Matt Connarton Unleashed: Vigil

0:00 Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and I'm going to bring these mics up here. We've got all five guys the band Vigil here with us in studio. Welcome, thanks for having us. Absolutely, Oh, Brandon, I can't hear you, and I need to figure out why. Oh I know why. I figured it out.

0:16 Speaker 2: Hello.

0:16 Speaker 1: Hello, I am Brandon. Hi Brandon Brandon. I did want you to introduce yourself first, actually, because you have incumbency here. You've been on the show before. I have, I don't believe anyone else in the room has. So you were on the show years ago. We were talking off air, like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, something like that.

0:34 Speaker 3: Seventeen or twenty eighteen. Yeah, I was running for office again and I, you know, came on have a conversation with you about it.

0:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was when we were at the old place above Margarita's there. So this is your first time in the nice new studio, so welcome, thank you, And this is the first I'm sure we talked about music at some point when you were on the show before, but now you've got an actual band to talk about. So really really excited to have you here.

0:54 Speaker 3: I'm here to do what I'm really meant to do was supposed to play, you know, play heavy music.

0:58 Speaker 1: Yes, you're the drummer. Excellent, excellent, and let's go around the room. We'll have everyone else introduce, introduce themselves.

1:06 Speaker 4: My name is Randy, and I played guitar for then.

1:09 Speaker 5: Okay, welcome Randy.

1:11 Speaker 2: I am Dave and I do with a vocal duty.

1:14 Speaker 6: Welcome Dave, Joe bass guitaro, Craig, I'm the guitarist.

1:19 Speaker 5: Okay. Wonderful, wonderful.

1:21 Speaker 1: And now these guys brought goodies. So for those of you watching online, I'm gonna put the camera on me for a moment because we appreciate this very much.

1:28 Speaker 5: When when folks do this and.

1:33 Speaker 1: Oh there's now this is a subject that comes up a lot on the show, whether whether or not to release physical media. But you guys have a CD, so for those watching online, we get that right in front of the camera.

1:43 Speaker 6: There.

1:44 Speaker 1: Very cool. Who did the artwork for this?

1:46 Speaker 6: It was I found some guy on fiver you know online really yeah, yeah, yeah, and I you know, he had some ideas I liked and we purchased him.

1:54 Speaker 1: Oh very cool. Yeah, I know you brought a couple of copies of the CD. We did coming into the segment we play Convulsive Ways from a World beyond the longest title for the longest song on the disc, it would seem Oh yeah, very cool. No, I like it. Who came up with the logo? Was that one of you guys?

2:11 Speaker 6: Or there's somebody in Arizona, some guy that we all knew in the band that makes logos?

2:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. I like this make America metal again. So that's uh, that's something I think we can all agree on. And oh now this is what I this is my favorite part. Oh actually, there's a couple of things here. So wait a minute. Oh you guys did vinyl awesome? Let me hold that up for everybody if you're watching online on Facebook or YouTube. Very cool, very cool. You know two with the vinyl, it makes it seem like it's there's something just classic about it. The way the artwork, that's that's awesome.

2:56 Speaker 1: Wow, well done guys.

2:58 Speaker 6: It almost feels more real having a fine on your hand.

3:00 Speaker 1: It really does. It really does. Yeah, that's fantastic, especially when it's released through a label. Oh yeah, we'll talk about that absolutely. And I love that you got as shirt here, so you got the vigil logo on the front. You get that in the camera. There, there we go, it's just on the back. What's going on on the back there?

3:21 Speaker 6: So on the back, it's kind of a neat story. There's there's a guy I found on Facebook named Brian Casasi had to pronounce. Yeah, he's from Canada. He makes really bizarre art, painted art, okay. And I came across that image and I asked him if it was available for use, and he said yes, and he said it was free. I felt bad not paying for it because it's still art, so I paid for it anyway. And then I actually have that actual painting at my house. He sent it to me. Yeah, but I love the outwork the guy does, so I asked him if you can use it?

3:49 Speaker 1: Oh, that is very cool. Thank you guys, thank you very much. Now that's awesome. If you are just joining us, we have Vigil here with us live in studio. Let's talk about so this this is released through a label.

4:01 Speaker 6: Yes, it's Argonauta Records out of Italy.

4:03 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, okay, Now, how did you how did you get to work with them? How did that come about?

