Matt Connarton Unleashed: Jesse Rutstein

Speaker 1: Really, it's just another story about life and love and pain.

Speaker 2: You want someone to need you, and I just broke the chain.

Speaker 1: You came to me in a hurry, never tried to take my hand. I had no intention, since you never had a plan. It could have been loved. It was a passionate fir I made come, but you never stayed anywhere.

Speaker 2: It could have been loved.

Speaker 3: If you wanted it to be. But you don't need no.

Speaker 2: One to blame it on.

Speaker 1: Baby, It could have been me. I never asked about your story. If I did, you never tell drowning in our sadness while your body cast a spell. Sometimes you just know it's not a night that brings you things.

Speaker 2: I got what I came for.

Speaker 1: It, you got your leaves. It could have been alone. It was a passionate affair. A made you come, but you never stayed anywhere. We could have been alone if I wanted it to be.

Speaker 2: But you don't need no one to blame it all.

Speaker 3: The baby, It could have been me. Who could have been some men?

Speaker 1: Well, let's just roll down my story about life and loving pain. We loved it when and our skin would touch the hearts or wrapped in chains, I could have been your everything and you.

Speaker 2: Could have been my wife, but you ran away and I.

Speaker 1: Let you go.

Speaker 2: In soul such as life, it.

Speaker 1: Could have been loved. It was a passionate fair I made you come, but you never stayed anywhere and could.

Speaker 3: Have been loved.

Speaker 4: If we wanted it to be.

Speaker 2: But you need someone to blame it on.

Speaker 1: Baby, ain't gonna be me.

Speaker 5: I love that that is called stay anywhere, and that is Jesse Rutstein, who is here with us and we're going to be speaking with in just a moment, and he's going to play a couple songs live with us, but or live for us, I should say. But if you are listening live on Saturday, I hope you're traveling safely. We've got some winter weather and was very surprised to wake up to that. But this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.

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Speaker 6: Cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 5: Today is a Saturday, April twelve, two thy twenty five. Jenny is here, of course at the news table, President accounted for and let me get.

Speaker 6: That mic up there.

Speaker 5: So we've got Jesse Rutstein.

Speaker 6: Is here with us.

Speaker 4: Hello, Jesse, Yay, how's it going good?

Speaker 5: I gotta boost this up a little bit. We have to kind of sound check live on the air. But yeah, welcome to the show. It's great to have you on. So we met you at the grand reopening of Terminus Underground back in how many months it becomes a blur.

Speaker 6: I don't know how many.

Speaker 4: Months ago, January I think, yeah.

Speaker 6: It was it was a yeah January that.

Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds right, yeah, yeah, and no, we were very impressed. I love your voice, thank you, absolutely absolutely, and uh and the songs are great. We have we played that studio track and we're gonna be playing another one toward the end of our conversation today too, which is a world radio premiere or something that that we'll talk about later. So really looking forward to that and looking forward to hearing you play live.

Speaker 6: But uh, that.

Speaker 5: Tell us about because we were talking off air too about a collaborator of yours who someone who has been on the show, although ironically not talking about music but talking about other subjects. So you was on a long time ago. But Caleb, Yeah, yeah, Caleb Dier.

Speaker 4: He is my probably my main producer, co producer because we both work on the stuff together, been in a few bands together over the years. I hooked up with Tree Street's Inc. Is the studio that we work out of, executive producers Dave Patterson, who makes all this happen for us, and me and Caleb hooked up years ago. We were in the Jes Solsen band together, and then we were in a short lived band called Stay in the End. And you know, both of us are just working working on the studio together, and we did a bunch of tracks.

Speaker 4: The track that we're about We're Gonna play later is actually a song that's been three years in the making. We recorded tracks years ago and it kind of gave some rebirth to it. So yeah, he's kind of like been my partner throughout this whole thing. It's definitely the EP is going to be a solo release, but it definitely takes a village, you know.

Speaker 6: Right right, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 5: So where do you record like you record at his studio or where do you record?

