Matt Connarton Unleashed: Horsefly Gulch

0:00 And we have some very special guests in studio with us. We've got the band horse Fly Gulch here and uh, let me bring those mics up there, and uh, this is uh um Adam, let's start with you, and let's let's have you all before you play, We'll have you tell us who you are and uh what you do in the band. You get to go first because I'm gonna knew the longest. All right. Hey, my name is Adam Cody and I've played drums all right pretty much? Yeah, all right, and you sir, Hello, I am Paul Davidson and I play bass and uh also do some backing, singing and some percussion as well.

0:39 Yes, yes, you gotta for for those not watching online, you've you've got a what do you what do you call that? A horse? Uh? A horse stambourine? I don't know what you Yeah, kind of a kind of a Godfather vibe. Did you did you wake up one day with that and then you were like, oh, put a tambourine on it. I woke up. He was looking at me and all right, very good. And you, sir, you know that thing that's hard movie written all over it. By the way, I think he found it at some yard sales somewhere and it's gonna be gonna be hunting the studio for the rest of Yes.

1:17 Yes, my name is Steven had a Chuck. I go by Steven Scott sometimes depending on the take. Um, I play guitar and I sing in horse Flag oats very good. Well, Um, so what we're gonna do is these guys are gonna play live for us, which I'm really looking forward to, and then we'll we'll take a quick break and then we'll come back and we're gonna talk and catch up on everything these guys are doing. But what do you guys? Um? And we'll have to kind of sound check on the fly, but I'm pretty I'm pretty good at that.

1:46 It ends up sounding surprisingly good in this room. Actually, Um, what are you guys gonna play for us? This is a song called Burn the Breeze. Burn the breeze all right, whenever you're ready? All right?

2:00 I don't love to come down, puts me back and to start dam must be another way to man the spruce gain heart you with the childhood love of mine. My greedies is mistake, And day I walked away, I heard your voice call my name, and now her voice call my name.

3:04 Spurn the breeze together. Let's not waste standtime. Spurn the breeze together.

3:19 Get away this time it's river flo steep all the way to the sea.

3:52 I swept from the desert to the trees. You ain't never can read to me now, it's but the breeze together. It's not waste standard times, but the breeze together. Get way these times. It's been the breeze together. It's not waste standard times, but the breeze together. Get wait these times, get wait these times, God way these time. Yeah, Oh fantastic. Well gentlemen, well done, thank you. I love it. I love it. If you're just joining us a horse fly gulch, just here with us in studio, what we'll do is we'll take a break.

5:05 We'll let you guys put your stuff down and get comfortable, and uh, I'll um while we do that, I'm gonna play. I'm play an old mindset X song. What do you think? Yeah? What's uh? What should I play? From? Oceans? I got Oceans pulled up here. I think we're always a fan of Island. Uhland? Okay, no swears in it, obviously, Yeah, this is there's a good twelve minute song on there if you really want to go crazy, No, that's all right. We'll go with so Island. Yeah, alright, Island. It is all right. And and then we'll we'll come back and we'll talk with these guys.

5:40 Check this out. This is island Mindset X, and we'll explain everyone why I figured it out. Play a Mindset X song. Oh that's cool. That is Island from the band Mindset X. And you guys know what happened to those guys? Or do you ever see him? That beast has taken a nap right now. It's hibernating, but not dead. I think last time I saw him they were in a rubo. There you go, getting a tan if you're if you're just joining us, We are joined in studio by the guys from Horse Fly Gulch. But we're all three of you also in Mindset X. That's the same okay, Um?

6:15 Yeah, that band was around for a long time. Now is does the new project replace that? Or well Mindset X continue in the future as well. And in addition to that, I mean again, you know after twenty years it's in hibernation. The Mindset X. Yeah, um, but we're focusing just on the new project right now. But yeah, the old one's not dead. It's just just sleeping. Yeah, there actually is an album written too, right, an album in the can Oh. Wow. It's kind of a weird story actually when I now that you kind of reflect on it.

