Matt Connarton Unleashed: Temple Mountain debuts "Stacy's Song"

0:00 Speaker 1: What a beautiful song that is called Stacy. And we

0:05 Speaker 1: have the writer and composer and singer and guitarist and

0:09 Speaker 1: from Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio.

0:13 Speaker 1: We get that mic up, Hello, Eric, Hey, how are

0:15 Speaker 1: we doing?

0:16 Speaker 2: Let's see how do I sound good?

0:19 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna boosome that volume a little bit.

0:23 Speaker 3: Heard.

0:24 Speaker 1: Eric's gonna play live for us this morning, So I

0:26 Speaker 1: want to make sure we can hear you. Okay, I

0:30 Speaker 1: think we're I think we're good. Yeah, congratulations, that just

0:33 Speaker 1: came out Stacy.

0:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Stacy's song has been out since today, and yeah,

0:40 Speaker 2: it's the series of probably several singles that are gonna

0:43 Speaker 2: be coming in the near future. So I have like

0:45 Speaker 2: at least seven or eight more.

0:47 Speaker 1: Okay, So has this been played on the radio before

0:51 Speaker 1: today World Radio Premiere? We have it excellent, excellent. So

0:56 Speaker 1: when you say it's out today, so it's on all

0:58 Speaker 1: the streaming platform platform.

1:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I have a video an official video

1:03 Speaker 2: that uh I handa B Photography and I filmed together

1:07 Speaker 2: that I'm going to be releasing soon too.

1:10 Speaker 1: Very good. Well, like how soon, like within the next

1:14 Speaker 1: couple of weeks.

1:15 Speaker 2: So you would think with someone who's passionate, they would

1:18 Speaker 2: have a date set, but I haven't. I haven't put it.

1:21 Speaker 2: We we kind of created that video so extemporaneously and

1:24 Speaker 2: very last minute. So it's done and it's ready. I

1:27 Speaker 2: could release it now, but I don't know when I

1:29 Speaker 2: want to do it right right?

1:30 Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. Yeah, you want to wait till

1:32 Speaker 1: the time is right? Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And so you said,

1:35 Speaker 1: so you're releasing a series of singles.

1:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing you You ever heard the Waterfall Effect? Yes, yes,

1:41 Speaker 2: I've heard. I don't really want to do it because

1:44 Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of it, but it seems

1:47 Speaker 2: to everyone's just telling me to do it. So I'm like,

1:49 Speaker 2: why don't I do it this time around and then

1:50 Speaker 2: the next album I can do it the way I

1:52 Speaker 2: want to do it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm releasing probably

1:56 Speaker 2: every other month, I'm going to release a song.

1:58 Speaker 1: You're a previous because you have the album Schema, which

2:01 Speaker 1: we've played songs from before. So but this time so

2:05 Speaker 1: will the singles that you're releasing will they eventually?

2:08 Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's going to release. The album is gonna

2:11 Speaker 2: be called Case Studies. And you had the artists who

2:15 Speaker 2: did the artwork for it on the show Kira Curtis.

2:17 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right, we talked about that.

2:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the final album artwork, and then for

2:22 Speaker 2: all the singles, I want to get local artists to

2:24 Speaker 2: kind of create the what what would you call it,

2:27 Speaker 2: the Spotify single template for it.

2:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, very cool,

2:33 Speaker 1: very cool are these? Uh So Schema obviously kind of

2:38 Speaker 1: has a theme.

2:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I took that out this time.

2:41 Speaker 1: Okay.

2:42 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's in there because I think

2:44 Speaker 2: in that kind of way, but in terms of titles

2:49 Speaker 2: and overall concept, I just wanted to kind of rein free.

2:54 Speaker 2: There was I put a lot of restrictions on Schema,

2:56 Speaker 2: like there's only you know, you play guitar or correct. Yeah,

3:01 Speaker 2: so there's only like certain shapes that I restricted myself

3:04 Speaker 2: to to create songs with. For this time around, I

3:06 Speaker 2: was like, let me experiment more of harmony and let

3:09 Speaker 2: me experiment more with just I just wanted to be

3:15 Speaker 2: completely and I even went to like a studio this

3:18 Speaker 2: time around to like record them and act in Massachusetts.

3:21 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to try something new.

3:23 Speaker 1: Okay. So that's where Stacey was recorded.

3:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Spring sounds okay. Josh is awesome. I

3:29 Speaker 2: love the guy.

3:30 Speaker 1: Now how did you connect with him and why did

3:32 Speaker 1: you decide to work with him?

3:33 Speaker 2: I was looking at places that offered tape recording because

3:38 Speaker 2: I was because you know, why not and they don't

3:42 Speaker 2: do that? But they came up and I saw their

3:43 Speaker 2: rates and I was like, that's affordable.

3:46 Speaker 1: So so you were looking for so when you say

3:49 Speaker 1: tape recording, so you were looking for that.

3:50 Speaker 2: I was looking for like real to real that wow,

3:55 Speaker 2: and it's it's possible. It's just then I started I

3:59 Speaker 2: get really in my head about these things. It's like

4:00 Speaker 2: would that be a cliche? Would that be a little

4:03 Speaker 2: bit of a gimmick? And so then I found them

4:06 Speaker 2: and I was like, why don't I just give this

4:07 Speaker 2: a try? And Josh, what's cool is I'm a big

4:10 Speaker 2: Elliott Smith fan. And they have the original microphones that

4:14 Speaker 2: Elliott Smith used on his Lucky three documentary, which is

4:18 Speaker 2: like the mike, it's a Newman something. I forget what

4:21 Speaker 2: they're called, but kay, So just I got to record

4:24 Speaker 2: the whole album with those microphones.

4:25 Speaker 1: So oh, very cool.

4:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I mean it meant a lot

4:29 Speaker 2: to me, that's awesome.

4:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am curious. Were you able to find I

4:34 Speaker 1: assume not in the area. Were you able to find

4:37 Speaker 1: a studio that does reel to real when you were

4:39 Speaker 1: looking online?

4:39 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah absolutely. And I had a friend, my

4:43 Speaker 2: friend Josh, he actually has like a four track set recorder,

4:46 Speaker 2: and I was thinking about doing something like that. But

4:49 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's so funny you because I was

4:52 Speaker 2: just thinking about this. I kind of want to make

4:54 Speaker 2: an album and I know saying this live on the air,

4:57 Speaker 2: like it's silly, but I want to create album where

5:00 Speaker 2: I just record right on my iPhone because to me,

5:02 Speaker 2: the iPhone voicemail app seems to be like the new

5:06 Speaker 2: Lo Fi. And I would like, what can I do

5:09 Speaker 2: with that? And maybe I could do something kind of

5:10 Speaker 2: Nick Drake like and like do a lot of fingerpicking

5:13 Speaker 2: and vocal intimate stuff and like it won't sound like

5:16 Speaker 2: high professional, but that's like that's the point, yeah, right right.

5:20 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:22 Speaker 2: I love when it sounds like you're there, you know,

5:27 Speaker 2: when it's not like. I love the room noise. I

5:30 Speaker 2: love everything about that.

5:31 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:31 Speaker 2: I love the mistakes.

5:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I know we talked about this before?

5:37 Speaker 1: But how How was Schema recorded.

5:39 Speaker 2: In my in my farmhouse just with like a simple

5:43 Speaker 2: microphone and a Logic Pro and a laptop that couldn't

5:49 Speaker 2: handle Logic Pro. And then I just kind of figured

5:52 Speaker 2: it out. I mixed it myself, so I just did

5:55 Speaker 2: it by ear. I don't really know how to do

5:57 Speaker 2: compression or mike. You know EQ and you know it shows.

6:02 Speaker 2: But I'm really happy. I'm really proud of that album.

6:05 Speaker 2: Every time I listen to it, I'm always like, oh

6:07 Speaker 2: I still.

6:07 Speaker 1: Like this, Yeah, yeah, that's good.

