Matt Connarton Unleashed: Sepsiss and the third annual Swarmiefest

0:00 Speaker 1: And we have joining us live in studio. Let me

0:02 Speaker 1: get these mics up here. We have the band Sepsis

0:06 Speaker 1: Is with us. Hello everybody, good morning, good morning, and

0:11 Speaker 1: uh okay, let's uh William, let's start with you. Let's

0:13 Speaker 1: everyone introduce ourselves.

0:15 Speaker 2: I am William and I play guitars and I scream

0:19 Speaker 2: and sing in the band.

0:22 Speaker 3: There's somebody here.

0:25 Speaker 1: Gor bell there is.

0:29 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I'm Zachie B and I played BASEB.

0:34 Speaker 3: All right.

0:35 Speaker 4: My name is Melissa Wolf and I am the vocalist

0:38 Speaker 4: for Sepsis.

0:40 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm le and I'm the merch girl.

0:44 Speaker 1: And you're in the Uh you're on the newest single there, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49 Speaker 1: we we played that. Uh was it a couple of

0:51 Speaker 1: weeks ago?

0:51 Speaker 3: Three weeks ago on the show?

0:53 Speaker 6: Thank yeah.

0:54 Speaker 1: It all blurs together. But yeah, so we should talk

0:59 Speaker 1: about Today's a very ashul day. Of course, today is

1:01 Speaker 1: swarmy Fest. Swarmy Fest Day. Swarmy Fest will be later,

1:06 Speaker 1: but uh, let's let's talk about that. Tell tell everybody

1:08 Speaker 1: what that is.

1:10 Speaker 4: So swarmy Fest is today'st weekend Theta Music Hall in Lowell, Massa.

1:20 Speaker 4: I honestly I think it's Teta.

1:23 Speaker 3: We're getting better at this. Everyone's got their own version.

1:25 Speaker 1: Right, Feda makes me think of cheese. I like, to

1:31 Speaker 1: good point, you really do.

1:33 Speaker 4: We've got about eight bands on the bill. We've got

1:36 Speaker 4: Dead by Wednesday, Casting Shadows, Hero and The Horror Exception,

1:43 Speaker 4: Lone Wolf, James, Diamond Edge, and Joint Damage.

1:49 Speaker 1: All right, very good, and uh, now what time does

1:52 Speaker 1: that start?

1:54 Speaker 3: So they started right now? Oh we started swarmy Fest

1:58 Speaker 3: last night.

1:59 Speaker 1: Yeah.

2:00 Speaker 2: No, it starts when people start getting off the plane.

2:03 Speaker 2: It really does, like people start flying in. The cool

2:05 Speaker 2: thing about swormy Fest is not just a local event.

2:08 Speaker 2: I mean, it's really because we don't have enough gas

2:10 Speaker 2: money to go. Oh my god, that there's more people here.

2:15 Speaker 4: Doors are technically at five.

2:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, the doors for the music event are at five.

2:19 Speaker 2: But we really start to show when the planes land,

2:22 Speaker 2: when people get off the plane and start hanging out.

2:24 Speaker 2: We have a pre party show that we have on

2:27 Speaker 2: Friday night, which we had last night with all these

2:29 Speaker 2: people here, karaoke and just shenanigans and dubauchery and hotel

2:34 Speaker 2: parties and stuff like that. But swormy Fest is really

2:37 Speaker 2: cool because it's not just a local event. It's really,

2:41 Speaker 2: if we had to gas money, we would be able

2:43 Speaker 2: to travel to all of our friends and fans everywhere.

2:46 Speaker 2: We just don't not in today's local climate, so we

2:51 Speaker 2: can't tour everywhere. And some of our friends, some of

2:54 Speaker 2: our fans, and most of these people here are like

2:57 Speaker 2: staff members or extended family members to us. They ben

3:00 Speaker 2: before and because we can't get out, they come in,

3:03 Speaker 2: you know, and we all do the event from within

3:06 Speaker 2: and it's all about discovery and sharing music from around

3:09 Speaker 2: New England.

3:11 Speaker 1: And now this is the third one, So what what

3:15 Speaker 1: How is this different from the first two because I

3:17 Speaker 1: assume obviously the event has changed, it's evolved.

3:21 Speaker 3: The major difference is is we've been able to.

3:28 Speaker 2: Have deeper business to business relationships with like n H

3:34 Speaker 2: Guitars playing a deeper role. This year we're doing a

3:39 Speaker 2: raffle and guitar giveaway with them. Legion of Solace is

3:44 Speaker 2: here with us, and we have a new partner, BPS

3:48 Speaker 2: Records that is also here with us helping host the event.

3:53 Speaker 2: And everybody here, whether it's having music dealerships shops or

4:00 Speaker 2: repair shops or podcasts or BPS Records and reader with

4:06 Speaker 2: her venue, everyone here is a main contributor to the event.

4:14 Speaker 5: Uh.

4:14 Speaker 2: And I think that's what's different this year than it

4:17 Speaker 2: passes is the amount of interaction that all of my

4:21 Speaker 2: partners have contributed directly.

4:25 Speaker 1: Right, and this is that Now is this the first

4:28 Speaker 1: one at in Lowell?

4:30 Speaker 2: This is the first time we've ever done it at Lowell.

4:34 Speaker 2: Usually we're across the street at Jewel. And we did

4:39 Speaker 2: the two stage thing last year. Uh, but we had

4:43 Speaker 2: some changes we had to we had to pivot this

4:45 Speaker 2: year and Tifeta's new ground for us, so we're hoping

4:49 Speaker 2: to secure a good relationship with them so we can

4:53 Speaker 2: come back and do it again. The whole point of

4:54 Speaker 2: doing this stuff is so you can do it again.

4:56 Speaker 2: Nobody wants a one night stand, you know what I mean?

4:58 Speaker 1: That would be great when you did the first one.

5:01 Speaker 1: Was that the plan all along to make it an

5:04 Speaker 1: annual thing? Or was it like, let's see how the

5:06 Speaker 1: first one goes.

5:07 Speaker 2: I hope we have a swarmy Fest South. I hope

5:10 Speaker 2: we have a swarmy Fest California. Yeah, I hope we

5:13 Speaker 2: have a swarmy Fest UK. Yeah, someday, you.

5:17 Speaker 4: Know, form the world there you go.

5:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, why not? So that's the long term plan.

5:24 Speaker 1: Do you are there any plans to make it like

5:27 Speaker 1: more than once a year, like do it twice a

5:28 Speaker 1: year or anything like that?

