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1:12 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone, it's that time again, eleven pm on Tuesday night,

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1:39 Speaker 1: So I have a guest who's supposed to be calling in,

1:43 Speaker 1: although he's late, which is very unlike him. So I'm

1:47 Speaker 1: going to send him a text while I talk. I'm

1:52 Speaker 1: gonna try to do I'm gonna try to basically talk

1:54 Speaker 1: and chew gum at the same time. Here, I'm gonna

1:56 Speaker 1: try to send Dez the Gift a text while I

2:01 Speaker 1: introduced this show. Well, it would be a very short text.

2:04 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's time. Dz the Gift is the

2:07 Speaker 1: host of The Hustle Report, a very popular hip hop

2:10 Speaker 1: show here on ipmnation dot com. It's been on the

2:12 Speaker 1: air with us for a few years and he actually

2:15 Speaker 1: he does a bunch of things. He's a hip hop

2:17 Speaker 1: artist and a music empresario.

2:20 Speaker 3: You know.

2:20 Speaker 1: He has his own record label, Massive Hustle Records. He produces,

2:24 Speaker 1: he does the radio show, does a lot of touring.

2:26 Speaker 1: He actually has his own radio channel here on ipmnation

2:30 Speaker 1: dot com, the Massive Hustle Channel, So definitely check that out.

2:33 Speaker 1: A lot of cool stuff on there. Check out his

2:36 Speaker 1: check out his tunes, some of the artists he works with.

2:40 Speaker 1: Check out the Hustle Report. It's a great show, really

2:43 Speaker 1: really cool. Right before we went on the air, I

2:46 Speaker 1: saw a oh, DZ is texting me back and he

2:51 Speaker 1: is saying, okay, so d Z should be calling in.

2:55 Speaker 4: And by the way.

2:57 Speaker 1: Right before I got on the air, I got a

2:58 Speaker 1: Facebook message from Trish the Dish, who is probably very

3:02 Speaker 1: far most of our listeners should be familiar with ipmnation

3:05 Speaker 1: dot com listeners.

3:06 Speaker 4: She's been on a couple of different.

3:08 Speaker 1: Shows on the station, but she asked if I had

3:11 Speaker 1: had a chance to see tonight's Republican debate, and unfortunately

3:15 Speaker 1: I missed it. I had to do a hypnosis session

3:18 Speaker 1: at our office and conquered. For those of you who

3:20 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm also a hypnotist. I probably don't sound

3:23 Speaker 1: very relaxing and hypnotizing when I'm on the air doing

3:27 Speaker 1: this show because I'm amped up. But anyway, here's zz DZ.

3:31 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.

3:31 Speaker 5: My friend John, how you doing good. How are you, man,

3:35 Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good.

3:37 Speaker 4: Well, listen, we.

3:38 Speaker 1: Haven't talked to you on the air here in a

3:39 Speaker 1: while since. I think the last time was it was

3:42 Speaker 1: quite some time ago actually, when you called into our

3:45 Speaker 1: show remote transmission that I used to do here with

3:49 Speaker 1: Dan Randlette. So I think it's been a while since

3:51 Speaker 1: we've caught up. Of course, I'm gonna see you later

3:53 Speaker 1: this week. But why don't you fill everybody in on

3:56 Speaker 1: what what you've been up to. I mentioned the Massive

3:59 Speaker 1: Hustle channel and the radio show and all that, But

4:01 Speaker 1: why don't you get us up to speed because you're

4:03 Speaker 1: a very busy man.

4:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I'm working on, like many things, I'm working

4:08 Speaker 5: on a couple of people's projects, so I really been

4:11 Speaker 5: trying to focus on that. Well, I'm working on a

4:15 Speaker 5: couple of people's projects right now. I can't really release

4:18 Speaker 5: the time names until like the dates get caught up. Sure,

4:23 Speaker 5: So I've been working on that mostly. Of course, I've

4:26 Speaker 5: been on my radio show. I just finished my one

4:30 Speaker 5: of my projects with Move Fast. I'm going to re

4:35 Speaker 5: release that soon, but it's going to be hosted by

4:38 Speaker 5: a DJ, so I'm going to really release that and

4:42 Speaker 5: I've just been you know, just trying to make every

4:44 Speaker 5: point connect.

4:47 Speaker 4: Right, right?

4:48 Speaker 1: And can you are you at liberty to say anything

4:51 Speaker 1: about this DVD that you're putting together?

4:54 Speaker 5: Oh well, technically it's oh, it's probably gonna be like

5:00 Speaker 5: a Hustle Report DVD altogether. But I don't really have

5:05 Speaker 5: like the segment set up yet, So I don't really

5:08 Speaker 5: have you know, like section It's probably gonna be like

5:11 Speaker 5: sectioned off on like titled by what whoever is hosted,

5:16 Speaker 5: you know, like whoever is on that show. I probably

5:19 Speaker 5: have it like well, bosses and then rappers and then

5:23 Speaker 5: so forth and so off. Yeah, we'll be sectioned off

5:27 Speaker 5: like that.

5:27 Speaker 1: So, so you've been doing, uh, you've been doing some

5:32 Speaker 1: When you talk about these projects that you've been working on,

5:34 Speaker 1: do you mean you're you're producing other artists?

5:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm like, well, I'm requoting other artists, you know,

5:41 Speaker 5: the regular engineer and stuff like that.

5:43 Speaker 4: Sure.

5:45 Speaker 1: Are you Are you doing more of that than your

5:47 Speaker 1: own stuff lately? Or do you kind of you kind

5:49 Speaker 1: of divided up on it?

5:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, because like I've been getting put on the extra

5:54 Speaker 5: little task here and there from other projects from like hey,

5:57 Speaker 5: that's that's been keeping me busy for a while, and

6:00 Speaker 5: I've been moving, so you know how that goes?

6:04 Speaker 4: Absolutely?

6:06 Speaker 1: And what about these projects that you're working on? Are

6:09 Speaker 1: they released on Massive Hustle records or are these for

6:12 Speaker 1: other labels or are they just completely independent?

6:15 Speaker 4: How does that work?

6:16 Speaker 5: Like various artists and like one of like one of

6:21 Speaker 5: them or two of them could be considered a Massive

6:24 Speaker 5: Hustle project or need more into like Massive Hustle more

6:29 Speaker 5: involved with than others that you pick up work for

6:32 Speaker 5: friends and then like two projects are mostly like what

6:36 Speaker 5: I'm focused on right.

6:39 Speaker 1: And now are you are you doing any more videos online?

6:43 Speaker 1: I know we have a couple up on IPM nation

6:45 Speaker 1: dot com. You did ah you did a video for

6:48 Speaker 1: crunch time and time because yeah, yeah exactly. Are you

6:53 Speaker 1: gonna be doing more of those or are you more

6:55 Speaker 1: just focused on audio right now?

6:57 Speaker 5: Well? Pretty soon if Timon works out, pretty soon, I'm

7:02 Speaker 5: gonna start to have a song called wake Up. I

7:06 Speaker 5: like I have clips for it, so I'm probably gonna

7:09 Speaker 5: finish off that video. So that's probably be the next

7:12 Speaker 5: video I come.

7:12 Speaker 6: Up with soon, very nice.

7:15 Speaker 5: And then I have a couple other videos in mine.

7:18 Speaker 5: I just you know, Timon has to all work out

7:21 Speaker 5: and everything and flow. But that's probably my next video.

7:25 Speaker 5: It should be coming up in a couple a month

7:27 Speaker 5: or so.

7:28 Speaker 4: Okay, oh very cool.

7:31 Speaker 3: Is that?

7:32 Speaker 1: Is that difficult making videos? Or I mean does a

7:35 Speaker 1: lot of work go into that? Does a lot of

7:37 Speaker 1: does a lot of set up in preparation go into that?

7:40 Speaker 1: Or do you just kind of wing it? I mean,

7:41 Speaker 1: how how does that work? I've never made a music

7:44 Speaker 1: video personally.

7:46 Speaker 5: Well, sometimes it depends how technical the song actually is.

7:49 Speaker 5: In the vision of the song. Yeah, it's just like

7:52 Speaker 5: a say, it's just one of those songs that really

7:54 Speaker 5: don't have any gap to it. It's just like a

7:57 Speaker 5: party song. Most of those can be fool like you

8:00 Speaker 5: can just win it, or if it doesn't have any

8:02 Speaker 5: like message directly and you can just win those type

8:06 Speaker 5: of videos. But if I have a message or something,

8:08 Speaker 5: usually you want to keep it around, like you know

8:12 Speaker 5: the topic and that's that that can become time consuming

8:16 Speaker 5: because like the places you might want to go and

8:19 Speaker 5: like say you have other places in other towns you

8:22 Speaker 5: want to go for locations, it could be time consuming.

8:26 Speaker 5: But like I did a video on like two hours before,

8:29 Speaker 5: but like I didn't have that many far locations, so

8:32 Speaker 5: it's all like go here, go there, go there, and

8:35 Speaker 5: then it's done.

8:36 Speaker 1: You know, do you have a crew of people that

8:39 Speaker 1: you work with when you make videos or is it

8:41 Speaker 1: is it just a couple of you with a couple

8:44 Speaker 1: of video cameras. I mean, how how extensive does that

8:47 Speaker 1: part of it get?

8:49 Speaker 5: Well, it depends how If it's it's just how it

8:53 Speaker 5: has to be. If it's a fas video that you

8:55 Speaker 5: just want to put up that you you know, one

8:58 Speaker 5: period of view, then you know it takes as much

9:01 Speaker 5: time as you put into it. Sure what was volunteering

9:05 Speaker 5: or going to help out? You know, the more people

9:07 Speaker 5: the narrative. But if you can't find the more people,

9:11 Speaker 5: then how you gotta get it done right?

9:13 Speaker 1: Right?

9:13 Speaker 4: D I y as they say?

9:15 Speaker 1: Is it when you go to different locations? This is

9:19 Speaker 1: something I was thinking about when I think it was

9:21 Speaker 1: a video for crunch Time. It looks like it's shot

9:23 Speaker 1: in a few different places. I'm curious to do you

9:26 Speaker 1: have to at the level that you're doing this, Do

9:30 Speaker 1: you have to get any kind of permission from local

9:34 Speaker 1: towns or anything that you're filming in or do you

9:36 Speaker 1: just go and do.

