Matt Connarton Unleashed: Daniel Schamroth

0:01 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a voice. What a great song too.

0:03 Speaker 1: That is Skyscraper. That is Daniel Shamrock all the way

0:06 Speaker 1: from the UK, and I believe we have him on Skype.

0:08 Speaker 2: Daniel, is that you?

0:10 Speaker 3: I'm here? Yeah, can you hear me?

0:11 Speaker 4: Okay?

0:12 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, Welcome to the program. I love that song.

0:15 Speaker 3: Oh cheers, Matt, thanks for having me.

0:17 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. By the way, where in the UK are you? Exactly?

0:21 Speaker 4: So, I'm down in the southwest of England in the UK,

0:25 Speaker 4: which is well, I'm actually in a place called Plymouth

0:28 Speaker 4: at the moment, which is I think you've got a

0:30 Speaker 4: place called Plymouth where you are?

0:32 Speaker 1: We we do, we have we have all kinds of uh,

0:35 Speaker 1: especially in this part of the country. Of course, we

0:37 Speaker 1: have all kinds of cities with duplicate names. I'm in Manchester,

0:40 Speaker 1: for example, and of.

0:41 Speaker 4: Course exactly I was. I was on Google Maps having

0:45 Speaker 4: like earlier. It's like it's mad there's like Portsmouth, which

0:47 Speaker 4: we've got Portsmouth, yea, Manchester, yeah, Plymouth, Yeah, you know

0:52 Speaker 4: New England obviously, yeah.

0:54 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Uh well, so welcome to the show. Tell

0:58 Speaker 2: me about the Tell me about these.

0:59 Speaker 1: Home demo songs, because my understanding is from what I read.

1:04 Speaker 1: So these are these have all been recorded before, but

1:06 Speaker 1: these are new versions of them, kind of stripped down

1:08 Speaker 1: and acoustic.

1:10 Speaker 4: These are no these are just literally just home home

1:12 Speaker 4: demos oh okay, bedroom recordings. So so that that that

1:16 Speaker 4: song there, Skyscraper, I recorded that with a friend of

1:19 Speaker 4: mine just in his bedroom.

1:21 Speaker 3: Set up a few years ago, oh.

1:23 Speaker 4: Okay, and I forgot all about it and he found

1:26 Speaker 4: it on his laptop one night when we were drunk.

1:28 Speaker 4: He was like, oh, I found this song. I was like,

1:30 Speaker 4: this actually sounds pretty cool. So I sent it to

1:32 Speaker 4: my label and they were like, they were like, they

1:34 Speaker 4: loved it, and they just wanted to put it straight out.

1:36 Speaker 4: So we've we've been putting out as like a series

1:38 Speaker 4: of just demo recordings. Oh but earlier this year, I

1:42 Speaker 4: recorded a record with Grammy winning producer Cooled Guy Massey,

1:48 Speaker 4: which was a which is a really good experience. He's

1:50 Speaker 4: recorded like he was at Abbey Road for ten years.

1:53 Speaker 4: He's worked with like on Beatles records, and he worked

1:56 Speaker 4: with Oasis and some really big you know, some big artists.

2:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was that was amazing.

2:03 Speaker 4: But yeah, we've just been kind of going with the

2:05 Speaker 4: kind of homemade home demos the last few releases, and

2:09 Speaker 4: it seems to be going down really well. People really

2:11 Speaker 4: like it.

2:11 Speaker 2: I think now they sound incredible.

2:13 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of stunned when you say that you

2:16 Speaker 1: had recorded that song and then you kind of forgot

2:19 Speaker 1: about it, because it's so good.

2:20 Speaker 2: It's like, how do you forget about it? But that's amazing.

2:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, I write, I write lots of songs, so I

2:26 Speaker 4: just kind of, yeah, I've kind of always written lots

2:29 Speaker 4: of songs and then yeah, I've just kind of forgotten

2:30 Speaker 4: about those ones. But yeah, I'd send it to Scott,

2:33 Speaker 4: who I worked with at the label, and he was like,

2:34 Speaker 4: we got to put this out. This is great.

2:36 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad.

2:38 Speaker 3: We I'm glad we found it that drunken night.

2:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, it's It's something we

2:46 Speaker 2: talk about a lot on the show.

