Matt Connarton Unleashed: Jack Ancora

0:00 Speaker 1: Before we introduce our guests, we're going to play one of his studio tracks, and then he's gonna play live for us. We're gonna get to know Jack and Cora. Did I say right? I got it right? All right, very good. So check this out. This is really cool. This is called Wildside.

0:22 Speaker 2: And she runs with fire.

0:27 Speaker 1: Burning on her having.

0:32 Speaker 3: Night out. Flyer Cario, keep bar queen. I'm in no school ridder turning up on some backroad traver when the work has been done. Baver around her, lov on a tree in the interceding not world. I'm a dog on her release.

1:09 Speaker 4: Whoa that side keeps.

1:12 Speaker 2: Cutting on through.

1:16 Speaker 3: Ws like shouting on.

1:18 Speaker 4: The wireway of a couple of those schools.

1:23 Speaker 3: I'm along for the ride any day, any ninety.

1:26 Speaker 4: It's true.

1:29 Speaker 3: She's got the outside that's pulling me through, not on roadway hopping underground dice let us backstage knowing she's a good time.

1:51 Speaker 5: And it'ser or any day.

1:54 Speaker 3: She's a dancing machine.

1:58 Speaker 5: And from my rodeo, oh.

2:01 Speaker 6: I could cat on a bean.

2:06 Speaker 7: Whoa that hick keeps cutting on food?

2:13 Speaker 5: Who like showering on the wire with h cup through the spoons. Whoa, it's fire on I still sturning on foods. I'm along for the.

2:29 Speaker 4: Ride any day any ninety.

2:31 Speaker 5: It's true. She's got the light hot side. That's couldn't a loose? Whoa that n sack? He's cutting on through.

3:04 Speaker 4: What like chatting on the wire with a couple of use crews.

3:11 Speaker 8: Whoa they a lot?

3:14 Speaker 5: He's cutting on?

3:18 Speaker 3: Whoa it's following on us to spurning on food I'll belong for the ride any day in nineties. She's got the wildwood side that's cutting it loose.

3:38 Speaker 4: Oh, she's gotten the wildwood side.

3:42 Speaker 2: It's couldn't be living.

3:49 Speaker 6: Thank you very much, thank you.

3:52 Speaker 1: I can't believe we got all these people in here this morning. No, I'm just kidding. No, that was up. That was obviously recorded live, and we'll ask me about that. Jack and Cora is here with us live in studio. What a great song, Jack, Oh, thank you very much. Really like that a lot you? Uh Where did you record that?

4:11 Speaker 6: That was at the Studio Portland in Portland, Maine. Now the Studio Portland they do these things called live sessions where they have six or seven, maybe eight musicians come in and then you get to do three songs performed live in front of an audience. Okay, Yeah, it's a good opportunity. It's the price is good, you know, compared to going into a studio and actually recording. Yeah, so it's it's definitely worth it.

4:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. Is that something that you'll you'll do again in the future, like, well, they have you back or yeah?

4:42 Speaker 6: I mean you can. You know, it's not like you have to get invited or anything. You can just oh wow, you just sign up for it. Yeah, that's my second time doing it. I'll probably do it again, but I think the next time I want to actually really do an actual recording session, no live audience.

4:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh sweet Jack, I'm just gonna ask you to get get closer to that. Yeah, there we go. Oh, no problem, no problem. And you did. Now you sent us a few studio tracks. Were these all done there? Yes? Okay, they were okay, very good. Now you came to us through our friend Temple Mountain.

5:12 Speaker 6: That's great.

5:12 Speaker 1: I assume have you shared the stage with him? Have you guys played shows together or how do you How do you guys know each other?

5:17 Speaker 6: He he's from the Keene area. I was doing a show in Keene, New Hampshire and he actually came out he'd heard about me. We both worked for the the NH Music Collective.

5:26 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that's.

5:27 Speaker 6: How we kind of we knew each other from social media status. I guess. Yeah, he saw me. Uh we we hit it off. We talked for just talking music, you know. Yes, and actually we a couple of weeks about a month ago now, we did a songwriting competition together up in Guildford and I got to see him again. He plays first, I got second. So yeah, it was it was but it was a great it was you know, he's he's a great songwriter. It was I'd known about him and it was finally good to Yeah.

5:57 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. We've had him on the show what three times now, Jenny something like that. A few, Yeah, because we've we've had him at least a couple of times here and a couple of times at the old studio, I think. So yeah, No, he's amazing and he's he's interesting too because you know, because of his his career, his day job so to speak. Well actually he's still going to school for it, for psychology. But yeah, he's just really remarkable to to talk with. Do you play out a lot? Do you do a lot of live shows.

6:24 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm out every week, three four shows a week, Yeah, every week.

6:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent.