9:37 Speaker 5: It technically you should. Like if I say, like, if

9:43 Speaker 5: if you're going to do a big scene with a

9:45 Speaker 5: lot of people in like a field or something, you're

9:47 Speaker 5: probably gonna need some kind of permission before you like

9:51 Speaker 5: just go wing that. But if it's like if you

9:54 Speaker 5: have like a couple people and you have a couple

9:57 Speaker 5: of scenes, most of the time it's more like, oh,

10:00 Speaker 5: before anybody comes, you know, yeah, get the tlip done

10:04 Speaker 5: and keep it moving and until they show up and

10:07 Speaker 5: say you can't do that, and they keep it moving right.

10:12 Speaker 4: Exactly.

10:13 Speaker 6: It's a lot like, yeah.

10:15 Speaker 5: Our friend just lost like two thousand thouarsand on like

10:18 Speaker 5: city permits that he couldn't get his money back on.

10:22 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh that's crazy. Oh wow, yeah, primates is

10:26 Speaker 5: even high. And it's like just like and they when

10:30 Speaker 5: he said, when he told me, he's like he had

10:32 Speaker 5: to take it as a lost, I was like, oh no,

10:35 Speaker 5: Im like like pretty much the government just stoke them.

10:39 Speaker 6: Thus and I'm like, wow, well, you know, uh, all

10:43 Speaker 6: our our governments are our local you know, city and

10:46 Speaker 6: state governments are so are so broke these days that

10:50 Speaker 6: they're trying to they're looking for revenue anyway they can

10:52 Speaker 6: get it, you.

10:52 Speaker 5: Know their way through.

10:55 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, everything's everything's getting more expensive in that

10:58 Speaker 1: regard you are.

10:59 Speaker 4: You playing out at all?

11:01 Speaker 1: Are you doing any touring or any any live shows?

11:04 Speaker 1: I know you're you're you're so busy with with everything else.

11:07 Speaker 1: Do you have time to actually get out and play

11:08 Speaker 1: some shows?

11:09 Speaker 5: Not like, yeah, I do a couple of local shows

11:12 Speaker 5: handy and not like like sporadically get thrown a lot

11:15 Speaker 5: of shows. But I really don't get it to do

11:18 Speaker 5: as much as I'm going on because I got so

11:19 Speaker 5: much going on on my side to it's like more

11:21 Speaker 5: I take the ones I can or you know, or

11:25 Speaker 5: it has to be like a special ocage and kind

11:26 Speaker 5: of deal right now. Sure, But mostly I'm just working

11:31 Speaker 5: on the audio and video and trying to, you know,

11:33 Speaker 5: try to do the business side of things right.

11:36 Speaker 4: Right is.

11:39 Speaker 1: Do you have any any advice for because you've been

11:41 Speaker 1: doing this for a while and and you've had a

11:44 Speaker 1: lot of success, and you're you're very well connected. You

11:48 Speaker 1: have all these different artists that you work with who

11:50 Speaker 1: are great. I mean, you're you're doing a lot of

11:52 Speaker 1: really good stuff. Do you have any advice for young

11:54 Speaker 1: kids who are just kind of starting out in the

11:56 Speaker 1: in the hip hop game, you know how to how

11:59 Speaker 1: to get going and and what they need to do

12:01 Speaker 1: to not even necessarily get to your level, but just

12:05 Speaker 1: to get out there and get noticed and have at

12:08 Speaker 1: least a taste of success. Well, any advice, because I'm

12:12 Speaker 1: sure people ask you.

12:14 Speaker 5: Well, right now, it's like a lot of people are

12:17 Speaker 5: not willing to work with other people. I would say,

12:21 Speaker 5: try to make a connection with other people and try

12:24 Speaker 5: to like have like if you have your neighborhood, have

12:28 Speaker 5: your neighborhood involved with your project, you know, like if

12:30 Speaker 5: you have other friends that are into the music, try

12:35 Speaker 5: to put a little drive into your friends and try

12:37 Speaker 5: to make a little team because like doing stuff by

12:40 Speaker 5: yourself usually doesn't work as good as you might think.

12:44 Speaker 4: Sure, sure need one at least.

12:46 Speaker 5: Two people, three people, no matter how you look at it.

12:50 Speaker 5: So I say, don't be too arrogant, like, don't think

12:54 Speaker 5: you're better than everyone from the beginning, because we all

12:58 Speaker 5: have gold. We're all trying to get some me It's

13:01 Speaker 5: more like how can we work together to get there

13:03 Speaker 5: faster because the music is not fast. More like patience

13:08 Speaker 5: and timing and you know, studying all that other stuff.

13:13 Speaker 1: Absolutely I always say, you know, in the music industry,

13:17 Speaker 1: you got to crawl a mile just to gain an inch.

13:19 Speaker 1: And and I think what you said is true. You know,

13:22 Speaker 1: putting a team together, networking is extremely important. No man

13:27 Speaker 1: is an island, not in this business, that's for sure.

13:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, these are the people that are like solo artists.

13:33 Speaker 5: Usually it all comes down to like behind and they

13:36 Speaker 5: had five other people, six other people before they actually

13:40 Speaker 5: got Starady.

13:41 Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I mean there really is no such

13:44 Speaker 1: thing as a solo project. Yeah, you know, you can,

13:47 Speaker 1: you can call it that, but but everybody's got.

13:50 Speaker 4: People behind them.

13:51 Speaker 1: And you know, even if you go to see a

13:54 Speaker 1: solo artist perform, like say you have a band. You know,

13:57 Speaker 1: a solo artist who goes out and performs with a

14:00 Speaker 1: live band, Well, they're not really performing solo.

14:02 Speaker 4: They have a band behind them.

14:03 Speaker 1: You know, there's really it's it's uh, yeah, you can't

14:08 Speaker 1: really do it on your own. You have to you

14:10 Speaker 1: have to make those connections with other people. And especially,

14:12 Speaker 1: like you said, if you can find other people locally

14:16 Speaker 1: in your community who are interested in what you're doing,

14:19 Speaker 1: that'll go a long way. And and it and it

14:23 Speaker 1: starts with that. How did you start out. I mean,

14:26 Speaker 1: what what was your first because you wear different hats

14:29 Speaker 1: in the industry as far as what you do.

14:31 Speaker 4: Did you did you just.

14:32 Speaker 1: Start out rapping and then you decided you wanted to

14:35 Speaker 1: start a label and and do radio shows or what

14:38 Speaker 1: was the what was the beginning of of this whole

14:40 Speaker 1: thing for you?

14:41 Speaker 5: Well, pretty much the whole thing was like I started right,

14:45 Speaker 5: I was like over writer, and I just wrote all

14:48 Speaker 5: the time. And then all my friends started going to

14:51 Speaker 5: the studios, and me myself, at the point in time,

14:54 Speaker 5: I didn't have money or like a studio close enough

14:58 Speaker 5: that was actually reasonable to actually go to. So it

15:02 Speaker 5: kind of came down to and then I moved to

15:05 Speaker 5: all the like I heard about all the music stores.

15:07 Speaker 5: I just started going to music stores a lot. And

15:09 Speaker 5: then I just decided, I'm like, you know, I might

15:12 Speaker 5: as well start buying like studio equipment. So I started

15:14 Speaker 5: buying it, and I bought a couple like I bought

15:18 Speaker 5: a program, and then the little book. I started in

15:21 Speaker 5: the book, and then I just started putting music together.

15:24 Speaker 5: Like a lot of people went to school with I. Hey,

15:28 Speaker 5: school was at my round or my funding wasn't right

15:31 Speaker 5: for school to be honest, So sure, I had to

15:33 Speaker 5: do what I had, So I just started buying equipment

15:35 Speaker 5: and started engineering and yeah for that, and then I

15:40 Speaker 5: really and then I just engineered my own music. I did.

15:43 Speaker 5: A couple of my friends got into it, well, they

15:46 Speaker 5: were into it before, but since I had a studio,

15:48 Speaker 5: it was more accessible for us to get work done.

15:51 Speaker 5: So we just started working and just kept working. And

15:54 Speaker 5: that's all it is.

15:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you've definitely got a lot of work ethic

15:58 Speaker 1: and drive, and it shows up in not only your output,

16:02 Speaker 1: but in the I know I've noticed in the lyrics

16:07 Speaker 1: track like Crunch Time again, I'll go back to that,

16:09 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of your tracks. That

16:11 Speaker 1: seems to be a central theme of yours is talking

16:15 Speaker 1: about how you got to hustle, You got to really

16:18 Speaker 1: do the work. You know, you can't you can't just

16:21 Speaker 1: talk about it. But I think you and I once

16:23 Speaker 1: had a conversation a long time ago when we first

16:27 Speaker 1: started working together on this radio stuff, when you were

16:29 Speaker 1: you were talking about, you know, you got to play

16:31 Speaker 1: your position and you got to work, and a lot

16:33 Speaker 1: of people don't understand that, Uh, you know, you really

16:37 Speaker 1: got to put the work in. You got to make

16:39 Speaker 1: the effort. You can't. You can't sit around and say,

16:43 Speaker 1: I hope this happens, I hope I get discovered or whatever.

16:46 Speaker 1: You got to go out there. You got to put

16:47 Speaker 1: yourself out there and do the work.

16:51 Speaker 5: And that's probably, like I think, for a lot of people,

16:54 Speaker 5: that's the scariest part of it because like a lot

16:57 Speaker 5: of artists, I rumants, who it's like the willing studio work,

17:00 Speaker 5: but as soon as like the actual work comes into it,

17:03 Speaker 5: they actually have to put into work for their own projects.

17:07 Speaker 5: Sometimes it like it comes to a big halt, like huh,

17:10 Speaker 5: like like that's the biggest thing. So you know, it's

17:13 Speaker 5: like so after this is done, what are you gonna do?