5:29 Speaker 3: Or is that the planner is always to survive?

5:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, making it isn't the Sepsist thing because

5:36 Speaker 2: if you make it, then you're done. So we're always

5:40 Speaker 2: making it. You know, we're working progress and.

5:44 Speaker 3: Music.

5:45 Speaker 2: Modern music is evolving and live music is evolving, and

5:49 Speaker 2: Stepsis is a band that adapts. Sepsis is a band

5:54 Speaker 2: that survives and evolves.

5:56 Speaker 1: Yep.

5:58 Speaker 2: So we have to clean our late check the boxes

6:01 Speaker 2: as we go down. But uh, you know, life comes

6:06 Speaker 2: in waves, and you know it's about getting on the

6:10 Speaker 2: right ferry boat with live entertainment, changing quality over quantity

6:15 Speaker 2: for us. But we're cleaning our plate one thing at

6:18 Speaker 2: a time.

6:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell us too about so to kind of

6:25 Speaker 1: veer away from that for a moment, because a few

6:28 Speaker 1: weeks ago we were talking off here about the new

6:31 Speaker 1: single Bathwater from Sepsis that just came out. When when

6:34 Speaker 1: was that just just very recently?

6:36 Speaker 3: Right? So yeah, we don't we don't come out with

6:38 Speaker 3: music anymore. We just make music.

6:40 Speaker 2: You know, so many so many artists depend on products

6:45 Speaker 2: or gizmos or gadgets or manufacturing or labels or brands

6:53 Speaker 2: to release music. We're a band that just makes music.

6:57 Speaker 2: We don't we're not a forever band. There's no born

7:01 Speaker 2: date or death date. There's just the life date. Right,

7:05 Speaker 2: So we're not waiting for iTunes or a record label

7:09 Speaker 2: to make music or give us permission to release music.

7:14 Speaker 2: So because we don't come out with music anymore, we

7:18 Speaker 2: don't wait for Spotify or ask permission for uploads. When

7:22 Speaker 2: we finish music, we just ask our fans if they

7:24 Speaker 2: want to listen to it, and then we give it

7:26 Speaker 2: to the fans, right right, So it goes there's no

7:29 Speaker 2: sepsist and then a label, and then a manager, and

7:32 Speaker 2: then an A and R guy. It's just we skip everybody,

7:35 Speaker 2: including spot We don't even release music on Spotify anymore.

7:37 Speaker 3: We just give our music directly to our fans.

7:42 Speaker 1: Has that always been the strategy. I'm sure we've talked about.

7:44 Speaker 2: This before, but it is it is now because there's

7:48 Speaker 2: too many jute boxes, there's too many middlemen before our

7:51 Speaker 2: real fl we have authentic fans. I think if you're

7:54 Speaker 2: getting into music is something. If you're a modern musician

7:57 Speaker 2: and you're you're getting into it, now and you're introduced

8:00 Speaker 2: to modern music through technology and through computers. I mean

8:04 Speaker 2: people think that that music comes from gadgets. Children think

8:09 Speaker 2: that music comes from the internet. They think it comes

8:13 Speaker 2: from computers. But music doesn't even come from people.

8:18 Speaker 1: What do you mean music was here before?

8:21 Speaker 2: Music was here before humanity. Okay, yeah, like whales make music,

8:25 Speaker 2: birds make music. Sound and frequency has been here before humans.

8:30 Speaker 2: We're just so big headed we think we made it

8:32 Speaker 2: up right, right, So, but the truth is music belongs

8:36 Speaker 2: to the universe, Matt, not to me.

8:38 Speaker 3: Okay.

8:39 Speaker 2: So that's why Stepsis gives our music away, because it

8:41 Speaker 2: belongs to everybody, yeah, not to not to companies and corporations.

8:46 Speaker 1: There's a YouTuber I don't know if anyone might be

8:49 Speaker 1: familiar with her, uh miss Crystal, who's top music attorney

8:53 Speaker 1: as our YouTube channel, and she talks a lot about,

8:56 Speaker 1: you know, releasing music yourself and not using like you

8:59 Speaker 1: were saying, and you know, the middleman like a record

9:01 Speaker 1: label and everything, because you can. And she's even talked

9:05 Speaker 1: recently in videos about how like you're better off putting

9:09 Speaker 1: it on your own website than using like you said, Spotify.

9:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean opinions very on that no.

9:14 Speaker 2: And you know, if you're being introduced to music today,

9:20 Speaker 2: maybe iTunes is the way to go. But we've been

9:23 Speaker 2: a band since twenty ten. We do whatever we want

9:26 Speaker 2: to do. When we do it, we just do whatever

9:28 Speaker 2: we really want to do, you know, whatever makes us happy.

9:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know when the next are you working

9:34 Speaker 1: on another single?

9:36 Speaker 3: We're working on everything.

9:37 Speaker 2: Music is expensive, and because we're trying to make quality music.

9:43 Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing with the Spotify stuff and

9:46 Speaker 2: the gadgets is me Zach Melissa Lexi. We put in

9:51 Speaker 2: a lot of time and effort and investment to make

9:54 Speaker 2: quality music high and what I mean by that is

9:57 Speaker 2: high resolution music. We mix and master high resolution music,

10:05 Speaker 2: but when we upload it to certain streaming sites like Spotify,

10:09 Speaker 2: they knock the resolution down. So if your career or

10:15 Speaker 2: if your dream depends on quality, that's part of our

10:20 Speaker 2: brand is making crystal clear loud music.

10:25 Speaker 3: That's part of our brand. So that's why we don't belong.

10:29 Speaker 2: Really on those sites because we put in a lot

10:32 Speaker 2: of investment money into creating high quality, high resolution music,

10:38 Speaker 2: and then we upload it on the websites that reduce

10:42 Speaker 2: and fragment and degrade our high resolution music.

10:46 Speaker 3: So if you are, we're career entertainers.

10:50 Speaker 2: So if your career entertainer and your resume depends on

10:55 Speaker 2: presenting quality music, and we showmakers and A and r's right,

11:03 Speaker 2: and they go or advertisers and they go, hey, we

11:05 Speaker 2: love to hear your quality music, and you go, and

11:07 Speaker 2: of course everybody listens to music through Spotify. Now they well,

11:11 Speaker 2: send us your Spotify. We go, no, we don't want

11:13 Speaker 2: to do that. We'd like to send you our high

11:14 Speaker 2: resolution music, and go, well, everybody listens to music on

11:17 Speaker 2: iTunes and Spotify.

11:19 Speaker 3: But the issue with that is bands like us.

