Murphy-Clark | Matt Connarton Unleashed

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2:31 Speaker 2: You are listening to.

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2:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I told my heart go ahead and break.

2:53 Speaker 4: So God love.

2:57 Speaker 3: For goodness me? Yeah, I just about.

3:01 Speaker 1: Died all four feet.

3:06 Speaker 3: So I told my heart go ahead and break.

3:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, limiss to see you told me so.

3:19 Speaker 3: I learned. Thanks. I wish I didn't know.

3:25 Speaker 10: Yeah, it looked so good until it warns that hurts

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3:38 Speaker 3: I told my heart go ahead and break. So about

3:45 Speaker 3: the love for goodness? Sake you spoul died? Oh four

3:55 Speaker 3: feet so I told my heart go ahead and break.

4:03 Speaker 3: It was like a dream.

4:06 Speaker 11: Sure was so beautiful, so full of life.

4:12 Speaker 3: It was wonderful. Then came the day when she did

4:19 Speaker 3: he leaves. Man, it broke me up like you would

4:25 Speaker 3: not believe. That's why I told my heart go ahead

4:32 Speaker 3: and break. It's all about the love for goodness. Sake.

4:40 Speaker 9: Yeah, just about that all for faith. So I told

4:48 Speaker 9: my heart your head and break, yeah, go.

4:54 Speaker 12: On, break, go on, and cried, y'all cat broken.

5:03 Speaker 3: And I don't know why.

5:06 Speaker 1: Some time we get more than me can take.

5:12 Speaker 3: That's why I told my heart go ahead, brain.

5:22 Speaker 4: Yeah.

5:22 Speaker 3: I told myself go ahead and cry.

5:29 Speaker 9: Let the tears fall of your eyes.

5:34 Speaker 4: Why then once told.

5:37 Speaker 12: Me everybody lies. That's why I told myself go ahead

5:45 Speaker 12: and cry. And I told my heart go ahead, break.

5:53 Speaker 13: So I told my heart, gor head, brave, go ahead.

6:08 Speaker 14: It's so good. Another world radio premiere here at WU

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6:15 Speaker 14: Connorton Unleashed. That is go ahead and break. That is

6:17 Speaker 14: the Murphy Clark Band. Guys, Okay, right out of the gate.

6:21 Speaker 14: What's the correct way to say?

6:22 Speaker 2: Is it?

6:23 Speaker 14: Do I say Murphy Clark or is it the Murphy

6:25 Speaker 14: Clark Band?

6:26 Speaker 2: Yes, either one is fine. They are whatever you want

6:29 Speaker 2: to call it, Murphy Clark.

6:31 Speaker 14: Okay. So Jenny and I are joined live in studio

6:35 Speaker 14: by of course, Brian Murphy. Brian Murphy and Mike Clark.

6:38 Speaker 14: Is probably not Murphy, right, because then it would be

6:40 Speaker 14: the Murphy Clark right, Brian Murphy and Mike Clark. You're

6:43 Speaker 14: in studio and uh I love that track and of

6:46 Speaker 14: course as you as you witnessed, I could not help

6:49 Speaker 14: but sing along with it. And that's how you know

6:51 Speaker 14: you've got something right on the point, right, Yeah, when

6:53 Speaker 14: you when you play something for somebody and they can't

6:55 Speaker 14: help it sing along like it's not even like it's

6:57 Speaker 14: not like, oh I think I'll sing along to this.

6:59 Speaker 14: It's just an involved and terry motion, you know.

7:03 Speaker 4: Yeah.

7:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who we hope for.

7:05 Speaker 14: Absolutely, and we'll play some more of your stuff as

7:08 Speaker 14: we as we go along. But it's great to have

7:10 Speaker 14: you guys here.

7:11 Speaker 15: For having us and thank you for doing this. Oh

7:13 Speaker 15: absolutely no local bands need the support.

7:16 Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely. Well, we love it and there's so much

7:19 Speaker 14: you know, Jenny does all the booking and sometimes people

7:21 Speaker 14: will ask her, you know, where do you find all

7:23 Speaker 14: these great artists and.

7:24 Speaker 15: It's so much talent around here. Absolutely, you know it's incredible.

7:28 Speaker 15: You just use the word yeah, yeah, I looked it

7:31 Speaker 15: up this morning. Don't ask me to spell it though.

7:34 Speaker 2: There is a great word, yes, yes, hell does it

7:37 Speaker 2: mean a lot of pu yeah, you know. Sometimes Brian

7:44 Speaker 2: needs help.

7:45 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, we all need help something for sure. Yeah, yeah, no,

7:50 Speaker 14: I love it. You guys have a great sound. I

7:52 Speaker 14: feel like kind of the secret weapon is the vocals

7:55 Speaker 14: and the harmonies and everything is. And how long has

7:58 Speaker 14: this project existed? Have you guys been at the a

8:00 Speaker 14: while or is this new.

8:01 Speaker 2: Or we've been collaborating for about thirty years? I think

8:06 Speaker 2: we started.

8:06 Speaker 15: Working a while. Yeah, we started. You weren't even born, Matt,

8:10 Speaker 15: I think.

8:11 Speaker 14: Oh my goodness, I probably I probably was, But.

8:15 Speaker 16: Yeah, you know we started, you know, way back in

8:19 Speaker 16: the day, in the mid nineties, I was I was

8:22 Speaker 16: recording with Aquatanang was the name of the band. We

8:25 Speaker 16: were with Sony and Manhattan back in the big record days,

8:29 Speaker 16: no kidding, and uh, you know, we we worked there

8:33 Speaker 16: and then I wanted to find somebody local, so I

8:36 Speaker 16: did a session with Mike and I really liked the

8:38 Speaker 16: way he mixed, okay, and so we started working back then.

8:41 Speaker 16: He started running sound for us with Aquatanang and then

8:46 Speaker 16: started doing records together. You know, at that point we've

8:50 Speaker 16: been doing him ever since.

8:51 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that was in a bridge version. I sped

8:55 Speaker 2: it up a little bit, so, but yeah, that's that's

8:59 Speaker 2: how it's you know, and a bit more from there.

9:02 Speaker 15: Okay, yeah, okay, people change, you know, members changed, and

9:06 Speaker 15: the sound of the band changed. We went we're all

9:09 Speaker 15: electric now. Yeah that Aquatang was all acoustics. Ohkid, yeah yeah,

9:13 Speaker 15: so folks Dylan did it, We figured we could do it.

9:16 Speaker 2: Yeah.

9:16 Speaker 16: Yeah, so that actually because before, you know, after Aquatanang,

9:21 Speaker 16: well with Aquatanang, Mike started to do percussion for us

9:26 Speaker 16: and work his way in. And then after that we

9:30 Speaker 16: decided to start a different project of the first iteration

9:34 Speaker 16: of Murphy Clark, which was Americana, right bass. I played

9:38 Speaker 16: the mandola.

9:39 Speaker 2: Oh no kidding, Yeah, And we did that I think

9:41 Speaker 2: like twelve years until COVID hit. Yeah, and then that

9:44 Speaker 2: wiped everything. Yeah yeah, yeah.

9:47 Speaker 16: Our our guitar player had like fourteen kids and yeah,

9:50 Speaker 16: and so we so then, uh, Mike's always wanted to

9:54 Speaker 16: go electric anyway, the acoustic thing was my thing. So yeah,

9:58 Speaker 16: you know, during the pandemic when we had the shutdown,

10:01 Speaker 16: it was just he and I and we sort of

10:04 Speaker 16: broke the rules and I kept going into the studio

10:06 Speaker 16: and we just started doing studio stuff and I.

10:09 Speaker 15: Kept handing him an electric See I'm in a rocker

10:11 Speaker 15: from way back when nothing wrong with acoustic stuff.

10:15 Speaker 16: So he kept saying, you know, so I took a

10:17 Speaker 16: couple of years and you know, got comfortable with the

10:19 Speaker 16: electric guitar, and yeah, now we we have a new format,

10:23 Speaker 16: uh with you know. But some of the like the

10:26 Speaker 16: female vocals h Marion and Cindy have been with us

10:30 Speaker 16: of course since the awkward.

10:33 Speaker 13: O.

10:33 Speaker 16: So four of us have been together since all that time.

10:37 Speaker 16: And now we have Gary Young who's a world class

10:40 Speaker 16: lead guitar player. He does a wonderful job is on

10:43 Speaker 16: the guitar now, Jeff Harrington on.

10:45 Speaker 2: Drums, who owns Indy Music. He owns c Indy Music.

