Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed: Two Towns "Covered Up"
Speaker 1: Yeah, see sitting and living room.
Speaker 2: Your life's gone by way too soon we can be
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 3: Back in the bank.
Speaker 1: We live by the times they.
Speaker 4: Went to face rob towns that we shall now.
Speaker 3: I know you did knockings.
Speaker 2: You will seeking around with another dude. I can't set
Speaker 2: up be packing soon. I'm running away. I'm leaving today,
Speaker 2: coming back by.
Speaker 5: Sorry to Leigo Salow, how broad away.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm leaving today.
Speaker 4: I'm coming back to Sorry to lead Sala.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was making my child.
Speaker 4: From an hour to the thought of being somewhere.
Speaker 6: Else alone with you having me shook it off and
Speaker 6: shake him.
Speaker 1: Don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: So where you from? Where you breenough from my heaven?
Speaker 3: Done nothing?
Speaker 2: And I don't really want to be the one who
Speaker 2: got caught.
Speaker 3: H start always and all away.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying I'm running away.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving to day, not coming back to.
Speaker 5: Sorry to Lego Salow, not Broada.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm leaving today. I'm coming back tomorrow. Sorry, leading Sorrow.
Speaker 3: Sorry where you're from?
Speaker 1: Where you been?
Speaker 3: Not from my heaven? Nothing not there?
Speaker 4: And I don't really want to be the one who
Speaker 4: got caught.
Speaker 7: I donk go away and all away?
Speaker 1: I'm running away.
Speaker 4: I'm leaving today, I'm coming back tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Sorry you don't leave.
Speaker 5: You, say oh, yay, I'm running away. I'm leaving today, I'm.
Speaker 1: Coming back tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Sorry you don't leave you and say yay.
Speaker 1: I'm running away.
Speaker 8: That is Two Towns. That is called running Away. Welcome everybody,
Speaker 8: and we've got the two gentlemen from Two Towns. Welcome back, guys,
Speaker 8: very well, very well. So running Away was a track
Speaker 8: we had played the last time you were here. We're
Speaker 8: gonna play some new stuff though, because you've got this
Speaker 8: great new I want to talk about this uncovered and
Speaker 8: I listened to the whole thing and just really really good.
Speaker 8: I love the cover versions of these songs. But gentlemen,
Speaker 8: please each introduce yourselves and remind us who you are
Speaker 8: and what you do in Two Towns.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, I'm Zack. I'm the front man of Two Towns.
Speaker 7: And do you all like the vocals and like some
Speaker 7: backing guitar and piano and harmonica and all the fancy stuff.
Speaker 9: So okay, yeah, I'm a James or j Money. I
Speaker 9: do the lead acoustic guitar, and I keep Zack in line.
Speaker 8: Yeah pretty much, Okay, very good, very good. Well, it's
Speaker 8: wonderful to have you guys back. Jenny looked it up.
Speaker 8: It was June the last time that that you guys
Speaker 8: were here, so it's really good to have you here.
Speaker 8: Tell us about tell us about the new project Uncovered,
Speaker 8: and uh, why why did you decide to do this?
Speaker 8: And I'm curious too to know, you know, and we'll
Speaker 8: play some of them today, but I'm curious to know
Speaker 8: what went into choosing these songs to cover.
Speaker 7: So we changed the name of it. It's called Two
Speaker 7: Towns Covered Up and that's gonna be the album name.
Speaker 7: We're gonna put it out April four. Yeah, we changed
Speaker 7: the name. We decided would go with something else, okay,
Speaker 7: but yeah, we're gonna put it out on April fourth.
Speaker 7: And we kind of just we wanted a mix of
Speaker 7: songs that we do live, that we truly feel has
Speaker 7: a connection with the audience when we play them, or
Speaker 7: just something that's less boring. We just wanted some stuff that, like,
Speaker 7: for example, like Atlantic City Bruce Springsteen. Like the original
Speaker 7: it's great and all, but we just wanted to like
Speaker 7: kind of bring it up to more like modern times,
Speaker 7: especially with how audio engineering has changed in mixing and
Speaker 7: mastering has changed, so we kind of just wanted to
Speaker 7: bring it into the new era. I guess. Yeah, we
Speaker 7: did with a lot of the songs.
Speaker 8: So no, that makes sense, you know, because you chose
Speaker 8: things that are not necessarily I mean some of these
Speaker 8: I would imagine if you know, when you play them out,
Speaker 8: people don't necessarily know that they're covers, right, I mean,
Speaker 8: because you didn't go with like the obvious. You know,
Speaker 8: there's there's certain songs that when someone says, Okay, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna do a covers album, there's certain songs or certain
Speaker 8: artists who are just kind of obvious. But these are
Speaker 8: a little more I don't know if obscure is quite
Speaker 8: the right word, but but not not what one expects necessarily, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we definitely tried to stay away from like really
Speaker 7: known stuff, Like there's there's definitely some on there that
Speaker 7: are like, Okay, yeah, this is this is something I know,
Speaker 7: or this is something that my friends know.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But then we also tried to like do like cough
Speaker 7: Syrup in Atlantic City and like mash two Luminier songs
Speaker 7: together just because as we kind of could.
Speaker 8: Yeah, were there any of these that you found particularly
Speaker 8: challenging to learn or to kind of cause you're not
Speaker 8: and you're not just learning them, you're also kind of
Speaker 8: putting your own spin, on your own vibe on them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Were there any of these that were kind of challenging?
Speaker 10: Would you mind? I had never heard that song before
Speaker 10: the day of recording?
Speaker 8: Oh, no kidding.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Zach kind of just threw it in front
Speaker 9: of me and was like, we're doing it. So I
Speaker 9: learned it and it turned out great.
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, but yeah, so you had never heard
Speaker 8: it before, so that that's a little extra challenging, right, Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 8: that makes sense, that makes sense. Were there any of
Speaker 8: these that you decided to learn that were easier than
Speaker 8: you expected that just kind of just came together like that?