6:10 Speaker 2: That hasn't happened before.

6:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really? Yeah? Have you been self critical in the

6:14 Speaker 1: past of some of.

6:14 Speaker 2: Your pre prozac Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

6:21 Speaker 1: You want to play something a lot? For sure?

6:24 Speaker 2: Could I play an Elliot Smith song?

6:25 Speaker 1: You can play anything you'd like?

6:27 Speaker 2: All right, this is an Elliott Smith song. It's called Angelus.

7:04 Speaker 4: Someone's always coming around here trailing some nucule.

7:13 Speaker 3: Soles seeing your picture on a hundred ta game of

7:22 Speaker 3: chance to you in the swan.

7:27 Speaker 5: Of real skill. So glad to meet you and pick

7:37 Speaker 5: it up.

7:38 Speaker 4: The ticket showstairs, money to be me, go on loose

7:46 Speaker 4: that gamble.

7:47 Speaker 6: That stuff history you have the trade? Did you add

7:53 Speaker 6: up all the cards left to play.

8:00 Speaker 4: Zero.

8:01 Speaker 5: Sign up with Evil Edge Loss.

8:08 Speaker 7: Don't start me try now, uh huh uh huh ahhah uh,

8:21 Speaker 7: because I'm all over it, ed.

8:29 Speaker 4: I can make you satisfied with everything you do. All

8:38 Speaker 4: your secret wishes could right now come back to.

8:42 Speaker 5: You BeForever with fire poison arms around you. No one's

8:54 Speaker 5: gone a fool around first. No one's going a fool

9:02 Speaker 5: to mean you andless.

9:18 Speaker 1: Very cool.

9:20 Speaker 4: I like it.

9:20 Speaker 1: I like it.

9:21 Speaker 2: What's that called Angelus by Elliot Smith?

9:24 Speaker 5: Yeah?

9:24 Speaker 1: I like it. I don't think I've ever heard that before.

9:27 Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

9:27 Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been aware of Elliott Smith and

9:29 Speaker 1: somewhat familiar, but I don't Uh yeah, I don't know

9:32 Speaker 1: that song. But no, I really like it.

9:34 Speaker 2: He's my hero.

9:35 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what is it about him?

9:37 Speaker 2: Is it is?

9:37 Speaker 1: That's a great song? Is it a songwriting?

9:39 Speaker 2: Yes, it's definitely the songwriting. When I was in my

9:42 Speaker 2: senior year of high school, this really cool guy did

9:47 Speaker 2: a English project and we had to choose a song

9:49 Speaker 2: and like talk about how it has symbolic meaning. And

9:51 Speaker 2: he did a song called Between the Bars and I

9:54 Speaker 2: just watched it and it was like everything I wanted

9:56 Speaker 2: to be yeah, and then that It's so funny because

10:01 Speaker 2: it was just coincidence. I watched Goodwill Hunting and he

10:03 Speaker 2: did the music for Goodwill Hunting.

10:05 Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I was watching.

10:06 Speaker 2: I was listening to it. I was like, wow, this

10:08 Speaker 2: is really good. Who is it? And I looked it

10:09 Speaker 2: up at was Elliot Smith And it actually is the

10:11 Speaker 2: reason I got into psychology that movie. So really yeah,

10:14 Speaker 2: so he just I don't know, his playing blows my mind,

10:18 Speaker 2: his songwriting, his voice blows mine and I love it.

10:23 Speaker 4: Yeah.

10:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember if we talked about this before,

10:26 Speaker 1: but so Goodwill Hunting is what inspired you to get

10:29 Speaker 1: into psychology.

10:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this. There's a great scene in that movie

10:32 Speaker 2: where Robin Williams is talking to Matt Damon about laying bricks,

10:37 Speaker 2: and Matt Damon's like making the argument like why are

10:39 Speaker 2: we looking at laying bricks like it's a bad job.

10:42 Speaker 2: That's a noble job. There's honor in that, And it

10:44 Speaker 2: like blew my mind hearing that for the first time

10:46 Speaker 2: and seeing then Matt have a kind of breakthrough. It

10:51 Speaker 2: was like I want to I want to experience that

10:53 Speaker 2: in my lifetime.

10:53 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, the uh if this sounds familiar to you.

10:59 Speaker 1: Then we did talk about this before, But my dad

11:03 Speaker 1: has told me that people have told him that the

11:06 Speaker 1: Robin Williams character reminds that reminds them of him.

11:10 Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I know you're a hypnotist, correct, Yes?

11:14 Speaker 7: Have you?

11:15 Speaker 2: Do you find that? Because hypnotism can create incredible change

11:18 Speaker 2: in a person, is there like a breakthrough moment? Would

11:21 Speaker 2: you say, like, can a person realize there I don't

11:25 Speaker 2: like using the word cured, but when they realize that

11:27 Speaker 2: a problem can maybe get diminished or fixed. Do you

11:31 Speaker 2: experience that yourself or is it more outside the office

11:34 Speaker 2: where they notice that.

11:36 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, it's a great question because

11:38 Speaker 1: sometimes during a session, at the end of it, they're different, Like,

11:45 Speaker 1: not everybody, but sometimes they are, Like I can see

11:48 Speaker 1: the subtle differences even in just how they like their

11:51 Speaker 1: facial expressions, Like they exude a confidence, in a sense

11:56 Speaker 1: of empowerment that clearly was not there before the sets. Well, yeah,

12:01 Speaker 1: and it is. I do love that. I guess such

12:02 Speaker 1: a rush for that's you know. I like to think

12:05 Speaker 1: I have certain skill sets. I'm good at something. I

12:07 Speaker 1: think I'm okay at hosting a talk show, I'm good.

12:09 Speaker 1: I'm good at that. But the one thing I really

12:11 Speaker 1: love is hypnotherapy.

12:12 Speaker 4: Really.

12:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's cool about hitting the therapy too

12:14 Speaker 2: is and people don't talk about this, but hypnotherapy is

12:17 Speaker 2: the reason why psychoanalysis and therapy exists because Freud saw

12:20 Speaker 2: hypnotherapy and was fascinated by it. Yeah, so, like it's

12:23 Speaker 2: such an important part of mental health that we don't

12:27 Speaker 2: talk about a lot. Yeah, it's diminished a little bit,

12:29 Speaker 2: it's coming back and it's diminished, it goes in waves.

12:31 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's used as a party trick, and it's like

12:33 Speaker 2: it's not just that it's it's a form of behavioral therapy,

12:38 Speaker 2: right yeah.

12:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, No, I love I love helping

12:42 Speaker 1: people with it. I do I do a visualization while

12:45 Speaker 1: they're in a state of hypnosis where I have them

12:47 Speaker 1: imagine they're the ideal version of themselves, the version of

12:50 Speaker 1: themselves that they most want to be. Oh wow, and

12:53 Speaker 1: uh yeah, people seem to really get a lot out

12:56 Speaker 1: of that, you know. But yeah, and so you now

13:00 Speaker 1: are you where are you in your career with with

13:03 Speaker 1: uh psycho psychology.

13:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in my third semester of grad school. Excellent

13:08 Speaker 2: I'm actually in my counseling skills class that I adore.

13:11 Speaker 2: I I've been a case manager since the beginning, but

13:15 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to internship. I love case management,

13:18 Speaker 2: but uh, I'm really looking forward to internship because I

13:21 Speaker 2: want to be in the office and you know, just

13:24 Speaker 2: reading up on Yaalam and reading up on Carl Rogers.

13:28 Speaker 2: I think the therapy that I'm interested in the most

13:31 Speaker 2: is Rogarian therapy and like existential therapy. So I'm still

13:35 Speaker 2: trying to and a little bit of solution focused. There's

13:36 Speaker 2: some that's in there. But yeah, I just I'm I

13:41 Speaker 2: got about another year and a half until I am

13:45 Speaker 2: That's like part of my life. Yeah, cool, very exciting,

13:49 Speaker 2: Canton down the days, That's that's excellent.

