Matt Connarton Unleashed: Ian Galipeau

0:12 Speaker 1: Thirty something years now, going up in smoke, twenty thousand days behind. There's just a couple more goal and it's alright, it's alright.

0:26 Speaker 2: Gotta have a little faith.

0:33 Speaker 3: Could have seen it coming somewhere down the line, buried in some double helics, some underneath ourselves a bat But it's alright, it's alright.

0:47 Speaker 2: Everything is in its leg.

0:53 Speaker 1: Seems so clear to me.

0:58 Speaker 2: Could have changed?

0:59 Speaker 1: It seems so mad me. Nothing complain, arts are feeling heavy, bodies get week, We will waste away together, fade into that sweet Really, it's.

1:30 Speaker 2: All right, it's all right. You gotta have a little speak.

1:40 Speaker 2: Seems so clear to me.

1:44 Speaker 3: Nothing could have changed, so wed me.

1:54 Speaker 2: Nothing could plain?

2:32 Speaker 1: Who's us on the mountain all upon the road I've been reaching down to holding me up and bear his heavy though.

2:42 Speaker 2: It's all right, it's all right. Everything is in its place.

2:53 Speaker 2: It's alright, it's all right. You gotta have a little baby same so jeus me cha seems so meplace. Hmmm.

3:27 Speaker 4: I really like that a lot that it's called a couple more to go. That is Ian Gallipo, who is here with us alive in studio, and we're gonna talk in just a moment, but welcome back everybody. We have entered our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and of course you can stream the show at Matt connorton dot com slash Live. Today is Saturday, March first, twenty twenty five. Jenny is here at the news table and we have Ian Gallipo here with us.

4:00 Speaker 4: Welcome in. Oh, I can't hear you, and I need to figure out why. Actually that's strange. I can switch that Mike should be on. Yeah, can you bounce over to that that chair please, I don't know why that's not working.

4:15 Speaker 5: That's weird.

4:16 Speaker 4: I'm not getting anything out of it. Okay, let's we'll try We'll try that one. Oh, I can hear you bet Yeah, yeah, awesome, excellently, you sound great. Yeah, that's weird that that mic isn't working at all. That's that's really strange. I'll have to look at it afterward. But so welcome.

4:34 Speaker 1: Uh.

4:35 Speaker 4: Your music has actually been featured on the show before. By the way, we should say, because you of course are in the band Modern Fools.

4:41 Speaker 5: I am in the band Modern Fools.

4:43 Speaker 4: You were not here for the for the interview, but but but so we have played your music before. I'm gonna just that just that camera there too for people watching online so they can see you. But no, but I love your I love I love Modern Fools, but I love your solo stuff too. That is such a great track. A couple more to go really really like that. Where did you record that?

5:04 Speaker 5: It's entirely recorded at home? Oh no kidding, Yeah, yeah, I've got a home studio setup. Did the entire album in my in my studio room.

5:12 Speaker 4: Oh that's incredible. It sounds like it was done in a million in a million dollars studio. It really does, it really does. But it's you know, it's it's remarkable. We talk a lot about uh technology, of course, as we were as we were in the previous segment, and you know, we live in a time where you can really get an amazing recording out of a home studio. I'm old enough to remember when your only real option was go to a studio and pay a lot of money, or if you were gonna stay at home. I don't know if you've ever seen one of those little task scam of course?

5:44 Speaker 5: Is that what you started on yet?

5:45 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So now though, I mean it's it's incredible what you can do, and.

5:51 Speaker 5: Oh it's amazing. Yeah, I mean all of the DAW's I work in logic. But you know your home studio set up, you can, uh, they were prof albums. Rights. Whole first album was recorded in his basement. I didn't know that. Really, Church is a home recording.

6:05 Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't. I had no idea. I did not know that. So do you do everything on the album?

6:11 Speaker 5: Are you?

6:12 Speaker 4: Are you playing everything?

6:13 Speaker 5: And I play everything?

6:14 Speaker 4: Oh that's incredible.

6:16 Speaker 5: Drums, keyboards, guitars, bass.

6:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's fantastic.

6:19 Speaker 5: Good for you, Good for you.

6:20 Speaker 4: And that makes it easier too, in the sense that I mean, well, I mean it's not easier in the sense that it's a lot of work, right, but but you get to create your vision of what you wanted to sound like without anybody kind of messing it up.

6:32 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting process, right, doing it all yourself.

6:39 Speaker 6: It was.

6:40 Speaker 5: I had a release show this past weekend.

6:42 Speaker 6: Right.

