Matt Connarton Unleashed 6-9-23

So what do you guys want to talk about? Hello, welcome everybody here we go Happy Friday. It is my favorite day of the week, by the way, although not necessarily for the same reasons that it might be your favorite day of the week. I know a lot of people said Friday is their favorite day of the week. It's my favorite day of the week because it's my long day here at because I get to do this show and then I get to do Retrospectrum Radio with Polyc tonight. So Fridays are a lot of fun here. So it is my favorite day.

So Happy Friday to you. It is Friday, June sixth, twenty twenty three, and we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, although it's about to potentially turn into a very wet downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. We just had a actually, those of you listening live on FM radio might not have even heard part of the beginning of the show because there was an emergency alert because there's some bad weather coming in. By the way, so there's been a trend recently.

I was talking about it the other day where the skies will get very dark. There will be some very dark, threatening looking storm clouds outside, and it looks like it's gonna rain, and then it just stays that way for hours. It looks like it's tatering on the edge of a downpour, and then it never quite comes. But since there's an emergency alert for the weather, I think this one might actually happened. So I'm glad I'm safe and sound in here. There were some pretty dark clouds out there when I arrived at the station today, so we'll see.

So I hope you're hope you're safe and sound where you are. I actually enjoy I really enjoy a good summer thunderstorm. I dig it as long as i'm inside for it. You know what I don't like the one thing I really don't like. Well, for one thing, I don't like getting caught in the rain. I'm like a cat. I don't like to be wet, and I don't like the way wet clothes feel. But I also I don't like driving in it. You know, you ever have that where you're driving along and you're just driving and all of a sudden, the sky just opens up and it starts pouring and you can't see where you're going at all.

That's not fun either, But as long as I'm inside for it, I enjoy it. So we'll see what happens. But if we get suddenly knocked off the air for some reason, that'll be the reason. Although actually that's I don't think that's ever really happened where we've had a storm knock us off. So it is a stormy looking potentially downtown at Manchester and Hampshire. But we are in downtown Manchester here at ninety five point three, also on Comcast ninety seven if you are in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe.

You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etc. Etc. A couple of programming notes, Well, let me tell you what we've got coming up today and also what we don't have coming up. Actually, i'll get the don't part out of the way. We do not have today our normal Friday segment with our friend Eric Pilcher from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. His film review. He did not submit one this week, and I suspect he's doing something, you know, because he wants a shirt.

He keeps putting out that hashtag get Eric a shirt, a T shirt. I think he I think he's doing what I think in Hollywood they call a sick out, where you know you want more money. You're trying to get more money out of the network for your hit television series, so you don't show up for work and you claim that you're sick, but you're actually just holding out for more money. I think he might be doing that, which is weird because I actually don't pay him at all, so I don't know. No, Actually I'm kidding.

I jest, I jest with you. No, he just had a very busy week. He had a lot going on this week, very very hectic, So he asked if he could skip this week, and I said absolutely, because after all, I don't pay you, So there you go. No, no, no, he does have a lot going on, and he did promise the film review will return next Friday. But in lieu of that, we do have something else exciting. Our friend Shane Ballen will be joining us. He's gonna be calling in at the top of the hour. And I also see him in the Facebook live chat.

He said, thank you so very much for playing my new song string Pain Projection, calling in at five pm. Yeah, the song that I opened up with today. That is the title track I believe from Shane's new album. Shane's been with us before on the show. You might recall a number of months ago he was here in studio with us. He brought his guitar, he played live, absolutely fantastic, got a ton of positive feedback on that. Everyone really loved at Shane's amazing. I love his voice. Stude's got a great voice and quite a songwriter as well, and he's got a new producer that he's working with.

We'll talk about all of it. So so I did open with that song, uh, string Pain Projection. And as we are approaching the top of the hour, when we get ready to go to break our top of the hour break, I will play another song another one of these great tracks is Shane sent and Uh. And then when we come back, we'll have him on the phone and we'll we'll chat for a bit, and then of course we'll play another song at the end of the segment. But really looking forward to talking to Shane and getting caught up with him.

And hearing all about the new album and his new partnership with his producer. Who has his producer has been on the show before as well, but I will I won't say anymore because we're going to talk about it all in the five o'clock hour, so that'll be cool. I also played a couple of other things related to today's news. I don't know if you've all been paying attention to the news, but we'll get into that. Kind of a big day, kind of a big deal. So there's there's a lot to do. And of course it is Friday, which means uh well if you're listening live on WM ANDAH.

Immediately following this show is Granted State of Mind hosted by the Great rob as a Veto and poly Stone. And then I am back tonight from eight to eleven pm four Retrospectrum Radio with Police along with DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry and the four of us. We have a great time Friday nights. Uh uh. This week it is another game where Paul is going to play twenty five songs that have something in common and we all have to try to guess what they are. So that's a lot of fun. I enjoy that a lot.

I enjoy that a lot. In the meantime, if you would like to join us, you can six three two five six seven six three two five zero six z seven. The studio line is open. You can text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com. You can interact Endo Pine in the Facebook live chat and we'll say hello everybody in there in a moment. But the best thing to do, of course, so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones, is to give us a call at six zo three two five six z seven six zo three two five zero six zero seven.

Um, we will say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat. Oh one other thing too, about programming notes. If you missed yesterday's show, please go back and check it out. We had we had Fredo, and actually I like saying his full name. It's this fun Alfredo Enrique Benavitis. But but he's better known as Fredo. Everyone knows him as Fredo. And of course Axel Axel Bagley from the band Dank Sinatra and Nate from Dank Sinatra also called in and uh we had a great time yesterday. Uh they got here a bit early, which actually worked out well, and we played a bunch of their new music from their album that's coming up coming out I think the middle of July, but we got a sneak peak, so it was a world radio premiere and it was a lot of fun.

I love those guys and uh so if you missed yesterday's show, please go back and check it out. And they're such a great band and great people as well. So let's see. But we'll say hello to everybody in the chat. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in the chat, by the way, I will remind you not only is Mike one of our co hosts on retro Spectrum Radio with Paul ec he's also a sponsor of WMH ninety five point three FM. Of course Queen City Cabinetry in the historic Sunbeam Mall. You can bring your kitchen to life with Queen City Cabinetry.

So Mike's a great guy and of course an important part of WMNH, both in his co hosting duties on Paul Show, and they've been a sponsor of the station for a few years now. Actually, they quite a few years now that I'm thinking about it. Let's see Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina joins us. Surprise, surprise, Isaac Banks says, good afternoon, hashtag Matt high hashtag Jenny Coffee, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Mike pellapita. How are you doing, sir? I notice that Mike from Queen City, Abnitary did not get a hashtag, unlike Jenny and I. That's interesting, and Mike kind enough to take the time to answer Isaac Banks and say I'm doing well, my friends.

Isaac Banks says ex President Trump Trump cannot win because President Biden is the best man of the job. I actually wish, don't. I don't want either one of them to be president in the next term, to be honest with you, for different reasons. But Isaac Banks also says Trump by Trump hashtag Matt Connerton. Yes, yes, Isaac Banks, bringing the the sophisticated political analysis that we all appreciate. Jenny, of course, is in the chat and says shalom, peeps.

Let's see. Jay fed from the Great State of Vermont joins us and says, good afternoon everyone. Isaac Banks says yesterday hashtag Matt Connerton it was a good inner Rhythm choir concert at Lindley Park Baptist Church in Greensboro, North Carolina. Well, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. Shane Ball and I did mention is in the chat room and we're gonna be talking with him in the five o'clock hour. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry says, Okay, this is related to the emergency alert that went out a few minutes ago.

