done.

34:36 Speaker 6: And it's like, no, I swear I'm twenty.

34:37 Speaker 8: I go this is my dad, dad, and my father's like he's actually old enough to drink, and it was the whole thing.

34:44 Speaker 6: Third time kicked out. Okay, you guys can play again.

34:47 Speaker 8: So we went up on stage and they like the buzz in the club was like, I'm going to blackball these guys from everywhere in Boston.

34:56 Speaker 6: They're never playing anyone anywhere again.

34:59 Speaker 8: So we're going to stage. We're like, we're gonna go for broke. So was the backflips, the blood, the you know. And we got done and the manager from the route was like, next time you play, no, I mean if you haven't played here again.

35:16 Speaker 1: Oh wow.

35:18 Speaker 4: We played Jackson, Cambridge and it burned down a week later. They were the last rock band actually played there.

35:23 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding.

35:24 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and that was a nightmare. So what why did it?

35:30 Speaker 1: I never heard about this. Why did it burn down?

35:34 Speaker 6: It's burnt whatever? Yeah, who knows.

35:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah,

35:43 Speaker 1: were you guys when you guys were really active, were you playing like every every week? Were you playing it all over Boston or yeah?

35:50 Speaker 8: So we play in Boston and then we were down played down the beach Revia Beach. Oh okay, and that was always cool because we play with no bands like Mats mm hmm.

36:00 Speaker 6: And I don't know if you know those guys, but they're awesome guys.

36:03 Speaker 1: Mass. I saw them once still around. I saw them at my first concert. So my first concert was Winger Okay, that's right, Yeah, in Conquered and Mass opened for them.

36:16 Speaker 8: So no, Jean Joey, you know they're they're just like such Louis. They're just great guys. We played with them. Me and Billy played with them again in separate bands. Okay, so he was in Erotica, I was in the Wind.

36:34 Speaker 8: We played down there with them, and yeah, so yeah we would you know, we just played all over the beach.

36:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did did you guys play with anybody who went on to really be I mean, you know Mass people know them, but like, did you did you play with anyone who went on to Oh you played with.

36:50 Speaker 4: Before he was in the Dream Extreme he was the band I don't but yeah, and everybody, oh yeah, see he's amazing talent.

37:01 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the city we come from, Malden. It's really strange musically. So the street I grew up on, I didn't live there when he lived there, but Norman Greenbaum lived on my street. Oh no kidding, Yeah, you know Spurred in the sky. If I walked around the corner and I knew him, I grew up with him. Bobino lived around the corner. He played with Charlie Farron, then Okay, who's also from Malden. Then Bill went on to play for Steve. I go across town. There's Scary Sharon and the guys from Extreme. And before they were Extreme, they were Adrenaline.

37:41 Speaker 8: Their first guitar player, Matt McKay was my guitar teacher. Oh okidding, So we knew all those guys. And then Matt's brother Mark formed the band called Slapshot you might have heard of, yes, And then Johnny A lived in town, and Dave Robinson the Cars lived in town and boys Life and it was just these.

38:02 Speaker 6: All out of this one city.

38:03 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, yeah yea, and everyone was.

38:06 Speaker 8: I'm really cool, so like Gary's little older than me, Phil from you know for Bino, and those guys would always like help you out. It wasn't like this rival band. Yeah thing, yeah at the alunch gear or give you tips or like I said, Matt.

38:23 Speaker 6: Was my guitar teacher. So yeah, it was a really good environment to grow up in.

38:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's that's great because you know, if you had grown up somewhere if you know, if any of you guys had grown up somewhere else, who knows. You know, if you if you grew up somewhere where there was no musicians around, you might not be you might not be doing music today, you know, who knows.

38:42 Speaker 8: So, like you said, it's hard to find drummers. Yeah, you could just like walk to the cafeteria in high school and go, hey, I needed a drummer.

38:49 Speaker 1: Five guys would put your hand up. It's fantastic. Yeah oh did you yeah, yeah, did you do both for a while? They were good because you don't see you don't see a lot of that. You don't see a lot of singing rummers. The Eagles. Yeah, yeah, there's there's a few, but yeah, I mean my theory is, you know, because drums is the most physical instrument because you're using all four of your limbs, so to do that. Did you find it challenging to do that?

39:11 Speaker 5: In saying it depended on the genre.

39:13 Speaker 4: I mean, if it was you know, if it was a very fast heavy that you know, your you're breathing is different when you're playing drums.

39:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta kind of it's like a sport.

