Matt Connarton Unleashed episode 20

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1:12 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone, it's that time again, eleven pm on Tuesday night, eleven pm in the Eastern time zone. That is Welcome to Matt Connorton Unleashed. Here on the ipmnation dot com Live channel, so good to be with you tonight, broadcasting as always from Essence of Styling Souls at eight thirty two Elm Street in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. If you want to learn more about this great place, go to Essencemanchester dot com. A lot of cool things go on here. So I have a guest who's supposed to be calling in, although he's late, which is very unlike him.

1:46 Speaker 1: So I'm going to send him a text while I talk. I'm gonna try to do I'm gonna try to basically talk and chew gum at the same time. Here, I'm gonna try to send Dez the Gift a text while I introduced this show. Well, it would be a very short text. I'm just saying it's time. Dz the Gift is the host of The Hustle Report, a very popular hip hop show here on ipmnation dot com. It's been on the air with us for a few years and he actually he does a bunch of things. He's a hip hop artist and a music empresario.

2:20 Speaker 3: You know.

2:20 Speaker 1: He has his own record label, Massive Hustle Records. He produces, he does the radio show, does a lot of touring. He actually has his own radio channel here on ipmnation dot com, the Massive Hustle Channel, So definitely check that out. A lot of cool stuff on there. Check out his check out his tunes, some of the artists he works with. Check out the Hustle Report. It's a great show, really really cool. Right before we went on the air, I saw a oh, DZ is texting me back and he is saying, okay, so d Z should be calling in.

2:55 Speaker 4: And by the way.

2:57 Speaker 1: Right before I got on the air, I got a Facebook message from Trish the Dish, who is probably very far most of our listeners should be familiar with ipmnation dot com listeners.

3:06 Speaker 4: She's been on a couple of different.

3:08 Speaker 1: Shows on the station, but she asked if I had had a chance to see tonight's Republican debate, and unfortunately I missed it. I had to do a hypnosis session at our office and conquered. For those of you who don't know, I'm also a hypnotist. I probably don't sound very relaxing and hypnotizing when I'm on the air doing this show because I'm amped up. But anyway, here's zz DZ.

3:31 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.

3:31 Speaker 5: My friend John, how you doing good. How are you, man, I'm good, I'm good.

3:37 Speaker 4: Well, listen, we.

3:38 Speaker 1: Haven't talked to you on the air here in a while since. I think the last time was it was quite some time ago actually, when you called into our show remote transmission that I used to do here with Dan Randlette. So I think it's been a while since we've caught up. Of course, I'm gonna see you later this week. But why don't you fill everybody in on what what you've been up to. I mentioned the Massive Hustle channel and the radio show and all that, But why don't you get us up to speed because you're a very busy man.

4:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I'm working on, like many things, I'm working on a couple of people's projects, so I really been trying to focus on that. Well, I'm working on a couple of people's projects right now. I can't really release the time names until like the dates get caught up. Sure, So I've been working on that mostly. Of course, I've been on my radio show. I just finished my one of my projects with Move Fast. I'm going to re release that soon, but it's going to be hosted by a DJ, so I'm going to really release that and I've just been you know, just trying to make every point connect.

4:47 Speaker 4: Right, right?

4:48 Speaker 1: And can you are you at liberty to say anything about this DVD that you're putting together?

4:54 Speaker 5: Oh well, technically it's oh, it's probably gonna be like a Hustle Report DVD altogether. But I don't really have like the segment set up yet, So I don't really have you know, like section It's probably gonna be like sectioned off on like titled by what whoever is hosted, you know, like whoever is on that show. I probably have it like well, bosses and then rappers and then so forth and so off. Yeah, we'll be sectioned off like that.

5:27 Speaker 1: So, so you've been doing, uh, you've been doing some When you talk about these projects that you've been working on, do you mean you're you're producing other artists?

5:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm like, well, I'm requoting other artists, you know, the regular engineer and stuff like that.

5:43 Speaker 4: Sure.

5:45 Speaker 1: Are you Are you doing more of that than your own stuff lately? Or do you kind of you kind of divided up on it?

5:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, because like I've been getting put on the extra little task here and there from other projects from like hey, that's that's been keeping me busy for a while, and I've been moving, so you know how that goes?

6:04 Speaker 4: Absolutely?

6:06 Speaker 1: And what about these projects that you're working on? Are they released on Massive Hustle records or are these for other labels or are they just completely independent?

6:15 Speaker 4: How does that work?

6:16 Speaker 5: Like various artists and like one of like one of them or two of them could be considered a Massive Hustle project or need more into like Massive Hustle more involved with than others that you pick up work for friends and then like two projects are mostly like what I'm focused on right.

6:39 Speaker 1: And now are you are you doing any more videos online? I know we have a couple up on IPM nation dot com. You did ah you did a video for crunch time and time because yeah, yeah exactly. Are you gonna be doing more of those or are you more just focused on audio right now?

6:57 Speaker 5: Well? Pretty soon if Timon works out, pretty soon, I'm gonna start to have a song called wake Up. I like I have clips for it, so I'm probably gonna finish off that video. So that's probably be the next video I come.

7:12 Speaker 6: Up with soon, very nice.

7:15 Speaker 5: And then I have a couple other videos in mine. I just you know, Timon has to all work out and everything and flow. But that's probably my next video. It should be coming up in a couple a month or so.

7:28 Speaker 4: Okay, oh very cool.

7:31 Speaker 3: Is that?

7:32 Speaker 1: Is that difficult making videos? Or I mean does a lot of work go into that? Does a lot of does a lot of set up in preparation go into that? Or do you just kind of wing it? I mean, how how does that work? I've never made a music video personally.

7:46 Speaker 5: Well, sometimes it depends how technical the song actually is. In the vision of the song. Yeah, it's just like a say, it's just one of those songs that really don't have any gap to it. It's just like a party song. Most of those can be fool like you can just win it, or if it doesn't have any like message directly and you can just win those type of videos. But if I have a message or something, usually you want to keep it around, like you know the topic and that's that that can become time consuming because like the places you might want to go and like say you have other places in other towns you want to go for locations, it could be time consuming.

8:26 Speaker 5: But like I did a video on like two hours before, but like I didn't have that many far locations, so it's all like go here, go there, go there, and then it's done.

8:36 Speaker 1: You know, do you have a crew of people that you work with when you make videos or is it is it just a couple of you with a couple of video cameras. I mean, how how extensive does that part of it get?

8:49 Speaker 5: Well, it depends how If it's it's just how it has to be. If it's a fas video that you just want to put up that you you know, one period of view, then you know it takes as much time as you put into it. Sure what was volunteering or going to help out? You know, the more people the narrative. But if you can't find the more people, then how you gotta get it done right?