13:52 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think your music will change

13:54 Speaker 1: when you when you get to that point? How so,

13:56 Speaker 1: like I don't know, Like do you think because obviously

13:59 Speaker 1: you know you have these things in mind, like with schema,

14:02 Speaker 1: you have these things in mind as you're writing these songs.

14:04 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it'll do you think it'll

14:06 Speaker 1: change your perspective at all in terms of how you

14:07 Speaker 1: actually approach your music.

14:09 Speaker 2: I think where I get my most happiness from is

14:11 Speaker 2: playing live, And I mean I've been busy with the

14:15 Speaker 2: music stuff and it's been like two three hour shows

14:17 Speaker 2: playing at bars, playing like you know, can't help falling

14:20 Speaker 2: in love with Elves or hay Jude by the Beatles,

14:23 Speaker 2: And I find a lot of arcists in that, and

14:27 Speaker 2: I don't I think the image that I'm kind of

14:31 Speaker 2: portraying right in front of you right now is kind

14:33 Speaker 2: of what I want to continue doing.

14:34 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:35 Speaker 2: See, at one point I was thinking about do I

14:37 Speaker 2: want a band or nine? That's like that sounds so expensive,

14:41 Speaker 2: right right, So in a lot of ways, yeah, yeah,

14:44 Speaker 2: I think I want to find a healthy balance like

14:48 Speaker 2: and sounds silly, but almost like the Batman thing, you know.

14:50 Speaker 2: By day I do I see patients and I see

14:54 Speaker 2: clients and I help the best I can, and I

14:57 Speaker 2: grow and build relationships. And at night I played music

15:00 Speaker 2: and I grow and build relationships. So yeah, that's and

15:03 Speaker 2: then you know, somewhere in between that also, I'm a

15:06 Speaker 2: happy husband and father, So to me that sounds like

15:10 Speaker 2: the ideal life for me.

15:12 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:12 Speaker 2: Yeah.

15:13 Speaker 1: Do you think people overlook the benefit the psychological benefits

15:20 Speaker 1: of music? Like do you think the it's funny because

15:24 Speaker 1: I've never really thought about it before from this angle,

15:26 Speaker 1: but as we're talking to a personally, like, you know,

15:28 Speaker 1: music in and of itself is such great therapy, even

15:31 Speaker 1: just listening to it, you know, it can really affect

15:33 Speaker 1: how you feel. And but sometimes I wonder if people don't.

15:38 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people do, even if they

15:40 Speaker 1: just don't realize it necessarily consciously. But I think music

15:44 Speaker 1: itself is kind of overlooked in that it can so

15:49 Speaker 1: so much influence how we feel, how we feel about ourselves,

15:53 Speaker 1: and and but it can also be sabotaging I feel.

15:56 Speaker 2: Too, exactly.

15:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, something I've never understood about people is why. I mean,

16:03 Speaker 1: I do get it, but I but I it's not

16:06 Speaker 1: my instinct to do this when someone is sad and

16:09 Speaker 1: they want to listen to sad songs because they feel sad.

16:13 Speaker 1: And I've always been from my entire from when I

16:16 Speaker 1: was a kid, when I was a little kid. If

16:18 Speaker 1: I'm sad, the last thing I want to do is

16:20 Speaker 1: listen to sad music. I want to listen to something

16:23 Speaker 1: that's going to change my state of mind.

16:25 Speaker 2: I think the thing that is actually maybe maybe not

16:29 Speaker 2: maybe I'm getting a tangential, but the thing that's more

16:31 Speaker 2: interesting to me is music you can develop an identity with.

16:36 Speaker 2: You know, if there's a banana across the room, I'm

16:39 Speaker 2: not going to have an identity with that banana. I'm

16:40 Speaker 2: not gonna go like, oh, yeah, that's my favorite type

16:42 Speaker 2: of banana. It's from New Zealand or something like that.

16:45 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if New Zealand grows bananas,

16:47 Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, with music, it can get really

16:51 Speaker 2: idiolating because there can be times where I've had moments

16:56 Speaker 2: where music is my best friend on certain days, and

16:58 Speaker 2: there's certain days where it's just like, oh my god,

17:01 Speaker 2: I've listened to Room for Squares by John Mayer NonStop

17:04 Speaker 2: for a week and then I have an identity crisis. Yeah,

17:07 Speaker 2: so that part doesn't get talked bad enough, where, especially

17:10 Speaker 2: if you're into the arts and you pursue the arts,

17:13 Speaker 2: you have moments of imposter syndrome and identity crisis. And yes,

17:19 Speaker 2: music can be your best friend at the end of

17:20 Speaker 2: the day. And I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is

17:23 Speaker 2: one of the greatest songs of all time, but after

17:26 Speaker 2: listening to it two thousand times, when I listen to

17:28 Speaker 2: it now, it's like, I know what happens on second

17:30 Speaker 2: forty five. I can't listen to that song anymore, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:34 Speaker 2: So it's a it's a balance, and I'm always trying.

17:38 Speaker 2: The other hard thing I want to say is discovering

17:40 Speaker 2: new music for me is really difficult. I try really hard.

17:45 Speaker 2: I look for stuff and it's just there's something going

17:47 Speaker 2: on where my brain's like, nah, keep going. And when

17:51 Speaker 2: I do find somebody, like right now it's been hip hop,

17:53 Speaker 2: I'm like obsessed with just like we were talking about

17:57 Speaker 2: before the show making, like beat making.

17:58 Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

17:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. It's like, finally here's that energetic high

18:04 Speaker 2: I've been looking for.

18:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

18:09 Speaker 2: So you but so you.

18:12 Speaker 1: So you have a hard time though, finding new music

18:14 Speaker 1: that you.

18:14 Speaker 2: Like, especially with acoustic music, because usually when people recommend

18:18 Speaker 2: me acoustic stuff that it would make sense that I

18:21 Speaker 2: should like it, but it just doesn't hit me. Like

18:23 Speaker 2: a good example is Bonaver, very talented musician. People who

18:27 Speaker 2: love Bonaver. You have great taste. I'm not here to

18:29 Speaker 2: try and question that, And then when it comes to

18:31 Speaker 2: my ears and I process it, it's like this isn't

18:33 Speaker 2: for me. It's just not hitting it. I've I don't.

18:37 Speaker 2: Maybe the maybe the problem is I don't actually know

18:40 Speaker 2: what I want. Yeah, yeah, I don't actually have my

18:44 Speaker 2: taste well defined yet in my head?

18:46 Speaker 1: Well does it? Is it also possible that the production

18:49 Speaker 1: is bothering you because because yeah, because you know, you're

18:53 Speaker 1: a low five guy.

18:54 Speaker 2: But I love again, I love smells like teen Spirit,

18:56 Speaker 2: which is the exact opposite of that. So it's like

18:59 Speaker 2: it depends on the context of the music itself, but.

19:02 Speaker 1: Even smells like teen Spirit, the production is different than

19:04 Speaker 1: what like now, everything is so compressed. Yes, yeah, the

19:08 Speaker 1: only people I feel really get it right is uh.

19:12 Speaker 1: I'm not a big country guy, but I gotta say

19:15 Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, Nashville has it down. Oh yeah, yeah,

19:18 Speaker 1: the drums always sound great.

19:20 Speaker 2: You know. This is where it sounds like I almost

19:22 Speaker 2: don't want to come across as like a double like

19:24 Speaker 2: I'm here I making double standards, but like, yeah, for example,

19:27 Speaker 2: like my friend sent me a song by an artist

19:30 Speaker 2: called Dare the songs called girls Don't Play It. It's

19:33 Speaker 2: very raunchy. I love that song. Yeah, it's awesome. I

19:37 Speaker 2: love I love when that stuff is incorporated into like

19:39 Speaker 2: dance music and stuff like that it's like, yes, but

19:42 Speaker 2: when it's incorporated, it's like the acoustic guitar. When I

19:44 Speaker 2: hear an acoustic guitar, especially like like maybe controversible, when

19:49 Speaker 2: I hear guitar that has like elixir strings on it.