6:28 Speaker 6: My this is just what I do, you know, no other jobs. What I'm doing right now.

6:31 Speaker 1: Good for you. That's outstanding. Yeah, yeah very much. How long have you been doing it kind of full time so to.

6:38 Speaker 6: SPA, Yeah, I'd say probably the last two years. I'm like still very new to this whole music thing. I started playing during COVID. Yeah, that's when I picked it up. And then I got out in like twenty twenty one. Yeah, I was only doing like one show a weekend, but that's when I started getting out.

6:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's great. Yeah. So did you start Is that when you started learning to play guitar or in COVID.

7:00 Speaker 6: Well, so, my father taught me guitar, but it was just, you know, just I grew up with a lot of Johnny Cash, so those three four chord songs. His father taught him, my grandfather, and so it's kind of been a tradition thing, and I never really had an interest for it in school. You know. He probably taught me when I was like eight. You know, I played, you know, maybe three times a year total, and then you know, Covid hit and I just had all that free time, and yeah, I'd always been a huge fan of music, you know, like anybody else, but yeah, I had the time, and I just fell in love with it.

7:33 Speaker 1: Now, what about in terms of singing, are you self taught? Did you take lessons or singing?

7:39 Speaker 6: No, I've I've never taken lessons, I guess just my only lessons are just cranking the radio up in the car and just blaring it out, you know. Yeah, that's really it. I was always scared to sing in front of people, so that was a big thing for me when I started singing. I wouldn't even sing in front of my parents. So I yeah, but I did it, and yeah, it's taking me take me pretty far since then.

8:06 Speaker 1: So you've got a great voice, who would you who would you tend to listen to? Are there specific artists that you would tend to listen to and sing along to to really train your voice?

8:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean, I my parents grew up in the nineties, so I grew up with all those nineties bans, you know, Parl jm Alice and Chains all that stuff. So those were like for me starting out singing, those were like my go tos. Yeah, maybe even like more match Bucks twenties kind of more my my style, Rob Thomas.

8:32 Speaker 1: But I can hear I can hear that.

8:33 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, can you hear yeah? Yeah. But like when I the reason I got into music was like classic rock scene, you know, Zepling, Black Sabbath, That's that's really got me going. But I can't sing that that stuff exactly. I can try.

8:49 Speaker 1: But yeah, And while this was happening during COVID, while you were learning to play guitar, and you know you obviously you've been training your voice singing, were you also did you start writing songs at the same time or did you already have song ideas or did that come later.

9:04 Speaker 6: No, I've only been writing for less than a year, like last January, Yeah, till I started. I you know, it's it's a big confidence thing, you know, writing something and actually playing it in front of people. So it sind of took me a while to build that up.

9:19 Speaker 9: Yeah.

9:19 Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, no, I'm still like, you know, I don't know what kind of music I'm going to be reading this, you know, I don't know what my genre is. I'm still trying to figure it out. Yeah, I always experimenting, So yeah, still trying to find my voice.

9:30 Speaker 1: Yeah in that sense. Yeah, well you've got that. There's that singer songwriter genre which is very sort of broad, but you know, obviously you fit into that and I and you know, I can imagine, I mean at radio in terms of format you'd fit in, well, you know, in the Americana format. I would think, like, I don't know if you've been played on or if you've submitted any music to the River in Boston. I have not known that that's the station that I can imagine, you know, a commercial station that would pick you up.

9:55 Speaker 1: And I think you do very well at college radio as well. But now that's that's great. How many how many songs have you written? Can you put a number on it? Yeah, because I bet once you really started writing, it took off. I would imagine you've written a lot of songs since then.

10:09 Speaker 6: It's probably been like twenty, but there's probably three or four that I would actually play live. Really, it's just those first ones are just I don't think they're ever going to be good for I mean maybe for some people they write one song and it's great, but yeah, you know, it's it's like playing it's like learning guitar, you know, it's like it you get it gets better and better as you keep on doing it. Yeah, at least for me.

10:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a lot of covers to fill out.

10:32 Speaker 6: The yet yep, I mean that's what I started doing. Yeah, so I mean now it's like, you know, I would be practicing covers when I first started all the time. Now it's like I don't even I have my three hours of covers and now it's just kind of focus on songwriting and getting better on the guitar.

10:47 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, you want to play something for us dining here? You to play live?

10:52 Speaker 9: Yeah?

10:53 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us Jack and Cora? Am I saying it?

10:55 Speaker 5: Right?

10:55 Speaker 6: And you got it?

10:56 Speaker 1: Jack and Cora is here with this live in studio. Jack has one of those last names a n CEO R A where it's like you could probably pronounce it a few different ways and and any any one of them would sound credible. But uh, but it is Jack and Cora. But you probably get anchor a quite a bit, right.