9:13 Speaker 1: Right?

9:13 Speaker 4: D I y as they say?

9:15 Speaker 1: Is it when you go to different locations? This is something I was thinking about when I think it was a video for crunch Time. It looks like it's shot in a few different places. I'm curious to do you have to at the level that you're doing this, Do you have to get any kind of permission from local towns or anything that you're filming in or do you just go and do.

9:37 Speaker 5: It technically you should. Like if I say, like, if if you're going to do a big scene with a lot of people in like a field or something, you're probably gonna need some kind of permission before you like just go wing that. But if it's like if you have like a couple people and you have a couple of scenes, most of the time it's more like, oh, before anybody comes, you know, yeah, get the tlip done and keep it moving and until they show up and say you can't do that, and they keep it moving right.

10:12 Speaker 4: Exactly.

10:13 Speaker 6: It's a lot like, yeah.

10:15 Speaker 5: Our friend just lost like two thousand thouarsand on like city permits that he couldn't get his money back on. I'm like, oh that's crazy. Oh wow, yeah, primates is even high. And it's like just like and they when he said, when he told me, he's like he had to take it as a lost, I was like, oh no, Im like like pretty much the government just stoke them.

10:39 Speaker 6: Thus and I'm like, wow, well, you know, uh, all our our governments are our local you know, city and state governments are so are so broke these days that they're trying to they're looking for revenue anyway they can get it, you.

10:52 Speaker 5: Know their way through.

10:55 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, everything's everything's getting more expensive in that regard you are.

10:59 Speaker 4: You playing out at all?

11:01 Speaker 1: Are you doing any touring or any any live shows? I know you're you're you're so busy with with everything else. Do you have time to actually get out and play some shows?

11:09 Speaker 5: Not like, yeah, I do a couple of local shows handy and not like like sporadically get thrown a lot of shows. But I really don't get it to do as much as I'm going on because I got so much going on on my side to it's like more I take the ones I can or you know, or it has to be like a special ocage and kind of deal right now. Sure, But mostly I'm just working on the audio and video and trying to, you know, try to do the business side of things right.

11:36 Speaker 4: Right is.

11:39 Speaker 1: Do you have any any advice for because you've been doing this for a while and and you've had a lot of success, and you're you're very well connected. You have all these different artists that you work with who are great. I mean, you're you're doing a lot of really good stuff. Do you have any advice for young kids who are just kind of starting out in the in the hip hop game, you know how to how to get going and and what they need to do to not even necessarily get to your level, but just to get out there and get noticed and have at least a taste of success.

12:10 Speaker 1: Well, any advice, because I'm sure people ask you.

12:14 Speaker 5: Well, right now, it's like a lot of people are not willing to work with other people. I would say, try to make a connection with other people and try to like have like if you have your neighborhood, have your neighborhood involved with your project, you know, like if you have other friends that are into the music, try to put a little drive into your friends and try to make a little team because like doing stuff by yourself usually doesn't work as good as you might think.

12:44 Speaker 4: Sure, sure need one at least.

12:46 Speaker 5: Two people, three people, no matter how you look at it. So I say, don't be too arrogant, like, don't think you're better than everyone from the beginning, because we all have gold. We're all trying to get some me It's more like how can we work together to get there faster because the music is not fast. More like patience and timing and you know, studying all that other stuff.

13:13 Speaker 1: Absolutely I always say, you know, in the music industry, you got to crawl a mile just to gain an inch. And and I think what you said is true. You know, putting a team together, networking is extremely important. No man is an island, not in this business, that's for sure.

13:29 Speaker 5: Yeah, these are the people that are like solo artists. Usually it all comes down to like behind and they had five other people, six other people before they actually got Starady.

13:41 Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I mean there really is no such thing as a solo project. Yeah, you know, you can, you can call it that, but but everybody's got.

13:50 Speaker 4: People behind them.

13:51 Speaker 1: And you know, even if you go to see a solo artist perform, like say you have a band. You know, a solo artist who goes out and performs with a live band, Well, they're not really performing solo.

14:02 Speaker 4: They have a band behind them.

14:03 Speaker 1: You know, there's really it's it's uh, yeah, you can't really do it on your own. You have to you have to make those connections with other people. And especially, like you said, if you can find other people locally in your community who are interested in what you're doing, that'll go a long way. And and it and it starts with that. How did you start out. I mean, what what was your first because you wear different hats in the industry as far as what you do.

14:31 Speaker 4: Did you did you just.

14:32 Speaker 1: Start out rapping and then you decided you wanted to start a label and and do radio shows or what was the what was the beginning of of this whole thing for you?

14:41 Speaker 5: Well, pretty much the whole thing was like I started right, I was like over writer, and I just wrote all the time. And then all my friends started going to the studios, and me myself, at the point in time, I didn't have money or like a studio close enough that was actually reasonable to actually go to. So it kind of came down to and then I moved to all the like I heard about all the music stores. I just started going to music stores a lot. And then I just decided, I'm like, you know, I might as well start buying like studio equipment.

15:14 Speaker 5: So I started buying it, and I bought a couple like I bought a program, and then the little book. I started in the book, and then I just started putting music together. Like a lot of people went to school with I. Hey, school was at my round or my funding wasn't right for school to be honest, So sure, I had to do what I had, So I just started buying equipment and started engineering and yeah for that, and then I really and then I just engineered my own music. I did. A couple of my friends got into it, well, they were into it before, but since I had a studio, it was more accessible for us to get work done.

15:51 Speaker 5: So we just started working and just kept working. And that's all it is.

15:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you've definitely got a lot of work ethic and drive, and it shows up in not only your output, but in the I know I've noticed in the lyrics track like Crunch Time again, I'll go back to that, and a lot of a lot of your tracks. That seems to be a central theme of yours is talking about how you got to hustle, You got to really do the work. You know, you can't you can't just talk about it. But I think you and I once had a conversation a long time ago when we first started working together on this radio stuff, when you were you were talking about, you know, you got to play your position and you got to work, and a lot of people don't understand that, Uh, you know, you really got to put the work in.

16:38 Speaker 1: You got to make the effort. You can't. You can't sit around and say, I hope this happens, I hope I get discovered or whatever. You got to go out there. You got to put yourself out there and do the work.

16:51 Speaker 5: And that's probably, like I think, for a lot of people, that's the scariest part of it because like a lot of artists, I rumants, who it's like the willing studio work, but as soon as like the actual work comes into it, they actually have to put into work for their own projects. Sometimes it like it comes to a big halt, like huh, like like that's the biggest thing. So you know, it's like so after this is done, what are you gonna do? It's like, well, I didn't know I had to do anything else. Like it.