19:51 Speaker 2: For those who know what Elexa strings are, they're coded strings.

19:54 Speaker 2: It's like an immediate turnoff from my ears. Oh yeah,

19:57 Speaker 2: I don't like it. It sounds too clean. Yeah, And

20:01 Speaker 2: I want to make it clear, like I don't think

20:02 Speaker 2: that this should be the standard for anyone by any means,

20:05 Speaker 2: like because I'm not the best guitar player of all time.

20:08 Speaker 2: I'm not the best songwriter of all time.

20:09 Speaker 7: I'm not.

20:10 Speaker 2: It's nothing like that. It's just for what I look

20:12 Speaker 2: for to help me grow as a musician. I put

20:14 Speaker 2: these kind of things on a pedestal.

20:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. If

20:19 Speaker 1: you are just joining us, Temple Mountain is here with

20:21 Speaker 1: us alive in studio, and you want.

20:23 Speaker 2: To play another one, Sure, I'll actually play. Because you

20:27 Speaker 2: played Stacy song earlier, I played the next single I'm

20:29 Speaker 2: probably gonna release after that. Oh cool, and I'm probably

20:32 Speaker 2: gonna mess it up, So that's okay. We're only live.

20:35 Speaker 1: It's an original and we won't know.

20:37 Speaker 5: Very good.

20:38 Speaker 2: It's called grateful, all right.

20:59 Speaker 4: Choice of girls so profound, different shades of black and gray.

21:07 Speaker 4: And you're saying the world is round, But i'd seen

21:12 Speaker 4: in different ways, and I've noticed you're holding my soul

21:18 Speaker 4: what tight with a breath that is.

21:21 Speaker 5: Only one way. Oh, it's all right to say that

21:26 Speaker 5: I need you so grateful that meant you.

21:29 Speaker 4: This way, waiting for the moon to bloom, watch the

21:43 Speaker 4: way the stars dictating.

21:47 Speaker 5: My heart is only sat on you.

21:51 Speaker 4: So now I thank you for today. And remember you

21:56 Speaker 4: told me the whole tight, for the world can be a.

22:00 Speaker 5: Dif friend each day.

22:02 Speaker 4: Oh, it's all right to say that I need you

22:07 Speaker 4: so grateful. The met you sway stand by heard again

22:16 Speaker 4: backs our face and then with voices all around, but

22:24 Speaker 4: we never made a sound. All your story is so profound.

22:32 Speaker 4: Now you choose to live each day and it's never

22:37 Speaker 4: up or down. It's not a side that leans your way.

22:43 Speaker 4: And remember you told me to say, for the world

22:49 Speaker 4: has asked you that say. Oh, it's all right to

22:54 Speaker 4: say that I need you so grateful the met you sway.

23:02 Speaker 4: Oh it's all right to say that I need you

23:06 Speaker 4: so grateful to met you today.

23:15 Speaker 1: Beautiful beautiful Temple Mountain live in studio. Well that's so

23:19 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the next single?

23:21 Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, probably in like December.

23:25 Speaker 2: Very good, very good? Is it?

23:26 Speaker 1: Is it difficult to choose what to what to go

23:29 Speaker 1: with next because obviously you've written a lot of songs.

23:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and no, I just kind of do it,

23:36 Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't put too much thought into it.

23:39 Speaker 2: Like the this sounds silly, but like I'm just so,

23:44 Speaker 2: I know social media is important. I don't even think

23:46 Speaker 2: you were just talking about that with the last artist,

23:48 Speaker 2: how important it is on so or maybe that was yesterday.

23:50 Speaker 2: The social media is just so important to do as

23:52 Speaker 2: an artist, But I just don't see it as important.

23:56 Speaker 2: You know, if I wanted to, I can pay twenty

23:59 Speaker 2: bucks and get like fifty fake likes on my Facebook account, right,

24:04 Speaker 2: so like it's artificial, like it's all controlled. Like it's

24:08 Speaker 2: not the same as when I go live and I

24:10 Speaker 2: play a song with someone and connect with them and

24:12 Speaker 2: they come up to me after the show and say, hey,

24:14 Speaker 2: that was really cool. Even if it's just one person,

24:16 Speaker 2: that means way more to me. So yeah, I don't

24:19 Speaker 2: put too much thought. I do allow the releasing and

24:21 Speaker 2: stuff like that just so I can get gigs.

24:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Jenny was just reminding me

24:27 Speaker 1: too online. Do you teach now, Oh you don't teach music. Yeah,

24:31 Speaker 1: I think that's what she meant.

24:32 Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I'm not much of a teacher. It's

24:35 Speaker 2: unfortunately thinking of somebody else.

24:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you uh, you did mention earlier. Sometimes you

24:41 Speaker 1: think about, you know, playing in a band or getting

24:44 Speaker 1: a band together. I mean, how how, how seriously do

24:47 Speaker 1: you do you think about that? Is it possible in

24:49 Speaker 1: the future or is it something that you kind of

24:50 Speaker 1: dismissed when it pops into your head?

24:53 Speaker 2: Or I got a telecaster recently, so oh yeah, telecasts

24:56 Speaker 2: and a jazz coort samp because I really like the

24:58 Speaker 2: sound of it.

24:59 Speaker 1: Okay, I think about it.

25:01 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I don't know how to

25:04 Speaker 2: do it. If if I don't think, I would want

25:06 Speaker 2: to search for it like I would if it happens naturally.

25:10 Speaker 2: That's how I'd be down for it, because I don't

25:12 Speaker 2: want to have like Temple Mountain, then I control the

25:16 Speaker 2: music and everything like that. I want it would be

25:18 Speaker 2: cool if it was something like Queen where it's like

25:20 Speaker 2: I write songs, bass player right songs, and drummer writes

25:22 Speaker 2: songs and we just appreciate each other's songwriting together and

25:26 Speaker 2: we could all sing. That would be awesome.

25:28 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:29 Speaker 4: Yeah.

25:29 Speaker 1: Were you in a band before.

25:32 Speaker 2: Growing up? I was in a death metal band called

25:36 Speaker 2: the Story of Anatomy in New York, but we didn't

25:39 Speaker 2: do anything. Yeah, and then I played I was Eric

25:43 Speaker 2: Phillip in New York City and then because that's my

25:46 Speaker 2: middle name, and that just didn't go very well. And

25:49 Speaker 2: then this this has been really taking off. It's been crazy,

25:52 Speaker 2: and it tell us again, how did you become Temple Mountain? Well,

25:56 Speaker 2: I live in Peterborough, which is right off and I

25:58 Speaker 2: live off a temple mountain. And then, you know, when

26:01 Speaker 2: you're starting to be a licensed therapist, you you learn

26:04 Speaker 2: a lot about both boundaries and confidentiality, and I think

26:07 Speaker 2: it's important that you know. I want to keep this

26:11 Speaker 2: life separate. So it's it's like I said earlier, it's

26:13 Speaker 2: kind of like my batman.

26:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. And uh,

26:18 Speaker 1: by the way, are you married now?

26:20 Speaker 4: No?

26:20 Speaker 2: Not yet?

26:20 Speaker 1: Oh not yet?

26:21 Speaker 4: No?

26:22 Speaker 5: There?

26:23 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, very good wait very good?

26:27 Speaker 1: Is uh Stacy's song? Is that about your It is early? Yeah, excellent? Yeah,

26:32 Speaker 1: I think I think she was in the chat room

26:34 Speaker 1: last time you were on with us. Yeah.