17:15 Speaker 5: It's like, well, I didn't know I had to do

17:17 Speaker 5: anything else. Like it. It's cool because a lot of

17:22 Speaker 5: people will be willing to pay for that, like pay

17:25 Speaker 5: someone else to do that. Sure, Sometimes like that you

17:28 Speaker 5: lose the person, Like you know what I'm saying, You

17:30 Speaker 5: move the person when you don't have that person in

17:33 Speaker 5: your face. It's kind of cool to I feel like,

17:36 Speaker 5: it's kind of cool to meet the person when they

17:38 Speaker 5: first start. You know, it gives you a better connection,

17:42 Speaker 5: you know, like when they first started, you see that

17:45 Speaker 5: local sound like, oh man, I remember when that person

17:48 Speaker 5: had that song right seven years ago, and then when

17:51 Speaker 5: they blow up, it seems like wow, you know, you

17:53 Speaker 5: got to know them. It's more even if they're not

17:56 Speaker 5: from your town. Any artist you listen to that first

17:59 Speaker 5: music from the beginning and then you hear him six

18:02 Speaker 5: years later, like I don't know.

18:06 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people get.

18:09 Speaker 1: I'll say tainted for lack of a better word, by

18:12 Speaker 1: the major label system as far as their material, because

18:15 Speaker 1: what I like is a lot of local hip hop

18:17 Speaker 1: and and you know, underground stuff and a lot of

18:21 Speaker 1: a lot of the artists that you play on your show,

18:23 Speaker 1: and but a lot of what you hear on will

18:26 Speaker 1: say ninety four or five because the area that our

18:30 Speaker 1: highest concentration of listeners and is probably familiar with ninety

18:33 Speaker 1: four to five out of Boston. You know, you hear

18:35 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of it kind of sounds the same,

18:37 Speaker 1: and it's you know, I mean I often think of,

18:43 Speaker 1: you know, when talking about hip hop, I think of

18:45 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about fifty cent, But

18:48 Speaker 1: his early stuff like how to Rob I think is

18:51 Speaker 1: a great track. It's clever, it's funny and whatnot, but

18:57 Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect to hear anything like that from him

18:59 Speaker 1: now now it's all I mean, I'm not a fan

19:03 Speaker 1: of of anything he's done in the last I don't know,

19:06 Speaker 1: five six years, however.

19:08 Speaker 4: Long it's been.

19:09 Speaker 5: But I have to get Richard dies trying. No one

19:11 Speaker 5: knows what happened. Yeah, but yeah, like that's that's that's

19:16 Speaker 5: the thing. Like I haven't listened to the radio in

19:18 Speaker 5: like a year and a half now, like you know,

19:21 Speaker 5: like that's kind of like for the kids, like and

19:25 Speaker 5: a lot of artists I listened to or listen to

19:28 Speaker 5: or some of the artists I ran into. That's what

19:32 Speaker 5: a lot of artists driving for is that radio sound.

19:35 Speaker 5: Me myself, I think I haven't listened to radio enough

19:38 Speaker 5: to find like you know, like focus on that radio

19:41 Speaker 5: sound to a lot of people like, well this is

19:44 Speaker 5: what I'm going with my project. And certain people I

19:46 Speaker 5: really can't work with. It's like I'm not even a

19:50 Speaker 5: factor of I hate him. It's more like not like

19:53 Speaker 5: in that music or I actually want to work with,

19:56 Speaker 5: but certain people like won't be Maybe I won't be.

20:00 Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe I just can't complete their cask you.

20:03 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, sometimes.

20:05 Speaker 5: Of businesses like that, I can't you know, I can't

20:08 Speaker 5: take it as all man, you know, reflect that in

20:11 Speaker 5: business sometimes.

20:12 Speaker 1: But have you have you worked with people or try

20:14 Speaker 1: to work with people who've literally said to you they

20:16 Speaker 1: they've actually used that phrase that they want that radio sound.

20:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like, I want that hit sound that one

20:25 Speaker 5: persons referred to as I wanted to I want that

20:29 Speaker 5: Drake sound. I was like, I really thought that. I

20:32 Speaker 5: felt crazy, hope me. They wanted to sound like another artist.

20:37 Speaker 5: I totally like. I was like, I don't even know

20:39 Speaker 5: what to respond to that. Yeah, Like, how can I

20:42 Speaker 5: how can I complete making you someone else? What? I'm

20:48 Speaker 5: just looking at that one Drake sound, that one Drake take.

20:52 Speaker 5: I'm like, do you even sing? I don't understand how

20:56 Speaker 5: could you ever sound like someone else?

20:58 Speaker 6: Right?

20:58 Speaker 1: Right?

21:00 Speaker 5: But a lot of people, like I think they're like

21:02 Speaker 5: taking other people's material, really running it through their brain

21:06 Speaker 5: a little deep and just trying to go with it.

21:09 Speaker 5: Because that's seen a lot of artists to start to

21:11 Speaker 5: sound like other people, like exactly like other people. Sure,

21:15 Speaker 5: I can't for them before they started listening to this

21:17 Speaker 5: artist and act and they sound just like the artists

21:20 Speaker 5: they listened to, like, you know, the Little Lanes, the Drakes,

21:23 Speaker 5: So whatever they listen to on the radio, the music

21:26 Speaker 5: starts to sound like that, right Like music's like redundant

21:30 Speaker 5: right now. Well, of course music's always been redundant in

21:33 Speaker 5: the music like hip hop industry, but it's getting really bad, nass.

21:38 Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure a.

21:38 Speaker 1: Lot of these people too who do that, they they're

21:41 Speaker 1: probably also thinking of it from kind of a marketing

21:45 Speaker 1: standpoint of well, if I can sound like this person,

21:47 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a hit song too well, you know.

21:50 Speaker 1: And that's that's been pervasive in the music industry forever,

21:53 Speaker 1: not just in hip hop, but I think in all

21:55 Speaker 1: genres of music. We saw it, you know, we saw

21:58 Speaker 1: it with grunge in the nineties, all of a sudden,

22:00 Speaker 1: everyone wants to sound like they're from.

22:01 Speaker 4: Seattle, you know. Or in the eighties.

22:04 Speaker 1: I mean, when I was a kid, you know, hair metal,

22:06 Speaker 1: you know, all these uh yet all these hair bands,

22:08 Speaker 1: it sounded alike. And and I think now with a

22:11 Speaker 1: lot of the more not hip hop but electronic music,

22:15 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people want to sound like

22:17 Speaker 1: Kesha or a Lady Gaga or this or that, because

22:20 Speaker 1: you know, it kind of does become like a almost

22:25 Speaker 1: like an assembly line kind of thing, where you know,

22:27 Speaker 1: it is a business. So the major labels, they they

22:30 Speaker 1: treat it like a business. Well, of course, they haven't

22:32 Speaker 1: always been very smart about treating it like a business,

22:35 Speaker 1: which is why part of why they're having problems now.

22:38 Speaker 1: But they they treat it like it becomes that assembly

22:40 Speaker 1: line kind of mentality. It's like, Okay, we had a

22:43 Speaker 1: hit with with this, we had a hit with X,

22:46 Speaker 1: so now let's make Y and Z sound like X

22:49 Speaker 1: and and it'll all be success. Well, and of course,

22:52 Speaker 1: uh that ends up backfiring eventually.

22:56 Speaker 5: But it seems like lately the radio still forces the

22:59 Speaker 5: same thing. So even if you give the like if

23:03 Speaker 5: you it seems like the radio has no conformity, Like

23:07 Speaker 5: they don't want to conform. They're like, we're just gonna

23:09 Speaker 5: run with this and we're sticking to this until I

23:12 Speaker 5: don't know, till the world ends.

23:14 Speaker 4: Right.

23:15 Speaker 5: I can't expect anything out of them. That's why, like

23:18 Speaker 5: I just do whatever else, Like, well, the.

23:22 Speaker 4: Thing is too. I think it's smart too.

23:25 Speaker 1: I think it's smart to ignore what's going on at

23:28 Speaker 1: the radio and try to do what you think sounds good,

23:32 Speaker 1: because I think chasing trends is pointless because if you chase,

23:37 Speaker 1: if you chase trends, by the time whatever material it

23:40 Speaker 1: is that you've created, that you've produced, by the time

23:43 Speaker 1: it works its way through whatever promotional pipelines you're putting

23:47 Speaker 1: it through, whatever is currently working for everybody else may

23:53 Speaker 1: not be working for everybody else anymore. Yeah, the net

23:57 Speaker 1: for all, you know, the next big thing might be

24:00 Speaker 1: your sound.

24:02 Speaker 5: You have the sound that you used to have before

24:04 Speaker 5: you conform.

24:05 Speaker 4: Right right exactly? You know, you don't know.

24:08 Speaker 1: It's it's so unpredictable, So you might as well do

24:12 Speaker 1: something that you like that you hope other people will like.

24:15 Speaker 1: But ultimately you have to be to support it as

24:18 Speaker 1: an artist or as a producer or or a marketing

24:22 Speaker 1: guy or whatever it is that you're doing management, it's

24:25 Speaker 1: got to be something that you're happy with, and because

24:28 Speaker 1: if you're not happy with it, it's you know, it's

24:30 Speaker 1: hard to fake that, you.

24:31 Speaker 5: Know what I mean, it'll show right through it. That's yeah, absolutely,

24:37 Speaker 5: that's yeah, that's good. I need try to keep my

24:42 Speaker 5: hands like if I I think, if I keep my

24:45 Speaker 5: mind busy with work, and anything else is good, right.

24:49 Speaker 1: Right, It's important to keep moving and let me ask

24:53 Speaker 1: you and we'll let you go in a minute, ez,

24:55 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you to the artists that

24:57 Speaker 1: you work with. Do they do they find you? Do

25:00 Speaker 1: you approach them? I mean, how does that work? Do

25:03 Speaker 1: you seek out artists that you.

25:04 Speaker 4: Like or are they finding you?

25:07 Speaker 5: Well? Sometimes it's more like a friend who say, hey,

25:11 Speaker 5: like i've I work with someone. Someone else will bring

25:15 Speaker 5: like a like a referral kind of deal. Or or

25:19 Speaker 5: sometimes I go or I go look for certain people

25:21 Speaker 5: that I want to work with that I was supposed

25:24 Speaker 5: to work with. I don't go too far out of

25:26 Speaker 5: the boundaries of who wants to work with me. Like

25:30 Speaker 5: some I'll reach out to other artists. Sometimes I get

25:33 Speaker 5: turned down, and it's cool, that's a part of the game. Sure,

25:36 Speaker 5: But if I reach out the first time and then

25:39 Speaker 5: you get mad at me when I don't reach out

25:40 Speaker 5: the second time, that just that happens?