6:42 Speaker 5: The album came out of the twenty second and I had a release show with a full band, and it was so cool to hear these songs come to life, like these arrangements that I'd played one piece at a time. Yeah, played by a five piece band with me, it was was pretty special. Yeah.

6:56 Speaker 4: When when that happens, though? Is it because obviously it's great to hear them come alive, But is there any part of you that is nervous about what if they don't sound exactly like how I want? Or are you able to just let that go and just enjoy because in a sense, who is kind of an adventure?

7:14 Speaker 7: Right? Who?

7:15 Speaker 4: How are these going to sound with other musicians playing them with me?

7:18 Speaker 5: It's certainly an adventure. Yeah, And I trusted the musicians I was working with.

7:22 Speaker 4: Yeah.

7:22 Speaker 5: I picked these five people specifically because I trust their taste and their vision. Whether they're going to play exactly the part that I wrote, whatever they come up with modification of that, he's going to be interesting.

7:34 Speaker 4: Yeah.

7:34 Speaker 5: Good. I didn't just find guys on Craigslist to play the songs with, like that would be nerve wrecking.

7:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be, no doubt, no doubt, any members of Modern Fools who played them with you.

7:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, one member of Modern Fools came, the guitarist John who you met a few months ago. Okay, he came and played and I play with those guys all the time. Yeah. He specifically did not want the Ian Gallipo and the Modern Fools release show, right, so I had to limit the band to maybe one member.

8:00 Speaker 4: No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Who else were other people that we would know from other bands who played with.

8:07 Speaker 2: You that for that show?

8:08 Speaker 5: Or you might know one name Ethan McBrien. He's the front man of the band Party of the Sun.

8:14 Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah, I don't think we've ever had Party of the Sun on the show, but I am familiar with the band.

8:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, he played bass. Oh very cool, great bass player. Yeah for a band that doesn't have a bass player. Yeah, he's a fantastic bass player. Oh that's awesome.

8:28 Speaker 4: So what in terms of playing live your solo material, what's what's the plan going forward? Do you plan to do that again or or are you planning to play out with your solo I mean, obviously Modern Fools keeps you kind of busy too.

8:39 Speaker 5: Modern Fools keeps me plenty busy. Yeah, I play all of these songs as a not all of the ones on this album, but I'm a solo performer predominantly. Yeah, this whole album is different for me. I composed all these songs on piano, oh wow, which is not an instrument that I normally play. Have been a guitarist for twenty years. I picked up piano a little bit during COVID, Yeah, and just writing on piano was different. So now I've adapted most of these songs to work on guitar, which I'm excited about sharing them in that way.

9:07 Speaker 8: Yeah.

9:08 Speaker 5: I don't know how much band performance I'm going to do, just because there's a lot of logistics. Right, Being in modern fools is enough. Yeah, Band relationships are complicated. Yeah, and I think the songs carry They're different, but it was fun to do them with a band. For sure. I absolutely would in the right context, but it's not something I want to pursue, like we need to be playing four or five shows a month. Yeah, band, it's too much.

9:30 Speaker 4: So your solo material, you're comfortable just you and a guitar, I assume, or you or do you ever bring a keyboard?

9:36 Speaker 5: I never bring a keyboard. I anything that I've written on a keyboard, I've figured out some way to play it on guitar or not play it at all.

9:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. Are there songs that you've had to say this one doesn't translate to guitar well enough, and I'm not going to play this one, or do you ever run into that?

9:52 Speaker 5: Or Yeah, there are a couple on this that don't work.

9:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't work in terms of does the vibe just change, or yeah.

10:01 Speaker 5: The vibe is too different, or I'm just not technical enough to do exactly like I can do something close usually, Yeah, but some of it's really dependent on the bounce of a piano. Yeah, doing the same chug on a guitar sounds right right different? That makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. Now, what about the so on the album? What about the drums?

10:23 Speaker 4: Are those live.

10:23 Speaker 5: Drums or are they programmed or it's all programmed or you know, it's all sampled. A lot of it I've played on a keyboard, Yeah, a drummer, and then I've got to write an electronic drum set that plugs in for me as well.

10:36 Speaker 4: Oh okay, great. Yeah that's something that's changed a lot too over the years, technologically, the advances with that, because I like I remember I remember being a kid and having a keyboard with drum sounds on it, but they they sounded so fake.

10:49 Speaker 5: Oh, they sound so fake.