17:19 Speaker 5: It's cool because a lot of people will be willing to pay for that, like pay someone else to do that. Sure, Sometimes like that you lose the person, Like you know what I'm saying, You move the person when you don't have that person in your face. It's kind of cool to I feel like, it's kind of cool to meet the person when they first start. You know, it gives you a better connection, you know, like when they first started, you see that local sound like, oh man, I remember when that person had that song right seven years ago, and then when they blow up, it seems like wow, you know, you got to know them.

17:54 Speaker 5: It's more even if they're not from your town. Any artist you listen to that first music from the beginning and then you hear him six years later, like I don't know.

18:06 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people get.

18:09 Speaker 1: I'll say tainted for lack of a better word, by the major label system as far as their material, because what I like is a lot of local hip hop and and you know, underground stuff and a lot of a lot of the artists that you play on your show, and but a lot of what you hear on will say ninety four or five because the area that our highest concentration of listeners and is probably familiar with ninety four to five out of Boston. You know, you hear a lot a lot of it kind of sounds the same, and it's you know, I mean I often think of, you know, when talking about hip hop, I think of I don't know how you feel about fifty cent, But his early stuff like how to Rob I think is a great track.

18:53 Speaker 1: It's clever, it's funny and whatnot, but you wouldn't expect to hear anything like that from him now now it's all I mean, I'm not a fan of of anything he's done in the last I don't know, five six years, however.

19:08 Speaker 4: Long it's been.

19:09 Speaker 5: But I have to get Richard dies trying. No one knows what happened. Yeah, but yeah, like that's that's that's the thing. Like I haven't listened to the radio in like a year and a half now, like you know, like that's kind of like for the kids, like and a lot of artists I listened to or listen to or some of the artists I ran into. That's what a lot of artists driving for is that radio sound. Me myself, I think I haven't listened to radio enough to find like you know, like focus on that radio sound to a lot of people like, well this is what I'm going with my project.

19:45 Speaker 5: And certain people I really can't work with. It's like I'm not even a factor of I hate him. It's more like not like in that music or I actually want to work with, but certain people like won't be Maybe I won't be. I don't know, maybe I just can't complete their cask you.

20:03 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, sometimes.

20:05 Speaker 5: Of businesses like that, I can't you know, I can't take it as all man, you know, reflect that in business sometimes.

20:12 Speaker 1: But have you have you worked with people or try to work with people who've literally said to you they they've actually used that phrase that they want that radio sound.

20:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like, I want that hit sound that one persons referred to as I wanted to I want that Drake sound. I was like, I really thought that. I felt crazy, hope me. They wanted to sound like another artist. I totally like. I was like, I don't even know what to respond to that. Yeah, Like, how can I how can I complete making you someone else? What? I'm just looking at that one Drake sound, that one Drake take. I'm like, do you even sing? I don't understand how could you ever sound like someone else?

20:58 Speaker 6: Right?

20:58 Speaker 1: Right?

21:00 Speaker 5: But a lot of people, like I think they're like taking other people's material, really running it through their brain a little deep and just trying to go with it. Because that's seen a lot of artists to start to sound like other people, like exactly like other people. Sure, I can't for them before they started listening to this artist and act and they sound just like the artists they listened to, like, you know, the Little Lanes, the Drakes, So whatever they listen to on the radio, the music starts to sound like that, right Like music's like redundant right now.

21:30 Speaker 5: Well, of course music's always been redundant in the music like hip hop industry, but it's getting really bad, nass.

21:38 Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure a.

21:38 Speaker 1: Lot of these people too who do that, they they're probably also thinking of it from kind of a marketing standpoint of well, if I can sound like this person, I'm going to have a hit song too well, you know. And that's that's been pervasive in the music industry forever, not just in hip hop, but I think in all genres of music. We saw it, you know, we saw it with grunge in the nineties, all of a sudden, everyone wants to sound like they're from.

22:01 Speaker 4: Seattle, you know. Or in the eighties.

22:04 Speaker 1: I mean, when I was a kid, you know, hair metal, you know, all these uh yet all these hair bands, it sounded alike. And and I think now with a lot of the more not hip hop but electronic music, you know, a lot of people want to sound like Kesha or a Lady Gaga or this or that, because you know, it kind of does become like a almost like an assembly line kind of thing, where you know, it is a business. So the major labels, they they treat it like a business. Well, of course, they haven't always been very smart about treating it like a business, which is why part of why they're having problems now.

22:38 Speaker 1: But they they treat it like it becomes that assembly line kind of mentality. It's like, Okay, we had a hit with with this, we had a hit with X, so now let's make Y and Z sound like X and and it'll all be success. Well, and of course, uh that ends up backfiring eventually.

22:56 Speaker 5: But it seems like lately the radio still forces the same thing. So even if you give the like if you it seems like the radio has no conformity, Like they don't want to conform. They're like, we're just gonna run with this and we're sticking to this until I don't know, till the world ends.

23:14 Speaker 4: Right.

23:15 Speaker 5: I can't expect anything out of them. That's why, like I just do whatever else, Like, well, the.

23:22 Speaker 4: Thing is too. I think it's smart too.

23:25 Speaker 1: I think it's smart to ignore what's going on at the radio and try to do what you think sounds good, because I think chasing trends is pointless because if you chase, if you chase trends, by the time whatever material it is that you've created, that you've produced, by the time it works its way through whatever promotional pipelines you're putting it through, whatever is currently working for everybody else may not be working for everybody else anymore. Yeah, the net for all, you know, the next big thing might be your sound.

24:02 Speaker 5: You have the sound that you used to have before you conform.

24:05 Speaker 4: Right right exactly? You know, you don't know.

24:08 Speaker 1: It's it's so unpredictable, So you might as well do something that you like that you hope other people will like. But ultimately you have to be to support it as an artist or as a producer or or a marketing guy or whatever it is that you're doing management, it's got to be something that you're happy with, and because if you're not happy with it, it's you know, it's hard to fake that, you.

24:31 Speaker 5: Know what I mean, it'll show right through it. That's yeah, absolutely, that's yeah, that's good. I need try to keep my hands like if I I think, if I keep my mind busy with work, and anything else is good, right.

24:49 Speaker 1: Right, It's important to keep moving and let me ask you and we'll let you go in a minute, ez, But I want to ask you to the artists that you work with. Do they do they find you? Do you approach them? I mean, how does that work? Do you seek out artists that you.

25:04 Speaker 4: Like or are they finding you?

