Matt Connarton Unleashed: Legion of Solace (Bruce, Malcolm, Rebecca)

0:00 Speaker 1: Uh, well, let's get our guests in here. So now one of these fine people, Bruce has been here with us before.

0:06 Speaker 2: Welcome back.

0:08 Speaker 3: Absolutely my favorite T shirt.

0:09 Speaker 1: We asked, Legion of Solace. Yes they are.

0:12 Speaker 4: They are, which very much says support local music, and I love it and it has this beautiful phoenix on it. Yes, so it's it's like dually awesome of a T shirt.

0:25 Speaker 1: And uh, Bruce, I'll let you introduce your your comrades.

0:28 Speaker 3: Here, colleagues.

0:30 Speaker 2: I've got Malcolm.

0:31 Speaker 3: Wood Malcolm Wood welcome, Hello.

0:33 Speaker 2: Hello, and I also have Rebecca Knockman with me as well.

0:36 Speaker 3: Rebecca welcome, thank you. Yeah.

0:40 Speaker 1: Well, let me turn that mic up a little bit. Yeah, that Mike, that's my least favorite mic in the room.

0:45 Speaker 3: You notice that that one's the one that gives us.

0:47 Speaker 1: If there's one that gives us trouble, it's always that one.

0:50 Speaker 4: Say hi to me so I can see if you're sounding good.

0:53 Speaker 1: That's that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just got to talk right into it.

0:56 Speaker 3: Yeah.

0:56 Speaker 1: These mics are very very unidirectional. Uh so, yeah, so welcome. So for the uninitiated, for those who don't know what is Legion of Solace, because and I think I even might have said this, you bers, when I first heard the name Legion of Solace, I assumed it was a band.

1:10 Speaker 3: A lot of people do. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna even lie to you. A lot of people do. So what is Legion of Solace? Exactly?

1:16 Speaker 5: Well, the founder Tuesday, she shout out to Tuesday. She's thinks she's watching right now, sutt to Tuesday. She's our founder and we're the co founders. But also Legion of Solace. That what we do is to help promote anything in everything we can put our helping hand into, Okay, whether it's a band, a venue, or anything else beneficial wise that will help better the community, whether it's music wise, benu wise that says helping that helps the music world to anybody who is backing and trying to have more local and up and coming bands shows, that's.

1:52 Speaker 3: What we're for, okay.

1:54 Speaker 5: And we're trying to eventually get to the point where we be like a big hub of like, hey, well we had a show that didn't it fell through? You know, is there anything that we can pick up along the way we're going to be traveling through Virginia here and such a well, yes, let me call such such such such a this venue and we'll try to light something up, you know, or just even like I said, we we sponsored No Boy too back called No Boy and we followed them on their mission of going to glory, you know, and helping promote them like on the radio shows that we have.

2:24 Speaker 5: Dark Mistress has a radio show and I have a radio show Quarantine Malaca that we do music videos and have anybody come in mind is more requests form you would come in.

2:35 Speaker 3: And we'll just have fun and feel the vibe of the room for the day. Yeah.

2:42 Speaker 1: So now the how how long have all three of you been involved in Legion of Solas?

2:50 Speaker 2: Malcolm and Rebecca were involved before I was.

2:53 Speaker 3: Oh okay.

2:53 Speaker 6: It started as more of like a social club mosh pit team, and in two thousand twenty one we moved into the realm of event sponsorship with Blue Ridge Rock Festival that year's iteration okay, And after the event, we decided to move from event sponsorship directly into involvement with the smaller bands just because of we're not going in when we're not going into too many details, just some of the things we saw that we thought we could change and handle better. Yeah, direct relationships and that that's.

3:27 Speaker 2: Worked out quite well for us.

3:28 Speaker 6: We actually this September celebrated three years converting to a more involved entity in the music scene, and it's worked out really well. We call ourselves full service. We can do everything but book the show itself. But like we even catered the pre party last night. When we're not doing this, I cook for a living. Malcolm also cooks for a living, So when you put us both in the same room, it's like a chop challenge working.

3:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, And plus we just wanted to kind of find some way to up the annie of what we did last year of just coming over and hanging out and just being a presence. We were trying to be involved as much as possibly can. And like I said, you know, when we say we come at you full service, it's even to the point where I'm an ordained minister, like I can literally marry in every state of Virginia.

4:24 Speaker 1: Would you be performing any wedding tonight at Swermyfest.

4:27 Speaker 5: I mean, I can throw one down for you real quickly, no problem, it needs to be done. It needs to be done. I'm there for the service of it as well as we need more. We're trying to change it up in the world more now, you know, like we need more different ways of doing it instead of like, don't get me twisted. Traditional weddings are beautiful, it's very eclectic and everything else like that, But what why can't we be more you know, unique. So if you're a metal hit and you don't want to go to the traditional ways, come find me.

4:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm a metal hit too. I love metal hit. I don't care, I'll sing it.

4:56 Speaker 5: You're comes sobody, you know, whatever gets it done. The whole point about it is is just we're here at full service for the music because we love music.

5:07 Speaker 3: I come from both sides of the spectrum.

5:09 Speaker 5: I used to be in a well known band that's been around Lensburg, Virginia for over twenty years. But even me growing up following that band before I joined them, and they were called hateful Bones. You see what I'm saying. And so I know the whole thing, like all of what Will is preaching the same thing. The Will was preaching about trying to be there for the music and helping there. That's my band down did the same thing down where we were at, like we were even getting peeped trying to help get people even to go on to Blue Red Rock Festival when we want our showcase of going to do in the after show at Blue Red Rock Festival.

5:41 Speaker 5: So you see what I'm saying, Like me following that band is what it eventually got me to. Where I'm at now is where I want to be a pretty much hub like you or a spot where you can come and put your music at where you can spend your blood, sweat and tears into it. You don't have to sit there and go through the cesspool that is the music indust have it done, because I mean, if you think about it, legitly, it's here.

6:04 Speaker 3: That's what it is. It's successful.

6:07 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just poison after poison, have to poison. So I mean, the better make it easier for everybody as well as the more people who help share it. And not only not so you're amusing being heard, but it helps us to push more across, whether it be America or internationally, because that's what our initial goal is. We want to be able to be hit up from people and you know, Australia, you know it les you know what I'm saying, England and be like hey, we're coming to America and you know this gig fell through.