6:47 Like, so, before the whole COVID thing hit, right, we were gearing up to write a new album as Mindset X, and then COVID hit, right, so we couldn't get together for a little while. And then time we started going back, like a couple of years later, getting back together and rehearsing those songs. We were like, man, these songs they sound they feel really old now because they were like three years old at that point, right, And we were like, well, we can't just not record them, like we spent all this time writing them.

7:14 Yeah, so we did record them, right, um, and we released a couple of them and then and then we just we just said it just just time, Puss something a little bit different, right, you do medal for twenty years straight. I think you are My sex was never so much this but locked inside a box of what you could particularly do as a band when you're expected to kind of put out a certain style of music, right, Yeah, And I think we just came to a point we were like, you know what, let's try something new. Does um do any of those songs make it into this project or do you do you keep them?

7:46 You keep them completely separate? Yeah? Is that the plan going forward or is there a chance of anything? Kind of? Yeah? I do. I mean, I mean I could tell you from a personal respective. We've discussed this. I think as a band is not only is it something new from a musical perspective, but I think it's something new just challenging us, not for me anyway, not to cover things up with the storation or you know, to see if I can actually play something, you know, cleaner, because there's a lot more room for mistakes when people can hear oh yeah you as a three piece and there's nothing behind it that's dirty or grunty or into that.

8:26 And I don't think that those songs would fit, particularly what we're doing right now. Yeah, makes sense because to be honest, I think the last my stuff was probably the most pruggy stuff we've done. The other thing is the new stuff is flowing, you know, unlike anything we've done in years, like we're basically writing a new song almost every time we get together.

8:50 We've been doing this pretty much just since the turn of the year, you know, on a new year, new project. And we're already on like ten songs. I mean, it takes a little while to record them, but yeah, you know they're in the set. You know we can come out and play him live. Yeah. Yeah, another full album written right, pretty much right, so we shouldn't have to, you know, write another ten We shouldn't have to pull anything, you know. By the way, our friend Texas Mike, although you might know him as Michael Martineau, but around here we call him Texas Mike.

9:19 He's in the chat room and he says, uh, I know Stephen uh aka the Deviant music through Ed Murphy and uh and Ellie Murphy. We saw him at Clemento's Pizza in Manchester. Oh you've spotted and you heard that fantastic commercial just about fifteen minutes ago. I think, didn't we not even Michael? How are you buddy? It plays in my mind all the time. It is catchy. It is yeah clement people people get mad at me for singing it, but it really it really does. Can we still bad for a riff. I can't. I didn't write it, so I can't, but yeah, I have at it.

9:56 I cannot imagine under any circumstances for anyone. We also do Martialles. There you go, there you go. Um, Now, are you guys playing playing out a lot with this project or well we just did our first show what a month ago? Yeah, and then we've got right down the street one coming up in Dover down at the Strand. It's a new it's a new venue for us. Oh yeah, Edgewise is in the chat room and they just posted a picture of them at the Strand. Yeah, it's like a cool, cool room. It's yeah, it's it's nice because one it's all ages and two it's just to be a beautiful venue.

10:33 Yeah. I didn't realize it was all ages. That's that's hard to find and that's I mean, that's important. I think this. Yeah, something we've been missing out on a lot. Oh yeah, definitely yeah. Um. And is that the show is dust profit on that show? Yes? Yes, ye, dust profit of course. Uh. I used to be in a band with Auto Kinsel Nice Chemical distance. So yeah, they're and they're in CID. Have you guys seen dust Profit Live. No, you know, very week, very intense, it'll be it'll be a fun night because they actually asked us.

11:05 We talked about this a while back as Mindset X, and we joined the bill as Mindset X. Oh back you know, six, like four or five months ago, whenever we discussed it. Yeah, And so then a couple months ago I texted the little chat group and I was like, Hey, I just want to let you guys know, we have like a Western rocketbilly thing Mindset X kind of sleeping even though it doesn't really fit with any of the style stuff going on. Can we just change the name? And they were like, yeah, cool, let's do it.