Speaker 4: So the studio is operated own and operated by Dave Patterson. It's called Tree Streets. It's on Vine Street in Nashua. And the things that Dave has done with this place, it's a it's a full studio and a rehearsal space for other bands, similar to what Terminus Underground does. It's kind of a place where we can get in and uh not break the bank to record and and and put together some really great tracks. There's so much talent. Dave as an engineer, Caleb as engineer, musician you know, and producer as well.

Speaker 4: So the three of us have been working closely together for years, about four or five years now. So it's full studio at the sound booth, you know everything. It's not much to look at on the outside, but when you go in anytime somebody new comes down, they're.

Speaker 2: Like, wow, this place is great.

Speaker 4: Yeah, you know we have and there's a number of bands that you know, rent space in there and stuff too. It's not so much as a performance as as like kind of a studio the studio side of local music.

Speaker 5: Okay, okay, very cool. And so how did your Are you from Nashua?

Speaker 4: Is that I'm from Nasha you're from?

Speaker 5: Is that how your your association with Eleanor and Andre from Terminus in New Hampshire Underground came about.

Speaker 4: Yeah, Eleanor hit me up. I think that I forget exactly what happened. I think they had a cancelation or they just heard about me. But there was a show last fourth of July. It was a veterans benefit and they asked me if i'd like to go do it, and yeah, yeah, we met, we hit it off, and then they asked me to come play at Terminus. And I've been down there a few times. Great great place, you know, great, great place for local musicians and artists.

Speaker 6: I met.

Speaker 4: The person who's doing all my photography down there, crafty k. She's she's I met her at Terminus too, and okay, you know, so it's it's and what we're trying to do at Tree Streets is like the student udeo side of showcasing what they're what they're doing in Nashvilla. So it's really it's it's, uh, I really love those guys. They're really awesome. Yeah, yeah, and I'll be playing down there on the seventh of June.

Speaker 6: Oh, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 5: Yeah, we so when we went to that so, yeah, that was the first time Jenny and I had seen you and uh Quincy Lord who had just been on the show. I think uh might have been on that morning, no, or maybe.

Speaker 4: It was Definitely it was weird because I checked you out right after we booked the show and Quincy had been on because I just had just met Quincy that night as well.

Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, he's amazing, He's great.

Speaker 5: The thing that I tell everybody about Terminus is the first time you walk into it, it's like it's like walking into another world. It's like, uh, you know what I mean, It's so unique and so interesting.

Speaker 4: Yeah, and you get there and you know, you look and you're like, am I in the right spot?

Speaker 6: Yeah?

Speaker 5: And they do a great job with the sound there too, fantastic, Yeah, Andre And I think Katie is that her name, the sound engineer who's there a lot too. I think it's not really sure, I think it's I think I think it's Katie. Yeah, they do it, They do it great job, and they get a they get a great sound out of the place, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, And we need.

Speaker 5: You know, we need as many places like that as possible that are really into supporting local music and also you know, being able to have national acts that come through, like Jenny was able to work with Eleanor to book Green Jello there.

Speaker 4: Yeah, I missed that show. I was working that night, but my buddy went to that show and brought me an autographed shirt from from the bands, because you know, I remember those guys from when I was a kid.

Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4: Do you play out a lot?

Speaker 5: Do you play a lot of live shows?

Speaker 4: I was, I was doing a lot of shows. I've pretty much been laser focused in the studio right now. Throughout the last few years, I've been trying to put together a number of different projects and uh the you know, I work with different bands and and different artists and amazing artists that that actually appear on the upcoming EP. Oh cool, Yeah, absolutely, but it at the beginning of this year, I decided that I had so much material that we've just compiled over the last couple of years, and I have all these new songs that I wanted to do, So I was like, all right, I'm going to try to do this ground up.

Speaker 4: I've never promoted myself as a solo artist before, and so I put, I mean, there's a song that's coming out that's a duet, you know, and the one that we're going to play later, Dear Baby Jean has some amazing, amazing musicians on it, and yeah, so I was just like, you know what, I'm going to promote it as a solo thing. I'm doing all the online stuff that you're supposed to do, which is extremely tedious. Yes, the music industry has changed the way that artists get themselves out there, but I can tell you that I never thought I'd be on TikTok as much as I have with this single.

