Matt Connarton Unleashed: Matt Litzinger

0:13 Speaker 1: Poets say love is gonna save us. Most of the time, I.

0:30 Speaker 2: Don't feel like I'm worse saveding, just a dum screwed

0:37 Speaker 2: up kid.

0:40 Speaker 3: But you gave me home. You spoken to my darkness,

0:48 Speaker 3: and you showed me the light.

0:54 Speaker 2: In your glow, I'm seeing for the first time.

1:02 Speaker 3: There's still food on the fire.

1:07 Speaker 2: There's a fire burning in my ches, helping me to

1:16 Speaker 2: see the truth.

1:21 Speaker 3: In spite of all my anxious feeds.

1:28 Speaker 2: This love has made me rizled.

1:33 Speaker 1: Keep it burning, war to keep it burning.

1:43 Speaker 3: More.

1:49 Speaker 2: I am alive and nothing's.

1:53 Speaker 3: Gonna change that.

2:02 Speaker 2: A living fear of showing who I really am and fall.

2:12 Speaker 3: In apart like a spy. You slip past my defense

2:22 Speaker 3: is and you found me out. Piece by piece. You're

2:33 Speaker 3: taking off this army. I don't need it now.

2:43 Speaker 2: There's a fire burning the matches, and.

2:51 Speaker 3: You're the one that put it there.

2:57 Speaker 2: It wasn't lit by anyone. No one has loved me

3:06 Speaker 2: with that, butch Cave.

3:08 Speaker 1: You keep it burning, war, keeping burning, world.

3:24 Speaker 3: There's a fire burning in.

3:27 Speaker 2: My chest, helping me to see the truth in spite

3:39 Speaker 2: of all my anxious fees.

3:45 Speaker 3: Just love has made me.

3:47 Speaker 1: Rezled, keeping burning, Oh.

3:56 Speaker 3: You keep it burning.

4:21 Speaker 4: Matt Litzinger here with us live in studio. So I

4:24 Speaker 4: love by the way, thank you for bringing us, and

4:25 Speaker 4: I'm gonna for people watching online. I'm gonna hold up

4:27 Speaker 4: the CD. There we go, this CD you brought us,

4:32 Speaker 4: Keep it Burning? And that was the title track, of course,

4:34 Speaker 4: that we opened the show with. Where did you record this?

4:37 Speaker 1: So?

4:38 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the cool things about this project I

4:39 Speaker 5: recorded it at my home studio. I really enjoy the

4:44 Speaker 5: process of, like watching the songs evolve. Sometimes studio time

4:48 Speaker 5: doesn't really like work well with that because you're kind

4:50 Speaker 5: of locked in. You know, you've got these hours of

4:52 Speaker 5: these days, right, and so these songs have kind of

4:54 Speaker 5: evolved over the past six nine months as I've worked

4:57 Speaker 5: on different demos for them leading up to it, and

4:59 Speaker 5: working at home just helps to make that a little easier.

5:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool to have that freedom and flexibility to

5:04 Speaker 4: do it that way. Have you always recorded that way

5:07 Speaker 4: or have you ever have? Yeah?

5:08 Speaker 5: Mostly just had a necessity with this project. I did

5:12 Speaker 5: raise money on Kickstarter to help fund it. Yeah, and

5:14 Speaker 5: so I thought about, like, do I want to get

5:15 Speaker 5: studio time involved with that? And I really like the

5:19 Speaker 5: process of, you know, wearing the different hats all the

5:21 Speaker 5: way down the process. So yeah, writing the songs, engineering it,

5:24 Speaker 5: mixing it all the way through.

5:25 Speaker 4: So that's an advantage too, that you enjoy doing all

5:28 Speaker 4: that part, because a lot of musicians don't like doing

5:30 Speaker 4: that part, right. Yeah.

5:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, my brain like, I like, you have to kind

5:33 Speaker 5: of turn off the right side, left side thing, but

5:35 Speaker 5: I like to eventually turn that off and move into

5:37 Speaker 5: more of the engineering, you know, make it sound good

5:39 Speaker 5: side of things.

5:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Is this the first full length album

5:43 Speaker 4: that you've released is.

5:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's that's a big one for me. It's

5:46 Speaker 5: been like EPs and singles up until this point.

5:49 Speaker 4: What made you decide to do a full length? Did

5:52 Speaker 4: it just seem like time.

5:53 Speaker 5: Or yeah, time would be the easiest way to say it.

5:56 Speaker 5: So I had I'd had two kids over the past

5:59 Speaker 5: like six eight years, and so it's been just bandwidth

6:03 Speaker 5: has been Okay, we can do a single, we can

6:04 Speaker 5: do a little project here or there, but some of

6:07 Speaker 5: those songs are stacked up and I'm happy with a

6:08 Speaker 5: lot of those. So I sat down in February wrote

6:11 Speaker 5: a couple more songs that I was happy with, and

6:13 Speaker 5: then I had a collection of them and I was like,

6:14 Speaker 5: it just makes sense. Sure I can carve out time

6:16 Speaker 5: this year to work on a whole project.

6:18 Speaker 4: And who else is on the album with you? Or

6:20 Speaker 4: is it all you?

6:21 Speaker 5: So this is all me except for on Gather Me Up.

6:24 Speaker 5: My wife plays violin, Oh a big thing because she's

6:27 Speaker 5: really great violinist, but hardly played, so it takes a

6:30 Speaker 5: lot of convincing. So it's great to get hurt on

6:32 Speaker 5: that track.

6:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Do you play out a lot? Do

6:35 Speaker 4: you do a lot off too? Yeah?

6:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, so not anything like ticketed, but I play bars

6:39 Speaker 5: and stuff around town quite a bit.

6:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. The great thing about you know what you do,

6:43 Speaker 4: you know, just you and a guitar is obviously that

6:46 Speaker 4: opens up a lot of opportunities for where you can play.

6:48 Speaker 4: And so yeah, you know, so someone in your position,

6:50 Speaker 4: you've always got options as far as venues and so forth,

6:53 Speaker 4: whereas you know, like in the third hour today we

6:55 Speaker 4: have vigil coming in. I don't know if you know them,

6:57 Speaker 4: but they're loud and they're heavy, and you know, so

6:59 Speaker 4: of course for someone in their position, you know, they've

7:02 Speaker 4: only got so many options as far as venues, but

7:05 Speaker 4: you can probably play anywhere, and I bet You've played

7:07 Speaker 4: some interesting place for sure.

7:08 Speaker 2: Yeah.

7:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in town, Like I'm thinking small rooms

7:12 Speaker 5: where it's just like, you know, you're kind of in

7:14 Speaker 5: a corner or a bigger, bigger venues. But yeah, I

7:16 Speaker 5: played everything from like kind of college level arena areas

7:20 Speaker 5: now all the way down to like small bar gigs.

7:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. If you do, you stick to New England

7:26 Speaker 4: or have you gotten out of Yeah, and.

7:27 Speaker 5: Just mostly southern New Hampshire right now. So originally from Pennsylvania,

7:30 Speaker 5: went to school in Indiana and then have lived here

7:32 Speaker 5: for the past like ten years. Oh okay, and so yeah,

7:35 Speaker 5: southern New Hampshire mostly Manchester. I play some out towards

7:38 Speaker 5: the Sea coast a little bit like when Sawbelly was

7:40 Speaker 5: out there. I'd go out and play out that way.