10:48 Speaker 15: And Amherst Oh put a little bitcher there, yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

10:54 Speaker 2: I teach voice there, voice teacher there. Yeah. Oh actually

10:58 Speaker 2: yeah we love it. Yeah yeah, music all the time.

11:02 Speaker 14: No, that's great.

11:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's tremendous, you know.

11:05 Speaker 16: I mean and as a songwriter too, and you know,

11:08 Speaker 16: doing music to accompany other singers with every kind of

11:12 Speaker 16: song you can think of, it really helps you see

11:15 Speaker 16: chord progressions, melodies, all kinds of things like that.

11:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it gives you a real heightened.

11:19 Speaker 16: Understanding of songs and music and all that, you know,

11:23 Speaker 16: and you just never know what you're going to get,

11:25 Speaker 16: everything from Taylor Swift to like Granddaddy sure whatever, you know. Yeah,

11:31 Speaker 16: so yeah, that's so it's been great.

11:33 Speaker 14: And so you guys have worked together pretty consistently then

11:36 Speaker 14: over the decades. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you don't see

11:39 Speaker 14: that a lot. I mean, you know, we have sometimes

11:41 Speaker 14: a lot of bands on the show that people who

11:43 Speaker 14: have worked together for a long time, but they've worked together,

11:45 Speaker 14: but then not work together for a long time and

11:47 Speaker 14: then kind of reunited. But it sounds like you guys

11:48 Speaker 14: have been pretty consistent.

11:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. We have over one hundred and fifty published songs.

11:53 Speaker 15: Actually, oh my god, wown Yeah two of them.

11:57 Speaker 14: Yeah kidding. Now, what's the what's the live situation? Like,

12:05 Speaker 14: do you guys play out a lot or what's u.

12:07 Speaker 2: We're getting there? Yeah, we're kind of studio rats.

12:10 Speaker 15: But you know, we we played a few shows being

12:14 Speaker 15: into the Air and we're getting our show together and

12:16 Speaker 15: we have some booked towards the end of the season,

12:18 Speaker 15: end of the summer.

12:19 Speaker 16: Yeah, one in Mount Vernon on the twenty third, okay,

12:23 Speaker 16: in the town Square in mont Vernon.

12:25 Speaker 2: Oh, excellent, July twenty third, and that's at six.

12:29 Speaker 16: And then we have two shows in August, one at

12:32 Speaker 16: the Prayers of Nature the listening room there.

12:34 Speaker 2: Oh yes, you've got it right here. Oh yeah, what's

12:38 Speaker 2: that show?

12:39 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, she's brought two or three times.

12:42 Speaker 2: A big supporter of local music. I love that.

12:44 Speaker 16: Absolutely, Like you dedicated and devoted to musicians, and we

12:49 Speaker 16: honor that.

12:49 Speaker 2: That's a great thing. Yeah, what I mean?

12:52 Speaker 16: And so and then if the that's the August eighth,

12:56 Speaker 16: we're there and I think.

12:57 Speaker 2: It's Andre's Institute.

12:59 Speaker 16: Yeah, that's the twenty fourth. Okay, that's it in Brookline.

13:02 Speaker 16: That's a really nice room too.

13:03 Speaker 15: There it used to be an old club called the

13:06 Speaker 15: Big Beer like seventies. I used to play there and

13:08 Speaker 15: there in the seventies.

13:09 Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah.

13:10 Speaker 15: And they reopened at the Art Institute part in. It's

13:12 Speaker 15: an amazing room. Oh cool, yeah, great. What's it called

13:16 Speaker 15: the Andres Institute. It used to be the Big Beer

13:18 Speaker 15: a lounge okay, like long time ago?

13:21 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

13:24 Speaker 14: What is so from from the perspective of you guys,

13:28 Speaker 14: what what has changed about? And this is something that

13:31 Speaker 14: comes up on the show a lot. What is what

13:34 Speaker 14: has changed over the years? As far as making music

13:36 Speaker 14: and and promoting music, and.

13:38 Speaker 2: Don't get me going on that.

13:39 Speaker 15: I guess my studio has been opened for forty years.

13:42 Speaker 14: Okay, so I'm really curious to get your perspective. Yeah,

13:44 Speaker 14: because everything's you know, obviously, the Internet changed everything.

13:47 Speaker 2: I mean when we started making records, we were using tape. Yeah.

13:50 Speaker 14: Yeah.

13:51 Speaker 15: Our editing capabilities was the race of blade and some

13:54 Speaker 15: splicing tape. Yeah, you know, so it's changed so much. Yeah,

13:57 Speaker 15: you know, Yeah, it's easy to make records.

14:00 Speaker 14: Yeah.

14:01 Speaker 15: I mean Billie Eilish want five Grammys off something she

14:03 Speaker 15: made in her bedroom.

14:04 Speaker 2: Yep. You know.

14:05 Speaker 15: So it's just everything's changed in the music business. Yeah,

14:09 Speaker 15: some good things, some bad things, right.

14:11 Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, I think I think overall it's for the better.

14:14 Speaker 2: Right.

14:15 Speaker 17: Oh.

14:15 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know I love digital.

14:17 Speaker 14: Yeah.

14:18 Speaker 2: You couldn't pay me to go back to tape.

14:20 Speaker 15: I used to teach audio engineering at a tech school

14:22 Speaker 15: and all the kids would be like, I'm going to

14:24 Speaker 15: open a studio and do analog tape. And I was like, dudes,

14:27 Speaker 15: you've never touched a piece of tape. You don't want

14:29 Speaker 15: to do that. You don't want to.

14:30 Speaker 2: Go back there.

14:31 Speaker 16: Yeah, you certainly don't want to go back to a dats.

14:35 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:35 Speaker 14: Yeah, when I was a kid, I actually remember a

14:38 Speaker 14: friend of mine had a reel to reel tape and

14:41 Speaker 14: I remember, you know, trying to. Of course I screwed

14:43 Speaker 14: it all up, but I remember trying to like shoee,

14:45 Speaker 14: and yeah it was fun.

14:47 Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, I kind of appreciate those years though,

14:50 Speaker 15: because you know, I learned my skill from sort of

14:54 Speaker 15: the prehistoric way of recording to what it is now.

14:57 Speaker 16: And yeah, well I think it's really enhanced you mixing ability,

15:01 Speaker 16: you know what I mean, Like because in those days,

15:04 Speaker 16: you know, when you go into the studio, you had

15:06 Speaker 16: to rebuild the mix.

15:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have total recall.

15:09 Speaker 16: So now everything pops up where you left it, which

15:11 Speaker 16: I love, you know what I mean. But he used

15:14 Speaker 16: to have to rebuild the mix from scratch all day.

15:16 Speaker 2: So that's really good for you.

15:17 Speaker 15: Bring up, bring up the bass, you know, so you're

15:20 Speaker 15: doing that all day long, and the modern engineers don't

15:22 Speaker 15: have to do that.

15:23 Speaker 2: Boom it's back, you know.

15:25 Speaker 14: Right yeah.

15:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the audience has changed too, you know what

15:28 Speaker 2: I mean.

15:28 Speaker 16: People have a lot more you know, like if like

15:30 Speaker 16: the nineties were kind of a golden age, right, you know,

15:34 Speaker 16: people bought eight CDs, you know, they bought CDs at

15:38 Speaker 16: your show or whatever like that. They listen to the

15:40 Speaker 16: CDs all the tracks, you know. Now it's different. People

15:43 Speaker 16: have a lot more entertainment options, you know. So music

15:48 Speaker 16: isn't king like it used to be, you know what

15:51 Speaker 16: I mean. But but I love the new format because

15:55 Speaker 16: you know, we get paid. You can get played all

15:58 Speaker 16: over the world, you know what I mean. I get

16:01 Speaker 16: royalty checks from ask Cap and Albania and things like that,

16:05 Speaker 16: you know, play we get played all over the world,

16:08 Speaker 16: you know, which is very interesting.

16:09 Speaker 15: Yeah, oh yeah, you don't have to get into the

16:11 Speaker 15: record in the six store anymore.

16:13 Speaker 16: Right right, yeah, And if you didn't sell somebody your record,

16:16 Speaker 16: they didn't have it.

16:17 Speaker 2: Now, you know, It's which I love.

16:19 Speaker 16: You know, you get played on YouTube, you get played

16:21 Speaker 16: on Spotify, which all our music get played here?