Speaker 4: But but yeah, so I am booking through the summer and you know, and going forwards, and I'm going to be promoting it as a solo thing. The show I'm doing it Terminus, I have a couple of great players that are going to be playing with me. And then I'm playing a gig at the end of June the Sorry it's the summer kickoff at the Auburn Pits June twenty second. Faith and Band is going to be the liner. Nice and you know other bit tumble Toes, Glitter, Tooth and the Whole Loaf are also going to be playing.

Speaker 4: I'm gonna be opening the show, and I got some great musicians playing that one with me too.

Speaker 6: So standing yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's all I have for the live stuff coming up right now. It's going to be laser focused on studio getting the EP out. That way, I have something to promote when I really do get out there and start.

Speaker 5: Gigging exactly and when is the EP coming out?

Speaker 2: The goal?

Speaker 4: The goal is June tenth.

Speaker 6: Ok.

Speaker 4: We're dropping the next single on May first, and June tenth. I just there's some finishing touches, you know, different musicians are supposed to be coming in and doing a couple of things for the last song, So wow, I'm hoping to get it all done by then, but uh, it'll be five songs and then after that there'll be a full length. And don't ask me a date on that one.

Speaker 5: Oh okay, so you're already planning a full length.

Speaker 4: I am planning the full length, but it's I really want to see that stay anywhere. When I released it, you know, I did a ton of research on on how to promote and and what people are doing now to get heard and I'm getting I'm getting some views and I'm getting some some some positivity coming back from it. But I really like it's almost like I'm working through the kinks on this one as I prepare to really push the next five songs.

Speaker 5: Okay, okay, no that makes sense. Yeah, Uh do you want to play I'm down here? You play live? I know Jenny is too on the audience shore Yeah, uh what yeah, I'll let you go ahead and grab your guitar and then while Jesse's doing that. Uh, if you are listening live, of course, we have Jesse Rutstein here with us live in studio on this snowy SAT.

Speaker 6: Morning.

Speaker 5: We were very surprised to wake up to uh a lot of snow on the ground and it was still coming down and the roads were messy and uh, just right back to winter. But uh, let's see. Let me turn that uphold. Oh that sounds nice in the headphones. That sounds nice. Yeah, that sounds really good. What what are you gonna play for us?

Speaker 4: There's a song called Superhero Toys.

Speaker 6: Okay.

Speaker 4: I have four amazing, amazing children, Gia, Junior, Jackson.

Speaker 6: And Reenie.

Speaker 4: Her name is Maureen, but we call her Reenie. Oh okay, this is a song I wrote a long time ago when I found out I was having my second son. And it's a song about my my first son, and and like, how nerve racking it is to find out you're having a boy, and all the thoughts that go through your mind. I have to raise a man. You gotta teach him respect, You got to teach him to be good, and you know, and and so the first verse is about that, and then the rest of the song is about how great he is. And then his his brother, Jackson was born.

Speaker 4: How great of a big brother and uh wow. So it's like yeah, and yeah, I'm really proud of all my all my babies.

Speaker 6: All right, very good? And what's it called again?

Speaker 4: It's called superhero toys.

Speaker 6: Superhero toys? All right?

Speaker 7: My mad loss and these tears are of joy.

Speaker 2: When she looked up to me and said, this one's a boy. Kind of funny. How to fear and the.

Speaker 8: Love of a son, stop you to think of the things you have done, because I want him to be strong, but be sweet to his mother, a moliot, brave with no fear of another. And don't want him to love me as much as he can, because it's my job to make.

Speaker 2: Him live.

Speaker 9: Him Sue, is you my angel? But this one's for the boys. To the truck say and the trains and the.

Speaker 8: Superhero choice to fish in and wishing we could stay up farm night.

Speaker 2: Until mom comes.

Speaker 8: Turns out Life, he said, don't worry, boys.

Speaker 1: It's all gonna be all ride.

Speaker 2: He gets the shot, and then his sister gets away with ball than he does.

Speaker 8: When she looks in me that way, he said, Hey, Dad, why can't I get what I want? I said, you know better, son, So let's have some furs.

Speaker 9: And so here's to my angel. But this one's for the boys. To the truck say on the trains and.

Speaker 8: The superhero choice to fishing and wishing we could stay up all night until mom comes.