6:35 Speaker 3: Can you hook us up? Yeah?

6:37 Speaker 5: But if not already have our own you know, eventually in due time land space property where we can throw on our own leaders and solves of it. And it's not paid to play. It's you come in and you get paid and you play. You see what I'm saying, Like, not you paying and sell tickets? I mean yes, obviously, yes, we want you to promote and try to help push to where.

6:58 Speaker 3: Some of your people will buy tickets. But it's not going to be a guarantee.

7:01 Speaker 5: Like how you got to go play on these big festivals and like Sonic Temple whatever. You know what I'm saying, like you gotta you gotta go out there and put in some extra work to do so.

7:10 Speaker 3: But we don't want that.

7:12 Speaker 5: We want you to be able to come in and have as much fun as you can, enjoy the full experience, because that's what that's what happened back in the day, you know Woodstock. You know people they were just coming and having a ball. You know, it wasn't like pay to play. They probably would looked at you, stupid with a guitar case. Of course, it's crazy.

7:31 Speaker 3: Now what about you were back at how did you get involved in this?

7:34 Speaker 7: So I actually met Malcolm back Blue Ridge when he was working for Hafel Bones, Okay, and I was just a bubbly, bouncy little child. So I was like, what can I do to help? And he was like, here's a ticket or backstage pass. You can go ahead and help us with pictures and a whole bunch of other things. And so I just kind of picked up and followed him around. And it's always been a big part of my life to just help bands. I've got tons of friends down in Radford and Roanoke area that are bands. I've got friends down in Woodbridge, Virginia that are also bands trying to get big.

8:07 Speaker 7: And so when he was like, yeah, we're actually converting it from just this group that we hang out with. We're going to go big and we want to do stuff with it, I'm like helping people. I'm in what can I do?

8:16 Speaker 3: Yeah?

8:17 Speaker 1: Oh, excellent, excellent? And so how long I may have asked this before, but how long has this? How long has this existed? It's been a number of years now, right.

8:25 Speaker 5: Right, Well, to give the backstory, and I'm not going to stay in the other club. It initially started off where we all met in a whole other music club. Like we was even to the point where when we says the club experience, meaning is like most people thought we were MC's Yeah, because we were, because we were the whole battle vest. We had our heart patch, we had our you know, but we didn't have the three piece on the back, like it literally says leads to solid music promotion because we want to, you know, separate ourselves from that look.

8:58 Speaker 5: But we love that look because that's what's in rock and roll. That's what's always You always wears your battle vest to a festival. You've always wears your battle vest to a monspit. You've always done you know, you've always had your stuff where Hey, this man I saw back in nineteen eighty seven, and uh, they rocked my world and I had to get some kind of memory, you know what I'm saying.

9:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta you have that jacket.

9:16 Speaker 5: Where it has those war wounds where you know, like I was in that modspit of you know, Metallica where that dude almost got his neck burk.

9:24 Speaker 6: You know, even even before the age of the battle vest, it was the washed out, acid washed denim jacket the eighties with with your your old favorite band T shirt that you've worn one too many times, so you cut the front of it off and iron it onto the back of the jacket. Now it's totally aware.

9:40 Speaker 5: But yeah, so that's initially what it was, and it was the club experience. But and we were doing both simultaneously. But to uh, to get ourselves more format and structured and stable within the music community, to know that we are dead serious about this, we took away the club aspect for a little while and then uh just focused and so focus on just.

10:01 Speaker 3: Fine bands, fine bands, fine bands.

10:03 Speaker 5: Like I said, I wanted to do my radio show because, like I said, I've always wanted to be on radio show earlier to you.

10:08 Speaker 3: You've got the voice for it. Yeah, I try. I'll show you a little skin of what I do.

10:13 Speaker 5: But like, if you like, if you wanted to listen to it on fing radio, cool, I would like to do that also. But my thing was is I wanted to be the visual one because I've always entertained being on some kind of stage. So, you know, in order, especially when I'm not doing my music, I miss music so much that I would rather you know, start a radio show where I can have the music video up and me sitting in the corner like showing all right and just going at it, you know what I'm saying, Just having fun and banging, getting the crowd wrapped up, rilled up, and have an entertainment, just pretty much purely bringing as much true passion to this thing.

10:50 Speaker 5: Because when I grew up, it was you know, it was rebel radio. Say oh, you don't want me to play that? Screw you d You know what I'm saying, It's done, it's on. So that's what I mean. I grew up in that area and I would love to get that back because it's some of the things that we grew up on in rock and roll and how it went it should have never changed.

11:10 Speaker 3: It wasn't broken. Let's not break it again, you know what I'm saying.

11:13 Speaker 5: Let's fix it and put it back the way it was, because obviously it was going better that way than it was you breaking it and trying to sell it, you know what I'm saying.

11:20 Speaker 3: So I'm all about rubber radio.

11:22 Speaker 5: I'm all about, you know, just going out there and having fun, just enjoying music, like how anybody would do. I would love to be able to have somebody call in and say, hey, man, that last song you play we're on a road trip, but it set the moment for our you know, our thing.

11:36 Speaker 3: And it's not even a band. I know who is that band? You see what I'm saying.

11:39 Speaker 5: We want to get everybody passionate and loving music again instead of just being like, well, I listened to Slip Night from nineteen ninety eight for you know, the past twenty five years and Creed the Farms wide open, you know, some Lincoln Park from back in the day, and you know, we want you to be able to still open your mind and be collected to new stuff and not just to be stuck in the same world.

11:59 Speaker 1: Right, It's hard to get a lot of people, it's hard to even get them into new stuff. This is a subject that comes up a lot on the show because a lot of people they get to a certain age and it's like, I mean, if I had to guess what the averages, I would guess thirty. But I think for some people it's like when they graduate high school where they just kind of go, Okay, I've heard all the music I ever need to hear. I'm only going to like music up to this point, and anything after this I don't like because all the good music has already been made and people just get locked in.

12:30 Speaker 1: And I like to bring up my father is a great exception to that. My dad's in his seventies. He lives on the seacoast and he listens to WUNH, the great college station there because he loves to hear new stuff. He's always listening.