11:12 Speaker 6: Yeah. I had a whole bunch of things.

11:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna play for us?

11:17 Speaker 6: This is a song called I'll Get By. I wrote this song about being a musician, playing out on the road a lot most of my weekends. I don't get home till very late. So yeah, I guess I wrote it about that. Yeah, that's about it. All, that's very simple.

11:36 Speaker 1: All right. Here we go.

11:42 Speaker 4: Riding along, don't staying hound if.

11:47 Speaker 5: No home place from my head till I'll get.

11:51 Speaker 10: By thirty ones in a few straight down, turning my sink one across the track off and I'll get by.

12:12 Speaker 4: I'll get by.

12:17 Speaker 3: Rusty strings, god, a drunken charm. Folk don't care and I sor don't mind to get me by.

12:29 Speaker 8: Getting So I'll get by him some back of body I find.

12:40 Speaker 4: Piece down some awesome highway.

12:44 Speaker 3: I'll be funny because I'll do it my way, young and broke.

12:50 Speaker 4: Well, I still got time. I'll get back. Ain't the shop for a suit in time, she says, boy, way, still got time. Now, I'll get by her. I'll getting by it. Then she'll sit there and ask me why take a slice of a bigger pie?

13:37 Speaker 11: Will get by, will get by?

13:47 Speaker 3: They'll get by him some background bottom you'll find working in some local shadowy they'll be finding because we're you hit all.

14:00 Speaker 4: A way, young and broke very still got time. Friends, don't put your wording on me.

14:19 Speaker 5: So I'll be fine if I get there one.

14:22 Speaker 4: Time, pay my bills with my song in my room, I'll get mine and I'll get it. So I'll get.

14:36 Speaker 5: By you on some background by the way.

14:41 Speaker 3: I'll find peace down some long highway. I'll be fighting because.

14:47 Speaker 4: I do in my way, young and broke, well, I still got time.

14:55 Speaker 8: I'll get by you some background by way.

15:00 Speaker 4: Ah fatiayah, being.

15:05 Speaker 12: Fatny south and lovely young and bros.

15:11 Speaker 5: You got.

15:20 Speaker 1: Love it. Wow wow, wow wow. Absolutely, Jack and Cora is here with us live in studio on this Saturday morning. Here tell us talk about you know, we talked about influences in terms of your singing and what about songwriting. Who are some of the artists who've influenced you that way? Because I love your songs and you know again, I've listened to all three tracks that you sent us and this is really really good, So I'm curious about who your influences are. Yeah.

15:46 Speaker 6: For songwriting, oh geez, I mean it's so vast. I mean, if we're talking like today's songwriting, Chris Stapleton's really like the pinnacle for me. I think personally, I think his songwriting is.

15:59 Speaker 1: Just that name comes up a lot when I asked this question. Yeah, it's interesting.

16:03 Speaker 6: He's just I mean, to begin with, he before he was famous and you know, released his own stuff, he was writing songs in Nashville for other artists, and so he's just a maestro in that aspect. I mean, he really knows what he's doing. I personally think lyrically, vocally, and he's a great guitar player too. He doesn't get much shine for his guitar playing. He's a great guitar player. So I mean, yeah, if I'm looking up to someone or if I'm trying to take notes for someone, it's going to be Stapleton.

16:33 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, anybody else you can think of offhand.

16:37 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's funny. I played. So I played in a band, a three piece band. We were a classic rock band. So like a lot of like what we were doing in terms we would write songs. We would do some blue stuff, we do some hard rock stuff. So in that sense, it was like the Zeppelin, the Sabbath, even tool we would go, you know, we would write some two like songs. So I mean on the setting, you know, I you know, I like the new stuff in terms of inspiration that the old stuff too, you know. It's yeah, it's all over the place.

17:07 Speaker 6: Really.

17:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what was the band called?

17:10 Speaker 6: We were called Young Guns. We broke up, but we're actually getting back together. Oh in a couple of months. So yeah, our first shows in January again. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we're very excited.

17:19 Speaker 1: Are you Are you just doing like a one offer? Are you jumping back into that and going full scene with.

17:23 Speaker 6: It or yeah, it's just gonna be you know, like for fun, like you know, maybe once a month toice a month. We played, we do a lot. I'm from Lacony in Hampshire. We do a lot during bike week. Yeah, we play a lot of shows then, so that's kind of our big shabam. But yeah, it's just gonna be a you know, once a month, toys a month thing, just for fun.

17:39 Speaker 1: What are you doing that? Do you play guitar and singer?

17:41 Speaker 9: Yeah?

17:41 Speaker 6: I played guitar. It's a three piece. I play guitar and sing. But uh, we're looking at a new singer. I've always thought, you know, man, you know we do all these Zeppelin songs, these high pitched stuff. If we could get a girl singer.