16:24 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

16:25 Speaker 14: Well also, you know, from the perspective, we were talking

16:27 Speaker 14: about this earlier because we had on our first guests

16:31 Speaker 14: were from Ireland Moonlight Eclips and you know, obviously that

16:34 Speaker 14: wouldn't have happened pre Internet, right, you know, unless they

16:37 Speaker 14: were already famous. Right, But but doing this show too,

16:40 Speaker 14: you know, we were obviously we're in Manchester, New Hampshire

16:43 Speaker 14: at this this beautiful radio station WM and H beautiful.

16:46 Speaker 14: But we have listeners all over the world and you know,

16:49 Speaker 14: we have people who listening from Ireland in the in

16:52 Speaker 14: the chat room and and uh amazing. You know, it's

16:55 Speaker 14: the ability to to connect with with people globally is

16:59 Speaker 14: is just fantastic. And music is you know, the the

17:02 Speaker 14: international language anyway, So you know, it's wonderful as far

17:07 Speaker 14: as doing something like this and and what like what

17:10 Speaker 14: are because Mike you you alluded to some somethings something's

17:15 Speaker 14: for the.

17:15 Speaker 2: Better right over all? But absolutely, well what have what have?

17:17 Speaker 14: What have we? Is there something we've lost along the

17:20 Speaker 14: way with I.

17:21 Speaker 15: Think we've lost a lot of the soul in our music,

17:24 Speaker 15: you know, because you know, and I'm not putt we

17:26 Speaker 15: use computers and samples and you know, we integrate them

17:30 Speaker 15: with real playing.

17:32 Speaker 2: But a lot of.

17:32 Speaker 15: It's it seems like soulless to me, it's too much,

17:35 Speaker 15: too mechanical. Sometimes Okay, I don't know, you know, because.

17:38 Speaker 16: Mostly you know a lot of it is pre existing tracks.

17:42 Speaker 16: You know, people are dragging and dropping. Yeah, and the

17:44 Speaker 16: level of musicianship is different. Right, If you're dragging in

17:47 Speaker 16: all your track your tracks and dropping them and then

17:50 Speaker 16: singing something over it, it's not the same thing as

17:53 Speaker 16: people sitting over a piano or over a guitar, bent

17:56 Speaker 16: over there for years learning how to play.

17:59 Speaker 2: And all that music. It's going through them, through their heart,

18:01 Speaker 2: their soul, their their mind.

18:03 Speaker 14: Yeah.

18:04 Speaker 16: If you drag and drop stuff, you drag it, you

18:06 Speaker 16: you and then sing over it, it's not it's not

18:09 Speaker 16: going through you, and it's not a development.

18:11 Speaker 2: And of course AI is going to push that narrative

18:14 Speaker 2: even more.

18:15 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, you know it already. Yeah, it already is

18:18 Speaker 14: absolutely souno dot com. We've used that on the show.

18:22 Speaker 2: It's incredible.

18:23 Speaker 13: It is.

18:24 Speaker 2: The recording sounds amazing.

18:25 Speaker 15: I know they're formulaic because it's machine learning, but yeah,

18:29 Speaker 15: you know, if you ask it to do a country song,

18:31 Speaker 15: it sounds like modern country.

18:33 Speaker 14: It does.

18:33 Speaker 2: It's incredible.

18:34 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, we tried it on. Uh,

18:37 Speaker 14: we did kind of a live demonstration of it on

18:39 Speaker 14: the show, because we talk about that a lot of

18:40 Speaker 14: on the show AI and the effect of it on

18:42 Speaker 14: the music industry, and so we Uh, it was something

18:46 Speaker 14: I'd kind of had in my back pocket for for

18:48 Speaker 14: a long time. An idea. You know, sometime when we

18:50 Speaker 14: have a segment, maybe a guest cancels or something. You know,

18:53 Speaker 14: there's always things going on in the music industry, so

18:55 Speaker 14: there's always things to talk about. So I was like,

18:56 Speaker 14: you know, let's let's try uh, let's try this. We'll

18:58 Speaker 14: make a song using SUNO and just see what happens.

19:01 Speaker 2: Its kind of fun lyrics for it.

19:03 Speaker 1: Oh.

19:03 Speaker 14: We Well, what we did was, you know, we just

19:05 Speaker 14: put in a bunch of prompts, you know, and and

19:07 Speaker 14: see what it spits out right. And Jenny and I

19:10 Speaker 14: both you know, we we uh just sat here kind

19:12 Speaker 14: of gobsmacked, like, wow, this is even better than we

19:17 Speaker 14: would have expected.

19:18 Speaker 2: Yeah.

19:19 Speaker 16: No, I feel like, I mean, it's John Henry's style

19:21 Speaker 16: battle with A. I you know, call what I use RI. I. Yeah,

19:26 Speaker 16: we used a lot of A on my studio though.

19:28 Speaker 15: You know, it's incredible tools to like check tonal balance

19:32 Speaker 15: on or you know, you know, remove noise or anything

19:36 Speaker 15: like that. It's great tools for it, you know.

19:38 Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, but absolutely yeah. And I assume so everything

19:42 Speaker 14: you guys have done is recorded there, I assume, right.

19:44 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, creative my studio, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

19:48 Speaker 14: It sounds it sounds fantastic. Oh thanks, where's your studio? It'shers?

19:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's it called Clock Creative, Clark Creative.

19:57 Speaker 15: Yeah, and I've been there. I'm celebrating my fortieth niversary.

20:00 Speaker 2: Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

20:03 Speaker 15: Could argue be the longest running commercial studio in New England.

20:07 Speaker 15: I don't know, it's a long time.

20:10 Speaker 14: You know what's interesting about that is.

20:14 Speaker 1: People.

20:15 Speaker 14: One of the things I find that's interesting about getting

20:19 Speaker 14: older is just seeing like what technologies change, what technologies

20:23 Speaker 14: go away, what technologies stick around, but also sometimes what

20:28 Speaker 14: people thought was going to change but doesn't change. And

20:32 Speaker 14: one of the things that has not changed as much

20:36 Speaker 14: is recording in terms of there's still a lot of

20:39 Speaker 14: really good recording studios around. Like you're obviously still thriving.

20:43 Speaker 14: You're celebrating forty years at Clark Creating.

20:45 Speaker 2: Yeah.

20:46 Speaker 14: And the reason I bring that up is because you know,

20:48 Speaker 14: that's one of the things people predicted with the advent

20:51 Speaker 14: of home recording and then all the technology that we have.

20:54 Speaker 15: Now see a lot of bands integrate that with me though,

20:58 Speaker 15: like the band you're having on next Yeah, they'll come

21:00 Speaker 15: in and do their drum tracks with me or their

21:04 Speaker 15: rhythm section. They'll take it home, bring the files home

21:07 Speaker 15: and do all the close micing stuff like the vocals

21:09 Speaker 15: guitars because a lot of people use modeling now for guitars. Yeah,

21:14 Speaker 15: and then they bring back to me for mixing. So

21:16 Speaker 15: you know, you know, you can run away from it,

21:19 Speaker 15: but you have to learn how to integrate that into

21:22 Speaker 15: your business.

21:23 Speaker 14: Right right. Yeah. Yeah, So in your experience over the

21:26 Speaker 14: past forty well in more recent years with all this technology,

21:30 Speaker 14: are you still as busy as ever?

21:31 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wonderful.

21:34 Speaker 15: And I do some commercial stuff too, like I do

21:35 Speaker 15: all the podcasts for Business New Hampshire magazine. Yeah, and

21:40 Speaker 15: I work for this big company called the Pilot Workshops,

21:42 Speaker 15: the pay site for pilots.

21:44 Speaker 2: They teach them how to not crash their plan.

21:46 Speaker 14: Oh no, kidding.

21:48 Speaker 15: So you know I do some of that stuff too,

21:49 Speaker 15: which I enjoy. Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, super busy.

21:54 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah.

21:54 Speaker 16: Well, and I think like the home recording is a

21:58 Speaker 16: bit of a trap for musicians too, because you get

22:01 Speaker 16: bogged down in the in the engineering, right, so you know,

22:07 Speaker 16: and it takes away from the creative process you're you know,

22:10 Speaker 16: you're you're not focusing on your song and your performance.

22:12 Speaker 16: You're don't you gets compressive impressors, reverbs, eques, you know.

22:17 Speaker 16: So I recommend to songwriters to get your eyes ideas

22:21 Speaker 16: down right and get a sketch of it and then

22:24 Speaker 16: take it to the studio and do it in the studio, right,

22:28 Speaker 16: you know what I mean, and use the tools that

22:31 Speaker 16: you have with the home recording, but don't get bogged

22:33 Speaker 16: down at like so many people just get hung up

22:36 Speaker 16: on the technicalities, and you know, you need an engineer

22:39 Speaker 16: to engineer that, you know.