12:44 Speaker 3: To new music.

12:45 Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't get into You wouldn't get into a car with my dad and you're the oldies station on the radio. This is not gonna happen. He loves hearing new stuff and he's always been like that. But that's rare. I feel like a lot of people they just get to a certain point and they go, oh, that's it. Everything after this I just don't.

13:00 Speaker 3: I just don't like right.

13:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thirty seven and I still want to go find newer things. That's the whole reason for this, as well as how can you say call this work like this is I literally do cooking, but when this is supposed to be a second job too, Yeah, it's not. Because we have so much passion and love for it. Yeah, it's a vacation. Yeah, yeah, I mean the whole entire time me and Becka was on the way up here. We have not been able to decompress from our years of stress because the whole incident Blue and Rock Festival happened, and you know a few other places just disappearing, like Epics Center only coming around for one year.

13:32 Speaker 3: We have not been able to find, you know, affordable.

13:37 Speaker 5: Festival to go to, you know what I'm saying, to decpress and enjoy what we love and hearing new bands and finding new bands or whatever, yeah, around my area. So it's like coming up here is our decompression to reset our minds to be able to deal with the rest of distress of the year that's going to come to us.

13:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Oh yeah, absolutely, So, like that's how.

13:56 Speaker 5: Much we love music, is that it helps us in more ways in one yeah, you know, other than just passing time, Like oh that was just that was just a good song, you know what I'm just I'm glad I accidentally listened to that. No, no, this is we're really going. I literally sat there, sat there. Sometimes not here recently because I've been busy with working as a cook yeah, that I would sit there and I wouldn't even tell him.

14:22 Speaker 3: Like the next day, like I barely got three. I was asleep. Man, I've been.

14:25 Speaker 5: I went down what I call it, you know, the wormhole. I went down the rabbit hole, and I went so far that it's like I'm, you know, pretty much the mad Hatter sitting there on my twentieth cup of coffee or tea, and just like, man, let mean, what do I find? Because once I start finding new stuff that I've never heard in my life, whether either they've been signed to something a label that is not very fancy or one of the big labels, I'm all about finding new music. Like That's why I have a segment in my thing called Mystery Bands with Malachi.

14:55 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

14:55 Speaker 5: So like where I spend at least thirty seconds to a minute dead radio solids and just sit there and go scroll, scroll, just so I can also knock out two birds with one stone and prove that it is not that hard to find new music.

15:08 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing.

15:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier than ever. There's no excuse not to not to.

15:12 Speaker 5: I mean, you have Apple, you have you know Spotify, you have all these other.

15:16 Speaker 7: Things, but you got TikTok.

15:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got TikTok. You got all these bands.

15:20 Speaker 5: Like That's how I'm finding some of these bands that are before they get too big where you can't play them because I don't have any certifications to play through my radio station except for on Twitch. They'll let so much go. But if you start playing some godsmack, right, you know, it's like all right, no, we got to meet that, you know what I'm saying. So I have limits, so as long as I stay where I'm supposed to be at, which is the content of local and up and coming as well as requests and every now and again, like I said, I love my Rebel radio, So because I'm on to Rebel to the core, every now and again, you might see me sneak something in there, even if it's like thirty to forty five seconds of you know, five minutes alone or you know what I'm saying, like something really cool that everybody to kind of just keep the hypeness and the joy of the room.

16:03 Speaker 5: But other than that, that's what our platforms are made for, is to help up and coming and anything local.

16:08 Speaker 3: Where do you stream I do it?

16:11 Speaker 5: I've been on the mix on the mix of going back and forth between Facebook and Twitch, because Facebook for the longest time was letting me play whatever, even if it was something well known.

16:21 Speaker 3: And then it cut to the point where as long as it.

16:23 Speaker 5: Was local and the AI couldn't pick it up, I could play it on Facebook. And then I was like, all right, I was tired of losing all my fans because for the longest time, for like the first few years, I've been doing according to your malcoa almost little almost five years, yeah and some And when I first started out, I was playing to nobody, even on Facebook. It was like one two people come in and like, oh, you're playing videos. No, no, we don't go away. I don't want to listen to that. I don't want to see the light show.

16:48 Speaker 5: I don't want you know what I'm saying, Like, so, uh, for a couple of years I played to myself, which is fine. I still went on there and say, all have fun. The experience is what it was needed, and uh. But I initially started doing it on there, and then when they started really hardcore getting into it, like pretty much redstream and immediately blocking your your feed, it was like, all right, now I need to find something else. So I went to Twitch. Okay, we're on the mixture of Twitch and all that, and now that Discord is coming more suis to of actually doing live shows.

17:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like over there they would give you. And then this is like some places like Patreon and all that, if you do a lot, they don't care what you do over there. You can literally go over there and spit into a bucket, you know what I'm saying, all day long and the har entire time, and they wouldn't care, you see what I'm saying. So yeah, that being that, it's all depending on the where you go and how much you want to pay. So Twitch is kind of like in our feed because right now what we're doing, we're running this company off our own wallet.

17:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. This is not like we're out here scamming people and getting it all over. No. We Actually that's what I'm said.

17:50 Speaker 5: When we go to you go to our Legion of Solace dot com page, and you go to lesion on and you buy merch that money is not going into our pockets. If it does help to us to either a get up here to do something or a B two spots or something, yes we might use a little bit. Other than that, most of that money goes to Hey, use this band said they needed a sponsorship. They're about to go on toward there's short two hundred dollars in between two to four hundred dollars.

18:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we all talk amongst each other.

18:14 Speaker 5: You have enough to do it this week, Yeah, put the money together, send it off to them.

18:19 Speaker 3: There you go. Like everything that we're doing, we're running straight out of pocket.

18:22 Speaker 5: Like I just bought a new gamer laptop just to make sure I have good enough multitasking streaming.

18:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be able to do this.

18:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

18:30 Speaker 3: It's all my own TM.

18:31 Speaker 5: And it's not like we're you know, it's basically like I said, we're gonna be becoming an LLC, yeah and all that stuff. We're working towards all everything, but it's just got to do what we got to do for right now.