He put this in the chat. The flood advisory is replaced by a flash flood warning for a portion of southern New Hampshire, including the following areas Hillsboro in Rockingham County. Of course we're in Hillsboro County. Here in Manchester. The threat of flooding continues and a flash flood warning is now in effect. Please refer to that bulletin for more information. I remember a few years ago there was a flash flood. There were parts of Manchester that flooded, and it was like, wow, that doesn't usually happen.

We're pretty fortunate here in New Hampshire. Broadly, we don't have a lot of is rarely flooding here. We don't have landslides or earthquakes or lizards run loose in the city. I don't know anyway, There's there's not much that happens here that's hazardous. We're fortunate that way, and we're year after year we're ranked one of the safest states in the country. Um oh. Isaac Bank says also that I hope he reboots his show. Is Charles Richardson show hashtag Matt Connerton. Yeah, I think Charles is thinking about bringing his show back.

Charmaine Davis Elliott joins us in the Facebook live chat and says, good afternoon everyone. Good afternoon, Charmaine. Uh, let's see and uh Eric, I'm still not sure I'm saying his name correctly, but Eric Nana Rone says good afternoon everyone. Eric did share with us recently, and Eric always feel free to drop the link in the chat. I don't mind at all. Eric has a podcast called the Nano Second Podcast. Nano is a play on his last name, which I will confess, and I apologize. I haven't had a chance to check it out yet this week, but I will.

I definitely will. Um. All right, let me give the number again. And then we'll get into uh kind of a big kind of a big deal the news today six three two five six seven six ZO three two five six Z seven. There was breaking news actually and figures had happened when I was already off the air, although we did have a musical guest, so maybe that worked out for the best. But after I left the air yesterday, news broke that the Trump indictment was that Trump was in fact being indicted in UM in Florida over the documents, the secret documents, and that

news carried over in today. I did play at the top of the show, I, uh, if you missed it, and again some people listening in their cars might not have even heard it because of the emergency alert. But I played some comments that Trump had made back in twenty sixteen regarding Hillary Clinton and the handling of classified material. But uh, but I also I did play the it was a brief, terse statement that Special Prosecutor Special Counsel Jack Smith, uh did uh present today announcing the indictment.

Um. I mean, you know, it was already out but and and actually it had already been unsealed, so it's been unsealed today. Jack Smith made the announcement today and uh, we'll see where it goes from here. Uh. And of course, uh uh I'm I'm I guess I'm not surprised by any of it. Um. But the thing is, uh just we'll get into some details in a moment, but uh, you know, and I'm approaching this the same way, even though not everyone understood how I was approaching it, for lack of a better way of putting it, when when I was talking about the the indictment in New York, um that Trump had to attend where he was effectively arrested.

H for all intents and purposes. But um, you know, I don't know what people expect necessarily, But I if you're a long time listener or even a short term listener, you're probably aware. I'm not myself a big fan of the forty fifth president. Uh never was. I don't imagine I ever will be. But but you know, I'm not. I'm not happy or excited about this either. I mean, this is a terrible thing for the country to go through. What I do not agree with though as as terrible as this is for the country to go through, and you know, it's it's very interesting.

I was raised with the notion, you know, when I was in school growing up, when I first started to learn about history, that the sort of conventional wisdom broadly was that Gerald Ford, President Gerald Ford, had done the right thing in pardoning Richard Nixon to spare the country, not to spare Nixon, but to spare the country of having to go through what they were about to have to go through. What you know, I wasn't I wasn't here yet, I wasn't around, but uh, what the country was about to go through with, Uh, you know, if if Nixon were prosecuted and so Ford pardoned him, and that was that.

And obviously people have debated that, people have analyzed it, and but but the conventional wisdom broadly, oh, hello to a Melanie law Liberty, who joins us in the chat, high Melanie. But the conventional wisdom has always been broadly that it was probably the right thing to do. Again, not not out of any kind of deference or wanting to spare Nixon, but because why put the country through that. Let's just move on. Um. In recent years, and especially now, there are more people again, they're always there.

There have always been people who kind of disagreed with that. But but I think broadly it was accepted. Yeah, it was probably the right thing to do. But now there's more people who are kind of reflecting back on that and saying, no, no, no, no, he probably should not have pardoned Nixon. I am not someone who is going to sit here and tell you, as some people would that I think that there's some sort of you know that Well, let me put it this way. Some people have said that Trump thought he could do whatever he wanted and he'd get away with it because Nixon got away with what he did and so forth.

I don't think that's the case. And I am agnostic at this point on the idea that as to whether or not Ford did the correct thing in pardoning Nixon. But I do believe that no one is above the law and um. But I also I recognize that this is not a good thing for the country to go through. But I do think it is a necessary thing for the country to go through, because you know, obviously, look, you've got that thirty to thirty five percent of the Republican base that is ride or die for Trump no matter what, and and they will they will support him no matter what, and any bad thing that happens to him.

You know, whether he stubs his stow when he gets up in the morning, or he uh gets indicted and uh on thirty thirty eight counts. I think in this federal indictment. Um, no matter what happens to him, Trump tells them, Uh, it's the deep state. It's Uh the Democrats have taken over the FBI. Uh. You know, they're just out to get me and uh and I've done nothing wrong. Uh and uh oh, but it's not that they're out to get me. They're out to get us. All of us. He does is the inclusion thing, and they and they go for it.

And uh. It's it's mind boggling to me, that's for sure. But but I understand that that's the reality of it. Um. Oh, Hello to I DJ Steven the Facebook laugh Chat. Hello, sir, I'll see you this evening for Retrospectrum Radio. UM. I am worried about. I am worried about though, and please don't take this wrong. I'm not saying that this should not go forward. It should go forward. And listen, Trump, regardless of what I or you or anyone else thinks about him, Uh, he ish to be afforded uh by law, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

So you know, I'm not gonna sit here and I'm not gonna sit here and gloat about it, even though I don't like the guy um or anything like that. So if anyone's expecting that, you're not getting that. Last time we talked about Trump being indicted for someone, I got an email from a listener who had said he had to turn off the show because I was gloating. I don't know what show he was listening to. I was pretty somber about it. Actually, maybe it was because of one of the song parodies I played. I don't know, but no, listen, this is this is tough.

This is tough for the country. And I'm worried about that that core base that I was talking about, that thirty to thirty five percent, I'm worried about some of them being sort of activated. I'm worried about the potential for violence. There was one congressman, I think it was Chip Roy, who sounds like he's already calling for violence. Jenny had sent me. I didn't get a chance to watch it, and I don't think I even want to play it on the air because I think it would be too horrifying. But Mark Levin, who works for Fox, I guess he said, you know, he got very angry, which is kind of his brand, and he said on the air, you know this is war where at war.

Now, worry about that kind of thing because I'm worried that there's going to be violence. You know, some of these militia types who you know, Trump is their uh, their their hero, their their leader. Um and uh, they're gonna this is I'm concerned about this, this moment now, this being sort of an activation point for them and uh and for what we'll see. Um. So I'm worried about that and uh, but I'm also but I'm bothered by people who say, well, it's not appropriate to do this because he's a former president, or because or because he's a candidate for office.

See, because obviously you've got, like I said, you've got that thirty to thirty five percent of the Republican Party who is ride or die for Trump. They love him, he can do no wrong. Uh, he is effectively you know, he's he's there. Uh. I don't want to say, well, they just they revere him. He's their hero. I'll just I'll put it that way. And of course. But you've also got some people who say who aren't necessarily in that category. It's not that they're pro Trump, but they're uneasy. They're so uneasy with the idea of indicting and charging and prosecuting someone who is a former president or is a candidate for office, that they'll say, well, because because this person's a candidate, and because there's an election going on, I mean, you know, we haven't even gotten to the first primary for twenty twenty four, but because there's this campaign in motion, that that this is inappropriate and you you should not be doing this while someone is actively running for office.