11:21 Speaker 2: You know, if you're not a celebrity, they upload your music,

11:24 Speaker 2: they knock the resolution down. My resume depends on me

11:27 Speaker 2: having high resolution music.

11:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so music.

11:31 Speaker 2: The more of the story is is, of course we're

11:34 Speaker 2: working on stuff. It's just expensive to be in Sepsis

11:37 Speaker 2: because we want to create music that we love forever.

11:40 Speaker 3: We're not a fifteen album band. We've got friends of ours.

11:43 Speaker 2: They're super talented and they got a thousand songs out

11:46 Speaker 2: that no one's ever heard.

11:48 Speaker 1: Right.

11:49 Speaker 2: We got friends of mine that are in bands that

11:51 Speaker 2: are much more talented than I.

11:53 Speaker 3: Will ever be.

11:54 Speaker 2: Have a catalog of music that no one will ever hear,

11:57 Speaker 2: and people are still listening to black Light Invasion because

11:59 Speaker 2: it's yeah interesting.

12:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most people, I don't think, I mean, you know,

12:05 Speaker 1: people in the scene, no, people in the industry know,

12:07 Speaker 1: But I don't think the average listener knows what you

12:09 Speaker 1: were just talking about about. How you know, it is

12:11 Speaker 1: a little resolution if you listen to something on YouTube

12:14 Speaker 1: or Spotify. Band Camp, from what I've read, is better

12:19 Speaker 1: about not like when you post things on band camp.

12:22 Speaker 1: It's higher resolution than if you uh been on YouTube

12:27 Speaker 1: or Spotify.

12:28 Speaker 2: And and of course you have to be on everything. Yeah,

12:32 Speaker 2: I mean if if if you're a band and you

12:34 Speaker 2: want to be in a music industry, then you want

12:38 Speaker 2: to be in a system, a system of gizmos and

12:42 Speaker 2: gadgets that are constantly trying to outdo each other with

12:49 Speaker 2: developed with new developers and new apps, and there's a

12:55 Speaker 2: subscription fee for everything that. Oh yeah, so the the

13:00 Speaker 2: modern day music industry is a game of wannabes man

13:04 Speaker 2: that buy and purchase products that manufacture an image of success.

13:13 Speaker 1: Well, but people like that. People like the they love

13:17 Speaker 1: it image, They love it.

13:19 Speaker 3: People like a lot of stuff. Yeah, they like fentanyl too.

13:22 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's true. Well some people.

13:28 Speaker 4: Do.

13:28 Speaker 1: Uh do the rest of you have any thoughts on

13:30 Speaker 1: what William was saying or anything to add to that

13:32 Speaker 1: or it's an interesting subject, I think.

13:36 Speaker 4: Well I can talk a little bit about Bathwater.

13:39 Speaker 1: Yes, since we got to talk about this.

13:41 Speaker 4: Single coming out yea, yeah. Well, Bathwater is a gripping

13:47 Speaker 4: and emotional story about the adult industry, equality and the

13:53 Speaker 4: birthright to our minds, our bodies and message. The song

14:00 Speaker 4: is about men benefiting from women, people that live private,

14:06 Speaker 4: double and triple lives, online, cyberbullying, doxing, It's directly confronting

14:15 Speaker 4: people who have spread rumors about me, oh, people who

14:20 Speaker 4: mistreat and misuse technology and harassment. Yeah, Bathwater is really

14:26 Speaker 4: is a message to men, and that message is that

14:30 Speaker 4: we want the full ownership and restoration of our freedoms

14:35 Speaker 4: to our brains and our own body parts.

14:41 Speaker 1: Very good.

14:42 Speaker 4: Bathwater is also a message to young women and human

14:46 Speaker 4: beings everywhere, and no matter how you choose to look,

14:51 Speaker 4: where you choose to work, or who you choose to

14:55 Speaker 4: sleep with, you are the authors and composers of your

14:59 Speaker 4: own identity in the story of your own life.

15:03 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, very good, very good?

15:06 Speaker 4: Was that?

15:07 Speaker 1: What was that song a long time in the making

15:09 Speaker 1: in terms of of the concept and the you know,

15:11 Speaker 1: because that's heavy stuff. I mean absolutely, yeah, it's not.

15:15 Speaker 1: It's not something you wrote.

15:16 Speaker 3: And justin story, our second album is all about sex. Okay,

15:22 Speaker 3: it's about getting naked. Well ahead, while we look forward

15:28 Speaker 3: to that.

15:30 Speaker 1: Are you so tonight?

15:32 Speaker 7: Are you?

15:33 Speaker 3: Uh?

15:34 Speaker 1: Are you playing? Is bathwater one of the songs you're

15:36 Speaker 1: playing tonight? Is that on the on the list?

15:38 Speaker 3: You have to show up to the show to find out.

15:41 Speaker 1: Will be there? Well, we'll be there, so I'll take

15:44 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna take that as a yes.

15:47 Speaker 3: So no.

15:48 Speaker 2: So somebody taught me this trick last night about set lists.

15:50 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:51 Speaker 2: I've been doing this forever and uh, they told me

15:54 Speaker 2: stop sharing a set list.

15:55 Speaker 3: Really.

15:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, they say people read the set list and if

15:59 Speaker 2: they don't play, if you played the favorite song, they

16:01 Speaker 2: don't show up.

16:02 Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna wait to see.

16:07 Speaker 3: That's what I did though, Yeah, I said, oh man,

16:09 Speaker 3: that's what they do.

16:10 Speaker 1: That makes sense.

16:12 Speaker 3: You know. There's an angle and a method to everything. Now,

16:15 Speaker 3: if you brush your teeth, what's that for playing it tonight?

16:22 Speaker 3: My brain, that's the one that's on my repeat on YouTube.

16:27 Speaker 3: I watched that video all the time. Guess what that

16:29 Speaker 3: song is about.

16:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite desiyes of Empathy, which I've played on

16:35 Speaker 1: the show many.

16:36 Speaker 4: Many great songs.

16:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

16:39 Speaker 3: The song is about breakfast. I'm just kidding. I'm just.

16:44 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's the stomach talking. All right.

16:48 Speaker 2: You could know that, yes, yes, No, Empathy is about

16:52 Speaker 2: the Mount Vernon murders.

16:53 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. Yes, I had no idea.

16:56 Speaker 3: Yeah.

16:57 Speaker 2: So in the yeah, in the song, the screaming part

16:59 Speaker 2: is the murder. Yes, and Melissa sings.

17:02 Speaker 3: The part of the little girl.