26:35 Speaker 2: She she works for Kobe Sawyer and today is homecoming,

26:40 Speaker 2: so she had to leave work for work today at

26:43 Speaker 2: like six am. She's doing a lot of stuff. So yeah,

26:46 Speaker 2: we're not going to be seeing each other until tomorrow.

26:48 Speaker 2: Probably not in the chat room today, and she is,

26:51 Speaker 2: then Kobe Sawyer should think about that because she's not

26:54 Speaker 2: doing her job.

26:57 Speaker 1: Well do you want to?

26:58 Speaker 4: Uh?

26:59 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got time you play another one for sure.

27:01 Speaker 1: Sure if you are just joining us, A Temple Mountain

27:04 Speaker 1: is here with us, live in studio, and we should

27:07 Speaker 1: tell people too. Last night you were on Granted State

27:09 Speaker 1: of Mind with Rob as a veto. Yeah, so if

27:11 Speaker 1: you want to check that out too, that is of

27:13 Speaker 1: course up on the site.

27:15 Speaker 2: Shout out to Rob.

27:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rob doing amazing things. You've You've played at

27:18 Speaker 1: Pembroke City Limits.

27:19 Speaker 2: So yeah, I played the Nirvana night there.

27:21 Speaker 1: Oh did you Yeah?

27:22 Speaker 2: It was incredible.

27:22 Speaker 1: What song did you do?

27:24 Speaker 4: Oh?

27:25 Speaker 2: Uh, I think I played I'm on a Plane. Oh okay,

27:30 Speaker 2: yeah that's yeah, Yeah, I did that, and then I

27:32 Speaker 2: played something in the way I meant. So what happened

27:35 Speaker 2: was I went in there going to play something in

27:37 Speaker 2: the way, and then like the day before, he asked

27:39 Speaker 2: me if I could play I think it was I'm

27:41 Speaker 2: on a plane.

27:41 Speaker 4: Oh.

27:43 Speaker 2: I was just like yeah, okay, and so I had

27:47 Speaker 2: to kind of figure it out. Yeah, And I remember

27:50 Speaker 2: I drove there like two hours early. I learned the

27:52 Speaker 2: song like two hours before the show, and oh no kidding, Yeah,

27:54 Speaker 2: I was so nervous and it kept blanking because I

27:56 Speaker 2: kept going through the lyrics in my head. And then

27:58 Speaker 2: when you're on stage, something just kind of happens, yeah,

28:00 Speaker 2: and it all comes back to you.

28:01 Speaker 1: Yeah.

28:02 Speaker 2: So I got lucky. It was a good shime and

28:04 Speaker 2: I met so many cool people that night. That was

28:06 Speaker 2: the best part about that show. Yeah, because here you

28:09 Speaker 2: just playing bar gigs. You're always by yourself. You don't

28:11 Speaker 2: get to really see other artists because you're always overlapping.

28:13 Speaker 2: Rob did him in gret where he got all these

28:15 Speaker 2: people coming together.

28:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for those who don't know what we're talking about.

28:19 Speaker 1: So it was a show where everybody, everybody played just one, right,

28:22 Speaker 1: just one Nirvana so two yeah, yeah, do you know

28:27 Speaker 1: how many performers there were that night?

28:29 Speaker 2: Total must have been close to seven or eight.

28:32 Speaker 1: No kidding.

28:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Ben. Do you know Ben Harris? No?

28:37 Speaker 1: I heard him on Rob's show a couple of weeks ago.

28:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a nice guy. So we met. We were

28:42 Speaker 2: speaking online already, and then we met from the show,

28:45 Speaker 2: and then he invited me to play at Panucci's Conquered,

28:47 Speaker 2: So like, we need more shows like that. Yeah, it's

28:50 Speaker 2: a great artist like to help artists. So yes, I

28:54 Speaker 2: really appreciate Rob.

28:55 Speaker 7: For doing that.

28:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah, check out Pembroke City

28:58 Speaker 1: Limits if you haven't been there, it's a great place.

29:01 Speaker 1: Rob's doing great things there. And uh, all right, you

29:04 Speaker 1: were gonna play and I totally derailed you.

29:06 Speaker 2: No, you're fine, but.

29:08 Speaker 1: Devile Mountain is here with us, live in studio, and

29:10 Speaker 1: what are you gonna play for us?

29:12 Speaker 2: This is a song off Schema. It's called Stages of

29:15 Speaker 2: Attachment and with a name like that, you would never guess,

29:18 Speaker 2: but it's about my cat. Oh yeah, all right, very good.

29:22 Speaker 2: So let's see.

29:38 Speaker 5: You try to wake me up, assuming I should rise, So.

29:44 Speaker 4: Pull my blank kid and stay here for Oh how well,

29:51 Speaker 4: just fell for you, and simple life you you could

29:58 Speaker 4: break all the rules.

30:00 Speaker 3: Love you all the time.

30:05 Speaker 5: It's just a little thing sheltered by these walls.

30:12 Speaker 4: Seas like your gaunt eyes, little ginger bards.

30:18 Speaker 5: It's just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.

30:25 Speaker 5: Bring love to you all.

30:26 Speaker 4: You mean everything you do. I remember the day, all

30:34 Speaker 4: the morning drive seven are in the room and you

30:41 Speaker 4: with the sick guy. How your well just came.

30:46 Speaker 5: To me and famild rise.

30:51 Speaker 4: And home you fell asleep, founder powder cried.

30:59 Speaker 5: It just ole thing sheltered by these walks, seems.

31:06 Speaker 4: Like through gold and eyes a little ginger parts.

31:12 Speaker 5: You're just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true.

31:18 Speaker 5: Bring in love to you all. You mean everything you do.

31:25 Speaker 5: And when I get home, it's hello, not goodbye. And

31:31 Speaker 5: when I leave tomorrow you'll always try and cry. You

31:38 Speaker 5: walk your.

31:39 Speaker 4: Sister up zom and she will play, but you know

31:45 Speaker 4: when she's fed up with all your silly games.

31:51 Speaker 5: And the world around.

31:52 Speaker 4: You know how it makes me want to cry, but

31:57 Speaker 4: you know I'll never frown as.

32:00 Speaker 5: You lay by my side. You're just a little thing too,

32:09 Speaker 5: about these walls. You see his life real gold eyes,

32:15 Speaker 5: little ginger boss, You're just a little thing.

32:21 Speaker 8: Your heart is pure and true, bringing love to all

32:26 Speaker 8: you mean, everything you do, bringing love too all you

32:33 Speaker 8: mean and everything you too.

32:48 Speaker 1: Very cool, Thank you.

32:50 Speaker 2: What's that called stages of attachment?

32:51 Speaker 1: Stages of attachment? Yes, yes, Jenny and I have two

32:55 Speaker 1: cats and we love them very much. So I find

32:57 Speaker 1: that song very relatable.

32:58 Speaker 2: Oh I appreciate that. Yeah you don't do you know

33:01 Speaker 2: Dylan Patrick Ward? Does that name sound familiar?

33:03 Speaker 1: Sounds familiar.

33:04 Speaker 2: It's a local songwriter from Vermont. He has a song

33:06 Speaker 2: called the Cat's Song, and when I heard it, I

33:08 Speaker 2: was like, oh, you can write about your cats. That

33:12 Speaker 2: was the inspiration we.

33:13 Speaker 1: Had recently, well a couple months ago, we had the

33:16 Speaker 1: band Turbo Cats.

33:17 Speaker 2: I played with them. Oh okay, yeah I played with

33:19 Speaker 2: that show at Terminus. Oh right, so funny. Oh yeah yeah,

33:23 Speaker 2: god they cracked like in a great way. Yeah awesome,

33:26 Speaker 2: And it was just like they were so seriously like

33:28 Speaker 2: this next song is called licking your leg or something

33:31 Speaker 2: like that. It was brilliant.

33:34 Speaker 1: They have that song I Senior Lady Cat, which because

33:37 Speaker 1: we have a female cat that's you know, getting up there,

33:40 Speaker 1: so we could relate to that.