Speaker 7: The Way Down was really easy?
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I thought that was that one was gonna
Speaker 7: be way harder, but that was really easy, no kidding.
Speaker 7: That one just kind of came together and flowed. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was one of the first ones we actually got done.
Speaker 10: There didn't have to really change a bunch of it.
Speaker 8: Oh that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Are you playing these?
Speaker 8: Are you actively playing these out? Have these been okay?
Speaker 7: Yep, We're gonna start playing the live or booking shows
Speaker 7: as we speak. I think we're up to like forty
Speaker 7: five dates on the summer run, so we'll see what's
Speaker 7: gonna happen. But yeah, okay, keep adding as we go.
Speaker 8: And you're playing them as two towns or yep, okay,
Speaker 8: I remember last time I made the mistake. I kept
Speaker 8: I think I might have been because of Facebook or
Speaker 8: Instagram or something. I kept calling you guys two Towns band,
Speaker 8: but it's actually just two towns. Yeah, but is it always?
Speaker 8: Is it still always the two of you live? Or
Speaker 8: do you have other musicians who join you?
Speaker 10: Just the two of us?
Speaker 8: That must be nice because you know it's simpler, right,
Speaker 8: you don't have to check with three other four other
Speaker 8: five other people. When when did you go to book
Speaker 8: a show?
Speaker 7: Yep, I've done that whole band thing. No, thank you,
Speaker 7: it's just too it's too complicated. Everybody wants their own
Speaker 7: opinion and their own spin on things. With this, it's
Speaker 7: just two brains and it's just okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 7: do this, and there's usually no disagreement, and if there is,
Speaker 7: it's just easy to get past.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, that's great, that's great. And on the album though,
Speaker 8: like what are is the album just all you guys
Speaker 8: are Do you have some other do you have some
Speaker 8: guest musicians? Oh, we do have.
Speaker 7: We had a guest musician do some electric guitar work,
Speaker 7: Tucker Tucker reeneh Art. He was great and he did.
Speaker 7: He's probably on like three or four songs on the album.
Speaker 7: And it's just like a few spots where we need
Speaker 7: an electric guitar and we're like, okay, we got a
Speaker 7: guy who knows how to do this, and.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, then Eric Eric is on base our producer.
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, Eric Eric from Blackheart. That was he did
Speaker 7: such a good Eric yep, solder.
Speaker 8: Of anyone who records, produces, any of it, engineers who
Speaker 8: is active in the scene, his name comes up more
Speaker 8: than anybody else.
Speaker 7: He is fantastic.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, no, he is. He's amazing, and we
Speaker 8: had him on the show. I don't know how long
Speaker 8: ago it was now, I was less than a year,
Speaker 8: but I remember, you know, Sandu him. It's great to
Speaker 8: finally have Beyond because your name comes up on the
Speaker 8: show constantly. No, he is amazing at what he does. Absolutely,
Speaker 8: how did you come to work with him?
Speaker 7: So we were gonna work with. There was another studio
Speaker 7: in match that had closed down. Oh I don't remember
Speaker 7: which one it is, but closed down to do some
Speaker 7: building issues or something. But after that the name came up.
Speaker 7: They were like, oh, we're closing down, but this guy
Speaker 7: Eric at Blackheart, like he's the guy you want to
Speaker 7: go work with. Well while we're shut down, And then
Speaker 7: eventually they didn't open up again, so we're like, all right,
Speaker 7: we just guess we're just gonna go work with Eric.
Speaker 8: Oh it was fate, probably worked out for the best.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it worked out great.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Was the entire album recorded with him.
Speaker 7: Yep, entire album was recorded with Eric. We're actually going
Speaker 7: back in June for this album was recorded probably the
Speaker 7: span of like three days, I would say. And then
Speaker 7: we're gonna go back in June and we're doing a
Speaker 7: whole week with Eric, and we're just gonna get a
Speaker 7: whole original album out and hopefully have that out by
Speaker 7: the fall.
Speaker 8: Oh fantastic, fantastic. Well, let's play something from the new album.
Speaker 8: So it's called uncovered covered up? Oh covered up? Why
Speaker 8: do I keep saying uncovered? I'm sorry, covered up? What
Speaker 8: should we I mean? I'll let you guys pick. I mean,
Speaker 8: they're all great.
Speaker 7: But start from top Astra. I was hoping you'd say
Speaker 7: that was my personal favorite. It was my favorite. Now yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't know what it was. And who does this
Speaker 7: originally Mountjoy Mount Jos. Okay, yeah, this is This is
Speaker 7: an example of the song I was not familiar with,
Speaker 7: but I was listening to it and I.
Speaker 8: This is so good. All right, check it out. This
Speaker 8: is astro van as covered by two towns.
Speaker 3: Angels smoking cigar.
Speaker 11: It's sotop sinfishness in the mall with room steel. He
Speaker 11: comes Jesus in in a strow van, rolling down the street.
Speaker 12: Beginy Stone Wild Jay play.
Speaker 3: You see lifing ever what he seems?
Speaker 11: These streams some more than paper things.
Speaker 6: He's our momy over a brain. Now people along the way,
Speaker 6: I don't want.
Speaker 11: To see those tears get you know, Jesus jobs a nastrove.
Speaker 11: Then yes it does, he said.
Speaker 6: To my heart.
Speaker 12: There's a holy goal strip and none go know, but
Speaker 12: those who know the best ones delp book come down.
Speaker 12: If I love that zip Matos are reaching now who
Speaker 12: the greed known? Every y has their rule Ooo, because
Speaker 12: life thing never what he seems.
Speaker 3: These dreams of all and baby things.
Speaker 13: It's all right, mommy or afraid now before a long way.
Speaker 11: I don't want to see those tears again, you know.
Speaker 11: Jesus jobs a nastrove ven.
Speaker 1: Is it does?
Speaker 2: I said?
Speaker 11: When I see those angels on who I know how
Speaker 11: made it? When my do be smoking, Jesus.