17:04 Speaker 2: Oh rys, that's out the bag. Oh it'll be damned

17:07 Speaker 2: yeah right now. Now, now when you listen to it,

17:09 Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh man, totally different. So in the end,

17:11 Speaker 2: you know, when we go just don't ask Jamie. This

17:13 Speaker 2: is like a big gang vocal. Oh Jamie's the girl.

17:16 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, that makes sense.

17:19 Speaker 1: You're playing that tonight.

17:23 Speaker 3: If you come to the show, how long are you playing?

17:28 Speaker 1: Can you tell us the length of your.

17:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be snappy SATs tonight. We want to you know,

17:32 Speaker 2: we wanna want to keep the music going. Yeah, because

17:34 Speaker 2: we've never done this before. We don't want the let's

17:38 Speaker 2: go have a cigarette moment.

17:39 Speaker 1: What do you mean you've never done this this before?

17:42 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I.

17:43 Speaker 2: Mean it's eight it's it's eight bands. We don't do

17:45 Speaker 2: eight bands anymore. It's two thousand and twenty four.

17:48 Speaker 1: I really feel like it's tafaa. I really really feel

17:52 Speaker 1: like it's taffa. Like I'm almost positive and.

17:56 Speaker 4: Bets now we're definitely gonna have to ask them.

17:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I think it's.

18:06 Speaker 1: Every time you say, you're making me crave a Greek

18:08 Speaker 1: I want a Greek salad now.

18:10 Speaker 2: Thinking about in the beginning when we when we had

18:14 Speaker 2: the venue change, I'm like, it's at.

18:16 Speaker 1: Your yeah, see you knows, yeah.

18:20 Speaker 2: And everybody's like, oh, it's at the fet Music Hall.

18:22 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it'sta like fet music Hall. I said, no,

18:28 Speaker 2: Feta cheese. That's right to ask somebody the chat. Somebody's

18:34 Speaker 2: out there.

18:35 Speaker 3: How do you say this?

18:37 Speaker 1: Because taffa means something right, it's is it a color?

18:39 Speaker 1: What is taffaa? Or I don't I don't know.

18:43 Speaker 4: It sounds like.

18:46 Speaker 1: It sounds like yeah, but it looks like a cool

18:48 Speaker 1: room from what I saw online. It looks like a

18:50 Speaker 1: nice place.

18:51 Speaker 2: It does, and it doesn't look like anybody will be shanked.

18:55 Speaker 2: I mean we have these shows.

18:57 Speaker 1: Well that's that's a positive too. Yeah.

18:59 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you got to do your research. We

19:01 Speaker 2: google earth everything now, but we go there. We've driven

19:05 Speaker 2: all over the country, so some of the places we

19:07 Speaker 2: play at are you know yeah.

19:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of my favorite things about going to a

19:12 Speaker 1: show is not getting shanked, right. I love that, Like,

19:15 Speaker 1: at the end of the night, if I haven't been shanked.

19:16 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's a good show.

19:18 Speaker 4: That's important.

19:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a win.

19:24 Speaker 1: What time is the first fan going?

19:28 Speaker 3: Five thirty? Yeah, five thirty.

19:29 Speaker 2: Doors will be at five okay, and then we'll start

19:32 Speaker 2: music at five thirty. I think the incredible Diamond Edge

19:37 Speaker 2: I think is kicking it off. And I'll wait until

19:39 Speaker 2: they've been on here before I believe, right, di'mond Edge,

19:41 Speaker 2: I don't think, So let's get Diamond Edge on. He

19:44 Speaker 2: I love them school name Diamond Edge.

19:47 Speaker 3: That they're fantastic and.

19:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's that you can never get people

19:52 Speaker 2: to set these No one ever wants to go last, right,

19:55 Speaker 2: and nobody wants to go first.

19:56 Speaker 3: I'm like, who wants to go first, you know, Diamond

19:59 Speaker 3: Edge stepped up.

20:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, now who's who's from the area and who

20:06 Speaker 1: who traveled? Because not not all these bands are from

20:09 Speaker 1: around here.

20:09 Speaker 3: Right, I mean from here is New England, you know.

20:14 Speaker 1: So yeah, anybody from outside of New England.

20:17 Speaker 2: Oh obviously what you're saying. No, No, they're all New

20:20 Speaker 2: England bands.

20:21 Speaker 1: Because I think I think last last year we.

20:23 Speaker 3: Do that though something.

20:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, it's tough because the way that

20:29 Speaker 2: the venues work now, it's all pre sale tickets. So

20:32 Speaker 2: it's like post pandemic. If you don't sell pre sale tickets,

20:36 Speaker 2: your band is trash. Because if you're if you're a musician,

20:42 Speaker 2: your venue, your show, your dream is all downstage center, Okay,

20:49 Speaker 2: But in twenty and twenty four, if you're a talent buyer,

20:55 Speaker 2: your dream is on your cell phone and and and

20:58 Speaker 2: chasing tickets and algorithms and demographics, and we don't even

21:02 Speaker 2: talk I don't even even talk about music anymore when

21:04 Speaker 2: we book shows. It's not even about music. It's just

21:07 Speaker 2: about metrics and pre sale tickets. And even if you're

21:11 Speaker 2: a massive band, as you see a lot now, these

21:15 Speaker 2: massive bands are canceling. You go, why these huge bands canceling, Yeah,

21:18 Speaker 2: because they can't sell enough predictable audience members. They want

21:26 Speaker 2: to be able to predict how many audience members you're

21:29 Speaker 2: going to have before soundcheck. So you know, if steps's

21:34 Speaker 2: books a show, I'm talking pre sale tickets, I'm not

21:39 Speaker 2: nobody cares about who physically shows up. If nobody physically

21:42 Speaker 2: shows up to Stormy Fest, nobody cares. The only thing

21:47 Speaker 2: that that talent buyers and venues are interested now, as

21:51 Speaker 2: far as you know, booking bands like us is if

21:54 Speaker 2: you're drawing, if you're not, If you can't draw a

21:57 Speaker 2: crowd and you can't sell pre sale tickets, it doesn't

22:00 Speaker 2: matter what bands you're in, you're out.

22:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's and it's going to continue to be

22:05 Speaker 3: that way. It's going to be tough for some people.

22:09 Speaker 1: We had John MacArthur. I don't know if any of

22:12 Speaker 1: you know John MacArthur. He's a promoter. He's with uh

22:16 Speaker 1: I forget now, Jenny, Do you remember John MacArthur is

22:18 Speaker 1: something musical music collective, New Amster Music Collective. He was

22:23 Speaker 1: talking about how they they promote a lot of shows

22:27 Speaker 1: and conquered and he was talking about the challenge of

22:30 Speaker 1: people waiting until the last minute whether to decide whether

22:32 Speaker 1: or not they're going to go to go to the show.