33:42 Speaker 2: It's really trendy. Right now to sing about your cat.

33:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing. Some people

33:47 Speaker 1: really don't like cats, and yeah, I don't get that.

33:50 Speaker 1: I think I think those people have some sort of

33:53 Speaker 1: psychological issue. Yeah, you could not love cats?

33:56 Speaker 2: Well, just how can you not love any animal? Right,

33:59 Speaker 2: besides a wasp because they hurt?

34:01 Speaker 1: Well, it's not an animal, right, that's an insect?

34:03 Speaker 2: Is an insect? Non animal?

34:05 Speaker 1: I don't think so.

34:06 Speaker 2: But then, but then we were talking about this on

34:09 Speaker 2: a on a Friday night on a cereal of soup.

34:12 Speaker 1: I'm a co host on Retrospect Radio with poly c

34:14 Speaker 1: and Paul was saying that ants actually technically are animals,

34:17 Speaker 1: not insects. And it freaked me out because when I

34:20 Speaker 1: was a kid, my friends and I would light ants

34:23 Speaker 1: on fire in the summertime with the lighter and uh,

34:26 Speaker 1: now I feel terrible about I didn't care when I

34:28 Speaker 1: thought they were insects.

34:29 Speaker 2: You know, they're pre their their pre the size of

34:33 Speaker 2: their brains alone for the for who what the size

34:37 Speaker 2: of them as an animal is alone, like enough to

34:39 Speaker 2: be like, wow, these are very impressive creatures. Cats are ants,

34:44 Speaker 2: cortexes are he really?

34:46 Speaker 1: Is that true? See? Now I feel really bad. Yeah.

34:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, how old are you? Oh I was

34:50 Speaker 2: probably like ten oh yeah times past. Yeah, yeah, I

34:54 Speaker 2: mean I would probably done way worse since then.

34:56 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Oh yeah, you have no idea of course

35:01 Speaker 1: if you are just joining us on this Saturday morning,

35:03 Speaker 1: Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. Are

35:07 Speaker 1: you playing a lot? You're playing pretty consistently.

35:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a showed later today, and then this

35:12 Speaker 2: month I was playing a lot. September I played probably

35:15 Speaker 2: like close to twenty shows. Ohkid, yeah, next month I

35:18 Speaker 2: have probably I think I'm at fifteen right now. I'm

35:21 Speaker 2: trying to get more. So yeah, it's gonna taper down

35:25 Speaker 2: by the new year, but it's slowly growing back. And yeah,

35:29 Speaker 2: I love I have. Two weeks ago, I played three

35:33 Speaker 2: three hour shows in one day, and wow, that was

35:36 Speaker 2: an incredible accomplishment on my end that I was really

35:38 Speaker 2: proud of and I always wanted to because Billy Shean

35:41 Speaker 2: of the ban Talis said that he once did three

35:44 Speaker 2: shows and one day. I was like, I could do that. Yeah,

35:46 Speaker 2: So it was it was a nice kind of Yeah

35:50 Speaker 2: the Farsis three three hour shows. Yeah, I couldn't sing

35:53 Speaker 2: for a little bit after that one that was at

35:55 Speaker 2: a great time.

35:56 Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Like, how did you end?

35:58 Speaker 1: On my own?

35:58 Speaker 2: It's my own stupidity. I just keep saying yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

36:02 Speaker 2: and then I'll be like so that. That was a

36:04 Speaker 2: crazy day too, because I had to go my first

36:07 Speaker 2: gig was in Where's Beach and then I had to

36:09 Speaker 2: drive to Manchester to play at Great North and then

36:12 Speaker 2: I had to go to Foundry and play a Foundry

36:15 Speaker 2: So and Great North was such a shout out to

36:17 Speaker 2: Jesse by the way for that gig. Yes, and I'm

36:20 Speaker 2: glad I brought that up because I want to apologize

36:22 Speaker 2: to Jesse because Jesse asked me to like check if

36:26 Speaker 2: my songs were gonna be a part of B M

36:28 Speaker 2: I or something like that, and just didn't have time.

36:30 Speaker 2: He did it for me. Yeah, it was very nice

36:32 Speaker 2: of him, but like I had to change my whole

36:34 Speaker 2: setlist around and it turned out it was a great show,

36:36 Speaker 2: but it was it was so funny. I was like,

36:38 Speaker 2: so can I I was gonna play like Dave Matthews,

36:40 Speaker 2: Like you can't play Dave Matthews. That was such a

36:44 Speaker 2: great gig though I had. I loved that place. Yeah,

36:47 Speaker 2: and the beer was amazing.

36:48 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, Jenny and I stopped in there recently

36:52 Speaker 1: because it was Jesse's birthday. She's a proud mama.

36:55 Speaker 2: Yeah.

36:56 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know he's been on the show

36:58 Speaker 1: a bunch of times too.

36:59 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sounding really good, wicked, talented, really good.

37:02 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that that's not something usually run into though,

37:07 Speaker 1: right at a venue where they, you know, because of

37:09 Speaker 1: the music rights where that kind of gets something. I mean,

37:11 Speaker 1: if you run into that before.

37:13 Speaker 2: I did at not when I was playing music. I

37:16 Speaker 2: used to be a butcher, and they took the music

37:18 Speaker 2: there very seriously because they were worried. I get it.

37:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is.

37:23 Speaker 2: It's it's not the venue's fault or anything like that.

37:26 Speaker 1: It's right.

37:26 Speaker 2: The way the music industry works is you gotta be careful.

37:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

37:30 Speaker 2: I kind of like when stuff like that happens, Like

37:32 Speaker 2: if you have like a two hour set or three

37:34 Speaker 2: hour set and then all of a sudden you have

37:36 Speaker 2: to remove twenty songs and figure it out. Like it's

37:39 Speaker 2: kind of fun.

37:40 Speaker 1: It's a challenge.

37:41 Speaker 2: I love it.

37:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Good, good attitude to

37:44 Speaker 1: have about it, certainly. Yeah, Yeah, I've just over the years,

37:48 Speaker 1: I've heard stories of like BMI and ASCAP, like actually

37:53 Speaker 1: it's it sounds like you wouldn't think it would really happen,

37:58 Speaker 1: but like sending undercover agents, yeah, into places to see

38:02 Speaker 1: if they're.

38:03 Speaker 2: I remember when piracy was big, and like there was

38:06 Speaker 2: like those stories of kids getting like sued because they

38:08 Speaker 2: downloaded the Titanic, and that actually happened. Yeah, it sued

38:11 Speaker 2: for lots of money. It's like these are kids, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

38:14 Speaker 2: it's wild. It's wild.

38:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

38:17 Speaker 1: And there used to be uh years ago, there was

38:20 Speaker 1: a place in Conquerord called the Cafe Eclipse, and they

38:22 Speaker 1: got into some kind of trouble and they just that's

38:24 Speaker 1: a great name. Yeah, yeah, it was a cool place.

38:29 Speaker 1: I played there a lot back in the day. But

38:30 Speaker 1: they had to make a rule just no covers because

38:32 Speaker 1: they had gotten in trouble and they'd been threatened by

38:35 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was ASCAP, BMI, or it

38:37 Speaker 1: might have been Sea Sack, because I remember the guy

38:39 Speaker 1: telling me and I was like, oh, that's what I'm

38:41 Speaker 1: not familiar with.

38:42 Speaker 2: I believe I'm playing a gig in March. It's a

38:45 Speaker 2: place that I've been wanting to get it's hard to

38:47 Speaker 2: get the gig. It's like a two year out gig.

38:48 Speaker 2: It's called Stage thirty three. It's in Bellow Falls, Vermont. Yeah,

38:51 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. That's part of the rules is I

38:53 Speaker 2: can't play any covers because they don't have any licensing agreement.