17:51 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'd be on fire.

17:52 Speaker 6: Yeah no, yeah, we got a girl. She's very interested. We're gonna try her out. We're very excited. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:58 Speaker 1: Oh that's excellent. That's excellent. When you play, when you play out, you know, because it sounds like you're very busy, Like do you play all around New England? Have you done anything outside of New England or you?

18:08 Speaker 6: Yeah? I so I play. I mean a lot of it's in New Hampshire. I'm trying to get down in mass mar I do a few stuff in mass I go up to Maine as well, but outside of New England. I got the chance to play in New York City in August. Do you want me to do you mind if I tell the story?

18:25 Speaker 5: Oh?

18:26 Speaker 1: No, go ahead, yeah please.

18:27 Speaker 6: I was at the Foundry right across the street here in this this this actor his name was Elias Cacavas. He came up to me. He was like, hey, man, yeah, I think you're great. We have a band, we're called the Vanity. We're going to be playing at the Rex Theater in a few weeks or whatever it was. And I said, okay, yeah, I'll open for you. He said, he asked me to open. I said sure, I mean, I'm not going to turn that down. It's the Rex Theater. And it went great. It was a lot of fun. They're actually from New York this band, he's from Manchester, but he lives down in New York City and they were like, we're doing another gig.

18:58 Speaker 6: You want to come down? Definitely New York City? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's as far as I've been so far.

19:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, where in New York? What was the venue?

19:08 Speaker 6: It was called the Delancey Rooftop. Okay, it's on the East Side, East Side, I guess.

19:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, uh no, that's fantastic.

19:15 Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't They don't play out much. I mean, I mean, like he's an actor, he's always out filming there.

19:21 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 6: They I think they only do a few shows a year.

19:23 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, cool. Cool. Now when you play out do you usually do is it you do like a three hour set? Is it? Is it just you most of the time?

19:32 Speaker 6: Just me kind of guitar?

19:33 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now is it always just you? In terms of like do you ever have guest musicians or anything, because obviously what you're doing would lend itself to that. You ever came up with anybody?

19:44 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean I had a gig at the Backyard Brewery last night and there's a guy that works in the same Anach music collective, and I was like, come on up and we singing like four songs. You know. Happened again the night before, a couple of artists I know that they played out and they ca to see me and had them come up.

20:01 Speaker 1: Oh very cool.

20:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's always fun.

20:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's nice to do something too. I would imagine where and I say I would imagine because I've never been in that situation. I used to play in a lot of bands, but it was never anything where like what you're doing where you can just have other people kind of join you, you know. I was just always in rock bands where it was, you know, just four dudes and we're just you know, doing the same thing every show, and there's not that flexibility to just have people come up. So I alway thought it'd be fun to do something like that.

20:27 Speaker 1: So that must be nice to be able to do that.

20:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

20:30 Speaker 6: But like you know, like you said, I totally understand that whole you know, rock you know, being in a band thing. You know, people will you know, if I get a request for a song when I'm alone, I can probably do it if I know it right. If you're in a band, though, it's right, you know, if you guys have never played it, it's.

20:43 Speaker 1: Not happening right, exactly, exactly totally.

20:46 Speaker 6: I get that.

20:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when you started playing because you were playing in the band. Let me make sure I've got the timeline right. Were you playing in the band before you started doing solo gigs? Live?

20:59 Speaker 6: Started right? Both?

20:59 Speaker 1: The oh you started both at the same time? Okay, did was playing in the band easier in some ways, like less pressure because I would always imagine because again I've never done what you do, but I would imagine because there's to me, like there was always a safety. There's a safety to being in a band when you're in a band and it's you and some other dudes and you're on stage, especially for someone like me. I'm a bass player. So if I'm playing in a metal band and it's loud, and if there's anyone in the band who can get away with making a mistake, it's the bass player, Like like oops, I played an A instead of an E. Nobody knows, but I would imagine that's a lot less pressure being in that band than being just you on stage, because then all the focus is on you.

21:42 Speaker 1: I mean, was that scary at first? Was that intimidating?

21:44 Speaker 6: I really do see what you're saying with like the you know, the companionship of having a band. Honestly though, I felt like it was it was I felt more comfortable, really in this singing sense, being solo because I just I didn't have to focus on everybody else. Probably a three piece, I was the lead guitarist, so you know, it's like I had to really listen into everyone else with when I'm solo, I can just I'm just doing my own thing.

22:08 Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense.

22:10 Speaker 6: But I mean, you know, playing with the band though, you know, getting to play with three other two other dudes that it's awesome, like you know, just it's it's a it's a it's a bond that is not even tangible, it's it's amazing.

22:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine too that being a lot of pressure of being the lead guitarist and a three piece. You know, the small the smaller the it seems like the smaller the band, the less room there is for any kind of error. I don't know's I don't know, it makes sense. It's what I'm just thinking, though it's probably that's probably not even the right way to think about it, but that's that's how I used to think about it though some of these bands I played, and it was like, yeah, it's good when it's good to know that I can make a mistake and no one's likely to know.

22:54 Speaker 6: But uh, you're the you're the backbone of the band though being a basis you know, like, yeah, you're like the most important person out there. You know, that's what keeps together.

23:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well there you go, there you go.

23:04 Speaker 6: That's what I think at least.

23:05 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the songs that you play in that band or did play and we'll play again, do any of those make it into your solo set or like for covers or yeah, or even or I don't know if you had originals with them that yeah you brought.

23:22 Speaker 6: Over sometimes you know, like I said, you know, like we for example, like if I were to play a led Zeppelin, so I know I keep bringing them up, but if I were to play a led Zeppelin song with the band, it'd probably be like rock and roll something yeah, going or you know, but if I'm playing solo, it might be going to California, Yeah for example. Yeah, so I mean same bands. It just like depends on you know, a lot of the times. It's it's very different.

23:49 Speaker 1: Though, yeah than the band. Yeah that makes sense. If you're just joining us, Jack and Cora is here with us live in studio, and you want to play another one, I'd love to. Yeah, we'd love to hear you play live again. Jack is Uh, he brought his guitar. What are you gonna play for us?

24:04 Speaker 3: Uh?

24:04 Speaker 6: This is a little blue song I wrote. I was I was up late at night and I was on my phone and I saw a video of a blues artist playing on the acoustic guitar. Oh. I was like, Oh, I try something real quick. Okay, I write a little song. This is called Southbound Sugar.

24:19 Speaker 5: All right.

24:22 Speaker 6: It's gonna be a little quieter because I'm not using a pick, so it just heads up.

24:25 Speaker 9: Okay.

24:28 Speaker 12: M my baby, she's down in Georgia drinking sweet deep mixed. Oh my baby, She's down and old drinking sweete mixed with I ain't seen myself bound baby since God knows me,

25:18 Speaker 12: I've been.

25:19 Speaker 13: There, baby, there's no doubt you're gonna cry every time myself.

25:26 Speaker 4: I'm said, baby, there's no doubt it's your train's head. Oh you sound, baby, bring yourself bounce sugar of.

25:41 Speaker 5: All right, m.

26:08 Speaker 11: Hmm long, just thinking about you, your sound blues, just thinking about you.

26:27 Speaker 4: I heard then Georgia peaches get kind of blues.

26:30 Speaker 9: And dimes.

26:34 Speaker 5: You're a peach, right.

26:36 Speaker 4: And then on the town all the cats scrawled in out the house. You're a peach right.

26:44 Speaker 13: And then on the town now scarling out his howl, baby bringing on south bound peaches on to me, my baby, she's down Jojo drinking Sweet Tea mixed gin. Yeah, my baby, she's down Joe drinking Sweet team mixed. I ain't seen mass south bound baby, and all again, very nice, very nice.

27:30 Speaker 14: So like you are not who you are, Like somewhere in there is like an eighty year old person who has the most incredible you have an amazing lose voice.

27:42 Speaker 1: Please, I'm not even kidding, Like, wow.

27:45 Speaker 6: Those one's hurt. You know. That's when I have to get you know, people. For example, when I do cover stuff, people say play pearl.

27:52 Speaker 1: Jam yeah, good jack good, Oh that's okay, yeah, or you can. Yeah, yeah, we've got if you are just joining us. Jack and Korra is here with us live in studio, and yeah, I was. I was kind of thinking the same thing as Jenny. It's like, you know, you got an old soul there. That's really good. You come from a musical family. I I kind of suspected.

28:13 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean from as young as I can remember. You know, Johnny Cash was like playing on the radio in the cars, and I grew up with that stuff. So I mean I'm an old soul when it comes to music. And yeah, I can think of my parents for that. I'm very grateful for it, you know. It's yeah, love that stuff.

28:34 Speaker 1: So your parents are your parents musicians?

28:36 Speaker 6: My dad plays guitar. Yeah, he taught me. My mom sings. They both sing, yeah, yeah, they're good singers.

28:46 Speaker 5: Yeah.

28:46 Speaker 6: It just music was always around as far back as I can remember.

28:51 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, did your dad play a band or anything?

28:55 Speaker 6: I think he So, he played in a band called the Lampey River Band. I played in this band. I was guitars. So yeah, this is actually how I first got started. My Bassis and I who we later playing the band Young Guns. Together. We go to this campground in Raymond, New Hampshire. We we have vacation there in the summer, and uh, these guys my father included, and we're like, let's start a band. So it was me, my father and three other guys in the bassis. His name's Kevin from my band, and we just started jamming and we played at the campground a bunch of times and me and my bassis were like, yeah, this is this is awesome.