There's there's a lot of people who seem to feel that way, and that makes me nuts every time I hear it, because every time I hear somebody say that, I'm thinking, do they hear themselves? Because as far as I'm concerned, what they're saying is, if you're a politician, you're above the law, the very thing that so many of us complain about every day. Right every day people talk about, people complain We live in a country where people complain rightly so about politics is dirty and a lot of politicians are very dirty, and they do think they're above the law, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I almost hate to say that because it's such a cliche. But the reason that cliche endures is because it's so true. Right, people complain about how the elite are not held accountable, people who are wealthy are not held accountable. You know, these are these are complaints right about politicians, about the elite, about the wealthy getting away with things and never never being held accountable for anything. These are complaints that are largely universal in the sense that whether you're a liberal or a conservative or a libertarian or whatever, you know, whatever, or a political whatever, whatever you are, whoever you are, you probably at some point or another have thought or said something along those lines.

Is a that is a broad principle concept that most of us can agree on, that there is a lack of accountability. The more money you have, or the more power you have, or both, the more notoriety you have, the more likely you are to escape accountability for your actions. Right. That's a broadly accepted principle in American life, and a source of frustration for most people who think about these things and care about these things. But then when I hear these people say, well, you know, I don't know. I mean, maybe if he wasn't a candidate, if you hadn't announced his candidacy, and he was intent on remaining a private citizen, then it would be appropriate to prosecute him.

But but because he's an active candidate, then you you can't do this. It's you know, you're you're going to interfere with the election. Somehow. That makes me nuts, because every time somebody says that, what they're saying is okay, so if someone chooses to be a politician, they're above the law. We'll give him a pass. And I don't understand that thinking at all. I mean, look, I do understand it in the sense that some people who say that they're only saying it because it's Trump. I get that. I understand the psychology of it, right, Whereas if it were someone that they didn't like in the exact same scenario, they would not be saying that.

They would not be saying that. But it's Trump, and you know, you've got that, You've got that core base of the party that just you know, they you know, if Trump told them the sky was green, they'd walk outside, they'd look up and go, oh, how did I never notice that before it is green. You know. Of course, then you've got the other. If you've got thirty five percent of the party that feels that way, you've got the other. I'm not good at math. Sixty five percent of the party that really has just kind of had enough, right, And polling data shows yeah, I mean I've seen polls that show that, you know, six and ten Republicans really would like to just move on, you know, And and this is not gonna cause those people to you know, that six and ten, that's sixty five percent of the Republican party that has had enough.

They're not gonna budge anymore so than the thirty five percent that believes that, you know, you're all in this together. That sixty five percent isn't gonna budge either. They're not gonna they're not gonna wake up one day and say, oh, he's indicted. Oh maybe the other thirty five percent, maybe they're right, Maybe maybe the FBO, Maybe law enforcement really is controlled by Democrats, even though one knows law enforcement personnel tends to skew conservative. But yeah, maybe everything Trump says it's true, And yeah, maybe we should go join the other thirty five percent.

No, no, no, that's not going to happen. But man, but that's the one thing, though, that drives me nuts, is every time I hear somebody say, well, I don't think I don't think it's appropriate to prosecute Trump right now because he's a candidate. So all you have to do then is run for office, and you just you have impunity. You get to just do whatever you want. So politicians are above the law, is what you're saying. If you're saying that, I mean, I just it astonishes me.

But the other thing about this, though, is so this is not all bad for Trump, And that's the wild thing. That's one of the things that's so mind blowing about this whole thing is using that to thirty five percent of the base that will will follow Trump, you know, like the pied piper anywhere. Trump relies on them to send him money every time anything like this happens. Trump is the only example I can think of. I cannot think of another example in history of a politician who every single bad thing that happens to him, all he has to do is tell his donors, look, look what happened.

Now they're after us. They're not just after me, they're after us send me money and they send money. That's why Trump is always Trump always gets out out ahead of these Where do we learn about these things? Every time something happens, like a new indictment for Trump, where do we hear about it first? Usually with a post on truth social Trump tells us. Why does Trump tell us before it gets to them, even to the media. Why is Trump the first to reveal it? Because got to keep the money coming. Trump knows see.

Trump probably isn't sweating this because he thinks, well, more money, more money for the campaign, right, this is a fantastic The worst it gets for him legally, the more money that will flow in, and the more it ensures that he will be the nominee. I mean, I'm more certain than ever now Trump will be the nominee. But it's such a it's such a weird dynamic. It's I cannot think of another example that even comes close to it in American history. The only thing, and it's it really doesn't even come close.

It's a it's a very different situation. But the only thing I can think even I can think of even remotely similar in some sense is when when Bill Clinton was president and he was impeached. You know, he was not removed, but he was impeached. You know, everyone remembers, or well, you young uns don't, but if you're old enough to remember Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton, who, by the way, people get it wrong. Bill Clinton was not impeached because he because he had the affair with Monica. He was impeached for lyne to a grand jury about it, which is, you know, you cannot commit perjury.

Again, nobody is above the law. So he was impeached over that. But among Democrats, his approval rating actually went up, not down, and he left office with a higher approval rating because it was toward kind of toward the end of his presidency. He ended up with a higher approval rating because he was able to garner sympathy from his supporters because he said, look what they're doing to me, Look what they're doing to us. But also he was able to tie that into maybe it's really not that different, but the potential consequences are very different, but in the ramifications and the crux of the issue.

But he was also able to tie that into what Hillary Clinton had said. Many of you will remember Hillary Clinton's famous line very early in Bill Clinton's presidency where she referred to a vast right wing conspiracy. She was claiming, you know, with the investigations of the Clintons like Whitewater and others that were early in the Clinton presidency, she said, there is a vast right wing conspiracy out to get us. So when Clinton's being impeached for lyne to a grand jury, he said, look, this is part of the vast right wing conspiracy.

Now I don't I don't remember him actually saying those those words and referring back to what Hillary had said at the beginning of his presidency verbatim. I don't think he did, but it was obviously implied, you know, this is part of the vast right wing conspiracy. And his support actually went up, not down among Democrats and probably among independents, certainly not among Republicans. But um, so that's the only thing that I can think of that's even in the same realm. But but no, I mean so, so now I'm more certain now than ever Trump will be the nominee.

But it's a paradox because the more legal problems Trump has, the greater the chance of him being the nominee, and the less chance of him actually winning a second term going back to the White House, because you know, it makes him all this all this stuff, because of the way Trump plays it, and he's very smart about marketing and branding to his base. It makes him a phenomenal nominee. Right,

But I mean, his supporters, his hardcore supporters are more enthusiastic than ever that thirty to thirty five because they believe he's uh, he's being picked on. But it makes him a horrendous general election candidate, you know. I mean, we're talking about about somebody who may very well be accepting the Republican nomination while we're in uh you know. Uh. There's a specific term for it and ankle, uh you know, so they can keep track of you, a bracelet. But it's there's another term for it that law enforcement uses.

I mean, it's it's possible. Um. And the thing is too

even though you have like let's say you have a Republican party that has split

where let's say you've got three and ten. Let's say let's say it's closer to thirty person. Well, no, it'd be it'd be in between. But let's say, let's make it really simple. Let's say you've got three and ten Republicans who are totally committed continue to be completely in love with Trump no matter what. And then you've got seven in ten that would like to move on. Pulling data show six to ten, let's make it seven. So you've got three that are still committed, seven that are saying, no, we got to move on.

We've got a whole slate of other options. And what are there is something like nine or ten or eleven candidates other than Trump now in the race. I mean, you know, and that's you know, I'm just talking about the people that we hear about on a regular basis. The problem is if you're if you're in that seven out of ten and you desperately want somebody else, the reason you're not going to get somebody else is because that three and ten, even though there's more of you, there's more of you. If you're a Republican, there's more of you that want to move on.