22:40 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Also a lot of times too, uh, you know,

22:44 Speaker 14: someone an engineer might become a producer, a de facto producer, right,

22:49 Speaker 14: you know you.

22:50 Speaker 2: Kind of have to wear both those hats at the

22:52 Speaker 2: level where you work at. Yeah, you know.

22:53 Speaker 15: Yeah, very few bands can afford a producer or even

22:57 Speaker 15: trust a producer with their music. You have to trust

23:00 Speaker 15: the guy that's making the decisions on your tracks, which

23:03 Speaker 15: is a lot of times bands don't want to relinquish

23:06 Speaker 15: that control, of course I get that, Yeah, but you know,

23:10 Speaker 15: once you get a rapport with the artists, they trust

23:13 Speaker 15: you to kind of put your two cents in on

23:16 Speaker 15: you know, the arrangements or whatnot.

23:17 Speaker 14: Of course.

23:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who is it that we have on next week?

23:20 Speaker 14: Who's recording with you?

23:21 Speaker 3: Now?

23:22 Speaker 2: What do they call Parental Eye or something?

23:24 Speaker 15: It's Jake Young? Oh, yes, yes, I always can't remember

23:27 Speaker 15: the name of their band. I can't pronounce the first.

23:29 Speaker 14: Well, that's the thing. Yeah, I think. I think even

23:31 Speaker 14: when he was here, he he even said, uh yeah,

23:33 Speaker 14: because he was here and the Youngs and even said, yeah, no,

23:36 Speaker 14: one can pronounce the name of this other project.

23:38 Speaker 2: I can't do it. We did Aquatang. Don't do it, guys,

23:43 Speaker 2: pretty easy.

23:45 Speaker 14: I'm curious about Aquatinang. So you were were you were

23:49 Speaker 14: signed to a major?

23:51 Speaker 2: We were.

23:52 Speaker 16: We were at Sony in Manhattan. We never actually got signed.

23:56 Speaker 16: We were brought in there as like a spec project.

23:58 Speaker 16: Oh really okay, and we worked.

24:00 Speaker 2: It was great.

24:01 Speaker 16: I mean we were down in Sony in the nineties.

24:03 Speaker 16: It was amazing the music going on, you know, like, yeah,

24:05 Speaker 16: one of the times we were there, we were doing

24:08 Speaker 16: a session and the engineer came in and said, we

24:12 Speaker 16: all have to get out of here because Michael's here.

24:14 Speaker 15: And I said, Michael, who it wasn't me my reason

24:18 Speaker 15: to leave? And they said Michael Jackson. And so Michael

24:22 Speaker 15: Jackson came in with like his twenty twenty people strong

24:27 Speaker 15: code really yeah yeah, and they just he wanted everyone

24:31 Speaker 15: else out the boots. So yeah, yeah, thanks Michael.

24:34 Speaker 14: Oh that's fine.

24:34 Speaker 2: I'm alive and you're not.

24:36 Speaker 14: That's well, that's true.

24:39 Speaker 2: No, but but that's it was. It was amazing. Yeah,

24:44 Speaker 2: it was amazing and.

24:45 Speaker 16: But but but Mike's Mike's a better engineer than anybody

24:49 Speaker 16: down in Sony though.

24:50 Speaker 2: That's for sure. Here you go. Wow, yeah, yeah, I

24:53 Speaker 2: don't want to borrow money or something, Yes, I do.

24:55 Speaker 2: I don't have any I guess that was pretty sure.

24:57 Speaker 14: Parents, Well, he won't be b borrowing any money from

25:01 Speaker 14: Michael Jackson's estate, so, you know, apparently, so you know, I.

25:06 Speaker 2: Mean Ozzie was down there. I peed next to jay Z,

25:10 Speaker 2: Jay next to jay Z. Yeah.

25:12 Speaker 3: Oh wow.

25:13 Speaker 2: That's the one thing.

25:13 Speaker 15: It wasn't r Kelly. It might be a different, yeah scenario,

25:17 Speaker 15: Jasey didn't pay.

25:18 Speaker 14: No kidding me. Well, actually some of the allegations against

25:21 Speaker 14: jay Z, now that that might you know crazy, Yeah, yeah,

25:24 Speaker 14: that could have been risky.

25:27 Speaker 2: You know, he had no interest in me.

25:29 Speaker 14: Apparently, I hope none of that's true because ninety nine

25:33 Speaker 14: Problems is like my favorite hip hop song of all time. Yeah,

25:36 Speaker 14: I hope none of that's true.

25:37 Speaker 2: He's still considered the best hip hop artists.

25:41 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I love jay Z, so I hope none

25:43 Speaker 14: of that sounds true. Yeah, but oh boy, we should

25:48 Speaker 14: play another track. What do you guys, I'll let you pick.

25:50 Speaker 14: I mean, what would you guys like to h to

25:53 Speaker 14: feature next of the songs that he's one?

25:55 Speaker 2: Sure, it's kind of interesting. There's some horns in it.

25:58 Speaker 14: Oh, she's the one.

25:59 Speaker 3: Yeah?

25:59 Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, now who's who's playing the horns on this?

26:03 Speaker 1: Me?

26:04 Speaker 2: Yeah? We did on keyboard. Yeah. I used to use

26:06 Speaker 2: this program called Arcade. It's really cool.

26:08 Speaker 15: Like it's a California company, And what they do is

26:11 Speaker 15: they give you phrases of an instrument, so you kind

26:14 Speaker 15: of play it yourself, so you pick what you want

26:17 Speaker 15: to use out of the phrase.

26:18 Speaker 2: You develop it that way.

26:19 Speaker 15: It's not a loop, so it's there's still some human

26:22 Speaker 15: interaction with the program.

26:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool, it's cool. Yeah, these are what do

26:26 Speaker 2: you call them?

26:27 Speaker 15: Probably township township horns, yeah, because it's kind of reggae soundings. Okay, cool, Yeah,

26:32 Speaker 15: they're slightly detuned, you know what I mean?

26:34 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Let's give this a

26:36 Speaker 14: spand this is She's the one, and this is the

26:39 Speaker 14: Murphy Clark Band.

26:46 Speaker 18: She's the kind of lady you don't want to awake

27:06 Speaker 18: her while she's sleep, A certain kind of someone you

27:14 Speaker 18: can tell her about the.

27:17 Speaker 19: Company she keep me. Beauty is the goodness of you

27:25 Speaker 19: one and loves awake.

27:27 Speaker 11: Goodness is the beauty one.

27:31 Speaker 3: That lights away.

27:32 Speaker 20: Oh oh, styles the agent for.

27:40 Speaker 1: The wild, and it's been a work.

27:49 Speaker 3: She's the one, a certain.

27:56 Speaker 11: Kind of flower that God himself has shielded with his hands,

28:05 Speaker 11: and out of the ashes of a fire.

28:09 Speaker 20: Comes up stronger one to stand. And Beauty is the

28:17 Speaker 20: goodness of you one.

28:20 Speaker 3: Love wi. Goodness is the beauty.

28:24 Speaker 11: One A light way, a race, a style, easy.

28:34 Speaker 1: For one, and it's been working. She's the one.

28:48 Speaker 3: She's won till the night, till he break it down.

29:05 Speaker 11: I see her like shinun, I see her life.

29:20 Speaker 3: Show.

29:34 Speaker 7: She's she's young.

29:42 Speaker 6: She's the can you lady do.

29:46 Speaker 3: To wake up?

29:49 Speaker 1: Why?

29:57 Speaker 3: Why?

29:58 Speaker 7: She's said, hmmm.

30:17 Speaker 2: I love that.

30:18 Speaker 14: That's a nice sound.

30:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian wrote that for Sydney Sweeney.

30:21 Speaker 14: I really like that.

30:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know who Sydney.

30:26 Speaker 14: I was gonna I was gonna say, who's Sidney sweeeney?

30:28 Speaker 2: What you guys don't get out much, do you.

30:32 Speaker 8: I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.

30:33 Speaker 14: I feel like I should know. I was gonna say,

30:37 Speaker 14: I feel like I should know the reference Murphy Clark

30:41 Speaker 14: band here and uh here in studio with us Brian

30:43 Speaker 14: Murphy and Mike Clark. You know what I like about that?

30:46 Speaker 2: In the mix?

30:46 Speaker 14: I like the way the horns are are present, but

30:52 Speaker 14: they're not like sometimes when you hear horns they're.

30:56 Speaker 2: Loud, you know what I mean?

30:58 Speaker 14: And though and and I like the where the horns

31:01 Speaker 14: sit in the mix.