Speaker 3: Puts my name upon his guestless.
Speaker 14: He said, you're famous in heaven or maybe famous in heaven,
Speaker 14: or maybe there is no heaven.
Speaker 3: H Maybe we'll all alone together now.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to see those tears A gay
Speaker 2: lord Jesus Chrials and Astrovan is he done?
Speaker 8: Oh? That is so good. That is so good. That
Speaker 8: is two towns doing astro Van by Mountjoy. That's the
Speaker 8: original artists on that. Yep, very very good, good good job.
Speaker 8: Do you guys have Do we each have favorites on this?
Speaker 8: On this album uncovered, I keep changing mind. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I like to change it every other day. Astra Van
Speaker 8: Astravan's up there. Astra Vans in my top three. Yeah, no,
Speaker 8: vacancy is up there.
Speaker 7: That will definitely that one was my favorite for the
Speaker 7: longest time. I was just like, Yep, that's gonna be
Speaker 7: the best song on the album. Then I heard Astravan.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, maybe it's that one. I had
Speaker 7: to come in with a third, probably be sleep on
Speaker 7: your ho Hey? That one is that one came out
Speaker 7: really well?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah I did. I never you know, it's funny
Speaker 8: until I listened to it. Well until I saw it
Speaker 8: and listen to it, I never knew that that was
Speaker 8: the actual title of the song.
Speaker 7: That is not the actual title of the song. So
Speaker 7: what we did not no, oh, we took one song
Speaker 7: by them and another song by them and just mashed
Speaker 7: them together.
Speaker 8: Oh, I didn't even realize yet.
Speaker 7: We play the first half of one of their songs,
Speaker 7: sleep on the Floor, okay, and then we play the
Speaker 7: entirety of ho Hey oh, and we do it live.
Speaker 7: We do it live during our shows, Like we're like, okay,
Speaker 7: this song, that's second half boring, you can't get through
Speaker 7: the whole thing. So we decided to put the first
Speaker 7: half of that song of sleep on the Floor and
Speaker 7: the interesting ho Hey, which is more upbeat and energetic,
Speaker 7: and just mash them together during our shows. And they're like, well,
Speaker 7: if we do it during the show, why not do
Speaker 7: it on the album.
Speaker 8: That kind of explains my confusion. Yep, but they obviously
Speaker 8: they go together well, because I didn't even realize that
Speaker 8: as I was listening to it. It didn't occur to
Speaker 8: me that they were two different songs. It's like, oh,
Speaker 8: oh that's cool. Now what about what about you, James?
Speaker 8: Do you have favorites?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, mine are more of the like mellow would you
Speaker 9: mind sleep on your he and then COFs there are
Speaker 9: my favorite.
Speaker 10: That was my idea. He is not a fan, but
Speaker 10: oh no kidding it.
Speaker 7: It came out good. It came out better than I thought.
Speaker 7: But like, when we did it, we're like, we're really gonna.
Speaker 3: Do that one?
Speaker 10: Really, we were drawing it up. That's the one that
Speaker 10: I wanted for sure to Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you had to be talked into it, Zach,
Speaker 7: I mean a little bit the original is. I mean
Speaker 7: we're not we're both not huge fans of the original,
Speaker 7: but when we play it live, we like the more
Speaker 7: mellow toned down version of it. I think, like the
Speaker 7: originals a little got a lot, It's got a lot
Speaker 7: going on. So taking it and stripping it down definitely
Speaker 7: made me like it more. Okay, So yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 7: we put it on we did.
Speaker 9: Similar things with Would you mind because the original is
Speaker 9: a big lots of stuff.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we just got it pretty simple.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah. When you're recording these, do you record them
Speaker 8: with keeping mind like playing them live, how it's going
Speaker 8: to be to play them live? Do you keep that
Speaker 8: in mind? Or do you not worry about that part
Speaker 8: and say, we just want these to sound awesome and
Speaker 8: we'll figure the live part out later, Like what's kind
Speaker 8: of your approach to that? Do you think about that
Speaker 8: part or no?
Speaker 7: I mean I think that's probably the way we go
Speaker 7: with it. It is just like you just want it
Speaker 7: to sound as good as we possibly can, and then
Speaker 7: we'll just worry about playing it live after. Even if
Speaker 7: we have to play the stripped down versions live or
Speaker 7: whatever we got to do, or play with the backing track,
Speaker 7: then that's what we'll do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was curious because you know, a lot of
Speaker 8: people I've interviewed over the years, I'll say, well, when
Speaker 8: we go into the studio or when we go to record,
Speaker 8: however we record, you know, we think a lot about,
Speaker 8: you know, can we pull this off live? What we
Speaker 8: do in the studio, because to some musicians it's really
Speaker 8: important to be able to duplicate that live. But I've
Speaker 8: always looked at it as like, like what you were
Speaker 8: just you know, if live, if it's going to be
Speaker 8: more of a stripped down version because you can't replicate
Speaker 8: what you did in the studio exactly live. Who cares?
Speaker 8: So it's a more stripped down version. That's cool too, write,
Speaker 8: you know, because I like what when I go to
Speaker 8: see somebody live, I like hearing a different interpretation perhaps
Speaker 8: of you know, what they recorded, or if it's more
Speaker 8: raw and stripped down. That's I like that, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean, Like, it's like, Okay, it's live, it
Speaker 8: should be you know. Sometimes that gives it a little
Speaker 8: extra energy, you know, or.
Speaker 7: Yeah, changes it up, And that's exactly why we did it.
Speaker 7: It's like, Okay, maybe people want to hear something different.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Are you guys playing a lot? Because
Speaker 8: I looked at from what I saw online, it looks
Speaker 8: like you're you're pretty active, right.
Speaker 7: We played I think last in the past year. I
Speaker 7: think we cleared like eighty five to one hundred and
Speaker 7: fifteen shows last year.
Speaker 8: Oh, that's really good.
Speaker 7: This year, we haven't started our like show runs yet,
Speaker 7: but we're going to start next month. We're gonna start
Speaker 7: in May. Actually we're starting in May over at Telly's.