18:41 Speaker 1: At the top, I was curious about the streaming because my experience with this show is so like, right now, we're streaming a Facebook and YouTube. Yeah, and what what has been happening lately is so Facebook. I'll get a notification afterward that says you're sharing ad revenue with whoever the guests music that we played was, which is fine, and then I just click except so so it stays on Facebook. They don't take it down because for there was a little bit of a period where they would actually just.

19:07 Speaker 3: Take it down. Now they don't.

19:08 Speaker 1: And with YouTube, I usually get a notification that just says sometimes it'll say your video is blocked in certain countries, but never the US, which is good, and and they just you know, I can't monetize it, which I don't expect to be able to anyway, because I'm you know, it's copyrighted stuff.

19:26 Speaker 5: But once they see that you're an actual legit FM and AM radio station, yeah, they probably like, oh, well, he has the the credits to do.

19:35 Speaker 1: So I think you're right, because I because I used to get blocked, like on Facebook. They would block it, and then I would file the appeal and I would say that I would say, we're a federally LICENSEDUFF and radio station. But I had this whole spiel, and then after a while they just stopped blocking it. And then and then instead I started getting the ad revenue share of thing. So yeah, but you said so, but Twitch doesn't give you a hard time.

19:56 Speaker 5: So I'm playing something extremely well known, like a well known bay like five a death punch.

20:00 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a god or something that.

20:02 Speaker 5: Immediately as soon as you hear like, oh that's for sugar, Oh that's you know, bullon Parade, that's this.

20:08 Speaker 3: You know.

20:08 Speaker 5: If it ain't got that, it's good, like anything that's up and coming. That's why I try this, like, because I'm one person and I can't get all the way around America and deep into the bowels of it. That's why we, like I said, we have the Legion of Solace to where you can come into any of our pages. Yeah, talk to us right and say, hey, man, I came across this band that I saw last night at an underground show. Here's their credentials, here's what this is. Here's a good video that you can put upon your show, or you can just come in and drop the link in to my radio a radio show.

20:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't matter. As long as it's not something well known, We're good.

20:43 Speaker 3: Yeah.

20:44 Speaker 1: I was curious about that too, because I could in theory, I could stream this to Twitch and it's set up to do that. But the only reason I don't is because I've just heard horror stories about them being super touchy about.

20:56 Speaker 5: It is what it is. I think it's more along the lines, especially like if you can fighting it, like with you having all the conditionals to do so, yeah, they're immediately like all right, well we'll let you go and we we'll leave you alone.

21:09 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that feeling.

21:10 Speaker 5: The only time they've ever bothered me is actually if I'm putting up a legit video of like, you know, Loan of Shores and I put up you know, the hell fire video and you know, actually put it to where people can go back and rewatch it, then that'll be a problem. But if it's a band or unlike up and coming band or local band, it's not gonna be it's not gonna be matter because there's not on their registry to be like, well we can't we can't buck.

21:39 Speaker 3: There's no stopping that.

21:40 Speaker 5: That's why that's why I was like wanted to also talk to you, like how did you even be able to get disappeal on that field radio? Because I wanted to figure out how I can do that same thing down in Listbord, Virginia in my home because that's literally what I do. I sit in my studio and I just go down the rabbit hole and find up and coming bands and design bands or whoever somebody comes in and request. Yeah, and play it like we've been playing a bunch of the bands like Dead by Wednesday.

22:06 Speaker 3: I'll play them just about all the time on the radio show.

22:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've played Uh, I played Sepsist all the time, playing now bite what inverter? Yeah, we play all the inverter guys. You know anybody that we I've ben't come across personally or just I found a monst going down the rabbit hole. Okay, I'm playing on the radio show, And like I said, you're always welcome, And I'm even about to start on what's up app things to where you can call in just like on your show. Like your show, you can call in and talk to me, and you can do your request per calling and we can even have a conversation.

22:42 Speaker 5: Because my podcast is whatever it is about music, whether we can talk about the whole it doesn't matter what genre you want to talk about. The Diddy situation. Let's talk about the Didy situation. Yeah, I geme my opinion on it. Cool, you know, blah blah blah. It's totally unsensored. And that's the great thing about twitch too, you can use as long as you set the the things right where it's you know, saying, hey, this is supposed to be something that's over eighteen blah blah blah blah, and then next thing, you know, you can do whatever you want and talk, you know, about whatever situations you want.

23:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I like, like Will, I'm a very I'm very I as you could tell, I'm trying to keep mine my composure about me and not trying to do anything stupid and just automatically like I'm on my own radio show and just go at it. I'm just one of those type of people. Yeah, I'm very. I don't have no filter. I have no filter at all whatsoever. So like you, it's even worse when I'm in the kitchen. I kid you, not even worse when I'm in the kitchen. So the thing about it is, it's just we're all here to have fun, man and live life.

23:43 Speaker 5: And our passion is music. My music is always in passion. Like my passion always in music, even when I was in middle school, all that stuff, growing up with a chorus, the band, everything that I possibly could, even to the point of getting kicked out about the music teacher because I'm wearing a Maryland Manson shirt. Oh okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying. My music teacher could not staying anybody who wanted to start a band. If you want to start a band with some trumpets, trumboes, some flutes, some sacks, He's down for that, right, but he wasn't for the whole Oh you coming into Maryland, Masster.

24:12 Speaker 5: Sure, Oh you got a navana, get a class. Yeah, I'll come from all that. Yeah, it's awesome.

24:20 Speaker 1: And you're so you're from Virginia and Bruce, you're in Massachusetts.

24:23 Speaker 2: I'm in Massachusetts. I grew up in Ohio. I've been out here for years.

24:26 Speaker 3: And Rebecca, where are you from?

24:27 Speaker 7: So I'm from northern Virginia, like right outside of DC. But for the past four years I was actually out in Colorado and just recently got back to northern Virginia.

24:36 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, very good. What what set you to Colorado?

24:41 Speaker 7: Personal life issues. I kind of had to abandon ship pretty quick and get out to safe zone with momtcha, and then rebuilt up. And now I'm kind of picking up the messes of what happened. But we're getting better and we're going up and good yeah.

24:55 Speaker 3: Good, good, very good.

24:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you are joining us, we have members of Legion of Solace here with us alive in studio. What are some of the things that you that you see wrong that because Bruce, you had made a reference to this earlier, you said some of the things that you see wrong in the in the music scene that that are part of the motivation for why you're doing the things that you want to fix or help with.

25:19 Speaker 6: The biggest issue is pay to play. Yeah, if you are providing talent and you are providing entertainment, why do you have to pay me to do so?

25:27 Speaker 3: Right?

25:28 Speaker 6: You are the artist in that situation. Shouldn't you be paid for your art?

25:32 Speaker 3: Yeah?

25:32 Speaker 6: So if you're invited, if like Jen, you don't get you don't get invited to Mosaic with a bill, you get invited to Mosaic with a hanging hook.

25:45 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, she doesn't.

25:46 Speaker 4: But I do pay an entrance.

25:47 Speaker 3: There is an entrance, there's an entrance for you.

25:49 Speaker 4: That but but that's the jury show, so.

25:53 Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right?

25:54 Speaker 6: So, so the the entrance for you is to be juried, correct, But so so, but what once you're invited to be on the bill.

26:02 Speaker 2: There's no more money, right right.

26:04 Speaker 6: So and like so some of the bigger festivals, not only do they have an application fee if you're not selected, it's a non refundable application fee. Really so if it's so, like to take Blue Ridge for example, if they're booking one hundred and eighty six bands for the four days, they might take six hundred applications. Now, of those six hundred applications, they might only book forty of the small, independent, unsigned bands. So now that's five hundred and fifty bands. That just gave seventy five dollars application fee per band.

26:38 Speaker 6: Wow that they don't get back. Now, how many gigs could they have driven to for that seventy five dollars? How many meals could they have bought while they were on the road for that seventy five dollars?

26:47 Speaker 3: Rightactly?

26:48 Speaker 2: That that's where we come in.

26:51 Speaker 6: A lot of these promoters, especially like at the merch table things like that. My opinion is the venues are making a nice up charge on the liquor at the bars.

27:05 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's where they make their money.

27:06 Speaker 6: Off, and especially ticket fees, especially with some of the national acts, even if you're not going through Ticketmaster, Live Nation or any any of the big demons in the ticket industry, even like e Tics or front Gate Tickets, ticket fly, You're still paying convenience fees. You're still paying a third party just for printing a ticket or putting your name on a list, and that that has to stop. Yeah, Like, I understand that venues need an income as well, and I understand that the service fee has a purpose, But why am I paying a nineteen dollars and seventy five cent service fee on a thirty five dollars ticket?

27:47 Speaker 2: Right?

27:48 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is too if you if you buy tickets online through Live Nation, Ticketmaster, it's the same thing spent. Like for a big tour. Very often, you have no idea what that final price is going to be until you get to that last screen and you might be going to see you know, you might think it's one hundred bucks a ticket to see whoever, and then and it's it's set up, so you don't know until you get to that very last screen. All of a sudden, there's all these fees and maybe you bought two tickets for one hundred bucks and it's gonna be two hundred total and uh, or you know, you might be savvy enough to think, wow, it's not gonna be two hundred bucks, this is gonna be more than that.

28:25 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some sort of taxes or whatnot. And you get to that final screen where it's you know, time to click purchase now, and it's like almost twice as much, right, It's it's incredible, I mean like.

28:36 Speaker 6: That, And it it's pricing a lot of the younger generations out of the bigger shows and out of the rooms. So it's also putting our local music scene and our younger music scene in jeopardy because every day we're losing small music venues because people are so disgusted with the way that it's going on at big music venues sure that they're just walking away from live music altogether and just and they're going back to the grassroots, going back to the bar, sit down, have a couple of beers, pay a five dollars cover charge, listen to three or four quality bands, or like in today's case, it's for me fast eight quality bands.

29:15 Speaker 2: It's what twenty bucks to get in the door tonight.

29:17 Speaker 6: If I remember correctly, I believe so yeah, so, and and they do have a bit of a service fee at the venue, and it's like maybe five or six dollars per Yeah, you know, so, which makes sense. You have to you have to help keep the lights on somehow. You have to pay the staff, which is which is respectable. Yeah, but five six dollars service charge is no different than giving your giving your waitress or your bartender a five dollars bill on your way out the door, saying thank you for what you did, right, right.

29:46 Speaker 1: But it's not a situation where you're you end up paying twice what you were expecting.

29:50 Speaker 5: Right yeah, right, Well, seeing that's the glorious thing about all the smaller bands. The band like events is like, come on now, I'm just like tonight, you get how many bands you get to go watch for that Bucky know yeah yeah it's twenty bucks. Like, man, I don't even know these bands. Why I should I have to pay this much? Because hell, you know you have those type of people.

30:11 Speaker 6: Right, I just I just want to take a second and mention all eight bands on the bill.

30:16 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, please?

30:17 Speaker 6: Opening is Diamond Edge, followed by Exception, then Lone Wolf, James Joint Damage, Hero and The Horror Casting Shadows Dead by Wednesday, and then Sepsis will be headlining the party. A reminder, doors are going to open at five, music starts at five thirty, and it's going to go almost continuously until roughly the eleven o'clock hour.

30:41 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, very good.

30:43 Speaker 6: And a tomato tomato, taffaa tafeta. Either way, it's easy. It's easy to find at one ten Western Avenue in Lowell, Massachusetts.

30:53 Speaker 3: I'm ninety nine, it's taffay. We're argument time.

30:59 Speaker 6: We have been having that internal discussion since about Tuesday ourselves.

31:03 Speaker 3: There is no way you.

31:07 Speaker 5: Should definitely hear you should hear our founder Tuesday. She's like she's trying to say to it's kind of like she's calling it taffy sometimes. But to answer your question more so, another reason why we try to do this is, like I said, I've been on the Blue Ridge two years, the first two years of and thank god we didn't have to pay the play. But I've seen everybody else's methods. Ye go in through this as well as the whole the whole way of the thing about it is it sucks because it should not have to go down the way It us Like we were trying to do a sponsorship to that we did do a sponsorship to them, and we made a big giant, you know, drop poster and all that to be put somewhere where they told us to do never got put up.