31:02 Speaker 15: Well, well, definitely a vocal band, so everything kind of

31:05 Speaker 15: like goes under the vocals.

31:07 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, but it's a hook I mean yeah,

31:10 Speaker 2: it's a hook onto itself.

31:11 Speaker 3: Yeah.

31:12 Speaker 2: No, I like it.

31:12 Speaker 14: It has a lot of texture. Yeah, and the vocals too,

31:15 Speaker 14: aren't super loud either. It's interesting. But I really like

31:19 Speaker 14: the mix. Thanks, Yeah, absolutely absolutely that.

31:22 Speaker 16: I think that's one of his strong suits Mike, is

31:25 Speaker 16: his mixing ability. Okay, you know, I think that's really like,

31:28 Speaker 16: definitely that's what attracted to me in the beginning.

31:31 Speaker 2: Of Dashing good look and the hair, Yeah, the hair.

31:35 Speaker 8: And he said, you're a vocal teacher, right, yes I am.

31:38 Speaker 2: Yeah.

31:38 Speaker 8: So do you ever get students that just want to

31:40 Speaker 8: sing karaoke without killing any animals?

31:42 Speaker 3: Yeah?

31:43 Speaker 16: I do get I get the karaoke contingent, no doubt,

31:46 Speaker 16: you know what I mean? Yeah, but yeah, and that's

31:49 Speaker 16: the beauty of it. I have singers across the spectrum,

31:51 Speaker 16: you know, I really love doing that.

31:53 Speaker 2: I love doing that.

31:54 Speaker 14: Do you do you ever This might be a strange question,

31:57 Speaker 14: but do you ever have to kind of turn away

31:59 Speaker 14: anybody like, like, do you ever have you ever had

32:01 Speaker 14: a student who you just kind of feel like how

32:05 Speaker 14: they're not going to get this?

32:07 Speaker 2: Well?

32:08 Speaker 16: Typically not, because you know, everyone can get better as

32:13 Speaker 16: long as they're not, you know, tone deaf.

32:15 Speaker 2: Right.

32:16 Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a difference between being tone deaf and being

32:19 Speaker 16: pitched deficient.

32:20 Speaker 1: Right.

32:20 Speaker 16: Pitch deficiency can be you can train somebody to get

32:24 Speaker 16: their pitches correct. If somebody's actually tone deaf, they don't

32:28 Speaker 16: really like music anyway, right, So I don't get those

32:31 Speaker 16: kind of people because they don't enjoy music. Okay, So,

32:34 Speaker 16: and I do get people from time to time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

32:37 Speaker 16: there's there's a difference. And I do get people, you know,

32:41 Speaker 16: from time to time that say, you know, after we

32:44 Speaker 16: do a couple of lessons, they say, what do you think,

32:46 Speaker 16: And I'll tell them, I'll say, you know, if they're

32:48 Speaker 16: pitch deficient, I'll say, you will be able to sing,

32:51 Speaker 16: but it's going to be a lot of work. If

32:53 Speaker 16: you want to do the work, we can get it done,

32:55 Speaker 16: you know what I mean. And they're never going to

32:56 Speaker 16: be your great singers, right, but you can be good

32:59 Speaker 16: enough to sing in your church band, or sing backups

33:02 Speaker 16: in your band, or do the occasional lead vocal in

33:05 Speaker 16: your group. But you know, great singers though, usually come

33:09 Speaker 16: to me singing already.

33:11 Speaker 14: Okay, interesting yeah, yeah. Part of why that's so interesting

33:15 Speaker 14: to me is so I went through a few different

33:17 Speaker 14: vocal teachers, uh along the way. And you might even

33:21 Speaker 14: know I'm rolling Belile. Is that a familiar recognized because

33:25 Speaker 14: you have He was the owner of Bellile Music here

33:27 Speaker 14: in Manchester. Yeah, and I went I went to him

33:32 Speaker 14: and a couple other people over the years, and I

33:34 Speaker 14: you know, it's it's an odd thing with me. I'm

33:37 Speaker 14: actually not a bad harmony singer, I can kind of

33:39 Speaker 14: lock in and find the octave and whatnot. But on

33:42 Speaker 14: my own I get lost.

33:44 Speaker 2: You play in the band, yeah, I've.

33:46 Speaker 14: Not currently, but I'm a musician, you know. I play

33:48 Speaker 14: bass and a little bit of guitar, and I'm certainly

33:51 Speaker 14: do this.

33:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

33:54 Speaker 2: It Yeah, if you love music, you're not tone deaf.

33:57 Speaker 2: Okay what I mean. But pitch deficiency is the lord

33:59 Speaker 2: and thing.

34:01 Speaker 14: Know you're you're a better singer.

34:05 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, if you if you enjoy music, you can

34:09 Speaker 16: do it. And it's just because typically that's a coordination issue, right,

34:13 Speaker 16: It's because what you're hearing in your you know, head

34:17 Speaker 16: is not coordinating up with your your voice. Yeah right,

34:20 Speaker 16: you know what I mean. So that can be trained in.

34:22 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean. That's that's the fundamental

34:26 Speaker 2: difference there.

34:27 Speaker 14: Okay, just hope for me yet.

34:29 Speaker 8: Yeah, Grandma says I killed cats.

34:32 Speaker 14: Oh, Jenny is a better singer than she thinks she is.

34:34 Speaker 14: But but so but so tone deafness though, So that's real.

34:40 Speaker 14: That's a real thing, because that's the other thing I

34:42 Speaker 14: was curious about.

34:42 Speaker 16: And you meet people like that from time to time,

34:44 Speaker 16: Like I used to fish with a guy. He didn't

34:46 Speaker 16: care what radio station was on. You're getting this truck,

34:49 Speaker 16: and what the hell are you listening to? He said,

34:50 Speaker 16: It's all the same to me. It's just noise.

34:53 Speaker 8: That's that's surprising to me. I would have never thought that.

34:56 Speaker 8: I mean, I thought that I could be tone deaf,

34:58 Speaker 8: because I you know what I mean. But I never

35:01 Speaker 8: thought that people who are tone deaf are generally not

35:04 Speaker 8: happy about music.

35:05 Speaker 16: Yeah, they just don't like it because they don't hear

35:08 Speaker 16: them melodic difference, So it's just irritating.

35:11 Speaker 2: That's interesting. You don't hear melody, it's just noise.

35:14 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, because I've heard people say, yeah, I

35:17 Speaker 14: don't really like music, and it's but rarely have I

35:19 Speaker 14: heard anyone say that. And then when I when someone

35:21 Speaker 14: does say that, it's like, you know, I've always assumed

35:23 Speaker 14: there's something neurologically wrong with them, because who doesn't like music?

35:27 Speaker 14: It seems so strange.

35:29 Speaker 8: You're kind of right, because if somebody's tone deaf, that

35:31 Speaker 8: is right.

35:33 Speaker 2: It would probably annoy them rather than entertain them.

35:36 Speaker 14: That's interesting an estimate of how many people like that

35:38 Speaker 14: are in the world, or because I would assume that's

35:40 Speaker 14: extremely rare, right, it's.

35:42 Speaker 2: Got to be. I've never done any research. Yeah, you know,

35:44 Speaker 2: I just know that.

35:45 Speaker 14: I'm just curious, you know that I'm thinking about it.

35:47 Speaker 16: But most of the time, those you know, those people

35:50 Speaker 16: don't come for voice lessons because they don't care about it, right,

35:52 Speaker 16: they wouldn't be the people that are pitched efficient. And

35:56 Speaker 16: a lot of people say the same thing as you've said,

35:58 Speaker 16: is I can sing harmony, I can sing with others.

36:01 Speaker 16: They can sing in a choir. But when they're but

36:03 Speaker 16: trained in okay, you know, through exercises and you know,

36:06 Speaker 16: like dedication, you know, yeah, you have to work out.

36:09 Speaker 2: I still won't give me a microphone. No you don't

36:12 Speaker 2: sink mike, No, No, only in the shower.

36:14 Speaker 14: Okay.

36:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I get an audience to come in

36:17 Speaker 2: with me.

36:17 Speaker 8: But a shower cooking for me. But you are correct,

36:22 Speaker 8: it is a very low number. Back in twenty seventeen,

36:24 Speaker 8: they did a study estimating that between one point five

36:27 Speaker 8: percent to up to four percent of people have tone deafness,

36:31 Speaker 8: also known as a musia M A M S.

36:35 Speaker 2: I go, Brice. I don't think it should be funny.