Speaker 2: Turns out Life.

Speaker 1: Said, don't worry boys, it's all gonna be all ride. And I can't believe how much you have grown.

Speaker 2: I'm proud of.

Speaker 8: You, Soning, And I hope that you know there's another boy coming.

Speaker 2: I hope that she can help me.

Speaker 10: To make hill men long mad loss again. Ortis a joy.

Speaker 8: She looked up at me and said, it's another boy, and I know that you'll love him as much as you can, because it's my job to.

Speaker 2: Make him man. It's a job to make him man.

Speaker 7: And so here's to my angel.

Speaker 2: But this one's for the boys.

Speaker 8: To the truck say on the trains and the Superhero Toys, to fishing inn and wishing we could stay up bar night until mom comes and turns out the life.

Speaker 7: Let's see it. Don't worry, boys, it's.

Speaker 2: All gonna be all right.

Speaker 5: Oh that is beautiful.

Speaker 4: That is beautiful, Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 5: That is Superhero Toys, performed live by Jesse Rudstein here in studio on this snowy Saturday morning. Matt connorton unleased. We are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM. And uh, let's see uh my art by KF in the chat room, says Rocket Jesse.

Speaker 4: That is uh that she did all of all the photography for the album. Oh that's who did the Okay, Yeah, she's really great, outstanding.

Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely very cool, very cool.

Speaker 5: I'm curious about, like, how did you learn to sing? Because you've got a certain there's a rawness to your voice that I really like that I think, and I think it works perfectly with your material, Like did you ever take lessons?

Speaker 4: Are you self taught? Or the only lessons I ever took were on drums? The singing. The singing has it's been you know, I thought I could sing for a long time, and then I started record and I was like, wow, I really need to work on this. Yeah, for sure, it's it's uh so. My my influences are everything from BB King to Michael Jackson to Metallica, you know, I mean, and but and the Beatles and everything in between. And and I had I found out early on that a little bit of rasp can hide the fact that I don't know a lot of notes.

Speaker 4: I used to play the blues a lot. That's how I really learned how to play, me and my friends just in high school, and I played a lot of blues, and then the classic rock with classic rock, which I guess is now oldies. But yeah, I always really liked the raspy kind of voice. Yeah, ken hits, you know. I and through the years, through you know, recording and listening back, and I always joke like I hate my voice, you know, because I listened to it more than anybody else studio and whatnot. But yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 4: Of course I appreciate it, and it's uh, I definitely don't want to say it's years of practice and lots of smoking, but but yeah, so I I you know, it took me a while to kind of like be like, all right, this is my my thing, this is my voice.

Speaker 6: You know.

Speaker 4: I have friends and bands back in the day who are like, why are you always doing the raspy thing? Like you have a really nice clear voice too, and that does that does come through on the record, Okay, you know, but yeah, I try to be as diverse as possible because my influences range. They're just all over the road. Yeah, so you know, I'm trying to put you know, there's that one which is the sweet song, and then the one you played, which is kind of like the outlaw acoustic. Yeah, and then Dear Baby Jeane is like a hard rock and tune with amazing guitar work done by Peter Davis and who's a great local musician as well.

Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm trying to like bring a little bit of everything. But the one thing that does hold it all together, I at least in my opinion, and is the voice. Okay, you know, yeah, I'm trying to put ham and B three organs on one and then we have a shaker on the other one. It's just acoustic, you know. So it's like it's it's uh, what holds it together? Is that familiar voice.

Speaker 5: When you sing with with that rasp. Is that something you do consciously or does that just happen? Because you mentioned too, you do also sing on some tracks with a cleaner voice.

Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I I control it the best I can do it. I do it on purpose because I can hit you know, lovely notes too.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when I'm doing the acoustic gigs, you got to kind of do that. But yeah, it just it just it comes naturally to me. And yeah, it's like a guitarist learning how to control his feedback, you know. Yeah, you know, sometimes it's cool. Sometimes it's like you just turn it down right right.

Speaker 6: Now.

Speaker 5: You mentioned so you used to play in a band. Actually, you mentioned you played in a band with Caleb.