25:07 Speaker 5: Well? Sometimes it's more like a friend who say, hey, like i've I work with someone. Someone else will bring like a like a referral kind of deal. Or or sometimes I go or I go look for certain people that I want to work with that I was supposed to work with. I don't go too far out of the boundaries of who wants to work with me. Like some I'll reach out to other artists. Sometimes I get turned down, and it's cool, that's a part of the game. Sure, But if I reach out the first time and then you get mad at me when I don't reach out the second time, that just that happens?

25:44 Speaker 4: Does it really?

25:46 Speaker 7: Yeah?

25:46 Speaker 5: Because like I'll reach out and then person I'll turn me down, and then I guess they'll hear from a friend and then they'll call me back, like, hey, you know what, I want to do this then tho, I'm like I just offered that.

25:58 Speaker 1: Wait yeah, yeah, absolutely, well, you know, musicians can be uh can be fickle sometimes and you know and whatnot. We've all dealt with that. Well, DZ before we let you go, can you please let everybody know? I mean I I told everybody about the massive hustle channel here on ipmnation dot com. But can you fill everyone into on where else we can find you online? Where's the best place to go?

26:23 Speaker 5: Oh? Well, another place is, even though the negative name is called that crack dot com okay, a site. It's as a it's a mixtape site to like all like mixtape musicians. It's the holy grail of mixtape. It's a site that you can just go see all my projects and download all my projects. You can see my videos on that site too, So like, if if you can download my mixtape there too, you just put in DZ to give under the search bar and I'll pop up so all the information we'll pop up too.

27:02 Speaker 1: Excellent, And can we find you on Facebook and everything as well?

27:05 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Facebook and all that guy essentially Yeah, social networks?

27:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, very cool.

27:13 Speaker 5: You know.

27:14 Speaker 1: Well, d z U, we'll we'll let you go. I'm actually going to play a track and then uh, I'll come back and uh yap at the audience about some other things going on. But thank you very much for joining us here tonight. I'm gonna play uh after we let you off. I'm gonna play this track night for admittedly selfish reasons. I love it because you sampled my voice on this, which I think is just so cool.

27:38 Speaker 5: You know, I got to sit a little love.

27:39 Speaker 1: I hate absolutely absolutely, and I like the I like the nickname the pimp Juice. That's uh, I'm not sure why you call me that, but that's all right.

27:49 Speaker 5: Really doesn't have a connection. It's more like a respect factor that you got a nickname.

27:54 Speaker 6: Yeah.

27:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're trying to get nicknamed, so you have a nickname.

27:58 Speaker 8: You know.

27:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely I appreciate it, man, I think it's awesome. Yeah yeah, no, that's cool.

28:05 Speaker 4: So uh DZ.

28:06 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be seeing your Thursday anyway. But thanks very much, Thanks very much for calling in tonight.

28:10 Speaker 6: Man.

28:10 Speaker 1: This has been a great conversation. And everybody check out Massive Hustle and uh and the uh what was that website?

28:18 Speaker 9: Again?

28:18 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, crack, what is.

28:22 Speaker 5: At okay?

28:25 Speaker 4: Cool?

28:25 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that out right after the show, actually, because I haven't been to that yet. But DZ the Gift, thanks very much for joining us tonight.

28:32 Speaker 5: Man a wonderful night.

28:34 Speaker 1: All right, Man, take care, I'll see us soon, see you bye bye.

28:38 Speaker 4: All right, all right.

28:39 Speaker 1: That was DZ the Gift, host of the Hustle Report here on i PM nation dot Com on the Massive Channel, the Massive Hustle Channel. Rather, h I'm gonna play this track. After the track, I'm gonna come back talk some politics I've got. I've got so much to talk about. I missed the Republican debate tonight right here in New Hampshire. We do the show in Manchester, New Hampshire. But like I was saying before, I had a hypnosis session and then I came to the studio hoping to see a little bit of the debate here on the computer, and I couldn't find anywhere online.

29:11 Speaker 1: It was a CNN debate. I went to CNN dot Com. Couldn't find it streaming anywhere online. So I'll have to watch it later. I'm sure cnn'll be re running it all night, so I'll peep it out when I get home, or watch it on YouTube or whatever. And I'll have some debate analysis for you later in the week on the Express edition of the show. But I've got a thousand other things to talk about politically, and we're not going to get through it all tonight. Obviously, it's only an hour show. Whatever I don't get to tonight, i'll do in the Wednesday edition of the Express edition of Matt Connorton Unleashed.

29:44 Speaker 1: But the live show is not over yet. We're only halfway through. I'm gonna play this track, like I said, kind of for selfish reasons, because I'm on it. Dez actually samples my voice, so listen carefully. You'll hear me in there. He's actually sampled me on a couple tracks. I think it's pretty cool. I'm very flattered by that. It's good for my ego. So anyway, this is night by DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on i p M nation dot com.

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31:13 Speaker 14: I'm a wow.

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31:18 Speaker 3: Ship where my man got head half in the pin, never see the streets again.

31:24 Speaker 9: At the poop my pull pin, Yo, It's just me.

31:27 Speaker 14: Take in it what you want.

31:29 Speaker 3: My little man ain't gonna feed himself. And y'all just preaching for wealth. It's hard to faker. Should I speak. My people in the struggle are speaking for them. Paul Barry hard handed and hard and hairing out love folcus everything, no matter what bills, dog keeper bearing vast hustler cashall I rest bear love, I didn't sleep to the world give saying.

31:57 Speaker 9: What the fuck?

31:58 Speaker 8: Goto like Jimmy and not a sleepless Guta.

32:03 Speaker 13: Stand spoil, spin out side.

32:29 Speaker 3: Steaming, pray to come up every day, praying not to see the chap pop up, serve three sixty five, break it down five so let it signed sealed, the recoiled damage other John stole money, No aim, he ain't innocent by stays putting in work because the old hand told freeze frame were says he got the real triple Coton paint and my brain sling pain when it's time to go because out with class, my child, you canna get everything I didn't have. Everybody want to be a walk and don't got the knowledge.

33:09 Speaker 5: Cass got to.

33:09 Speaker 3: Cut off by way for Charlet's tossing and turning. Did it anyway? Can't go back to sleeping in hallways? Man, It's tough.

33:20 Speaker 9: Another another.

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33:26 Speaker 1: You are now signed into the Hospitalnation dot mine.

33:30 Speaker 9: I heard screaming last night. I heard last night.

33:35 Speaker 14: I heard this night.

33:37 Speaker 9: I heard screaming. This, my heard spooming, this, my screaming

33:49 Speaker 9: now this night screaming.

33:56 Speaker 4: Did you hear it? Do you hear me?

33:57 Speaker 9: In there?

