Matt Connarton Unleashed: Temple Mountain debuts "Stacy's Song"

0:00 Speaker 1: What a beautiful song that is called Stacy. And we have the writer and composer and singer and guitarist and from Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. We get that mic up, Hello, Eric, Hey, how are we doing?

0:16 Speaker 2: Let's see how do I sound good?

0:19 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna boosome that volume a little bit.

0:23 Speaker 3: Heard.

0:24 Speaker 1: Eric's gonna play live for us this morning, So I want to make sure we can hear you. Okay, I think we're I think we're good. Yeah, congratulations, that just came out Stacy.

0:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Stacy's song has been out since today, and yeah, it's the series of probably several singles that are gonna be coming in the near future. So I have like at least seven or eight more.

0:47 Speaker 1: Okay, So has this been played on the radio before today World Radio Premiere? We have it excellent, excellent. So when you say it's out today, so it's on all the streaming platform platform.

1:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I have a video an official video that uh I handa B Photography and I filmed together that I'm going to be releasing soon too.

1:10 Speaker 1: Very good. Well, like how soon, like within the next couple of weeks.

1:15 Speaker 2: So you would think with someone who's passionate, they would have a date set, but I haven't. I haven't put it. We we kind of created that video so extemporaneously and very last minute. So it's done and it's ready. I could release it now, but I don't know when I want to do it right right?

1:30 Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. Yeah, you want to wait till the time is right? Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And so you said, so you're releasing a series of singles.

1:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing you You ever heard the Waterfall Effect? Yes, yes, I've heard. I don't really want to do it because I don't like the idea of it, but it seems to everyone's just telling me to do it. So I'm like, why don't I do it this time around and then the next album I can do it the way I want to do it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm releasing probably every other month, I'm going to release a song.

1:58 Speaker 1: You're a previous because you have the album Schema, which we've played songs from before. So but this time so will the singles that you're releasing will they eventually?

2:08 Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's going to release. The album is gonna be called Case Studies. And you had the artists who did the artwork for it on the show Kira Curtis.

2:17 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right, we talked about that.

2:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the final album artwork, and then for all the singles, I want to get local artists to kind of create the what what would you call it, the Spotify single template for it.

2:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool are these? Uh So Schema obviously kind of has a theme.

2:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I took that out this time.

2:41 Speaker 1: Okay.

2:42 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's in there because I think in that kind of way, but in terms of titles and overall concept, I just wanted to kind of rein free. There was I put a lot of restrictions on Schema, like there's only you know, you play guitar or correct. Yeah, so there's only like certain shapes that I restricted myself to to create songs with. For this time around, I was like, let me experiment more of harmony and let me experiment more with just I just wanted to be completely and I even went to like a studio this time around to like record them and act in Massachusetts.

3:21 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to try something new.

3:23 Speaker 1: Okay. So that's where Stacey was recorded.

3:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Spring sounds okay. Josh is awesome. I love the guy.

3:30 Speaker 1: Now how did you connect with him and why did you decide to work with him?

3:33 Speaker 2: I was looking at places that offered tape recording because I was because you know, why not and they don't do that? But they came up and I saw their rates and I was like, that's affordable.

3:46 Speaker 1: So so you were looking for so when you say tape recording, so you were looking for that.

3:50 Speaker 2: I was looking for like real to real that wow, and it's it's possible. It's just then I started I get really in my head about these things. It's like would that be a cliche? Would that be a little bit of a gimmick? And so then I found them and I was like, why don't I just give this a try? And Josh, what's cool is I'm a big Elliott Smith fan. And they have the original microphones that Elliott Smith used on his Lucky three documentary, which is like the mike, it's a Newman something. I forget what they're called, but kay, So just I got to record the whole album with those microphones.

4:25 Speaker 1: So oh, very cool.

4:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I mean it meant a lot to me, that's awesome.

4:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am curious. Were you able to find I assume not in the area. Were you able to find a studio that does reel to real when you were looking online?

4:39 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah absolutely. And I had a friend, my friend Josh, he actually has like a four track set recorder, and I was thinking about doing something like that. But I don't know, it's so funny you because I was just thinking about this. I kind of want to make an album and I know saying this live on the air, like it's silly, but I want to create album where I just record right on my iPhone because to me, the iPhone voicemail app seems to be like the new Lo Fi. And I would like, what can I do with that?

5:09 Speaker 2: And maybe I could do something kind of Nick Drake like and like do a lot of fingerpicking and vocal intimate stuff and like it won't sound like high professional, but that's like that's the point, yeah, right right.

5:20 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:22 Speaker 2: I love when it sounds like you're there, you know, when it's not like. I love the room noise. I love everything about that.

5:31 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:31 Speaker 2: I love the mistakes.

5:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I know we talked about this before? But how How was Schema recorded.

5:39 Speaker 2: In my in my farmhouse just with like a simple microphone and a Logic Pro and a laptop that couldn't handle Logic Pro. And then I just kind of figured it out. I mixed it myself, so I just did it by ear. I don't really know how to do compression or mike. You know EQ and you know it shows. But I'm really happy. I'm really proud of that album. Every time I listen to it, I'm always like, oh I still.

6:07 Speaker 1: Like this, Yeah, yeah, that's good.

6:10 Speaker 2: That hasn't happened before.

6:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really? Yeah? Have you been self critical in the past of some of.

6:14 Speaker 2: Your pre prozac Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

6:21 Speaker 1: You want to play something a lot? For sure?