Speaker 7: That's gonna be the first day. I think it's May fifteen,
Speaker 7: and then yeah, it's just going to take off from there.
Speaker 7: I think we got like forty five dates so far
Speaker 7: and we're just gonna keep adding them as we go.
Speaker 8: Excellent, excellent? Are you are? Is there anybody that you're
Speaker 8: playing a lot of shows with, you know, sometimes Ban's
Speaker 8: team up or it happens organically with other.
Speaker 7: I don't know which one right, maybe, Yeah, we're working
Speaker 7: on some shows in Vermont and like doing some like
Speaker 7: bigger stuff. Oh nice, but yeah, because I'm from Vermont
Speaker 7: and I we had like a pretty pretty strong following
Speaker 7: Vermont when we started out because that's where we originally
Speaker 7: started out. And then I moved down here and we
Speaker 7: just kind of like it's not like a restart, but
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, we gotta kind of got to build
Speaker 7: it up again.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's definitely it's easier to book shows in
Speaker 7: different places than it is other places. So we're really
Speaker 7: trying to break into Boston Marcas. We play a few
Speaker 7: venues in Boston, but we definitely want to have it
Speaker 7: more be the like mainstream places.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that makes sensese, makes sense. Well, we should
Speaker 8: play another track from Uncovered. I'll let you guys pick
Speaker 8: what do you what do you want to play next?
Speaker 7: Broken Window? Broken Window Serenade?
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you?
Speaker 7: And who does that originally Whiskey Myers.
Speaker 8: Whiskey Myers. Now that's somebody else. I'm not who's Whiskey Myers.
Speaker 8: I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 7: They're like they country southern rock, Like yeah, like a
Speaker 7: southern ish country rock. They Yeah, they're kind of like
Speaker 7: not new to the scene, but like they're up and
Speaker 7: coming definitely in the past three years.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, I was gonna say, yeah, I hadn't heard
Speaker 8: of them, but uh, but it's funny with a name
Speaker 8: like Whiskey Myers, it it makes sense that they would
Speaker 8: be kind of like southern h Yeah.
Speaker 7: It like it's it's weird too because when we were
Speaker 7: I was in my like high school original band, we
Speaker 7: played a higher ground. I didn't realize that at the time,
Speaker 7: but it was us in one side of the building
Speaker 7: and the other side of the building was Whiskey Myers,
Speaker 7: and we were like just kind of like having dinner
Speaker 7: with them and stuff. Yeah, kind of it just kind
Speaker 7: of worked out that way that we ended up doing
Speaker 7: one of their songs.
Speaker 8: Do they know, Like, have you reached out to them
Speaker 8: and told them that you covered this song?
Speaker 7: We will, we will. Like this is the first place
Speaker 7: anybody's hearing this album, So yeah, we don't have this
Speaker 7: anywhere else other than we had an album released party
Speaker 7: last night that yeah, we got like all of our
Speaker 7: friends and family got to hear for the first time.
Speaker 8: Oh, very cool. Well, that's awesome that we get to
Speaker 8: share these share this on the radio. Very good, very good. Well,
Speaker 8: let's give this a listen. This is Broken Window serenade
Speaker 8: as covered by two towns.
Speaker 3: Here a couple of little pretty flowers. This is what
Speaker 3: I'm brought to you.
Speaker 14: I saw you through broken the Window with a different
Speaker 14: point of view. You had signs of depression from a
Speaker 14: long line of.
Speaker 3: See me over.
Speaker 11: Face tells his story about the please sees you have been.
Speaker 3: I loved soul, a soun you should know, Henny.
Speaker 16: Mudy waters flowing hesitating my hand, past the.
Speaker 14: Creek down by the holler, through your Tay's land. I
Speaker 14: could buy you diamond, but I cannot change world. Because
Speaker 14: I'm got no money and you'll never be my girl.
Speaker 1: Love a song.
Speaker 3: A fo you should do.
Speaker 17: Us gont be a singer in a big move is
Speaker 17: starn but you.
Speaker 14: Can't catch no brisbee and Hollywood is song.
Speaker 1: Now you aren't count out the time out.
Speaker 14: Other one fifty five beyond that savoy dollar, just trying
Speaker 14: to stay in love.
Speaker 3: It hurts me so thoun sh no.
Speaker 18: Here you feed your addiction with your crystal left desire.
Speaker 3: Please for your life as it takes you to your death.
Speaker 6: You made a deal with the devil, and your looks
Speaker 6: begin to fade.
Speaker 3: I saw on you laughing through the tears.
Speaker 17: As you slowly sleep to way, Watch to Go, I
Speaker 17: found you should know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch to Go, Thoun you should no.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 8: That is broken Window serenade, as covered by Two Towns
Speaker 8: on the new album Uncovered. And uh that is that
Speaker 8: is really good whiskey myers. Of course I did that originally,
Speaker 8: as you explained. And does that Zach? Does that require
Speaker 8: a different mindset when you're singing something like that, because
Speaker 8: you're the way you're singing it is? You know it
Speaker 8: fits knowing who, as you explained earlier, Knowing who does
Speaker 8: the song, and and you know it's got that Southern
Speaker 8: vibe to it. You know, you're you're singing it a
Speaker 8: little differently than you would sing a lot of your
Speaker 8: other material.
Speaker 7: It seems like, Yeah, yeah, I definitely Okay, I definitely
Speaker 7: adjust the vocals to what I feel this song requires,
Speaker 7: like based on like the just the emotion of the
Speaker 7: raw tone of it. I just like, especially with that song,
Speaker 7: that one came out like a little rasp beer than
Speaker 7: we usually have, And I think it just it just
Speaker 7: matches the song, Yeah, matches what it needed to be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, is there anything else that you saying that you
Speaker 8: kind of approach it that same way?
