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Speaker 14: It's so good. Another world radio premiere here at WU m n H ninety five point three FM on Matt Connorton Unleashed. That is go ahead and break. That is the Murphy Clark Band. Guys, Okay, right out of the gate. What's the correct way to say?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 14: Do I say Murphy Clark or is it the Murphy Clark Band?
Speaker 2: Yes, either one is fine. They are whatever you want to call it, Murphy Clark.
Speaker 14: Okay. So Jenny and I are joined live in studio by of course, Brian Murphy. Brian Murphy and Mike Clark. Is probably not Murphy, right, because then it would be the Murphy Clark right, Brian Murphy and Mike Clark. You're in studio and uh I love that track and of course as you as you witnessed, I could not help but sing along with it. And that's how you know you've got something right on the point, right, Yeah, when you when you play something for somebody and they can't help it sing along like it's not even like it's not like, oh I think I'll sing along to this.
Speaker 14: It's just an involved and terry motion, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who we hope for.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, and we'll play some more of your stuff as we as we go along. But it's great to have you guys here.
Speaker 15: For having us and thank you for doing this. Oh absolutely no local bands need the support.
Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely. Well, we love it and there's so much you know, Jenny does all the booking and sometimes people will ask her, you know, where do you find all these great artists and.
Speaker 15: It's so much talent around here. Absolutely, you know it's incredible. You just use the word yeah, yeah, I looked it up this morning. Don't ask me to spell it though.
Speaker 2: There is a great word, yes, yes, hell does it mean a lot of pu yeah, you know. Sometimes Brian needs help.
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, we all need help something for sure. Yeah, yeah, no, I love it. You guys have a great sound. I feel like kind of the secret weapon is the vocals and the harmonies and everything is. And how long has this project existed? Have you guys been at the a while or is this new.
Speaker 2: Or we've been collaborating for about thirty years? I think we started.
Speaker 15: Working a while. Yeah, we started. You weren't even born, Matt, I think.
Speaker 14: Oh my goodness, I probably I probably was, But.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know we started, you know, way back in the day, in the mid nineties, I was I was recording with Aquatanang was the name of the band. We were with Sony and Manhattan back in the big record days, no kidding, and uh, you know, we we worked there and then I wanted to find somebody local, so I did a session with Mike and I really liked the way he mixed, okay, and so we started working back then. He started running sound for us with Aquatanang and then started doing records together. You know, at that point we've been doing him ever since.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that was in a bridge version. I sped it up a little bit, so, but yeah, that's that's how it's you know, and a bit more from there.
Speaker 15: Okay, yeah, okay, people change, you know, members changed, and the sound of the band changed. We went we're all electric now. Yeah that Aquatang was all acoustics. Ohkid, yeah yeah, so folks Dylan did it, We figured we could do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so that actually because before, you know, after Aquatanang, well with Aquatanang, Mike started to do percussion for us and work his way in. And then after that we decided to start a different project of the first iteration of Murphy Clark, which was Americana, right bass. I played the mandola.
Speaker 2: Oh no kidding, Yeah, And we did that I think like twelve years until COVID hit. Yeah, and then that wiped everything. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 16: Our our guitar player had like fourteen kids and yeah, and so we so then, uh, Mike's always wanted to go electric anyway, the acoustic thing was my thing. So yeah, you know, during the pandemic when we had the shutdown, it was just he and I and we sort of broke the rules and I kept going into the studio and we just started doing studio stuff and I.
Speaker 15: Kept handing him an electric See I'm in a rocker from way back when nothing wrong with acoustic stuff.
Speaker 16: So he kept saying, you know, so I took a couple of years and you know, got comfortable with the electric guitar, and yeah, now we we have a new format, uh with you know. But some of the like the female vocals h Marion and Cindy have been with us of course since the awkward.
Speaker 13: O.
Speaker 16: So four of us have been together since all that time. And now we have Gary Young who's a world class lead guitar player. He does a wonderful job is on the guitar now, Jeff Harrington on.
Speaker 2: Drums, who owns Indy Music. He owns c Indy Music.
Speaker 15: And Amherst Oh put a little bitcher there, yeah yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I teach voice there, voice teacher there. Yeah. Oh actually yeah we love it. Yeah yeah, music all the time.
Speaker 14: No, that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's tremendous, you know.
Speaker 16: I mean and as a songwriter too, and you know, doing music to accompany other singers with every kind of song you can think of, it really helps you see chord progressions, melodies, all kinds of things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it gives you a real heightened.
Speaker 16: Understanding of songs and music and all that, you know, and you just never know what you're going to get, everything from Taylor Swift to like Granddaddy sure whatever, you know. Yeah, so yeah, that's so it's been great.
Speaker 14: And so you guys have worked together pretty consistently then over the decades. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, you don't see that a lot. I mean, you know, we have sometimes a lot of bands on the show that people who have worked together for a long time, but they've worked together, but then not work together for a long time and then kind of reunited. But it sounds like you guys have been pretty consistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We have over one hundred and fifty published songs.
Speaker 15: Actually, oh my god, wown Yeah two of them.