11:28 So it should be a really cool night in music. And I think we've always been about screw the genre, it doesn't matter. Just get a bunch of bands together that love what they're doing and open people's minds to listen to different styles of music. Right, And oh, I always been about that. Yeah, got a couple other lined up. Two. We got one right down the road at the shaftky In which that's where our first show was. Oh X, Well we'll be back there on the sixteenth of June, I believe ye. And then the twenty third up at Area twenty three.

11:56 Okay, my favorite new will play hang out there? Yeah, be close to me. Oh there you go, there you go, Yeah, Edgewise says the straight. I assume it's Chris in there. He says, all ages for those un h kids at the string. That makes sense. But why why do I hear a lot of good things about Area twenty three. I've been there, but not for a long time. What is it? Uh? But everybody's talking about not just because it happened if they happened to be close, but everyone's giving it rave reviews. Yeah, Kirk up there is one of the biggest supporters of local music north of Manchester anyway.

12:28 Yes, yep, Um, you can go in there any given night. There's live music. He's got open MIC's Wednesdays. I just saw an incredible band there. Um. Dan Bedrosian in the Secret Army Okay, pot of p funk. Oh he's playing. I've interviewed him, yeah, in in that little room. Yeah. It's mind boggling, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He was on the show. Was a few years ago now before it was before COVID. But um cool. Now, so when when you guys play live with this project. How many songs you have that you do live right now?

13:01 We've got ten? Oh okay, that's pretty solid. Ye nine yeah, forty five minutes to an hour. Yeah, yeah, depending on the jam mood. Very good, very good, horse Fly Gulch in the studio with us, and uh, these guys played live earlier, so if you missed it, you definitely want to go back and check the archive. And uh yeah, Paul, all right, tell us the story. So so again for for those who are of course, uh most most of the audience, I can't see you except on Facebook or on ninety seven, but you've got I'll let you describe it.

13:33 Your your instrument of choice that you brought today. So yes, um so, being a unique band, we decided to try different instruments and stuff in facts. Steve does a little mandolin here, BANJOI there, and I was like, oh, I need something right, and so we came up with the song. Actually we just played burn the Bridge and there's space in the middle in the in the beginning. Yeah, and I didn't want to just kind of stand there right. So being horse Flight Gulch, you know, we were out. Um, me and my wife and we were looking for props and stuff like that that we could use.

14:15 Yeah, and this is happens to be one of them. And what it is, it's it's one of the old riding horses. Yeah. Stick that the that the kids used to go around and and we added a little tambourine to it. And now you can witness it live, yes, you know, yeah, and uh, I might see somebody dancing around with it as well. Does the when when it squeaks? Has that made it in any of the songs or do you just do that? Oh? It definitely definitely yea Burned the Breeze. That was the debut of Yeah, Yeah, oh very good.

14:50 The only thing it's missing is a name. Yeah, so we don't have a name. Anyone on the chat's the name the horse? Peace? Feel free? We have a contact. Yes, yes, the winner gets to name the horse. Oh very nice, very nice. Where do you guys record? Because everything, uh, and and this has been the case, you know, not only with this band, but with the previous band. Everything sounds really good, just sounds really good. Where do you record? I assume it's changed over the years, but I'm happy to say that

15:22 this this every hust flag out song thus far has been recorded at our own recording studios, so excellent. Over the last five or six years, I've been kind of revamping and kind of rebuilding that whole thing. Yeah, saving here and there and buying little pieces of equipment and figuring out actually how to use it. Yeah, you know, so I think I finally got to a point where I feel relatively comfortable and you know, releasing stuff to the public, and um, it's definitely going to help us out because when Adam is ready to lay tracks, we just throw the mics up and go and don't have to go anywhere else.