6:24 Speaker 2: Could I play an Elliot Smith song?

6:25 Speaker 1: You can play anything you'd like?

6:27 Speaker 2: All right, this is an Elliott Smith song. It's called Angelus.

7:04 Speaker 4: Someone's always coming around here trailing some nucule.

7:13 Speaker 3: Soles seeing your picture on a hundred ta game of chance to you in the swan.

7:27 Speaker 5: Of real skill. So glad to meet you and pick it up.

7:38 Speaker 4: The ticket showstairs, money to be me, go on loose that gamble.

7:47 Speaker 6: That stuff history you have the trade? Did you add up all the cards left to play.

8:00 Speaker 4: Zero.

8:01 Speaker 5: Sign up with Evil Edge Loss.

8:08 Speaker 7: Don't start me try now, uh huh uh huh ahhah uh,

8:21 Speaker 7: because I'm all over it, ed.

8:29 Speaker 4: I can make you satisfied with everything you do. All your secret wishes could right now come back to.

8:42 Speaker 5: You BeForever with fire poison arms around you. No one's gone a fool around first. No one's going a fool

9:02 Speaker 5: to mean you andless.

9:18 Speaker 1: Very cool.

9:20 Speaker 4: I like it.

9:20 Speaker 1: I like it.

9:21 Speaker 2: What's that called Angelus by Elliot Smith?

9:24 Speaker 5: Yeah?

9:24 Speaker 1: I like it. I don't think I've ever heard that before.

9:27 Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

9:27 Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been aware of Elliott Smith and somewhat familiar, but I don't Uh yeah, I don't know that song. But no, I really like it.

9:34 Speaker 2: He's my hero.

9:35 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what is it about him?

9:37 Speaker 2: Is it is?

9:37 Speaker 1: That's a great song? Is it a songwriting?

9:39 Speaker 2: Yes, it's definitely the songwriting. When I was in my senior year of high school, this really cool guy did a English project and we had to choose a song and like talk about how it has symbolic meaning. And he did a song called Between the Bars and I just watched it and it was like everything I wanted to be yeah, and then that It's so funny because it was just coincidence. I watched Goodwill Hunting and he did the music for Goodwill Hunting.

10:05 Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I was watching.

10:06 Speaker 2: I was listening to it. I was like, wow, this is really good. Who is it? And I looked it up at was Elliot Smith And it actually is the reason I got into psychology that movie. So really yeah, so he just I don't know, his playing blows my mind, his songwriting, his voice blows mine and I love it.

10:23 Speaker 4: Yeah.

10:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember if we talked about this before, but so Goodwill Hunting is what inspired you to get into psychology.

10:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this. There's a great scene in that movie where Robin Williams is talking to Matt Damon about laying bricks, and Matt Damon's like making the argument like why are we looking at laying bricks like it's a bad job. That's a noble job. There's honor in that, And it like blew my mind hearing that for the first time and seeing then Matt have a kind of breakthrough. It was like I want to I want to experience that in my lifetime.

10:53 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, the uh if this sounds familiar to you. Then we did talk about this before, But my dad has told me that people have told him that the Robin Williams character reminds that reminds them of him.

11:10 Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I know you're a hypnotist, correct, Yes?

11:14 Speaker 7: Have you?

11:15 Speaker 2: Do you find that? Because hypnotism can create incredible change in a person, is there like a breakthrough moment? Would you say, like, can a person realize there I don't like using the word cured, but when they realize that a problem can maybe get diminished or fixed. Do you experience that yourself or is it more outside the office where they notice that.

11:36 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, it's a great question because sometimes during a session, at the end of it, they're different, Like, not everybody, but sometimes they are, Like I can see the subtle differences even in just how they like their facial expressions, Like they exude a confidence, in a sense of empowerment that clearly was not there before the sets. Well, yeah, and it is. I do love that. I guess such a rush for that's you know. I like to think I have certain skill sets. I'm good at something.

12:07 Speaker 1: I think I'm okay at hosting a talk show, I'm good. I'm good at that. But the one thing I really love is hypnotherapy.

12:12 Speaker 4: Really.

12:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's cool about hitting the therapy too is and people don't talk about this, but hypnotherapy is the reason why psychoanalysis and therapy exists because Freud saw hypnotherapy and was fascinated by it. Yeah, so, like it's such an important part of mental health that we don't talk about a lot. Yeah, it's diminished a little bit, it's coming back and it's diminished, it goes in waves. Sometimes it's used as a party trick, and it's like it's not just that it's it's a form of behavioral therapy, right yeah.

12:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely, No, I love I love helping people with it. I do I do a visualization while they're in a state of hypnosis where I have them imagine they're the ideal version of themselves, the version of themselves that they most want to be. Oh wow, and uh yeah, people seem to really get a lot out of that, you know. But yeah, and so you now are you where are you in your career with with uh psycho psychology.

13:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in my third semester of grad school. Excellent I'm actually in my counseling skills class that I adore. I I've been a case manager since the beginning, but I'm really looking forward to internship. I love case management, but uh, I'm really looking forward to internship because I want to be in the office and you know, just reading up on Yaalam and reading up on Carl Rogers. I think the therapy that I'm interested in the most is Rogarian therapy and like existential therapy. So I'm still trying to and a little bit of solution focused.

13:36 Speaker 2: There's some that's in there. But yeah, I just I'm I got about another year and a half until I am That's like part of my life. Yeah, cool, very exciting, Canton down the days, That's that's excellent.