10:50 Speaker 4: And then you know, and there were also these programmable, these standalone programmable drum machines that some of them like you could get a realistic sounding The problem with those, again this is going back many years, but the problem with those was you could get a really realistic sounding snare, but the toms would always sound terrible and the symbols would sound even worse. Yeah, but but now it's it's remarkable what you can do.

11:18 Speaker 5: Oh, it's unbelievable. What maybe I mean? Uh, the guys in my band were like, where'd you record these drums?

11:24 Speaker 9: Yeah?

11:25 Speaker 5: Like, no, no, there are a couple of obviously electronic pieces in there, but the ones that are acoustic are well sampled. Yeah, they've got that full dynamic range and you really it's hard to tell unless you know, not real drums.

11:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's fantastic. Yeah, it's uh, that's a great compliment, right when somebody says to you, hey, where you know, where did you record these drums? Yeah that's great, that's great. How is your is your approach to songwriting? Different as a solo artist versus with Modern Fools or because I don't know if with your solo stuff, is that all self written or do you collaborate with other writers?

12:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, great question. I love collaborating with people. Yeah, everything on this record I wrote, and most of my co writes in my life have been for the other artist. Okay, but there's a handful of songs that I wrote with other people that I've written with John from Modern Fools that we that I play, Yeah, soul artists. As far as Modern Fools, almost all of that is written by Josh, the singer. I've I've tweaked some lyrics here and there, but it's we're working towards collaborative writing. It's just a it's a stretch anytime.

12:36 Speaker 5: There's a lot of vulnerability when you write with somebody, Yes, and it's yeah, Josh and I are working towards that.

12:43 Speaker 7: Yeah.

12:44 Speaker 5: No, that's very cool. That's very cool.

12:46 Speaker 4: How many, so, how many songs have you recorded? Just as as Ian Gallipo, Because from what I looked at on band camp, it looks like you've you've got quite a bit of solo material.

12:54 Speaker 5: There's a decent amount of solo material I think there's fifty or so on on.

13:00 Speaker 4: Oh, that's even more than I realized. Wow, oh that's quite a bit.

13:04 Speaker 5: There's two full albums, a couple of epe's, a bunch of singles. There's this a good volume of of solo material.

13:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, when did you How long have you been writing and recording solo material, because that's a lot of material. I assume that's over a span of a few years. Anyway.

13:24 Speaker 5: That is the oldest stuff that's on any of the streaming platforms is from twenty eighteen, okay, so seven years. There's a few other a couple of other albums that are only on my band camp from before that first solo album I think was twenty eleven. Oh, okay, when I was in a band called My Honest Thieves for a few years. Yeah. We released an album in twenty fourteen, which is still up on my band camp, kind of a rock and roll thing.

13:51 Speaker 4: Oh no kidding, Okay, cool. I think I've heard of or maybe I just feel like I've heard of Honest Thieves because that's such a cool name. That is a cool name. But if the name is familiar to me, yeah,

14:05 Speaker 4: so then now, so, how long have you been with Modern Fools. That has that that that hasn't been as long as you've been doing the solo material, right, because that's no.

14:14 Speaker 5: It has not. I joined up with Modern Fools. It's been just over three years now, he's late twenty twenty one, okay, And I started playing bass with those guys. And I mean I've been playing with various members of Modern Fools for a long time. Yeah, that's always the you know, the rotating cast of any of any music community, right, you know, I'm over and keen, and so there's a degree of I've played with everybody, oh there to some degree. Yeah, but yeah, I've been playing with the drummer of Modern Fools since high school.

14:44 Speaker 5: Cool together with John the guitarist for twelve years now. He was in Honest Thieves. Oh okay, So yeah, just a rotating cast, but three and a half years or so with Modern Fools, playing bass and singing the harmonies.

14:58 Speaker 4: Excellent, excellent. The songs that we're playing today are these all from the latest release.

15:03 Speaker 5: Everything is from the latest release.

15:05 Speaker 4: And is that a I forgot? How is that a full length or an EP?

15:07 Speaker 5: Full length?

15:08 Speaker 4: Its length? Okay? Well, was there anything that went into any anything specific that went into that decision, you know, because obviously, again we live in a time where you've got so many different options in terms of how you release music. Some people just release singles, some people decide to do an EP, some people decide to do a full album. Was there was there any particular reason you decided to do a full album. Do these songs have a sort of cohesive connection to them.

15:34 Speaker 5: Or they do each other?

15:37 Speaker 4: Yeah.