36:38 Speaker 2: I got a musia. Yeah, I took penestill and mind

36:41 Speaker 2: cleared up. Okay, you're shut his microphone. I'll take it

36:47 Speaker 2: from here.

36:48 Speaker 8: It is a it can be congenital, in which case

36:52 Speaker 8: it can be more severe, which is rarer than people

36:56 Speaker 8: in general who are tone deaf, which is that one

36:58 Speaker 8: to four percent. So it is very a very low

37:01 Speaker 8: percentage of the population.

37:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, interestingly. Yeah, so it's not the people we thought

37:05 Speaker 2: it was.

37:06 Speaker 8: But it's not the people I would have thought it was.

37:08 Speaker 8: I would have thought that. It's like I didn't I

37:10 Speaker 8: can't hit that. No, so I'm tone deaf because I

37:12 Speaker 8: can't hit right.

37:13 Speaker 16: That's what I thought that it meant, and a lot

37:16 Speaker 16: of times too, like you can go in somebody's vocal

37:18 Speaker 16: range and you can find out right that place in

37:22 Speaker 16: their voice, you know, especially the upper bridge of someone's

37:25 Speaker 16: voice where the coordination's going flat a little bit. I'll

37:28 Speaker 16: know exactly what to do.

37:30 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean.

37:31 Speaker 16: You know exactly the range to work, and you know

37:33 Speaker 16: where the coordination issue is.

37:35 Speaker 14: Yeah. I remember Roland doing that with me and trying

37:38 Speaker 14: to figure out where my range was.

37:40 Speaker 8: No wonder you guys have beautiful harmonies.

37:42 Speaker 16: Oh thanks you gorgeous. Marion and Cindy have always been

37:46 Speaker 16: like that. They sing together just beautifully. They have a

37:51 Speaker 16: real super chemistry.

37:53 Speaker 8: It sounds like they're related, you know what I mean.

37:55 Speaker 8: How related people can really get that crazy harmony.

38:00 Speaker 2: Together for thirty five years or whatever it is. Yeah,

38:04 Speaker 2: well yeah, yeah, but.

38:05 Speaker 16: I can remember one time I was at a bluegrass

38:08 Speaker 16: festival in Texas, uh, you know, in the eighties, and

38:11 Speaker 16: Marian and Cindy were there with me, and they had

38:14 Speaker 16: they weren't really singing yet, you know what I mean.

38:16 Speaker 16: So I was with my banjo player and we were

38:18 Speaker 16: out going and playing with everybody, and I come back

38:21 Speaker 16: and there's this beautiful singing going on in the tent.

38:23 Speaker 16: I'm like, what the hell is going on in there?

38:25 Speaker 16: I open it up and it's Cindy and Marion and

38:28 Speaker 16: Marian's on guitar and they're harmonize. Like Chris, I said,

38:30 Speaker 16: I didn't know you guys could harmonize like that. They go,

38:32 Speaker 16: oh yeah, So that's where it began, you know, like

38:35 Speaker 16: I kind of realized, like, what the hell you know, yeah,

38:38 Speaker 16: I accident, yeah yeah yeah.

38:40 Speaker 2: And they just right from the beginning had had a

38:43 Speaker 2: kind of a chemistry.

38:44 Speaker 3: Yeah.

38:44 Speaker 14: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool.

38:48 Speaker 5: Is Uh.

38:48 Speaker 14: Now, some of the early music that you guys did,

38:50 Speaker 14: is that all available because you said you've got one

38:53 Speaker 14: hundred and fifty published, Yes.

38:54 Speaker 2: All of it.

38:54 Speaker 16: The Awkwatanang stuff is still it still gets spun all

38:58 Speaker 16: all the time, you know, the stuff about that like

39:01 Speaker 16: she Reigns particularly and fragile As and Nail the Aquatanang Ones,

39:04 Speaker 16: those two in particular, where they're sort of the band

39:08 Speaker 16: at the height of their powers. Okay, And it sounds

39:11 Speaker 16: like the nineties. I mean like I put that on

39:13 Speaker 16: and I just think, oh, yeah, here we are back

39:14 Speaker 16: there again, you know, kidding it's interesting.

39:17 Speaker 14: I'll have to check some of that out later. I'm curious. Yeah,

39:19 Speaker 14: I'll do a deep dive.

39:21 Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, yeah, And uh we've been working together, like

39:24 Speaker 16: I said, ever since then. So yeah, you know, it's

39:26 Speaker 16: a it's a real Uh. I think it's historic. I

39:29 Speaker 16: think New Hampshire musical history, our collaboration over the years,

39:34 Speaker 16: you know, even though you know not a lot of

39:35 Speaker 16: people know about it.

39:36 Speaker 14: I think, well, it must be kind of intuitive, right,

39:38 Speaker 14: especially at this point.

39:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably is effortless. The work, the workflows very nice.

39:43 Speaker 16: Yeah, Like now I'll write a couple of songs or

39:46 Speaker 16: when we're ready for a new song, he'll he'll just say,

39:49 Speaker 16: what have you got, yeah, and I'll just I'll get

39:51 Speaker 16: out my guitar and I'll play through a few things

39:52 Speaker 16: and he'll say that one yeah, and then and then

39:55 Speaker 16: we start to arrange it.

39:56 Speaker 1: Uh.

39:56 Speaker 2: You know, Mike's very good with the arrangement.

39:58 Speaker 16: And it's really nice for a songwriter and a singer

40:02 Speaker 16: to have like what I call ears on the outside,

40:04 Speaker 16: you know, and if somebody that listens to your music

40:06 Speaker 16: and says.

40:07 Speaker 2: I like this, I don't like that, you know.

40:09 Speaker 16: I need to trust him with it, though, and he

40:11 Speaker 16: can be honest with me and say, you know, you're

40:12 Speaker 16: you're pushing too hard here, or you're biting down on that,

40:15 Speaker 16: or you know, things like that that would normally hurt

40:17 Speaker 16: your feelings, and I'll just you know.

40:18 Speaker 3: Right right.

40:20 Speaker 16: But but it's really you know, for somebody, you know,

40:24 Speaker 16: and so he'll pick generally, you know, I'll run through

40:26 Speaker 16: a couple like, uh, go on, go ahead and break.

40:30 Speaker 16: I wrote this past Valentine's Steak because I was down

40:33 Speaker 16: with influenza a I believe, and I was out for it,

40:36 Speaker 16: you know, And that the week I was out, I

40:38 Speaker 16: wrote three songs that week, which is great, and and

40:40 Speaker 16: go Ahead and Break was the last one of the three, okay,

40:43 Speaker 16: And so he says, what have you got? So I

40:45 Speaker 16: started playing that when he goes, that's the one. Let's

40:47 Speaker 16: do that one, you know, so he and then you know,

40:49 Speaker 16: then the band gets together, we start to arrange it.

40:52 Speaker 16: You know, Jeff Harrington, the drummer, had some nice arrangement

40:55 Speaker 16: ideas for for go Ahead and Break and so you

40:58 Speaker 16: know we sort of do that as a band, and yeah,

41:00 Speaker 16: and arrange it.

41:01 Speaker 2: And and for a songwriter too.

41:03 Speaker 16: Had to have a team that you can work with,

41:06 Speaker 16: like Cindy and Marion are great, like we like this.

41:09 Speaker 16: We don't like that, you know, for everybody to chip in,

41:12 Speaker 16: for every talented person, it helps you with your composition.

41:16 Speaker 16: The composition gets ratcheted up.

41:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

41:19 Speaker 16: So it's it's really like it's a dream come true

41:22 Speaker 16: to have a team to work with you on the songs,

41:25 Speaker 16: you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah, and contribute

41:28 Speaker 16: to their considerable talent, you know.

41:30 Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, you guys want to play another one?

41:33 Speaker 14: We should? We should play another one. These are so good.

41:36 Speaker 14: What do you guys want to let highway?

41:37 Speaker 3: Yeah?

41:37 Speaker 2: Hello, Highway, Hello Highway, this is a song about your travels. Yeah.

41:42 Speaker 16: Yeah, we were doing some care I wrote that stuck

41:46 Speaker 16: in traffic and uh in New Jersey.

41:50 Speaker 2: No, No, Worcester. I was going through Worcester.

41:52 Speaker 16: Because my father lived in North Carolina and going down

41:55 Speaker 16: the stretch he was dying to Parkinson's. We would do

41:59 Speaker 16: caregiving and everybody in the family would get down there

42:01 Speaker 16: for a couple of weeks. We were doing a lot

42:03 Speaker 16: of highway time. Yeah, And so one particular time, my

42:06 Speaker 16: sister said called me and said we got to get

42:08 Speaker 16: down there. So as I was going down driving through Worcester,

42:10 Speaker 16: I was like, Hello Highway.