Then want to stick with this guy, right. But the problem is those of you who want to move on, you've got too many choices. Some of you are going to say to Santis, some of you are going to say Hayley, some of you are gonna say Christie some of you're gonna say, uh, Hutchinson, you know, you know, you got a whole bunch of you know, some of you are gonna say Steve Laughey. I mentioned him because we've had him on the show. Um, you know. But the thing is, and and there's there's others. But the thing is, it's gonna be a repeat of twenty sixteen.

What happened in twenty sixteen. Now take Iowa out of it, because in twenty sixteen Trump actually lost Iowa. But Iowa is not a reliable predictor of how anything's going to go anyway. I'll due respect to anyone from Iowa, like our friend Eric Pilcher who might be listening, take Iowa out. But um, in New Hampshire, what happened in twenty sixteen, Trump and the polls were correct. Trump won big in New Hampshire. And I remember leading up to the New Hampshire primary, scene polls that showed like Trump like the one candidate who was actually in double digits, and everybody else on the ballot was you know, like one percent two percent.

Trump's at like twenty eight percent or thirty two percent or whatever. And even up to the up to the day of the primary. People, some of my Republican friends who really liked Trump even were very skeptical that it was going to be Trump, And I kept saying, look, you know, you can be skeptical of polls all you want to, but look at this, Come on, there's no way that's wrong. And it turned out it wasn't wrong, and Trump one handily in New Hampshire. But you know where did the rest of that vote go. Did it go to a strong second place finisher?

No, I don't even remember. I don't even remember who came in second, do you? I don't. If anybody in the chat room knows, feel free to type it in. I can't even remember who came in second or third. Kind of didn't matter because whoever it was, they had a very small number. We're looking at the same thing here. So if you've got three in ten who want to stick with Trump, seven out of ten who want to move on, that seven out of ten has a whole bunch of options and they're not all going to pick the same one.

So so I still believe Trump will be the nominee. And I think in terms of getting to the nomination, all of this legal trouble even I mean to any other person, to any other person, what's happening now with these I think thirty eight counts. This would be devastating. This would mean you better resign yourself to wearing an orange jumpsuit in the future. But for Trump, it just makes him stronger as he pursues the nomination. If and this is where the big gamble is for him, if he gets the nomination, which he will,

if he manages to win the presidency, all this goes away if he can run out the clock. So you know, I don't know how. I mean, he's got It's not just what Jack Smith in US today. He's got a lot legally on his plate. But if he can run out the clock, he can. You know, if he does become president again, he can then say, Okay, this all goes away. I'm in charge again. Justice Department, just forget it done. But what if he's already convicted. What would be very interesting to see is if he's already convicted, will he then try to pardon himself if he is elected president?

And that is that is a matter that is open to debate. This would not be the first time people have wondered about that in the case of Trump, can a president actually pardoned himself. It's never been tried, it's never been tested. In theory, it's possible, but it's again it's never been tested, So we don't know. Um. But it's a big gamble for him. It's a big gamble. Um. Something else I wanted to say about this too, is I because obviously, you know, you have the people who say who will say, you know, Trump Trump followers will say, well, what about Biden and his secret documents?

And what about Mike Pence and his secret documents? Well, you know, my position has been all along. I'm pretty angry with anyone who mishandles secret documents. As a taxpayer, as an American, I care about that, and there's there's no excuse for it. But what is markedly different. And by the way, I will just remind people there is another So Jack Smith is a special counsel on the Trump case, there is another special prosecutor with an ongoing investigation into Biden on this I'll just remind you of that.

In the case of Mike Pence, that was closed. I think it was earlier this week, right, was it this week or last No, it was this week. I think right. It was toward the beginning of the week that was closed. They got everything back. He cooperated done, not charging him with anything. With Biden, there is an ongoing investigation, but again, as far as we know, full cooperation. The difference, the big difference with Trump is it's not even so much about what he took. Although, and we might have to hold off until later in the show after Shane's call, we'll we'll circle back to this because we'll have a little bit more time afterward.

But um, what what he did take? It sounds kind of scary, okay, but putting that aside, putting put that aside for a minute, it's it's about the obstruction and that's a big difference. That is an important distinction and Pence both when it became apparent there was an issue cooperated done. Here you go, sorry about that again, No excuse. I don't want anyone to misunderstand. I think I'm just giving them a pass. I'm not. There's no excuse for miss handeling classified information. And in both of their cases, I have questions.

Um, I guess I'll forget about asking any questions about Pence because that matter has already been closed. So whatever questions I had, I'll just forget it. And by the way, Pence, to his credit, has taken full responsibility. He has said he didn't he didn't try to get cute with it and make excuses and obfuscate. No. Pence said, look, this was a mistake. It was an honest mistake. But it's it's it's unacceptable and I take full responsibility for it. It should not have happened, and I take responsibility.

So good on him. I respect that. There's not a lot of things I respect about him. Again, We've talked about that on this show. But but some things I do, and that's one of them. He took full responsibility. But with Trump, it's not so much about what he took, although that is a problem apparently again presumption of innocence, I get it. I'm keeping that in mind. I'm doing my best. But the obstruction part, you know, play and hide the ball with everything. You know, when somebody comes knocking on your door and says, hey, you have something that doesn't belong to you and we'd like it back, and you don't give it back, and instead you enter this protracted negotiation about like imagine, imagine if imagine you're you're a homeowner and one day you realize that you have there's some tools missing out of your garage, and you you see your neighbor using one of your tools and you say, hey, you you took my tools, and they say, oh, sorry, I was just bothering.

I was just bothering. I was just borrowing them, and you weren't around. I didn't think you'd mind, you know. And then you maybe you even think back, oh, yeah, I did tell him once if he needed anything, he could have it. That's true. And then uh, your neighbor says, well, I'll get him right back to you, you know. And then a couple of weeks go by and you don't get them back. A couple more weeks go by, you don't get them back. So then you go and you knock on his door and you say, hey, I really need my tools, and your neighbors like, well, let's uh, let's negotiate on this.

I'm not just gonna give you back your tools. Um let's uh, you know, but here, let's maybe I can give back some of them, or maybe we can work something out. Or you'd be kind of like, what what are you doing? You don't get to negotiate with my tools. They're my tools, those aren't yours. And then and then maybe your neighbor's wife comes out and uh says, well, you know, I'm pretty sure he already gave back all of your tools. And you're like, what, No, No, he didn't. He sells my tools. I want my tools.

And your wife says, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm a lawyer, I'm gonna d drop a sworn affidavit claiming that I saw him give you your tools back. You know. Anyway, the point being, obstruction is a problem. And I'm not an attorney, I'm not a legal expert of any kind, but obstruction is illegal. Well, you know, when you're moving evidence around, when you're trying to hide evidence. Uh, that's you know again, it's it's that's why. There's an old saying and I don't know if this existed before Watergate or not, but there's a there's an expression it's it's not the crime, it's the cover up.

It's the cover up. So trying to obstruct justice is what will really get you. And um,

it sounds like that's that. Well, that's what he's part of what he's charged with. And this other guy whose name escapes me, who may have helped him do it. Conspiracy to obstruct justice? Um, and uh it's it's uh, well, we'll look at it again later in the show. We'll we'll circle back to it and we'll look at that that part in a little more detail. But um, one other thing though, before we leave the subject for now, because we're gonna get to a break and then we're going to play another one of Shane Balen's new songs and then we'll we'll talk to him.

He's going to call in. Looking forward to that. But one other thing about this. When Trump has responded publicly to all of this, what have we heard him say over and over and by the way, I'm sure as lawyers wish that he would just shut up, but he can't help himself. Trump exists in a consistent state of self immolation. Anyway. I've never in my life seen an example of someone who creates their own problems like him. I think even some of his supporters would possibly agree with that. But Trump has said many times he goes had looked those were minded to take.