29:32 Speaker 6: We got to start doing We had just started playing. We were like, we got this is right after COVID, we gotta start doing this.

29:37 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:37 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's really the reason what you know inspired us.

29:41 Speaker 1: But rh yeah, right, does your dad still play or does he still Is he so active musically?

29:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know he's you know, he doesn't play out, but you know he's always down in the basement. You can always hear him strumming and singing down there. So yeah, he's always he's always playing.

29:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not surprised that you have what about like, do you have siblings or cousins or anybody who's also musicians or.

30:02 Speaker 6: I have two younger sisters my uh, the oldest of the youngest sisters she plays guitar. Okay, she's she just started not too long ago. She's getting pretty good.

30:12 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

30:14 Speaker 6: And then the youngest one, she's she's starting to sing, no kidding, yeah yeah. It's if you're an anchor, it's just bound to happen. Yeah, you're gonna get sucked into it.

30:22 Speaker 1: I always wonder. I don't know if anyone's researched it, if there's been any research on this, but I always wonder if there's any kind of a genetic component in terms of musicianship running in families. I don't know if there if there is something genetic to it, or if it's just if it just happens that way. Because if you're around, if you're growing up around music, then of course you're going to be more likely to want to be involved in it. It's just always interesting to me, Like I don't I don't feel like I meet very many musicians who want to interview them if I ask them that question, Like, like nobody ever says to me, no, nobody, nobody in my family ever really played an instrument.

30:54 Speaker 1: I just for some reason, I started, you know what I mean?

30:56 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, And that happens all the time. I mean that's my basis. Nobody music in his family and he just picked it up. Oh really, Yeah, that's a that's a great point. I've always wondered that too, if it is genetic, like, yeah, that's very deep and it's Yeah, that's a great point.

31:09 Speaker 1: Now, what's kind of your forward trajectory? Obviously these songs, these studio tracks were recorded live. Do you have plans to release an album? Are you going into the studio or are you gonna put out singles or there's so many different ways to you know, to approach it in terms of releasing music, and.

31:26 Speaker 6: There is Yeah, I think I'm gonna start with singles. I'm gonna go out soon. I have some I So there's a couple of different guys that are I plan to record me which I'm looking forward to. I'm gonna I think I'm gonna do singles. You know, I still have to talk to, you know, people like Eric who are very familiar with the release process, because you know, some people just throw their stuff on Spotify and it's like nothing happens. I think there's other steps you gotta tell Yeah, you know, so that's what I I don't want to be that person.

31:55 Speaker 6: That just you know, throws something out and it just gets lost. Right. So yeah, I think by twenty twenty five, January early twenty twenty five, I'll be releasing a single. Yeah, I mean, you know, depending on how busy the studios are. But that's that's my that's my goal.

32:12 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And what about do you have plans to go out on tour like I do, a national tour.

32:17 Speaker 6: I would like to do that. That sounds great if you want to set it up. I'm down here, yeah, you know, I would love to do that. You know, I want to do this the rest of my life. Yeah, that's the that's the bottom line of it.

32:29 Speaker 5: Yeah.

32:31 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I'm just kind of in the I'm figuring it out still right right, I'm still very new to it.

32:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you've got some help to New Hampshire our music collectorally, they're great.

32:41 Speaker 6: Yeah.

32:41 Speaker 1: John MacArthur, he was on the show a couple of months ago, a few months ago. Yeah, he's great to talk to you. And yeah, we had I'm sure you know Rebecca Turmel.

32:49 Speaker 6: Yes, so she's wonderful.

32:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was on with us last week. And that's actually Jenny and I met her at a at a NH Music Collective event and conquered. Yeah, so they're they're doing great things and really providing a lot of information and knowledge for young artists because you know, you can really get swallowed up, you know, it's uh actually yeah. We talked about that a lot last week too with Rebecca. So it's it's so important to be able to find people who are positive, people who are knowledgeable. So I think it's great that you're how did you How did you get connected with NH Music Collective.

33:23 Speaker 6: I was doing a show in Laconia and some guy who knew John saw me play and he texted John said, hey, you got to see this kid play. And then John came to see me play at a show and that's how it started from there.

33:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, and then he approached you and yeah talking yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing.

33:42 Speaker 5: You know.

33:42 Speaker 1: What's really amazing to me is I was kind of stunned when we had him on and he told me how many events they do. I had no idea. I was and and you know, and a lot of them. You know, obviously there's a kind of a division of labor there, but a lot of these events he's you know, he's going to himself and and running things, and it's like, wow, you don't uh, you don't sleep much.