22:34 Speaker 1: So he runs into a situation where because they have

22:37 Speaker 1: two rooms that they have a smaller room and a

22:38 Speaker 1: bigger room that they work with, and sometimes they'll have

22:40 Speaker 1: someone playing in the smaller room and and there'll be

22:42 Speaker 1: a lot of walk up and they'll be going. He

22:45 Speaker 1: gave me a specific example too. I can't remember who

22:47 Speaker 1: it was, but where all these people show up at

22:50 Speaker 1: the last minute, and they could have put this artist

22:53 Speaker 1: in the bigger room if they'd known precise all these

22:56 Speaker 1: people were coming. But you know, weise we kind of

22:59 Speaker 1: live in an era where people will wait for the

23:00 Speaker 1: last minute.

23:02 Speaker 2: And terrible people have been taking advantage of this for years.

23:06 Speaker 2: Zack will explain it to you, But they've been terrible

23:09 Speaker 2: people have been taking advantage of this, uh for years

23:13 Speaker 2: by having the most privileged people and the richest kids.

23:18 Speaker 3: Just buy the tickets.

23:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, just buy the pre sale tickets, show up with

23:22 Speaker 2: nobody and pray and play at a boutique spot. You know,

23:27 Speaker 2: have the White Glove nine thirty ten o'clock slot. Sure, yeah,

23:32 Speaker 2: you know when you know it should go to the

23:34 Speaker 2: most qualified, drawing hard working, talented people. So you know,

23:40 Speaker 2: talent buyers will see that and go, hey, I know

23:43 Speaker 2: the rich kids will buy.

23:45 Speaker 3: The pre sale tickets. Who cares who shows up? So

23:48 Speaker 3: now you know what I mean.

23:50 Speaker 2: You got rich people playing empty shows and that's why

23:54 Speaker 2: you got guys that can play violin with their teeth

23:57 Speaker 2: living in the subway.

23:59 Speaker 1: Oh I haven't seen that, Zach, You're gonna Williams said

24:02 Speaker 1: you had something to say on that.

24:04 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So like I've seen in other bands where

24:08 Speaker 6: we've been on you know, the pay to play shows

24:11 Speaker 6: where you know they essentially give you a stack of tickets,

24:14 Speaker 6: and you know, your time slot is based on how

24:17 Speaker 6: many tickets you sell. So if you sell all fifty,

24:19 Speaker 6: you're the direct support right before the touring headline and

24:23 Speaker 6: the national act. But you know, if you don't sell ten,

24:25 Speaker 6: they're kicking you out of the room tonight, right. And

24:28 Speaker 6: then you know, in my experience, you know my old bands,

24:32 Speaker 6: we would get ten people. We'd hustle and you know,

24:35 Speaker 6: sell ten tickets and get ten people right in the door,

24:37 Speaker 6: and you know, hand the promoter the money and they're like, well,

24:41 Speaker 6: you only sold the minimum, so you're going on first.

24:44 Speaker 6: And then you know, so this band is you know,

24:47 Speaker 6: headlining tonight because they sold the most tickets. And after

24:50 Speaker 6: our band went, our people left because I don't know

24:52 Speaker 6: these other bands.

24:53 Speaker 3: We don't care about.

24:54 Speaker 6: Them, right, especially since you know, your merits only based

24:57 Speaker 6: on how many tickets you sold. So we're gonna go

25:00 Speaker 6: to the bar down the road, right. So then the

25:02 Speaker 6: rest of the night, that promoter had to look us

25:06 Speaker 6: in the eye as every you know, every other band

25:08 Speaker 6: was playing to an empty, empty room except for the

25:11 Speaker 6: other band.

25:12 Speaker 2: And now people wonder why if it's just sometimes the

25:14 Speaker 2: climate feels so competitive. It is because like every part

25:17 Speaker 2: about music has been like monetized or like in an algorithm,

25:21 Speaker 2: or it's.

25:21 Speaker 3: It's competitive or as a competition.

25:24 Speaker 2: So it's hard, you know, And and truthfully, Swarmy Fest

25:28 Speaker 2: for sure is a great example. Great shows, like really

25:31 Speaker 2: successful shows. It's not just one band that does that.

25:35 Speaker 2: It's not just it's it's true, but it's it's the

25:39 Speaker 2: staff members, it's the band members. It's for stepsist shows.

25:43 Speaker 2: Our audience makes up the show. Yeah, you know, I

25:47 Speaker 2: don't know if bands really understand that that that it

25:50 Speaker 2: takes all the bands that are part of the showcase,

25:53 Speaker 2: and it takes the audience and everybody together to make

25:56 Speaker 2: a great room, to make a great night.

25:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's different, like like he's saying, like with Swarmy Fest,

26:02 Speaker 5: you know, we have talented bands, They put in the effort,

26:06 Speaker 5: they put on a phenomenal performance, like you know, your

26:09 Speaker 5: standard showcase where it's no longer if you are good

26:13 Speaker 5: or can even play, it's just how many tickets to

26:16 Speaker 5: be sold?

26:18 Speaker 3: You know, what are your numbers looking?

26:19 Speaker 5: Like?

26:19 Speaker 3: How many likes do you have on Facebook?

26:21 Speaker 6: How many comments did you last?

26:22 Speaker 3: Pick? Bands at Swarmy Fests actually like each other.

26:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that's that's a good thing to

26:28 Speaker 2: point out as a big difference in contrast to things

26:31 Speaker 2: that we've done before. Is I think we've really made

26:34 Speaker 2: sure this time around that everybody knows each other, everybody

26:38 Speaker 2: likes each other, everyone's been vetted, the fans really like

26:43 Speaker 2: the music, and this time it is a matter of

26:45 Speaker 2: like going around and saying, who really wants to play

26:46 Speaker 2: with us and who wants to play with each other?

26:48 Speaker 3: So much we're seeing bands and multi genres.

26:51 Speaker 2: You know, I can't be effective sometimes, but when you

26:55 Speaker 2: have everybody kind of striving for the same goal and

26:59 Speaker 2: rooting and cheering for each other. Yeah, and everyone's kind

27:02 Speaker 2: of out of the same understanding that we all want

27:04 Speaker 2: to see each other play and do well. Right, then

27:06 Speaker 2: everybody stays for the show and it's not competitive, right

27:10 Speaker 2: And if there and if it is competitive, it's.