25:44 Speaker 4: Does it really?

25:46 Speaker 7: Yeah?

25:46 Speaker 5: Because like I'll reach out and then person I'll turn

25:49 Speaker 5: me down, and then I guess they'll hear from a

25:51 Speaker 5: friend and then they'll call me back, like, hey, you

25:53 Speaker 5: know what, I want to do this then tho, I'm

25:55 Speaker 5: like I just offered that.

25:58 Speaker 1: Wait yeah, yeah, absolutely, well, you know, musicians can be

26:04 Speaker 1: uh can be fickle sometimes and you know and whatnot.

26:08 Speaker 1: We've all dealt with that. Well, DZ before we let

26:11 Speaker 1: you go, can you please let everybody know? I mean

26:14 Speaker 1: I I told everybody about the massive hustle channel here

26:17 Speaker 1: on ipmnation dot com. But can you fill everyone into

26:19 Speaker 1: on where else we can find you online? Where's the

26:21 Speaker 1: best place to go?

26:23 Speaker 5: Oh? Well, another place is, even though the negative name

26:28 Speaker 5: is called that crack dot com okay, a site. It's

26:32 Speaker 5: as a it's a mixtape site to like all like

26:35 Speaker 5: mixtape musicians. It's the holy grail of mixtape. It's a

26:42 Speaker 5: site that you can just go see all my projects

26:44 Speaker 5: and download all my projects. You can see my videos

26:47 Speaker 5: on that site too, So like, if if you can

26:52 Speaker 5: download my mixtape there too, you just put in DZ

26:56 Speaker 5: to give under the search bar and I'll pop up

26:59 Speaker 5: so all the information we'll pop up too.

27:02 Speaker 1: Excellent, And can we find you on Facebook and everything

27:05 Speaker 1: as well?

27:05 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Facebook and all that guy essentially Yeah, social networks?

27:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool.

27:13 Speaker 5: You know.

27:14 Speaker 1: Well, d z U, we'll we'll let you go. I'm

27:16 Speaker 1: actually going to play a track and then uh, I'll

27:20 Speaker 1: come back and uh yap at the audience about some

27:23 Speaker 1: other things going on. But thank you very much for

27:25 Speaker 1: joining us here tonight. I'm gonna play uh after we

27:28 Speaker 1: let you off. I'm gonna play this track night for

27:31 Speaker 1: admittedly selfish reasons. I love it because you sampled my

27:34 Speaker 1: voice on this, which I think is just so cool.

27:38 Speaker 5: You know, I got to sit a little love.

27:39 Speaker 1: I hate absolutely absolutely, and I like the I like

27:42 Speaker 1: the nickname the pimp Juice. That's uh, I'm not sure

27:47 Speaker 1: why you call me that, but that's all right.

27:49 Speaker 5: Really doesn't have a connection. It's more like a respect

27:52 Speaker 5: factor that you got a nickname.

27:54 Speaker 6: Yeah.

27:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're trying to get nicknamed, so you have a nickname.

27:58 Speaker 8: You know.

27:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely I appreciate it, man, I think it's awesome. Yeah yeah, no,

28:04 Speaker 1: that's cool.

28:05 Speaker 4: So uh DZ.

28:06 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be seeing your Thursday anyway. But thanks very much,

28:09 Speaker 1: Thanks very much for calling in tonight.

28:10 Speaker 6: Man.

28:10 Speaker 1: This has been a great conversation. And everybody check out

28:14 Speaker 1: Massive Hustle and uh and the uh what was that website?

28:18 Speaker 9: Again?

28:18 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, crack, what is.

28:22 Speaker 5: At okay?

28:25 Speaker 4: Cool?

28:25 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that out right after the show, actually,

28:27 Speaker 1: because I haven't been to that yet. But DZ the Gift,

28:30 Speaker 1: thanks very much for joining us tonight.

28:32 Speaker 5: Man a wonderful night.

28:34 Speaker 1: All right, Man, take care, I'll see us soon, see

28:36 Speaker 1: you bye bye.

28:38 Speaker 4: All right, all right.

28:39 Speaker 1: That was DZ the Gift, host of the Hustle Report

28:42 Speaker 1: here on i PM nation dot Com on the Massive Channel,

28:45 Speaker 1: the Massive Hustle Channel. Rather, h I'm gonna play this track.

28:48 Speaker 1: After the track, I'm gonna come back talk some politics

28:51 Speaker 1: I've got. I've got so much to talk about. I

28:55 Speaker 1: missed the Republican debate tonight right here in New Hampshire.

28:59 Speaker 1: We do the show in Manchester, New Hampshire. But like

29:03 Speaker 1: I was saying before, I had a hypnosis session and

29:06 Speaker 1: then I came to the studio hoping to see a

29:08 Speaker 1: little bit of the debate here on the computer, and

29:10 Speaker 1: I couldn't find anywhere online. It was a CNN debate.

29:12 Speaker 1: I went to CNN dot Com. Couldn't find it streaming

29:15 Speaker 1: anywhere online. So I'll have to watch it later. I'm

29:18 Speaker 1: sure cnn'll be re running it all night, so I'll

29:21 Speaker 1: peep it out when I get home, or watch it

29:23 Speaker 1: on YouTube or whatever. And I'll have some debate analysis

29:25 Speaker 1: for you later in the week on the Express edition

29:28 Speaker 1: of the show. But I've got a thousand other things

29:31 Speaker 1: to talk about politically, and we're not going to get

29:33 Speaker 1: through it all tonight. Obviously, it's only an hour show.

29:36 Speaker 1: Whatever I don't get to tonight, i'll do in the

29:39 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the Express edition of Matt Connorton Unleashed.

29:44 Speaker 1: But the live show is not over yet. We're only

29:45 Speaker 1: halfway through. I'm gonna play this track, like I said,

29:48 Speaker 1: kind of for selfish reasons, because I'm on it. Dez

29:51 Speaker 1: actually samples my voice, so listen carefully. You'll hear me

29:55 Speaker 1: in there. He's actually sampled me on a couple tracks.

29:58 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool. I'm very flattered by that.

30:00 Speaker 1: It's good for my ego. So anyway, this is night

30:05 Speaker 1: by DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on

30:09 Speaker 1: i p M nation dot com.

30:11 Speaker 9: Last night I heard the screaming.

30:15 Speaker 10: Loud voices behind another sleepless night me. He won't do

30:25 Speaker 10: no good to go.

30:27 Speaker 11: Got this cousin the fhall.

30:32 Speaker 8: I see we're gonna do this ship right now.

30:36 Speaker 9: Let U you are now say.

30:42 Speaker 12: Sign.

30:43 Speaker 13: I heard screaming sign I heard snignard sign.

30:50 Speaker 5: He screaming.

30:53 Speaker 9: SPLI to the.

30:55 Speaker 11: Scream because nothing mother half Wilco's a child in night shot.

31:10 Speaker 4: Fine, he's saying this is my hood and.

31:13 Speaker 14: I'm a wow.

31:14 Speaker 8: Motherfucker can't say this street because of you to it saying.

31:18 Speaker 3: Ship where my man got head half in the pin,

31:21 Speaker 3: never see the streets again.

31:24 Speaker 9: At the poop my pull pin, Yo, It's just me.

31:27 Speaker 14: Take in it what you want.

31:29 Speaker 3: My little man ain't gonna feed himself. And y'all just

31:33 Speaker 3: preaching for wealth. It's hard to faker. Should I speak.

31:37 Speaker 3: My people in the struggle are speaking for them. Paul

31:41 Speaker 3: Barry hard handed and hard and hairing out love folcus everything,

31:47 Speaker 3: no matter what bills, dog keeper bearing vast hustler cashall

31:52 Speaker 3: I rest bear love, I didn't sleep to the world

31:56 Speaker 3: give saying.

31:57 Speaker 9: What the fuck?

31:58 Speaker 8: Goto like Jimmy and not a sleepless Guta.

32:03 Speaker 13: Stand spoil, spin out side.

32:29 Speaker 3: Steaming, pray to come up every day, praying not to

32:33 Speaker 3: see the chap pop up, serve three sixty five, break

32:37 Speaker 3: it down five so let it signed sealed, the recoiled

32:41 Speaker 3: damage other John stole money, No aim, he ain't innocent

32:47 Speaker 3: by stays putting in work because the old hand told

32:51 Speaker 3: freeze frame were says he got the real triple Coton

32:54 Speaker 3: paint and my brain sling pain when it's time to

32:59 Speaker 3: go because out with class, my child, you canna get

33:03 Speaker 3: everything I didn't have. Everybody want to be a walk

33:07 Speaker 3: and don't got the knowledge.

33:09 Speaker 5: Cass got to.

33:09 Speaker 3: Cut off by way for Charlet's tossing and turning. Did

33:14 Speaker 3: it anyway? Can't go back to sleeping in hallways? Man,

33:18 Speaker 3: It's tough.

33:20 Speaker 9: Another another.

33:24 Speaker 4: Idea Nation dot com.

33:26 Speaker 1: You are now signed into the Hospitalnation dot mine.

33:30 Speaker 9: I heard screaming last night. I heard last night.

33:35 Speaker 14: I heard this night.

33:37 Speaker 9: I heard screaming. This, my heard spooming, this, my screaming

33:49 Speaker 9: now this night screaming.

33:56 Speaker 4: Did you hear it? Do you hear me?

33:57 Speaker 9: In there?

33:59 Speaker 1: That is uh that is night by DZ the Gift

34:03 Speaker 1: beat by Flowhalla with a little cameo from yours truly

34:07 Speaker 1: Pimp Juice as the DZ the Gift likes to call me.

34:11 Speaker 1: And I'm very honored to uh have been assigned that nickname.