2:47 Speaker 1: It's remarkable to live in a time where there's so

2:49 Speaker 1: many different ways that you can record, and yeah, you

2:52 Speaker 1: can do something like like you said, just you know,

2:54 Speaker 1: recording something in somebody's bedroom and have it, you know,

2:57 Speaker 1: just come out so great, and then and then able

3:00 Speaker 1: to put it out and it just sounds you know,

3:02 Speaker 1: when you have something that sounds like it could have

3:05 Speaker 1: been recorded that way or it could have been recorded

3:07 Speaker 1: in a million dollar studio, you don't know the difference exactly.

3:10 Speaker 3: I mean that there's subtle, subtle differences that you hear.

3:13 Speaker 4: I mean the acoustic the record I recorded earlier this year,

3:16 Speaker 4: and that was in a big studio in London, and

3:19 Speaker 4: you know, we put some live strings on it and

3:21 Speaker 4: it had so few it's quite an acoustic record, but

3:23 Speaker 4: it's got a few touches to it, so you can

3:25 Speaker 4: sort of subtly hear the differences. Whereas but yeah, there's

3:29 Speaker 4: not a huge difference in a way, you know, like

3:31 Speaker 4: and what I'm doing just with these home demos because

3:34 Speaker 4: it's just me and a guitar and a voice. You know,

3:36 Speaker 4: there's there's not that much production involved. Really, it's just

3:39 Speaker 4: if you get the vocals sounding nice, to get the

3:41 Speaker 4: guitar sounding level, you know, you're away.

3:43 Speaker 2: You know absolutely. Are there more of these coming or

3:48 Speaker 2: have you released?

3:49 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, we literally just released a new another home

3:53 Speaker 4: demo yesterday. I'm releasing like one one track a month.

3:56 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I can find you can you can find

3:58 Speaker 4: these all in my Spotify if you go to Daniel

4:01 Speaker 4: Shamrock on Spotify, you'll you'll hear you'll find all of these.

4:05 Speaker 4: I released a song yesterday called sol on Fire, and

4:08 Speaker 4: then we're going to be releasing yeah, every every every

4:11 Speaker 4: month going into next year.

4:12 Speaker 3: So yeah, keep an eye out if you want to

4:14 Speaker 3: hear some more music.

4:15 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that Soul on Fire. Well, I

4:18 Speaker 1: do have it in front of me here. We'll actually

4:20 Speaker 1: play that when we and the segment.

4:22 Speaker 4: What's that wicked?

4:23 Speaker 3: Thank you very much?

4:24 Speaker 1: Absolutely no, no, glad to do it. Yeah, no, I

4:26 Speaker 1: was going to play I was going to play something

4:28 Speaker 1: of yours at the end, and that's that's perfect since

4:31 Speaker 1: it just came out. How many how many more of

4:33 Speaker 1: these do you have? You say, so you're releasing one

4:35 Speaker 1: a month. How many more do you have or do

4:37 Speaker 1: you even know yet? Are you still finding? Are you

4:40 Speaker 1: still finding things?

4:42 Speaker 4: I've got a few more from this from this session

4:44 Speaker 4: that we did a few years ago. Yeah, I'm going

4:46 Speaker 4: to be releasing a few more of these, and then

4:48 Speaker 4: I'm going back into the studio early next year and

4:51 Speaker 4: I'll record some some I've allad the new stuff that

4:54 Speaker 4: I want to want to record, so I'll be releasing

4:56 Speaker 4: lots of new music, so yeah, there's plenty, plenty more

4:59 Speaker 4: where that came from.

5:00 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. I'm curious about influences, especially in terms of

5:06 Speaker 1: not only your songwriting, but you're singing. I love your

5:09 Speaker 1: voice and you've you've got one of those voices.

5:12 Speaker 4: You know.

5:13 Speaker 1: You You kind of remind me a little bit of

5:14 Speaker 1: some different people, but I can't quite pin it down.

5:17 Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone who sounded exactly likely.

5:19 Speaker 3: But I was gonna say, who do I remind you of?

5:21 Speaker 3: Because I find that interesting?

5:22 Speaker 2: Yeah?