27:12 Speaker 3: The kind of competition that we can all appreciate.

27:14 Speaker 1: Well, this healthy competition.

27:15 Speaker 3: It's called good sportsmanship.

27:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everybody wants to wants to do

27:20 Speaker 1: better than everybody else.

27:21 Speaker 3: Competition is great in the scene when you have good sportsmanship.

27:24 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely.

27:25 Speaker 7: One.

27:27 Speaker 1: By the way, Salvator Pan is in the Facebook live

27:29 Speaker 1: chat and says, love you guys, and good morning.

27:33 Speaker 3: So we're coming over. We're going over his house right

27:37 Speaker 3: after this.

27:38 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, and uh, Brandon Morrissette says, hey, y'all,

27:43 Speaker 1: welcome morning.

27:45 Speaker 6: Sleep ahead.

27:45 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he's in the hotel sleeping. Oh, everybody's

27:49 Speaker 2: sleeping right now.

27:50 Speaker 1: Apparently he apparently he woke up.

27:53 Speaker 3: Yeah.

27:55 Speaker 7: Good.

27:55 Speaker 1: So the event So the event actually, so Swarmyfest really

27:58 Speaker 1: started last night, right, you had your yeah kind of

28:00 Speaker 1: the thing going on?

28:01 Speaker 3: Really?

28:01 Speaker 2: Yes, So yeah, I was gonna say, so we have

28:04 Speaker 2: a we have a gaming community and this is the

28:05 Speaker 2: president of our gaming community.

28:08 Speaker 3: It's called Immaculate Connection.

28:10 Speaker 2: Gaming Steps has created a long time ago with Melissa,

28:13 Speaker 2: So it's kind of crazy. A bunch of these folks

28:16 Speaker 2: here are from all over the country. But this is

28:19 Speaker 2: my friend Sean and he's also known as I CG

28:22 Speaker 2: for Life, and he is the president of our gaming community.

28:25 Speaker 3: Melissa founded our community.

28:27 Speaker 2: So really the party started Thursday when we picked when

28:30 Speaker 2: we picked up Sean from from Logan. But on Friday,

28:34 Speaker 2: you know, partners, fans, the band, everybody that's that's helped

28:41 Speaker 2: building the event, we all get together before the event

28:45 Speaker 2: because it's hard to hang out. We figured out doing

28:49 Speaker 2: this years before that. If we all try to hang

28:52 Speaker 2: out on show day, it's kind of like how you

28:54 Speaker 2: doing and we're all pushing gear around.

28:56 Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, you're you're all busy.

28:58 Speaker 3: So we all as we get better at this every year.

29:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've made adjustments and we've all figured out we

29:04 Speaker 2: need a couple more days, Yeah, to hang out and rest.

29:07 Speaker 3: And be together. It's a great idea, you know, collect

29:10 Speaker 3: the value.

29:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what is a game? For those who don't know,

29:14 Speaker 1: what is a gaming community? What does what does that mean?

29:16 Speaker 3: Exactly do you want?

29:17 Speaker 7: You want?

29:18 Speaker 3: Gaming community is Mike get.

29:20 Speaker 1: You got to lean right in.

29:21 Speaker 7: Being a part of a gaming community is like having

29:23 Speaker 7: some of your greatest teammates and the most impactful action

29:26 Speaker 7: that you can have. It's entertainment that you can have

29:28 Speaker 7: right at home and you don't have to travel very far.

29:30 Speaker 7: We prefer to play on Xbox and we gather up

29:32 Speaker 7: say every Wednesday and Friday, and then we have a

29:34 Speaker 7: lot of pickup games on Saturday too, and it's just

29:36 Speaker 7: absolutely wild. The same excitement that we have in the room,

29:39 Speaker 7: we get to share that together running in our living rooms.

29:41 Speaker 7: Some Xbox Live customer, but I hang out with stepsuspand

29:44 Speaker 7: I prefer to play with entertainers.

29:46 Speaker 3: Oh all right, thank you, thank you. It's ICG for life.

29:49 Speaker 3: Very good.

29:50 Speaker 2: So we do games giveaways events just like in Sepsis.

29:53 Speaker 1: Yeah.

29:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have merch and actually, like this in one

29:56 Speaker 2: of the shirts he's got on. Now, some of these

29:57 Speaker 2: guys have as you can see, High is a gaming

30:00 Speaker 2: community person. Okay, all right, if you like, I go

30:05 Speaker 2: to a Macca connection gaming dot com.

30:07 Speaker 1: There you go. Now, how long has that been a thing?

30:09 Speaker 3: H wow?

30:12 Speaker 1: Now not not longer than the band y.

30:15 Speaker 2: No, well so we we we learned it in another

30:19 Speaker 2: gaming community. I think we've I think that this will

30:21 Speaker 2: be our seventh year doing it.

30:23 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, been quite some time. And how many like,

30:27 Speaker 1: how many people are in it?

30:28 Speaker 2: You know, it's a revolving door. It's it's gaming, so

30:31 Speaker 2: it's easy to quit.

30:32 Speaker 1: So people come and go, yeah, yeah, no, it makes sense,

30:35 Speaker 1: that makes sense. No, that's cool. That's cool if you

30:38 Speaker 1: are just joining us. Sepsis is here, of course, talking

30:41 Speaker 1: about Swarmy Fest tonight at did we agree it's Taffia?

30:45 Speaker 1: Did we all agree?

30:48 Speaker 3: Another one? We can agree?

30:49 Speaker 4: I'll try and remember.

30:50 Speaker 1: That we want we want, we want people to be

30:53 Speaker 1: able to find it.

30:53 Speaker 2: We do and right right they can't you but that's okay.

30:58 Speaker 1: And and and we have no idea what Sepsis is playing.

31:01 Speaker 1: They won't tell us, so you have to show up

31:03 Speaker 1: for that.

31:03 Speaker 3: We're playing music. We're gonna play all. We're gonna play

31:06 Speaker 3: all by Wednesday song.

31:07 Speaker 1: If you have I've been I've been playing. I opened

31:10 Speaker 1: the show today with because they were on last week

31:14 Speaker 1: that their cover of No Easy Way Out. If you

31:16 Speaker 1: listen to that.

31:18 Speaker 3: I'm addicted to it. I am.

31:20 Speaker 2: I'm addicted to it, and I've been hassling them all week.

31:24 Speaker 2: I've been doing what people are doing to me. You know,

31:26 Speaker 2: are you gonna play Bathwater? I've been doing that to them.