7:41 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, what brought you to New Hampshire?

7:44 Speaker 5: My wife? Yeah, so she's from Chester. We met in

7:46 Speaker 5: uh in school.

7:47 Speaker 4: Oh, in Indiana, came back here here. Oh cool, cool, excellent, excellent.

7:51 Speaker 4: Well I'm doning here you play live? You want to

7:53 Speaker 4: play something for sure?

7:54 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, So I'll start out. This first song is

7:56 Speaker 5: called Restless Wings. There's a song about I tend to

8:00 Speaker 5: be kind of a homebody, and so this song is

8:03 Speaker 5: about watching somebody who you love need to go off

8:07 Speaker 5: and like travel a world, you know, so I really

8:09 Speaker 5: enjoy that, and trying to come to grips with the

8:11 Speaker 5: fact that, like they still love you when they're out there,

8:13 Speaker 5: even though like you don't hear from them as often.

8:14 Speaker 5: And so this song just kind of reflects some of

8:16 Speaker 5: those ideas.

8:17 Speaker 4: All right, very good, Matt Litzinger, live in studio with us.

8:37 Speaker 2: Here we are again saying ah goodbyes. And then and

8:42 Speaker 2: how you will be far above the clouds. I'll be

8:46 Speaker 2: looking u at the stars de night, wondering how long

8:51 Speaker 2: to come back around. It's a mystery to a man

9:04 Speaker 2: like me, how you set your sights on distant shores.

9:09 Speaker 2: Each time you return, I see your fires burned, and

9:14 Speaker 2: it's not long before you're calling.

9:16 Speaker 3: Out for more.

9:18 Speaker 2: Your restless ways get lighter. Look in that the sky.

9:26 Speaker 2: It's when you roll home. That's when you're most love.

9:34 Speaker 2: My grounded hard it wishes you could stay. I wondered, dude,

9:44 Speaker 2: you miss me when you fly, and as I wait

9:59 Speaker 2: for you to return to me, I wonder if you

10:02 Speaker 2: feel pull of my heart on yours. That's a line

10:07 Speaker 2: bed thoughts are a mess, dream you walking back through

10:12 Speaker 2: my door. My bristless weeks get lighter looking that the

10:21 Speaker 2: sky's when you mess when you're most allahah, my grounded

10:32 Speaker 2: hard it wishes you could stay. I wondered, dude, you

10:42 Speaker 2: miss me when you fly.

10:46 Speaker 3: Away.

10:55 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to stay with me here, I

11:03 Speaker 2: just want to know this love story. When you're out there,

11:13 Speaker 2: you're restless weeks, get lighter.

11:18 Speaker 6: Look in that the sky because.

11:22 Speaker 2: When you row mess, when you're most alive, grounded hardy

11:32 Speaker 2: wishes you could stay. I wandered, dude, you miss me when.

11:42 Speaker 6: You fly away?

11:56 Speaker 4: Beautiful?

11:57 Speaker 5: That was Guardians I think so much.

11:59 Speaker 7: Oh that was gorgeous.

12:00 Speaker 4: If you are, you're.

12:01 Speaker 7: Getting love in the chat room already loving this song.

12:04 Speaker 7: Can't wait to hear more.

12:05 Speaker 4: Says Jay. Excellent, excellent, Yes, if you are just joining us,

12:09 Speaker 4: We have a Matt Litzinger with us alive in studio

12:12 Speaker 4: this morning. Oh yeah, Jay Bellow of course from the

12:14 Speaker 4: band Chasing the Devil and U. But they're doing some

12:17 Speaker 4: big things, so very very proud of them. We've played

12:21 Speaker 4: a bunch of their music on the show absolutely and

12:23 Speaker 4: Jay has always been very supportive of the show. Too,

12:26 Speaker 4: so we appreciate that. But yes, Matt Litzinger is here

12:28 Speaker 4: with us in studio, and is that I assume that

12:31 Speaker 4: song is on the album or on there? Yeah it is, yeah, excellent, excellent.

12:35 Speaker 4: Do you play when you play out? Do you do

12:37 Speaker 4: long shows? You probably know a lot of songs. I

12:39 Speaker 4: assume you can do like three hour shows.

12:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, three hours is kind of my well, four hours

12:44 Speaker 5: is now my max. But so yeah, I played a

12:46 Speaker 5: couple of farmers market gigs that were four hours.

12:48 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding.

12:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like like so I run too,

12:51 Speaker 5: and so it's kind of like that where you start

12:53 Speaker 5: out and you're like, I don't know if I could

12:54 Speaker 5: ever do three miles, and like you do that and

12:56 Speaker 5: you're like, I don't know if I could ever do

12:57 Speaker 5: six That sounds crazy, And I feel like playing gigs

13:00 Speaker 5: is kind of the same. You're like, the first three

13:02 Speaker 5: hour gigs sucks, and then like you play a bunch

13:04 Speaker 5: more and you're like, oh, this is this is doable,

13:06 Speaker 5: And then you play a four hour on you're like,

13:07 Speaker 5: that's not that much different than three interesting.

13:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you find that running helps you with your

13:11 Speaker 4: singing in terms of your breath?

13:13 Speaker 5: Then yeah, I've never really actually thought about that part

13:17 Speaker 5: of it, but I'm sure it does. Like just like that,

13:19 Speaker 5: the fitness element of it helps too, and like some

13:23 Speaker 5: level of physical fitness. I broke a rib a long

13:25 Speaker 5: time ago. Oh no, on capacity isn't what it used

13:27 Speaker 5: to be. Really, hopefully that helps keep that up a

13:29 Speaker 5: little bit.

13:30 Speaker 4: Yeah.

13:30 Speaker 5: The big thing with running is like it's just an

13:32 Speaker 5: idea generator because like, similar to being in the shower,

13:34 Speaker 5: like a lot of ideas hit me on a run

13:37 Speaker 5: for a song or for like a part that I'm

13:38 Speaker 5: just stuck on.

13:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you get the blood pumping

13:42 Speaker 4: and you know, the ghost to your brain, Oh yeah,

13:44 Speaker 4: get those neurons fire, and yeah, absolutely absolutely do you

13:49 Speaker 4: play You must play some covers too, I would imagine,

13:51 Speaker 4: because you don't have enough music to fill.

13:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's our hour kind of balance.

13:55 Speaker 2: Yeah.

13:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you know, there's you gotta figure out what

13:57 Speaker 5: hat you're wearing. So like, if you're in a listening room,

14:00 Speaker 5: you want to play a lot of your stuff. People

14:01 Speaker 5: are there to sit and listen to you. Right if

14:02 Speaker 5: you're in a bar a restaurant, like people want to

14:04 Speaker 5: be entertained, and so some of the time. That's just like, oh,

14:06 Speaker 5: I want to hear a song that they're like, oh,

14:07 Speaker 5: that's a cool, interesting version of that song. I know,

14:09 Speaker 5: like I know this one, so yeah, try to mix

14:11 Speaker 5: it up.

14:12 Speaker 4: You've got a great voice, are you? Are you? Did

14:14 Speaker 4: you take any kind of lessons? Are you? Self taught?