5:23 Speaker 1: Well, actually, oh what the hell? The guy from I

5:29 Speaker 1: can't I can't remember his name, but the singer from

5:31 Speaker 1: the band America. Are you familiar with that band?

5:34 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I know I know them.

5:36 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you kind of you kind

5:38 Speaker 2: of remind me of him.

5:38 Speaker 1: I cannot remember his name, Unfortunately, it's in the it's

5:42 Speaker 1: in the back of my brain. But yeah, I was

5:44 Speaker 1: thinking about that. Yeah, yeah, but like who who's a

5:47 Speaker 1: big influence on you?

5:50 Speaker 4: So? I grew up over here in the UK with

5:52 Speaker 4: the like britpop in the nineties, so it was all

5:54 Speaker 4: kind of Oasis and Blur and yeah, those kind of

5:56 Speaker 4: English britpop bands, but also so that was a big influence.

6:00 Speaker 4: Oasis were a big influence on me, but also kind

6:04 Speaker 4: of Sixties bands like Beatles and you know, the Stones

6:08 Speaker 4: and the Kinks and all those kind of bands, and

6:10 Speaker 4: then lots of singer songwriters, you know, massively into like

6:13 Speaker 4: Neil Young, Bob Dylan, you know, all those kind of guys,

6:17 Speaker 4: just people that sit you know, you can do something

6:20 Speaker 4: with a guitar, just guitar and a vocal and a song.

6:22 Speaker 4: You know. I've always loved that kind of simplistic approach,

6:26 Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, So yeah, all that kind of stuff,

6:29 Speaker 4: really loads of stuff. Tom Petty, I love, I love

6:32 Speaker 4: Tom Petty. I was listening to I was watching the

6:35 Speaker 4: Tom Petty documentary a few nights ago, the one about

6:39 Speaker 4: what you know you're a Tom Petty fan.

6:41 Speaker 2: I am. I'm a casual fan. I don't you know.

6:44 Speaker 2: I never had all the albums. But you have to understand.

6:47 Speaker 1: You have to understand in America, if you turn on

6:49 Speaker 1: any classic rock station and you listen for an hour,

6:52 Speaker 1: you're going to hear a Tom Petty song.

6:54 Speaker 4: So you can hear Tom Petty song. Yeah, yeah, So

6:57 Speaker 4: I'm a big Tom petty fan. I love some of

6:59 Speaker 4: his like more sort of solo acoustic y stuff as well. Yeah,

7:04 Speaker 4: so yeah, loads of stuff, loads of stuff. But yeah,

7:07 Speaker 4: big big Beatles fan. That's one of my kind of

7:10 Speaker 4: major loves musically, is you know all the Lena McCartney

7:14 Speaker 4: stuff and yeah, yeah, I love all of that. Yeah.

7:17 Speaker 1: Now, based on what you've told me, I assume that

7:20 Speaker 1: you started writing songs at a really young age.

7:22 Speaker 2: Am I correct?

7:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, So basically I picked up the guitar when I

7:27 Speaker 4: picked up my dad's guitar when I was probably ten

7:31 Speaker 4: or something, ten or eleven, Yeah, and just as soon

7:35 Speaker 4: as I could play like three chords, I just started

7:38 Speaker 4: trying to write songs. And it was this really weird thing,

7:40 Speaker 4: like I don't know where that came from. You know,

7:42 Speaker 4: I've had no musical training or you know, no formal

7:46 Speaker 4: classes or anything like that, but I just kind of

7:49 Speaker 4: just felt compelled to kind of try and carve a

7:52 Speaker 4: song out out of something, you know, and that's just

7:55 Speaker 4: always stayed with me. So yeah, I just love I

7:57 Speaker 4: love writing songs. That's just what I do.

8:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting what you say about how you don't

8:02 Speaker 1: even know where it came from, because you didn't have

8:04 Speaker 1: any musical training, and I've I've kind of realized over

8:06 Speaker 1: the years. I think I think music is one of

8:08 Speaker 1: the few things well, actually, well, let me broaden it

8:10 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I think creating art, yeah, more

8:13 Speaker 1: broadly is one of those few things that can be

8:15 Speaker 1: just just really sort of intuitive for some people, because

8:19 Speaker 1: you know, anything else that you try to do, you

8:22 Speaker 1: have to kind of you know, there's some sort of

8:24 Speaker 1: training involved. If you want to be a nuclear physicist,

8:27 Speaker 1: for example, you know, that's not something you can intuitively

8:29 Speaker 1: figure out. But when it comes to when it comes

8:33 Speaker 1: to music, people people are some people are able to

8:36 Speaker 1: just kind of intuitively figured out figure out how to

8:38 Speaker 1: play guitar, figure out how to sing. Most of the

8:41 Speaker 1: vocalists I talked to you never had any formal training.