15:56 It's beautiful not to say that we might you know, there's still is always the chance of of saying, let's go somewhere else that sounds different, or canna produce it behind it, or something happened, who knows what's going to happen. But I think from a convenient standpoint and from my own personal uh holy crap, I can actually do this standpoint. It's nice to be able to have that. So yeah, no doubt. Um has it always been that way, Like like even with the early mindset X stuff did you guys days in the early days, we you know, we started off probably the first two or three recorded at Steve's and then uh you remember the one the first place we went into but Drum one Downs.

16:35 We did like three full CDs there, yeah, Brian Sachs Rest in Peace yea. And we've also recorded at what's Jay's Oh yeah, yeah, Metronome okale like as he calls it, right, okill, and mastered at Metronome yea. So we think, you know, at the end of the day, I think we want to try something different, right, and I think, you know, I think every band wants to have a different sound, and if you're staying in the same place all the time, you get poured. And I think we didn't want to do that. We wanted to like try to branch out.

17:11 And yeah, branching out for us was branching in really right, And I think it's it's been great. It's been It's nice to go in my studio at you know, eleven PM and work till one. Yeah, and it's just nice to have that luxury oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's nice to live in an era where you know, you have so many different options as far as how you record, you know, and like we say, we did the original with the first couple of my six albums we did at Home too. Well. Yeah, the first one was fun. It was like two microphones hanging in a room, you know.

17:38 Yeah, And we did this whole concept album with just these two Chintzi mics hanging. Yet still same mic. Yeah. One of the mics I've just recently found is a it's a old radio shack condenser with a little switch on it. You put no kid, double a battery in there. Oh wow, we've found that and it's still worse like, yeah, use it and we use it as ahead in both of those songs, no kidding't be damned. Wow, that's amazing. It still works. That's a low fi sound. That's cool. Yeah. I bought that back when there was a radio shack in West Franklin, if that If anybody knows the area.

18:13 That was a long time ago. Oh yeah, jeez. Yeah, there used to be radio shacks everywhere. I think they're all gone right that completely, so they back online. I saw it, but then gotcha gotcha, Yeah, Adam. When I first met you, um way back, I was working at Strawberries Loddon Road and conquered and I remember you brought in a CD. You brought in a CD for me to check out Liquid Natives, Yeah, my first band. Yeah, yes, that was U. Now whatever ended up happening with because I remember actually going to see you guys live too.

18:43 It uh, I can't remember that. No. I might have seen you there, but I also saw you in Conquered. Oh she Antillies and Conquered. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, the good old days when it was you know, bigger clubs up there, and I mean it's coming back. It is nice. Whatever happened to that band? Um, you know in the end, it was just like oil and water, you know, like yeah, when everything settled, you know, we all just kind of went our separate ways. Yeah. The singer I can kind of still remember him. He was like like a wasn't he like a big, like biker dude, very intimidating.

19:15 Yeah he was. Yeah, he was stocky. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I can still picture of the cover too. It was a black and white photo and I think you guys might have been at railroad tracks. We were on the stairs up at the Stimmy Corp of Engineers, damn up in Franklin, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah? Now, after that was mindset X next for you? After that band, I had one more small project that lasted maybe a year, but oh name is familiar. Yeah, there was a CD floating around out the other maybe like a hundred copies in existence.

19:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you still have that email address? Don't you that still email? Now? What about you guys? Obviously you know mindset X has been around for a long time. But have their other projects too along the way or? Uh? Definitely for me? So, like

20:06 I actually was was trying to think about this the other day, So I have I'm up to like about. It's over thirty years I've been playing on the music scene. Yeah, and with my well, I can't say my first band, but the first gigging band was Hollywood East, which was out of Manchester here, okay, and uh it was a hair hair rock, hair metal what I call it. It's a cool name, Hollywood East. It was. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. So I went from that to a a punk jazz band up in Maine called pog Soldier Um and then some variations of other bands.

20:48 I started also recording, uh, the Obe Show, which is an all day experience of music and art and stuff like that wow free form music, so very experimental stuff. And yeah, um and then before Mindset X, before I joined on with them, I also was part of a m It was a instrumental progressive hard rock band. Think about that, yeah, called Dreamline. And so I remember Dreamline really I do? Um? Did I sit? Okay, did you ever?