39:22 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

39:23 Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, whereas you know, singing, it's it's more of a of a of a.

39:30 Speaker 4: Posture thing, yeah, you know, to use the proper muscles in your stomach and your throat.

39:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it could be it was challenging. I didn't do it for a long time.

39:39 Speaker 4: I gravitated towards singing because you know, obviously you couldn't find a lot of good singers.

39:44 Speaker 1: Right right, especially in the rock scene. Yeah, yeah, no, I love your voice on these tracks, and absolutely we should. We should play another one. It's getting late. Yeah, I want to I want to at least get get one more of these. In uh, where should we go next?

39:57 Speaker 4: I would probably say, Hollywood, Oh, what do you want to go? Within the wine, it's more of our well Holly Hollywood.

40:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go with Hollywood, and then we'll get we'll get within with within the Wine, and at the end of the show we'll have time for both. We'll play this, we'll come back and just kind of remind everybody where to find you guys and the paper jam article and so forth, and then we'll uh yeah, and then we'll play the other one at the end. But yeah, this is called Hollywood with snakes and uh, this is b f raid Boston's final raid here with us live in studio,

40:32 Speaker 1: and it's not playing. Why is it not playing? Let me try that again.

40:35 Speaker 5: Here we go.

40:38 Speaker 1: Wait, it's doing something weird.

40:41 Speaker 5: Welcome me.

41:02 Speaker 10: Say your little speaks on the spree like to bottles, these.

41:05 Speaker 1: Classic skills adoles a dreams.

41:07 Speaker 9: Come to Night with the Stars, bass Green, night.

41:10 Speaker 10: Bus hounding at the credits roll, sollst sell you soul sins off wood basswood, but still don't go holdy.

41:19 Speaker 11: Wood bound ball had it?

41:25 Speaker 9: Would you find yourself from the castle house? Helps that you think so?

41:35 Speaker 11: Buse Finally you heard the starry w.

41:42 Speaker 9: It's a pity that it costs New.

41:45 Speaker 11: York soul and the Grandpa the area.

41:48 Speaker 9: Is sunning the house, cameras bashing palm of the don't one.

41:52 Speaker 10: Of you, and stelling is but this diamonds on your fingers and finally you have it all clean of the Knight.

41:59 Speaker 9: Show up the battles, not a creating all your beast. I'm mispan man, it's not when you had least find yourself on the chest of the house.

42:19 Speaker 1: It helps everything go.

42:20 Speaker 9: Someone in their house.

42:24 Speaker 10: Follow your the story.

42:28 Speaker 1: It's a pity that it.

42:29 Speaker 9: Costs you your soul.

43:18 Speaker 4: You're a Hollywood with lay every day.

43:21 Speaker 10: They read estates to the chap being away at the gully dream time.

43:32 Speaker 9: Hollywood. Once you read it's grip and you feel it's time to print the script. You should have known it would Electure County used to.

43:39 Speaker 10: Dream about the time I knowing the point you start to kill once again. You start to feel be enough be I'm not like.

43:47 Speaker 9: The good your finday sing a Hollywood.

43:53 Speaker 11: You don't by Honeywood.

44:00 Speaker 9: Show.

44:19 Speaker 1: What a great track Hollywood with snakes. The band is bf Raid Boston's Final Raid with us here live in studio and in a couple of moments we'll wrap up with those guys and we'll get one more track. And before we run out of time, though, Jenny, I want to make sure we remind everybody of what is going on tonight.

44:35 Speaker 7: Big event, the guest, very big event at the Mosaic Art Collective, the Small Wonders Miniature Art Show. The opening is tonight from four to eight pm. I hope you will join us there. I proudly have four pieces in this show, which is insane. I've never had so many pieces in the Jermy show. So thank you, thank you.

44:54 Speaker 1: We're very proud of her. You can go to the.

44:56 Speaker 7: Mosaic Art Collective, which is located at sixty six Hanover Street, Suite two one, right here in the Queen City and the Dayla Mayor Building. And if you are coming tonight, please please please consider bringing some art supplies. We are collecting art supplies to donate to local Manchester children and there will also be a raffle tonight with the proceeds going to New Hampshire Reproductive Fund.

45:17 Speaker 1: Very good. So that is uh, what's the what is it?

45:20 Speaker 7: Four to eight for eight pm tonight is the opening. The show is actually going to be up through December. And all of the pieces in this show are below twelve by twelve size, so that's why it's a miniature.