34:03 Speaker 6: He's a workaholic, but yeah, sure, no, he's he's a very busy man and he they The thing about the collective is they really care about the musicians, you know. Yeah, I mean that's I think that's what makes the difference.

34:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Before we run out of time, do you want to play one more for us?

34:20 Speaker 8: Uh?

34:21 Speaker 1: You can do another original, or if you want to do a cover you can?

34:24 Speaker 6: Or do you mind if I do a cover?

34:25 Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all. If you are just joining us. Jack and Cora is here with us, alive in studio, love to hear him play this is This is really a treat right now. We've got Jack and Cora here with us, and what are you gonna play for us?

34:38 Speaker 6: Jack? Well, we mentioned Stapleton, so I might as well show you where my inspiration comes from.

34:42 Speaker 1: All right?

34:43 Speaker 6: Stapleton sounds good?

35:07 Speaker 3: Where the old lords are like, welcome mad to a better place in the world here. I ain't got no kind of plans I've had all down.

35:25 Speaker 6: I can't stand.

35:29 Speaker 3: I got friends out on the cold. We can jump in the water and see you out floor. We've been saving for any deed. Let's beat the storm and bill on that way.

35:51 Speaker 4: It don't matter to me where if we ought's where.

35:54 Speaker 6: I wanna be.

35:57 Speaker 5: Orry for once in our lives stick out see.

36:00 Speaker 4: Sen Herron to day. I can be old lucky.

36:04 Speaker 1: Then you can be my for hoolie clover.

36:10 Speaker 7: Starting on, Here's Amy not been, he's in time.

36:26 Speaker 5: It's rifts the cross and here's the cry.

36:32 Speaker 4: Some days we mind.

36:34 Speaker 5: Father pall.

36:37 Speaker 7: In.

36:37 Speaker 2: Some night it's not feel cold and dollar.

36:43 Speaker 5: Nobody wins a free to losing him.

36:48 Speaker 4: And the Harrods are the one would choosing.

36:54 Speaker 2: Some day would look back and smile.

36:59 Speaker 1: And no it was worth dead.

37:01 Speaker 9: And I.

37:05 Speaker 5: It don't matter to.

37:06 Speaker 2: Me wherever we aut s where I wanna be honey, If.

37:11 Speaker 5: I won't in our lives stick.

37:13 Speaker 4: Our chicks interrupt with the die.

37:16 Speaker 5: How can you be a lucky?

37:18 Speaker 2: Can you can be my forehney cool bird?

37:24 Speaker 5: Starting on, starting on, it don't matter to me wherever we all swear, I want to be honey. If I won't in our lives stick our.

37:57 Speaker 4: Chins inter roup over die Here, I can be old lucky.

38:02 Speaker 2: Petty, you can be my fly starting starting.

38:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I can see it. Yeah, Chris Stapleton, that works for you.

38:49 Speaker 5: That's beautiful.

38:51 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah.

38:51 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us on this Saturday morning, Jack and Cora is here with us alive in studio. You mentioned too, so he was he's kind of your biggest influence there from what you were saying earlier. What is it about him? Is that something that you can verbalize or is it an intangible thing that's hard to really pin down. I'm especially curious because, like I said, his name comes up a lot when I talk to artists like you about influences. I hear Chris Stapleton's name all the time.

39:18 Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, okay, Well, I mean to me, with songwriting, my thing is like, I feel like you need to have something that connects to the audience immediately, whether it's a melody, or it's the lyrics, or it's the message. I think that it needs to be immediate because that's when you got him. When you got him, you got him.

39:39 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:40 Speaker 6: And that's the thing about Stapleton, you know, it's just like, especially in his lyrics, in the messages of his songs, it's so it's so relatable in a way. I mean, even if it's a song, he could be talking about whatever and it may have never happened to you, but you believe him. You believe what he's saying, and I think that's what's so that's what makes him so Stapleton, I guess.

40:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense.

40:05 Speaker 6: Yeah.

40:05 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting do you play? Do you play more than one of his songs when you play out?

40:11 Speaker 6: Yeah?

40:12 Speaker 1: I do a couple of his Yeah, figure it out.

40:14 Speaker 6: He's he's a very talented vocalist, so I can't do all of his songs.

40:17 Speaker 14: But yeah, oh I think, Oh I think you could.

40:22 Speaker 1: You probably could.

40:23 Speaker 14: You have an amazing voice, you really short, really do.

40:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Who who do you cover who you find especially challenging? Is there somebody that you cover who you really had to kind of figure out how to pull that one off?

40:38 Speaker 4: Yeah?