If I wanted to, I could do anything I want. I was a president, I could even declassify them telepathically, just thinking about it with my mind. The they're declassified. There you go. So he talks about that a lot. He talks about how he had the right to declassify them. What has he not addressed? What is one thing that he has never addressed that I didn't even hear Caitlin Collins ask him during that town hall, and I don't know why, or maybe she did. But what if I never heard him explain? What if none of us ever heard him explain why he took them?

He's never explained why. He will explain kicking and screaming they're mind to take. I had every right to take them on lim limit. Dude, Why though? Why? And I, as a taxpayer, but more importantly, as an American citizen, I would like to know and I deserve to know why. And I can only think of two reasons. Reason Number one, he took them to impress people, so he could say, I have secret documents. Oh look at this, or don't look at this. I can't actually show it to you, but I have. I have classified information from when I was president.

The other option is I almost don't even want to say it out loud, and I hope with every cell of my being this is not true. But the other option is

probably fetch a lot of money from an unfriendly government for some of that information.

I'm not saying. Before anybody freaks out at me, I'm not saying I think that's what it was. In fact, if I were a betting man, I would probably go with the first option. I will. I will give him that much benefit of the doubt for now. But I not once, not once, have I heard him explain why. And I know why. He doesn't explain why, because in his mind, he doesn't owe us an explanation because he was president and he could do whatever he wanted, So he doesn't owe us an explanation. And you know, if you happen to be maga, you agree with Yeah, of course he doesn't know us an explanation.

He's Donald Trump. Well, I'm an American taxpayer. I want an explanation, and I am out an explanation, and so are all of you, whether you want to hear the explanation or not. And for those of you who don't think you need an explanation, or don't care or don't want an explanation, pull your heads out of wherever they're stuck because you deserve an explanation. We all deserve. Every American in this country, whether they want to hear it or not, deserves an explanation on that one question, and we better get it why.

We all deserve to know why. All Right, on that note, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna show love to our amazing sponsors, and then when we come back, we're gonna plays another one of Shane Balin's great songs and he'll be calling in. So as soon as the song is over, hopefully he'll be on the phone with us and we'll get to talking with him. Definitely want to learn all about the new album and new producer he's working with, all of it. So Shane is a very very talented gentleman. So I'm really looking forward to that.

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They serve all your business needs including employee benefits, planning, corporate design and business administration, investments and wealth management and customize business insurance solutions. Their phone number is eight six six eight four one forty six hundred, or on the web at CGI Business Solutions dot com. I can still smell to back home. When I climbed to sign, my dad struck three on the tree on at his knee. He told me I had to driver down. And the older lucky strikes in those spies are two smells stacking hit my heart now that I'm o them amazing that owen dog struck her worth more than the money that youd gone back found alone down on my love crying now I keep it truck, I to my day, unroony child around he didn't know where to take daddy's girl.

I was his word and blone he gave me.

I didn't came right. I just found it, didn't broke up and me free memories and his own dud truer worth more money that you're ever gonna be. The flowers he so down on my love ground. Now I can't get the truck I didn't know to my day as I take that gun brack down in my brain for turn scream that review indo now very clear, Please fix her up, don John to kill I'm raising it a stroker money that you don't take me down. Well, that is beautiful. That is Daddy's struck here on Matt Connerton Unleashed by the great Shane Balin and I believe he is on the phone.

Shane. Are you there? Oh Shane, did we lose you? Uh? We lost him? Shane, call us back

if you're listening. Uh, let's see I'm messaging him. Try calling again. I don't know what happened. Oh, there we go. Yeah, this is him, Shane. Is that you? That's me? Oh? Hey, there we go. How you doing? Man? Sorry about that? How are you how? How are you so excited to be on Unleashed? Yeah? Yeah, good to have you back. Of course I was saying earlier in the show, how last time you were here you were in studio with us, playing your guitar and just sounding great, and uh it's great to hear. These are all so everything that you sent us.

These are from the brand new album String Pain Projection. That's right, that's right man. Yeah, I'm so excited. You know. I was working with my new producer, a good friend of mine and mister Goodbarston te Thorpe over at the Toy Box Studios in nash, New Hampshire. He's you know the best in right now. We got worked on this for a couple of weeks. You just finished it last night. I sent that over to you right away before I could even get you the first to have I haven't got anything on Spotify or anything like that.

Oh wow, but um, but I'll play there on the twenty first. You know, I'm excited to play those songs. And you know, the uh the string Pain Projection was the title of that because I just meant a lot to me, I thought, you know, because the music itself and a lot of my songs, you know, especially on this album is here. It's about the pains of life kind of you know, we all everybody, every single person experiences and it's the way the music you can turn sadness and pain into healing is amazing. You know.

I've done that. I played in hospitals and stuff like that. Recently, I was at a wedding got to play for I spoke about the last time young lady m who was you know, sick, and played for her and I got a chance to actually play it at her wedding recently at the Old Salt and it was so much fun to see and gratulations. Wow. But yeah, and um, so it's you know, it's just takes it. It's a pain filter through the strings, I think, um, and uh, you know, and then you project that as healing into people, and you know that's a lot with a new album.

I was kind of I already have another album. I want to I want to run. You know, it's all written. I just got to get into the studio again in a little while and do it because I just got a lot of songs. I've been busy writing, uh since I was in there last time. And you know, I'm really working with some sulfedial frequencies and different healing type. Music is going to be the focus of that one. Uh you know. But but yeah, so I didn't really enjoyed working with mister Goodbars. He's probably gonna call in on the twenty first two.

I talk a little bit, uh, And we had a remix we made. It's absolutely awesome. Yeah, I love it, and he puts a big eight oh eights in there, and it's you know, got you know, emerging country hip hop feel to it. Uh, And I got a little hook on it, and it's just I think it's great. Yeah, Yeah, it's really good. I will I'll play that later in the show, perhaps at the end of the segment. In fact, yeah, it is. It is very good, very good. Yeah, Now how did you so, how did you get to work in with him? How did how did that come about?

Yeah? I met him up at playing music up in Lebanon of a Charlie Solls. He's been was in Sepsis, you know, and I went to the music awards to follow him and followed them and I went down there with a friend of mine and we got a chance to talk and he just came up and he asked me who was producing any of my stuff? And I got a chance to meet him and took my number, and the rest of history is great. Um. It was just a perfect person um and you know, to meet that at the right time, I was just, uh, I'm so thankful for it.

So um much props to mister Goodbars. But m jadd you know just that the Daddy's truck. Hearing that PLI played, I was just so amazing because, as I said, I worked with another one of my friends and artist Jeanine. He passed away, and she always said that was a collaboration with us, and she wanted to get that on the radio. She said this is going to be on the radio one day, and to hear it playing on the radio was just, oh, I still got goose bumps. Oh that's cool, that's cool. Yeah right, I remember you talking about her at last time that you were here with us, and now yeah, and just to clarify, so does mister Goodbars he produces the whole album.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he produced the whole album. And then um the song, Um Charlie, he took um in my my guitar and my music in there, it took out and put in his lyrics, and I got the did the hook on the end, and yeah, let's put that and he put and we have that nice crackling fire which we came up with us last night and we put into the string paining projection because that's where you know, we wrote the song front of that fire, and and it's just it's one of those moments of my squads perfect. Yeah, no, it's it's a it's a cool effect.

It almost sounds like, um, it could be crackling fire or even the sound of a Vinyl record, you know rain yeah that too, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh vinyl exactly. I thought it was sounding like Vinyl too. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I won't say I to my dad in Florida, all my kids, you know, and my dad, uh he's down floor, right dad. You very nice, very nice. Yeah. So I'm gonna have I'll be you know, playing around. I'm trying to get some different gigs. I'll be playing out and I like to go out in Hampton and do some student performing too, so used to play some.