Speaker 4: I played in a couple of bands with Calebs We met I believe around two thousand, two thousand and one with the jess Olsen band. Jess Olsen's another amazing music musician from the area. She's Jessica Songbird is probably how anybody would know her.

Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she's really great. I think I interviewed Jess Olson once.

Speaker 4: I wouldn't doubt it, Yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5: It becomes a blurb, but I think a long time ago I interviewed jess Olson. That's very familiar.

Speaker 4: That surprises me because she's really really memorable. But she's yeah, she's awesome. And the band just kind of went separate ways me and me and Jess had different ideas of what we were going to do with the music going forward after being together for a couple of years. And when the band split, the guys that were, you know, Alec Philip Brown was our bass player and Seth Sedars, who appears on some tracks on the record as well, played drums, and we were like, hey, you want to just keep jamming and doing some rock stuff.

Speaker 4: I was like, well, are we going to find a new singer?

Speaker 6: You know?

Speaker 4: And they're like, why don't you just sing? So we did a few gigs and recorded some really really wonderful music as a group, and that was about two or three years ago, and now here we are where some of those songs that I thought that I was just gonna scrap because that been you know, people have schedule, different goals and whatnot. And when that ended, I thought, oh well, I lost a couple of tunes here. But I ended up, you know, going back in and putting some stuff together. And you know, this one song called on Your Toes, which originally was a song about a girl and I just for whatever reason, I'm not going to be playing that song anymore.

Speaker 4: But the drums were just so good in it. And On Your Toes was a song that I wrote years and years ago about my daughter, who's an amazing dancer, and it's a song about her doing getting up on toe shoes when she was in ballet for the first time. And there's a really nice song. But I was like, wow, those drums are gonna work really cool. So I went in and cut up. I told Seth. I was like, I'm gonna be cutting up your drum track, but I'm gonna be using it.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 4: So he hasn't even heard his drum track yet.

Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's cool. That one.

Speaker 4: I can't wait. I'll be playing that one for you today too. Okay, that one I can't wait to release because that's a really cool tune. Yeah, I have some saxophone on it.

Speaker 6: Oh, very cool.

Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the forgotten rock and roll instrument.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 5: What was it that brought you after playing in bands? What was it that brought you to wanting to do a solo thing but where you're still obviously collaborating with a lot of musicians.

Speaker 4: Well, Number one, I've never done it before. Yeah, It's always been a dream of mine. But I find that, like, especially in this area, it's really really tough to get out there and promote original music. And if I'm gonna start a band, nine times out of ten, you're gonna be playing three hour cover gigs. Not that I have anything against that, and not to think anything's wrong with that. There are some freaking workhorses in this town. Oh yeah, in the area who are out there every night killing it, bringing live music to the area.

Speaker 4: It's just I want to do my thing. I want to get on some bills that are promoting original music, and I realize in order to do that, I'm going to have to have that original music available. So I kind of instead of playing in bands that will be funded by playing three hour nights at a bar, I'm going to go the other route and try to promote this first and then get out there and get some opening slots for some bigger bands and some kind of thing.

Speaker 6: At least that's the goal.

Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, Well do you want to play that song?

Speaker 6: You're just talking about it. I'd love to hear another one.

Speaker 5: And if you are listening live, if you're just joining us, Jesse Rutstein, it is here with us live in studio on this Saturday morning here and sounding amazing.

Speaker 6: So that one.

Speaker 4: The last one I played was about my son. This is about my daughter. Don't know if you know anything about dance, but I was a dance dad. And okay, when when a kid gets company, it's like being one of the all stars.

Speaker 6: Oh okay, got she.

Speaker 4: She became a company dancer, and uh, this is about the first time I saw it, because it takes a couple of years to get up on those toe shoes. And you know when you picture a ballerina like like a music box or something and they're on that toe that's what that's what the song's aboutast time I actually saw her do it.

Speaker 5: Oh okay, very cool, You're sorry, No worries.

Speaker 8: The size of campy real with the light up when they look at me. The yard would be ideal.

Speaker 2: Way to walk and touching the trees, every touch tree.

Speaker 2: When I saw you dancing on your toe.

Speaker 8: I knew what they man when they said it's hot to watch them grow.

Speaker 2: When you first dance.

Speaker 11: With me, I had to hold gems and capture clothes.