21:26 Uh? Now, I can't remember the name of the venue. I feel like I saw you. Did you play out a lot with Dreamline? We we actually did a good amount of shows. In fact, we've we actually played with Mindset X as well, because I feel like I saw Dreamline live. I can't remember where though I thought I thought I had it, but I remember Dreamline, Yeah, showdown at Millie's it was Dreamline Mindset X Yeah, oh might have been there. Yeah, it might have been that one. Oh actually late now that you said it, very well might have been I think it's coming back to me.

21:54 Yeah yeah, which could have been Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bob mad Bob. Yeah. But we played Udar in Boston, We played Sommer's Worth. We actually got down into New York City as well with that band. Yeah, so just all all throughout the East coast, yeah, yeah, or the Northeast. I should say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well what about you, Steve. So I started a band's right out of high school or was part of a band anyway called Salem, which was kind of a I guess progressive rock band, I guess, um, and that did pretty well for a while actually, and then Salem kind of this band, a couple members left.

22:33 We started a band called Sage sa Je, which was a little bit out there. Um, but we did. We did again pretty well for a little while. And then um, and then I think you and I met from a Craig this Sad or something right, and then it was I think it was New England Rocks. Yeah, yeah, I do, I do. Yeah, it was you know, bass player and singing guitarist looking for drummer and I was a drummer looking for them. And yeah, we got together and we're like, you know what, let's just start from scratch, new name, songs, knew everything.

23:06 Yeah. So I didn't draw any anything from my past. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, we used to practice. Said that first practice space was the town clerk of Atkinson's house, really Clerk's basement. Linda oh How jammed up in the in Linda's basement

23:25 don't ask we I knew a light guy named Gary who lived in Atkinson, who liked Salem and he was a fan of that Salem Sage stuff my past bands. And then we were looking for a place to practice again and he was friends with the town clerk and she just loved music, right, and she was all about that. Um. And I remember many nights three am trying there was like the scares from Hell. Yeah, I went down there. You'd like have to carry these, you know. Back then everything was gigantic and heavy, right, so like you're trying to do this at three in the morning and you know, um, but great times.

23:59 They We probably still have equipment in those cupboards down there, any um. Yeah. So it's been a quite an interesting ride. And I think the cool thing about, of course Flag Golch is it feels like or kids again, you know what I mean, and definitely all new. Yeah we're not We're not superhold by any means, but I think from a musical perspective, it's fun and exciting to be able to write new stuff with no nothing kind of confining you. And and the fact that the songs just keep flowing, you know, And that's that's from a musicians standpoint and artist standpoint.

24:43 That's you don't want to put a stop on that. So I think we're kind of taking whatever the heavens gives us and running with it here. So, by the way, I've been told in the chat room, Edgewise played with Sage a bunch back in the day. I do remember that. Yeah, I remember that. Yep, ye, So Edgewise, you're twenty six two, right, we're all twenty six here. If you're just joining us. We've got the guys from horse Fly Gulch here in a studio with us. Also, we'll just say hello to everybody in the chat room.

25:13 I did mention Edgewise in there, and oh Steve, I see you're in there. Excellent and Texas Mike. Of course we mentioned earlier, Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont. We have a board seven who is from, of course, Greensboro, North Carolina. These a lot of hashtags there in Greensboro. It's very interesting. Now Jay Fat is in the chat of course, from the Great State of Vermont, and he has a question and he asks this of all the musical guests. He's kind of shopping around, and I think he's running out of time.

25:39 I think he has to have this figured out by September. Do you guys play birthday parties? I think we'll play anywhere as long as no win throws anything shop at us. Okay, so yes, now I must Now he didn't bring up this part yet in the chat room, but I feel a duty to forewarn you about this before you even entertain any such agreement. Uh, he will probably invite you. I don't think this is compulsory if you go there and play necessarily, but he will. I'll probably invite you to join him in an ice bath.