Speaker 7: Or I think on Covered Up, there's something in thee,
Speaker 7: something in the orange. Yeah, that was just like the
Speaker 7: same sort of feel like live when I play it,
Speaker 7: it's more soft, it's more subtle. And then when we
Speaker 7: recorded for this, it just came out way raspier than
Speaker 7: I intended, but it sounded.
Speaker 10: Good, so we kept it No Vacancy too completely for good.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I like having kind of a Southern draw on
Speaker 7: No Vacancy, okay, and I just don't have one when
Speaker 7: I talk.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right right, Yeah, obviously, now you're from Vermont originally yep.
Speaker 10: And what about you, James Somerville Mess You're fraid out
Speaker 10: of Boss.
Speaker 8: Somerville, Mass Okay, yeah, okay, And how did you guys?
Speaker 8: Obviously we talked about it last time, but for for
Speaker 8: newer listeners, how did you guys meet? How did you
Speaker 8: connect and end up doing this project together?
Speaker 7: So we like we were working at a like skiing
Speaker 7: marketing company together a couple of two years ago, year ago. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he still works for him. I don't work for him anymore,
Speaker 7: but we were working together at this company and my
Speaker 7: guitarist had just left the summer before that. He moved
Speaker 7: out west to go do something or moved out to
Speaker 7: the Midwest. I don't know what he's doing now, but yeah,
Speaker 7: so he left, and then I just went through like
Speaker 7: a string of random guitars. It's like, no, you're not
Speaker 7: gonna work, You're not gonna work, You're not gonna work.
Speaker 7: And then eventually James just brought a guitar to like
Speaker 7: one of the like business weekends or something, and then
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, you play guitar, and he's like kinda so,
Speaker 7: and then what just happened? Yeah, it just kind of
Speaker 7: happened yeah, he's like, I've been playing guitar for like
Speaker 7: three months now. I'm like, cool, you're now in a
Speaker 7: band or start playing live and recording albums? Like all right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: we kind of got up.
Speaker 10: To speed to three months later we played our first show.
Speaker 8: Wow, that's amazing. Had you really only been playing for
Speaker 8: a few months?
Speaker 9: I got it like maybe a year before, but it
Speaker 9: had been like pick a play a little bit. I
Speaker 9: wasn't serious until he asked me to join it.
Speaker 8: No kidding, Wow, Oh that's awesome. That's awesome Zach. At
Speaker 8: the time, did you feel like you were taking a
Speaker 8: It's just.
Speaker 7: Like no, no, yeah, yeah, he got it. It's it's
Speaker 7: playing guitar. It's not rocket side right. If you can
Speaker 7: play guitar like.
Speaker 8: You can do it? Yeah, yeah, outstanding, outstanding. Do you
Speaker 8: guys when you when you play shows, are you like, like,
Speaker 8: how long is your set? And do you do Do
Speaker 8: you do covers when you play live? Yeah? Prior to
Speaker 8: prior to doing this album.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do covers and originals. Usually our set spans
Speaker 7: It depends really depends where we play. Our average time
Speaker 7: i'd say is about two hours. Okay, so two hours
Speaker 7: breaks and whatever and just yeah, but yeah, about two hours.
Speaker 7: Then sometimes we'll play like three to four hours. That's
Speaker 7: when we really have to break out like extensive list
Speaker 7: of covers. Like we'll find us on a Thursday afternoon
Speaker 7: playing ninety songs in the span of four hours. So
Speaker 7: it's it's nice to just have that like little guitar
Speaker 7: tab thing there when you're just like, I don't know
Speaker 7: what to play anymore.
Speaker 8: Of course, I mean I would guess when you're playing
Speaker 8: a show that long, you can you can get away
Speaker 8: with repeating things, right, or maybe you don't. I don't know,
Speaker 8: because I'm just thinking too that crowd's turning over, right,
Speaker 8: it's not the same people there three hours in who
Speaker 8: are there at the beginning?
Speaker 7: Necessarily I did that one time I played a solo show.
Speaker 7: It was like two weeks after my guitarist had left.
Speaker 7: I played a solo show in Hampton and I repeated
Speaker 7: a song and this drunk lady just yells out, you
Speaker 7: already played that one, and I know doubt never did
Speaker 7: it again. Oh that's why I never repeated a song.
Speaker 7: And unless it was on accident, I've definitely played a
Speaker 7: song twice on accident.
Speaker 8: Yeah that makes sense. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Uh,
Speaker 8: we should play another one. What do you guys want
Speaker 8: to play next? I love these. These all sounds so good.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that one all right?
Speaker 8: And uh so your version is called the mashup of
Speaker 8: the two songs to Sleep on Your Hey, well a
Speaker 8: mash up isn't quite the right word, but you know
Speaker 8: what I mean, Yeah, putting putting these two together. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I really like this. I like how this came out.
Speaker 8: If you are just joining us, Two Towns is here
Speaker 8: with us and the new album? Is it uncovered or
Speaker 8: covered up?
Speaker 7: Covered?
Speaker 8: Covered up? I don't know why I keep saying uncovered.
Speaker 7: I don't think we changed the name.
Speaker 8: Oh that's why. Yeah, covered up, that's the name, right, yep,
Speaker 8: all right, I'm committing that to memory. No, but we're
Speaker 8: very happy to play these here today. These are really good.
Speaker 8: All right. Here's the next one. This is Two Towns
Speaker 8: sleep on Your hoe.
Speaker 19: Hey, yeh, beg yourself tooth birsty, thank you, save you, savy, bounce,
Speaker 19: take it with draws, take of savings.
Speaker 3: Because if we don't.
Speaker 5: Leave, this sound.
Speaker 3: May never make it out. And no, I was numb
Speaker 3: bun to draw.
Speaker 12: Baby, Come on forget with father bred and said we
Speaker 12: were not born in said leaving no on your bed.
Speaker 3: Let your mother know hear.
Speaker 12: Say in by the chisy ways. We'll live dreaming through
Speaker 12: this stage. We'll live dreaming through the night. Baby, Come on, because.