4:10 Speaker 6: So we were we were looking to release the album and it's as you know, it's expensive to make any kind of physical media, and we were looking at a pretty good amount of money to make just Viles alone. Yeah, so I was trying to shop what we did to labels to see if they just pick it up to help us distribute and manufacture. Yeah, and Argonaut it gave us a great deal on what it would cost to manufacture and distribute that. So so we have more of what they call a production deal than a record deal. Right, but it was literally half the price that would have cost us to do it.

4:39 Speaker 6: Oh, no kidding. So they did it for half the price, and we got on their roster on their website, some promotion from them for two years, so all that helped too, and it was a good deal, so we just took it.

4:50 Speaker 7: Yeah, the album was already recorded by that time. We started looking for someone to help with the production. Oh okay, so they didn't have to foot the bill for any other studio costs.

4:59 Speaker 1: Right, Oh that's actually yeah, Oh, very good, very good. Yeah, we live in an amazing time where, you know, because I'm certainly old enough to remember when your only options where you know, you find a record label you hope, hope they give you some sort of an advance and then you know, hopefully they make you famous.

5:15 Speaker 6: Right.

5:16 Speaker 1: But now we live in a time where there's so many different ways to release music and you know, you can do it all yourself, you can connect with different people, you can you know, work with a company in Italy.

5:24 Speaker 5: Who's who's doing this for you? I mean that's amazing.

5:26 Speaker 1: So so it really is a it's it's such an interesting time to be alive and in the music industry in that sense.

5:32 Speaker 6: And you know, and for us part of it is too. You know, we're all a little older and this is more of a a full time job for us, right, So spending the money and the time is really difficult sometimes. So having someone just kind of helped on that way helps a lot.

5:47 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely like us too.

5:49 Speaker 3: So we have a good, you know, relationship with them, and yeah we'll see you know what kind of happens in the future with with some new music.

5:57 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

5:58 Speaker 2: They're really good at what they do too.

6:00 Speaker 8: And the album is sold out through the online.

6:04 Speaker 2: You want to get the vinyl for them? Oh no kidding, Yeah, I get it through us now.

6:09 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh that's got to feel good.

6:11 Speaker 2: We sell a lot at our shows too.

6:13 Speaker 3: We played a show two Saturdays ago. Yeah, and we sold uh you know, crap ton of vinyl there too, So you know, people are really into the you know to the you know, to the format of the vinyl.

6:24 Speaker 5: But yeah, the sound of it.

6:26 Speaker 3: Is really great too, So that helps us out a lot. And yeah, you know we actually like you know, paid for you know, a good studio, a good studio mix. We have a guy that we go through who's who's really solid for us, and we'll you know, continue to work together with him.

6:39 Speaker 2: Yeah.

6:40 Speaker 1: I was curious about where you recorded because.

6:42 Speaker 2: Iron Hills Studio is in Newton.

6:43 Speaker 1: Amshure, Okay. And how did you come to record there? Because you have so many different options now in terms of recording, and there's there's a million studios around.

6:51 Speaker 5: How did how did that come?

6:54 Speaker 6: So I've known Aaron. I've known Aaron for over a decade from you used to work at Guitar Center, lived up North, Okay. And uh, I crossed past them that when he's stay in touch with him. Yeah, he's been in some metal bands himself, and he opened up a studio and just out of curiosity I checked out so mu stuff he did, and I saw that he was right down the alley of what we're doing. So he understands what we do, understands our product. Yes, and he's a great dude to work with too. He's really chill yeah and uh really really good musicians.

7:19 Speaker 6: So he's paid great years. Yeah, you have to be so overall, it was just I knew the guy and he does a good product, so yeah why not?

7:27 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, excellent?

7:29 Speaker 1: How did this? How did this come about? Vigil is relatively new, right, I mean it's been a few years, but it's not like it's not like ten years or something, right, It's.

7:37 Speaker 6: Right, it's just just before COVID wiped out the planet twenty nineteen. We just started then and then we have to deal with the whole COVID thing.

7:43 Speaker 1: So a little longer than I thought. I swear. The pandemic causes so much time distortion. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like it's hard to sometimes it's hard to uh like I know when you were on the show before, I knew it was pre pandemic, but I but it's hard to be sure. It's weird. It's like what was the world. It's like this time miss, It's like this time missing. Yeah, no it see it almost seems.