13:52 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think your music will change when you when you get to that point? How so, like I don't know, Like do you think because obviously you know you have these things in mind, like with schema, you have these things in mind as you're writing these songs. I mean, do you think it'll do you think it'll change your perspective at all in terms of how you actually approach your music.

14:09 Speaker 2: I think where I get my most happiness from is playing live, And I mean I've been busy with the music stuff and it's been like two three hour shows playing at bars, playing like you know, can't help falling in love with Elves or hay Jude by the Beatles, And I find a lot of arcists in that, and I don't I think the image that I'm kind of portraying right in front of you right now is kind of what I want to continue doing.

14:34 Speaker 1: Yeah.

14:35 Speaker 2: See, at one point I was thinking about do I want a band or nine? That's like that sounds so expensive, right right, So in a lot of ways, yeah, yeah, I think I want to find a healthy balance like and sounds silly, but almost like the Batman thing, you know. By day I do I see patients and I see clients and I help the best I can, and I grow and build relationships. And at night I played music and I grow and build relationships. So yeah, that's and then you know, somewhere in between that also, I'm a happy husband and father, So to me that sounds like the ideal life for me.

15:12 Speaker 1: Yeah.

15:12 Speaker 2: Yeah.

15:13 Speaker 1: Do you think people overlook the benefit the psychological benefits of music? Like do you think the it's funny because I've never really thought about it before from this angle, but as we're talking to a personally, like, you know, music in and of itself is such great therapy, even just listening to it, you know, it can really affect how you feel. And but sometimes I wonder if people don't. I mean a lot of people do, even if they just don't realize it necessarily consciously. But I think music itself is kind of overlooked in that it can so so much influence how we feel, how we feel about ourselves, and and but it can also be sabotaging I feel.

15:56 Speaker 2: Too, exactly.

15:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, something I've never understood about people is why. I mean, I do get it, but I but I it's not my instinct to do this when someone is sad and they want to listen to sad songs because they feel sad. And I've always been from my entire from when I was a kid, when I was a little kid. If I'm sad, the last thing I want to do is listen to sad music. I want to listen to something that's going to change my state of mind.

16:25 Speaker 2: I think the thing that is actually maybe maybe not maybe I'm getting a tangential, but the thing that's more interesting to me is music you can develop an identity with. You know, if there's a banana across the room, I'm not going to have an identity with that banana. I'm not gonna go like, oh, yeah, that's my favorite type of banana. It's from New Zealand or something like that. You know, I don't know if New Zealand grows bananas, but yeah, you know, with music, it can get really idiolating because there can be times where I've had moments where music is my best friend on certain days, and there's certain days where it's just like, oh my god, I've listened to Room for Squares by John Mayer NonStop for a week and then I have an identity crisis.

17:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that part doesn't get talked bad enough, where, especially if you're into the arts and you pursue the arts, you have moments of imposter syndrome and identity crisis. And yes, music can be your best friend at the end of the day. And I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is one of the greatest songs of all time, but after listening to it two thousand times, when I listen to it now, it's like, I know what happens on second forty five. I can't listen to that song anymore, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:34 Speaker 2: So it's a it's a balance, and I'm always trying. The other hard thing I want to say is discovering new music for me is really difficult. I try really hard. I look for stuff and it's just there's something going on where my brain's like, nah, keep going. And when I do find somebody, like right now it's been hip hop, I'm like obsessed with just like we were talking about before the show making, like beat making.

17:58 Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

17:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. It's like, finally here's that energetic high I've been looking for.

18:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

18:09 Speaker 2: So you but so you.

18:12 Speaker 1: So you have a hard time though, finding new music that you.

18:14 Speaker 2: Like, especially with acoustic music, because usually when people recommend me acoustic stuff that it would make sense that I should like it, but it just doesn't hit me. Like a good example is Bonaver, very talented musician. People who love Bonaver. You have great taste. I'm not here to try and question that, And then when it comes to my ears and I process it, it's like this isn't for me. It's just not hitting it. I've I don't. Maybe the maybe the problem is I don't actually know what I want. Yeah, yeah, I don't actually have my taste well defined yet in my head?

18:46 Speaker 1: Well does it? Is it also possible that the production is bothering you because because yeah, because you know, you're a low five guy.

18:54 Speaker 2: But I love again, I love smells like teen Spirit, which is the exact opposite of that. So it's like it depends on the context of the music itself, but.

19:02 Speaker 1: Even smells like teen Spirit, the production is different than what like now, everything is so compressed. Yes, yeah, the only people I feel really get it right is uh. I'm not a big country guy, but I gotta say from a production standpoint, Nashville has it down. Oh yeah, yeah, the drums always sound great.

19:20 Speaker 2: You know. This is where it sounds like I almost don't want to come across as like a double like I'm here I making double standards, but like, yeah, for example, like my friend sent me a song by an artist called Dare the songs called girls Don't Play It. It's very raunchy. I love that song. Yeah, it's awesome. I love I love when that stuff is incorporated into like dance music and stuff like that it's like, yes, but when it's incorporated, it's like the acoustic guitar. When I hear an acoustic guitar, especially like like maybe controversible, when I hear guitar that has like elixir strings on it.

19:51 Speaker 2: For those who know what Elexa strings are, they're coded strings. It's like an immediate turnoff from my ears. Oh yeah, I don't like it. It sounds too clean. Yeah, And I want to make it clear, like I don't think that this should be the standard for anyone by any means, like because I'm not the best guitar player of all time. I'm not the best songwriter of all time.