Speaker 11: She said, I love you, mom.

Speaker 2: Now can't believe she's really give you man, I can never be I see a woman, not a girl.

Speaker 8: And I can remember the time of sun from the til you came into my life. That had been so Friday.

Speaker 8: When I saw you dancing on your toes, I knew what the man when they said it sung to watch them grow.

Speaker 1: When you first dance with me, I had to pold your hands, catch your club, she said, I love.

Speaker 12: She said, I love you more. The man saw you're dancing, and I'm not tild.

Speaker 2: I what th man when you said it's no man saw you're dancing. Are you telling sound thing?

Speaker 10: Now?

Speaker 2: When you said it's.

Speaker 13: To watch you rom to watch you grow, to watch a ground?

Speaker 5: Very nice, Thank you very much, very nice, Thank you so much.

Speaker 6: Absolutely.

Speaker 5: Jesse Rutsteene is here with us live in studio on this Saturday morning. And uh, by the way, uh so Philippe is in the chat room, says loving it Jesse. And also Rob Dyon, who does a show here called through the Stage Door, was inquiring about your last name and his rut scene, so he's obviously a fan, all right, T s t E. I yes, yes, and uh, let's see also I see uh Miriam Banish of course, our good friend and a big supporter of the show and all the shows here at w M. And H's in there also, and we have somebody listening from Uganda.

Speaker 5: Hello, welcome. So that's good news, absolutely absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 5: So the so the EP, we went into the decision to do an EP because I you were saying, so the EP will come out June is what you're shooting for. But then you've but then you've also got an album in my pretty much time.

Speaker 4: And you know, the studio is utilized by by a number of people. My day is Sunday, so I'm down all day Sunday and I you know, I spend time and I record some other people too. I teach lessons out of there. Oh wow, oh yeah, yeah, I mean I only have one student and one potential at the time.

Speaker 6: Coming up.

Speaker 4: But I love you know, I work, I work right with kids. Yeah yeah, I got a bunch of them. Yeah, so you know, and uh, I really I love I love watching the uh young, the younger generation get into to rock and roll, which I actually think is really happening right now. I'm seeing so many kids and it's funny, Like my daughter is gonna kill me for telling this story. But she wears a deaf leopard shirt and I'm like, name one song and she's like, it's a cool shirt, dad, And I'm advertising the band.

Speaker 6: All right.

Speaker 4: It's all about the marketing.

Speaker 6: Right right, all right, cool? Okay.

Speaker 4: She's so, she's twenty she's twenty one. Her name is Gana. She actually she's involved too because she's helping me with the marketing because I did excellent. I did not know how to use Instagram or TikTok. She had to like come over and show me.

Speaker 6: Yeah you know.

Speaker 5: Yeah, oh that's really cool. It's cool that she's helping you with that. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6: Yeah.

Speaker 5: I was curious because there's there's so many different ways to release music now.

Speaker 4: Yes, and and so i I'm going to distro kid route yuh stay anywhere is available on all streaming platforms, uh and and all of this will be But as far as your original question, why did I decide to do the it's I wanted to do a single or two and then drop four and and try to get you know, I really want I missed going out and grabbing an album and going home and listening to it back to back. And I could either sit here and act like an old man and say back in my day, or I could do what they're doing today, because I'm not going to get anywhere marketing to people my age or just like my Facebook friends, you know.

Speaker 4: So so I think I've been like I said, I was doing some research and you know, private research and whatever, and uh, it looks like people are getting really successful this way. So I figured why not throw my you know, I got some good songs here? Why not my name and the hat?

Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it makes sense, It makes sense. The time goes quickly. Do you want to play one more? I'm dying to hear another live one. I want to make sure that's doing and then and then after that we'll talk about the new the new singles and whatnot. But Jesse Rutstein is here with us live in studio and uh love loving these so much, so awesome.

Speaker 6: What are you? What are you gonna play for us?

Speaker 4: This one's actually called Picture of Our Hands, song I wrote last year which turned into.

Speaker 6: A duet on the EPA.