Speaker 13: I've been trying to do it right. I've been living
Speaker 13: a lonely line. I haven't sleeping here instead, I haven't
Speaker 13: sleeping in my bed, sleeping in my bed, So.
Speaker 3: Showing me famy.
Speaker 20: All the blooded old, Please, how do.
Speaker 1: Know I belong?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm wrong if I can.
Speaker 1: Write a song?
Speaker 3: Hey, I've been along with you. You be alone with me,
Speaker 3: my sweet, I've been alone with you. You been lone
Speaker 3: with me in my sweet.
Speaker 20: How do you think you're right for him?
Speaker 3: Thinking it might have been if we look abased to
Speaker 3: join in.
Speaker 1: Town, I'll be staying in non cannot.
Speaker 21: Him boy, she'd be standing next me. Hey, I be
Speaker 21: along with you, You be alone with me? Man sweet hand.
Speaker 3: Having along with you, you be alone with me? You
Speaker 3: must sweet hard.
Speaker 14: Eln wed now listen.
Speaker 3: Folk song, you sir, will.
Speaker 22: Blieved now I being along with you, you be alone
Speaker 22: with me, you mun sweethard, I'll be along with you.
Speaker 3: You mean love me mostly.
Speaker 8: That is excellent. Two Towns. They're here with us in studio,
Speaker 8: and you know, I was thinking, I was saying about
Speaker 8: this when the tambourine comes in, the mix is so perfect,
Speaker 8: and you know, credit to Eric Sotter for that. I mean,
Speaker 8: he's just you know, it's it's just so well done.
Speaker 8: The mix is just I mean, it's just perfect, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely like when when we first like did
Speaker 7: the recording, we get the rough tracks, I'm like, ah,
Speaker 7: we made a mistake. This is gonna suck, Like, oh,
Speaker 7: it's gonna be bad. And then like it's like it's fine, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's great, don't worry about it. Yeah, give it like
Speaker 7: a week and then a week late, I'm just like, ah,
Speaker 7: I don't know why I was freaking.
Speaker 8: Out right, Right, how long did it take to uh this?
Speaker 8: Ha would have been a lot of work, right, I
Speaker 8: would think it took a while to comple this, right,
Speaker 8: because it's it's ambitious. It's not like it's an EP.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a full album.
Speaker 10: It's you know, two days, two eight hour days, and.
Speaker 8: Then no, really, yeah, are you serious?
Speaker 10: Two eight hour days of recording extras.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And then I went in like two times under
Speaker 7: that and did like two or three hours at a time.
Speaker 8: Like I'm stunned. Wow, good for you guys, sub twenty
Speaker 8: hours to record it. Okay, wow, that's great. I mean
Speaker 8: obviously you went in very prepared.
Speaker 7: No, not one bit of no. I've no yeah, never
Speaker 7: really yep. I'm the I'm the kind of person it's like, Okay,
Speaker 7: we're gonna show up, but we're going to learn it
Speaker 7: all on the spot, no kidding.
Speaker 8: Well that works for you, apparently, I guess.
Speaker 7: So I've never had to play seven straight hours of
Speaker 7: acoustic guitar, but I never want to do it again.
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7: It was all the timing because I mean I've before this,
Speaker 7: I've only recorded in someone's basement. Yeah yeah, and I
Speaker 7: am never recorded before yeah, other than on his phone
Speaker 7: or like me in the same boat. And then we
Speaker 7: get in there, it's like we got to play to
Speaker 7: a click track. Yeah, which she's quite possibly the worst
Speaker 7: thing possible.
Speaker 10: That stuck in my head for like a week, no.
Speaker 8: Kidding, Yeah, but you did. I mean it works for you, guys.
Speaker 8: I mean I'm stunned at how quickly you did it
Speaker 8: and with with little preparation. That's amazing. I mean, obviously
Speaker 8: you knew the songs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like we play them live. I mean other than
Speaker 7: would you mind?
Speaker 10: That was just like.
Speaker 7: Trying to find the door. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know. And obviously getting to work with someone
Speaker 8: like Eric I'm sure was a big help too.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, no, that's that's amazing that you were able
Speaker 8: to do this so quickly. And then who did the mastering?
Speaker 2: Eric?
Speaker 7: He did all the masters everything. Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's perfect, It's it's really really good. Are any
Speaker 8: of these so is it safe to assume that these
Speaker 8: are all songs that you've you had played live prior
Speaker 8: to that or no?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, okay, there might be one or two that
Speaker 9: we didn't, but okay, when we just pulled from our
Speaker 9: set list, yep, yeah, it's.
Speaker 7: Like what can we play, what can we play well?
Speaker 7: And then we took that into consideration, like what we
Speaker 7: play well or what we play the best, And then
Speaker 7: we also took into consideration like we want it to
Speaker 7: be very diverse. We want it like that's what I
Speaker 7: think we're all about just two towns in general, is
Speaker 7: we want to play something for everybody. We don't want
Speaker 7: to cater to one genre or one age, demographic or anything.
Speaker 7: I want to play stuff that like from kids to grandparents, know,
Speaker 7: and just so there's something for everybody, and then naturally
Speaker 7: they'll be drawn to other genres by listening to our music.
Speaker 7: Because I mean me personally, I listen to everything. You'll
Speaker 7: catch me listening to ed M and opera in the
Speaker 7: same car ride. And then it's just I think I
Speaker 7: want everyone else to have that same experience and not
Speaker 7: limit themselves to what they're listening to musically.
Speaker 8: Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, absolutely. Are you the same way? James?
Speaker 9: Pretty diverse, honestly, kind of ironic. The only music I
Speaker 9: don't listen to his Country, which is what we play.
Speaker 9: I've warmed up to it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there you go, There you go. Do you
Speaker 8: have I mean, do you intend to do this again?
Speaker 8: Or is oh no, Actually I think you did mention earlier.
Speaker 8: You've got an original album coming up right, or or
Speaker 8: an EP or something.