34:14 Speaker 1: Like he said, you know, it's it's a respect thing

34:17 Speaker 1: and and I think that's really cool. And he's great

34:19 Speaker 1: to work with and I'm very honored to have him

34:22 Speaker 1: on ipmnation dot com the Massive Hustle Channel. If you're

34:26 Speaker 1: interested in hip hop, definitely check out the Massive Hustle

34:29 Speaker 1: channel Here on ipmnation dot com, check out The Hustle

34:32 Speaker 1: Report DZ's show. I love underground hip hop. I've always

34:35 Speaker 1: been into hip hop. Sometimes people are surprised that a

34:40 Speaker 1: pasty faced, thirty something New Hampshire white boy like myself

34:43 Speaker 1: is isn't a hip hop but you know, I grew

34:45 Speaker 1: up listening to a lot of metal, a lot of

34:47 Speaker 1: mainstream rock, and I probably and I still listen to

34:51 Speaker 1: all that stuff and I still love it, and I've

34:52 Speaker 1: played in a lot of bands, but I've always loved

34:56 Speaker 1: hip hop as well. I probably listened to almost as

34:58 Speaker 1: much hip hop as I do rock. And the underground

35:01 Speaker 1: stuff is great. The stuff that you're not hearing on radio,

35:04 Speaker 1: the stuff that hasn't been tainted by the major labels,

35:08 Speaker 1: I think is really really cool. And this kind of

35:10 Speaker 1: stuff DZ plays also too. If you're in an area

35:14 Speaker 1: where you have access to a college radio station. Again,

35:17 Speaker 1: on college radio you'll hear a lot of really cool,

35:20 Speaker 1: underground hip hop stuff that hasn't made it yet to

35:24 Speaker 1: clear channel and all these mainstream FM stations that just

35:29 Speaker 1: play a lot of stuff that, like we were talking about,

35:31 Speaker 1: it all kind of sounds the same. So I'm gonna

35:34 Speaker 1: play another DZ the Gift track at the end of

35:36 Speaker 1: tonight's show, personal favorite of mine called Hurting, which I

35:40 Speaker 1: think is one of his best tracks. It's really really good.

35:42 Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna end the show with in

35:44 Speaker 1: approximately twenty five minutes. We got a little waste to go,

35:47 Speaker 1: like I was saying before the track, so much to

35:51 Speaker 1: talk about politically, and if you're joining us late, no,

35:54 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about tonight's Republican debate that happened right

35:57 Speaker 1: here in New Hampshire because unfortunately I had to miss it.

36:02 Speaker 1: Like I was saying earlier, I had a hypnotherapy session.

36:06 Speaker 1: I'm also a professional hypnotherapist. Like I said before, I

36:10 Speaker 1: know I don't sound very soothing when I'm on here

36:12 Speaker 1: during the show, but small lamped up. But when I

36:15 Speaker 1: do hypnosis, I talk like this in a very soothing tone,

36:19 Speaker 1: so I can help you to relax, and you know

36:22 Speaker 1: I do all that. And so I had to do

36:25 Speaker 1: a session, and then I came here to the studio,

36:26 Speaker 1: and I was excited because I got here. I got

36:29 Speaker 1: to the studio just in time to get online and

36:32 Speaker 1: watch the debate, and then I couldn't find it online,

36:34 Speaker 1: so I'll just watch it later. So I'll have debate

36:36 Speaker 1: analysis for you later in the week.

36:38 Speaker 4: But in the meantime, what to do?

36:40 Speaker 9: What to do?

36:40 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of stuff we could do. I

36:45 Speaker 1: think I want to talk about this whole Uh you

36:49 Speaker 1: know what, we have unfinished business. Here's here's what I'm

36:52 Speaker 1: gonna do. And whatever we don't get to tonight, I'll

36:54 Speaker 1: get to on the Express edition for tomorrow, which I'll

36:57 Speaker 1: end up recording right after the live show tonight anyway,

37:00 Speaker 1: so be sure to come back for that. But we

37:02 Speaker 1: talked a lot. We've been talking a lot lately about

37:05 Speaker 1: Herman Kane. Herman Kine is a big deal right now

37:09 Speaker 1: because Herman Kane Republican candidate for the presidency. He's black,

37:16 Speaker 1: which is interesting in itself because you don't see a

37:18 Speaker 1: lot of black Republicans. You see lots of black Democrats,

37:22 Speaker 1: not a lot of black Republicans, but they do exist.

37:25 Speaker 4: It's funny.

37:26 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I didn't think that there

37:27 Speaker 1: were any black British people. So until I remember Billy Ocean.

37:33 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of hits in the eighties. I

37:35 Speaker 1: heard Billy Ocean speaking in an interview. I actually saw

37:38 Speaker 1: him on MTV doing an interview and I was like, Oh,

37:42 Speaker 1: he's British and he's black.

37:44 Speaker 4: Who knew?

37:46 Speaker 1: So they had a Justice Mike a little bit. Hang on,

37:50 Speaker 1: bear with me, all right. The mic was tilted at

37:53 Speaker 1: an odd angle and it bothers me. I'm not very

37:56 Speaker 1: ocd about most things, but a mike tilted at a

37:59 Speaker 1: straight angle is bothersome. So Herman Kaine is a big deal.

38:05 Speaker 1: And he's a big deal because there has been a

38:09 Speaker 1: change in the mainstream media's perception of him, the political media,

38:15 Speaker 1: how they talk about him on you know, on these

38:19 Speaker 1: political channels, these news channels, on cable news. Because I'm

38:24 Speaker 1: watching this slow transformation that's taking place. Initially, Herman Kine,

38:31 Speaker 1: Herman Kane's been kind of a big deal from the beginning. Again,

38:34 Speaker 1: he has the novelty of being an African American Republican,

38:37 Speaker 1: but also a lot of Republicans have gravitated toward him,

38:41 Speaker 1: which I think is cool and I think it's I

38:45 Speaker 1: think it's refreshing because I tend to think largely because

38:51 Speaker 1: of issues like like immigration, for example, I have a

38:56 Speaker 1: tendency to perceive that there is still a segment of

39:02 Speaker 1: the Republican Party that is probably racist, a segment of it. Now, please, Republicans,

39:07 Speaker 1: don't freak out. I'm not saying Republicans are racist, but

39:10 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm sure that there is a small,

39:14 Speaker 1: probably a very very small, don't freak out on me,

39:17 Speaker 1: a small percentage of the Republican Party that doesn't like

39:23 Speaker 1: black people.

39:23 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean I.

39:26 Speaker 1: The way Republicans talk about Obama in many cases is

39:31 Speaker 1: not like Republicans talk about most Democrats. I mean, I

39:34 Speaker 1: remember when Bill Clinton was president and a lot of

39:36 Speaker 1: Republicans didn't like him, and you know, they would complain

39:39 Speaker 1: about him and whatnot.

39:39 Speaker 4: But with Obama.

39:41 Speaker 1: The thing that I've noticed about how Republicans talk about Obama.

39:45 Speaker 1: With Obama, it's not enough for a lot of Republicans

39:49 Speaker 1: to simply dislike his policies, to simply disagree with him politically,

39:54 Speaker 1: or to even make banal statements like oh, Obama's going

39:57 Speaker 1: to run the country into the ground or whatever. They're

40:00 Speaker 1: whatever their political prejudice is no. No, No, I don't

40:03 Speaker 1: know too many Republicans who simply dislike Obama. They don't

40:07 Speaker 1: dislike Obama. They absolutely hate Obama. They loathe Obama in

40:13 Speaker 1: a way that I don't see them loathing so forcefully

40:19 Speaker 1: other political figures with whom they disagree, And I kind

40:23 Speaker 1: of wonder where that intense hatred and loathing comes from.

40:29 Speaker 1: So I tend to think there's still some some racism

40:34 Speaker 1: on the right, maybe more subconscious racism, not intentional racism,

40:40 Speaker 1: not not conscious racism, but a subconscious racism, like they're

40:43 Speaker 1: freaked out by him because he doesn't look like them,

40:47 Speaker 1: in other words, because he's not white. You know, they're

40:50 Speaker 1: not They're not necessarily looking at him and saying, you know,

40:52 Speaker 1: and thinking the N word or whatever, but they're But

40:55 Speaker 1: they're still uncomfortable at the idea that a black man

40:59 Speaker 1: is leader of the free world on some level, on

41:03 Speaker 1: some subconscious level, because like I said, it's not enough

41:06 Speaker 1: to dislike him. No, I don't know anyone who dislikes Obama.

41:10 Speaker 1: You either like him or you absolutely despise him with

41:13 Speaker 1: every cell of your being. That's my observation. But on

41:17 Speaker 1: the other hand, seeing a guy like Herman Kane capture

41:19 Speaker 1: the imagination of the Republican Party the way that he has.

41:23 Speaker 1: That gives me some hope that that intense that the

41:27 Speaker 1: racism that I'm sure does exist in the Republican Party

41:30 Speaker 1: to some relatively small degree, that faction of the party

41:36 Speaker 1: may be even smaller than I thought, because a lot

41:39 Speaker 1: of Republicans like Herman Kane.

41:42 Speaker 4: So that's positive.

41:46 Speaker 1: And Herman Kane, the transformation that has taken place in

41:50 Speaker 1: how the media covers him is that initially Herman Kane

41:54 Speaker 1: was viewed and discussed as basically a fluke, a French

42:00 Speaker 1: candidate that no one could really take seriously because no

42:03 Speaker 1: matter how well he did, no matter how many big

42:05 Speaker 1: applause lines he would have in the debates, no matter

42:10 Speaker 1: how charismatic he would come across, no matter how much

42:15 Speaker 1: Republicans would say I agree with him, he's the one

42:18 Speaker 1: who's making the most sense. I mean, even that douchebag

42:21 Speaker 1: Hank Williams Junior on his Fox and Friends appearance where

42:25 Speaker 1: he compared Obama Hitler even he said, this guy who

42:29 Speaker 1: you know, you know, he has a Confederate flag hanging

42:32 Speaker 1: somewhere in his house. Even Hank Williams Junior said, Herman

42:37 Speaker 1: Kane is the only one who's making any sense right now.

42:40 Speaker 4: And that's good.