26:09 I don't know how you all feel about that. Personally, I find the idea terrifying, you know, hypothermia, things like that. But apparently it can be very healthy and refreshing. I guess I don't know. Uh, so just sum up for that, I would do it. Yeah, if it's ninety degrees. Oh, after we've done playing covered with sweat, you'll hop in some ice. Yeah. I don't understand any of it, but yes, all right, there you go. These might be your guys, jay fed, These these might be uh, these might be the guys to do that.

26:37 Um, well, we'll write a song called frozen, Yes, I feel like I'm gonna all go home like Han solo. Here you go. Jenny is in the chatwoman says shalom peeps from Reagan Airport in d C. Yes, she's off line back from Washington, DC today. Nice. Hello, very exciting. Yes. Yes, um So, now what's strategy as far as because you kind of told me this off air, but what's the strategy as far as releasing new music with this project? They're coming out one at a time every however often, Yeah, as quick as we can put them together and get them out but have them sound decent.

27:17 So we've been averaging six to eight weeks. Um would like to hit six every time obviously, yeah. Um, but we're just gonna try and keep releasing songs every six weeks and until we don't, you know, is the idea to eventually have enough that because I've seen a lot of artists too this now where they release a single, you know, like every four or six weeks whatever it is, and then eventually those singles at a certain point become an album. Yes, So that's exactly what the plan is. So if you're looking at something, um, particularly like Spotify, right, it's what kind of do with doing the waterfall release method, right, which we released the One that Got Away, which is out for a single, and then we just released Snake Dance, which you played, um and theoretically Snake Dances on an EP.

28:03 Right, So you see, if you go on Spotify, you'll see those two songs, and then you'll see those you'll see three songs. In a couple of weeks, you'll see that song. So eventually all that stuff is going to come to Fruition and be a full length album. UM. At this point, to be honest, we'd like to do a vinyl run too, if possibly a double a double vinyl album because um, as a crazy minds work and the way we've always loved progressive music. Um, these songs actually represent a story, so um, one side is from one person's view of the story and the other side from another person's view.

28:40 So it it it's unique kind of concept that we'll kind of run with and seeing where it goes. So yeah, yeah, UM, any any plans for I mean, there's a lyric video I think right for the One that Got Away? Any any plans for to do a proper like a because it seems like it's easier than ever to make videos. You know, if you got an iPhone and you can, you can do some really amazing things. Yeah, we got Um we actually are in the process of, uh of filming a video. Um what is it high weekend in June something?

29:13 Is it with the release or I think it is? Yeah, all right, well yes, the next song should come with a video, both released on the same day. Cool, it will will come with it will excellent? Are you Are you guys making that yourselves? Are you working with anybody on that? A good friend of mine, Christian Patty, Um, he will be helping us with the production part of it and stuff and be doing most of the editing. Um, he's a you know. He he's a great friend, loves it, takes pictures and wants to take it a step further and has worked with um some video stuff before.

29:53 Uh. So we are looking forward to having a real nice classic you know, whatever, whatever it comes out, there may be snakes snakes like video, you know, is it going to be for snake Dance? No? You know, originally it was and the concept kind of holds true. It was nice and interchangeable. So I think the next song I think we're releasing it is called the long road, and from a single perspective, it's got that thing on it, that thing. We don't know what that thing means, or if we all knew what that thing means, we all be millionaires, right.

30:33 But I think it's from a single perspective, we think it makes sense to kind of put the video behind this particular song. But in the concept for the snake Dance and this, they're actually close to each other in the story. So okay, from a video perspective, it's kind of easy to yeah, that changed. So it's funny. I was having a conversation with somebody recently on the show about music videos and because there are people who I'm sure you guys run into it, there are people who have this idea that, you know, since MTV stop showing videos, I don't know if they show any at all anymore a long time ago, that the music videos are just like a completely dead medium, and it's like there's really if you go on YouTube, there's more.