Speaker 7: Ye, We're gonna do a full full length album in
Speaker 7: June with Eric again and hopefully that comes out by
Speaker 7: the fall, and that's gonna be five days of us
Speaker 7: just locking ourselves in a studio.
Speaker 8: Yeah, are you are you intentionally kind of spreading it
Speaker 8: out this time over five days, so it's not like, yeah,
Speaker 8: because you mentioned how hard that was.
Speaker 7: To Yeah, I don't want to have to go back
Speaker 7: in again, like I want it to be done in
Speaker 7: the five days. Yeah, that makes sense and then not
Speaker 7: have to like go in and just be like, oh,
Speaker 7: here's another thing, here's another thing. Because then, especially with
Speaker 7: recording an original album, that's when ideas hit a wall.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, especially when like you're like, oh, five days straight,
Speaker 7: like we're gonna get all this done, the ideas are
Speaker 7: gonna flow, and it's gonna be one big musical process.
Speaker 7: And then if I have to come back in a
Speaker 7: week later and be like scrap the whole thing, I
Speaker 7: hate it. I don't want to do that, right right, Yeah, understandable.
Speaker 7: I always think it's funny.
Speaker 8: You see too, these uh documentaries of very famous, very
Speaker 8: successful artists who you know, you see a documentary about
Speaker 8: them working in the studio, you know, Pink Floyda, Fleewood
Speaker 8: Mac or somebody in there, and it's like, because they
Speaker 8: have all the money in the world, they can they
Speaker 8: can do this thing where you know, they're like writing
Speaker 8: songs in the studio they're coming up with all these
Speaker 8: new ideas while they're while they're recording. But they you know,
Speaker 8: and they can do that, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 8: and then it ends up taking you know, eight months
Speaker 8: to complete an album. But they have the resources to
Speaker 8: do that. But you know, when you're when you're young
Speaker 8: and you're starting out and you know you've really got
Speaker 8: to be you know, hence the going in for two days, right,
Speaker 8: and that for two days, it's just trying to do
Speaker 8: as much as you can.
Speaker 7: And yep, that was a lot.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but like I said, it worked out. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is this album covered up really really good. I
Speaker 8: love these We should play another one? Uh, what do
Speaker 8: you guys want to play?
Speaker 7: No Vacancy?
Speaker 8: No Vacancy?
Speaker 10: Okay?
Speaker 8: And who did this originally?
Speaker 7: Tredio Revival.
Speaker 8: I don't think I know them.
Speaker 7: They they're they're new, they're like new new.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, why'd you choose this song?
Speaker 7: I we play it live and then I just love
Speaker 7: the way this song sounds. All of their songs. I
Speaker 7: like the way they write, I like the way their
Speaker 7: songs are mixed and recorded, like they have a sense
Speaker 7: of like rashness to their music too. Okay, which I enjoy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: they're just like I said, they're just starting out, and
Speaker 7: that's someone we want to work with in the future.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, very cool. Let's give this a spend.
Speaker 8: This is no vacancy as covered by two towns.
Speaker 6: Seeing not a curve, sound like you're in the comb.
Speaker 6: We actually say it's goodbye and the phone here, and
Speaker 6: it's kind of got me feeling some TAMPOOA I can
Speaker 6: send hers sitting on judgment day.
Speaker 3: With empty bottles and motel rooms.
Speaker 15: Don't treat me quiet, they used and the coming in
Speaker 15: name don't treat me well paying for a floor five
Speaker 15: prison cell. But she comes as she goes, and she
Speaker 15: always says goodbye.
Speaker 3: And I get any things to be by her side.
Speaker 3: I got a bottle in the room and a motel.
Speaker 6: And a broken how loan vegan see brook holl lord vacant,
Speaker 6: see hell know vacancy said she called me around Halfdan
Speaker 6: stays ben a damn long day.
Speaker 3: Don't stay up. Jay had him sit out the prisoner the.
Speaker 6: Sports, watching basic cable, taking alcohol.
Speaker 3: Well, she comes as she goes.
Speaker 21: And she always says it's good bye, And I give
Speaker 21: Betty thanks to be by her side.
Speaker 3: I got a bottle in the room and a motel keep.
Speaker 6: And a broken how no bacon see broke in, I.
Speaker 21: Know vacon see.
Speaker 18: Hell no vacancy, sitting on a curve syde liquor, and
Speaker 18: my come.
Speaker 3: It says goodbye, and a phone up.
Speaker 6: Again.
Speaker 3: It's kind of got me feeling sometime way like I
Speaker 3: can see last sitting on judgment day.
Speaker 6: Well, but she comes and she goes, and she always
Speaker 6: says good bye, and I get.
Speaker 3: Many things to be by the sign. I got a
Speaker 3: bottle in a room, and moon sail.
Speaker 6: Came and broke and howl and old vacancy and broke
Speaker 6: in howel and old vacancy.
Speaker 3: I don't know vacancy.
Speaker 8: Oh, that is so good that one came out really well.
Speaker 8: Yeah I did, Yeah I did. That is no vacancy
Speaker 8: as covered by two towns. And now who's that on
Speaker 8: guitar game? We gotta we gotta give him some some shine.
Speaker 7: That's uh, Tucker Reinhardt. He's a buddy of ours. He'd
Speaker 7: kind of just started coming and hanging out at the
Speaker 7: apartment and it was just like, oh, I play guitar too,
Speaker 7: like cool, So then we would all just sit around
Speaker 7: have a few drinks and then start playing together. And yeah,
Speaker 7: eventually studio time came and I'm like, well, I don't
Speaker 7: want to do this. He didn't want to do it.
Speaker 7: They're like, oh, we'll just gonna call it Tucker. He's
Speaker 7: gonna do it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah. I love what he plays in
Speaker 8: his tone, everything, everything, that's perfect. Yeah, that's probably my favorite.
Speaker 8: I think I said earlier it might have been astro Van,
Speaker 8: but I think that's actually I think No Vacancy is
Speaker 8: my favorite. Yeah, that's so good. It's got a great vibe.