I got my next CDs now, so I'll have some new songs out there and just trying to you know, getting out now, focused to get back in the studio again. Yeah. Now, so is uh so the new album? Is it a full album or is it an EP? Well, it's it's five five tracks, okay, okay, so it's an EP. Yeah yeah yeah and so yeah, and there's so much I wanted to do. I kind of wanted to put about like three or four more songs, but then again, I want to just work on the ones we had a little bit more. So yeah. Yeah, the show's coming up.

So I promised you i'd have it ready, right right. So, now, so the album itself isn't out yet, correct, right? All right? I just the last night about eleven thirty so um yeah, oh yeah, process right now, getting it all um to uh you know, register with the songs on Billboard and um, get this different CDs and get everything out onto all the music out with Yeah. So maybe by tomorrow or together. Oh very cool. Yeah, it's a lot of work. It's it's it's more than people realize. There's there's more than people.

Yeah, it goes into it again. I really appreciate uh, you know, playing my music and uh it's a great dream come true. Thanks thanks so much. Oh absolutely absolutely, uh Shane, and anything you want us to know about shows that you have coming up you you know you mentioned Hampton, uh any anything else? And also too, I want to make sure our listeners nowhere to find you online too. Sure, yeah you can always you can always find me. I like to post all my music. I do live streams and post a bunch of music all the time on my Facebook page Shane down and you know, so you can you can find me also uh in sah N E B A L O N and U. Uh yeah, I'm gonna be probably playing I think at the Governess Lodge July with a good friend Brian Munger Um and um, you know there's some upcoming shows over at Charlie Hill.

Much love to Charlie Hill, love you guys up in, loving in and uh and everything else. You know. I'm just trying to work up and really focusing on trying to get the actual music in the studio over the last couple of months. Yeah, yeah, well, uh, this it sounds great. Love what you're doing. And uh, well we'll we'll let you go in a moment, we'll play that that remix of Charlie which is was just so good. Yeah, all right, that sounds wonderful. And then but we'll see So we'll see you in studio on the twenty first.

And you're gonna bring your your guitar, I hope. Oh yeah, I'm gonna bring my guitar. And I got a new guitar too. We're gonna bring guitars. Excellent, excellent, all right, No, we look forward to that. I got a ton of positive response on your previous appearance with us in studio, so really looking forward to that, Shane. That means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I'm gonna keep working hard and I'll be ready for the twenty first. All right, sounds great, all right, Shane, we'll let you go and I'm gonna and then I'm gonna hit this track.

But thank you so much, my friend, and we'll see you soon. Well, we'll see in a couple of weeks. That sounds good. Thank you, Matt. All right, man, you got it. Take care all right, all right? Throbabye, Oh wonderful. All right. So that was the great Shane Balin. And yes, he'll be here with us in studio on the twenty first. But in the meantime, let's listen to this. So this is the track that he was talking about. This is um Charlie. Jeez. You know what I might do? Maybe I'll should I play them both?

You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna what the hell, I'm gonna play both. So there's there's two versions of the song. Um. There's there's uh the song Charlie, the original, and then there's the remix that mister Goodbars is on. I'm gonna play on both. I'll play the original and then i'll play because they're not very long, your short songs anyway, when I top playing both, this will be interesting. So I'll play Charlie and then I'll play the Charlie remix with mister Goodbars and uh, that'll be that'll be interesting and then we'll we'll come back with the rest of our show.

So here it is. This is uh, this is Charlie from the Great Shane Ballen. Here a world radio premiere on Matt Connerton Unleashed. Check it out.

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We are live from the studios of w m n H three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester, and Hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact and folk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. It is Friday, June nine, two thousand and twenty three. By the way, thank you again so much to our friend Shane Balen for joining us today, for calling in, and we've been featuring some of his music today the world radio premiere of tracks from his new album String Pain Projection.

And he's going to be here in studio with us on the twenty first. He'll bring his guitar or guitars. It sounds like he's got a new one and looking forward to that. And he might have mister Goodbars with him. We'll see, so that'll be that'll be fun. He's guys, got a great voice, great voice. I love hearing him saying so. Thank you again, Shane. And it is Friday, which means tonight, of course, if you are listening live on Friday. Immediately following this program, we have granted State of Mind. I stood by the Great Rob as a Veto and Pauli Stone and then tonight I am back from eight to eleven PM for Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C. I have the honor and privilege of being one of Paul's co hosts on that show along with our friend CJ, Steve and Mike for I'm Queen City Cabinetry.

So that will be tonight from a to eleven PM. And this week the theme is twenty five Songs. Paul's got twenty five songs lined up and it's a it's another it's this game where we have to try to figure out what do these songs all have in common? There is a theme of some sort, There is a commonality, if you will, a through line, a common thread with all of these songs. And last one we did, I was able to figure it out pretty quick. But we'll see how I do tonight. So so that will be tonight from eight to eleven pm.

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By the way, I see our friend Rocky Huber joins us in the Facebook live chat. I know, with Rocky's work schedule, he doesn't get to join us live as often as he used to, but he's in there. He says, hope everyone is doing well, Hello Rocky. I did see another new name in the Facebook live chat too, Matthew. Is that Casecus or Kasakas or Katsakas. Sorry if I'm butchering your last name is. I'm quite sure that I am. But Matthew says definitely more options and will likely never know the truth fact, And that was referring to what I was talking about earlier in the first hour about I've never heard Trump explain why he's never offered us an explanation of why he has those documents.

He's he's, uh, you know, talk about how he has a right to take them and this and that, but he's never explained why. Let's see, let's look at So this is uh, this is from the Hill dot com. Five major revelations from Trump's federal indictment. So this is uh, let's look at this, and this will get people caught up to who aren't clear on what's happened, you know in Jack Smith, special prosecutor, Special counsel Jack Smith did come out today and made a short statement that I played at the top of the show today.

But so again, this is from the Hill. The Justice Department today unveiled unveiled a thirty seven count. Oh I misspoke earlier, I said thirty eight. It's only thirty seven. Only unveiled a thirty seven count indictment against former President Trump over his handling of classified materials after leaving the White House, offering up an expansive look at the evidence prosecutors collected. Oh, actually, we have a call. Oh we did have a call. Looked like Jenny was calling in Jenny callback. I tried to pick it up, but it says.

The forty nine page document provides significant insight into the nature of the classified documents Trump had kept since leaving the White House in January twenty twenty one, allegations about Trump's moves to obstruct attempts to retrieve the documents, in detail about instances where Trump is said to have openly shared sensitive government secrets. All right, Jenny is back. Hello, Hey, Hey, I have my e speri as to why Trump did it? Okay, Well, one word answer, yes, ego. It's ego. He likes to show off, he likes to have trophies, he likes to you know, look what I can do.

It's his ego that has led him down this road. I don't think there was something to fire us about it. I mean, at least I hope not. But I really feel like he ended up on this road just because his ego could be going to show off. Yeah, it could be. I hope that's all it is. I do too, because the alternative is really freaking scary, especially when you look at what he had nuclear secrets and right, yeah, that's what I have. I think it's his ego that let him down this road and it's going to land him to a and so well, I don't know.

We'll see. I'll believe it when I see it, but we'll see what happens, all right, Jenny, thank you, bye bye. Yeah. You know, we were talking earlier in the first hour about you know, different different theories about why he might have done this. But again, he never he never offered an explanation. But it may it may be that simple. It may in fact be that simple, and that would comport with Trump's personality. Um, let's see. So here's um. Here are the five biggest revelations from the indictment.