15:37 Speaker 5: It started out I thought it was going to be an EP. I thought I'd weed a couple of the songs out as I as I went through, and then I started going and I'm like, oh, I got nine songs, and maybe I could write there's one instrumental piece that's again piano bassed. It was like, ten is a nice even number. It feels like a full album. Yeah, these all are are cohesive in that again, they're the subset of songs that I've ever written on piano, Yeah, which sort of unique. And as I dove into them and work done them, I found that that there's just a lot of nostalgia built into this set of songs.

16:09 Speaker 5: For whatever reason, Writing a piano brings that out of me. Being a dad brought that out of me a bit. I've got two daughters at home. Yeah, and I was never a nostalgic person, and I have kids, and now I'm very aware of moments passing, right, it gives you that a different perspective. So these songs are all all sort of looking backward in some degree. Some of them are stories that are true for my life, some of them are borrowed from other people. Right. A couple More to Go is about this older friend of mine watching her fifty year marriage not fall apart, but watching her partner pass and doing it with more dignity than I've ever seen anyone do that.

16:49 Speaker 5: So anyway, it's not all sadness, but it's all there's kind of this rose colored glasses look backwards that ties these songs together. Faded Pictures is the title track, which isn't one that will listen to today, but it kind of prompted the idea for the album art of all these pictures of just my photo album, yeah, my family photo albums mashed together, and so yeah, it's a it's a look back, it's reflective, kind of just escaping from some of the turmoil of the last couple of years.

17:20 Speaker 4: Taking backwards did you. Did you create the cover art yourself? I mean, obviously that's your your photo albums, But.

17:26 Speaker 5: Did you did oh very cool, too much, too much the gallipo. I did every single piece of it. No, I think that's fantastic. I think that's that's excellent. We should play another track. What should we play next? We just played a couple more to go to open the segment, but I'd love to play another one. Yeah, let's let's do only Ever Always only over a second track on the album what?

17:49 Speaker 4: What should we know about this song?

17:51 Speaker 2: Any?

17:52 Speaker 4: Any?

17:52 Speaker 5: Any song is what Let's see. I wrote this. It was inspired by a book that I was reading and it just had this really beautiful love story that sort of creeps up on you. The second Chance that I thought was really beautiful, And part of this song actually came from a prompt. I was in a songwriter's group and we were doing weekly prompts last April, and because everything had started to turn green, the prompt was used the word green somewhere in your song, and it's snuck in there in the chorus. This was the song written for that.

18:24 Speaker 4: I just have to say though, before before we play the song. This is one of those weird synchronicities. Jenny's heard me talk about this. So this concept of writing prompts had never really come upon the show before. But last night I was on because there's a show here that Arizon Friday nights at six pm called Granite State of Mind.

18:42 Speaker 5: You might know.

18:43 Speaker 4: Do you know Rob rob Azevito. I met Rob yet okay, yeah, and he has Pembroke City limits and everything. But so I was here for that to help Rob set up Mike's for a sound because Katie Dobbins, yeah, came in and played live and the subject of writing prompts came up. She was talking about using pumps, you know, to help give her ideas for songs, and I've never really heard anyone talk about it that way before. And and then you you mentioned prompts. It's funny. Those moments are so interesting to me.

19:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but uh, all right, so let's give this a spin. If you are just joining us, Ian Gallipo is here with us in studio, and uh, this is great. This is called only Ever Always.

19:32 Speaker 1: I was fucking gently settled in the silence of frozen dark, an empty hibernation. You were there to catch me, drawn in by the wildness of broken heart, oh kind of patience.

19:50 Speaker 2: In your hands, my world.

19:55 Speaker 4: Scream the world.

20:00 Speaker 10: It's on the branches over the light, inside Glassy, it's capturing the light stall in Second Chances at the light, and you're right.

20:12 Speaker 2: It's not wrong right, you're on wrong or right. There's only ever.

20:18 Speaker 11: Always, And.

20:31 Speaker 1: Running from the hardy certain in the distance we had put behind the best could only change suns. Love was like an earthquake, overwhelming and escapable and violent.

20:46 Speaker 2: So we let it take guns in the worlds onfoor light.

20:53 Speaker 12: Every new screen, all the worldlife, But it's on the branches over n is come back, see.

21:04 Speaker 2: Capturing Light stole.

21:07 Speaker 13: In Second Chances and the night, and you're right. There's no wrong, wrong, right, only ever always.

21:43 Speaker 4: I love the way that ends. I didn't even want to talk over the end of it. That's so cool. That's Ian Gallipo. Only ever always is the name of the track. That's really nice. I love the I love the choruses on these and the you know the obviously you know you're how many? How many layers of vocals are on like that a song? I'm such a recording nerd, so I asked these nerd weird great weird questions. Probably nobody else care how many layers of vocals, but I'm just curious because it just sounds so good.