31:51 Speaker 5: We were supposed to put on the big teleproperters, teleprompters with our picture, you know, our logo. We was actually put upon the you know Savenger Hunt and all that stuff, but every nothing was properly advertised. We want to stop that because if people are paying to help you run this thing, our our thing for legion assoloshould have been up instead of at art. I have pictures of it where it's sitting at our tent site. Because they didn't want to. Nobody was communicating well enough, nobody was doing their job per se.

32:23 Speaker 1: And just to be clear, this is something that you paid for, yes, like out of podcast yes, and what did they have an excuse ready for you?

32:32 Speaker 5: We didn't even say nothing about it, like the next year that we tried to go do the same thing again. A Well, we need to have an insurance policy, especially if you're going to have a vendor setup, whether you're selling selling something or not, you need to make sure that the insurance on it is what a meal.

32:47 Speaker 2: I think it was two.

32:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, that we haven't had an insurance policy on just our of us.

32:52 Speaker 5: One of the set up spot to bring the information to people who love unsigned bands and up and coming talent.

32:58 Speaker 6: And it was literally or just in case like somebody fell down and hit their head on a table or are or like our our ten by ten canopy blew away and hit somebody, which twenty twenty three would would have made a lot of sense for that policy.

33:11 Speaker 5: Right, which I understand it's understand about how some kind of insertience policy, but it's all depending on what you're doing. Like with us, we're more like you come into the you know, coming into a new state, and it's like, hey, here's a welcome center. That's pretty much what we are after we get more stuff established. But even so then we roughly sell most of our stuff online. Yeah, we were for that year, we were going to push to try to get more long lives our dot com up and going and having traffic going to it.

33:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it didn't happen that way because for one, they didn't put our banner anywhere. They didn't have us up on the on the big teleproperties which were supposed to happen, what three times every third band?

33:51 Speaker 2: Okay, three times a day all four days.

33:54 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for every third band on each set of stages. It's supposed to go three times a day. Yeah, we had ever happened.

34:00 Speaker 2: We had a group of fifteen people not a single eye sawt Oh wow.

34:04 Speaker 5: I mean literally, we have friends that we that me and Becca know from going to multiple festivals that we were like, hey, if you see it, sap a picture, text it to me, even though it might take the whole rest of the day to send it to me, because we're around.

34:16 Speaker 7: So many people, not added like another eighty set of eyes just from that individual group of people that I was hanging out with. I was like, keep an eye out, no one.

34:28 Speaker 3: So that's the saying, we.

34:29 Speaker 5: Want to stop that thing because that's something that you can easily be bypassed and that none of us could see because we're either we're in motion to another spot or you know what I'm saying. We want to stop the n needy not necessarily even if it was that's a problem. Sure, we don't want it to happen anymore. And then once we once we establish our own thing of doing our own concert thing, that's where we wanted to be. You want you to come in, live comfortably, drink it the water. Relax, he's talking to your show.

34:58 Speaker 5: We might even have some crew that will help put your equipment up there after you set it up there to where it makes it quicker for you, whatever the whole point about it is. And then at the end we hand you some money. Yep, as long as you're helping to push, promote and all that. Share share share share share that brings a lot more and the whole another thing. Competitiveness bands, that's another thing we want to stop. We want everybody to work together. We want to prove to everybody there's enough out here for everybody to get their their dreams desired, right right.

35:27 Speaker 5: There's no need to sit here and fight like, oh well no, no, we don't need that, man, because they're gonna outshine us tonight. Because my voice is a little rasping. We just did three shows the other night, you know, and I'm hitting you with the you know how you're doing the all faith you know voice. You know what I'm saying, like, oh well, whatever, so be if that's what happened, y'all did a great show tonight.

35:44 Speaker 3: Everybody has an off night. Stop the competitiveness work with each other.

35:48 Speaker 5: Stop saying well they're not just because they're not in our genre and we're doing heavy metal with the growls and screams, and they're they're more clean vocals, like like I saw knock Fest. It was Behemoth, but you're a slip knot bowlbeat.

36:05 Speaker 3: Yeah.

36:06 Speaker 7: I was security for that concert show because I was my first official paid job, and I don't know how many fights I had to stop that night because Bulbat and Yep and.

36:16 Speaker 3: That, and you got a slipknode like come on, And.

36:22 Speaker 7: The biggest thing was like personal from something not themselves. That was the tour where everybody started like fighting each other and like hitting each other with all the spikes on their jackets and everything like that.

36:31 Speaker 3: So I didn't hear about any of this really.

36:33 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it got really bad. I think the show previous to the venue that I was working at was like down in North Carolina or something like that, and people started grabbing their umbrellas and beating each other with it, and we don't, like, that's not a part of our crew.

36:45 Speaker 3: Now.

36:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just crazy what we've all seen experienced in our time of being is because before I met back and she was traveling with our peoples all the time, going to festivals more than me. I didn't start going to festivals until well know, like eight nine years ago. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and fell in love with it. I said, screw one night, or I'd rather pay that money that you would pay to have the VIP event all that stuff and go literally stay there and camp.

37:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's.

37:16 Speaker 5: It makes it that much more memorable, that much more fun that you could meet new people that are in that world. I have just about every friend I've met I've met at an event. Yeah, and I've been really good friends except for like my childhood friends. Yeah, so everybody, like every time I go to a festival, it's a new friend. And I've met a new person in a new state, city, country. You know, it does not matter, you know what I'm saying. That's the whole point. We want to communicate and do this pretty much like how it was back in the day.

37:41 Speaker 5: Hey, Ozzie, you want to come play with you know, Jimmy and you know everybody else. Sure, I'll see you on the next flight. All right, Cool, we get it done. You see what I'm saying, we wanted back to the way back it was. It was much more or easier back in the day than what it is today.

37:54 Speaker 1: Right right, Well, Ozzie might not show up, though I wouldn't depend on him.

37:58 Speaker 3: I mean, well, I mean I guess if he's if he's still having that ant addiction, right.

38:05 Speaker 1: Dirt.

38:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the dirt. Jenny and I watched that.

38:08 Speaker 5: I love that.

38:09 Speaker 3: I love that movie. I fell in love with it.

38:11 Speaker 5: And also, you know, the longest little wristband I ever had was a Moley Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:16 Speaker 3: For the longest time.