14:17 Speaker 5: Mostly self taught? I took some voice lessons from this

14:21 Speaker 5: Ukrainian guy when I was in high school for about

14:23 Speaker 5: probably like six months or so.

14:25 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding, yeah, yeah.

14:27 Speaker 5: So very formal. I'm not even sure if I consciously

14:30 Speaker 5: do anything that I was trained to do.

14:32 Speaker 4: But right, right, well, but I'm sure subconc yeah, yeah, absolutely,

14:36 Speaker 4: And what about guitar.

14:38 Speaker 5: Guitar is all self taught. Okay, So my kind of

14:40 Speaker 5: music journey with instrumentation is I started playing piano for

14:43 Speaker 5: nine years. Yeah, hated it, but like my parents made

14:46 Speaker 5: me stick with it.

14:47 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:47 Speaker 5: I picked up drums on my own, loved playing drums,

14:51 Speaker 5: started to learn to play by music, and then picked

14:53 Speaker 5: up guitar and bass on my own after that.

14:55 Speaker 4: Yeah.

14:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, And somehow in that transition from piano to drums,

15:00 Speaker 5: took it and made it my own. And I was

15:01 Speaker 5: just like I love this, like I loved playing, so, like,

15:03 Speaker 5: I want to figure how to play more stuff.

15:04 Speaker 4: Do you think learning the piano helped you to learn

15:07 Speaker 4: other instruments more quickly? Because something I hear a lot

15:10 Speaker 4: of people say, So, I'm a musician myself. I'm a

15:12 Speaker 4: bass player, but I never learned you know, I would, well,

15:16 Speaker 4: I would kind of noodle around a little bit on

15:18 Speaker 4: the keyboard when I was a kid, but I never

15:19 Speaker 4: really learned to play. But I've heard a lot of

15:21 Speaker 4: music instructors say that everybody should, no matter what instrument

15:26 Speaker 4: they play, everybody should start out on the keyboard, some

15:30 Speaker 4: sort of keyboard because that's such a great way to

15:33 Speaker 4: kind of kind of build your well a lot of

15:35 Speaker 4: things in terms of, you know, making sure you have

15:38 Speaker 4: a good ear, and also just you know, it's a

15:40 Speaker 4: good building block for whatever instrument you're going to play.

15:43 Speaker 4: So I'm curious in your case because you know, you

15:46 Speaker 4: didn't like it the piano, but you did it for

15:48 Speaker 4: nine years. So I assume I assume having done that,

15:51 Speaker 4: learning other instruments probably came pretty quickly to you.

15:54 Speaker 2: Yeah.

15:55 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think there's a couple of things wrapped

15:56 Speaker 5: up in that. For me, it's like the piano has

15:59 Speaker 5: a higher learning some instruments, like you can sit and

16:01 Speaker 5: figure out a chord shape on a guitar Souer right,

16:04 Speaker 5: But sometimes at the piano if you want something more

16:06 Speaker 5: than just one note melodies, learning from some you know book, uh,

16:10 Speaker 5: it can it can be difficult to feel like you're

16:12 Speaker 5: making momentum with that. But things like chord structure and

16:16 Speaker 5: even just visualizing the way the notes work on keyboards

16:19 Speaker 5: like the best way to conceptualize that. Yeah, so I

16:23 Speaker 5: think a lot of things that I now lean on

16:25 Speaker 5: with chord structure I learned from piano and now transferred

16:28 Speaker 5: to different instruments.

16:29 Speaker 4: That makes sense, Yeah, I wish that I had done that,

16:31 Speaker 4: you know, I always had a keyboard too, I just

16:33 Speaker 4: never Yeah, I just I don't know, I guest I

16:36 Speaker 4: was kind of a lazy kid though too. I was

16:38 Speaker 4: one of those kids there if I wasn't good at

16:40 Speaker 4: something right away, I would just kind of that was that.

16:43 Speaker 7: You sink I wanted to learn how to play piano

16:46 Speaker 7: so bad. Yeah, I put my kid in it and

16:49 Speaker 7: he hated it, and I, not being your parents, went Yeah.

16:54 Speaker 7: I always said I wasn't going to force him because

16:56 Speaker 7: I wanted him to do music because he wanted to, and.

16:58 Speaker 4: He's a self taught guitar.

17:00 Speaker 7: But I kind of wish I had made him do

17:02 Speaker 7: it because I know that he would have been able

17:03 Speaker 7: to read music and stuff if I had made him.

17:06 Speaker 4: So I don't know, kind of on the fence on

17:08 Speaker 4: that one, I.

17:08 Speaker 5: Wish there was a better way to like tell kids,

17:11 Speaker 5: you don't have to stick with piano, like, just stick

17:13 Speaker 5: with this for now, right, because they look at you know,

17:16 Speaker 5: people shredding on guitar, like killing the drum exactly, and

17:19 Speaker 5: I want to do that, right, Yeah, you can do that,

17:21 Speaker 5: but start here because like you'll be so much better

17:24 Speaker 5: at that thing when you get there.

17:25 Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, But I know what you mean too,

17:28 Speaker 4: Like it's like if you pick up a guitar and

17:30 Speaker 4: you just you know, if you learn power chords, you

17:32 Speaker 4: can go join a punk band pretty quickly.

17:34 Speaker 5: So yeah, it doesn't take much.

17:37 Speaker 4: In my case, the reason I ended up playing bass

17:39 Speaker 4: was so I started on guitar, and I took guitar

17:42 Speaker 4: lessons for a couple of years, but I wasn't But again,

17:44 Speaker 4: I you know, I would get frustrated, I would get

17:46 Speaker 4: impatient with myself, and then in high school, I picked

17:49 Speaker 4: up a bass, and I know other bass players hey

17:52 Speaker 4: when I say this, but it's just the truth. I

17:55 Speaker 4: picked up a bass and I was like, oh, two

17:56 Speaker 4: fewer strings and I don't have to know any chords.

18:00 Speaker 4: I can do this, And and then I ended up.

18:02 Speaker 4: You know, I went on to play in a bunch

18:03 Speaker 4: of bands playing bass because But but I do think

18:06 Speaker 4: in my case though learning some things on guitar to

18:09 Speaker 4: the limited extent that I did, helped make me a

18:12 Speaker 4: better bass player, even though the way that I got

18:14 Speaker 4: to play and bass was again my my own laziness

18:17 Speaker 4: kind of came into play.

18:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, And although like yeah, I think people like to

18:22 Speaker 5: crap on bass players a lot, But in my experience,

18:25 Speaker 5: the bass players I've played with sometimes their musical knowledge

18:28 Speaker 5: like blows me away. Oh yeah for being a simple instrument,

18:31 Speaker 5: so to speak with help me having four strings? Like yeah,

18:33 Speaker 5: their conceptualization of chords and like what changes and like

18:36 Speaker 5: what note they're playing in the root and stuff and

18:38 Speaker 5: just like dang, like they know more than I do

18:40 Speaker 5: about this stuff.

18:41 Speaker 2: For sure.

18:41 Speaker 4: We have Aaron Bilido coming in second hour. I don't

18:43 Speaker 4: know if you know Aaron, but but he's a bass player.

18:45 Speaker 4: And he's amazing. Like I watch his fingers and it's like,

18:48 Speaker 4: oh my god, what he can do at that bass,

18:50 Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, I never got that far with it.