22:13 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. No, I love the recording nerd conversations here. That song has got I think nine layers of vocal. Okay, so it's it's like a four part harmony. My wife is singing the highest right, the female voice, she's got two parts, and then I'm doubling the lead vocal and singing two underneath it. Okay, So it's like a five part harmony with nine total voices layered in.

22:40 Speaker 4: Oh nice, Yeah, it sounds was that hard to get that right, like like the way you wanted it? Because that's kind of complex working all that out, or maybe it's not.

22:49 Speaker 5: Maybe I know.

22:51 Speaker 4: Sometimes it can be kind of instinctive when you're working out harmonies, but I.

22:55 Speaker 5: Working out harmonies is like my favorite nerd thing to do. Yeah, oh, I love it. So it's a little tricky, but it's a lot of fun. Like I do all most of the harmony arrangements for modern fools as well. Right when I was singing with with Josh and when we record together with two voices, it's always interesting like, what what can we do that isn't just tight thirds right? And so I know this is like music theory nerd stuff, but yeah, it's complicated, but it's it's fun.

23:26 Speaker 4: Yeah.

23:27 Speaker 5: I love when I am recording and I have license to like, oh, I can just fill this course up with a five part gigantic thing.

23:34 Speaker 2: Ye.

23:35 Speaker 4: How long did it take to record the to record the album?

23:39 Speaker 5: The album was over the course of maybe eight months. Again, all done at home, and it's it's the challenge in recording. It is is always just finding the time, right. I work full time and I've got children, so it's loud in the house for most of the hours.

23:57 Speaker 12: Of the day.

24:00 Speaker 4: Did you do all the did you do the mastering to yourself?

24:02 Speaker 5: Or did you say I had it mastered by a guy named Jim Bergson who's over in Boston area. Okay, okay, yeah, I record it. I did all of the mixing. It was mastered separately.

24:13 Speaker 4: Excellent. Now, why Jim Jim Bergson?

24:16 Speaker 5: Is that his name? That's his name?

24:18 Speaker 4: How did how did you choose him? Because You've got a lot of options. What what led you to to work with him?

24:23 Speaker 5: There are so many options. He and I had connected via Instagram maybe last early last year, and he had reached out a handful of times, just like, Hey, if you've got any projects, just keep me in touch. I really like your writing. I'd love to work with you. And I've worked with a handful of other mastery engineers who all did a great job. But I wanted to give Jim a swing. He's a good guy, and uh did he did a great job? Did a great job, knocked it out of the park. I would say, yeah, absolutely, Oh that's very cool, that's very cool.

24:52 Speaker 5: Now what is your Obviously you're always writing, right, so I'm curious, Uh and this, this hasn't been out that long? Right? Then week a week's Saturday?

25:03 Speaker 4: What's that new? Okay? Jeez, So do you plan to I don't know if you're thinking this far ahead? Do you plan Do you have another release already kind of in mind or are you just kind of focused on on this one in the moment or because you're probably always writing, I'm sure you've got a lot.

25:18 Speaker 5: Of ideas always writing. Yeah, and yeah, I don't have

25:25 Speaker 5: a concrete, certain set that I'm going to release. I've got another single that I worked with an online producer to flesh out. It's my first time ever just handing a song over and being like, yeah, you do all the instruments. Oh, and I'm really excited with how that came back. So I'm going to work with him on a handful of more songs. But so that song is called on borrowed time, that'll come out. I don't have a date, but certainly by the by Memorial Day. Oh okay, I'm going to move on from not move on from these songs quickly.

25:55 Speaker 5: But I've got a backlog of like fifty more songs that I think deserve release, and I'm thirty six. I can't just wait forever to do this. So this is like the year that I'm doing two full albums for sure. Wow, at least another handful of singles on top of it.

26:10 Speaker 4: Oh, that's great, that's great. When you play live solo, do you, I mean you obviously have a lot of your own material to draw from. Do you also play some covers or do you are you able to do shows where you just play your own stuff.

26:24 Speaker 5: Or I predominantly play my own material. Good, there's so much of it that even I've worked with I play breweries and things like three hours in that three hours, right, there's a couple of ten minute breaks, and I'm playing maybe five covers over the course of three hours. Like it's mostly original music, which is a way to do it. I don't know if it's the best strategy, but it's the strategy that I choose. If it's working for you, it's working for you. Yeah, I say, run with it. That's great, that's great.