8:43 Speaker 1: They just they just can do it.

8:45 Speaker 4: Definitely. I mean obviously you can. You can learn tricks,

8:48 Speaker 4: and you can learn ways of doing things. I mean,

8:50 Speaker 4: like I'm not I always say like I'm not a

8:52 Speaker 4: great musician. You know, I'm a I'm a good steady

8:56 Speaker 4: rhythm guitarist.

8:57 Speaker 3: You know I can.

8:58 Speaker 4: But for me, I sit down on with a guitar

9:00 Speaker 4: and that that's just a tool so I can find

9:03 Speaker 4: a melody and come up with the song. You know,

9:04 Speaker 4: That's what it's all about for me. Yeah, but yeah,

9:07 Speaker 4: I mean if you listen to my songs when I

9:09 Speaker 4: was like fifteen, you know, compared to now, there's been

9:13 Speaker 4: a progression.

9:13 Speaker 3: I'd like to think there's been a big progression, you know.

9:16 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, in the way I write lyrics, you know,

9:20 Speaker 4: just with a bit more life experience, you know that

9:21 Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and you do hone your craft as

9:24 Speaker 4: you get older, of course, but yeah, some of those,

9:27 Speaker 4: some of those songs I wrote when I was like thirteen,

9:29 Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't really want anyone to play from

9:32 Speaker 4: the radio, you know what I mean?

9:34 Speaker 2: Right right?

9:35 Speaker 1: Well, so I am curious did any of that really

9:38 Speaker 1: early material survive. I can't remember who it was, but

9:41 Speaker 1: I had one guest on the show who had written

9:43 Speaker 1: a song when he was like twelve years old, and

9:45 Speaker 1: I asked him do you still play that today? And

9:48 Speaker 1: not expecting him to say yes, and he was like, yeah,

9:50 Speaker 1: actually I do.

9:51 Speaker 4: I was like, wow, listen, no, any songs I wrote

9:55 Speaker 4: from that age have been hidden away, hidden in a

9:58 Speaker 4: safe and locked away. He has been thrown away.

10:02 Speaker 2: Do you remember the first song you ever wrote.

10:05 Speaker 4: You'll laugh about this. I can't believe I'm actually saying

10:07 Speaker 4: this out loud, but yeah, So one of the first

10:10 Speaker 4: songs I ever wrote was a song called the Guy

10:11 Speaker 4: Upstairs as an Alien, and I can still yeah, I'm

10:16 Speaker 4: not going to sing it for you now, but I

10:17 Speaker 4: can still sort of remember the melody of that.

10:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that, you know.

10:21 Speaker 4: But I was just I was just kind of learning

10:23 Speaker 4: how to put words and you know, make things rhyme,

10:27 Speaker 4: and just just learning the basics, you know. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

10:31 Speaker 4: it's just been It's always been something that I've just

10:33 Speaker 4: been curious about and loved, you know. Yeah, and that

10:37 Speaker 4: never goes away, you know, and I think I'll be

10:40 Speaker 4: tinkering around on the guitar, you know, into my old age.

10:43 Speaker 4: You know.

10:43 Speaker 3: It's just something I absolutely love.

10:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, Is that what comes first for you when you write?

10:48 Speaker 1: Is a melody on the guitar? Or do lyrics ever

10:51 Speaker 1: come first?

10:52 Speaker 4: It comes in different ways, so yeah, sometimes sometimes it

10:55 Speaker 4: all comes out in one go, like it all just

10:57 Speaker 4: kind of falls out, and those are generally the best songs,

10:59 Speaker 4: Like it just falls out effortlessly and it's like the

11:04 Speaker 4: chords the melody, all the changes and the breaks. It

11:07 Speaker 4: will just kind of just comes out and we'll go

11:08 Speaker 4: and you've got to quickly grab a paper and pen

11:10 Speaker 4: and just get it down. But then sometimes you've got

11:13 Speaker 4: to really work at work at a song and chip

11:15 Speaker 4: away at it and you know what's what you know

11:17 Speaker 4: what what what word rhymes with that? Or you know

11:19 Speaker 4: what am I going to do on this after this chorus?