42:42 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Republicans can embrace a black man.

42:46 Speaker 4: That gives me hope.

42:47 Speaker 1: But what's happened is in the beginning, Herman Kane was

42:53 Speaker 1: regarded as a fluke. Even after he won the Florida Strapol,

42:57 Speaker 1: he was even then being talked about as a flu

43:00 Speaker 1: These political pundits, these analysts would say, well, Herman Kane,

43:03 Speaker 1: he's really making waves. He just won the Florida stoppol.

43:06 Speaker 1: That's kind of a big deal. But come on, we

43:08 Speaker 1: all know he's not gonna be the nominee. This will pass.

43:12 Speaker 15: Or the really.

43:13 Speaker 1: Condescending thing, and I think unfairly dismissive thing that I

43:17 Speaker 1: would consistently hear them.

43:18 Speaker 4: Say about him was that Herman Kane is.

43:22 Speaker 1: The rise of Herman Kane in the polls is merely

43:27 Speaker 1: a symptom, a byproduct of the incredible dissatisfaction, the disenchantment

43:33 Speaker 1: that Republican voters have with the rest of the field.

43:36 Speaker 1: They're not happy with Perry, they're not happy with Romney,

43:39 Speaker 1: Bachmann's a joke, Huntsman's a moderate Gingrich is a scumbag,

43:45 Speaker 1: so you know, so they're kind of in these polls

43:48 Speaker 1: they're going with Kane, but it doesn't really mean anything.

43:50 Speaker 1: It's a protest thing, which I came on the air

43:55 Speaker 1: and said, I thought that was unfair. Why do we

43:58 Speaker 1: have to make that assumption?

44:00 Speaker 4: Is finally, very.

44:03 Speaker 1: Slowly beginning to change because recent polls have shown Herman Kane,

44:09 Speaker 1: the guy that they treated like a fringe candidate, like

44:13 Speaker 1: a fluke. Recent polls have shown him as a front runner.

44:18 Speaker 1: I saw a poll a couple days ago. I think

44:21 Speaker 1: it was a rasmusen pole. It had him tied with

44:25 Speaker 1: Romney at seventeen percent. They were tied at seventeen percent.

44:30 Speaker 1: Perry I think, had fallen to nine percent. The rest

44:33 Speaker 1: of them, who gives a shit at this point. So

44:38 Speaker 1: it's finally happening where establishment media is finally beginning to

44:44 Speaker 1: take Herman Kane seriously. I still don't think any of

44:49 Speaker 1: them believe he has a shot at winning the nomination,

44:52 Speaker 1: but wouldn't that be interesting if he did. I'll tell

44:55 Speaker 1: you what, two black guys debating one Republican, one Democrat.

45:01 Speaker 1: Can you imagine it? Two black guys running for the

45:06 Speaker 1: presidency of the United States. Now, I thought it said

45:10 Speaker 1: something very positive. Look, whether you like Obama or you

45:13 Speaker 1: hate Obama, putting the partisanship aspect of it aside, I

45:19 Speaker 1: thought it said something enormously positive about America that we

45:23 Speaker 1: had finally elected a black man, an African American. Well,

45:27 Speaker 1: I mean he's African American. He's not fully black, but whatever.

45:33 Speaker 1: Actually I saw him dancing once and he was surprised.

45:35 Speaker 1: He kind of danced like Eddie Murphy's impression of how

45:38 Speaker 1: white people dance, which I thought was very strange. But anyway,

45:45 Speaker 1: can you imagine if Herman Kane were the Republican nominee,

45:48 Speaker 1: two black guys duking it out for the presidency, that

45:52 Speaker 1: would say something even more incredible about how far we've

45:55 Speaker 1: come as a country. So I think in that regard

45:59 Speaker 1: it would be very positive. And I found myself, even

46:05 Speaker 1: though I don't agree with Herman Kane, I understand.

46:08 Speaker 4: Why people like him.

46:09 Speaker 1: I kind of like the guy in some ways. He

46:11 Speaker 1: is kind of refreshing. He's a straight talker, and I

46:14 Speaker 1: dig that. And I defended him on the Friday edition

46:17 Speaker 1: of the Express Edition because after his interview with Lawrence

46:21 Speaker 1: O'Donnell on the Last Word on MSNBC. I thought Herman

46:24 Speaker 1: Kain was treated very unfairly by Lawrence O'Donnell, and I

46:28 Speaker 1: played for you guys the clip of Lawrence O'Donnell chastising

46:33 Speaker 1: him for not serving in Vietnam and basically calling him

46:37 Speaker 1: a draft dodger, which I thought was very unfair, and

46:41 Speaker 1: I thought Herman Kane's explanation made perfect sense, and I

46:44 Speaker 1: defended Herman Kine on that, And have another clip that

46:47 Speaker 1: I'd like to play for you where Herman Kane from

46:52 Speaker 1: that same interview, where Herman Kine is discussing, well, I'm sorry,

46:58 Speaker 1: I forgot what. Oh, Herman Kane was discussing his lack

47:01 Speaker 1: of participation in the civil rights movement, where again I

47:04 Speaker 1: thought Lawrence O'Donnell went a little tough on him. So

47:10 Speaker 1: I've talked a lot so far. You know, you know

47:16 Speaker 1: there's a big butt coming, right. I've talked a lot

47:19 Speaker 1: about the positive aspects of the Herman Kane candidacy and

47:23 Speaker 1: why I think we should take him seriously, and I

47:28 Speaker 1: kind of like the guy. But now I'm gonna take

47:32 Speaker 1: the gloves off and tell you some things I don't like.

47:34 Speaker 1: First of all, and these are minor complaints compared to

47:39 Speaker 1: the big one that's coming. First of all, he is

47:43 Speaker 1: a hard right wing guy. I mean, he's a right

47:46 Speaker 1: wing conservative, a true right wing conservative. He's no Mitt Romney,

47:50 Speaker 1: He's damn sure, no John Huntsman.

47:52 Speaker 4: He's a right winger. Okay.

47:56 Speaker 1: He believes that gay people choose to be gay. For example,

48:06 Speaker 1: he opposes gay marriage. He opposes lifting the ban on

48:12 Speaker 1: gays in the military. I mean, even just saying that

48:15 Speaker 1: much should give you an idea of where he is.

48:17 Speaker 4: Socially.

48:18 Speaker 1: He is both a fiscal and a social conservative. I

48:23 Speaker 1: could give you more examples, but I want to get

48:25 Speaker 1: to the big thing. My big problem with Herman Kane

48:30 Speaker 1: that I just recently learned about. Anyone who's been listening

48:36 Speaker 1: to the show and who knows how I feel politically

48:41 Speaker 1: knows that the reason, the real reason I'm an independent. Look,

48:47 Speaker 1: I'm an independent for a couple of reasons. For one thing,

48:51 Speaker 1: I'm an independent for the same reason that a lot

48:53 Speaker 1: of people are independent. They don't feel like they fit

48:55 Speaker 1: into either party. A lot of independence are fiscally conservative

49:00 Speaker 1: but socially liberal. That's me, So I'm an independent. I

49:04 Speaker 1: used to be a Democrat. Party moved too far to

49:07 Speaker 1: the left. I'll never be a Republican because they've moved

49:11 Speaker 1: too far to the right. So I got nowhere to go.

49:14 Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the middle, so that's where I sit.

49:16 Speaker 1: I'm a centrist. I'm an independent. But there's another reason

49:21 Speaker 1: I'm an independent at the federal level. And I want

49:27 Speaker 1: to be clear that I'm talking about the federal level

49:29 Speaker 1: because I've been meeting a lot of people here in

49:31 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. I've been meeting a lot of people who

49:34 Speaker 1: serve at the state level, who I think are good people.

49:39 Speaker 1: But at the federal level, I despise both parties because

49:45 Speaker 1: and to longtime listeners of the show, I apologize if

49:49 Speaker 1: this is redundant, but to people who are new, I

49:53 Speaker 1: have to make this clear, and it relates to what

49:56 Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you about Herman Kane that you

49:59 Speaker 1: might not know because the mainstream media isn't going to

50:04 Speaker 1: go out of their way to tell you because in

50:06 Speaker 1: order for the mainstream media to tell you this, it

50:09 Speaker 1: would require someone in the mainstream media to commit an

50:12 Speaker 1: actual act of journalism, which so called journalists don't really

50:18 Speaker 1: like to do. There isn't that much of that I

50:23 Speaker 1: don't know why we still call them journalists if they

50:27 Speaker 1: don't actually practice journalism. Maybe we should come up with

50:30 Speaker 1: some other name for them, like a corporate shill. That

50:33 Speaker 1: might be a good name. Since big media is all

50:35 Speaker 1: owned by the corporations, that's who really controls the message.

50:41 Speaker 1: We shouldn't even call them journalists. Let's just call them shills.

50:46 Speaker 1: But that relates to my issue with Herman Kane, because

50:51 Speaker 1: it turns out Herman Kane is just like everybody else

50:58 Speaker 1: who wants to be present, or who wants to be

51:01 Speaker 1: a United States Senator or a United States congressman, anything

51:05 Speaker 1: at the federal level, or even governor of a state.

51:11 Speaker 1: My issue, and the reason why I hate all of them,

51:14 Speaker 1: both Democrats and Republicans at the federal level, is that

51:18 Speaker 1: they are all bought and paid for. The people who

51:22 Speaker 1: we send to Washington to represent us do not do

51:26 Speaker 1: not really represent us. They represent their donors. And by

51:31 Speaker 1: their donors, I don't mean the person who says, oh,

51:35 Speaker 1: I want to donate to Mitt Romney's campaign, I'm going

51:37 Speaker 1: to send in a check for twenty dollars. No, I

51:39 Speaker 1: mean the big money players, the lobbyists, the special interest groups,

51:44 Speaker 1: the corporations, the fat cats who really control what's going on.

51:50 Speaker 4: When you elect a.

51:53 Speaker 1: Particular person to represent you in Washington, you're not really

51:59 Speaker 1: represent them. I'm sorry, You're not really electing them to

52:03 Speaker 1: represent you. You are electing them to represent whatever set

52:07 Speaker 1: of lobbyists and corporate scumbags and big fat cat money

52:12 Speaker 1: donors and special interest groups, whatever set of those people

52:17 Speaker 1: you have decided, you have unwittingly decided whatever set of

52:20 Speaker 1: them you want to control the game. They are all

52:30 Speaker 1: bought and paid for. They do not work for us.