26:59 Speaker 5: I'm also curious about influences I hear.

27:04 Speaker 4: I think a little bit of Ben Folds.

27:06 Speaker 5: Maybe, Oh man, I love ben Folds. Yeah, yeah, I think he's an absolute genius.

27:11 Speaker 4: I also thought maybe I don't know so much on that one. But the other one we played a bit James Taylor is that.

27:17 Speaker 5: Is he and your James Taylor is very much in my in my wheelhouse as well.

27:21 Speaker 4: I think one of the greatest songwriters of all time. Personally, James Taylor is.

27:25 Speaker 5: Incredible, agreed, and when he knocks it out of the park, there's nobody better.

27:30 Speaker 2: Yeah.

27:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, He's got some absolutely great songs. So certainly you've picked two that I absolutely love. Other influences that you'd certainly hear on this album The Postal Service, right, Ben Gibbard Death Cab for Cutie is another big influence.

27:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, that one never occurred to me, but now that you mention it, I can hear it. Yeah, now as you mentioned it.

27:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, other you know piano writers that I really look up to. Randy Newman, Okay, someone I discovered late in life because I'm not an old man. But later right, I grew up and he was the Toy Story guy. Yeah, it was You've got a friend in me and that. And then I was reading a Ben Folds interview whatever was ten years ago, and he said Randy Newman was one of his biggest influences. What am I sleeping on here? And going deeper back into his discography, it was amazing, you know the album's Little Criminals or or good old boys like he's just incredible.

28:27 Speaker 4: Yeah. Any any Frank Zappa, No Frank Zappa, Okay.

28:32 Speaker 5: I got to check out Frank Zappa. All my friends enjoy Frank Zappa. And I've never done the deep dive into his catalog.

28:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's it gets pretty pretty weird, but.

28:41 Speaker 5: But her mind weird.

28:42 Speaker 4: But he's Yeah, yeah, most of us don't. If you know, when we give it a chance, you know, he's got, He's got some great stuff. I I was never a big Frank Zappa fan myself, but a couple of years ago, so I'm on a show on Friday Night's called Retrospection Radio with PAULI C. And Paul's a huge Zappa fan, and he's played some stuff on there that's like wow. I So I remember when I was a kid, my parents were into him, but I never got into him.

29:03 Speaker 5: But now, you know, as an.

29:04 Speaker 4: Adult, you know, because you get older and you appreciate stuff that maybe you heard when you were a kid that you didn't connect with, but now now you hear it and you go, oh, now I get it. Now I understand what's great about this, you know. And of course there's other stuff you might hear that you liked when you were a kid where you go ooh, I used to like that. That happens too. But yeah, But and your your vocal style specifically, is there anyone you you try to really emulate or who influences you in terms of how you sing.

29:35 Speaker 5: Ah, that's a great question. Ben Folds would come back up simply because he does not have like a conventionally pretty voice. I never felt like I did either, And so it was like a permission to just have a voice. Or Ben Kuehler is the same thing. Okay, like guys who don't don't have that beautiful voice, right, I mean I I worship Jeff Buckley. I will never sing like that. It's never gonna happen. Or like, let's see Joe Cocker amazing voice. You just heard the guy sing and be like, what is wrong? But the performance just what makes it amazing?

30:16 Speaker 4: Agreed.

30:16 Speaker 5: And another one that I didn't realize until maybe a couple of years ago, was is Tracy Chapman. Yeah, definitely. I loved her albums when I was a kid. I love her albums still. And I didn't realize that some of my inflections were borrowed until I accidentally pitch shifted my voice up on a recording that I was working on, and I was like, oh, wow, I sound a bit like Tracy Chapman if you pitch ship my voice up a fifth.

30:44 Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting, okay, yeah, yeah, oh very cool.

30:48 Speaker 5: Yeah.

30:48 Speaker 4: Part of why I was curious to ask you that question is your voice, Like, vocally, you don't remind me of anyone specific, So I was curious what your influences were, which by the way. I mean that as a COMPLI because it's you know, you're I think it's cool that you sound you know, unique, you know, because some people, you know, you can listen to and say, oh, they sound like they sound like so and so. But to to not be able to easily identify someone that you sound like, I think it's cool, so and I think I think it makes what you're doing even that much more interesting, at least to someone like me really analyzes this stuff like.

31:18 Speaker 5: The nerd that I am, you know, I do take that very cool.

31:22 Speaker 4: Well, let's let's play another track. Which one should we play next?