33:59 Speaker 1: That is uh that is night by DZ the Gift beat by Flowhalla with a little cameo from yours truly Pimp Juice as the DZ the Gift likes to call me. And I'm very honored to uh have been assigned that nickname. Like he said, you know, it's it's a respect thing and and I think that's really cool. And he's great to work with and I'm very honored to have him on ipmnation dot com the Massive Hustle Channel. If you're interested in hip hop, definitely check out the Massive Hustle channel Here on ipmnation dot com, check out The Hustle Report DZ's show.

34:33 Speaker 1: I love underground hip hop. I've always been into hip hop. Sometimes people are surprised that a pasty faced, thirty something New Hampshire white boy like myself is isn't a hip hop but you know, I grew up listening to a lot of metal, a lot of mainstream rock, and I probably and I still listen to all that stuff and I still love it, and I've played in a lot of bands, but I've always loved hip hop as well. I probably listened to almost as much hip hop as I do rock. And the underground stuff is great.

35:01 Speaker 1: The stuff that you're not hearing on radio, the stuff that hasn't been tainted by the major labels, I think is really really cool. And this kind of stuff DZ plays also too. If you're in an area where you have access to a college radio station. Again, on college radio you'll hear a lot of really cool, underground hip hop stuff that hasn't made it yet to clear channel and all these mainstream FM stations that just play a lot of stuff that, like we were talking about, it all kind of sounds the same.

35:33 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna play another DZ the Gift track at the end of tonight's show, personal favorite of mine called Hurting, which I think is one of his best tracks. It's really really good. So that's what we're gonna end the show with in approximately twenty five minutes. We got a little waste to go, like I was saying before the track, so much to talk about politically, and if you're joining us late, no, I'm not talking about tonight's Republican debate that happened right here in New Hampshire because unfortunately I had to miss it.

36:02 Speaker 1: Like I was saying earlier, I had a hypnotherapy session. I'm also a professional hypnotherapist. Like I said before, I know I don't sound very soothing when I'm on here during the show, but small lamped up. But when I do hypnosis, I talk like this in a very soothing tone, so I can help you to relax, and you know I do all that. And so I had to do a session, and then I came here to the studio, and I was excited because I got here. I got to the studio just in time to get online and watch the debate, and then I couldn't find it online, so I'll just watch it later.

36:35 Speaker 1: So I'll have debate analysis for you later in the week.

36:38 Speaker 4: But in the meantime, what to do?

36:40 Speaker 9: What to do?

36:40 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of stuff we could do. I think I want to talk about this whole Uh you know what, we have unfinished business. Here's here's what I'm gonna do. And whatever we don't get to tonight, I'll get to on the Express edition for tomorrow, which I'll end up recording right after the live show tonight anyway, so be sure to come back for that. But we talked a lot. We've been talking a lot lately about Herman Kane. Herman Kine is a big deal right now because Herman Kane Republican candidate for the presidency.

37:14 Speaker 1: He's black, which is interesting in itself because you don't see a lot of black Republicans. You see lots of black Democrats, not a lot of black Republicans, but they do exist.

37:25 Speaker 4: It's funny.

37:26 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I didn't think that there were any black British people. So until I remember Billy Ocean. He had a bunch of hits in the eighties. I heard Billy Ocean speaking in an interview. I actually saw him on MTV doing an interview and I was like, Oh, he's British and he's black.

37:44 Speaker 4: Who knew?

37:46 Speaker 1: So they had a Justice Mike a little bit. Hang on, bear with me, all right. The mic was tilted at an odd angle and it bothers me. I'm not very ocd about most things, but a mike tilted at a straight angle is bothersome. So Herman Kaine is a big deal. And he's a big deal because there has been a change in the mainstream media's perception of him, the political media, how they talk about him on you know, on these political channels, these news channels, on cable news. Because I'm watching this slow transformation that's taking place.

38:28 Speaker 1: Initially, Herman Kine, Herman Kane's been kind of a big deal from the beginning. Again, he has the novelty of being an African American Republican, but also a lot of Republicans have gravitated toward him, which I think is cool and I think it's I think it's refreshing because I tend to think largely because of issues like like immigration, for example, I have a tendency to perceive that there is still a segment of the Republican Party that is probably racist, a segment of it. Now, please, Republicans, don't freak out.

39:08 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Republicans are racist, but I'm just saying I'm sure that there is a small, probably a very very small, don't freak out on me, a small percentage of the Republican Party that doesn't like black people.

39:23 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean I.

39:26 Speaker 1: The way Republicans talk about Obama in many cases is not like Republicans talk about most Democrats. I mean, I remember when Bill Clinton was president and a lot of Republicans didn't like him, and you know, they would complain about him and whatnot.

39:39 Speaker 4: But with Obama.

39:41 Speaker 1: The thing that I've noticed about how Republicans talk about Obama. With Obama, it's not enough for a lot of Republicans to simply dislike his policies, to simply disagree with him politically, or to even make banal statements like oh, Obama's going to run the country into the ground or whatever. They're whatever their political prejudice is no. No, No, I don't know too many Republicans who simply dislike Obama. They don't dislike Obama. They absolutely hate Obama. They loathe Obama in a way that I don't see them loathing so forcefully other political figures with whom they disagree, And I kind of wonder where that intense hatred and loathing comes from.

40:29 Speaker 1: So I tend to think there's still some some racism on the right, maybe more subconscious racism, not intentional racism, not not conscious racism, but a subconscious racism, like they're freaked out by him because he doesn't look like them, in other words, because he's not white. You know, they're not They're not necessarily looking at him and saying, you know, and thinking the N word or whatever, but they're But they're still uncomfortable at the idea that a black man is leader of the free world on some level, on some subconscious level, because like I said, it's not enough to dislike him.

41:07 Speaker 1: No, I don't know anyone who dislikes Obama. You either like him or you absolutely despise him with every cell of your being. That's my observation. But on the other hand, seeing a guy like Herman Kane capture the imagination of the Republican Party the way that he has. That gives me some hope that that intense that the racism that I'm sure does exist in the Republican Party to some relatively small degree, that faction of the party may be even smaller than I thought, because a lot of Republicans like Herman Kane.

41:42 Speaker 4: So that's positive.

41:46 Speaker 1: And Herman Kane, the transformation that has taken place in how the media covers him is that initially Herman Kane was viewed and discussed as basically a fluke, a French candidate that no one could really take seriously because no matter how well he did, no matter how many big applause lines he would have in the debates, no matter how charismatic he would come across, no matter how much Republicans would say I agree with him, he's the one who's making the most sense. I mean, even that douchebag Hank Williams Junior on his Fox and Friends appearance where he compared Obama Hitler even he said, this guy who you know, you know, he has a Confederate flag hanging somewhere in his house.