8:02 Speaker 2: Like another life the world.

8:04 Speaker 1: Yes, but yeah, so you guys have been together longer than I thought.

8:08 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, okay, it was a it was a challenge, you know, to get through because of course, as you start the band, you're trying to build it, bring people in, you know, and uh and yeah, and then Covid slowed things down. Yeah, and then it ramped up again. So we were on agatting off again for a year and a half just to get it off the ground.

8:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, that must have been That must have been frustrating.

8:26 Speaker 6: But then we hit a we hit us ride and we moved forward.

8:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Well we should play another track from the album, but uh, I'll let you guys pick what.

8:35 Speaker 7: Uh.

8:36 Speaker 5: I don't know if you have something you're pushing as a single.

8:38 Speaker 6: Or well, the the the actual single that we first released was.

8:43 Speaker 2: It's the first song on the album.

8:44 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's a that's a pretty good one to play a thing too, because it hits the cornerstone of all the things we do as it has some like euro doom feel. It has some thrashy parts. Okay, you know, it has has a choir thing that you know, Brendan sings the high voice fire on.

8:59 Speaker 1: It, so I'll oh, no kidding, okay, cool, it's a good example. Yeah, we'll play that next sent So let's descend to extinction, sir. All right, cool, let's go with that. If you're just joining us, we have Vigil here with us, alive in studio, and check this out.

9:10 Speaker 5: This is descend to extinction.

9:13 Speaker 1: That's cool. I love the way that ends. That is so cool. That is descend, descend to extinction. The band is Vigil, who we have live in studio. The entire band is here and it's great to speak with them. We were kind of talking off air about so this is available in a number of stores, the new album.

9:32 Speaker 5: We should mention that. Yeah.

9:33 Speaker 7: So we we did a little circuit probably what four months ago and dropped off several copies, and we just want to mention some of the places you know that were nice enough to you know, put the album on the shelf. Oh yeah, reach out when they sell out and restock. So we have Full Circle Vinyl and Meredith New Hampshire, New Hampshire Vintage Vinyl and Laconia Skeleton in Rochester, who's been huge, hugely supportive for us, Pitchfork Records and Conquered and the music connection right here in Manchester outstanding.

10:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's important too, because you know a lot of these UH stores. It's funny how and again I'm old enough to remember when well, first of all, when people would predict, you know, people have been predicting for years that those kinds of stores are just going to go away.

10:16 Speaker 5: But of course people also predict.

10:18 Speaker 1: For years that you know, CDs are going to go away, vinyl is going to go away, all this stuff is going to go away, and and it doesn't go away. And it's it's so cool that there are still you know that there are still places like that. There there are still stores like that that you can go to and and buy music. And it's not all. Don't get me wrong. I love the Internet and I love that. I do love living in a time where I can find anything online, like literally anything like if I you know, if I suddenly for some reason want to hear some Norwegian speed metal or whatever, I can probably find some online.

10:48 Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, so you're on the streaming services because that, I mean, that's important, you know, that's absolutely critical.

10:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was another part of the the production deal was they set us up on all the streaming platforms.

11:03 Speaker 5: Excellent, Yeah, excellent.

11:04 Speaker 1: It's cool that they do all that for you too, because you know, not everyone, not everyone enjoys having to do all that part of the business, you know, you know, the really important thing is playing music. We were also talking off there about all that went into recording, with the layering of the tracks and everything, and you know, because an observation that I made was a lot of times music that's in this genre doesn't always sound that great, you know, if it's if it's a local band or you know, maybe they maybe the recording isn't that great, sounds a little thin or whatever.

11:36 Speaker 1: But this sounds completely professional, and it's it's the way heavy music should sound. It's it's a wall of sound. It's it sounds fantastic in the headphones. And yeah, you guys were talking about you know, it was a lot of work recording this, right, Yeah, it was.

11:52 Speaker 8: I mean for me, the first day that I started recording vocal, I was working all day, so I talk a lot during the day and stuff, so I was a little strained. Showed up to the studio and uh, I went five hours of record singing, and at the end of the night, Aaron said to me, yeah, you know what he did good, but we.

12:14 Speaker 2: Have to erase everything you did. We recorded.

12:17 Speaker 8: It wasn't good enough for him. And I was thinking I was doing a good job. But the next morning I showed up to record again and he made this magic tea that just turned me into a monster.

12:31 Speaker 5: Yeah.