20:09 Speaker 7: I'm not.

20:10 Speaker 2: It's nothing like that. It's just for what I look for to help me grow as a musician. I put these kind of things on a pedestal.

20:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. If you are just joining us, Temple Mountain is here with us alive in studio, and you want.

20:23 Speaker 2: To play another one, Sure, I'll actually play. Because you played Stacy song earlier, I played the next single I'm probably gonna release after that. Oh cool, and I'm probably gonna mess it up, So that's okay. We're only live.

20:35 Speaker 1: It's an original and we won't know.

20:37 Speaker 5: Very good.

20:38 Speaker 2: It's called grateful, all right.

20:59 Speaker 4: Choice of girls so profound, different shades of black and gray.

21:07 Speaker 4: And you're saying the world is round, But i'd seen in different ways, and I've noticed you're holding my soul what tight with a breath that is.

21:21 Speaker 5: Only one way. Oh, it's all right to say that I need you so grateful that meant you.

21:29 Speaker 4: This way, waiting for the moon to bloom, watch the way the stars dictating.

21:47 Speaker 5: My heart is only sat on you.

21:51 Speaker 4: So now I thank you for today. And remember you told me the whole tight, for the world can be a.

22:00 Speaker 5: Dif friend each day.

22:02 Speaker 4: Oh, it's all right to say that I need you so grateful. The met you sway stand by heard again

22:16 Speaker 4: backs our face and then with voices all around, but we never made a sound. All your story is so profound.

22:32 Speaker 4: Now you choose to live each day and it's never up or down. It's not a side that leans your way. And remember you told me to say, for the world has asked you that say. Oh, it's all right to say that I need you so grateful the met you sway.

23:02 Speaker 4: Oh it's all right to say that I need you so grateful to met you today.

23:15 Speaker 1: Beautiful beautiful Temple Mountain live in studio. Well that's so that's gonna be the next single?

23:21 Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Yeah, yeah, probably in like December. Very good, very good? Is it?

23:26 Speaker 1: Is it difficult to choose what to what to go with next because obviously you've written a lot of songs.

23:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and no, I just kind of do it, but yeah, I don't put too much thought into it. Like the this sounds silly, but like I'm just so, I know social media is important. I don't even think you were just talking about that with the last artist, how important it is on so or maybe that was yesterday. The social media is just so important to do as an artist, But I just don't see it as important. You know, if I wanted to, I can pay twenty bucks and get like fifty fake likes on my Facebook account, right, so like it's artificial, like it's all controlled.

24:07 Speaker 2: Like it's not the same as when I go live and I play a song with someone and connect with them and they come up to me after the show and say, hey, that was really cool. Even if it's just one person, that means way more to me. So yeah, I don't put too much thought. I do allow the releasing and stuff like that just so I can get gigs.

24:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Jenny was just reminding me too online. Do you teach now, Oh you don't teach music. Yeah, I think that's what she meant.

24:32 Speaker 2: No, no, okay, I'm not much of a teacher. It's unfortunately thinking of somebody else.

24:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you uh, you did mention earlier. Sometimes you think about, you know, playing in a band or getting a band together. I mean, how how, how seriously do you do you think about that? Is it possible in the future or is it something that you kind of dismissed when it pops into your head?

24:53 Speaker 2: Or I got a telecaster recently, so oh yeah, telecasts and a jazz coort samp because I really like the sound of it.

24:59 Speaker 1: Okay, I think about it.

25:01 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I don't know how to do it. If if I don't think, I would want to search for it like I would if it happens naturally. That's how I'd be down for it, because I don't want to have like Temple Mountain, then I control the music and everything like that. I want it would be cool if it was something like Queen where it's like I write songs, bass player right songs, and drummer writes songs and we just appreciate each other's songwriting together and we could all sing. That would be awesome.

25:28 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:29 Speaker 4: Yeah.

25:29 Speaker 1: Were you in a band before.

25:32 Speaker 2: Growing up? I was in a death metal band called the Story of Anatomy in New York, but we didn't do anything. Yeah, and then I played I was Eric Phillip in New York City and then because that's my middle name, and that just didn't go very well. And then this this has been really taking off. It's been crazy, and it tell us again, how did you become Temple Mountain? Well, I live in Peterborough, which is right off and I live off a temple mountain. And then, you know, when you're starting to be a licensed therapist, you you learn a lot about both boundaries and confidentiality, and I think it's important that you know.

26:09 Speaker 2: I want to keep this life separate. So it's it's like I said earlier, it's kind of like my batman.

26:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. And uh, by the way, are you married now?

26:20 Speaker 4: No?

26:20 Speaker 2: Not yet?

26:20 Speaker 1: Oh not yet?

26:21 Speaker 4: No?

26:22 Speaker 5: There?

26:23 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, very good wait very good?

26:27 Speaker 1: Is uh Stacy's song? Is that about your It is early? Yeah, excellent? Yeah, I think I think she was in the chat room last time you were on with us. Yeah.

26:35 Speaker 2: She she works for Kobe Sawyer and today is homecoming, so she had to leave work for work today at like six am. She's doing a lot of stuff. So yeah, we're not going to be seeing each other until tomorrow. Probably not in the chat room today, and she is, then Kobe Sawyer should think about that because she's not doing her job.

26:57 Speaker 1: Well do you want to?

26:58 Speaker 4: Uh?

