Matt Connarton Unleashed: Why I hate TOOL

0:00 Speaker 1: Now, do you guys have any covers? A lot of

0:02 Speaker 1: bands will throw in a cover. I'm just curious.

0:05 Speaker 2: So we've been trying to figure out what what to

0:09 Speaker 2: cover and what we could make work. Yeah.

0:14 Speaker 1: I can imagine, like like some classic Sabbath like Sweetly

0:17 Speaker 1: for something.

0:17 Speaker 3: We do have a Sabbath song on the chopping block

0:20 Speaker 3: to learn for covering. Which one was it?

0:23 Speaker 2: Hand of Doom?

0:24 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I can I can picture that. Yeah.

0:28 Speaker 3: But yeah, I I've been in a lot of bands,

0:31 Speaker 3: some of which have played covers. I have like a

0:34 Speaker 3: weird moral hang up about covers because so hear me out.

0:39 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, very curious.

0:41 Speaker 3: If you play in a band that does mostly original

0:43 Speaker 3: songs and you play a cover live at like say

0:46 Speaker 3: a bar or something, you have suddenly become the disappointment

0:50 Speaker 3: jukebox for the entire audience because a couple of people

0:54 Speaker 3: in the audience liked the cover song. But then they're like, hey,

0:56 Speaker 3: can you play leather and Lace or like something, and

1:00 Speaker 3: you can't. You play leather and Lace, you can't play

1:03 Speaker 3: free Bird, you can't play Sultans of Swing, you know

1:08 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, suddenly you can't play what they

1:11 Speaker 3: all of a sudden want to hear and what they've

1:13 Speaker 3: tricked themselves into thinking they're there to hear that suddenly

1:17 Speaker 3: you owe them something. And so with me, I like

1:20 Speaker 3: to play covers if it really means something to me,

1:23 Speaker 3: Like if I can get something emotionally out of performing

1:27 Speaker 3: this song in front of people, play a cover all

1:29 Speaker 3: day long. But I'm not just gonna play you know,

1:34 Speaker 3: wagon Wheel because it'll Does that make sense?

1:38 Speaker 1: It does? It does. I can relate to what you're saying.

1:41 Speaker 3: And no shade to anybody who makes a living playing covers,

1:44 Speaker 3: that's that's not what I vibe with musically, you really speak.

1:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I can relate to that tremendously because you know,

1:56 Speaker 1: I played a bunch of bands and I always fought

1:58 Speaker 1: against doing too many covers. It would be hard to

2:03 Speaker 1: talk the other people I was in these bands with

2:05 Speaker 1: out of doing any covers. But I was in a

2:09 Speaker 1: band called First Shove, and like, the one cover that

2:12 Speaker 1: we were doing was we did Last Breath by Hate

2:15 Speaker 1: Breed and that was okay because it was short and

2:18 Speaker 1: it wasn't with with that kind of situation, It's not

2:20 Speaker 1: like somebody's not going to say, you know, okay, now

2:22 Speaker 1: do you know free Bird, you know what I mean?

2:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's true, like in that and that

2:26 Speaker 2: type of element, you know, covering a song is almost

2:31 Speaker 2: like more more or less paying homage to an inspiration.

2:36 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that band we played with it that red

2:39 Speaker 3: alert shout out to Trick Attack. They got at the

2:42 Speaker 3: coolest design I've ever heard of. So everybody loves the

2:45 Speaker 3: Tony Hawk pro Skater soundtracks, right, what if there was

2:48 Speaker 3: a band that that was their whole thing and that's

2:50 Speaker 3: Trick Attack, No kidding, Yeah, be on the lookout for

2:53 Speaker 3: Trick Attack coming to a place near you. They were

2:55 Speaker 3: so awesome, they were sick and they've got such a

2:57 Speaker 3: good idea of just like taking this soundtrack. It's resonated

3:00 Speaker 3: with so many people our age and exposed so many

3:03 Speaker 3: people to so many cool forms of music and uh yeah,

3:07 Speaker 3: just kind of bringing the spirit of that.

3:09 Speaker 2: And and to like skateboard to countract being played live

3:14 Speaker 2: that that was like, man, my fourth grade self was

3:18 Speaker 2: over the moon, respectfully, Yeah yeah, yeah, respectfully of course,

3:24 Speaker 2: the nostalgic it was great.

3:26 Speaker 4: Where are they from?

3:27 Speaker 1: Are they from around here?

3:28 Speaker 2: Trick They're from Massa?

3:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, mass I think?

3:31 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, oh maybe we can get them on the show.

3:33 Speaker 1: That's that's very interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I always I

3:36 Speaker 1: always fought against doing too many covers in the bands

3:39 Speaker 1: I was in or or. My thing was, if we're

3:40 Speaker 1: going to do a cover, let's end with it that way. Yeah, way,

3:44 Speaker 1: there's not that way. There's no misunderstandings about you know,

3:48 Speaker 1: are we an original band? Are we a cover band.

3:50 Speaker 1: I was just you know, we'll do well, well, let's

3:52 Speaker 1: do it at the end. But the other thing that

3:54 Speaker 1: drove me nuts to back in and this, you know,

3:57 Speaker 1: I'm older, So this goes back like twenty years. But

4:00 Speaker 1: there was a period where and and anybody, any of

4:04 Speaker 1: my peers from that time will know what I'm talking about,

4:07 Speaker 1: because I know I know some of the people I

4:09 Speaker 1: knew then listen to the show. There was this period

4:12 Speaker 1: where if you were a New Hampshire band and you

4:17 Speaker 1: were an original band that liked to sprinkle in a

4:20 Speaker 1: couple of covers, all of these bands were covering sober

4:24 Speaker 1: By Tool.

4:27 Speaker 4: It was so.

4:28 Speaker 1: Obnoxious and it wasn't even like all these bands were

4:33 Speaker 1: covering Tool. All these bands were specifically covering sober By Tool.

4:40 Speaker 1: And it even and I was in a band called

4:42 Speaker 1: my life crisis. And I remember one of the guys

4:46 Speaker 1: was like, because everybody in the band was a Tool fan,

4:49 Speaker 1: including me, I like Tool. I didn't. I never loved Tool,

4:52 Speaker 1: but I liked But I think I burned out on

4:53 Speaker 1: them because they just they were so ubiquitous. It was like,

4:56 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no more Tool. And I remember the

4:59 Speaker 1: conversation with these guys where one of them was like,

5:01 Speaker 1: we should do a Tool cover, and I remember just

5:03 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there silently thinking, oh, no, I know what's

5:07 Speaker 1: coming next. We should do Sober. It was so weird

5:11 Speaker 1: and I'm not even I'm not even exaggerating or being hyperbolic.

5:15 Speaker 1: All of these bands were covering that specific song.

5:18 Speaker 3: I must really resonate with the new Hampshire musician craft.

5:22 Speaker 4: I guess it was so strange at like twenty years ago,

5:28 Speaker 4: if you walked into any bar where there was a

5:30 Speaker 4: rock band plane, whether it was an original band that

5:33 Speaker 4: did one cover or a cover band, you were going to.

5:37 Speaker 1: Hear Sober by Tool. It was bizarre and it was

5:43 Speaker 1: very frustrating. And here I am, two decades later, finally

5:47 Speaker 1: venting about it publicly.

5:49 Speaker 3: Good to get that out of your chest.

5:50 Speaker 1: It does I've been carrying that around with me all

5:53 Speaker 1: this time. We'll be like, Oh, it's a great bassline,

5:59 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong.

6:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't we be sobhup? Yeah me too, man.

6:11 Speaker 2: I had a funny idea. I was thinking, you know,

6:14 Speaker 2: wouldn't it be funny to open with a cover and

6:19 Speaker 2: then before every original song you played, just be like, oh,

6:24 Speaker 2: this next one is war Pigs by Sabbath.

6:29 Speaker 3: I do stuff like that with There's another band that

6:32 Speaker 3: I play sometimes with. We're kind of like in the

6:35 Speaker 3: middle of like a semi break now, but we're called Targets.

6:38 Speaker 3: Targets shout out to Sean James Sweeney. Uh we uh.

6:43 Speaker 3: I kind of like MC for them because everybody else

6:47 Speaker 3: just like he is either too busy setting up there

6:49 Speaker 3: like synthesizer for the next song or whatever. So I

6:51 Speaker 3: just kind of end up like talking, and I'll introduce

6:54 Speaker 3: songs with like names that are familiar or like not

6:57 Speaker 3: say that where us. I'll say that like hey, where

6:59 Speaker 3: are the backs three Boys? Or where the fine Young

7:01 Speaker 3: Cannibals or something like that, like anything so that it

7:04 Speaker 3: seems like I'm am seeing but I'm actually giving the

7:07 Speaker 3: audience no information at all. That's kind of my stick.

7:11 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, that's cool. I like that.