12:31 Speaker 8: Yeah, and ever since, I mean that he he I learned a lot from Eric.

12:35 Speaker 2: I mean it was a great experience.

12:37 Speaker 8: Yeah, and he actually was teaching me techniques as far as singing. Even now live when he's done sound for us, he's looking at me and he's like, don't cup the mic, you know. He's like he just like like my dad yelling in a good way.

12:52 Speaker 5: Yeah.

12:53 Speaker 1: So, now, so this concoction that he made for you, I mean, do you know what was in it for for other vote less who might or no.

13:04 Speaker 7: Information?

13:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, job security.

13:07 Speaker 2: I can't tell you.

13:10 Speaker 7: That's Aaron's ip. Yeah, if he gives us the green line, we can share it.

13:14 Speaker 5: Right right now. That makes sense. That makes sense.

13:17 Speaker 1: And uh, Brandon, you were talking too about having to do the drums all in one day.

13:22 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because uh so it's just kind of funny, like like one of those fluke things that that happens sometimes. His computer died. We really know exactly what happened. So we lost like six hours that whole day of recording, and I only do my drum tracks one day. Yeah, so I think I did the whole album in like four hours.

13:38 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, and I didn't.

13:39 Speaker 3: Get to really do like any of the the redo's or anything, so right, I mean, obviously it's a little bit edited, but that's just like you know the nature of of you know, production, Every album that you hear ever is edited.

13:50 Speaker 1: Oh of course, yeah.

13:51 Speaker 5: Absolutely.

13:52 Speaker 3: The key is making sure that that we can do the sound live, and we do that, you know, and then some so.

13:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you guys were also saying too, the only thing missing live is any keyboard that's in there. But nobody misses the keyboard, right because it's a wall of sound, and you guys, are no one's ever brought it up right exactly exactly.

14:09 Speaker 3: Or the clean singing no one there to me either, Yeah to them.

14:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember if we talked about that on Are, but yeah, the clean singing is you with me and and for you, but for you to do that and play drums at the same time, would be.

14:21 Speaker 3: I tried it a couple of times a couple of our shows, and I just I'm so focused on kind of like where I'm doing, yeah, or you know, what I'm doing, where I'm going, that it's it's hard to kind of, you know, carry the melody and still be on point. So I just kind of focus on the instrument and then we'll do all the vocal stuff later.

14:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, well plus two. I mean, drums is the most physical instrument You're using all four of your.

14:40 Speaker 3: Lembs, most important part of the band.

14:42 Speaker 1: Matt, Yes, well, yes, man, you could say that.

14:45 Speaker 6: Yes, well, the machines, but they're drum machines.

14:49 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, your band is only as good as your.

14:55 Speaker 1: Good point.

14:56 Speaker 2: Good point.

14:57 Speaker 1: Now, have you guys all, I assume you've all been in other bands in the scene prior to vigil Or.

15:01 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, I've been playing in bands until sixteen.

15:04 Speaker 5: Yeah.

15:04 Speaker 7: Yeah, some of us took a little bit of a vacation from music. Yeah, I was way out of the scene. I was in bands in the late nineties. Yeah, and then I kind of got obsessed with cars and then started a family, and I didn't touch music for eighteen or so years, eighteen until I met this guy at work one day, and yeah, he talked me into picking up the bass and starting to mess around again. And I quickly realized, like, wow, I should probably get a new instrument here because this thing's old.

15:31 Speaker 5: Yep.

15:32 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I just fell right back down the rabbit hole. Yeah, here we are.

15:36 Speaker 1: But did you always I mean, eighteen years is a long time, But did you always kind of know in the back of your mind that you're going to know?

15:42 Speaker 7: I didn't know. Actually, I was on a different path for a long time. Yeah, not a bad one. Just playing music was not on my priorities. Yeah, but everybody else in this band is very active in the music industry for decades, I guess at this point, depending on who we're talking about, eighty nine was my first band.

16:02 Speaker 8: Two thousand and four for me, Yeah, I go back to the days when I was in college and I started a little trash metal type of band. I was playing drums at the time, and then, uh, I wanted to do something more extreme because I always like death metal. That's why my vocals are death metal inspired. And in Boston I was playing drums with a band called Summoning Eight are still active.

16:31 Speaker 2: Uh. Then I would and form a little side project.