40:38 Speaker 6: Oh god, that's a hard I mean if you're doing like Alice in Chains and stuff like that, because I play a lot of places where nineties is what the people want to hear. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's that's tough because sometimes with Alice in Chains you have like, uh, Jerry can't tell you have him on the harmony too. Yeah, yeah, that's where it's hard to be like, Okay, sometimes you want to sing that harmony, right, but you also want to sing the lead. So it's it's it's kind of hard to pick one, yeah, because sometimes without like a song like if you know the song No Excuses?

41:10 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course.

41:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's if you just sing it alone, it doesn't sound right right, you know. Right, So that's a tough one, you know, picking out harmonies like that. It's it's hard. I mean there's a song by the band The Weight, you know, take a Load Off, and yeah, that's you know, that's a hard one too, because all the harmonies during the chorus, it's like which one do I sing?

41:28 Speaker 1: I could sing the lead, but interesting Yeah yeah, yeah, you.

41:33 Speaker 6: Know I've heard people do you know stuff like that and they actually are just singing the harmony alone and it sounds great, right you know. So I guess it just depends on what you like and what you can do.

41:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is that? What do you play?

41:44 Speaker 5: No Excuses?

41:44 Speaker 1: By a Trains?

41:46 Speaker 6: I just started practicing a friend of mine, his name's Willie Chase. He's actually a musician too. We jam together and he played that. I was like, oh, I forgot about that song. Yeah, to do that song. Yeah, so I'm kind of working on it right now.

41:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jenny and I are old enough to remember when that song was that that was a huge like you couldn't get away from it.

42:05 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Rooster is one of those ye my son yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, such a good song.

42:11 Speaker 5: But it's it's it's right exactly.

42:13 Speaker 14: That's my son says the same thing.

42:15 Speaker 1: It kills your boys. Yeah, that's hard to do. Yeah, I can imagine. And Lane Staley had such a unique voice too, that's nobody else really sounds like it's interesting. And then so do you have do you have anything this weekend that we should know about that we should plug?

42:30 Speaker 6: Uh this weekend? I this is my last thing this weekend, this radio kidding. Yeah, yeah, I have the night off. Actually usually I don't have on you for having a little down time. Yeah, yeah, I'm want to go home and try to write something new this week. I'm doing a next week let me see here, let.

42:47 Speaker 1: Me Yeah, yeah, that's the problem.

42:50 Speaker 6: It's all the different shows.

42:52 Speaker 14: But that's great that you're getting out and getting to play all these shows.

42:54 Speaker 1: That's a good problem to have. That Wait a minute, let me see where.

43:00 Speaker 6: Do you mind if I no, no, yeah, hawkaway. Thursday November fourteenth, I'll be at Kilkenny Pub in Keene, New Hampshire. It's a fun spot. Friday November fifteenth, I'll be at the Whiskey Tavern and Laconia, New Hampshire. And then Saturday I will be at Foster's Tavern in Alton Bay, New Hampshire.

43:21 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very good, very good. Do you Does your show schedule slow down at all in the winter Some some artists like to hibernate a little bit. Yeah, it's it's not as much fun in the winter as the summer, at least from from my perspective.

43:35 Speaker 6: As far as during I totally agree with that. It's you know, I've been trying.

43:41 Speaker 11: You know.

43:42 Speaker 6: My My goal is like, if I can just get three gigs a week, I'm fine with that. I'll make it through the winter. Yeah. So, I mean it's been okay, you know, with the summer obviously it fills up a lot quick.

43:52 Speaker 7: Yeah.

43:53 Speaker 6: So I'm doing all right right now. I'm I should be able to do it. I'm hoping I can. Yeah, we'll see though. Yeah, last winter I didn't. I was doing maybe like two shows a week.

44:05 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, And you know that's that's how it is up here in the winter. Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You know, there's the unpredictability of the weather, and there's all kinds of factors cold and flu season and all of it.

44:17 Speaker 5: Yeah.

44:20 Speaker 1: What should people know about how to find you online? To keep up with everything that you're doing.

44:23 Speaker 6: Yeah, you will give me a follow on Instagram. That's Jack and Cora J A C k A N C O r A. Same for Facebook, Jack and Cora. I post my shows, I post, you know, all the details on those, and then I always I'll be posting some updates on releasing singles and whatnot, and then that'll be in the near future.

44:46 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very good, Yeah, very good. Jack, thank you so much. This has been wonderful. We'll definitely have to do this again in the future.

44:53 Speaker 6: I'd love to thank you for having me. I really appreciate it, you guys. This is what you guys are doing for musicians is so awesome. I really appreciate it.

45:01 Speaker 1: Look, Locket, I am so spoiled.

45:04 Speaker 14: I get to hang out here with Matt on Saturdays and have my own personal concerts.

45:09 Speaker 4: Yeah.

45:10 Speaker 14: Thanks, Yeah, we know I'm spoiled. I look at this as being spoiled.

45:14 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, we love it. We love it all right, Jack, thank you so much, and the great Jack and Cora