38:56 Speaker 2: So it's all gonna be originals for like, it's like

38:58 Speaker 2: a forty minute set of original is fine.

39:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, to do that.

39:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything, it's refreshing.

39:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:03 Speaker 2: There's not many listening rooms. That's the It's not a

39:06 Speaker 2: fault of New Hampshire, but it's the hardest thing in

39:08 Speaker 2: New Hampshires. There's not many listening rooms.

39:10 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, No, I agree. When you when you

39:15 Speaker 1: play covers, do you mix in any originals?

39:17 Speaker 2: Yeah? Always Yeah, yeah, you gotta and uh they usually

39:21 Speaker 2: you know, usually people want to hear it too. And

39:25 Speaker 2: my covers very like I play John Mayor Dave Matthew Shirr,

39:29 Speaker 2: but I also play Britney Spears, I play.

39:33 Speaker 7: I Do I Do.

39:34 Speaker 4: Wow.

39:35 Speaker 2: That was almost very u braggadocis I do a cover

39:38 Speaker 2: of Cake by the Ocean that I really like. I

39:42 Speaker 2: just I do things that I want to hear. Yeah,

39:45 Speaker 2: I want to listen to you know what I mean,

39:47 Speaker 2: and it's yeah, it's just so, then if you incorporate

39:50 Speaker 2: those and I base my set lists on where I

39:52 Speaker 2: have to place the capo, Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

39:55 Speaker 2: like if I do all my like second fret capo

39:59 Speaker 2: songs together, so it helps with tuning stability, and yeah,

40:05 Speaker 2: so I incorporate my originals conclusion.

40:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, well i'd imagine too, some of the covers you do,

40:11 Speaker 1: like that Elliott Smith song, I didn't recognize. I'm sure.

40:14 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you ever had anyone come up to

40:15 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, I really like that song and

40:18 Speaker 1: they have no idea that it's not an original. Does

40:20 Speaker 1: that happen?

40:21 Speaker 2: The only covers I would say that I do that

40:24 Speaker 2: people don't recognize are Elliott Smith and I have so

40:28 Speaker 2: and which saddends me. But I do them just I

40:32 Speaker 2: do them as like a kind of way of saying

40:34 Speaker 2: thank you to Elliott.

40:35 Speaker 6: Yeah.

40:37 Speaker 2: But yeah, usually people like people pick up on things

40:41 Speaker 2: like it's crazy you know you play you people wonder why,

40:46 Speaker 2: Like somebody will be like, I'll never play Hate Jude

40:48 Speaker 2: because it's such a cliche. But you play it at

40:51 Speaker 2: a bar, you're gonna get a reaction. That's gonna give

40:53 Speaker 2: you such an endorphin rush. That's It's incredible, the dopamine

40:58 Speaker 2: high you get from playing Hate Youth Love. If I can't,

41:00 Speaker 2: I recollect it to everyone, play Hey Jude Live, No Kidding? Yeah,

41:03 Speaker 2: and played the Boxer by Paul by Something. Oh yeah,

41:07 Speaker 2: that's a great one. Yeah yeah.

41:09 Speaker 1: Are Do you have a favorite cover? Is there is

41:11 Speaker 1: there one that you especially.

41:13 Speaker 2: That like I look forward to?

41:16 Speaker 1: I can.

41:16 Speaker 2: I play Neon by John Mayer and that's a bit

41:19 Speaker 2: of a flex and that seems to be gaining me

41:22 Speaker 2: some attention. So I like playing that one. Yeah yeah, yeah,

41:26 Speaker 2: that's it's been fun. I also like playing Your Body

41:28 Speaker 2: as a Wonderland.

41:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that song.

41:30 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah uh. And I also love playing I

41:34 Speaker 2: Can't help falling in Love with You. Yeah, play Elvis

41:37 Speaker 2: a lot. That's a great song. Yeah.

41:38 Speaker 1: I would imagine that goes over pretty well. I can

41:40 Speaker 1: I can see how.

41:41 Speaker 2: Just watching I've seen like moms bring their little kids

41:44 Speaker 2: on stage up the front to dance.

41:47 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah that's very cool, very cool.

41:50 Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever played any covers that

41:52 Speaker 1: you had to ditch because you they weren't going over

41:55 Speaker 1: well or.

41:57 Speaker 2: That's a good question. Yeah, finly, I tried doing party

42:03 Speaker 2: rock by LMFAO. That didn't work. I still do it sometimes,

42:08 Speaker 2: but there's a line in it it's like half half black,

42:10 Speaker 2: half white Domino and like, once I sung it out loud,

42:13 Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, I'm asi white male. So there

42:18 Speaker 2: was that, and then there was also there's a song

42:22 Speaker 2: called issues like I Got I Got Issues, you got too.

42:26 Speaker 2: I don't know who actually does a song, but it

42:29 Speaker 2: just didn't translate well to acoustic. But I'm working on

42:32 Speaker 2: a version, you know, the song I Will Survive. I'm

42:34 Speaker 2: working on that at the moment. That's like my latest thing.

42:36 Speaker 2: I'm really excited. I think I want to actually like

42:38 Speaker 2: put it on the album. I always want to have

42:41 Speaker 2: a song, like a cover song on the album.

42:42 Speaker 1: Okay, so I might do that.

42:44 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, spoiler alert, Yeah, I.

42:46 Speaker 1: Know, I think that would that would be pretty cool.

42:50 Speaker 1: Now the singles that you're releasing, are these all being

42:52 Speaker 1: recorded at the same studio or yeah, yeah.

42:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go in there and we'll spend

42:57 Speaker 2: like three hours record like three songs because they're just

43:00 Speaker 2: tract are very simple. It's still I like what I

43:03 Speaker 2: like is it's not it's not low fi, but it's

43:05 Speaker 2: like just the next step up. Yeah, and I just

43:07 Speaker 2: want to keep polishing it up, you know, keep polishing

43:10 Speaker 2: the turd if you will, until it's maybe where people

43:16 Speaker 2: would consider it acceptable or something like that.

43:18 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'll look forward to hearing the next one

43:21 Speaker 1: when it's ready. That's for sure, that's for sure. Let's

43:25 Speaker 1: see you want to play one more? Sure? Sure? Sure?

43:28 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, we have Temple Mountain here

43:30 Speaker 1: with us alive in studio.

43:32 Speaker 2: Here's a random question. What are your thoughts on do

43:34 Speaker 2: you know about New Haven's clam pizza?

43:37 Speaker 1: No, but I'm horrified, yeah right, yeah.

43:40 Speaker 2: As someone from New York, it's just like, there's no

43:42 Speaker 2: way that works clam pizza.

43:44 Speaker 1: I have a rule because, uh, you know, pizza is

43:47 Speaker 1: my favorite food and uh oh really and and if

43:51 Speaker 1: somebody asked me, you know, Matt, why you know you

43:53 Speaker 1: say certain types of pizza are gross and other types

43:56 Speaker 1: are good. Here's here's how. This is what I tell people.

43:59 Speaker 1: If you want your pizza to be delicious, you should

44:02 Speaker 1: only choose delicious toppings. If you choose disgusting toppings, your

44:06 Speaker 1: pizza will be disgusting and that's all you have to know.

44:09 Speaker 2: Now. With that said, you know pizza is hard to find.

44:11 Speaker 2: Come around here there's good pizza and there's Sorry New Hampshire,

44:15 Speaker 2: there's not. If you're from New York, you're not gonna

44:17 Speaker 2: love the pizza, right. Have you been to Pellis in Peterborough?

44:21 Speaker 4: No?

44:21 Speaker 2: No, they're good, really, Yeaelli, they're only getting better too.

44:25 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:25 Speaker 2: They are very traditional in like New York style slices

44:28 Speaker 2: and they still slices by the singles Monday through Friday,

44:32 Speaker 2: eleven am to four pm.

44:35 Speaker 1: You being from New York, you you, I mean, you

44:37 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.