18:54 Speaker 4: But so on your so, like you said, so on

18:56 Speaker 4: your album, so you play everything except you mentioned your

18:59 Speaker 4: wife plays violin, but you do everything else. Yeah.

19:02 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I kept it pretty simple, like I wanted

19:03 Speaker 5: to go for kind of an old country kind of

19:05 Speaker 5: like Zach Bryany kind of sounds. Yeah, And so it's guitar, bass, drums,

19:10 Speaker 5: a little bit of mandolin on a couple songs. Okay,

19:12 Speaker 5: outside of that, that's that's really it for instrumentation.

19:14 Speaker 4: Is the mandolin? Did you find that difficult.

19:17 Speaker 5: To learn or so I don't play it super well.

19:20 Speaker 4: Yeah.

19:21 Speaker 5: I play like just chords on it, so it's easy

19:23 Speaker 5: to figure out, like okay, what's the chord shape for

19:25 Speaker 5: this chord and then kind of do a little chunking

19:28 Speaker 5: us on it. I don't do a whole lot of

19:29 Speaker 5: melody work on the on the.

19:31 Speaker 4: Mandolin, Okay, Okay, Yeah, it is hard with.

19:33 Speaker 5: Big fingers, which is funny because you look at the

19:35 Speaker 5: best mandolin players, like these guys have giant, you know, fingers,

19:39 Speaker 5: and how do they play this.

19:40 Speaker 4: Thing that's well, that's the thing that's That's one of

19:42 Speaker 4: the things that makes me so curious about it because

19:43 Speaker 4: some of these instruments, like the mandolin, I just I've

19:47 Speaker 4: always wondered about that. It looks like it's difficult to

19:50 Speaker 4: you know, it's hard enough when you're learning to play guitar,

19:52 Speaker 4: you know, to make sure that your fingers are going

19:54 Speaker 4: in the right places, and then on something like the mandolin. Yeah,

19:56 Speaker 4: you're right, like like if you have big fingers, you know,

19:58 Speaker 4: how do you do that able to really you know,

20:01 Speaker 4: not be not be sloppy with it? So it's very

20:05 Speaker 4: impressive to me. Do you want to you want to

20:06 Speaker 4: play another live one for us? Sure? Dying to hear more?

20:09 Speaker 2: Sure?

20:10 Speaker 4: Yeah.

20:10 Speaker 5: So the next one I have is uh so, it's

20:13 Speaker 5: one of the songs I mentioned. I wrote some songs

20:15 Speaker 5: in February. There's this thing called FOM, which is February

20:18 Speaker 5: Album Writing Month. It's like a challenge you try to

20:19 Speaker 5: write fourteen songs and all the February.

20:21 Speaker 4: It sounds like kind of like the RPM chant.

20:23 Speaker 5: Very much like that. Okay, yeah, except I think the

20:26 Speaker 5: end goal is not to have like a produced thing

20:28 Speaker 5: at the end of it. It's just like you have

20:29 Speaker 5: a collection of songs and you can do whatever with them.

20:31 Speaker 5: It's a cohesive album.

20:32 Speaker 4: Oh cool, but okay.

20:34 Speaker 5: One of the songs that came out of that, there

20:35 Speaker 5: was a news story right around that time, I think

20:38 Speaker 5: from the Washington Post about scientists and measure that the

20:40 Speaker 5: moon is starting to shrink, and so I was like, man,

20:43 Speaker 5: this is like the perfect jumping off point for a song. Yeah,

20:46 Speaker 5: So I tried to dream up this world of like, Okay,

20:49 Speaker 5: if the moon's shrinking, what's that mean for like our

20:51 Speaker 5: tide patterns on the earth, Like what's that look like?

20:53 Speaker 5: If I draw that out to this post apocalyptic picture.

20:56 Speaker 5: Then I tried to turn that into a love song

20:58 Speaker 5: of like what's it look like for love to sustained

21:00 Speaker 5: something as tragic and difficult as like the world coming

21:03 Speaker 5: to an end. So there's a song called Moonquakes that's

21:05 Speaker 5: about that stemmed from that story. Interesting, all right, totally fictitious.

21:10 Speaker 5: Matt Litzinger live in studio with us. I'm looking forward

21:14 Speaker 5: to this one. This one sounds pretty interesting. Although worry

21:17 Speaker 5: someone once so we have climate change storry about, now

21:20 Speaker 5: we gotta worry about the moon.

21:21 Speaker 4: Shrinking too.

21:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully it's a it's a very slow process.

21:25 Speaker 4: I would assume. Matt litzing Er Live in studio.

21:39 Speaker 6: The moon is shrinking.

21:42 Speaker 2: That's what the experts say.

21:51 Speaker 8: It's getting smaller.

21:54 Speaker 2: Everything old day.

22:04 Speaker 8: Don't be alarm.

22:07 Speaker 2: That's what the man on TV says. It feels like

22:17 Speaker 2: everything is hanging by threads.

22:35 Speaker 6: Last night I.

22:37 Speaker 2: Was for above the ground and I could see four

22:50 Speaker 2: miles and miles of round. When the lights went out, I.

23:03 Speaker 8: Felt the darkness around.

23:12 Speaker 6: This might be the end.

23:14 Speaker 8: But I'm finding hoping your green eye.

23:24 Speaker 2: And if the ground beneath our feet should break, won't

23:32 Speaker 2: lead you astray.

23:37 Speaker 6: And if the seas.

23:38 Speaker 2: Shoot over won their bound, I'll hold back the way.

23:48 Speaker 3: It's the way of this luve.

23:54 Speaker 6: Spore.

23:56 Speaker 3: This world could bad way of this love.

24:06 Speaker 8: It's ball in this world code babe.

24:33 Speaker 4: Mm hmm wow. Oh let me get that mic on Jenny, Sorry,

24:37 Speaker 4: do that to meet every Saturday.

24:39 Speaker 3: He does.

24:40 Speaker 4: He turns me download I do I do? Uh No,

24:44 Speaker 4: that is great, that is great. Matt Listener here with

24:47 Speaker 4: us live in studio. H Ryan LeMay is in the

24:50 Speaker 4: I see in the chat room, says well done. Ryan

24:52 Speaker 4: is a very obviously I'm sure you know Ryan. He's

24:54 Speaker 4: a very very talented musician.

24:56 Speaker 9: I do not know.

24:56 Speaker 4: Oh you don't know Ryan, Okay, you'll probably uh you'll

24:59 Speaker 4: probably meet at some point. Also, Eric Manarone, if I'm

25:02 Speaker 4: saying that correctly, says I, all, hello Eric in the

25:05 Speaker 4: chat room. If you are just joining us. We do

25:07 Speaker 4: have Matt Litz singer with us live in studio. He's

25:10 Speaker 4: got this great album keep It Burning, really really good.

25:13 Speaker 4: Do you are you already working on the next one,

25:16 Speaker 4: so you know, whereas you record at home and you know,

25:18 Speaker 4: you can kind of take your time with it, I

25:19 Speaker 4: would imagine you're already working on new stuff.

25:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's kind of funny. I'm actually taking a

25:23 Speaker 5: little bit of a well not a break, but just

25:25 Speaker 5: scaling things back a little bit.

25:26 Speaker 2: Yeah.