52:34 Speaker 1: And one of the things that people find so refreshing

52:37 Speaker 1: about Herman Kane is while he's not a Washington insider,

52:42 Speaker 1: he's never even held political office. He was a CEO

52:44 Speaker 1: of a major corporation. He's not a political insider. Well

52:51 Speaker 1: guess what, Guess what. Guess who is a huge supporter

53:01 Speaker 1: of Herman Kane. The Koke Brothers.

53:06 Speaker 9: You know who.

53:06 Speaker 1: The Koch Brothers are No, not Coke. They have nothing

53:10 Speaker 1: to do with Coca Cola. The Koch Brothers koc H.

53:15 Speaker 1: I found this out from a friend of mine, so

53:18 Speaker 1: I did a little research. Turns out it's true. The

53:23 Speaker 1: Koch brothers are big contributors to Herman Kane. The Koch

53:27 Speaker 1: Brothers are big contributors to a lot of Republicans. The

53:30 Speaker 1: Koch Brothers practically control the Republican Party financially. Because you

53:37 Speaker 1: always hear people on the right complaining about people like

53:39 Speaker 1: George Soros, who controls the Democratic Party and has all

53:43 Speaker 1: this influence and all this money and whatnot. Well, guess

53:45 Speaker 1: what you got your very own George Soros on the right.

53:49 Speaker 1: It's the Koch Brothers. If you don't know much about

53:54 Speaker 1: the Koch Brothers, I suggest you look into it. I'm

53:56 Speaker 1: not going to get into a big, long explanation because

53:59 Speaker 1: I want to get to this video clip. And we're

54:01 Speaker 1: already almost at the end of the show. It's eleven

54:03 Speaker 1: fifty four Eastern. So I'll let you guys go and

54:06 Speaker 1: do a little bit of research on the Koch Brothers.

54:09 Speaker 1: I mean, you can find the information easily. Just google

54:12 Speaker 1: Coke Brothers. You'll see who they donate to, where their

54:15 Speaker 1: influence lies, who they really control.

54:20 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna play this clip for you. This is

54:24 Speaker 4: a clip of Herman Kin.

54:27 Speaker 1: Being asked about the Koch Brothers, and my understanding is

54:31 Speaker 1: he didn't know that a camera was on him while

54:34 Speaker 1: he was being asked about this. But this is him

54:38 Speaker 1: talking about the Koch brothers and how great they are

54:42 Speaker 1: and their patriotism and how wonderful they are to the

54:45 Speaker 1: country and all this. This is Herman Kane singing the

54:48 Speaker 1: praises of these people. And listen to him. Listen to

54:51 Speaker 1: him talk about the Koch brothers, and then I'll come

54:56 Speaker 1: back and comment on this immediately afterward.

55:00 Speaker 15: Kin seems to have come out of nowhere, right. I mean,

55:04 Speaker 15: here's a guy that not a lot of people knew

55:07 Speaker 15: about a year ago.

55:09 Speaker 14: How did he do it?

55:10 Speaker 2: You know?

55:10 Speaker 15: And everybody talks about all, well, he's a great speaker, etc.

55:13 Speaker 15: There's definitely truth in that, right, but usually on the

55:17 Speaker 15: Republican side, on both sides, but certainly on the Republican. Well,

55:20 Speaker 15: you don't really do this without some sort of money

55:22 Speaker 15: backing you up. Well we found out where the money's

55:25 Speaker 15: coming from. Prepared to be shocked. Turns out Herman Kin

55:29 Speaker 15: has been backed by the Koch brothers all along. So

55:33 Speaker 15: let me give you a long list of things that

55:35 Speaker 15: they of how they backed Herman Kane. Ever since two

55:38 Speaker 15: thousand and five, Kin has led the Americans for Prosperity's

55:42 Speaker 15: new Prosperity Expansion project. Here's what you get if you

55:46 Speaker 15: lead a project for the Koch Brothers a lot of money.

55:49 Speaker 15: So since five they've been like Herman Kain, you're our guy. Man,

55:54 Speaker 15: Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna need you to lead a project. Absolutely,

55:58 Speaker 15: here's a lot of cash. And now say whatever the

56:00 Speaker 15: hell we want you to say, he was, He's got

56:04 Speaker 15: a campaign manager and achieve his staff now right of

56:06 Speaker 15: course for his presidential campaign.

56:07 Speaker 14: Where do they come from?

56:08 Speaker 15: Well, you look at that. It's Mark Block, who served

56:10 Speaker 15: as a president for Americans for Prosperities Wisconsin chapter. In fact,

56:15 Speaker 15: he's the one that apparently commissim the run for president

56:17 Speaker 15: in the first place. Again, Americans for Prosperity totally funded

56:20 Speaker 15: by the Koch brothers. So the Coch brothers give Herman

56:23 Speaker 15: Kine money, says OZ five. Then they get one of

56:25 Speaker 15: their guys to go convince Herman Kane that he should

56:27 Speaker 15: run for president because they love his ideas about lower

56:30 Speaker 15: taxes for rich people. Shocking enough, And then there's a

56:33 Speaker 15: long list. He headlined a Coke backed anti climate rally. Again,

56:37 Speaker 15: you get paid for all those speeches Kane attended the

56:40 Speaker 15: Koch brothers private biennial meeting in Palm Springs where they

56:43 Speaker 15: colluded on how to defeat democrats, which is their right.

56:45 Speaker 15: But Caine's been with them all along. Kane traveled to

56:48 Speaker 15: Wisconsin backed by the Cochs to fight the unions. He

56:51 Speaker 15: was also a featured speaker at the Coke funded Right

56:54 Speaker 15: Online conference. Again, every time he speaks, he makes money

56:57 Speaker 15: from the Koch Brothers, right. So the thing is you

57:00 Speaker 15: got to understand about this is that it's not like

57:02 Speaker 15: they go in two thousand and five into a smoke

57:04 Speaker 15: phil room and they say, Herman Kane, I know you

57:06 Speaker 15: don't believe any of this, but we need you to

57:07 Speaker 15: go out and say all this stuff.

57:08 Speaker 14: And we'll pay.

57:09 Speaker 15: That's not how it works. The way it works is

57:11 Speaker 15: that this is a big, big country. So they scour

57:14 Speaker 15: the country for who is someone we can use as

57:17 Speaker 15: a puppet as a tool, right, as Phil Davidson would say,

57:21 Speaker 15: either as a weapon or as a tool, and in

57:23 Speaker 15: this case mainly as a tool.

57:25 Speaker 14: Right. And they go, oh, this.

57:27 Speaker 15: Herman Kane got He's saying a lot of the NASAs.

57:29 Speaker 15: We like, Let's pour money into him and rise him up.

57:31 Speaker 15: Let's take him from obscurity to make him a national

57:34 Speaker 15: figure and if we can't, let's get him a run

57:35 Speaker 15: for president. Why do they want to do that, because

57:38 Speaker 15: then they feed him this plan which he presents called

57:40 Speaker 15: the nine nine nine Economic Plan, which he cuts taxes

57:43 Speaker 15: to nine percent across the board in all the different categories.

57:47 Speaker 15: It is estimated that the Koch brothers tax rates would

57:50 Speaker 15: fall from twenty eight percent to eleven percent. They would

57:53 Speaker 15: save billions of dollars if Herman Kane was elected and

57:58 Speaker 15: put that plan forwards. So now just don't take our

58:01 Speaker 15: word for it. Let's listen to Herman Kane. Herman Kane,

58:04 Speaker 15: what do you think about the Koch brothers.

58:06 Speaker 9: What do you think of David.

58:07 Speaker 7: Koch David Coch? Yes, I think David Koke is a

58:11 Speaker 7: patriot because David Coke cares about the future of this country.

58:15 Speaker 7: His brother, Charles Koch is also a patriot. They care

58:18 Speaker 7: about the future of this country.

58:20 Speaker 1: What do you think about the criticism that some on

58:22 Speaker 1: the left have levied their way.

58:24 Speaker 7: I think they criticize the Koch brothers and what they

58:28 Speaker 7: do simply because they have no other way to try

58:33 Speaker 7: and attack them. It is the typical liberal way. I

58:37 Speaker 7: get attacked because of my conservative views. They get attacked

58:41 Speaker 7: because they happen to be rich, and they happen to

58:43 Speaker 7: believe in America. They happen to believe in the Constitution,

58:46 Speaker 7: they believe in a Declaration, they believe in, you know,

58:50 Speaker 7: the values of the found and Father. That's why they

58:52 Speaker 7: get attacked. That's why they get attacked.

58:55 Speaker 15: I love that they get attack. Is there Americans who

58:57 Speaker 15: love the Constitution. Yeah, the liberals hate the Constitution. That's

59:00 Speaker 15: why they were livid when Bush shredded the Fourth Amendment, right,

59:06 Speaker 15: and then the different parts that challenged the First Amendment.

59:08 Speaker 15: As for a lot of liberals, the number one issue.

59:11 Speaker 15: But that's the usual trick. The founding follows are with us, right,

59:14 Speaker 15: and then second of all, apparently we attacked them because

59:17 Speaker 15: of their conservative views. Well, that's true, because we disagree

59:19 Speaker 15: with your conservative views.

59:20 Speaker 4: What do you want us to do?

59:21 Speaker 15: And it's not like conservatives ever attack liberals based on

59:24 Speaker 15: their views, right. But my favorite was they attacked them

59:27 Speaker 15: because they're rich. We don't mind the Koch brothers being rich.

59:31 Speaker 15: Steve Jobs was rich, Bill Gates is rich, Warren Buffett

59:34 Speaker 15: is rich. It ain't about being rich, it's about using

59:36 Speaker 15: that wealth to buy the politicians to do crony capitalism

59:40 Speaker 15: and make sure that they get all the breaks they get,

59:42 Speaker 15: the deregulation, they get the little taxes by buying people

59:45 Speaker 15: like you. Okay, that's the part we object to. But

59:48 Speaker 15: of course, overall, my favorite in that was immediately came

59:52 Speaker 15: jump into the defense of the coch They are true patriots,

59:55 Speaker 15: Charles Cochin, David Cokein giving me so much money and

59:58 Speaker 15: put me in this position to be.