42:34 Speaker 1: Even Hank Williams Junior said, Herman Kane is the only one who's making any sense right now.

42:40 Speaker 4: And that's good.

42:42 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Republicans can embrace a black man.

42:46 Speaker 4: That gives me hope.

42:47 Speaker 1: But what's happened is in the beginning, Herman Kane was regarded as a fluke. Even after he won the Florida Strapol, he was even then being talked about as a flu These political pundits, these analysts would say, well, Herman Kane, he's really making waves. He just won the Florida stoppol. That's kind of a big deal. But come on, we all know he's not gonna be the nominee. This will pass.

43:12 Speaker 15: Or the really.

43:13 Speaker 1: Condescending thing, and I think unfairly dismissive thing that I would consistently hear them.

43:18 Speaker 4: Say about him was that Herman Kane is.

43:22 Speaker 1: The rise of Herman Kane in the polls is merely a symptom, a byproduct of the incredible dissatisfaction, the disenchantment that Republican voters have with the rest of the field. They're not happy with Perry, they're not happy with Romney, Bachmann's a joke, Huntsman's a moderate Gingrich is a scumbag, so you know, so they're kind of in these polls they're going with Kane, but it doesn't really mean anything. It's a protest thing, which I came on the air and said, I thought that was unfair. Why do we have to make that assumption?

44:00 Speaker 4: Is finally, very.

44:03 Speaker 1: Slowly beginning to change because recent polls have shown Herman Kane, the guy that they treated like a fringe candidate, like a fluke. Recent polls have shown him as a front runner. I saw a poll a couple days ago. I think it was a rasmusen pole. It had him tied with Romney at seventeen percent. They were tied at seventeen percent. Perry I think, had fallen to nine percent. The rest of them, who gives a shit at this point. So it's finally happening where establishment media is finally beginning to take Herman Kane seriously.

44:46 Speaker 1: I still don't think any of them believe he has a shot at winning the nomination, but wouldn't that be interesting if he did. I'll tell you what, two black guys debating one Republican, one Democrat. Can you imagine it? Two black guys running for the presidency of the United States. Now, I thought it said something very positive. Look, whether you like Obama or you hate Obama, putting the partisanship aspect of it aside, I thought it said something enormously positive about America that we had finally elected a black man, an African American.

45:26 Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's African American. He's not fully black, but whatever.

45:33 Speaker 1: Actually I saw him dancing once and he was surprised. He kind of danced like Eddie Murphy's impression of how white people dance, which I thought was very strange. But anyway,

45:45 Speaker 1: can you imagine if Herman Kane were the Republican nominee, two black guys duking it out for the presidency, that would say something even more incredible about how far we've come as a country. So I think in that regard it would be very positive. And I found myself, even though I don't agree with Herman Kane, I understand.

46:08 Speaker 4: Why people like him.

46:09 Speaker 1: I kind of like the guy in some ways. He is kind of refreshing. He's a straight talker, and I dig that. And I defended him on the Friday edition of the Express Edition because after his interview with Lawrence O'Donnell on the Last Word on MSNBC. I thought Herman Kain was treated very unfairly by Lawrence O'Donnell, and I played for you guys the clip of Lawrence O'Donnell chastising him for not serving in Vietnam and basically calling him a draft dodger, which I thought was very unfair, and I thought Herman Kane's explanation made perfect sense, and I defended Herman Kine on that, And have another clip that I'd like to play for you where Herman Kane from that same interview, where Herman Kine is discussing, well, I'm sorry, I forgot what.

46:59 Speaker 1: Oh, Herman Kane was discussing his lack of participation in the civil rights movement, where again I thought Lawrence O'Donnell went a little tough on him. So I've talked a lot so far. You know, you know there's a big butt coming, right. I've talked a lot about the positive aspects of the Herman Kane candidacy and why I think we should take him seriously, and I kind of like the guy. But now I'm gonna take the gloves off and tell you some things I don't like. First of all, and these are minor complaints compared to the big one that's coming.

47:41 Speaker 1: First of all, he is a hard right wing guy. I mean, he's a right wing conservative, a true right wing conservative. He's no Mitt Romney, He's damn sure, no John Huntsman.

47:52 Speaker 4: He's a right winger. Okay.

47:56 Speaker 1: He believes that gay people choose to be gay. For example, he opposes gay marriage. He opposes lifting the ban on gays in the military. I mean, even just saying that much should give you an idea of where he is.

48:17 Speaker 4: Socially.

48:18 Speaker 1: He is both a fiscal and a social conservative. I could give you more examples, but I want to get to the big thing. My big problem with Herman Kane that I just recently learned about. Anyone who's been listening to the show and who knows how I feel politically knows that the reason, the real reason I'm an independent. Look, I'm an independent for a couple of reasons. For one thing, I'm an independent for the same reason that a lot of people are independent. They don't feel like they fit into either party.

48:56 Speaker 1: A lot of independence are fiscally conservative but socially liberal. That's me, So I'm an independent. I used to be a Democrat. Party moved too far to the left. I'll never be a Republican because they've moved too far to the right. So I got nowhere to go. I'm stuck in the middle, so that's where I sit. I'm a centrist. I'm an independent. But there's another reason I'm an independent at the federal level. And I want to be clear that I'm talking about the federal level because I've been meeting a lot of people here in New Hampshire.

49:32 Speaker 1: I've been meeting a lot of people who serve at the state level, who I think are good people. But at the federal level, I despise both parties because and to longtime listeners of the show, I apologize if this is redundant, but to people who are new, I have to make this clear, and it relates to what I'm about to tell you about Herman Kane that you might not know because the mainstream media isn't going to go out of their way to tell you because in order for the mainstream media to tell you this, it would require someone in the mainstream media to commit an actual act of journalism, which so called journalists don't really like to do.

50:19 Speaker 1: There isn't that much of that I don't know why we still call them journalists if they don't actually practice journalism. Maybe we should come up with some other name for them, like a corporate shill. That might be a good name. Since big media is all owned by the corporations, that's who really controls the message.

50:41 Speaker 1: We shouldn't even call them journalists. Let's just call them shills.

50:46 Speaker 1: But that relates to my issue with Herman Kane, because it turns out Herman Kane is just like everybody else who wants to be present, or who wants to be a United States Senator or a United States congressman, anything at the federal level, or even governor of a state.

51:11 Speaker 1: My issue, and the reason why I hate all of them, both Democrats and Republicans at the federal level, is that they are all bought and paid for. The people who we send to Washington to represent us do not do not really represent us. They represent their donors. And by their donors, I don't mean the person who says, oh, I want to donate to Mitt Romney's campaign, I'm going to send in a check for twenty dollars. No, I mean the big money players, the lobbyists, the special interest groups, the corporations, the fat cats who really control what's going on.