25:27 Speaker 5: I had a lot of songs written for this project,

25:29 Speaker 5: and so I had the benefit of being able to

25:32 Speaker 5: pick just the ones I liked the best or that

25:34 Speaker 5: worked most cohesively for this theme. Yeah, and so I

25:37 Speaker 5: had some extra songs that I didn't do anything with yet,

25:40 Speaker 5: so those are kind of in the hopper. I played

25:41 Speaker 5: those live out just trying to like get feelers for

25:44 Speaker 5: how to fine tune them. I had a tendency the

25:46 Speaker 5: right really long songs, so I'm always on the mission

25:48 Speaker 5: of figure out how do I tighten this stuff up.

25:50 Speaker 4: Yeah.

25:51 Speaker 5: So like one of those songs is like seven minutes long,

25:53 Speaker 5: and so it's like, okay, that's too long for a

25:56 Speaker 5: singer songwriter ballad. Yeah, trying to figure how to tighten

25:58 Speaker 5: it up. But yeah, right now, it's just kind of

26:00 Speaker 5: scaling back a little bit. Like I said, I have

26:02 Speaker 5: a young family, so and this isn't my full time

26:04 Speaker 5: gig too, so just trying to figure out how do

26:06 Speaker 5: I keep this in his right place right right?

26:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of time management skills that can

26:10 Speaker 4: go into that. Do you remember the first song you

26:14 Speaker 4: ever wrote?

26:15 Speaker 3: I do.

26:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So I started writing songs in high school

26:20 Speaker 5: just as kind of a cathartic thing, and it was

26:22 Speaker 5: a just really bubblegum poppy love song.

26:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you and me? Yeah?

26:26 Speaker 2: Yeah?

26:28 Speaker 4: Did it survive?

26:28 Speaker 5: Do you ever play not survive? I don't know that

26:30 Speaker 5: I could even play it if I had to, really.

26:32 Speaker 2: Yeah.

26:32 Speaker 5: I don't even think it got recorded. I think it

26:34 Speaker 5: just got played to the girlfriend at the time.

26:36 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I don't remember who it was, but We

26:39 Speaker 4: had a guest on who really surprised me. They could

26:41 Speaker 4: remember like the first song they wrote when they were

26:43 Speaker 4: like ten years old and they still play it. It

26:45 Speaker 4: might it might have been Kenny Troon and Kenny, if

26:48 Speaker 4: you're listening and I'm wrong, I apologize, but I feel

26:51 Speaker 4: like it was Kenny Truon. He said, yeah, I still

26:53 Speaker 4: play it. My first song is like wow, man, Yeah.

26:56 Speaker 5: I always jealous of those guys.

26:57 Speaker 4: Yeah.

26:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you can go back to your back catalog

26:59 Speaker 5: and will have just the muscle memory to pull back

27:02 Speaker 5: out right right.

27:03 Speaker 4: Who can you tell me about influences, Like in terms

27:07 Speaker 4: of songwriting, who who influences you? Yeah?

27:12 Speaker 5: So I like a lot of singer songwriter stuff. It

27:14 Speaker 5: has more of a Maricana kind of rock background to it. Yeah,

27:19 Speaker 5: Like modern influences will probably be like Jason Isbel is

27:21 Speaker 5: a big one. Storgel Simpson is probably a big one.

27:26 Speaker 5: Going back further, I love John Denver, like I just

27:29 Speaker 5: keep coming back. He's just such a great songwriter.

27:32 Speaker 4: Yeah.

27:33 Speaker 5: My grandparents, my grandma in particularly on my mom's side,

27:35 Speaker 5: really loved him. And so like playing country roads is

27:38 Speaker 5: always a big favorite for me, or like leaving on

27:40 Speaker 5: a jet Plane.

27:41 Speaker 4: Yeah.

27:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, his stuff's great. I love coming back to his

27:45 Speaker 5: his music.

27:46 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, what about in terms of your approach vocally?

27:49 Speaker 4: Is there anyone you Is there anyone you've ever really

27:52 Speaker 4: you have a unique voice. I can't think of anyone

27:55 Speaker 4: off the top of my head who I feel like

27:57 Speaker 4: you sound like? Yeah, exactly, But I don't know. I mean,

28:00 Speaker 4: is there anyone who's influenced you as far as your vocals?

28:04 Speaker 5: I mean, I think a lot of people over time,

28:06 Speaker 5: and I get compared to some people, so like Evan

28:09 Speaker 5: Stevens Hall from Pine Grove, They're like an indie rock band.

28:16 Speaker 5: The guy from the Decembris, who I'm blanking on his

28:18 Speaker 5: name right now.

28:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember either, but I know what you mean.

28:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think I pull from

28:25 Speaker 5: different things. I hear in vocal performances and I'm like,

28:28 Speaker 5: I like that. I try to emulate that a little bit,

28:30 Speaker 5: and then it's just still trying to figure out, like

28:31 Speaker 5: how do I do that and not make it sound

28:33 Speaker 5: like I'm trying to sound like like, you know, I

28:35 Speaker 5: have a certain signature to my voice and I want

28:37 Speaker 5: to keep that right. But it is interesting, like listening

28:40 Speaker 5: back to material from like ten years ago to now.

28:42 Speaker 5: It's crazy how your voice changes over time. And I

28:46 Speaker 5: even listen to other artists like that happens so much too.

28:48 Speaker 5: H But it's it's really interesting to see, and it's

28:51 Speaker 5: very much a subconscious thing because yeah, I didn't decide

28:54 Speaker 5: I'm gonna sit down and record this song so that

28:55 Speaker 5: it sounds like this.

28:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always been kind of fascinated by that with

28:59 Speaker 4: vocal how some some people's voices do change over time

29:04 Speaker 4: as they get older, their voice gets deeper. But some

29:06 Speaker 4: people it seems like it you know, you hear something

29:09 Speaker 4: they record very uh you know, like they might be

29:13 Speaker 4: a sixty year old guy who sounds just like he

29:16 Speaker 4: did when he was twenty, and it's like or at

29:18 Speaker 4: least on at least in the studio. Yeah, maybe maybe

29:20 Speaker 4: not live. But you know, it's interesting how how some

29:23 Speaker 4: people their voice really changes and some doesn't. I imagine too.

29:27 Speaker 4: Part of that comes from, you know, a lot of musicians,

29:30 Speaker 4: you know, drink and smoke and that you know that'll

29:32 Speaker 4: change your voice certainly, But but I think for a

29:34 Speaker 4: lot of people to you know, their voices just kind

29:36 Speaker 4: of get deeper naturally as they get older. But yeah,

29:39 Speaker 4: some people just sound sound the same. It's it's weird,

29:44 Speaker 4: I think. I think Billy Joel is an example of that.

29:46 Speaker 5: Like it's true.

29:47 Speaker 4: Like if you if you go on YouTube and you

29:49 Speaker 4: pull up a Billy Joel video of him performing live

29:51 Speaker 4: in recent years, he kind of sounds the same as

29:55 Speaker 4: he did when you know, when that first album came out.

29:58 Speaker 4: It's it's it's weird. But all the time goes so fast.