31:26 Speaker 5: Let's do uh, the one we kicked off the show with here. What was that Getting dark?

31:32 Speaker 4: Getting dark? Yeah, speaking of pitch shifting. So we'll play this at the correct speed. Now, that would be great, very cool if you are just joining us. Ian Gallipo is here with us in studio, and this is called Getting Dark.

31:54 Speaker 2: Countdown. The lift of knowing you and I.

32:02 Speaker 1: Expectations were a couple of months. At moments, we would do our level best, carry on firely, rumbling down below sky above on fours and it's getting dark, the sky above falls and getting dar We made it farther th anybody ever forgot of starlight filled us up so we could stab beyond.

32:52 Speaker 2: The limits. Everybody said it would take their toll. We opened up.

33:01 Speaker 9: The whole world to explore together, just a light on in the dark together, just to light on in.

33:17 Speaker 7: The dark.

33:24 Speaker 2: Storm on the horizon. And all that you could do.

33:31 Speaker 7: Was walk.

33:35 Speaker 1: While I was overwhelmed, and there was nothing I could say. But my bader is long, and it's getting dark. My bad years long, and it's getting dark.

34:16 Speaker 2: We tried to hold on. The week's turned into months, still out of range.

34:24 Speaker 1: Until that moment when you sang out yr goodbye. I was too far gone for you to hear me. But the morning sun let the heart insight a fineal pulse, a glam the dark a fineal pulse, a glamor, and the dark together just stood light on in the dark,

35:06 Speaker 1: the sky above, and it skinning.

35:13 Speaker 2: Dug my bad is and it's scanning dark.

35:34 Speaker 4: That is getting dark. It's another one of those cool endings.

35:40 Speaker 5: I really like that a lot, thanks my sos. At the end, there is that what that is?

35:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

35:46 Speaker 5: I like that.

35:47 Speaker 4: That is Ian Gallipo, who is here with us in the studio, and well, the time does go quickly, but a couple of things. So, first of all, I want to make sure that everyone knows where to find you online, how to keep up with everything that you're doing, especially since I'm sure there are people who have no idea how to spell Gallipo.

36:05 Speaker 5: I don't know. Sometimes I wouldn't blame them, No, thanks, Matt. It's yeah, Ian Gallipo music, I A N It's Ian Gallipo, a bunch of extra vowels. It's French G A L I P E A U and music on Let's See, on Instagram, on TikTok, on uh YouTube, on Facebook, my website, Ian Galipo music dot com. You can find me in all of those places. I'm most active on Instagram. But wherever you know you're at, that's that's where I am.

36:40 Speaker 4: I was even misspelling your name the other day when I was when I was doing a post for the show today, I was I kept typing two l's, and I kept having to correct myself because I think in my mind the consonant to vowel ratio in your name was throwing me always. Like you said, it's friends. So there's a lot of a lot of vowels, so I kept trying to I kept trying to raise the number of consonants in your name. Anybody ever spell it wrong on a poster or anything.

37:05 Speaker 5: On a Oh? Yeah, who El's is the most common?

37:08 Speaker 11: Is it?

37:09 Speaker 8: Yeah?

37:09 Speaker 5: Who El's is the most common? And flipping the the e and the flipping the vowels at the end, au right, it's like beautiful or whatever. But a EU a U E like they just throw them in at the end. I don't blame them, I can imagine.

37:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny.

37:27 Speaker 1: Uh.

37:28 Speaker 4: And and modern Fools of course too. Where should people go for modern fools?

37:32 Speaker 5: Modern fools and Modern Fools music on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, modern fools music dot com.

37:39 Speaker 4: That's easy, that's nice, and that's much easy. I assume modern fools has never been spelled wrong on a poster.

37:45 Speaker 5: Uh, not that I recall, it's never been like a.

37:47 Speaker 4: Z Yeah, yeah, right, that's good. That's good.

37:51 Speaker 7: And what do you have?

37:52 Speaker 4: What do you have coming up to plug?

37:54 Speaker 5: Yeah? For sure, I'm playing tonight actually over in Hancock, New Hampshire. You've got an amazing uh venue over there, Like Hancock is the queint essential small New England town probably even I haven't even heard of it. It's I was gonna say, I don't know where Hancock is. It's sort of north of Peterborough, right between and Manchester.

38:11 Speaker 8: Yeah.

38:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's this old train station that they've converted, right like the classic long thin building. The Hancock Depot is a converted train station and they do a wonderful monthly series I've heard.