51:50 Speaker 4: When you elect a.

51:53 Speaker 1: Particular person to represent you in Washington, you're not really represent them. I'm sorry, You're not really electing them to represent you. You are electing them to represent whatever set of lobbyists and corporate scumbags and big fat cat money donors and special interest groups, whatever set of those people you have decided, you have unwittingly decided whatever set of them you want to control the game. They are all bought and paid for. They do not work for us. And one of the things that people find so refreshing about Herman Kane is while he's not a Washington insider, he's never even held political office.

52:44 Speaker 1: He was a CEO of a major corporation. He's not a political insider. Well guess what, Guess what. Guess who is a huge supporter of Herman Kane. The Koke Brothers.

53:06 Speaker 9: You know who.

53:06 Speaker 1: The Koch Brothers are No, not Coke. They have nothing to do with Coca Cola. The Koch Brothers koc H. I found this out from a friend of mine, so I did a little research. Turns out it's true. The Koch brothers are big contributors to Herman Kane. The Koch Brothers are big contributors to a lot of Republicans. The Koch Brothers practically control the Republican Party financially. Because you always hear people on the right complaining about people like George Soros, who controls the Democratic Party and has all this influence and all this money and whatnot.

53:45 Speaker 1: Well, guess what you got your very own George Soros on the right. It's the Koch Brothers. If you don't know much about the Koch Brothers, I suggest you look into it. I'm not going to get into a big, long explanation because I want to get to this video clip. And we're already almost at the end of the show. It's eleven fifty four Eastern. So I'll let you guys go and do a little bit of research on the Koch Brothers. I mean, you can find the information easily. Just google Coke Brothers. You'll see who they donate to, where their influence lies, who they really control.

54:20 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna play this clip for you. This is a clip of Herman Kin.

54:27 Speaker 1: Being asked about the Koch Brothers, and my understanding is he didn't know that a camera was on him while he was being asked about this. But this is him talking about the Koch brothers and how great they are and their patriotism and how wonderful they are to the country and all this. This is Herman Kane singing the praises of these people. And listen to him. Listen to him talk about the Koch brothers, and then I'll come back and comment on this immediately afterward.

55:00 Speaker 15: Kin seems to have come out of nowhere, right. I mean, here's a guy that not a lot of people knew about a year ago.

55:09 Speaker 14: How did he do it?

55:10 Speaker 2: You know?

55:10 Speaker 15: And everybody talks about all, well, he's a great speaker, etc. There's definitely truth in that, right, but usually on the Republican side, on both sides, but certainly on the Republican. Well, you don't really do this without some sort of money backing you up. Well we found out where the money's coming from. Prepared to be shocked. Turns out Herman Kin has been backed by the Koch brothers all along. So let me give you a long list of things that they of how they backed Herman Kane. Ever since two thousand and five, Kin has led the Americans for Prosperity's new Prosperity Expansion project.

55:44 Speaker 15: Here's what you get if you lead a project for the Koch Brothers a lot of money. So since five they've been like Herman Kain, you're our guy. Man, Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna need you to lead a project. Absolutely, here's a lot of cash. And now say whatever the hell we want you to say, he was, He's got a campaign manager and achieve his staff now right of course for his presidential campaign.

56:07 Speaker 14: Where do they come from?

56:08 Speaker 15: Well, you look at that. It's Mark Block, who served as a president for Americans for Prosperities Wisconsin chapter. In fact, he's the one that apparently commissim the run for president in the first place. Again, Americans for Prosperity totally funded by the Koch brothers. So the Coch brothers give Herman Kine money, says OZ five. Then they get one of their guys to go convince Herman Kane that he should run for president because they love his ideas about lower taxes for rich people. Shocking enough, And then there's a long list.

56:34 Speaker 15: He headlined a Coke backed anti climate rally. Again, you get paid for all those speeches Kane attended the Koch brothers private biennial meeting in Palm Springs where they colluded on how to defeat democrats, which is their right. But Caine's been with them all along. Kane traveled to Wisconsin backed by the Cochs to fight the unions. He was also a featured speaker at the Coke funded Right Online conference. Again, every time he speaks, he makes money from the Koch Brothers, right. So the thing is you got to understand about this is that it's not like they go in two thousand and five into a smoke phil room and they say, Herman Kane, I know you don't believe any of this, but we need you to go out and say all this stuff.

57:08 Speaker 14: And we'll pay.

57:09 Speaker 15: That's not how it works. The way it works is that this is a big, big country. So they scour the country for who is someone we can use as a puppet as a tool, right, as Phil Davidson would say, either as a weapon or as a tool, and in this case mainly as a tool.

57:25 Speaker 14: Right. And they go, oh, this.

57:27 Speaker 15: Herman Kane got He's saying a lot of the NASAs. We like, Let's pour money into him and rise him up. Let's take him from obscurity to make him a national figure and if we can't, let's get him a run for president. Why do they want to do that, because then they feed him this plan which he presents called the nine nine nine Economic Plan, which he cuts taxes to nine percent across the board in all the different categories. It is estimated that the Koch brothers tax rates would fall from twenty eight percent to eleven percent.

57:53 Speaker 15: They would save billions of dollars if Herman Kane was elected and put that plan forwards. So now just don't take our word for it. Let's listen to Herman Kane. Herman Kane, what do you think about the Koch brothers.

58:06 Speaker 9: What do you think of David.

58:07 Speaker 7: Koch David Coch? Yes, I think David Koke is a patriot because David Coke cares about the future of this country. His brother, Charles Koch is also a patriot. They care about the future of this country.

58:20 Speaker 1: What do you think about the criticism that some on the left have levied their way.

58:24 Speaker 7: I think they criticize the Koch brothers and what they do simply because they have no other way to try and attack them. It is the typical liberal way. I get attacked because of my conservative views. They get attacked because they happen to be rich, and they happen to believe in America. They happen to believe in the Constitution, they believe in a Declaration, they believe in, you know, the values of the found and Father. That's why they get attacked. That's why they get attacked.

58:55 Speaker 15: I love that they get attack. Is there Americans who love the Constitution. Yeah, the liberals hate the Constitution. That's why they were livid when Bush shredded the Fourth Amendment, right, and then the different parts that challenged the First Amendment. As for a lot of liberals, the number one issue. But that's the usual trick. The founding follows are with us, right, and then second of all, apparently we attacked them because of their conservative views. Well, that's true, because we disagree with your conservative views.

59:20 Speaker 4: What do you want us to do?