45:31 Speaker 1: Yes, very good. Yeah, so so come down join us tonight and guys, this has been wonderful. Thank you so much for coming in this morning. You a pleasure. Thank you, thank you for the hat and the mugs and and everything. Yeah boiled.

45:45 Speaker 7: I can't wait to use my new coffee mugs.

45:47 Speaker 1: And the stickers. As you can see if you can see the mac of Jenny's computer, I don't like sticks.

45:51 Speaker 7: She run out of places. I need a new thing with the stickers on.

45:58 Speaker 1: What should our what should our listeners know about? Where to keep up with everything you guys are doing.

46:03 Speaker 8: I would say the Facebook page would be a really good place. It gets updated quite often. But also be afraid dot com.

46:11 Speaker 1: Yeah so we were we're still on Facebook.

46:14 Speaker 6: We're old.

46:14 Speaker 8: Yeah, but we were lucky to grab that your yeah thirty years ago and it just sits around did nothing.

46:24 Speaker 6: It's like, wow, we have this.

46:27 Speaker 2: Yeah.

46:27 Speaker 1: Yeah.

46:28 Speaker 4: Honestly, Bruce is the media guru though he's the one that oh okay really does He does a great job getting our name out there.

46:34 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's responsible for all of you know this and paper jam.

46:37 Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, the swagger and all that the press release, which was awesome, and yeah, yeah, a lot of time doing Yeah. Absolutely. Do you do the website too, Did you build the site?

46:48 Speaker 6: Yeah.

46:48 Speaker 1: I'm a web designer, so I look at and I judge websites. But I like your site. No, it's very good, very good. Yeah. Yeah, it looks good and it's it's easy to find everything. Just you know, I see a lot of bad websites, so when I see a good one, I like to go out of my way to say, hey, that's a good, good site. I see a lot of bad ones. I'm very judgmental about about websites. And you guys are already are it sounds like you're already talking about another album. Is that correct?

47:19 Speaker 8: We're already writing it. It's five in the Q now excellent, okay, and it's going to be Afraid. But there's a couple of songs that are maybe a little departure. There's one that we love called what You Crave. Yeah, still has that deep almost like who Cracked the a kind of sabbathy feel.

47:44 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's written around like a Hindu toty.

47:50 Speaker 8: Okay, so it's written you wouldn't hear that, but it was written with like Indian music skills. Okay, so has a weird, dissident, kind of deep sound to it. It's kind of cool. And then we have a song about white up called Bullets from the Board and that just has time signatures all over the place. Yeah, it's like three four different time signatures in different parts of the song. So it's that's been the biggest challenge.

48:21 Speaker 1: I would say, So, yeah, well that sounds it. Yeah, yeah, well we will uh we will close out with one more track, this within the Wine. Anything we should know about this before.

48:32 Speaker 8: We very early Beerfraid song. This is something we did back in the day. We played this live with the exception of the intro. Okay, right, so the intro was added a year ago, and I always wanted to have an intro to this song, but we would just usually started off one, two, three, four, boom right into it.

48:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

48:57 Speaker 8: I would say we kind of call it a poppy song up because it doesn't seem as heavy.

49:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, but more commercial than yeah. Yeah, very melodic, very accessible.

49:06 Speaker 8: Again, Bruce, it's about me being a spaz and not being able to approach women when I was much younger.

49:13 Speaker 1: Oh, no kidding.

49:13 Speaker 8: So I would pond down a couple of beers and then I could talk to anybody.

49:17 Speaker 5: Right, like Rash from The Big Bang Theory, Yeah, but a worse version of rod.

49:22 Speaker 4: Uh.

49:23 Speaker 1: Yeah.

49:23 Speaker 8: So yeah, I just had like a lot of you know, before be Afraid, I was just chubby kid that played in like like a kind of rock band, but you know, it wasn't really successful with the ladies. And then I dropped all this weight. I joined this metal band where I could take my shirt off and pictures. Yeah, but I'm still self conscious, so yeah, yeah, the alcohol would help that a little bit.

49:47 Speaker 1: Sure, understood, understood, Well, yeah we will we will close with this, uh but thank you guys, and thank you everyone who joined us today. Of course Jack and Cora in the first hour, and then we had Eleanor and Spellfeet during the second hour talking about spe Healthy Fest coming up November twenty fourth at Jewel right here in Manchester. But we will close with this. This is from Bfraid, Boston's final Raid and the album is called Rated Again. And gentlemen again, thank you so much. Thank you Bruce, Bill, Matt, all three of you.

50:17 Speaker 1: Wonderful to have you here.