31:12 I mean, there's there's artists, you know, of course, they're like major artists who have a lot of money. Like if Beyonce, you know it, puts out a new album, you'll get a video for every single song. There's actually more videos than ever. I think I agree with you. I think a lot of people don't even know a song is released unless as a video for it, right, And that goes down when you when you say video now, it's it's reels stories this. You know, let's not even get into TikTok. Right. So I think I think videos are more important than probably even the MTV days at this point, because that's that's all people do.

31:46 We see it every day, right, you go anywhere, people just scrolling through their next thing, right, and that's that's how it is these days. Um, So we've as a band, we even the mindset xt. I think we were never very diligent about making good videos. I mean, we made a couple of goodvideos of Amanda we made too, I think, and I think that's as far as we went. We just went way back. Yeah we did oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Atmosphere had a video. Then we did Sneaked in here and there, So we we got to get on that bandwagon.

32:15 I think, you know, we've learned thirty years later, maybe we should make some more videos. Yeah. No, I think you're right though that now it's more important than ever, you know, because especially now, you make a video and then you can share it everywhere. And I remember being a kid, and uh, I would with the VCR. I would record videos off of MTV, you know, the Beta Max. Yeah, I know, I'm not quite that old, but but I did. But I did do the VHS and uh, I mean I remember Beta Max. I know what it is.

32:45 But it's funny that actually better quality and yet that's the one that died. But um, but yeah, I remember recording videos off of MTV and hoping that you know, my my favorite uh video would come on and I would record it and it was a big deal. And then I'd get really upset, if you know, after a while the tape would wear out, and then it's like, oh, I don't have that video anymore, and that song is not popular anymore. They're never going to show it again. Yeah, you know. Now I'm just screwed, you know.

33:09 And now, in the year twenty twenty three, any any music video I've ever wanted to see, I can just go on YouTube and type it in such a crazy thing like the videos video thing, especially in there's so many variables with that, where like you have to keep in mind like the demographic that you're band is kind of aiming for, right, So obviously, if if you're aiming for eighteen nineteen year olds, it's all TikTok, snapchat and all that stuff, but there is still a group like if you're aiming for you know, forty five year old whatever, fifty year olds, I mean they still buy CDs.

33:38 Oh yeah, So yeah, you're kind of got to find that weird middle ground. You make a small CD run, you're at the same time you're supposed to be on social media daily and all this fun stuff. Oh yeah, and you know, if there's any social media managers out there, please give us a call, yeah, because this is not an easy thing to do, and it's a lot to keep up with, lots to keep up on sillly changing and evolving and um yeah who who does that? Like, you guys all just kind of handle that yourselves, all three of you or right now yeah, right now, we're just doing it ourselves.

34:10 Yeah, I mean, Steve does a majority of it, but I'm doing what I can. Paul and I are doing what I can pitch in you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Um, are there any live performances on YouTube? I didn't. I didn't. There's one. It's got the first three songs from the first show. Oh okay, Um, well yeah it's um. I actually requested so Tom O'Connor's friend there. I did request a copy of it, but I haven't got yet. But there is one that should be floating around YouTube somewhere. Um and funny.

34:43 It has to only as mindset X. We always wanted to write an instrumental and we never did, and then really that surprised. Yeah, I don't know why. We every time we wrote the song, we're like, oh, which is this is right? But then then we wrote the Outlaw and the Outlaw was like, this doesn't need any lyrics. So it's the first instanment that we've ever written as a band. Is actually on this too, and that's actually recorded. It's on that video. So every time I'm watching them like yeah, like I didn't, that's all.

35:11 We have a call. Hi, I'm ADDIE's scary. Hey Gary, how are you doing? We are we are short on time, my friend, So I'll just ask you to be uh be terrists if you would. No, I was just wondering if they would do like maybe MPR's tiny guest concerts. Oh, I can imagine you guys on there absolutely the contact information for that. Yeah, we just actually talked about that last week in one of our little band meetings. UM, so the answer would be we would definitely be exploring that option and if we can, um somehow pulled that off, will definitely promote the heck out of it.