Speaker 4: It's a male female and I brought my my wonderful friend Alex Cecia into the studio. She's just an amazing, amazing singer. She plays around here Alex six strings is what she goes by, and we originally brought her in to do the backup vocals because there's a lot of harmonies on this one, and after her coming in and absolutely nailing the part, I thought to myself, I was like, hey, you want to try singing the second verse because the song is about a breakup, and so with the female vocal on the second verse, it kind of sounds like a breakup within the song.

Speaker 4: So it's it's definitely cool and her vocal makes the tune. So I'm gonna play it now because I can't wait to get this song out there. But this one's going to be released with the rest of them, and it's gonna I'm telling you it's it's probably going to be the treat, you know, because because it's got the other vocal on there, and she's absolutely amazing, and I can't wait to release it. Yes, our picture of our.

Speaker 8: Hands, moving up and down the stairs, wishing that you were there.

Speaker 2: Now I live life, ain't living nowhere.

Speaker 1: I hope you don't feel this pain, never felt this way while this peace in your life.

Speaker 2: I'm going and see now you got me going in see.

Speaker 4: And now I'm gone.

Speaker 8: And sometimes they say, he'll never get what you want, but I've got to keep bound rolling. And sometimes they say it's hard away and you're on your own, but I've got to keep bond rolling, higher, keep bond rolling.

Speaker 1: I always knew you told my lies, saw that you love in your eyes, that you had for me. That's why I'm so surprised. But I'll take it where it lands, no money and no plan. Stop crying. Then toss the picture of my hands.

Speaker 3: High.

Speaker 8: Am I really love the picture of my hands, And now I'm gone. And sometimes they say, and never get what you want, But I've got.

Speaker 2: To keep bound rolling. And sometimes they say it's hot a win.

Speaker 1: You're on your own, But I've got to keep bound rolling.

Speaker 7: Why am worrying all this reflection? I have to myself.

Speaker 2: So many reasons for you to run away. And now I'm gone.

Speaker 8: And sometimes they say you never get what you want, but I've got to keep bound rulling. And sometimes they say it's hard to wear and you're on your own. But I've got to keep bond and now I'm gone, And sometimes it say never get what you want, but I've got to keep bond rulling. And you'll know why I'm gone.

Speaker 1: Go and kill what I want, but I've got to keep bone rulling.

Speaker 6: Nice. I love it.

Speaker 4: I love it awesome.

Speaker 5: Thank you Jesse Rutstein here with us alive in studio. So, Jesse, do you have anything like when's your when's your next gig? We should make sure people know.

Speaker 4: That Terminus on June seventh will be the next one.

Speaker 6: June seventh, okay, and then.

Speaker 4: The summer kickoff is June twenty second. That is, it's going to be at the Auburn Pits. It's a daytime through the nighttime thing. I'll be opening the show at one, faith fans closing up and again the Tumble Tooads, Glitter Tooth and the Whole Loaf We're going to be down there too. It's gonna be a really fun time, you know, getting the summer kicked off. It's a Sunday gig, so and that it's a really great venue, the Auburn Pits, So you know, we're hoping to get a bunch of people down there, and it's gonna be that One's gonna be really fun.

Speaker 4: It'll be the first time that I actually have a full like the Terminus gig. I'll be doing a trio. Caleb's probably gonna be with me on that cool took, but this will be the first time I'm going to be able to actually perform it all with all the parts.

Speaker 6: Oh outstanding, outstanding.

Speaker 5: And where's the best place for people to go online to keep up with everything that?

Speaker 4: If your Facebook, you go to face Jesse Rudstein Music. If you love Instagram, go to Jesse Rudstein Music. Three, and then on TikTok it's just Jesse Rudstein And then I'm embarrassed to admit, but I'm still getting the website rolling. I'm not going to do one of those plastic things. I'm yeah, I got somebody actually working on it. That's gonna really make a nice one.

Speaker 5: Oh good, good, absolutely, yeah, no, that's very important. That's very important.

Speaker 4: Like I said, starting from the ground up. This is actually the first radio interview I've done promoting this thing.

Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, excellent. Well, we're very happy that you're here and glad you played live for us too. That sounds everything sounds really good. And in a moment, we're gonna get to uh, well, let's let's talk about it. So we're gonna do the World Radio you know we love the World Radio premieres on the on the show, and we're gonna play this track. Now, what is tell us about this? About this song?