31:28 Speaker 2: Are you guys gonna play no easy way out?

31:30 Speaker 3: I assume, I hope. So they have to. I so

31:34 Speaker 3: this this. I didn't know that they could do this

31:36 Speaker 3: whole clean singing thing. Yeah. You know, I've been listening

31:39 Speaker 3: to Dead by Wednesday for a long time, and this

31:42 Speaker 3: whole clean singing thing is I'm looking forward to hearing

31:48 Speaker 3: them do more of it.

31:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been. I've been trying to get a

31:51 Speaker 2: feature with them for years and years. I said, we

31:53 Speaker 2: should really do a collaboration.

31:54 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wouldn't Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I'm when they

32:00 Speaker 1: used to have the two singers. I think they were

32:02 Speaker 1: cousins back in the day, like when they did Pawns

32:05 Speaker 1: and everything.

32:05 Speaker 2: He did have two singers. Although I love this line up.

32:08 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is it for me. Yeah, I love

32:11 Speaker 2: you see the Wasteland video. Yes, I'm a video guy.

32:15 Speaker 1: We talked about that during the interview because they look well,

32:18 Speaker 1: oh no, I'm sorry, Actually no, that was off air.

32:20 Speaker 1: I was talking with them about the video afterward. That's right,

32:23 Speaker 1: because I was saying, how like it looks like they.

32:25 Speaker 2: I don't know if they went to Burning Man or

32:27 Speaker 2: whatever they did, but it is the video they were at.

32:31 Speaker 1: It Apparently it was like a happy accident. They were

32:33 Speaker 1: at a festival and they decided they were going to

32:35 Speaker 1: shoot this video and they got everybody participating, and they

32:39 Speaker 1: made it looks like it looks like a trailer for

32:41 Speaker 1: a Mad Max movie.

32:43 Speaker 3: Can do that.

32:44 Speaker 1: It looks like it was it was really expensive. And

32:46 Speaker 1: they said no, it just it just came together and

32:49 Speaker 1: and everyone kind of participated in it and it was

32:52 Speaker 1: almost so planned. It does right, It does. I mean,

32:55 Speaker 1: I mean, unless they were just telling me that to

32:58 Speaker 1: feed the Lord, I'll go.

33:00 Speaker 3: With it either way. I know.

33:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it seems. It seemed true when

33:06 Speaker 1: they when they were telling me about it, they were like, yeah,

33:08 Speaker 1: just kind of came together.

33:09 Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, I discovered a lot of music

33:13 Speaker 2: through MTV.

33:14 Speaker 3: Some of you guys don't know.

33:15 Speaker 2: What that is, but that but that that's why I.

33:18 Speaker 3: Love the music videos. That's why we still do the

33:21 Speaker 3: music video stuff.

33:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, some people think that. Some people think there

33:25 Speaker 1: are no videos anymore. And and there's actually a lot

33:28 Speaker 1: of people who say, you know, you artists should skip it,

33:32 Speaker 1: but we don't.

33:33 Speaker 3: We don't.

33:34 Speaker 1: I love video.

33:36 Speaker 5: Story.

33:37 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's not one for Bathwater yet, right, is

33:41 Speaker 1: there gonna be?

33:42 Speaker 3: There's gonna be. We're thinking about porn Hub.

33:45 Speaker 2: Oh all right, we're thinking about releasing it on adult networks.

33:49 Speaker 2: Uh huh, okay, no, I'm kidding, but but we we

33:53 Speaker 2: we do think it will be what we want to

33:55 Speaker 2: do with it won't be Facebook friendly. Yeah, it's really

33:59 Speaker 2: difficult cult now. It's getting harder on YouTube.

34:04 Speaker 3: You know. We do all the podcasts and stuff.

34:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got a terrible mouth and we're always

34:08 Speaker 2: talking about naked stuff and like, oh, it's getting difficult.

34:11 Speaker 1: You should plug that the podcast or podcasts.

34:13 Speaker 2: So so, honeycomb hide Out will be returning in some

34:17 Speaker 2: form along with Swarm TV, but they will probably be

34:21 Speaker 2: combined and we won't get to it probably till next year. Okay,

34:25 Speaker 2: so we're all taking a break from podcasting for a while. Yeah,

34:28 Speaker 2: but you can catch my show.

34:29 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, because I know you're you've been.

34:31 Speaker 3: Yes, William Versus the World?

34:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, every weekday at seven I'll be angry, and

34:36 Speaker 2: I'll have plenty of coffee.

34:37 Speaker 1: You do that five days a week, every week five.

34:39 Speaker 3: I do it every single day. Oh, I didn't realize. Yes,

34:42 Speaker 3: I'm so.

34:43 Speaker 2: I'm kind of trapped right now because I'm doing the

34:45 Speaker 2: hundredth episode. But the hundredth episode is special, and I've

34:49 Speaker 2: got to have all kinds of people on it. So

34:51 Speaker 2: I have to have all the right some kind of

34:54 Speaker 2: frozen right now because I have to have all these

34:56 Speaker 2: people one with me special one hundredth episodes.

35:01 Speaker 3: You got to go crazy. I'm trying to break the

35:03 Speaker 3: law and you don't.

35:05 Speaker 1: Just to clarify too, you don't just talk about music

35:07 Speaker 1: on that.

35:08 Speaker 2: No, it's William versus the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, seriously,

35:12 Speaker 2: so it's me versus everybody.

35:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, music, technology, yet the police, I go off on everybody.

35:20 Speaker 6: Yeah, horrible restaurant review.

35:21 Speaker 1: One time, I think, oh really, oh no kidding.

35:24 Speaker 3: You've given me a shout out a few times. I've

35:26 Speaker 3: gotten in there and seen you.

35:27 Speaker 2: I'm really, I'm, I'm I'm. It's pretty much nothing without

35:31 Speaker 2: you guys showing up. A lot of the people here

35:33 Speaker 2: show up, yeah, just to help me, uh, to encourage me. Yeah, yeah,

35:39 Speaker 2: so you know really again, like without uh, without the

35:42 Speaker 2: people in the chat, it would be impossible to do it.

35:44 Speaker 3: So I appreciate all y'all.

35:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Well we are. Yeah, we're

35:50 Speaker 1: kind of getting to the top of the hour, so

35:51 Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe we'll we'll wrap up this segment and

35:53 Speaker 1: get some other folks on on the mic. But yes,

35:56 Speaker 1: remind us what should we what do you want to

35:59 Speaker 1: make sure we know about tonight?