38:23 Speaker 4: Okay, that sounds very familiar. I think when Eric was on Temple Mountain, I think he talked about that place. He probably plays there, he has played there, Okay, because that sounds as soon as you mentioned train station. Yep.

38:35 Speaker 5: It's a wonderful vibe, really really great spot. So I'm playing there tonight. That's at seven thirty. My next thing near Manchester is just over a couple months out here. April twenty sixth I'll be over here playing at Great North Aale works in the in the afternoon.

38:51 Speaker 4: Oh Bill, very good. Jenny and I are going to be there later today. I don't know if you know Jenny's Sun Jesse Coffee, but.

38:56 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know Jesse Jesse. He's great.

38:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing there today. Yeah yeah, Small World.

39:04 Speaker 5: Sweetheart, Yeah yeah, he's doing all the booking over there now yeah.

39:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's doing great. Yeah. So we're gonna go see him play today. Yeah yeah, yeah today at four pm.

39:16 Speaker 5: Yeah.

39:17 Speaker 4: So, oh didn't did I know why that?

39:20 Speaker 5: I think I know why.

39:21 Speaker 4: The train station sounds familiar to me too, didn't Modern fools? Did Did you guys record a video there or something?

39:26 Speaker 5: We did? Yes, okay, that's that would that would so we did? Uh yeah, a live version basically of our album recorded in that space videos for it.

39:37 Speaker 7: Yeah.

39:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun.

39:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool. Well, congratulations on the album and everything that you're doing. And uh, it's great to have you on. We'll definitely do this again in the future, especially when you know it sounds like you've got another single coming soon, so I do well, Uh, we'll definitely we'll have you on for that, and that's going to be separate from the album. It'll be a completely separate thing. Yeah yeah, So, well, we'll do this again soon and we will close out with so we have one more to play here.

40:05 Speaker 4: Oh I'm curious too. The So the title is Thoughts of a Widowed Cartoonist. That's the title of the song this this ass have a story behind it, I assume it's so this song is fiction, okay, but it's it's as silly as this. I wanted to write a song it was. It came from a prompt. I wanted a song with the word toothbrush in it because I thought that was weird. Yeah, and I thought it would just be silly. And most of the time, when I give myself a prompt that's silly, it ends up being something very serious.

40:35 Speaker 5: Oh really, yeah, so this is that. It's it's sort of this song. It's the thoughts of a widow. For whatever reason, the guy's a cartoonist. I don't know why. Okay, it's just the imagery that came up as I was working through the verses of this song. Okay, So I wanted a song with a toothbrush in it, and I also wanted a song with a bass drop in it. I've never written something with that whoa, whoa whoa, you know, electronic instruments sound. I met those two things together and this is the song that came out.

41:03 Speaker 5: It's a little bit ridiculous, but I think it's kind of cool.

41:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely very cool. So we'll play that and if you are listening live on Saturday stick around. We have Becoming Human skyping in from Texas in the third hour, but we will close out this segment with this. This is called thoughts of a Widowed Cartoonist and this is Ian Gallipo and Ian, thank you again, Thank you so much.

41:27 Speaker 6: Man, your tea is fresh, is still here.

41:39 Speaker 11: Waiting on corner of the same under the mirror, having sound the.

41:49 Speaker 6: Strings, the throw out, Oh, I know, I should it? Lets me pretend.

42:07 Speaker 2: Laugh if you could see Wayne, my mind.

42:12 Speaker 1: Gets caught up writing captions for the Greek.

42:19 Speaker 6: Boxed up in the comic thoughts of.

42:23 Speaker 1: Find Corval distraction that helped me forget.

42:39 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's sad or funny little things.

42:44 Speaker 2: I took for grants and pieces of like.

42:51 Speaker 6: Every day and unromantic.

42:55 Speaker 2: Let us be on the pull up street and love when you.

43:02 Speaker 6: Return and done.

43:06 Speaker 2: Will stay.

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43:36 Speaker 2: More than's the same, Oh.

43:56 Speaker 8: Of the mind, where have you been?

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44:12 Speaker 2: The just came? Who love my? Where health of it?

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44:39 Speaker 2: That would say.

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45:12 Speaker 7: Naught he still bow down Cigartee tweets, Listen.

45:39 Speaker 2: And pregat mad w.

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46:27 Speaker 2: Don't call me.

46:29 Speaker 14: The mornings because I'm crying in my bed. Left with thinal mornings and I'd rather receive.

46:45 Speaker 2: Red hair.

46:46 Speaker 14: Shootook, she never was my friend.

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