26:59 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got time you play another one for sure. Sure if you are just joining us, A Temple Mountain is here with us, live in studio, and we should tell people too. Last night you were on Granted State of Mind with Rob as a veto. Yeah, so if you want to check that out too, that is of course up on the site.

27:15 Speaker 2: Shout out to Rob.

27:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rob doing amazing things. You've You've played at Pembroke City Limits.

27:19 Speaker 2: So yeah, I played the Nirvana night there.

27:21 Speaker 1: Oh did you Yeah?

27:22 Speaker 2: It was incredible.

27:22 Speaker 1: What song did you do?

27:24 Speaker 4: Oh?

27:25 Speaker 2: Uh, I think I played I'm on a Plane. Oh okay, yeah that's yeah, Yeah, I did that, and then I played something in the way I meant. So what happened was I went in there going to play something in the way, and then like the day before, he asked me if I could play I think it was I'm on a plane.

27:41 Speaker 4: Oh.

27:43 Speaker 2: I was just like yeah, okay, and so I had to kind of figure it out. Yeah, And I remember I drove there like two hours early. I learned the song like two hours before the show, and oh no kidding, Yeah, I was so nervous and it kept blanking because I kept going through the lyrics in my head. And then when you're on stage, something just kind of happens, yeah, and it all comes back to you.

28:01 Speaker 1: Yeah.

28:02 Speaker 2: So I got lucky. It was a good shime and I met so many cool people that night. That was the best part about that show. Yeah, because here you just playing bar gigs. You're always by yourself. You don't get to really see other artists because you're always overlapping. Rob did him in gret where he got all these people coming together.

28:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for those who don't know what we're talking about. So it was a show where everybody, everybody played just one, right, just one Nirvana so two yeah, yeah, do you know how many performers there were that night?

28:29 Speaker 2: Total must have been close to seven or eight.

28:32 Speaker 1: No kidding.

28:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Ben. Do you know Ben Harris? No?

28:37 Speaker 1: I heard him on Rob's show a couple of weeks ago.

28:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a nice guy. So we met. We were speaking online already, and then we met from the show, and then he invited me to play at Panucci's Conquered, So like, we need more shows like that. Yeah, it's a great artist like to help artists. So yes, I really appreciate Rob.

28:55 Speaker 7: For doing that.

28:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah, check out Pembroke City Limits if you haven't been there, it's a great place. Rob's doing great things there. And uh, all right, you were gonna play and I totally derailed you.

29:06 Speaker 2: No, you're fine, but.

29:08 Speaker 1: Devile Mountain is here with us, live in studio, and what are you gonna play for us?

29:12 Speaker 2: This is a song off Schema. It's called Stages of Attachment and with a name like that, you would never guess, but it's about my cat. Oh yeah, all right, very good. So let's see.

29:38 Speaker 5: You try to wake me up, assuming I should rise, So.

29:44 Speaker 4: Pull my blank kid and stay here for Oh how well, just fell for you, and simple life you you could break all the rules.

30:00 Speaker 3: Love you all the time.

30:05 Speaker 5: It's just a little thing sheltered by these walls.

30:12 Speaker 4: Seas like your gaunt eyes, little ginger bards.

30:18 Speaker 5: It's just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true. Bring love to you all.

30:26 Speaker 4: You mean everything you do. I remember the day, all the morning drive seven are in the room and you with the sick guy. How your well just came.

30:46 Speaker 5: To me and famild rise.

30:51 Speaker 4: And home you fell asleep, founder powder cried.

30:59 Speaker 5: It just ole thing sheltered by these walks, seems.

31:06 Speaker 4: Like through gold and eyes a little ginger parts.

31:12 Speaker 5: You're just a little thing. Your heart is pure and true. Bring in love to you all. You mean everything you do.

31:25 Speaker 5: And when I get home, it's hello, not goodbye. And when I leave tomorrow you'll always try and cry. You walk your.

31:39 Speaker 4: Sister up zom and she will play, but you know when she's fed up with all your silly games.

31:51 Speaker 5: And the world around.

31:52 Speaker 4: You know how it makes me want to cry, but you know I'll never frown as.

32:00 Speaker 5: You lay by my side. You're just a little thing too, about these walls. You see his life real gold eyes, little ginger boss, You're just a little thing.

32:21 Speaker 8: Your heart is pure and true, bringing love to all you mean, everything you do, bringing love too all you mean and everything you too.

32:48 Speaker 1: Very cool, Thank you.

32:50 Speaker 2: What's that called stages of attachment?

32:51 Speaker 1: Stages of attachment? Yes, yes, Jenny and I have two cats and we love them very much. So I find that song very relatable.

32:58 Speaker 2: Oh I appreciate that. Yeah you don't do you know Dylan Patrick Ward? Does that name sound familiar?

33:03 Speaker 1: Sounds familiar.

33:04 Speaker 2: It's a local songwriter from Vermont. He has a song called the Cat's Song, and when I heard it, I was like, oh, you can write about your cats. That was the inspiration we.

33:13 Speaker 1: Had recently, well a couple months ago, we had the band Turbo Cats.

33:17 Speaker 2: I played with them. Oh okay, yeah I played with that show at Terminus. Oh right, so funny. Oh yeah yeah, god they cracked like in a great way. Yeah awesome, And it was just like they were so seriously like this next song is called licking your leg or something like that. It was brilliant.

33:34 Speaker 1: They have that song I Senior Lady Cat, which because we have a female cat that's you know, getting up there, so we could relate to that.

33:42 Speaker 2: It's really trendy. Right now to sing about your cat.

33:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great thing. Some people really don't like cats, and yeah, I don't get that. I think I think those people have some sort of psychological issue. Yeah, you could not love cats?

33:56 Speaker 2: Well, just how can you not love any animal? Right, besides a wasp because they hurt?

34:01 Speaker 1: Well, it's not an animal, right, that's an insect?

34:03 Speaker 2: Is an insect? Non animal?

34:05 Speaker 1: I don't think so.

34:06 Speaker 2: But then, but then we were talking about this on a on a Friday night on a cereal of soup.

34:12 Speaker 1: I'm a co host on Retrospect Radio with poly c and Paul was saying that ants actually technically are animals, not insects. And it freaked me out because when I was a kid, my friends and I would light ants on fire in the summertime with the lighter and uh, now I feel terrible about I didn't care when I thought they were insects.

34:29 Speaker 2: You know, they're pre their their pre the size of their brains alone for the for who what the size of them as an animal is alone, like enough to be like, wow, these are very impressive creatures. Cats are ants, cortexes are he really?

34:46 Speaker 1: Is that true? See? Now I feel really bad. Yeah.

34:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, how old are you? Oh I was probably like ten oh yeah times past. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would probably done way worse since then.

34:56 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Oh yeah, you have no idea of course

35:01 Speaker 1: if you are just joining us on this Saturday morning, Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio. Are you playing a lot? You're playing pretty consistently.

35:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a showed later today, and then this month I was playing a lot. September I played probably like close to twenty shows. Ohkid, yeah, next month I have probably I think I'm at fifteen right now. I'm trying to get more. So yeah, it's gonna taper down by the new year, but it's slowly growing back. And yeah, I love I have. Two weeks ago, I played three three hour shows in one day, and wow, that was an incredible accomplishment on my end that I was really proud of and I always wanted to because Billy Shean of the ban Talis said that he once did three shows and one day.

35:45 Speaker 2: I was like, I could do that. Yeah, So it was it was a nice kind of Yeah the Farsis three three hour shows. Yeah, I couldn't sing for a little bit after that one that was at a great time.

35:56 Speaker 1: How did that even happen? Like, how did you end? On my own?

35:58 Speaker 2: It's my own stupidity. I just keep saying yes, yeah, yeah, yes, and then I'll be like so that. That was a crazy day too, because I had to go my first gig was in Where's Beach and then I had to drive to Manchester to play at Great North and then I had to go to Foundry and play a Foundry So and Great North was such a shout out to Jesse by the way for that gig. Yes, and I'm glad I brought that up because I want to apologize to Jesse because Jesse asked me to like check if my songs were gonna be a part of B M I or something like that, and just didn't have time.

36:30 Speaker 2: He did it for me. Yeah, it was very nice of him, but like I had to change my whole setlist around and it turned out it was a great show, but it was it was so funny. I was like, so can I I was gonna play like Dave Matthews, Like you can't play Dave Matthews. That was such a great gig though I had. I loved that place. Yeah, and the beer was amazing.

36:48 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, Jenny and I stopped in there recently because it was Jesse's birthday. She's a proud mama.

36:55 Speaker 2: Yeah.

36:56 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know he's been on the show a bunch of times too.

36:59 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sounding really good, wicked, talented, really good.

37:02 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But that that's not something usually run into though, right at a venue where they, you know, because of the music rights where that kind of gets something. I mean, if you run into that before.

37:13 Speaker 2: I did at not when I was playing music. I used to be a butcher, and they took the music there very seriously because they were worried. I get it.

37:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it is.

37:23 Speaker 2: It's it's not the venue's fault or anything like that.

37:26 Speaker 1: It's right.

37:26 Speaker 2: The way the music industry works is you gotta be careful.

37:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

37:30 Speaker 2: I kind of like when stuff like that happens, Like if you have like a two hour set or three hour set and then all of a sudden you have to remove twenty songs and figure it out. Like it's kind of fun.

37:40 Speaker 1: It's a challenge.

37:41 Speaker 2: I love it.

37:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Good, good attitude to have about it, certainly. Yeah, Yeah, I've just over the years, I've heard stories of like BMI and ASCAP, like actually it's it sounds like you wouldn't think it would really happen, but like sending undercover agents, yeah, into places to see if they're.

38:03 Speaker 2: I remember when piracy was big, and like there was like those stories of kids getting like sued because they downloaded the Titanic, and that actually happened. Yeah, it sued for lots of money. It's like these are kids, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wild. It's wild.

38:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

38:17 Speaker 1: And there used to be uh years ago, there was a place in Conquerord called the Cafe Eclipse, and they got into some kind of trouble and they just that's a great name. Yeah, yeah, it was a cool place. I played there a lot back in the day. But they had to make a rule just no covers because they had gotten in trouble and they'd been threatened by I don't know if it was ASCAP, BMI, or it might have been Sea Sack, because I remember the guy telling me and I was like, oh, that's what I'm not familiar with.

38:42 Speaker 2: I believe I'm playing a gig in March. It's a place that I've been wanting to get it's hard to get the gig. It's like a two year out gig. It's called Stage thirty three. It's in Bellow Falls, Vermont. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's part of the rules is I can't play any covers because they don't have any licensing agreement. So it's all gonna be originals for like, it's like a forty minute set of original is fine.

39:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, to do that.

39:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything, it's refreshing.

39:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:03 Speaker 2: There's not many listening rooms. That's the It's not a fault of New Hampshire, but it's the hardest thing in New Hampshires. There's not many listening rooms.