30:01 Speaker 4: You want to play another one for us? Sure? I

30:02 Speaker 4: want to. I want to get at least one more

30:04 Speaker 4: live one and before we run out of time. If

30:05 Speaker 4: you are just joining us. Matt Litzinger is here with us,

30:07 Speaker 4: alive in studio, and I did confirm with him. I

30:10 Speaker 4: am saying his name right because I wasn't sure if

30:12 Speaker 4: it was everybody.

30:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always short eyes.

30:16 Speaker 4: Anybody ever get it wrong like on a poster or something,

30:18 Speaker 4: not on.

30:18 Speaker 5: A poster, but not saying it out loud, Yeah, quite

30:21 Speaker 5: a bit.

30:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Matt Litzinger is here with us in studio.

30:25 Speaker 3: What are you?

30:26 Speaker 4: What are you gonna play for us?

30:27 Speaker 5: Yeah? So this next one's called I don't know much.

30:28 Speaker 5: It's on the record as well. It's it's a song

30:31 Speaker 5: I have two young kids and they ask a ton

30:33 Speaker 5: of questions. Yeah, and I've gone through this phase of

30:36 Speaker 5: like in my twenties, I felt like I had to

30:37 Speaker 5: have the answered everything all the time, And in my thirties,

30:41 Speaker 5: I'm really kind of okay with it. It's okay to

30:43 Speaker 5: just say I don't know, right, I'm more and more

30:46 Speaker 5: aware of the sense like when people try to tell

30:48 Speaker 5: you they do have all the answers everything, to be

30:49 Speaker 5: highly skeptical of that. Yes, and so this song is

30:52 Speaker 5: about just being able to go through life and being

30:54 Speaker 5: okay with not having answered everything.

30:56 Speaker 4: Oh, I like it all right.

31:07 Speaker 3: It seems like this life face.

31:11 Speaker 6: Getting rd about the day, people trying to figure.

31:17 Speaker 3: Out how.

31:20 Speaker 2: It got to be this way, because in the sage

31:25 Speaker 2: of information, the facts.

31:28 Speaker 3: Seems so passive.

31:32 Speaker 2: I'm standing with my mouth a gape, can't find those

31:37 Speaker 2: words to say. So I don't know much, and that's okay.

31:45 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping it's enough to give me through the day.

31:50 Speaker 2: Some pass lead back where they begin going in circles.

31:56 Speaker 2: It can drive you mad. There's a few things I

32:01 Speaker 2: know for sure. The rest I'm still searching for the sun.

32:08 Speaker 2: It's gonna rise each day and your love for me

32:13 Speaker 2: will never face. You love for me will never face.

32:32 Speaker 2: And I've got a few friends who have carried me

32:37 Speaker 2: on this road and they couldn't give a rip about

32:45 Speaker 2: the stuff I think I know, because we're all just

32:50 Speaker 2: grown up kids trying to figure this life out and

32:56 Speaker 2: being honest about them madness of Clara our Dows.

33:05 Speaker 6: I don't know much and that's okay. I'm just hoping

33:11 Speaker 6: it's enough to give me through the day.

33:14 Speaker 2: Some pass lead back where they be again.

33:19 Speaker 6: When circles, it can drive you mad. There's a few

33:24 Speaker 6: things I know for sure. The rest I'm still searching for.

33:31 Speaker 8: The sun is gonna rise each day, and you love

33:37 Speaker 8: for me will never face. You laugh for me will

33:46 Speaker 8: never face.

33:56 Speaker 6: I don't know much, and that's okay. I'm just hoping

34:01 Speaker 6: it enough to give it through today.

34:04 Speaker 2: Some paz lead back where they begain go in circles.

34:10 Speaker 6: It can drive you men.

34:12 Speaker 2: There's a few things I know for sure, And the

34:18 Speaker 2: rest I'm still searching for.

34:21 Speaker 8: The sun is gonnariz each day, and you love for

34:27 Speaker 8: me will never faced. You love for me will never fade.

34:38 Speaker 4: Oh I love that. I love that. What a great song.

34:41 Speaker 4: If you're just joining us Matt Litzinger is here with us,

34:43 Speaker 4: live in studio. What's that one called a gun?

34:45 Speaker 5: I don't know much.

34:46 Speaker 4: I don't know much. Great great song, great song. You're

34:49 Speaker 4: getting some love. In the chat room to Tom Russo,

34:51 Speaker 4: who's been on the show a few times, very very

34:53 Speaker 4: talented musician, says sounds great, nice lyrics, great voice and song.

34:58 Speaker 4: Thanks absolutely, and by the way, I owe you an

35:00 Speaker 4: email and I will get back to you, I promise.

35:03 Speaker 4: Dj Steve, also in the chat room, says, good morning

35:05 Speaker 4: Matt and Jenny. I am really enjoying this. Thank you sir,

35:08 Speaker 4: Thank you Dj Steve. Let's see, Yes, we do have

35:11 Speaker 4: Matt Litzinger live and studio with us, and we've been

35:13 Speaker 4: he's been playing some songs from that one's on the

35:15 Speaker 4: album too, I assume, right.

35:16 Speaker 10: Yeah.

35:17 Speaker 4: For those watching online the video component of the show,

35:21 Speaker 4: let me hold this up again for everybody. This is

35:24 Speaker 4: the album Keep It Burning, full length album from Matt Litzinger.

35:28 Speaker 3: This is all.

35:29 Speaker 4: This is all online too, right. People can get this.

35:31 Speaker 5: Online all the streaming services.

35:33 Speaker 4: Excellent, excellent, And what went into the decision to make

35:37 Speaker 4: physical copies too? Because not everyone does, although it seems

35:40 Speaker 4: like lately most of the guests that we have are

35:43 Speaker 4: are doing CDs. There was a period of time where

35:46 Speaker 4: it seemed like no one was doing CDs, and then

35:49 Speaker 4: now everyone is, which is great, great to see if

35:52 Speaker 4: some people are even releasing vinyl. But what went into

35:54 Speaker 4: the decision to release a physical copy?

35:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, so part of it was that I did a

35:59 Speaker 5: Kickstarter campaign and so just having some type of physical

36:01 Speaker 5: reward for it felt important. Yeah, And people took me

36:04 Speaker 5: up on that quite a bit too. Just kind of

36:06 Speaker 5: have like assigned even if it's just memorabilia and you

36:08 Speaker 5: never like open the cellophane to it, right, Just having

36:11 Speaker 5: that people really like that. And at live shows too,

36:13 Speaker 5: like being able to go away, like I like this

36:15 Speaker 5: experience and I want to take something home with me

36:17 Speaker 5: from it.

36:17 Speaker 3: Right.

36:18 Speaker 5: I don't even know how many people really have CD players.

36:20 Speaker 5: Like my vehicle doesn't have a CD player in it, Yeah,

36:23 Speaker 5: truck does. My old it's like a two thousand and six,

36:25 Speaker 5: but like my newer card doesn't have a CD player.