We'll go through these. Oh. Hello to Easybeat Flash in the Facebook live chat. This is somebody new, easybeat Flash says, although not from a new place. Hello there, hashtag Matt. We say to you from us. We are a pop singing group man band of Easybeat Flash. We are from Greensboro, North Carolina. We are friends with Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North Carolina. I suspect it as much. And Easybeat Flash says, and this is the important thing. We love your afternoon show hashtag Matt Connerton. We said, well, I love compliments.

Easybeat Flash, thank you, all right. So it says here again, this is the first revelation Trump had documents with nuclear and military secrets. It says the indictment offers the most specific assessment of the kinds of documents Trump had in his possession, and prosecutors alleged that among them were sensitive materials related to the United States nuclear program. The filing states, So this is from the actual indictment quote. The classified documents Trump stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries, United States nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack, and plans for possible retaliation and response to a foreign attacked attack.

The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents could put at risk the national scurity of the United States foreign relations, the safety of the United States military and human sources and the continued viability of sensitive intelligence collection methods unquote. That's from the filing. The filing also cites to December twenty twenty one incident where trump aide Walt Nada, who, by the way, has also been indicted today, who is also says here who has also charged in the indictment, finds documents spilled on the floor of a Mara Lago storage room.

The documents were labeled secret and only releasable to members of the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance of the US, Australia, the UK, Canada, and New Zealand. Well apparently, also they could be seen by anyone who happened to stumble into that storage unit. Apparently, let's see revelation number two. Trump pushed lawyers to help cover up and by the way, this is something we've heard about, like the attorney who you know, signed that affidavit saying, oh, yeah, yeah, you've got it. You've got all the documents.

Were good, you got everything, Now go away. We gave you everything. Turned out not to be true. Oops. Anyway, it says here. The indictment details multiple incidents in which Trump pressured his lawyers to withhold documents from the government, including asking them to tell authorities he did not have them. Yeah, just tell him you haven't seen them. In another instance, he suggested his attorney quote hide or destroy unquote the documents that were being sought by a May eleven subpoena seeking the return of all classified records.

The filing also relies on notes obtained from Trump attorney Evan Corkran, who had attorney client privileges pierced in connection with the probe after a judge determined that he may have been misled by Trump. Yeah, there's ways you know, and about that for anyone who's not clear on this. You have attorney client privilege, of course, where anything if you're an attorney, anything you and your client discuss is is privileged between the two of you, unless there's something called the crime fraud exception, which means that you and your attorney you cannot conspire together to commit a crime or or obstruction of justice.

For example. That's why if you say you you've done something and your attorney who represents you, well, you would never want to say to your attorney, just not that I know from personal experience, I'm I always say I'm so clean, I'm boring. I've never uh, you know, I don't even spit on the sidewalk, as I like to say. But but if you are accused of something, and you have an attorney, and you actually did do the thing that you're accused of, you don't want to tell your attorney, by the way, I actually did do this.

But you know, we're gonna we're going to try to make a jury think that I didn't write. You know, you would never want to say anything like that because now your attorney knows that you're guilty. And now now you've got a problem because now you know that that might now you're you and your your attorney are effectively colluding in a way to uh to get one over on the court. It's um, I know the You know again, I'm not a legal expert of any kind, so I'm probably not explaining it exactly right. But that's my understanding of it.

You and your attorney cannot conspire to obstruct justice or or commit any kind of fraud, because if you do, that is no longer privileged. The court then regards the client the attorney client privilege as being having been pierced, and it is null in that case. Okay, so that's that's what happened here with Evan Corkran. Corkran notes that made a plucking motion. When Corkran was preparing to turn over thirty eight documents in response to the subpoena, Corkran wrote, quote, he made a funny motion as though, well, okay, why don't you make them with you?

Oh I'm sorry, why don't you take them with you to your hotel room and if there's anything really bad in there, like, you know, pluck it out. And that was the motion he made. He didn't say that unt. The incident details how NADA moved sixty four boxes of documents between a conversation about complying with the subpoena and the attorney's Drew June trip to sort out the records. Third takeaway from the indictment or revelation Trump showed sensitive documents to others at least twice. The filing details two specific instances where Trump is alleged to have shared highly sensitive materials with individuals at is Bedminster, New Jersey club who did not have security clearances.

The first came in July twenty twenty one, when Trump is said to have shown and described a plan of attack prepared for him by Pentagon officials while in the White House. The meeting, which was with a writer, publisher, and two staff members, was recorded. None of the other individuals present had security clearances. The indictment contains a transcript of the conversation between Trump and a staffer in which he describes the document as secret information. Trump tells the staffer, quote, see, as President, I could have declassified it.

Now I can't you know, but this is still a secret unquote. The staffer responds with a laugh. Yeah, Now we have a problem, unte sure do. The filing also details a second incident in August or September of twenty twenty one, in which Trump showed a representative of his Political Action Committee who did not possess a security clearance a classified map related to a military operation. Trump is said to have told the associate during the meeting at Bedminster Club that he should not be showing it to the person and that they should not get too close.

Fourth takeaway documents were stored across Mara Lago.

The indictment states that Trump stored the documents in various locations at mar Lago following the end of his presidency and moved on multiple occasions. Some of the boxes containing documents that Trump had taken were initially stored at the property's gold and White ballroom, where major events often happened between January and March fifteen of twenty twenty one. At one point, the boxes were stacked on the ballrooms stage.

Just imagine a band playing up there. Somebody, you know, guitar player is really getting into it and he bumps into a stack of boxes and secrets spill everywhere. Nata and other Trump staff members then moved the boxes to the business center. A text conversation between two Trump employees dude, okay, listen, hang out a second. If you're doing something bad, don't text about it. Amateurs, amateurs. A text conversation between two Trump employees included in the court documents reveals that one employee said Trump specifically asks them to be moved to the business center because they were his papers.

Some boxes were transported from the business center, which some staff wanted to use as an office, to a bathroom and shower in the properties lake room gets better and better, it doesn't it. The indictment states that Trump had a storage room on the ground floor cleaned out in May twenty twenty one, so it could store the boxes. The boxes in the lake room were taken there the next month. Prosecutors noted that the hallway leading a storage room could be reached quote from multiple outside entrances.

The mar Lago Club was not an authorized location for the storage, possession, review, display, or discussion of classified documents. Nevertheless, Trump stored his boxes containing classified documents in various locations at the Marlago Club, including in a ballroom, a bathroom and shower, and office spaces, bedroom, and a storage room. Unt The indictment states, if we just spread them around everywhere, the FBI will never find them all. The filing says that during the August search of Mara Lago, authorities seized twenty seven classified documents from Trump's office and seventy five classified documents from the storage room.

Of those one hundred two documents, seventeen were labeled top secret. In the fifth revelation here,

Trump was told he was a target of investigation on May nineteen, ah Yes, Outside of the indictment itself, new court filings reveal a timeline of the final days of Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation. The special counsel's office informed Trump that he was a target in the Grand Jury's investigation on May nineteen, roughly three weeks before jurors voted to indict him. Nada was similarly informed he was a target on May twenty four, according to the documents, just ahead of the indictment.

Trump declined to respond directly when asked by The New York Times if he had been identified as a target. The Grand Jury returned the indictment yesterday. The prosecutor earlier today requested it to be unsealed. Trump and Nada were set to make their first of court appearance on Tuesday at three pm Eastern in the Wilkie D. Ferguson Building in Miami. Yeah. Apparently, so, from what I understand, when you're a so Trump would have received what's called a target letter, which is where they inform you that you are a target in the investigation.

You're not simply being treated as a witness, but you are a target. And once you get a target letter, that typically means an indictment is imminent. So it's kind of a heads up, get ready, because yes, we are about to indicte you. So there you go. By the way, here in Manchester that once again, the storm seems to have missed us. Now the sun's out. It's beautiful outside. Actually, if you'd like to get in with a call six three two five six six three two five six seven, the studio line is open. Uh.