16:33 Speaker 8: It was like a grindcore death metal band, Vicious Insanity.

16:37 Speaker 2: I did some session drumming and some other bands.

16:40 Speaker 6: Uh.

16:40 Speaker 8: And then uh, from that, I went to sing for Untuned, which is another band I was. That's when my Vocal Journey sat it. And then going to shows, I met Justin. I was playing guitar for us, and I've done Justin for a long time. Justin has been always a doom guy and going into like Boston, going and going to shows, we talked about doom. Yeah, and that's how I actually ended up with Vigil okay, telling me that he was doing something like a project. He sent me the songs, and I mean it was what I was looking for right up my alley.

17:15 Speaker 8: I showed up for the first rehearsal and I was kind of afraid to growl because I think they actually liked it.

17:25 Speaker 2: Have something here, So yeah, that's that's where I am now.

17:28 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the impression this all came together pretty quickly, right. It sounds like it was, you know, a situation where it's like that magic is there right away. Although I know Randy, you you came in later, right, but you were already kind of working with these guys in a sense, right.

17:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been scrambling around, scrambling around a little bit with Craig in another side project that we have a World Worth Burning where it's just instrumental, but there would always be discussion about what was going on in Vigil, So I kind of had an ear to the wall about that.

18:02 Speaker 1: But but yeah, you guys have a that's a cool name, A World Worth Burning like that.

18:09 Speaker 6: Yeah, And again that that was one of the successes out of COVID. Like, like I had said earlier, during COVID, the band kind of slowed down a little bit, Yeah, because everyone was afraid to be in a room. We didn't know what was going on. Yeah, And you know, me and Joe we're still spending time together, like doing stuff as friends, right, and we're like, well, we should just be using the room because we're still here, right, And we started working on Vigil stuff. But then we started to just like play other things.

18:32 Speaker 6: And I've always wanted to be like an instrumental post rock type band, so the music kind of developed into that, and then then we we kind of started a side project by accident, just because I needed some of it for these songs ago that weren't going to fit anything else. So and that's kind of where Randy shows up, you know, because he was in a room across the hall. Yeah, and I knew he played, and he played really well, so we brought him in to try it out and it worked.

18:56 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's outstanding, excellent.

19:00 Speaker 1: Uh we should uh, you guys want to play another track from the from the EP. I guess it's an EP, right, you call it an EP or now the songs it's only four songs, but they're kind of long.

19:09 Speaker 5: It's long.

19:12 Speaker 7: Before yeah, yeah, probably the next best example of what we're all about.

19:18 Speaker 5: Okay.

19:18 Speaker 3: It's usually like our second song on the set, we go right into that after our first song. Oh okay, usually a pretty good let in.

19:25 Speaker 7: By the way, who writes the lyrics, So it's a mix of us, kind of kind of my committee.

19:30 Speaker 3: Yeah.

19:30 Speaker 2: Yeah.

19:31 Speaker 7: Everybody brings in a lot of ideas, but Dave write, Dave writing the bulk of them.

19:35 Speaker 2: Okay, So the first song that sent to extension was justin yeah.

19:39 Speaker 6: Uh.

19:40 Speaker 8: Then we go into the other three songs, which is the Roussian of the Soul.

19:44 Speaker 2: I did the lyrics on that.

19:46 Speaker 8: I did the lyrics on Words of a Dying Man and convulsive ways more world view.

19:52 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well let's give this a spin. If you're just joining us. We have the band Vigil here with us live in studio, and this is called Erosion the Soul. That is Erosion of the Soul and the band is Vigil, who we have here with us alive in studio on this Saturday morning.

20:08 Speaker 5: And I love it. I love it. Great stuff.

20:11 Speaker 1: Are you guys? Do you guys play out a lot?

20:13 Speaker 5: Do you do a lot of shows or what's what's the.

20:16 Speaker 3: So twenty twenty four was a was a pretty uh it's a busy year for us. I think I think this is the most you know, shows that we played. Yeah, we try to play a show a month, you know, but actually we we wrapped up our.

20:29 Speaker 2: Show season like two weeks ago.

20:30 Speaker 3: Okay, We're gonna actually gonna go back and go back in the lab and start writing some stuff now.

20:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it seems like winter is the best time to do that.

20:38 Speaker 3: Right because I have a couple of songs that that are that are are done that. But you know that we've been playing for like over a.