11:21 Speaker 4: Or you know. So it works in different ways, but generally,

11:26 Speaker 4: normally I'll kind of play a few chords and then

11:29 Speaker 4: and then the melody will come in and it will

11:30 Speaker 4: just kind of take on a life of its own.

11:32 Speaker 4: But but yeah, I just love just grabbing something out

11:35 Speaker 4: of the air. You start with nothing and then suddenly

11:37 Speaker 4: you've got this this song, you know, out of out

11:39 Speaker 4: thin air almost and it's like a magical, magical experience, right,

11:43 Speaker 4: I love it? Right?

11:44 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely?

11:46 Speaker 1: Now, So tell me about what happens when you play live?

11:49 Speaker 1: Do you Is it always just you solo? Or do

11:52 Speaker 1: other musicians join you?

11:53 Speaker 2: Or how does that? Or maybe you have a band

11:54 Speaker 2: I don't.

11:54 Speaker 4: Know for like, for the for the last few years,

11:59 Speaker 4: I was playing in an indie band called the Loft Club.

12:01 Speaker 4: Oh okay, And we were actually signed to we were

12:04 Speaker 4: signed to an American label actually in LA and so yeah,

12:09 Speaker 4: that was kind of my thing. It was my songs,

12:10 Speaker 4: but with a band, it was kind of kind of

12:12 Speaker 4: like a slightly old country indie kind of vibe. And

12:18 Speaker 4: that was all going really well, and then we had

12:20 Speaker 4: a coronavirus lockdown down and that kind of kind of

12:23 Speaker 4: blew everything out of the water a bit. But now

12:26 Speaker 4: I'm just kind of just doing me and a guitar,

12:28 Speaker 4: just me going out and playing, playing solo. I'm going

12:31 Speaker 4: to be doing some shows and going into next year

12:33 Speaker 4: and maybe with a band as well, just to kind

12:36 Speaker 4: of pad it out a bit. But it's it's very

12:38 Speaker 4: stripped down, just mostly just me and a.

12:39 Speaker 1: Guitar, okay, okay, which is nice in a sense, right

12:44 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, being in a band is

12:46 Speaker 1: great and all, but at least when it's just you

12:47 Speaker 1: and a guitar, you know, it's certainly simplifive things. You've

12:51 Speaker 1: got more there's more places you can play, and you

12:53 Speaker 1: don't have to work around anyone else's schedule, and.

12:56 Speaker 4: So that's exactly yeah, yeah, there's less people to fall

12:59 Speaker 4: out with.

13:00 Speaker 3: You started and start an argument with yourself, you know exactly.

13:04 Speaker 1: I've played in a lot of bands, but I never

13:05 Speaker 1: did a solo acoustic thing. So I've always been a

13:07 Speaker 1: little bit you know, I've always wondered what that must

13:09 Speaker 1: be like and the you know, the freedom that comes

13:11 Speaker 1: with that.

13:12 Speaker 2: What did you say the name of what did you say?

13:14 Speaker 2: The name of the band?

13:15 Speaker 4: Was the Last que the Loft as in like up

13:18 Speaker 4: in the Lost the Loft t Yeah, the Loft Club.

13:22 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Now that is anything that you did with

13:25 Speaker 2: that band? Is that available online?

13:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all on That's all on Spotify, So you

13:30 Speaker 4: can go and go and hear that as well. We

13:31 Speaker 4: did a collaboration with Lisa Lobe if you know Lisa Lobe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

13:37 Speaker 4: we did a song. We did a song with her

13:39 Speaker 4: actually called which is a song minaeled Flicker and she

13:43 Speaker 4: put a verse on on one of the songs and

13:45 Speaker 4: that actually got onto the Billboard chart.

13:47 Speaker 3: So that was a kind of a song that kind

13:50 Speaker 3: of did something in America.

13:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can you can go and he hear

13:54 Speaker 4: that on Spotify.