36:03 Speaker 3: I mean, geez to show up five.

36:08 Speaker 4: We're gonna have some cool grab bags and giveaways too.

36:11 Speaker 2: There's a guitar raffle and giveaway through NH Guitars that

36:15 Speaker 2: Legion to Solace is presenting again. BPS Records will be

36:20 Speaker 2: opening the show and announcing bands. Excellent, They'll be running

36:23 Speaker 2: around the venue. We've got a grab bag at the end.

36:27 Speaker 2: Uh a killer after party. I'm not gonna speak for

36:32 Speaker 2: everybody because they're gonna come on and and there's there's

36:34 Speaker 2: other features and different things happening.

36:37 Speaker 3: So I'll let them talk about it, but just show

36:39 Speaker 3: up and be pleasant.

36:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, outstanding, outstanding and uh yeah, come say hi

36:45 Speaker 1: to you know. Jenny and I will be there of

36:46 Speaker 1: course and looking forward to that and uh I think

36:50 Speaker 1: what we'll do is, since we talked about it and

36:52 Speaker 1: it's your newest single, we'll close with Bathwater. We'll close

36:54 Speaker 1: the segment with bath water.

36:57 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and hear you on the radio.

37:00 Speaker 1: Oh, we should we should plug the website. We should

37:02 Speaker 1: plug the website too. I don't think we did that.

37:06 Speaker 4: Dot com dot com spelled the S E P S

37:09 Speaker 4: I S S dot com.

37:11 Speaker 1: By the way. I'm sure now that's you're spelling. I'm

37:13 Speaker 1: sure I've asked you this before, but I can't remember.

37:15 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever gotten, like, spelled your name wrong on

37:17 Speaker 1: a flyer?

37:17 Speaker 3: Or are the we are the most Yeah? I mean,

37:21 Speaker 3: I mean I feel.

37:22 Speaker 4: Like it happens to everybody, though, Yeah.

37:24 Speaker 3: Especially us.

37:25 Speaker 2: We get called and mispronounced every weird name and you

37:31 Speaker 2: step kids.

37:34 Speaker 3: Are you kidding? We've gotten everything?

37:40 Speaker 1: Yeah?

37:41 Speaker 3: Every Yeah.

37:46 Speaker 2: The only reason why and we were talking about earlier

37:49 Speaker 2: you said something about titles or we didn't name the

37:53 Speaker 2: band for any reason. It's just just just what it's called. Yeah,

37:56 Speaker 2: so it's just so it's searchable.

37:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we I remember in the previous conversion we

38:01 Speaker 1: talked about.

38:01 Speaker 3: That disappoint anybody else? Oh?

38:03 Speaker 1: I remember why we talked about that before because I

38:05 Speaker 1: mentioned my dad is a big fan of you, except

38:09 Speaker 1: except the name. And I think, and I don't think.

38:11 Speaker 1: I don't think the name bothers him. I think he's

38:12 Speaker 1: just being funny about it. But he but he tells me,

38:14 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, Maddie, you know, I don't know about

38:16 Speaker 1: the name, but I really will have.

38:17 Speaker 2: A problem with and then and then they'll and then

38:20 Speaker 2: they'll go play Cannibal Corpse.

38:22 Speaker 3: And slip not. I said, we've got a problem, and

38:26 Speaker 3: you slipknot right right, come on?

38:31 Speaker 1: And and I'm like a lot of those uh, And

38:33 Speaker 1: unlike a lot of those bands, your logo is decipherable

38:36 Speaker 1: and everything, you know, because a lot of those bands,

38:38 Speaker 1: we can't even you can't even read the logo.

38:40 Speaker 3: People don't like that about us Cannibal Corpse.

38:42 Speaker 7: Uh.

38:43 Speaker 1: When I when I used to work at years ago

38:45 Speaker 1: for those who remember Strawberries and then eventually oh wow,

38:49 Speaker 1: but but I.

38:50 Speaker 3: Just got all everybody over a thirty five. But I

38:53 Speaker 3: know that's because you are.

38:54 Speaker 7: I just.

38:56 Speaker 1: I just remember the nightmares I would have on like

38:59 Speaker 1: after shipment day but away the Cannibal Corpse CDs and

39:01 Speaker 1: seeing some of those album covers.

39:03 Speaker 2: Remember when they were like crushing iced tea tapes and

39:06 Speaker 2: stuff and nw A.

39:07 Speaker 1: You guys don't remember that way back, Yeah, yeah, when

39:11 Speaker 1: everybody was mad at I see.

39:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just played with them, Zach's favorite band. We

39:16 Speaker 2: just played with them at rock Fest Two Live Crew from.

39:20 Speaker 3: The US A. You know, yeah, yeah, I didn't know.

39:23 Speaker 2: They were all the booty shaken and all of that

39:26 Speaker 2: back then, and they banned.

39:27 Speaker 6: You want to talk about a band that has like

39:29 Speaker 6: more experience with First Amendment, you know, there's yeah, a

39:32 Speaker 6: band that have been censored by a court.

39:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, yeah, yeah, I didn't know they were

39:38 Speaker 1: even still doing anything.

39:40 Speaker 3: We played with those guys a couple of months ago

39:42 Speaker 3: in Rockfest.

39:42 Speaker 2: They had a bigger crowd than any rock and roll

39:45 Speaker 2: band in the entire venue.

39:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, made Jelly Roll look like Swiss role.

39:53 Speaker 2: No, it was crazy to Live Crew is a it

39:57 Speaker 2: was a rock and roll, a heavy metal FESTIV. Two

40:00 Speaker 2: Live Crew had the biggest crowd I think we saw

40:04 Speaker 2: at the entire festival.

40:05 Speaker 1: What's his name, Luther, Uncle Luke, Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow.

40:10 Speaker 3: They got mad at the guy because he likes bums, so.

40:14 Speaker 1: Did sir mix a lot. Nobody got mad at him.

40:16 Speaker 3: He likes big butts and he can't lie. That's right,

40:18 Speaker 3: that's right.

40:19 Speaker 1: Nobody got mad at him, not right, Yeah, yeah, all right,

40:23 Speaker 1: So we'll end with bathwater and then we're gonna get

40:25 Speaker 1: some other folks on the mic. But really looking forward

40:28 Speaker 1: to tonight. I have no idea what you're playing because

40:30 Speaker 1: you wouldn't tell me, but no, looking forward to it,

40:34 Speaker 1: looking forward to it.

40:34 Speaker 3: All right, here it is.

40:35 Speaker 1: This is the newest single from Stepsis. This is Bathwater.