44:39 Speaker 2: So it's now is it New York pizza? No? But

44:42 Speaker 2: but there's something in the water, so it's the closes

44:46 Speaker 2: probably so far. Yeah, I've heard think that people have

44:49 Speaker 2: told me about Tilton's House of Pizza, and I need

44:50 Speaker 2: to check out. Apparently I've had good pizza. I kind

44:53 Speaker 2: of like bad pizza too. I just love pizza. Yeah,

44:56 Speaker 2: I'm the same way. Yeah, it doesn't have to be

44:58 Speaker 2: great exactly.

44:59 Speaker 1: I love you.

45:00 Speaker 2: Cumber Cumby's Farm's pizza makes me happy. Sure, I'm gonna

45:03 Speaker 2: get all I hate for that.

45:04 Speaker 1: But yeah, seven eleven pizza isn't bad if like when

45:08 Speaker 1: it's fresh, but it has to be fresh because once

45:12 Speaker 1: it turns, it turns. Oh yeah, I fell into a

45:15 Speaker 1: habit of you. I don't need seven eleven pizza anymore,

45:17 Speaker 1: but I felt of eating it. But it had to

45:19 Speaker 1: be like like I mean, like within the last five minutes.

45:21 Speaker 2: It had to have been put Yeah, Otherwise something happens

45:23 Speaker 2: to cheese at.

45:24 Speaker 1: Minute six it turns into something horrible.

45:26 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not stupid. I know it's not real.

45:29 Speaker 2: I know it's yeah, yeah, I know that's not really.

45:31 Speaker 2: That's not real. Right, that's not tomato, right right, making

45:37 Speaker 2: me hungry?

45:38 Speaker 1: All right, Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio,

45:41 Speaker 1: and what are you gonna play for us?

45:42 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a John Mayer song if that's okay, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

45:46 Speaker 2: I'll play your Body's of Wonderland me happy, all right,

45:49 Speaker 2: very good.

46:10 Speaker 5: We got the afternoon. You got this room for two.

46:19 Speaker 4: One thing that's love to do, discovernment, discovering you one

46:29 Speaker 4: mind to every inch of your skin like Parson Lamb,

46:38 Speaker 4: one pair of cant lips and your buble gun too

46:46 Speaker 4: and If you want love, make it swimming a deep

46:52 Speaker 4: sea of blankets. Take your big plants and break up.

47:00 Speaker 4: This is bound to be a wow.

47:05 Speaker 9: Your body is wanting land. Your body is a wonder

47:11 Speaker 9: I'll use my hands. Your body is wanton land. Something

47:21 Speaker 9: about the way the half falls in your face. I

47:25 Speaker 9: love the shape you take when Crawnto honts belowcans.

47:30 Speaker 5: You tell me where to go, and the way might lead.

47:33 Speaker 5: Found it and never let your head hit the bed.

47:37 Speaker 5: Found my hand behind it. One off, Make it swim

47:43 Speaker 5: in the deep sea plants. Take on your big plants

47:50 Speaker 5: and break them.

47:52 Speaker 4: This is bound to be a wow.

47:56 Speaker 5: Your body is wanting lands.

48:01 Speaker 2: Your body is wandering.

48:03 Speaker 5: All you use my hands.

48:06 Speaker 10: Your body is wander les. Damn very man, you frustrate.

48:20 Speaker 5: May I know your mind, own mine, own mind. But

48:27 Speaker 5: she looked so good it hurts.

48:29 Speaker 9: Sometimes body is wander lands. Your body is wandering All

48:44 Speaker 9: you use my hands. Your body is wanting that.

49:09 Speaker 1: That's a long fade. But you know what's funny, I

49:12 Speaker 1: was thinking about this as you were playing it. I

49:15 Speaker 1: haven't heard you know his version, the original version, in

49:17 Speaker 1: a long time. But speaking of fades, there's I always

49:22 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of funny how the song kind

49:24 Speaker 1: of tricks you a little bit in that it sounds

49:27 Speaker 1: like it's over. There's a point where the song sounds

49:29 Speaker 1: like it's over, where.

49:30 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and it goes to that like.

49:34 Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean, which is not because

49:36 Speaker 1: I've said this to other people and they don't know

49:38 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's a point in the

49:40 Speaker 1: song where it's like, if you haven't heard it before,

49:42 Speaker 1: you're sure the fade out is right there, and then

49:45 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen.

49:46 Speaker 2: He does that. Actually a lot on Squares is a

49:48 Speaker 2: song called My Stupid Mouth, and there's a part where

49:51 Speaker 2: it just ends and then he goes one more thing.

49:54 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, clarity, that's a a song

50:00 Speaker 1: that I really like. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.

50:05 Speaker 2: I don't know my whole schedule, but I'm all over

50:07 Speaker 2: the place if you want to find out www dot

50:09 Speaker 2: Temple Maso music dot com. I just updated the website too,

50:12 Speaker 2: so oh, very good, very good.

50:14 Speaker 1: You do all that yourself, the yeah web web stuff, Yeah, yeah, excellent. Yeah, No,

50:18 Speaker 1: it's a nice website.

50:19 Speaker 2: Thank you.

50:19 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a website nerd. I look at websites

50:21 Speaker 1: and judge them.

50:23 Speaker 2: That's I don't know what I'm doing. So that means

50:25 Speaker 2: a lot to me.

50:25 Speaker 1: Well, because a lot of a lot of our guests,

50:27 Speaker 1: I look at their websites and it's like, oh, they're

50:31 Speaker 1: so like you know, I'll have a band on It's like, oh,

50:34 Speaker 1: there's such a great band and their website it's horrible.

50:37 Speaker 2: You know, invest put if you make money at gigs,

50:40 Speaker 2: put money back into things. You know. I paid for

50:43 Speaker 2: a graphic designer. Shout to Emily Perry for designing my

50:46 Speaker 2: logo and ever since that, that was like a game changer,

50:49 Speaker 2: Like I don't get so many gigs from that logo.

50:51 Speaker 1: Don kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great that you say

50:54 Speaker 1: that though, because that demonstrates that sometimes, you know, even

50:57 Speaker 1: just tweaking one thing oh yeah, that most people might

51:01 Speaker 1: not think would make a difference sometimes just just everything. Yeah.

51:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, And learning how to talk to people is so important, yes,

51:08 Speaker 2: you know, don't. Yeah, I have a real pet peeve

51:13 Speaker 2: when I hear like, I know, we I go, but

51:14 Speaker 2: when I hear an artist like almost like say something

51:16 Speaker 2: condescending to like a person.

51:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like just be nice, right right, just do it? Yeah.

51:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard. It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything. No,

51:24 Speaker 2: it's not easy either sometimes, but yeah, make it easy,

51:27 Speaker 2: find a way.

51:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and that's how you build relationships exactly. Yeah. Absolutely.

51:32 Speaker 1: And then uh and Stacey the new single, which we'll

51:35 Speaker 1: we'll play again to close out to a segment two

51:37 Speaker 1: you because this is out today on all the streaming

51:39 Speaker 1: platforms and there's a video coming soon and like a.

51:42 Speaker 2: Week, okay, yeah it might yeah, I'll probably release it

51:44 Speaker 2: in a week.

51:45 Speaker 1: All right, all right, excellent, excellent, Well, thank you my friend.

51:48 Speaker 1: This is always wonderful to see you. I think this

51:50 Speaker 1: is your Is this your third time on the show.

51:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for always having me you guys, that's

51:54 Speaker 2: really sweet.

51:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely no, we we love to have you on. And

51:57 Speaker 1: I'll remind people too. Eric was also on Rob's show

52:00 Speaker 1: Grantite State of Mind, so you can find that in

52:02 Speaker 1: the archive as well. And we will close out the

52:05 Speaker 1: segment once again with the brand new single out today.

52:09 Speaker 1: It is called Stacey by Temple Mountain. Thanks again,