1:00:00 Speaker 4: They are pumping.

1:00:00 Speaker 15: I mean, they are awesome because they love freedom in

1:00:03 Speaker 15: the Constitution.

1:00:04 Speaker 1: By the way, I must apologize, I I was so

1:00:07 Speaker 1: excited to uh, I was so excited about that to

1:00:11 Speaker 1: play play that Herman Kane stuff. I forgot to tell

1:00:13 Speaker 1: you that the other voice you're hearing in that setting

1:00:16 Speaker 1: up the clip that is, of course Jank Huger from

1:00:19 Speaker 1: The Young Turks And I'm a big, big Jank Huger fan.

1:00:23 Speaker 1: Uh the Young Turks dot com if you're interested in

1:00:25 Speaker 1: checking out his show, and he also has a show

1:00:27 Speaker 1: now on Current TV on cable so I haven't seen

1:00:31 Speaker 1: his TV show, but I'm a big Jank fan. And

1:00:33 Speaker 1: jenk is Is I always say, you know, I hope

1:00:36 Speaker 1: I live as long. I hope I live long enough

1:00:38 Speaker 1: to someday be as eloquent and uh and smart and

1:00:43 Speaker 1: spot on with my analysis of this stuff as jenk is,

1:00:46 Speaker 1: because he nailed it, you know, with with his his

1:00:51 Speaker 1: commentary on that clip. And if you see, like I said,

1:00:54 Speaker 1: if you see the video of Herman Kane being asked

1:00:58 Speaker 1: that question, it looks like he he doesn't even know

1:01:00 Speaker 1: the camera is there. He doesn't even know he's being recorded.

1:01:03 Speaker 1: But of course, as Jenks pointed out, you know, oh,

1:01:06 Speaker 1: the Koch brothers are patriots and you know this and that,

1:01:09 Speaker 1: and liberals attack them for being rich. You know, he's

1:01:11 Speaker 1: playing the class warfare card. Oh, liberals hate rich people,

1:01:15 Speaker 1: just like the Republicans play the class warfare card with Obama.

1:01:19 Speaker 1: Obama just wants to soak the rich because Democrats hate

1:01:23 Speaker 1: rich people. And it's all bullshit and it's tiresome, and

1:01:26 Speaker 1: oh guess.

1:01:27 Speaker 4: What turns out?

1:01:28 Speaker 1: Herman Kane is just like everybody else. He's such a

1:01:32 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air on the Republican side, isn't he?

1:01:35 Speaker 8: Nah?

1:01:36 Speaker 1: You know what, He's just another corporate scumbag bought and

1:01:39 Speaker 1: paid for by big money corporate donors. The people who

1:01:45 Speaker 1: really run this country. The Koch brothers. You've got not

1:01:50 Speaker 1: just the Koch brothers, obviously, there are others on both

1:01:52 Speaker 1: the left and the right. And I'm not just saying

1:01:55 Speaker 1: this to slam the right. On the left, you've also

1:01:58 Speaker 1: got big money, corporate donors who really can things. It's

1:02:00 Speaker 1: not a partisan thing with me. They're all bad. At

1:02:03 Speaker 1: the federal level, they are all bad. They are all

1:02:07 Speaker 1: bought and paid for. We do not elect them to

1:02:10 Speaker 1: represent us. We elect them to steal from us and

1:02:14 Speaker 1: to go to Washington and collect their money. It's like

1:02:17 Speaker 1: when a few years ago when John Bahner was actually

1:02:21 Speaker 1: this is how arrogant they get about this. If you

1:02:23 Speaker 1: didn't hear about this, when John Bayner was actually on

1:02:26 Speaker 1: the floor of the Senate handing checks to other Republican

1:02:33 Speaker 1: senators from or i'm sorry, from other Republican congressmen from

1:02:39 Speaker 1: big oil, big oil lobbyists. He was actually in the

1:02:44 Speaker 1: open handing out checks on the floor of Congress. That's

1:02:49 Speaker 1: how arrogant these people are about it. They're not even

1:02:52 Speaker 1: trying to hide it because they count on the rest

1:02:55 Speaker 1: of us not noticing. Because you know what, most of

1:02:58 Speaker 1: us don't know. Most of us don't notice. That's why

1:03:04 Speaker 1: you hear people say, Oh, I'm gonna vote for Senator

1:03:07 Speaker 1: so and so because I think he really he's a

1:03:10 Speaker 1: good Democrat. And you know, Republicans don't have my interest

1:03:14 Speaker 1: at heart, but but the Democrats do. They're looking out

1:03:16 Speaker 1: for the little guy. So I'm gonna vote for so

1:03:18 Speaker 1: and so, or I'm gonna vote for for for this

1:03:23 Speaker 1: person because he's a good Republican. And these these Democrats,

1:03:28 Speaker 1: they don't have the little guy's interest at heart. But

1:03:30 Speaker 1: but the Republicans, they're the party that are looking out

1:03:33 Speaker 1: for us. If you're doing that at the federal level,

1:03:38 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I don't mean to burst your bubble,

1:03:41 Speaker 1: but you're a fool, You're a rube. None of these people,

1:03:45 Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat, have your interest at heart. They don't

1:03:48 Speaker 1: care about you. They don't care about you. John Bayner

1:03:52 Speaker 1: doesn't care about you. Barack Obama doesn't care about you.

1:03:58 Speaker 1: Eric Canter doesn't care about you. Nancy Pelosi doesn't care

1:04:03 Speaker 1: about you. None of these people care about you. It's

1:04:06 Speaker 1: all a big scam.

1:04:08 Speaker 4: And guess what.

1:04:10 Speaker 1: For all of you who are so excited, enthusiastic about

1:04:13 Speaker 1: Herman Kane guess what, he doesn't give a shit about

1:04:18 Speaker 1: you either.

1:04:21 Speaker 4: It's all a big scam.

1:04:23 Speaker 1: As George Carlin said in that clip I played a

1:04:25 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. It's just a big club, and

1:04:29 Speaker 1: you and I are not in the club, but they

1:04:34 Speaker 1: let us think that we are, and then they laugh

1:04:37 Speaker 1: at us. They're all laughing at us. Herman Kane, he's

1:04:41 Speaker 1: laughing at all of you who have jumped on the

1:04:43 Speaker 1: Herman Kane bandwagon. You've made him arguably one of the

1:04:49 Speaker 1: front runners for the Republican nomination for president, and somewhere

1:04:55 Speaker 1: right now, Herman Kane is laughing at you because of it.

1:05:00 Speaker 1: So are the Koch brothers. They're all laughing at you.

1:05:05 Speaker 1: They're laughing at us, including me. I kind of thought

1:05:12 Speaker 1: the guy was interesting and kind of different, but then I,

1:05:16 Speaker 1: you know, learned the inevitable truth. They're all the same,

1:05:20 Speaker 1: my friends, they are all the same. We have so much,

1:05:26 Speaker 1: so much more to talk about that I did not

1:05:28 Speaker 1: get to on the live show. So I'm gonna sign off.

1:05:31 Speaker 1: I'm gonna upload the podcast of the live show so

1:05:35 Speaker 1: you can come back and relive the glory anytime you

1:05:37 Speaker 1: want to. And then I'm gonna record my Wednesday podcast

1:05:40 Speaker 1: of the Wednesday edition of Matt connorton Unleashed. Also, please,

1:05:45 Speaker 1: if you want more politics, be sure to also come

1:05:48 Speaker 1: back tomorrow, not just for the express edition of this show,

1:05:51 Speaker 1: but Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Eastern Time on

1:05:54 Speaker 1: Wednesdays here on ipmnation dot com. Myself and Gary Hopper,

1:05:59 Speaker 1: New Hampshire State Rep. Gary Hopper a Republican who I

1:06:02 Speaker 1: do respect and admire. Gary's a great guy and he's

1:06:05 Speaker 1: introduced me to a lot of great people at the

1:06:07 Speaker 1: state level who I think are honorable and really good people.

1:06:11 Speaker 1: So Rock Paper hand Grenades is a fun show. By

1:06:14 Speaker 1: the way, be sure to go back and listen to

1:06:16 Speaker 1: the audio podcast of last week's show, which is already up,

1:06:19 Speaker 1: because that one got really interesting. The topic was separation

1:06:24 Speaker 1: of church and state, and it got pretty contentious and

1:06:27 Speaker 1: I actually severely pissed off our guest and I'm not

1:06:32 Speaker 1: sorry I did it, but yeah, I got pretty interesting.

1:06:37 Speaker 4: So check that out.

1:06:37 Speaker 1: Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Wednesday is here on

1:06:41 Speaker 1: ipmnation dot com six pm Eastern time. Thank you all

1:06:44 Speaker 1: for being here with me tonight. Thank you DZ the

1:06:47 Speaker 1: gift for calling in. Always a great conversation with DZ

1:06:50 Speaker 1: the Gift. I'm gonna be seeing him on Thursday. I'm

1:06:52 Speaker 1: gonna be in a DVD that he's putting together. He's

1:06:54 Speaker 1: going to interview me about some of my own music

1:06:58 Speaker 1: business activities. So looking forward to that. That's always a

1:07:01 Speaker 1: great time. And I leave you now with another DZ

1:07:04 Speaker 1: the Gift track to wrap up the show. This is

1:07:06 Speaker 1: a favorite of mine. I think this is really good.

1:07:09 Speaker 1: This is called hurt called uh, I can't talk. I

1:07:11 Speaker 1: get all worked up and I start tripping over my tongue.

1:07:14 Speaker 1: This is called Hurting is the name of the track

1:07:17 Speaker 1: from DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on

1:07:21 Speaker 1: I p M nation dot com. Thanks everybody.

1:07:28 Speaker 14: I'm anomive and I need.

1:07:32 Speaker 12: So much.

1:07:34 Speaker 9: Me to pay.

1:07:52 Speaker 14: Some change.

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