35:43 So oh yeah, yeah, because I've seen a lot of I've seen a lot of the good. They've got a lot of good groups and a lot of good people on there, and and they yeah, they do and they you know, like I just saw a couple of them, and there was this Latin group all girl and uh they had they were playing with a susaphone and uh some some brass and then uh girls, but they were really good. This girl was she played twelve string and she played six strings. It's just really good at it, so very very cool. Yeah, and then they support all the genres too, which is nice.

36:16 Yeah, we'll definitely see who we can do the game. I'm I appreciate that. And yeah, if you guys do videos, maybe you could get Melanie to start on one of your videos. You know, I don't know who Melanie is, but yeah, it's always looking for something like that, you know in Vermont, you know, Oh yeah, cool, yeah, have her send us an email on our websitehust Play gold stock Com. And she's a big actress. Cool. Well, well if you go for the birthday party, it's a big actress. Nice. All right, Well let's go, Maddie.

36:46 I know I talked to one, but I just wanted to put my two cents in on it. Thank you very much, No, thank you, no worries. Gary, We appreciate the call. Yeah, all right, and I love Jenny. Tell Jenny I'm so proud of her. I heard her. I'm so proud of her. So absolutely, we'll do We'll do all right, great, all right, Gary, thanks by all right, bye bye, all right, very nice. That was our friend Gary, and we are we are nearing the end of the show, so before we run out of time, I want to make sure you mentioned, of course, where people should go online.

37:19 Oh question, where does the name come from? By the way, where fly goal back?

37:25 It was very spontaneous, really uh yeah. We were on our bi weekly or weekly little zoom meeting that we do to try and move things forward when we're not physically together practicing or writing. Yeah, and uh, we were just thrown around ideas and one of us blurted it out, like, hey what about this? Yeah, it seemed to stick, you know. And plus, you know, it's hard to find a name nowadays. Everything's taken right, right, you know, you go on that, you can go on these name generators online and stuff and come up with some two or three early words that don't really make sense together.

38:01 Yeah, that kind of made sense. And there's actually a horse fly. Gulch is a place in Idaho or something. Right, it's literally adult, it's like in between two ravines. We knew it would be some sort of Western vibe because that was the stylead music we were writing, right guls. I mean it's not country by any means, but I think it definitely pays homage to a little bit of the rocketbilly folky stuff, right, So we want something to fit that, and originally was going to be the bar Flies, but then, just like seven million of the band, I was gonna say, no matter what's spelling you dude or whatever they did in the bar Fly, that didn't even work.

38:37 All Yeah, right, No, I like, uh horse Fly Gults, it's a good name. It's uh We're pretty happy with its memorable. Yeah, no, it is. It is, all right. So what should people know about? Where to find you guys online? Keep up with what you're doing, go to shows, get your music, all of that. I'm looking at you, Poe, Well you do most of the media I do, all right. So dot com is our official website, and I think Instagram and Facebook definitely in the two social media platforms that we're kind of really into at the moments.

39:09 Instagram will probably the one that you'll find us on the most as we move forward. We do have a band camp and there is a SoundCloud and all that fun stuff, But I think Facebook, Instagram, hosflagos, dot com it's kind of the main places. And obviously at the website, all the links are right up tops YouTube, right yeah, YouTube. The videos are always be up on YouTube. But I'm not sure how much of a creator aspect we're going to be able to play with that because that just takes so much time. And yeah, I don't think we chose that that avenue, but it is on YouTube, Music and it and several other pretty much all the platform, all all the streaming platforms are on So if I could give any love out there, and I could say, if you could do anything for us to help the band out, go on Spotify, give us a like Atta Sea playlists, um, because because that's where the three cents a month rolls.

39:53 And yeah, that's right, that's right, all right, very good, very good. And we'll close out the show with what now? What's is Snake Dance the current single? Or is it that's the newest one. That's the newest one, so well, I played it earlier, but we'll close with it too cool, great great song, thank you, um, I love both of them. But yeah, this is a this is a great track, gentleman, Adam, Steve Paul, thank you all so much. Good to see you and I see this has been wonderful.