39:10 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, No, I agree. When you when you play covers, do you mix in any originals?

39:17 Speaker 2: Yeah? Always Yeah, yeah, you gotta and uh they usually you know, usually people want to hear it too. And my covers very like I play John Mayor Dave Matthew Shirr, but I also play Britney Spears, I play.

39:33 Speaker 7: I Do I Do.

39:34 Speaker 4: Wow.

39:35 Speaker 2: That was almost very u braggadocis I do a cover of Cake by the Ocean that I really like. I just I do things that I want to hear. Yeah, I want to listen to you know what I mean, and it's yeah, it's just so, then if you incorporate those and I base my set lists on where I have to place the capo, Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, like if I do all my like second fret capo songs together, so it helps with tuning stability, and yeah, so I incorporate my originals conclusion.

40:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, well i'd imagine too, some of the covers you do, like that Elliott Smith song, I didn't recognize. I'm sure. I'm sure if you ever had anyone come up to you and say, hey, I really like that song and they have no idea that it's not an original. Does that happen?

40:21 Speaker 2: The only covers I would say that I do that people don't recognize are Elliott Smith and I have so and which saddends me. But I do them just I do them as like a kind of way of saying thank you to Elliott.

40:35 Speaker 6: Yeah.

40:37 Speaker 2: But yeah, usually people like people pick up on things like it's crazy you know you play you people wonder why, Like somebody will be like, I'll never play Hate Jude because it's such a cliche. But you play it at a bar, you're gonna get a reaction. That's gonna give you such an endorphin rush. That's It's incredible, the dopamine high you get from playing Hate Youth Love. If I can't, I recollect it to everyone, play Hey Jude Live, No Kidding? Yeah, and played the Boxer by Paul by Something. Oh yeah, that's a great one.

41:07 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

41:09 Speaker 1: Are Do you have a favorite cover? Is there is there one that you especially.

41:13 Speaker 2: That like I look forward to?

41:16 Speaker 1: I can.

41:16 Speaker 2: I play Neon by John Mayer and that's a bit of a flex and that seems to be gaining me some attention. So I like playing that one. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's it's been fun. I also like playing Your Body as a Wonderland.

41:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that song.

41:30 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah uh. And I also love playing I Can't help falling in Love with You. Yeah, play Elvis a lot. That's a great song. Yeah.

41:38 Speaker 1: I would imagine that goes over pretty well. I can I can see how.

41:41 Speaker 2: Just watching I've seen like moms bring their little kids on stage up the front to dance.

41:47 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah that's very cool, very cool. Have you ever have you ever played any covers that you had to ditch because you they weren't going over well or.

41:57 Speaker 2: That's a good question. Yeah, finly, I tried doing party rock by LMFAO. That didn't work. I still do it sometimes, but there's a line in it it's like half half black, half white Domino and like, once I sung it out loud, was like, oh yeah, I'm asi white male. So there was that, and then there was also there's a song called issues like I Got I Got Issues, you got too. I don't know who actually does a song, but it just didn't translate well to acoustic. But I'm working on a version, you know, the song I Will Survive.

42:34 Speaker 2: I'm working on that at the moment. That's like my latest thing. I'm really excited. I think I want to actually like put it on the album. I always want to have a song, like a cover song on the album.

42:42 Speaker 1: Okay, so I might do that.

42:44 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, spoiler alert, Yeah, I.

42:46 Speaker 1: Know, I think that would that would be pretty cool.

42:50 Speaker 1: Now the singles that you're releasing, are these all being recorded at the same studio or yeah, yeah.

42:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go in there and we'll spend like three hours record like three songs because they're just tract are very simple. It's still I like what I like is it's not it's not low fi, but it's like just the next step up. Yeah, and I just want to keep polishing it up, you know, keep polishing the turd if you will, until it's maybe where people would consider it acceptable or something like that.

43:18 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'll look forward to hearing the next one when it's ready. That's for sure, that's for sure. Let's see you want to play one more? Sure? Sure? Sure? If you're just joining us, we have Temple Mountain here with us alive in studio.

43:32 Speaker 2: Here's a random question. What are your thoughts on do you know about New Haven's clam pizza?

43:37 Speaker 1: No, but I'm horrified, yeah right, yeah.

43:40 Speaker 2: As someone from New York, it's just like, there's no way that works clam pizza.

43:44 Speaker 1: I have a rule because, uh, you know, pizza is my favorite food and uh oh really and and if somebody asked me, you know, Matt, why you know you say certain types of pizza are gross and other types are good. Here's here's how. This is what I tell people. If you want your pizza to be delicious, you should only choose delicious toppings. If you choose disgusting toppings, your pizza will be disgusting and that's all you have to know.

44:09 Speaker 2: Now. With that said, you know pizza is hard to find. Come around here there's good pizza and there's Sorry New Hampshire, there's not. If you're from New York, you're not gonna love the pizza, right. Have you been to Pellis in Peterborough?

44:21 Speaker 4: No?

44:21 Speaker 2: No, they're good, really, Yeaelli, they're only getting better too.

44:25 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:25 Speaker 2: They are very traditional in like New York style slices and they still slices by the singles Monday through Friday, eleven am to four pm.

44:35 Speaker 1: You being from New York, you you, I mean, you wouldn't say that if it wasn't true.