38:17 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I'm a big fan of the old I grew up with a band right behind my my grandmother's house.

38:23 Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, so yeah.

38:24 Speaker 5: I mean when I was saying, I would hear them playing everything from clapt Into you know, Disturbed to whatever, like they were just very eglected to what they do.

38:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

38:34 Speaker 1: If you are just joining us, we have members of Legion of Solace here with us live in studio on this Saturday morning. It's a very special Saturday. Tonight is Swarmy Fast at Taffia in Lowell, which looks like now have any of you been there already I have, Yes.

38:47 Speaker 3: You have.

38:48 Speaker 1: It looks from what I saw online, it looks like a nice place.

38:51 Speaker 2: It's it's a nice room.

38:52 Speaker 6: It's very it's a very dark room, Okay, I have, in my opinion, has very much an old speakeasy feel to it.

39:00 Speaker 3: Okay.

39:01 Speaker 6: It's kind of a galley down one side where you'll find the entrance, the ticket window, the bar. There's a permanent merch booth as well that'll will probably expand upon for all the bands.

39:12 Speaker 3: Okay.

39:13 Speaker 6: There is a small sitting lounge off in the corner, so if you need to get away from the loud of the stage area itself, there's some comfy chairs in the corner. Yeah, and then you can move into the actual square concert space as well.

39:25 Speaker 3: Okay.

39:25 Speaker 6: But look, look, room looks to hold I'd say just a gas maybe three to six hundred people comfortably.

39:31 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah, so decent sized room. Absolutely is big stage or.

39:36 Speaker 6: Good sized stage, very good sound quality, a very punctual venue, which I like to see some some venues will be like yeah, show goes to eleven two thirty years, still waiting on the headliner. But where this particular venue is located, it's also around a brewing company and it's in a residential district. They're in a high rise complex with some studios and some loft spaces as well, so they to be very conscious of their time.

40:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I laughed when you said that about the punctuality.

40:05 Speaker 1: And because people in this area around Manchester, probably some people probably remember the bomb Shelter.

40:13 Speaker 3: I don't know if any of.

40:14 Speaker 2: You were, or I have heard stories.

40:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I I remember. I remember playing there and none of the bands that I were in were headliners so to speak. But I remember going on stage at two a m. And you know, being the only ones left in the room. Yeah, So I appreciate a punctual venue as.

40:34 Speaker 5: Yeah.

40:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's some There's a lot of stories about the Bomb Shelter and some of them are some of them are good stories and some some not not not that great.

40:43 Speaker 6: But while we're speaking about Swarmy Fest, I just want to take a moment and mention all of the sponsors yes for the event as well. Not only are we the lead sponsor and co host for the event, we thank our family here at Matt Connorton Unleashed for joining us as well as BPS Records Speed Demon Promotions and our friends over it and h Guitars.

41:04 Speaker 5: Okay, big shout out to those guys, especially for me because they actually worked on my guitar for me. They did a great job on it, brought everything back, helped me out with it because I'm not very I guess smart with the whole internal part of the guitar. So I mean, I had to have them check it out. My thing was making my guitars making some weird sound. So he was like, yeah, that's some dirt and it's like, come to find out, you know, it's called dyslexic wiring somebody.

41:31 Speaker 3: The person that I got it from, and it makes sense.

41:34 Speaker 5: The person I got it from it was a little dyslexic, you know, so all the wiring was just like it's backed up. It's like it's still weird, but it still works. So it's just it's just what it is. But so I mean, big shout out to Guitars, thank you for looking out for me. Guys did an amazing job. We will be also doing a write up about our experience with going to go see the Spot of Guitars. I mean, it just made me feel like you're a part of the family the moment that you walk in. So it's amazing. Big shout out to those guys.

42:01 Speaker 3: And we met them at a show. Was it was it the first Swarmy Fest? You remember we met the guys from an Age Guitars.

42:08 Speaker 7: Yes, it wasn't the first.

42:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were really nice.

42:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, but Paul did mentioned that they were. They were one of the sponsors of the original swarm.

42:15 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago.

42:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think we were the first.

42:18 Speaker 1: The first two was a yeah, might might have been, Yeah, might have been.

42:23 Speaker 3: And that's what we love.

42:24 Speaker 5: That's saying that being able to show that you can come around and work with anybody who is locally doing something like this like Stepsis, like you know, uh, everybody in the sponsorship as well as the venue itself. Yeah, and we see how we all you could all work together and still make them an amazing show and have fun and not be so stressed out of pay to play being on somebody else's time, like strict time was being like going to Blue Ridge like with us, literally we there was there was no venturing around, you know, so we literally had to stay in spot and.

42:54 Speaker 3: Wait before our time.

42:56 Speaker 5: Just we didn't want you to be lost just so happen to get caught up with some fans and you know, waste too much time.

43:02 Speaker 3: Yea. So it's just it's just it is what it is. We like what we're doing and we love what it is.

43:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now are any of you, because Malcolm you mentioned you play guitar, Yes, are any of you currently in bands? Active bands?

43:14 Speaker 5: I'm in between bands. I'm working on trying to get my own one backup. Okay, okay, be able to be touring and traveling. I was doing it that when I uh, when we first initially started this, I was still doing this with Legion of Solids as well as my band. It was it was a twofer to be able to help spread the word along the music community to every other local band that no matter what state we went to, because we were traveling. We used to go up come up here to Ficiate Cantina and you know Hellstore, Maryland.

43:43 Speaker 5: We did the Blue Rays and we went down south to the Outback, the outback atv Park and all that other stuff. So we we we've ventured out of quite a lot of places and a lot of places that we do show. There's a lot of local bands that don't even know that. They're like, there's a Mike Connerton out there that's actually allowing you to go, hey, can you this on your show? And it's not like, well you need to give us a commission for playing your your song on the show, or you need to do this, you need to go through this, you know wormhole right, No, it's just legitly you come to us, we want us to play it.

44:13 Speaker 3: Well, we have two radio shows.

44:14 Speaker 5: We have Dark Mistress, which is the founder, and then we have Corcy Malachi, So you have to radio as well as you can just write any one of us that's in the crew and just say hey, this is a band.