20:43 Speaker 2: Year now, okay, okay, but as far as.

20:46 Speaker 3: You know, formulating a new album, like you know, we're across that vision, we get there. But yeah, have some more stuff that we're gonna work on, you know for the word time.

20:53 Speaker 1: Oh very good.

20:53 Speaker 3: I don't think we'll play a show again until probably late you know, late spring, even early summer.

20:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean winter is like the worst time to go out and play, you know, with the weather and.

21:02 Speaker 7: People don't want to go to shows.

21:04 Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's it's I mean, you know, I appreciate the people who persist, but it's it's hard.

21:10 Speaker 4: Especially especially moving gear in the snow.

21:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, exactly.

21:14 Speaker 7: Well, we actually played a show that really really really abysmal cold day last year where it was like negative eighteen degrees. Oh yeah, we played in Revere that night on the beach.

21:24 Speaker 5: Oh my god.

21:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was I don't even think all the band members showed up. For the other bands that played the show, nobody went to the show.

21:32 Speaker 2: Wow.

21:33 Speaker 7: Yeah that was tough.

21:35 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you guys did it though, how metal is that right?

21:37 Speaker 2: Yeah?

21:38 Speaker 1: We did it.

21:39 Speaker 3: Because we you know, we usually headlining.

21:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a big part of it.

21:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's cool.

21:46 Speaker 1: Are there other bands in the area this kind of happens organically. Are there other bands that you've kind of teamed up with on shows that you play a lot.

21:52 Speaker 2: Of shows with.

21:52 Speaker 7: Absolutely, there's a good handful of bands that we really enjoy not just playing with but watching. Yeah, we go to as many local shows as we can. Yeah, we like to make connections. There's a band, there's, well, there's there's a lot of bands that we are friends with, you know, through the through the industry. And yeah, Glacier out of Boston is a huge for me anyway that they're one of my favorite local local acts right now. There's a Manchester band Geey. I don't know if you've ever heard of them, also post metal, their unbelievably unbelievable band.

22:25 Speaker 7: Able Blood is another band.

22:26 Speaker 1: Love Blood. IM gonna see We're going to see them tomorrow at Spelfy Pests.

22:29 Speaker 7: Actually Blood, we really dig those guys. Yeah, yeah, who well who else? Realm, Benthic Realm. Yeah, we just with them the last year we played able Blood also played that show.

22:43 Speaker 6: The guys in dust Profit who are a local band, Froom.

22:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be in a band with Auto many many many years ago.

22:50 Speaker 6: Yeah, we like we like them, you know, they're good people with me.

22:53 Speaker 3: You know, there's a few the two man project with him for a while you did. Yeah, I didn't know that that was called skin Drone.

22:59 Speaker 5: You were in Skindrow. I'll be damned, I didn't.

23:02 Speaker 1: I didn't put that together. I probably knew that in the back of my mind because it seems weird that I wouldn't know that, but but I I.

23:09 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't.

23:10 Speaker 3: We didn't really do a whole lot.

23:12 Speaker 2: We play a couple of shows, but it was it.

23:15 Speaker 3: Was a you know, a two man thing with vocals and my guitar, I mean, had some drum programming. It was like a industrial like you know, it's death metal thing.

23:24 Speaker 2: Yeah.

23:25 Speaker 3: And then uh, I left that to go do another band. And then I left that.

23:29 Speaker 2: Band because I had deployed. That was in the military at the time.

23:31 Speaker 6: Ye.

23:32 Speaker 2: So and then.

23:32 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, just kind of been we're getting on the weed.

23:38 Speaker 2: Yeah.

23:38 Speaker 8: The good thing too, is that any Hampshire it's a lot of good bands. Joe mentioned even Yeah, and we're very close, you know, we before each other. We go to their shows. They come through our shows, especially at Hampshire. Now there's quite a handful of bands that I just out there that for each other. Yeah, Geary, Geary's awesome, awesome band from able Blood too. A couple of the bands that we want to play with. Conclave another great band that we haven't been able to play show with yet. Okay, the guys from Black Acid Prophecy out of Rhode Island, like Pyramid two.

24:12 Speaker 8: It's just because you know the are We're all busy, so it's kind of hard to put us together in a room and play a show together. Sometimes we got like great offers to play great shows, but somebody's always busy. Yeah, hard to keep up with life, that part can be hard enough to get practices attended.