Let's see. So those were the five major takeaways according to The Hill dot com. Um Mike Pence, Uh, let's see what he had to say. This is from Media I. Mike Pence says unsealed Trump criminal indictment deeply troubling and no one is above the law. So, as one would expect from the former vice president, what we're about to get here is a very mixed message and it doesn't quite follow logically. But he continues to walk that tight rope uh uh, that he seemed to be ready to almost stop doing during his announcement of his candidacy.

But no, he's back on the type rope on a tight rope. On on the one hand, he uh, well, you'll see what I mean it says here again, this is from media I dot com, speaking of reporters in New Hampshire today. Apparently Mike Pence is in the state. Presidential candidate Mike Pence called the federal criminal indictment against Trump deeply troubling. The former vice president and his comments today criticized the Department of Justice for bringing the indictment against Trump, but then went on to argue that quote, no one is above the law unquote.

See,

I mean he really it's it's this weird sort of like he takes he takes the concept of what a boutism and morphs it into this whole new thing.

Here's what he had to say, quote, I think it is deeply troubling to see an indictment against the former president of the United States, agreed. I had hoped the Department of Justice would see its way clear to solve this without an indictment, and said so earlier this week. An indictment against the former president is going to be extraordinarily divisive at a very challenge time for American families, and I also believe it sends a terrible message to the wider world. Now let's stop on that for a moment.

If the Department of Justice has a case, they know they have a case, they don't bring an indictment unless they're confident that they have a case. If don't, you think it would be awfully divisive also, I mean, this is divisive, of course, But wouldn't it also be divisive for the Department of Justice to just say, yeah, yeah, now we're good, We're not going to pursue this. That would be divisive. That would make a lot of people angry. He says, it sends a terrible message to the wider world. Well, what kind of a message would it send to the wider world if if the Department of Justice said, well, yeah, you know, this is what happened.

But as a former president, he's currently a candidate, so we're just gonna we're just gonna forget it. What kind of a message would that send? Now, the next part of what Trump says, he also says, quote that being said, let me be clear on a few points. No one is above the law in America. We have to stand on the rule of law, irrespective of politics. Agreed. Okay. Secondly, the handling of classified materials is a very serious matter in the station, my years as Vice president, my years serving on the International Relations Committee in the House of Representatives, it's important that we protect our nation's secrets.

Agreed. Then he says, quote it's one of the reasons why during the multiple see this is what. This is a game he's going to play. So he's going to try to turn this around on Biden, which is problematic for a couple of reasons. But this is what he says next. He says, quote, it's one of the reasons why during the multiple disclosures at President Biden's home of classified materials that he had maintained as vice president and as president, that we thought it was appropriate to have our records examined, and we found that there was a small number of classified materials that had been stored inadvertently with our materials as well unquote.

So he tries to sneak in a knock on Biden. Actually, that's fine, but you know, and he did take responsibility for the documents that he had, which is good. Then he says that his team quote fully cooperated with the FBI's investigation unquote, and that he takes full responsibility for it. He continued, quote, I'm pleased that last week the Department of Justice ruled that it was an innocent mistake. But let me be clear, it was an innocent mistake, and the nation's secrets are absolutely vital to securing the country in the days ahead unquote.

So but the contradiction here is obvious. Right. He spends uh several sentences talking about how well, this is divisive. This is divisive, so you know, you can't you can't pursue that. The Department of Justice shouldn't be pursuing this. It's too divisive. It's going to upset people. And then he goes on to say, but there's no one is above the law. Well, which is it, dude? You can't have both. You can't say, well, you know people are gonna be mad, so they probably shouldn't pursue this. But no one is above the law.

No, you, Mike Pence, and every single person who tries to play this game of well, you know, he is a former president and he is currently a candidate, so probably shouldn't be indicting him for anything. You literally are saying that he is above the law. You are saying politicians are above the law. It's like when I saw him, I think it was on Hannity. This was like maybe a month ago, Mike Pence. He goes on Hannity, Right, he pulls out this line, and I guess that show as a studio audience now because people were applauding when he said this.

He's talking about how he thinks that Trump is being treated so and fairly by the criminal justice system. And then he has this applause line, right, And you can tell he knows it's an applause line because he says it a little more forcefully, you know, with about as much force and passion as an empty husk like Mike Pence is able to muster. He says Americans are tired of a two tiered criminal justice system, and then everyone in the studio applauds. I don't know if these people even knew what they were applauding for, because usually when somebody says something like that, yeah, actually, he's right, there are a lot of Americans who are tired of a two tiered criminal justice system.

The thing is, when most people talk about having a two tiered criminal justice system that they're tired of. What they talk about is they're tired of the elite, the powerful, the wealthy always finding ways, partly because they have the power and the connections and the wealth to find ways to escape accountability and get away with whatever they want. And then there's the rest of us who are held accountable. Right, That's what most people mean when they say a two tiered criminal justice system. People of means people of power, people of influence, people with wealth.

They're not held to the same standard as the rest of us, partly because they can buy their way out. And I don't mean with bribes. I just mean, you know, if you're a wealthy person and you get in trouble, you have the money to hire a great lawyer who's gonna help you through it. Right, if you're a poor person and you get into trouble, can't afford a lawyer, might get stuck with a public defender. No disrespect to public defenders. They're important and they respect them, but they tend to be overworked, overwhelmed.

They can only do so much, you know. And that's that's what people mean when they talk about a two tiered criminal justice system. But then here's Mike Pence on Hannity's saying Americans are tired of a two tiered criminal justice system, and then everybody in the audience goes, yeah, they're applauding, like yeah, that's right. It's like, what do people even know what you're applauding for,

Because the way Mike Pets is saying it, it sounds like he's saying. Sounds like he's saying, in that moment, Americans are tired of a standard of one standard of justice for President Trump and another standard of justice for everyone else. Sounded like that's what he was saying, and I guess that was what he was saying. And then these people applaud and it's like, none of you even understand what you're applauding for. It's so weird. It's weird watching him try to balance this, and it's fairly sad and pathetic.

Frankly. Uh, let's see, we are rapidly running out of time on today's program, and I'm probably gonna end with one more Shane ballantrack. Will probably play the one that I opened with today, opened the show with Today. We'll finish out with that one too, the title track from the album String Pain, Protect Projection. I keep wanting to say Protection, it's Projection. So we'll we'll wrap up with that. But hey, it is Friday, so don't forget immediately following the show if you're listening live on Friday, we have granted State of Mind, hosted by Rob as a Veto and Pauli Stone.

I don't know who the guest is on their show this week, but they always have a great show there, it's just in the summer months. They record the show out at Pembroke City Limits and it's really good, really good stuff. And then of course I will be back live tonight from eight to eleven pm for retro Spectrum Radio with PAULC along with DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. And this week the theme of the show is We've got twenty five songs and we all have to try to figure out what the what the theme is among those twenty five songs.

What do these twenty five songs have in common? So that will be tonight from eight to eleven pm on Retrospectrum Radio. And don't forget tomorrow night. At Tomorrow Night at the Hop not Chad Verbeck will be playing live from I believe seven to nine pm, so they've got live music. And hey, if you're in Manchester, get outside and enjoy the weather. It looks like it's really nice now. It looked like it. We even got an alert that there were going to be these terrible storms, but now it looks like it's right back to being a beautiful day.

So it's it's been good weather. It's been good weather, all right. If you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at WMH radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot com. And I will leave you with one more track from the great Shane bal And. Thank you again to Shane for joining us earlier. And this is the title track from his upcoming new album, This is String Pain. Projection almost did it again to close out today's Matt Connerton Unleashed here from the studios of WMH ninety five point three FM.

Thank you all, and I will talk to y'all a little bit later. Hopefully I'll see you tonight for retro Spectrum Radio

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