36:27 Speaker 4: Right. Right, way back when people were predicting the total

36:32 Speaker 4: death of CDs, I think what kind of kept CDs

36:35 Speaker 4: going was to a large degree, just you know, people

36:38 Speaker 4: still having CD players in their cars, and of course

36:40 Speaker 4: new cars now don't have them. But I think you're

36:42 Speaker 4: right too. People like having a physical copy, you know,

36:46 Speaker 4: especially if you're a big fan of somebody, and yeah,

36:49 Speaker 4: most of them probably, you know, they may not ever

36:51 Speaker 4: open it. They just want to have it to support

36:52 Speaker 4: you and to support your work. And that's my theory

36:55 Speaker 4: with vinyl too, because I think even fewer people have

36:57 Speaker 4: record players, but vinyl is well, I think I think

37:01 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, it was either twenty two or twenty three,

37:04 Speaker 4: was the first year that that vinyl it actually outsold

37:08 Speaker 4: CDs A chart for that, yeah, yeah, And I'm convinced

37:11 Speaker 4: that most people who purchase vinyl never open it, you know,

37:14 Speaker 4: they just if you're really a fan of an artist,

37:17 Speaker 4: you know, because you know who has a I mean

37:19 Speaker 4: some people have record players obviously, but but I think

37:21 Speaker 4: most people, yeah, they purchase it and they don't open it.

37:23 Speaker 4: They just want to have it. And if you're really

37:25 Speaker 4: a big fan of somebody, it makes sense to do that.

37:27 Speaker 4: Certainly for a part of.

37:28 Speaker 5: It might be self serving too, because I've always liked

37:30 Speaker 5: listening to full records. Yeah, and like I think that

37:33 Speaker 5: just goes back to like, was your only way to

37:36 Speaker 5: listen to things before before Spotify would recommend things after

37:38 Speaker 5: you listen to a track. So I like sitting especially

37:41 Speaker 5: from a songwriter perspective, how'd you sequence this? Like how

37:44 Speaker 5: do these songs tell a story together?

37:46 Speaker 4: I love that?

37:47 Speaker 5: And then being able to look at the liner notes,

37:48 Speaker 5: especially yes, like we all miss out on that now.

37:51 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, especially when Yeah, when I was a kid,

37:53 Speaker 4: I used to love listening to I've been looking at

37:55 Speaker 4: liner notes when I'd get a new CD. Yeah, just

37:58 Speaker 4: you know, seeing what inf you know, pre internet, just

38:01 Speaker 4: seeing what information I could glean from just from the

38:04 Speaker 4: liner notes, you know, which usually wasn't much. But if

38:07 Speaker 4: I was a really big fan of somebody, just anybody,

38:09 Speaker 4: I could you know, oh who was the uh engineer

38:12 Speaker 4: on on this? You know, you know, just any little

38:14 Speaker 4: bit of information, you know. But I'm a very curious

38:17 Speaker 4: person anyway, So anything I could learn from liner notes

38:19 Speaker 4: was great. Yeah, so that's excellent. Is this your first?

38:21 Speaker 4: Is this your first physical release this disc? Yes?

38:26 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, so this would be the first. I

38:28 Speaker 5: made some like, you know, very homemade copies of early stuff,

38:31 Speaker 5: but this would be the first like professional release.

38:33 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's excellent. You know, it's funny. Back

38:36 Speaker 4: when I first so there was a span of time

38:38 Speaker 4: when I first started interviewing musicians on radio shows and podcasts.

38:43 Speaker 4: There was a span of time where, like I said,

38:45 Speaker 4: nobody was really releasing CDs, but people would still give me.

38:49 Speaker 4: People would actually give me music on their CD instead

38:51 Speaker 4: of doing it like now where you just email your

38:53 Speaker 4: music to somebody. People would actually give me music for

38:55 Speaker 4: the show on a CD that wouldn't be that would

38:58 Speaker 4: not be professionally produced, and it would I couldn't even

39:00 Speaker 4: count the number of times someone would hand me a

39:02 Speaker 4: CD on their finger, you know what I mean, like

39:05 Speaker 4: like no case, no case. That would happen a lot,

39:09 Speaker 4: and it was always like, really, this is how you're

39:13 Speaker 4: giving this to me?

39:14 Speaker 1: You know.

39:14 Speaker 4: They'd write on it with the sharpie what it was

39:16 Speaker 4: and then hand you know, here's the CD for the

39:18 Speaker 4: you know you need this for the show, right, It's like, yeah, thanks.

39:22 Speaker 4: We actually have a CD player here. I think Rob

39:25 Speaker 4: is uh yeah, Rob has a veto from Grandit state

39:27 Speaker 4: of mind. I think he's the only one who actually

39:28 Speaker 4: uses it. I've never used it, but we do have

39:30 Speaker 4: a functioning CD player here. But no it's I think

39:34 Speaker 4: it's cool that you're doing that, and I like, now

39:36 Speaker 4: you mentioned too, I think this was off air you

39:37 Speaker 4: mentioned this. Your wife is a graphic artist.

39:39 Speaker 5: She is, Yeah, does she do all the artwork? So yeah,

39:42 Speaker 5: I had a my friend who's a photographer, Rebecca Scatting,

39:44 Speaker 5: did all the photography inside and out, and then my

39:47 Speaker 5: wife did the layout and all the design work.

39:49 Speaker 4: Okay, excellent, Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. That's great. And

39:52 Speaker 4: you brought us a couple of stickers too, which is good.

39:54 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you mentioned your wife made those. Jenny loves stickers,

39:58 Speaker 4: as you can see from the back of her computer.

40:02 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

40:04 Speaker 6: We have time.

40:04 Speaker 4: You want to play one more, I'd love to. Okay,

40:06 Speaker 4: awesome if you're just joining us, we have Matt listeninger

40:08 Speaker 4: here with us live in studio. What are you gonna play? Yeah?

40:11 Speaker 5: So this is an older one. It's not on the album.

40:13 Speaker 5: It's called time Turner. So there's an old family story

40:17 Speaker 5: of playing board games and somebody asking someone to turn

40:19 Speaker 5: that little sand timer. It started this song idea in

40:23 Speaker 5: my head of like man, time slips away, and we've

40:25 Speaker 5: got a lot of songs about that. But how do

40:26 Speaker 5: I write it from this like appealing to a higher

40:28 Speaker 5: power to say, like, hey, can I just get a

40:29 Speaker 5: little bit more time? Can you slow this down a

40:31 Speaker 5: little bit? So it's a song about that, all right.

40:50 Speaker 2: Time turning on? She turned the time a little more slowly.

40:55 Speaker 2: I've been wasting my time today.

40:59 Speaker 6: Oh please, won't you have just a little pity because

41:04 Speaker 6: I could? There was a little time my way.

41:09 Speaker 11: And and time turner, won't you lend me your ear

41:19 Speaker 11: for a moment?

41:20 Speaker 6: That's why I can plead my case to you.

41:24 Speaker 2: Seems like I'm always running in circles a bird, and

41:30 Speaker 2: it's heavy in my.

41:31 Speaker 6: Moments a few.

41:49 Speaker 11: Time turner, won't you.

41:50 Speaker 6: Tell me when my time is over?

41:54 Speaker 8: Maybe I can still leave my mark.

41:57 Speaker 2: Greatest fear is waste all my time for my life

42:04 Speaker 2: fades in.

42:05 Speaker 5: To dark.

42:30 Speaker 2: And time turn on? Won't you turn the time a

42:33 Speaker 2: little more slowly? I've been wasting my time today.

42:45 Speaker 4: I think that one's my favorite.

42:47 Speaker 5: Oh thank you?

42:48 Speaker 4: Very relatable, too, very relatable. I love it. I love it.