13:56 Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's very cool.

13:59 Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to get back to being

14:01 Speaker 1: in a band or I mean it sounds like the

14:03 Speaker 1: solo acoustic things working out pretty well.

14:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really enjoying doing what I'm doing at the moment,

14:07 Speaker 4: to be honest. It's you know, I've got a really

14:09 Speaker 4: good label that I work with here in the UK,

14:11 Speaker 4: and and we just we.

14:13 Speaker 3: Just work really well together.

14:15 Speaker 4: And you know, I get a song, I can record, record,

14:18 Speaker 4: they put the record out and suddenly it's out on

14:20 Speaker 4: Spotfy and it's just it's just a nice, nice, nice

14:23 Speaker 4: setup and it seemed to work really well. So yeah,

14:26 Speaker 4: I'm kind of happy doing doing things as they are

14:28 Speaker 4: at the moment. I'll probably put a little band together

14:30 Speaker 4: to go and to do some of these songs next year,

14:33 Speaker 4: as I said. But but yeah, yeah, I'm happy as

14:36 Speaker 4: I am, I think.

14:37 Speaker 2: And then now, so you're working with Guy Massey. Has

14:40 Speaker 2: that already begun or is that coming up?

14:43 Speaker 4: Yeah? So that's that's the record. That's the record I

14:45 Speaker 4: did earlier this year, earlier this year, so it's called

14:49 Speaker 4: so that's that's when we recorded in London. So that's

14:53 Speaker 4: that was called Major Companion and it's a six track EP. Yeah,

14:59 Speaker 4: And I was talking about him earlier. So Guy's kind

15:01 Speaker 4: of he's won two Grammy Awards. He's like, yeah, he'

15:04 Speaker 4: remastered all the Beatles records and yeah, he's just worked

15:07 Speaker 4: with like everybody. So that was like a really cool

15:11 Speaker 4: experience for me to go and to go and see

15:13 Speaker 4: how he works, you know, and be in his in

15:15 Speaker 4: his world. So that was yeah, that was super cool. Yeah,

15:19 Speaker 4: and we put we put some strings on a couple

15:20 Speaker 4: of the couple of the tracks and we recorded in

15:23 Speaker 4: a studio called conk In in London, which is belongs

15:28 Speaker 4: to the Kinks. It's the Kinks recording studio. So that

15:31 Speaker 4: was that was a really cool experience.

15:33 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Oh that's extremely cool.

15:35 Speaker 4: Yeah.

15:36 Speaker 1: Is that intimidating at all working with somebody like Guy Massey?

15:40 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, he's a heavy show.

15:42 Speaker 3: Yeah.

15:42 Speaker 4: I really thought it was going to be and then

15:45 Speaker 4: I met him and he just got completely just put

15:47 Speaker 4: put me at ease, Like within seconds, he was just like, yeah,

15:50 Speaker 4: come in, have a couple of you know, sit down

15:53 Speaker 4: and chatting him. He's called his you know, gold Records

15:55 Speaker 4: on the Wall or whatever, you know, and I was like, whoa.

15:59 Speaker 4: But he's just really to a really lovely guy and

16:03 Speaker 4: an amazing producer, like really cool guy to work with.

16:06 Speaker 4: You know, we had a lot to talk about. You know,

16:08 Speaker 4: we're into the same kind a lot of the records

16:10 Speaker 4: that I loved growing up listening to in my teams.

16:12 Speaker 4: Like he was involved in the in the recording, so

16:15 Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, it was like it was quite

16:18 Speaker 4: a big deal for me. But yeah, really great guy

16:22 Speaker 4: and a great producer.

16:24 Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned this is a little off subject,

16:26 Speaker 1: but I'm just curious because you mentioned Oesis earlier.

16:29 Speaker 2: What what how.

16:30 Speaker 1: Are things looking over there? Did they already they haven't

16:32 Speaker 1: played those shows yet, right, I know, I know take

16:35 Speaker 1: on sale, but no.

16:37 Speaker 4: So so so with my band The Love Club, we

16:39 Speaker 4: actually managed to support Nol Gallagher. Oh my god, ago,

16:42 Speaker 4: which was which is this amazing experience at this at

16:46 Speaker 4: this old castle they do these big outdoor gigs at

16:48 Speaker 4: the place called Powderham Castle and and that was that

16:52 Speaker 4: was like he's like one of my heroes. So that

16:54 Speaker 4: was like an amazing and amazing thing to get anywhere

16:58 Speaker 4: near Oh yeah, being on the.