24:30 Speaker 7: Four bands with four or five dudes each, to get everybody a night off to play a show.

24:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what can be a thing, no doubt, no doubt before we run out of time, because I do want to get the last song in two words of a dying man. But anything we should know? What should people know about? How to keep up with everything the Vigil is doing. Where's the best place to go online?

24:51 Speaker 2: All right?

24:52 Speaker 7: So?

24:52 Speaker 6: Uh, we we have a we have a Facebook page, So just look up Vigil and you'll find it. Yeah. Uh, Vigil Doom is our band camp. Okay, So and we're on Spotify. You can fast some Apple music. We have a YouTube presence through Argonauto Records, yes, yes, and you can also find any one of us on our personal pages too, you know, but by name and uh we respond that way either way too.

25:18 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much in every platform.

25:20 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, thanks to the label, So Spotify, YouTube music or everywhere pretty much.

25:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, excellent, excellent, And uh.

25:31 Speaker 1: What do you what do you have coming? Do you have another show coming up this year?

25:34 Speaker 3: No, we already played that show.

25:36 Speaker 1: That's uh, that was two weeks ago at Ato And okay.

25:39 Speaker 7: This is a show in the works for June, but we don't have a solid date yet. Oh okay, yeah, it's not worth really talking about.

25:46 Speaker 1: Right, So so next So probably you were saying earlier, probably spring.

25:51 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're probably looking at spring.

25:53 Speaker 6: It'll probably be that that show we're working on building right now.

25:55 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, excellent.

25:57 Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen you guys live, so I look forward to seeing you live and future and that'll be that'll be great and uh and I love the Thank you again. By the way, for that's so cool that you brought a vinyl copy of that.

26:09 Speaker 5: That's awesome.

26:09 Speaker 1: I love it so uh Vigil, thank you all five of you, And we'll close out the segment with words of a dying Man. Anything you want us. I mean we were kind of talking off there a little bit about it, but anything we should know about this song before.

26:21 Speaker 6: Actually, one of the coolest things about the song I think is instead of instead of playing guitar on the song, I'm on a Fender Base six guitar, which is a long scale or short scale bass basically, but I played it through my guitar rigs, so it's like a guitar but stringth Oh no, kiddle. This song is kind of a different tone to it, Yeah song, Yeah, songs a lot different. Yeah. This is like our outliar, It's like our weird song.

26:44 Speaker 8: We haven't played it in a while, but I think we kind of don't play this song yet anymore.

26:49 Speaker 1: Oh okay.

26:50 Speaker 2: For me is a personal touch because it talks.

26:52 Speaker 8: About my grandfather dying, yeah, and the journey of like me seeing him literally passing away, yeah, and me just thinking it's some point we're going to meet again, right, somewhere right, So it's it's personal, Okay, it was it was hard to sing live when I was every time I do the song, but yeah, yeah, I.

27:10 Speaker 7: Mean we sort of supplanted this song with one or two of the newer ones that we're working on.

27:15 Speaker 1: So gotcha, gotcha, all right, So we're gonna end with that in a moment. And of course I want to remind everybody Spelfy Fest tomorrow at Jewel Uh.

27:24 Speaker 5: Come see us.

27:25 Speaker 1: Jenny will be given a short talk there and I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna MC and UH do some stuff.

27:32 Speaker 4: Proceeds are going to benefit the r s c S, a sympathetic distribute organization raising awareness for c r p S.

27:40 Speaker 5: And there's going to be a ton of great bands there.

27:42 Speaker 1: So yeah, and find out more on me at gencopy dot com.

27:45 Speaker 5: J E N N c O f f UI dot com.

27:48 Speaker 7: Yes, definitely attend that show. The Midnight Creative is correct collective. They are a great group of people. Absolutely, Eleanor and Andre have been very supportive of us. We played at their other venue in National Terminus Back can get Back in September.

28:01 Speaker 5: Artwork on display.

28:02 Speaker 7: They are fantastic and they're all about local art, not just music, all of the arts. So if you can support them and what they're doing, that's huge.

28:11 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely no, we love them very much, all right. So we will close with this, and if you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at wmn hradio dot org and in my website Matt connorton dot com.

28:23 Speaker 5: But here it is.

28:23 Speaker 1: This is called Words of a Dying Man. The band is vigil Thanks guys, thanks, thank you for having us