42:51 Speaker 4: Matt Listener here with us alive in studio. That's uh,

42:55 Speaker 4: when when did you write that that? You said that

42:57 Speaker 4: one an early one.

42:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's from probably back in two thousand twelve.

43:00 Speaker 4: Okay, oh wow, wow, yeah, very good, very good. Have

43:04 Speaker 4: you ever recorded that one?

43:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on an EP called Up in the Woods EP?

43:07 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, outstanding. What do you have this weekend? Do

43:11 Speaker 4: you have any shows this weekend?

43:12 Speaker 5: Nope? Next one I have is in December and Planet

43:15 Speaker 5: two share.

43:16 Speaker 4: Oh, very good.

43:16 Speaker 5: End of the month. I think it's a twenty seventh okay, yeah,

43:18 Speaker 5: so it's I'm taking a.

43:19 Speaker 4: Little break during the winter. Do you kind of hibernate

43:22 Speaker 4: a little bit too and focus on writing and recording

43:24 Speaker 4: or do you still play.

43:25 Speaker 5: Especially I try to do that February project where I

43:27 Speaker 5: do a songwriting project. Oh Yeahbruary, because it's just the darkest,

43:30 Speaker 5: like depressing part of the year. It's like you might

43:32 Speaker 5: as well produce something out of it, you.

43:33 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I notice a lot of

43:36 Speaker 4: people kind of plus, you know, going and playing shows

43:40 Speaker 4: in the winter is hard because you never know what

43:42 Speaker 4: the weather's gonna do, and a lot of things experience here.

43:45 Speaker 4: It's cold and flu season, all of it, all of it. Yeah,

43:50 Speaker 4: is summer kind of your busiest time as far as playing.

43:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And it's just seeing people seem to have fun. Yeah,

43:55 Speaker 5: the summer too, you know they enjoy live music more. Yeah,

43:57 Speaker 5: like it seems like it.

43:58 Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely so we while speaking the time,

44:03 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about closing the segment with this year another

44:07 Speaker 4: one of your great studio tracks that you sent us.

44:09 Speaker 4: So it seems appropriate since you just seems like it

44:12 Speaker 4: might relate in some way to the song you just played. So,

44:16 Speaker 4: but what should people know about? Where to find you online?

44:18 Speaker 4: How to keep up with everything that you're doing? Yeah?

44:21 Speaker 5: Sure, so I get a profile on Spotify just mattlet Singer,

44:24 Speaker 5: and then my website mattlet Singer music dot Com is

44:27 Speaker 5: where I usually try to put everything. Yeah, redesigning it.

44:30 Speaker 5: So it should be redesigned in the next week or so.

44:32 Speaker 5: It's very very close to being done.

44:33 Speaker 3: Oh cool.

44:34 Speaker 5: I think the last time it was redone was twenty ten.

44:36 Speaker 4: Oh really? Yeah? Oh wow? Do you do all at yourself?

44:39 Speaker 5: I do yes, as my day job. I'm a web developer.

44:41 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding? Yeah, oh very good, yeah, excellent, excellent,

44:44 Speaker 4: So we will will close out. Oh you should spell

44:46 Speaker 4: your last name too, sure?

44:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, so last name l I t z I n

44:50 Speaker 5: G e er.

44:51 Speaker 4: It's actually well, you know, it's funny. It's it's obviously

44:54 Speaker 4: not a common last name, but it is spelled pretty

44:57 Speaker 4: much the way you would expect it today, which is

45:00 Speaker 4: I think so people struggle with my last name all

45:02 Speaker 4: the time. Connorton is very unusual and uh people people

45:05 Speaker 4: misspell it.

45:06 Speaker 5: But a lot of Matts though, a lot of mats

45:09 Speaker 5: never a minister in area where there's not another match?

45:11 Speaker 4: Are there a lot of Litzingers?

45:13 Speaker 5: You know, I've met hardly any? Yeah, which is funny

45:15 Speaker 5: because online I compete with two other Mattlets singers. One's

45:18 Speaker 5: a real litor and one's in like creative ad buying.

45:21 Speaker 5: Oh no kidding, Yeah, so like its se o value.

45:23 Speaker 5: There's some out there, but I've never met a lot

45:25 Speaker 5: in real life.

45:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh, definitely a rare name, but that's good.

45:30 Speaker 4: A rare name, you have less chance of somebody popping

45:32 Speaker 4: up and saying, hey, I'm also a musician with this

45:34 Speaker 4: name and I was doing it before you and you

45:36 Speaker 4: know and everything that goes with that. So so that's

45:39 Speaker 4: that's definitely an advantage. But we will close out with

45:41 Speaker 4: this great track. This is called This Year from Matt

45:44 Speaker 4: Litz Singer and Matt thank you again.

45:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

45:47 Speaker 4: You got it.

45:56 Speaker 3: I'm looking up.

46:00 Speaker 10: It.

46:01 Speaker 3: Swip the monsters out from under my bed. I'm moving

46:06 Speaker 3: on from what might have been.

46:09 Speaker 9: I'm getting ready to shift this skin.

46:13 Speaker 3: All this time that I've wasted, it's.

46:18 Speaker 2: Given me a reason to say, this year, I'm gonna

46:24 Speaker 2: do things different.

46:26 Speaker 3: I'm gonna see the hard things to my gaze has said,

46:31 Speaker 3: and I'm not gonnaway. I'll be standing here.

46:36 Speaker 6: It's true.

46:38 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to do it better this year. Just

46:51 Speaker 3: wait and see.

46:52 Speaker 2: I'll take you by surprise. This new me is more

46:57 Speaker 2: than just theop. Guys, it's all me. Once, give yourself

47:01 Speaker 2: some graties, if not for some of your mistakes. Each

47:08 Speaker 2: year's a brand new start. It's given me a reason

47:14 Speaker 2: to say, this year, I'm gonna do things different, gonna

47:20 Speaker 2: see the hard things go what Jesus said, and I'm

47:26 Speaker 2: not gonna waver.

47:28 Speaker 3: I'll be stand and hear it's true. This year. I'm

47:34 Speaker 3: done with the excuses.

47:37 Speaker 6: But ket me shackle for too long.

47:41 Speaker 2: I'll reached a point where I was down for the count,

47:44 Speaker 2: but I'll live to see a new day.

47:47 Speaker 3: Darn.

47:49 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to do it better this year. This

48:03 Speaker 2: cold weather in store for the Northeast, I might.

48:11 Speaker 3: Not see the sun for a couple of weeks.

48:19 Speaker 10: Maybe I won't do all the things I set out

48:25 Speaker 10: to do, but I'll take a few steps.

48:31 Speaker 3: And I'll go a little too, Because.

48:37 Speaker 2: This year I'm gonna do things different. I'm gonna see

48:42 Speaker 2: the hard things through. My caze is said, and I'm

48:47 Speaker 2: not gonna wait.

48:50 Speaker 3: I'll be standing here. It's true.

48:54 Speaker 2: This year round done with the excuses they ken me

48:59 Speaker 2: shackle for to law. I reached a point where I

49:04 Speaker 2: was down for the counber. I lived to see a

49:08 Speaker 2: new day dawn.

49:10 Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to do it better. Lord, I hope

49:16 Speaker 9: I do better this year.

49:22 Speaker 6: This year,