16:59 Speaker 3: Stage with him. So that was a real highlight for me.

17:03 Speaker 4: But yeah, so when when I heard they're getting back together,

17:05 Speaker 4: it was like, you know, me and all my friends

17:06 Speaker 4: who are big Oasis fans were like, you know, very excited,

17:09 Speaker 4: but there was this big clamor for tickets, and you know,

17:11 Speaker 4: tickets were going for like stupid money, you know. Yeah,

17:15 Speaker 4: three four hundred pounds of tickets and sometimes five hundred

17:19 Speaker 4: pounds a ticket, you know. Yeah, so it's it's a

17:23 Speaker 4: big deal. Yeah, a big deal over here for sure.

17:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

17:26 Speaker 1: Oasis is one of my favorite bands from the nineties

17:29 Speaker 1: and my my favorite oh yeah, Acquiess is my favorite

17:34 Speaker 1: Oasis song, which originally was a B side, but but

17:37 Speaker 1: then they performed it on Saturday Night Live.

17:40 Speaker 2: I was like, how cool was that performing a B side?

17:44 Speaker 4: Totally And that's why I love no Gallagher because some

17:46 Speaker 4: of his best songs were B sides, you know. Yeah,

17:49 Speaker 4: and that song, that song Skyscraper that I wrote, it's

17:51 Speaker 4: kind of people have said to me, it sounds a

17:53 Speaker 4: bit like a like an Oasis B side or something.

17:55 Speaker 4: It's got that kind of vibe to it. I think, yeah,

18:00 Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah. Some of my favorite favorite records of

18:03 Speaker 4: theirs are the kind of hidden the hidden gems that

18:05 Speaker 4: you know you find on a B side somewhere.

18:08 Speaker 2: Yeah.

18:09 Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of a British thing where

18:12 Speaker 1: artists will put, well, we'll put on a B side

18:16 Speaker 1: something that is not available anywhere else, because a lot

18:19 Speaker 1: of them, like when I was growing up, I noticed it,

18:21 Speaker 1: a lot of American artists, the B side is just

18:24 Speaker 1: another song on the album, you know what I mean.

18:27 Speaker 1: But but a lot of British artists seem to really

18:30 Speaker 1: insist on making the B side something completely separate that

18:34 Speaker 1: you can't get anywhere else, which I always thought was

18:36 Speaker 1: really cool.

18:38 Speaker 4: Definitely, I think it started with with the Beatles because

18:40 Speaker 4: they were really wanted to make sure that the fan

18:43 Speaker 4: sort I saw an interview with Paul McCartney talking about this,

18:45 Speaker 4: and he was like he wanted to make sure that

18:47 Speaker 4: the fans were getting the most for their money. So

18:50 Speaker 4: when they when they'd buy the when they'd buy the

18:52 Speaker 4: you know, the seven inch single or whatever, you know,

18:56 Speaker 4: they try and make sure that there was a lot

18:57 Speaker 4: of good material on there. So they try and make

18:59 Speaker 4: sure that the side was as good as the A side,

19:01 Speaker 4: just like you know, like the double A sides and

19:03 Speaker 4: all of that stuff. And so I think it was

19:06 Speaker 4: just what Oasis we're doing was trying to continue that

19:08 Speaker 4: tradition of trying to give people good quality music. You

19:11 Speaker 4: know that paying money for a for a single, you know,

19:13 Speaker 4: and they want to make sure that they get two

19:15 Speaker 4: good songs. It's not just one one good song and

19:17 Speaker 4: a and a filler on the b side, you know.

19:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I always respected that.

19:22 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Noel is one of those guys

19:24 Speaker 1: too who's always writing, so you know.

19:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense.

19:27 Speaker 1: He's he's got plenty of music. Oh yeah, absolutely.

19:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not he's not sure of a song or

19:33 Speaker 3: too for sure.

19:36 Speaker 2: So what so, so what do you have? What do

19:38 Speaker 2: you have coming up? Daniel?