42:12 Speaker 14: Yeah, I like that.

42:13 Speaker 16: So the next twenty four hours of driving I wrote

42:15 Speaker 16: the rest of the song in my mind. Yeah, and

42:18 Speaker 16: then when I got back to town, I wrote it down,

42:20 Speaker 16: you know. But that's how that one came about.

42:21 Speaker 14: Okay, all right, yeah, let's give this a spand this

42:24 Speaker 14: is Hello Highway, and this is the Murphy Clark band.

42:44 Speaker 1: Hello Highway.

42:47 Speaker 2: Remember me.

42:51 Speaker 1: And the one that I used to be.

42:58 Speaker 3: Hello? How way? Can you take me home.

43:06 Speaker 17: To a place?

43:07 Speaker 1: He said, I never.

43:09 Speaker 6: Really know, never really know, never really know.

43:18 Speaker 3: Can you take me home? Hello Highway?

43:30 Speaker 7: I'm away.

43:40 Speaker 3: Hello Highway.

43:44 Speaker 1: What's that you say?

43:48 Speaker 3: Can you take me back to a better day? I

43:56 Speaker 3: well right and packing.

43:59 Speaker 1: Strong to get up off the floor didn't take so long.

44:07 Speaker 3: It didn't take so long.

44:10 Speaker 6: I didn't take so long.

44:14 Speaker 1: To get up for food, Hello Highway.

44:26 Speaker 6: I don't need a place to call my own.

44:37 Speaker 3: I don't need a phase to king. I just need

44:41 Speaker 3: a place to lay it down where I can get

44:46 Speaker 3: some sweep. I don't need a place on my own.

44:51 Speaker 3: I don't need the place to me. I just need

44:57 Speaker 3: place to thing be down where I I can get

45:00 Speaker 3: some sleep.

45:03 Speaker 7: I can get some sleep.

45:06 Speaker 6: High sleep.

45:14 Speaker 4: Wait, Hello Highway.

45:42 Speaker 3: Time to go.

45:46 Speaker 1: No, he'll need to remind me that you told me so.

45:51 Speaker 3: You told me so. Yeah, you told me so. No

45:58 Speaker 3: need to remind.

46:26 Speaker 9: Hello.

46:27 Speaker 2: Hello, mm hmmm, Hello Highway.

46:41 Speaker 14: It's kind of got lost in that one listening to that.

46:43 Speaker 14: That's really good guy.

46:44 Speaker 2: You want to go on that? Yeah? You want to

46:47 Speaker 2: go paint?

46:47 Speaker 8: I want to go paint.

46:48 Speaker 14: She likes she likes to listen to music while she paints.

46:51 Speaker 2: So cool.

46:51 Speaker 14: Yeah, she's gonna she's gonna put that on.

46:54 Speaker 16: Yeah, I'd love to love everybody. Put us on your playlist, please, Yeah,

46:58 Speaker 16: and I should say to you. We're on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, YouTube.

47:05 Speaker 16: I love my YouTube channel small though it may be, yeah,

47:08 Speaker 16: but you know, we're on all the major platforms.

47:11 Speaker 2: The music is just some crazy videos on YouTube, are there? Yeah?

47:14 Speaker 15: I get all the video duties. Yeah, I'm not a

47:17 Speaker 15: huge fan, but it's kind of fun. Video is a

47:20 Speaker 15: lot of work, and I'm clunky on it because I'm

47:22 Speaker 15: an audio guy. Sure, sure, it's you know, fun to

47:26 Speaker 15: do videos.

47:26 Speaker 2: Yeah.

47:27 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a powerful song though.

47:28 Speaker 2: Oh thanks, so good. That is so good.

47:32 Speaker 14: If you are just joining us. We've got Brian Murphy

47:34 Speaker 14: and Mike Clark from the Murphy Clark Band here with

47:37 Speaker 14: us in studio and we've been talking a lot and

47:40 Speaker 14: playing some tunes and uh, just just really great. Is

47:44 Speaker 14: is that one of the more recent ones? Or or

47:46 Speaker 14: is that is that one been out for a while?

47:48 Speaker 2: I think it's eight months maybe, Okay.

47:51 Speaker 16: We try to get a song done every two months, okay,

47:54 Speaker 16: and we've been relatively successful with that. That includes you know,

47:58 Speaker 16: the writing, the arranging and then the production of it,

48:01 Speaker 16: and you know, we try to get get two months

48:04 Speaker 16: of ourselves, you know. So yeah, that one's probably about

48:09 Speaker 16: four songs back, I would say eight months or six

48:12 Speaker 16: months or something like that.

48:14 Speaker 14: And so that's kind of the schedule. So is there

48:17 Speaker 14: is there an album that these are going to coalesce

48:19 Speaker 14: into or are you just going to keep doing singles?

48:20 Speaker 2: We don't do. I don't we don't feel like the

48:24 Speaker 2: lost platform.

48:25 Speaker 3: Yeah.

48:26 Speaker 16: I think it's very difficult to get people to listen

48:29 Speaker 16: to a CD anyway, you know, because people have so much,

48:31 Speaker 16: so many entertainment options, I feel like. And another thing too,

48:36 Speaker 16: is when you release a single, you know, you get

48:39 Speaker 16: a bump on all the platforms. So if you're on Spotify,

48:42 Speaker 16: your Apple Music or whatever, you get a little you know,

48:46 Speaker 16: especially if you're a verified artist, you get a bump,

48:50 Speaker 16: so they promote that single for the first week or

48:53 Speaker 16: so like that. So if you release a CD, your

48:56 Speaker 16: CD gets that pump. But if you release a single,

48:59 Speaker 16: you get a bump every time you do the single.

49:02 Speaker 16: So it's just kind of more advantageous. And another thing

49:05 Speaker 16: I like about it, Matt, is it allows the artists

49:09 Speaker 16: to work in what I call the honeymoon period with

49:11 Speaker 16: the song, right, So when you have a new song,

49:14 Speaker 16: everybody's excited about it, everybody's get you know, gives it,

49:17 Speaker 16: they're all. But if you do a CD project and

49:19 Speaker 16: you get hung up, the next thing, you know, everything

49:22 Speaker 16: starts to kind of slow down.

49:24 Speaker 15: You tend to rush through things if you'd you know, oh,

49:26 Speaker 15: we got to finish this because we have ten other

49:28 Speaker 15: songs we have to complete, you.

49:31 Speaker 2: Know, and then you might slide or you know.

49:33 Speaker 16: Then you cannot work on a song for four months

49:35 Speaker 16: and then you kind of come back to it and I,

49:37 Speaker 16: where where were we with this one?

49:39 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And you don't care about

49:40 Speaker 2: it anymore? Really?

49:41 Speaker 16: Whereas if you do a song and it's that song,

49:44 Speaker 16: you know, And I recommend this to musicians all the times,

49:46 Speaker 16: and they never listen. They always say, no, we're doing

49:49 Speaker 16: a CD, and I say, okay, fine. When it gets

49:51 Speaker 16: bogged down, give me a call.

49:52 Speaker 2: Don't tell them that bright, I lose money. When you tell.

49:55 Speaker 16: Singles you'll make the same amount of money. Just think

49:59 Speaker 16: how much money I've paid you, dude. Come on, you

50:02 Speaker 16: walk into that.

50:04 Speaker 3: Come on.

50:05 Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong.

50:06 Speaker 15: I would love people to put the needle on the

50:08 Speaker 15: record and listen to the whole record. I kind of

50:10 Speaker 15: missed that because I'm guilty of it. Like I'll listen

50:13 Speaker 15: to like the new David Gilmour record and listen to

50:16 Speaker 15: two tracks then go oh, you know, uh to the

50:20 Speaker 15: wet Sprockett has a new record out of.

50:21 Speaker 2: Whoever, you know what I mean. So, you there's so

50:24 Speaker 2: much to choose from your access.

50:27 Speaker 16: So I kind of look at it like, instead of

50:29 Speaker 16: putting out a CD, is put out a single and

50:32 Speaker 16: hope to get on some playlists, Hope people include it

50:35 Speaker 16: on their favorite playlist or whatever like that.

50:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, yeah, you stay visible to yeah exactly. Yeah,

50:41 Speaker 2: and a lot.

50:42 Speaker 16: I mean, you know, you can do a show and

50:45 Speaker 16: one person might come up and say, do you have

50:47 Speaker 16: a CD for sale? You know, and but most of

50:49 Speaker 16: the time not, you know what I mean, because people

50:52 Speaker 16: don't think of it that way.