Speaker 8: And who's the original band on that? Again?
Speaker 7: That's a Treaty O Revival.
Speaker 8: Okay, Treaty Oak Revival.
Speaker 7: And they're new, they're new, Yeah, okay, okay hitting the scene.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got to look into them. Are they from?
Speaker 8: Where are they from? Do you know they're not from here?
Speaker 8: Are they?
Speaker 7: No, they're not from here?
Speaker 10: I don't think.
Speaker 7: I want to say out west somewhere? Okay, mid West
Speaker 7: maybe southern.
Speaker 8: Sounds like it. Yeah, Yeah, No, that's that's really good.
Speaker 8: That's a really great song. And then now for the
Speaker 8: for the next project, because you've got as you we
Speaker 8: talked about earlier, you're gonna be doing an original album,
Speaker 8: do you already have the material for that or are
Speaker 8: you still writing for that or.
Speaker 7: We've got a few things like, I mean, I've had
Speaker 7: stuff backlogged for a little bit now. But at the
Speaker 7: same time, I don't want it to be just me. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I also wanted to be like us just getting in
Speaker 7: a room together and just figuring out kind of what's
Speaker 7: gonna go on it and how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I definitely don't want an everything to come
Speaker 7: from me. I want like James's creative input to.
Speaker 10: Kind of like this one.
Speaker 9: It's we have songs like Astrovan and then we have
Speaker 9: songs like no Vival where they're just completely different as
Speaker 9: far as like the tone and our first original we
Speaker 9: kind of wanted to be the same where there's like
Speaker 9: heavier songs, lighter songs, and then after that.
Speaker 10: We'll release more yea themed Okay, okay projects.
Speaker 8: Will that be the first full album of original material
Speaker 8: that you guys have done.
Speaker 10: Or with me on the band with City?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, Shell was two years ago. Okay, with that
Speaker 7: was with Hunter. That was the first like oh Towns
Speaker 7: album with Shelle City.
Speaker 8: Gotcha so the track we played earlier at the top
Speaker 8: of the segment that was from that Yeah, okay, right right, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's starting to come back to me now. Yeah, because
Speaker 8: it was almost a year ago. Jenny looked it up.
Speaker 8: It was June, the last time you guys were here.
Speaker 8: So yeah, and yeah, you guys have been busy with
Speaker 8: all the shows and recording this album and so, but
Speaker 8: you probably don't have an ETA right on the new one.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be when did you say, like fall by fall?
Speaker 7: I want it to be. I want it to be
Speaker 7: like if we do the album in June, like we're
Speaker 7: planning on doing. Okay, then yeah, August September, hopefully towards
Speaker 7: the end of our show run. I think our shows
Speaker 7: are probably gonna wrap up around late August early so
Speaker 7: I know we have some shows in early September already,
Speaker 7: so right around there, kind of take the headwinds from
Speaker 7: touring and then just throw it right into the album
Speaker 7: coming out.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, very good, very good. We're gonna play one
Speaker 8: more track in a moment to finish out. But I
Speaker 8: want to make sure our listeners know where's the best
Speaker 8: place to go online to keep up with everything you
Speaker 8: guys are doing. You're very busy. You've got you've got this,
Speaker 8: You've got the shows, you play, play a lot. Where
Speaker 8: should people go to keep up?
Speaker 7: Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, two Towns Yep, you can find us
Speaker 7: there and Spotify. Make sure to pre save the album.
Speaker 7: We'll be getting that on there for a pre save,
Speaker 7: probably by the end of the weekend. And then yeah,
Speaker 7: April fourth is the hard launch date for the album.
Speaker 8: April fourth. Great, congratulations on it. It sounds amazing, sounds amazing. Absolutely, guys,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let you pick what should we close out with?
Speaker 7: From Atlantic City?
Speaker 10: Atlantic City?
Speaker 8: From Covered Up? Yeah, I almost said the wrong name again.
Speaker 8: I almost said that's why I glitched. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 8: Atlantic City, Okay, And who's the original? Oh? This is
Speaker 8: the spring Scene yep. I hope our friend Rob Azevito
Speaker 8: is listening. I don't know if you guys know Rob.
Speaker 8: Here's the show granted State of Mind Fridays at six
Speaker 8: and he's a huge Springsteen fan.
Speaker 7: Yeah. This was a good This was a good one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, this is really good. So Rob, if you're listening,
Speaker 8: well I hope you're listening. If not, I'll make sure
Speaker 8: you know about this so you can check it out later.
Speaker 8: Atlantic City by as covered by two towns and guys,
Speaker 8: thank you again so much.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 8: We leave you with this. This is Atlantic City, as
Speaker 8: covered by two towns.
Speaker 23: Well they blew up the chicken man in Philly last night,
Speaker 23: Well they blew off his house to down on the
Speaker 23: bull walk the getting ready for a five. Gonna see
Speaker 23: what the racket of boys can do.
Speaker 11: Now there's troumble busting, and from now estay in the
Speaker 11: d can get new Illy. I'm gonna be a rumble
Speaker 11: loud on promenade in the gambling commissioners, singing all about
Speaker 11: skin of his.
Speaker 16: Well, everything does, baby, that's certain facts. Maybe everything it
Speaker 16: does some day comes back should make a bound fix
Speaker 16: you have pretty, He means now, Dinny in Ani.
Speaker 11: City, we'll I got a job trumping my money away,
Speaker 11: but I got.
Speaker 3: This honest man can pay. So I drew ahead from.
Speaker 11: Central, trusting about us two tickets on land co City busting.
Speaker 3: Everything does, baby, that's certain facts.
Speaker 14: Maybe everything it does some tack comes back should make
Speaker 14: a bomb fix your hair row pretty? And me means
Speaker 14: now any in Anix City, everything does baby at.
Speaker 3: Some facts maybe everything it does, some tack comes back.
Speaker 3: Should make a bomb. Fix your hair up. Pretty me
Speaker 3: means or now an Alani city. He means now any
Speaker 3: Lanx city.
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