19:39 Speaker 1: So you've got you're you're continuing to release Uh are

19:42 Speaker 1: these homedown?

19:44 Speaker 4: I was once a month, that's it. So yeah, song

19:47 Speaker 4: came out yesterday's song on Fire and then there'll be

19:50 Speaker 4: some We'll be releasing the song every month going into

19:53 Speaker 4: the new year. I'll be going back into the studio

19:56 Speaker 4: early next year to record some new stuff and then

19:59 Speaker 4: and then going out and doing some shows and hopefully

20:01 Speaker 4: some festivals next summer.

20:02 Speaker 2: Outstanding outstanding, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any any plans to get

20:06 Speaker 2: to America in the future.

20:09 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we were really close to having an American

20:11 Speaker 4: tour with the band. It was all being lined up

20:14 Speaker 4: and then and then because we did the now Gallagher

20:17 Speaker 4: support and then the album came out, and then everything

20:20 Speaker 4: was going great. And then we got some American radio

20:23 Speaker 4: and that was all going great. And then and then

20:24 Speaker 4: they were going to bring us over for a tour

20:26 Speaker 4: because it was obviously an American label. Yeah, and then

20:30 Speaker 4: and then obviously coronavirus hit, so we couldn't go anywhere.

20:33 Speaker 4: You know. It was like no one could do anything,

20:34 Speaker 4: and it just really like not the stuffing out of

20:37 Speaker 4: the whole the whole thing. But yeah, I'd love to

20:39 Speaker 4: I'd love to come over. I'd love to come over

20:41 Speaker 4: at some point. So yeah, in the future, i'd love

20:43 Speaker 4: to come. And I've been to America a few times

20:45 Speaker 4: and I absolutely love it. You know, spent some time

20:49 Speaker 4: in Seattle and Miami and a few other places, so yeah,

20:53 Speaker 4: I love it. Nice.

20:54 Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah.

20:55 Speaker 1: Seattle's obviously a very in terms of American music, a

20:59 Speaker 1: very influencedential place, especially in the nineties.

21:02 Speaker 2: You know all those all those bands.

21:03 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Nirvana and yeah, Jimmy Hendrix.

21:07 Speaker 3: Is that's the whole thing from Seattle, isn't it.

21:10 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, there you go. I forgot about that.

21:12 Speaker 1: I forgot that I forgot that he came from there. Yeah,

21:15 Speaker 1: that's right, absolutely, Uh, Daniel, Where should people go online

21:18 Speaker 1: to keep track of everything that you're doing so they

21:20 Speaker 1: can keep up, especially with these new and by the way,

21:23 Speaker 1: we would love to be sort of one of your

21:25 Speaker 1: American radio partners in these promoting these singers as they

21:29 Speaker 1: come out. If you know, if you send them to us,

21:30 Speaker 1: well we'll play them, we'll premiere them here.

21:32 Speaker 4: Brilliant.

21:33 Speaker 3: I really appreciate that. Yeah, well there'll be one a month.

21:35 Speaker 2: Excellent.

21:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, you won't be sure of a

21:39 Speaker 4: few songs, but yeah, so you can, you can, you can.

21:42 Speaker 4: If you want to hear anything, going to my Spotify

21:43 Speaker 4: is probably the best thing. So just to go Daniel

21:46 Speaker 4: Shamrock and you'll find me there. And then if you

21:49 Speaker 4: want to come chat to me on on socials, I'm

21:53 Speaker 4: on Instagram, you know all those kind of platforms. Just

21:57 Speaker 4: if you just go to act Daniel Shamrock, you can.

22:00 Speaker 4: I'm in there, come and chat to me there and

22:02 Speaker 4: see what I'm up to.

22:03 Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding. All right, So we're gonna we're going to

22:06 Speaker 1: close out the conversation with this this track, Soul on Fire.

22:09 Speaker 2: This just came out yesterday.

22:10 Speaker 3: You said it just came out yesterday.

22:12 Speaker 2: Yes, brand new, outstanding. Has this been on American radio

22:15 Speaker 2: at all?

22:16 Speaker 4: But you know, I think this is a I think

22:18 Speaker 4: this is the premiere on American radio. So you're the first.

22:21 Speaker 2: Awesome. We love it. We love to do that.