Speaker 6: This song?

Speaker 4: So, twenty twenty four was a it was a really like weird year for me, okay, like crazy, crazy year, and this song was something things that have happened prior that led up to it. This was actually written about three years ago when I was at a place where I was you know, it's an angry song. I was very angry about the situation that I was in, and it doesn't it doesn't even necessarily reflect it. It's my art, like that's how I was feeling at the time, Like, yeah, things have changed since then and things have gotten a lot better.

Speaker 4: So it's like one of those one of those things like a painter paints of painting. You can't change it in two years when things get better. Yeah, but this song has just it. Instead of like acting on my emotions, I try to let him out through my music, you know. And this became. It started off as just the weirdest with the weirdest lyrics, and then I've changed a lot of the lyrics. It came from a conversation. I was a bartender for a while, and it came from a conversation that I was having with another guy that was going at the bar that was going through a similar situation.

Speaker 4: And so Caleb decided that he really wanted to throw a keyboard part on this, and we have the ham and B three and the keyboard part makes the whole song. It really does up until this past year. So he basically put this tune together with me and the outro had this really really great keyboard solo on it. And when I started to revisit it this year, he said to me, He's like, I don't know if the keyboard solo is right. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Keyboard soul is awesome. He's like he's like, no, man, the keyboard runs the beginning of the song.

Speaker 4: He's like, it should be guitar, you know. So I did a guitar solo at the end, and I'm an okay guitar player. I like the way I play lead guitar, but it just wasn't cutting it for this tune. So I brought in Peter Davis is his name him, And actually he's in a band with Connor Coburn from No More Blue Tomorrows, and they're an excellent band in Connor is all over thep as well, helping me with engineering and vocal mixing and you name it. But Peter we briefly played together. I've only played together with him a few times, and I was like, hey, you want to come down and do this track.

Speaker 4: It's really cool tune.

Speaker 6: I think.

Speaker 4: I think it's right up his guitar style. Like this guy isn't just one of the best guitarists I've ever played with, He's one of the best guitarists I've ever heard. That's how good this guy is. And so he came down to the studio and I was just I didn't know what to expect. And we sat down for a couple hours and collectively put together this solo. I was like, this is what I hear, but I can't do it, So can you do that? And he would be like, all right, well, I'll just do it ten times better than what you Yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was really great working with him, and he's absolutely a feature on this track. I couldn't the song wouldn't be what it is without this guitar solo. Okay, but it's just, you know, it's a tune that I wrote when I was very unhappy about what was going on in my life, and everything has gotten better since. But the song, you know, is there and I want it. I just think it's a great tune. It's hard rocking.

Speaker 3: You know.

Speaker 4: If anybody who's listening in their car right now turn it up, you know, because this is one of those ones that you want to crank. Yeah, And I'm just very very happy with it.

Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, very cool.

Speaker 5: So we're gonna play that in just a moment. And I do want to remind people too, if you missed any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org and at my website Matt Coonnerton dot com and Jenny, you want to mention in your website because you're always doing a lot of great stuff.

Speaker 4: You can come check me out at Gencoffee dot com.

Speaker 7: J E N N C O F f U I dot com.

Speaker 5: Absolutely, and thank you to everyone who joined us today, Katie Dobbins who called in, and of course I echo Ray who joined us in studio. And we are going to close out today's show with this. This is the World Radio Premiere. This is brand new from Jesse Rutstein and this is called here.

Speaker 6: Baby, Gene, you.

Speaker 1: Are listening to WUMNH.

Speaker 6: World Premiere.

Speaker 2: Sorry baby, when your mama doesn't.

Speaker 3: Care and your daddy has to pay, you're.

Speaker 8: Just jealous over and sellings mooning mid She pushed herself out of his off while she lies to herself.

Speaker 2: And everybody else to keep you apart.

Speaker 8: Tam, you know he's sorry that he missed your last birthday.

Speaker 8: You know your mama told you he wanted it that way,

Speaker 8: telling you and a friends that he's the bad man.

Speaker 2: Because he broke her off.

Speaker 8: But he see you auld Cain would put the shoe in then and get a brand new starck.