44:25 Speaker 3: I think you guys should check out.

44:27 Speaker 6: We're a far cry from the days where you showed up at the studio with the studio with the forty five in your hands of the envelope.

44:33 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.

44:36 Speaker 1: By the way, we have some folks in the Facebook live chat.

44:38 Speaker 2: So Tuesday faith is is that is our Presa founder?

44:42 Speaker 3: Okay, very good?

44:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tuesday says, thank you for having us and allowing us to tell y'all who we are. Oh, absolutely happy to do it. Angel Don stark Uh says, and I think this is about you, Malcolm. That's one reason I love you lol.

44:56 Speaker 3: No filter about the show that you do. Yeah. Yeah uh.

45:01 Speaker 1: And Angel also said Manson yes uh. Chris Queensberry is in the chat and says yeah, says I keep pushing on supporting local skies.

45:13 Speaker 5: Yes, he's another person who is very hardcore into the the scene. He's actually a part of a mash team okay, and like they actually go out and support just about every band that's around the Central or Virginia area.

45:25 Speaker 2: Shout out to the Icon Pit crew.

45:27 Speaker 5: Icon, I got friend, I got mad Frans Indent and it's another lady who actually makes merch.

45:31 Speaker 3: It's inside the Icon crew.

45:33 Speaker 5: Like, we know quite a few people that are in the crew that we could, you know, reach out to the help out and make it even better.

45:40 Speaker 6: If you have if you have been to Blue Ridge Rock Festival, Incarceration or Sonic Temple and have seen the bed sheet sign pit here flying between two two by one by fours, that's either the Icon Pit Crew or our good friends in the Hounds of helmash team.

45:59 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so yeah, we we tryed Like I said, we try to put ourselves out there as much as far and as deep as we can't into the news community. Let people know, like we have a spot straight strictly for local and up and coming talent. Well, you don't have to go fight through it. You don't have to. If you don't want to upload it on YouTube, you want to play it strictly through us, you can do that that way. It saves you money in stress of like how many numbers do we have today? Wilson, You know what I'm saying exactly, Yeah, like who goes?

46:28 Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't like looking at the incise, but I do because you know, just for my own self. But the thing about this, it is a confusing situation to deal with in general, But why not you know what I'm saying, It's worth it if you know that you can make it that much better for somebody's dreams to come true, whether that dream just be one hundred thousand people hear my music, you know, even if it is through a playback. People saw all music and like we we shared to big shout outs to Ireland metal heads.

46:58 Speaker 5: They allow us coming to their private me and allow me to share my my radio show over there where they can come in and actuallyquest something from over there because we don't know anything there, you know what I'm saying. But we want to be international, so the only way we can do that is actually pretty much dig ourselves into wherever we can.

47:15 Speaker 3: Yeah.

47:16 Speaker 1: Evan Gordon is in the chat and says, love you guys, love my Legion family.

47:20 Speaker 2: You see that is our founder and president's husband.

47:24 Speaker 3: Yes, oh, very good, very good. All right.

47:28 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to say this correctly.

47:29 Speaker 5: Uh.

47:30 Speaker 3: Zia, Oh that's oh, Zia.

47:34 Speaker 2: Shout out to the prep crew at the Cut Live and Gloucester.

47:37 Speaker 3: Okay.

47:37 Speaker 1: Zida says, my friends are on the radio, Love you guys, Bruce Heberlin, Junior, Malcolm and Becca.

47:45 Speaker 3: Miss you guys. Wishing I was there with y'all. Very nice.

47:50 Speaker 7: Uh so you can make it out.

47:53 Speaker 1: Uh. Brandon Morris that's in the chat, said something I can't read on the air, but also throwing the horns just in myles from four HM Clothing I was on the show recently, says, let's see four HM clothing line loves y'all.

48:09 Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice. Oh.

48:11 Speaker 1: Brandon also said this I can read on the air. I can't wait till tonight.

48:15 Speaker 5: Right, very good, hen't wait for the night we both talked about it's going to be a great party.

48:19 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, our friend Maria Banish is also in there and says good morning.

48:23 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, And I just want to make sure I didn't miss anybody in there. Well, we are.

48:30 Speaker 1: The time goes quickly. We are already approaching the hour. So remind us anything anything the three of you want to make sure that we know about tonight and anything that you want to make sure that we know about Legion of Solace before we conclude the segment.

48:43 Speaker 6: Just a reminder, doors open at five, music starts at five thirty continues till eleven. If you want to know more about Legion of Solace, you can find us on Facebook, I believe we are on Twitter, Instagram, and you can also find us at Legionosolace dot com. We have a full merch and a reminder. Any purchase that you make helps us put it right back directly into the local music community and help keep entertainment on the stages in your towns.

49:08 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Leason of solid dot com. You said, did you say the website, yes, w Leason of Solace dot com. Yep, So everybody check that out and uh, thank you all three of you for coming in today. Thank you for having this has been wonderful. Yeah, we'll do it again in the future, definitely, definitely. I would love to be back on here, absolutely absolutely. And then we've got BPS.

49:29 Speaker 3: Records coming up third hour. Is that correct, Jenny, Yes, BPS Records.

49:34 Speaker 5: Big oh, big shoutout, real quick, big shout out to BPS Records, because you know, I saw y'all's podcast the other night and y'all shout out to us, so all, respectfully, we need to shout out shout out back to y'all live on the stream too. Why not send that retort back the same way did you send it to us? Thank you for shouting us out and letting people know who are and that we know we're sponsoring this show when we're here to help.

49:53 Speaker 3: Very nice, very nice.

49:55 Speaker 1: And uh we'll close the segment with the I'm gonna play another Dead by Wednesday track. This is one that because they were on the show with us last week, it all gets to be a blur. Was the last week I think it was last week, the last week of the week. It might have been the week before, but they were here talking about the show tonight. They're gonna be uh, they're gonna be playing today. This is one of the ones that we didn't get to.

50:14 Speaker 2: Uh.

50:14 Speaker 1: This is called uh Mars in Exile. So we'll close out this segment with this. But if you are listening live on Saturday, we have another hour to go. BPS Records coming up next and Legion of Solace.

50:23 Speaker 3: Thank you again.

50:24 Speaker 5: You