44:39 Speaker 2: So it's now is it New York pizza? No? But but there's something in the water, so it's the closes probably so far. Yeah, I've heard think that people have told me about Tilton's House of Pizza, and I need to check out. Apparently I've had good pizza. I kind of like bad pizza too. I just love pizza. Yeah, I'm the same way. Yeah, it doesn't have to be great exactly.

44:59 Speaker 1: I love you.

45:00 Speaker 2: Cumber Cumby's Farm's pizza makes me happy. Sure, I'm gonna get all I hate for that.

45:04 Speaker 1: But yeah, seven eleven pizza isn't bad if like when it's fresh, but it has to be fresh because once it turns, it turns. Oh yeah, I fell into a habit of you. I don't need seven eleven pizza anymore, but I felt of eating it. But it had to be like like I mean, like within the last five minutes.

45:21 Speaker 2: It had to have been put Yeah, Otherwise something happens to cheese at.

45:24 Speaker 1: Minute six it turns into something horrible.

45:26 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not stupid. I know it's not real. I know it's yeah, yeah, I know that's not really. That's not real. Right, that's not tomato, right right, making me hungry?

45:38 Speaker 1: All right, Temple Mountain is here with us live in studio, and what are you gonna play for us?

45:42 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a John Mayer song if that's okay, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'll play your Body's of Wonderland me happy, all right, very good.

46:10 Speaker 5: We got the afternoon. You got this room for two.

46:19 Speaker 4: One thing that's love to do, discovernment, discovering you one mind to every inch of your skin like Parson Lamb, one pair of cant lips and your buble gun too

46:46 Speaker 4: and If you want love, make it swimming a deep sea of blankets. Take your big plants and break up. This is bound to be a wow.

47:05 Speaker 9: Your body is wanting land. Your body is a wonder I'll use my hands. Your body is wanton land. Something about the way the half falls in your face. I love the shape you take when Crawnto honts belowcans.

47:30 Speaker 5: You tell me where to go, and the way might lead. Found it and never let your head hit the bed. Found my hand behind it. One off, Make it swim in the deep sea plants. Take on your big plants and break them.

47:52 Speaker 4: This is bound to be a wow.

47:56 Speaker 5: Your body is wanting lands.

48:01 Speaker 2: Your body is wandering.

48:03 Speaker 5: All you use my hands.

48:06 Speaker 10: Your body is wander les. Damn very man, you frustrate.

48:20 Speaker 5: May I know your mind, own mine, own mind. But she looked so good it hurts.

48:29 Speaker 9: Sometimes body is wander lands. Your body is wandering All you use my hands. Your body is wanting that.

49:09 Speaker 1: That's a long fade. But you know what's funny, I was thinking about this as you were playing it. I haven't heard you know his version, the original version, in a long time. But speaking of fades, there's I always thought it was kind of funny how the song kind of tricks you a little bit in that it sounds like it's over. There's a point where the song sounds like it's over, where.

49:30 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, and it goes to that like.

49:34 Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean, which is not because I've said this to other people and they don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, there's a point in the song where it's like, if you haven't heard it before, you're sure the fade out is right there, and then it doesn't happen.

49:46 Speaker 2: He does that. Actually a lot on Squares is a song called My Stupid Mouth, and there's a part where it just ends and then he goes one more thing.

49:54 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like, clarity, that's a a song that I really like. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.

50:05 Speaker 2: I don't know my whole schedule, but I'm all over the place if you want to find out www dot Temple Maso music dot com. I just updated the website too, so oh, very good, very good.

50:14 Speaker 1: You do all that yourself, the yeah web web stuff, Yeah, yeah, excellent. Yeah, No, it's a nice website.

50:19 Speaker 2: Thank you.

50:19 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a website nerd. I look at websites and judge them.

50:23 Speaker 2: That's I don't know what I'm doing. So that means a lot to me.

50:25 Speaker 1: Well, because a lot of a lot of our guests, I look at their websites and it's like, oh, they're so like you know, I'll have a band on It's like, oh, there's such a great band and their website it's horrible.

50:37 Speaker 2: You know, invest put if you make money at gigs, put money back into things. You know. I paid for a graphic designer. Shout to Emily Perry for designing my logo and ever since that, that was like a game changer, Like I don't get so many gigs from that logo.

50:51 Speaker 1: Don kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great that you say that though, because that demonstrates that sometimes, you know, even just tweaking one thing oh yeah, that most people might not think would make a difference sometimes just just everything. Yeah.

51:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, And learning how to talk to people is so important, yes, you know, don't. Yeah, I have a real pet peeve when I hear like, I know, we I go, but when I hear an artist like almost like say something condescending to like a person.

51:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like just be nice, right right, just do it? Yeah.

51:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hard. It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything. No, it's not easy either sometimes, but yeah, make it easy, find a way.

51:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and that's how you build relationships exactly. Yeah. Absolutely. And then uh and Stacey the new single, which we'll we'll play again to close out to a segment two you because this is out today on all the streaming platforms and there's a video coming soon and like a.

51:42 Speaker 2: Week, okay, yeah it might yeah, I'll probably release it in a week.

51:45 Speaker 1: All right, all right, excellent, excellent, Well, thank you my friend. This is always wonderful to see you. I think this is your Is this your third time on the show.

51:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for always having me you guys, that's really sweet.

51:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely no, we we love to have you on. And I'll remind people too. Eric was also on Rob's show Grantite State of Mind, so you can find that in the archive as well. And we will close out the segment once again with the brand new single out today. It is called Stacey by Temple Mountain. Thanks again,