50:53 Speaker 15: They don't put ring cars anymore, so you are Yeah,

50:56 Speaker 15: that's true, that's true.

50:58 Speaker 16: I've just kind of moved away from that, and periodically

51:01 Speaker 16: I think, oh, I should put it all together in

51:02 Speaker 16: a CD project, and then I think, you know why,

51:05 Speaker 16: yeah you know, yeah, So that's my that's my theory

51:09 Speaker 16: on it.

51:09 Speaker 2: Anyway. Yeah, Well, listening habits have changed, Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah. Change.

51:13 Speaker 16: Like I said, what I like about most of it

51:15 Speaker 16: is doing a song, putting your all into it, getting

51:19 Speaker 16: the best mix you can, and then moving on.

51:21 Speaker 2: To the next one. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean.

51:23 Speaker 2: It keeps you know, it keeps you writing, it keeps you,

51:26 Speaker 2: you know, working like that, you know. Yeah.

51:29 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's so many different ways now to release music

51:31 Speaker 14: and so many different strategies you should use, and you

51:33 Speaker 14: know that's that's all changed too. Yeah, and yeah no,

51:37 Speaker 14: it's uh, technology has just changed everything. But but yeah,

51:42 Speaker 14: but it's like you know, you kind of you do

51:44 Speaker 14: have to kind of feed the machine, feed that algorithm.

51:46 Speaker 5: You know.

51:49 Speaker 16: Really, the CD period was a very short period and

51:52 Speaker 16: musical history, right, I mean you probably remember singles where

51:56 Speaker 16: you get a forty five Yeah, you know in that

51:59 Speaker 16: you know, I mean it was one song.

52:02 Speaker 2: Side or whatever.

52:04 Speaker 14: I might I might be you look good, I might

52:07 Speaker 14: thank you, thank you, I'm moisturized, I stay hydrated. But yeah,

52:15 Speaker 14: it's some some of the artists we have on the

52:17 Speaker 14: show have kind of recommitted to physical media just because

52:22 Speaker 14: you know, sometimes if you're a fan, it's it's nice

52:24 Speaker 14: to have liner notes and things like that.

52:26 Speaker 2: But miss that yeah there with the album cover, Yeah, that's.

52:30 Speaker 14: The best, Like the Vinyl the gatefold, you know, and you.

52:33 Speaker 15: Can against mixing art mediums. You know, you have the

52:36 Speaker 15: music and you have the art that was exactly record

52:40 Speaker 15: cover exactly.

52:41 Speaker 3: Yeah.

52:41 Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, well, gentlemen, so that the time goes quickly.

52:46 Speaker 14: We will do this again in the future, though.

52:47 Speaker 2: I would love to come back.

52:48 Speaker 14: I'd love to have you guys got stories man, Yeah yeah, yeah,

52:53 Speaker 14: and especially too as you're releasing new music, because you know,

52:55 Speaker 14: you keep putting out new stuff. So yeah, so that's

52:58 Speaker 14: that's an easy excuse to get you back on. But

53:01 Speaker 14: in the meantime, we should close our segment with one

53:03 Speaker 14: more track.

53:04 Speaker 2: What would you guys like to Uh, yeah, we could

53:06 Speaker 2: do only you, only you, only you, man. Ay, this

53:09 Speaker 2: is the one that came before go on and break.

53:11 Speaker 14: It's only you, okay, anything we should know about this?

53:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one I don't remember.

53:17 Speaker 20: Uh.

53:18 Speaker 2: This is a track we revisited though, okay, yeah, because

53:22 Speaker 2: from a while ago. Okay, we did it back in

53:24 Speaker 2: the day.

53:25 Speaker 16: I don't remember the specifics are right in this one though,

53:27 Speaker 16: in particular, you know, it's.

53:29 Speaker 2: Just okay, you know I can't do in a dream? Yeah, yeah,

53:32 Speaker 2: that's poetic.

53:33 Speaker 14: Yeah, right, And before we spend this anything. What should

53:39 Speaker 14: our listeners know about how to find you guys online?

53:41 Speaker 14: What's the best place to go to keep up with everything?

53:43 Speaker 2: The Murphy Clark. We have a Facebook. I run it.

53:45 Speaker 16: So if you think I suck at Facebook, you're right.

53:48 Speaker 16: So I do this social media so you'll you'll you'll

53:52 Speaker 16: know that.

53:53 Speaker 14: Yeah.

53:53 Speaker 15: The channel, the YouTube channels great though. Yeah, there's a

53:56 Speaker 15: lot of stuff. There's live videos on there. And okay,

54:00 Speaker 15: it's Murphy Clark. Just if you tell you in Murphy Clark,

54:03 Speaker 15: it'll come up, okay, okay. And we appreciate anybody adding

54:06 Speaker 15: adding a song to their their favorite playlist or whatever.

54:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, you appreciate it. And if if somebody writes something

54:12 Speaker 2: on YouTube, we see it.

54:14 Speaker 15: Jen's gonna paint to one of the Yes, yes she is.

54:18 Speaker 15: And if anyone wants to dance naked, that's fine too.

54:21 Speaker 14: You can do that, you know, absolutely, not here, not here.

54:24 Speaker 2: We can that.

54:26 Speaker 14: The cameras are on and I don't think we're zoned

54:28 Speaker 14: for it.

54:29 Speaker 2: Yeah I should. I should have done some sit ups

54:31 Speaker 2: or something.

54:33 Speaker 16: As far it's gonna appear naked, I look pretty sure

54:37 Speaker 16: in the park if you give me a chance.

54:42 Speaker 2: Well, like I said, we will have you back, so

54:44 Speaker 2: we'll thanks for everything and thank you for your commitment. Everyone.

54:48 Speaker 2: You know, we really appreciate that, like thank you, just

54:51 Speaker 2: like Kate over it.

54:53 Speaker 16: You know the listening room. The dedication and devotion that

54:56 Speaker 16: people have is so important, you know what I mean.

54:58 Speaker 2: It means a lot to us.

55:00 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I mean no, we we love it, you know,

55:02 Speaker 14: Jenny and I love to I appreciate that absolutely, absolutely,

55:06 Speaker 14: so we will. We'll close out the segment with only

55:08 Speaker 14: You Man. That's the title of this track, Only You

55:11 Speaker 14: Oh it's just only you Okay. I was sure because

55:13 Speaker 14: it says only you Man on here, but it says

55:15 Speaker 14: only you Man mixed, so I don't know if it was.

55:16 Speaker 15: The band from my studio to name stuff what I

55:20 Speaker 15: want to name it. Yeah, that's not the name of

55:22 Speaker 15: the song, smell, it's it's just from my file.

55:26 Speaker 14: I got I gotcha, I gotcha all right. And if

55:30 Speaker 14: you are listening live on Saturday morning, Aaron Bildo is

55:33 Speaker 14: coming up next in the third hour, so stick around

55:35 Speaker 14: for that. He's going to play live. But guys, thank

55:37 Speaker 14: you again. Brian Murphy and Mike Clark from the Murphy

55:40 Speaker 14: Clark Band, and here it is only you.

55:58 Speaker 3: It's all right when your suffer, it's all right when

56:10 Speaker 3: you cry.

56:14 Speaker 7: Up.

56:14 Speaker 3: Pick you well, I'll thank.

56:16 Speaker 4: You for did you recall down and be coming down.

56:21 Speaker 6: I'll dry your.

56:25 Speaker 3: Does on man only.

56:33 Speaker 4: Man only.

56:38 Speaker 3: Like myself.

56:39 Speaker 4: I sh like myself.

56:41 Speaker 5: I shrike myself much like myself.

56:45 Speaker 3: I'll much like man. And in the night when your

56:54 Speaker 3: heart is broken, Oh god son, nest you.

57:09 Speaker 7: S seeking.

57:12 Speaker 4: Satime, I will not.

57:14 Speaker 21: Pretty suse your own only like myself, uns.

57:32 Speaker 5: Like myself, unch like myself, unsup myself.

57:37 Speaker 3: I'm much like me. It's alright when yourself.

58:09 Speaker 2: Right, when you come, so you.

58:15 Speaker 3: Ever make, you should use me for Jamie.

58:21 Speaker 21: I will not put sid's cause.

58:29 Speaker 3: Man only you, man on.

58:42 Speaker 4: Only you.

58:46 Speaker 3: Only what stack the sell.

58:52 Speaker 17: My s stack myself, myself my side much like it's

59:02 Speaker 17: us

59:05 Speaker 3: Into the