59:21 Speaker 15: And it's not like conservatives ever attack liberals based on their views, right. But my favorite was they attacked them because they're rich. We don't mind the Koch brothers being rich. Steve Jobs was rich, Bill Gates is rich, Warren Buffett is rich. It ain't about being rich, it's about using that wealth to buy the politicians to do crony capitalism and make sure that they get all the breaks they get, the deregulation, they get the little taxes by buying people like you. Okay, that's the part we object to.

59:47 Speaker 15: But of course, overall, my favorite in that was immediately came jump into the defense of the coch They are true patriots, Charles Cochin, David Cokein giving me so much money and put me in this position to be.

1:00:00 Speaker 4: They are pumping.

1:00:00 Speaker 15: I mean, they are awesome because they love freedom in the Constitution.

1:00:04 Speaker 1: By the way, I must apologize, I I was so excited to uh, I was so excited about that to play play that Herman Kane stuff. I forgot to tell you that the other voice you're hearing in that setting up the clip that is, of course Jank Huger from The Young Turks And I'm a big, big Jank Huger fan. Uh the Young Turks dot com if you're interested in checking out his show, and he also has a show now on Current TV on cable so I haven't seen his TV show, but I'm a big Jank fan. And jenk is Is I always say, you know, I hope I live as long.

1:00:36 Speaker 1: I hope I live long enough to someday be as eloquent and uh and smart and spot on with my analysis of this stuff as jenk is, because he nailed it, you know, with with his his commentary on that clip. And if you see, like I said, if you see the video of Herman Kane being asked that question, it looks like he he doesn't even know the camera is there. He doesn't even know he's being recorded. But of course, as Jenks pointed out, you know, oh, the Koch brothers are patriots and you know this and that, and liberals attack them for being rich.

1:01:11 Speaker 1: You know, he's playing the class warfare card. Oh, liberals hate rich people, just like the Republicans play the class warfare card with Obama. Obama just wants to soak the rich because Democrats hate rich people. And it's all bullshit and it's tiresome, and oh guess.

1:01:27 Speaker 4: What turns out?

1:01:28 Speaker 1: Herman Kane is just like everybody else. He's such a breath of fresh air on the Republican side, isn't he?

1:01:35 Speaker 8: Nah?

1:01:36 Speaker 1: You know what, He's just another corporate scumbag bought and paid for by big money corporate donors. The people who really run this country. The Koch brothers. You've got not just the Koch brothers, obviously, there are others on both the left and the right. And I'm not just saying this to slam the right. On the left, you've also got big money, corporate donors who really can things. It's not a partisan thing with me. They're all bad. At the federal level, they are all bad. They are all bought and paid for.

1:02:08 Speaker 1: We do not elect them to represent us. We elect them to steal from us and to go to Washington and collect their money. It's like when a few years ago when John Bahner was actually this is how arrogant they get about this. If you didn't hear about this, when John Bayner was actually on the floor of the Senate handing checks to other Republican senators from or i'm sorry, from other Republican congressmen from big oil, big oil lobbyists. He was actually in the open handing out checks on the floor of Congress.

1:02:48 Speaker 1: That's how arrogant these people are about it. They're not even trying to hide it because they count on the rest of us not noticing. Because you know what, most of us don't know. Most of us don't notice. That's why you hear people say, Oh, I'm gonna vote for Senator so and so because I think he really he's a good Democrat. And you know, Republicans don't have my interest at heart, but but the Democrats do. They're looking out for the little guy. So I'm gonna vote for so and so, or I'm gonna vote for for for this person because he's a good Republican.

1:03:26 Speaker 1: And these these Democrats, they don't have the little guy's interest at heart. But but the Republicans, they're the party that are looking out for us. If you're doing that at the federal level, I'm sorry, but I don't mean to burst your bubble, but you're a fool, You're a rube. None of these people, Republican or Democrat, have your interest at heart. They don't care about you. They don't care about you. John Bayner doesn't care about you. Barack Obama doesn't care about you. Eric Canter doesn't care about you.

1:04:00 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi doesn't care about you. None of these people care about you. It's all a big scam.

1:04:08 Speaker 4: And guess what.

1:04:10 Speaker 1: For all of you who are so excited, enthusiastic about Herman Kane guess what, he doesn't give a shit about you either.

1:04:21 Speaker 4: It's all a big scam.

1:04:23 Speaker 1: As George Carlin said in that clip I played a couple of weeks ago. It's just a big club, and you and I are not in the club, but they let us think that we are, and then they laugh at us. They're all laughing at us. Herman Kane, he's laughing at all of you who have jumped on the Herman Kane bandwagon. You've made him arguably one of the front runners for the Republican nomination for president, and somewhere right now, Herman Kane is laughing at you because of it. So are the Koch brothers. They're all laughing at you.

1:05:05 Speaker 1: They're laughing at us, including me. I kind of thought the guy was interesting and kind of different, but then I, you know, learned the inevitable truth. They're all the same, my friends, they are all the same. We have so much, so much more to talk about that I did not get to on the live show. So I'm gonna sign off. I'm gonna upload the podcast of the live show so you can come back and relive the glory anytime you want to. And then I'm gonna record my Wednesday podcast of the Wednesday edition of Matt connorton Unleashed.

1:05:44 Speaker 1: Also, please, if you want more politics, be sure to also come back tomorrow, not just for the express edition of this show, but Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Eastern Time on Wednesdays here on ipmnation dot com. Myself and Gary Hopper, New Hampshire State Rep. Gary Hopper a Republican who I do respect and admire. Gary's a great guy and he's introduced me to a lot of great people at the state level who I think are honorable and really good people. So Rock Paper hand Grenades is a fun show. By the way, be sure to go back and listen to the audio podcast of last week's show, which is already up, because that one got really interesting.

1:06:22 Speaker 1: The topic was separation of church and state, and it got pretty contentious and I actually severely pissed off our guest and I'm not sorry I did it, but yeah, I got pretty interesting.

1:06:37 Speaker 4: So check that out.

1:06:37 Speaker 1: Rock Paper hand Grenades six pm Wednesday is here on ipmnation dot com six pm Eastern time. Thank you all for being here with me tonight. Thank you DZ the gift for calling in. Always a great conversation with DZ the Gift. I'm gonna be seeing him on Thursday. I'm gonna be in a DVD that he's putting together. He's going to interview me about some of my own music business activities. So looking forward to that. That's always a great time. And I leave you now with another DZ the Gift track to wrap up the show.

1:07:06 Speaker 1: This is a favorite of mine. I think this is really good. This is called hurt called uh, I can't talk. I get all worked up and I start tripping over my tongue. This is called Hurting is the name of the track from DZ the Gift here on Matt Connorton Unleashed on I p M nation dot com. Thanks everybody.

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