Speaker 14: Yeah kidding. Now, what's the what's the live situation? Like, do you guys play out a lot or what's u.
Speaker 2: We're getting there? Yeah, we're kind of studio rats.
Speaker 15: But you know, we we played a few shows being into the Air and we're getting our show together and we have some booked towards the end of the season, end of the summer.
Speaker 16: Yeah, one in Mount Vernon on the twenty third, okay, in the town Square in mont Vernon.
Speaker 2: Oh, excellent, July twenty third, and that's at six.
Speaker 16: And then we have two shows in August, one at the Prayers of Nature the listening room there.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, you've got it right here. Oh yeah, what's that show?
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, she's brought two or three times.
Speaker 2: A big supporter of local music. I love that.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, Like you dedicated and devoted to musicians, and we honor that.
Speaker 2: That's a great thing. Yeah, what I mean?
Speaker 16: And so and then if the that's the August eighth, we're there and I think.
Speaker 2: It's Andre's Institute.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's the twenty fourth. Okay, that's it in Brookline. That's a really nice room too.
Speaker 15: There it used to be an old club called the Big Beer like seventies. I used to play there and there in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 15: And they reopened at the Art Institute part in. It's an amazing room. Oh cool, yeah, great. What's it called the Andres Institute. It used to be the Big Beer a lounge okay, like long time ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 14: What is so from from the perspective of you guys, what what has changed about? And this is something that comes up on the show a lot. What is what has changed over the years? As far as making music and and promoting music, and.
Speaker 2: Don't get me going on that.
Speaker 15: I guess my studio has been opened for forty years.
Speaker 14: Okay, so I'm really curious to get your perspective. Yeah, because everything's you know, obviously, the Internet changed everything.
Speaker 2: I mean when we started making records, we were using tape. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 15: Our editing capabilities was the race of blade and some splicing tape. Yeah, you know, so it's changed so much. Yeah, you know, Yeah, it's easy to make records.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I mean Billie Eilish want five Grammys off something she made in her bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yep. You know.
Speaker 15: So it's just everything's changed in the music business. Yeah, some good things, some bad things, right.
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, I think I think overall it's for the better.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 17: Oh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know I love digital.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You couldn't pay me to go back to tape.
Speaker 15: I used to teach audio engineering at a tech school and all the kids would be like, I'm going to open a studio and do analog tape. And I was like, dudes, you've never touched a piece of tape. You don't want to do that. You don't want to.
Speaker 2: Go back there.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you certainly don't want to go back to a dats.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, when I was a kid, I actually remember a friend of mine had a reel to reel tape and I remember, you know, trying to. Of course I screwed it all up, but I remember trying to like shoee, and yeah it was fun.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, I kind of appreciate those years though, because you know, I learned my skill from sort of the prehistoric way of recording to what it is now.
Speaker 16: And yeah, well I think it's really enhanced you mixing ability, you know what I mean, Like because in those days, you know, when you go into the studio, you had to rebuild the mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have total recall.
Speaker 16: So now everything pops up where you left it, which I love, you know what I mean. But he used to have to rebuild the mix from scratch all day.
Speaker 2: So that's really good for you.
Speaker 15: Bring up, bring up the bass, you know, so you're doing that all day long, and the modern engineers don't have to do that.
Speaker 2: Boom it's back, you know.
Speaker 14: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the audience has changed too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16: People have a lot more you know, like if like the nineties were kind of a golden age, right, you know, people bought eight CDs, you know, they bought CDs at your show or whatever like that. They listen to the CDs all the tracks, you know. Now it's different. People have a lot more entertainment options, you know. So music isn't king like it used to be, you know what I mean. But but I love the new format because you know, we get paid. You can get played all over the world, you know what I mean. I get royalty checks from ask Cap and Albania and things like that, you know, play we get played all over the world, you know, which is very interesting.
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh yeah, you don't have to get into the record in the six store anymore.
Speaker 16: Right right, yeah, And if you didn't sell somebody your record, they didn't have it.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, It's which I love.
Speaker 16: You know, you get played on YouTube, you get played on Spotify, which all our music get played here?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14: Well also, you know, from the perspective, we were talking about this earlier because we had on our first guests were from Ireland Moonlight Eclips and you know, obviously that wouldn't have happened pre Internet, right, you know, unless they were already famous. Right, But but doing this show too, you know, we were obviously we're in Manchester, New Hampshire at this this beautiful radio station WM and H beautiful. But we have listeners all over the world and you know, we have people who listening from Ireland in the in the chat room and and uh amazing.
Speaker 14: You know, it's the ability to to connect with with people globally is is just fantastic. And music is you know, the the international language anyway, So you know, it's wonderful as far as doing something like this and and what like what are because Mike you you alluded to some somethings something's for the.
Speaker 2: Better right over all? But absolutely, well what have what have?
Speaker 14: What have we? Is there something we've lost along the way with I.
Speaker 15: Think we've lost a lot of the soul in our music, you know, because you know, and I'm not putt we use computers and samples and you know, we integrate them with real playing.
Speaker 2: But a lot of.
Speaker 15: It's it seems like soulless to me, it's too much, too mechanical. Sometimes Okay, I don't know, you know, because.
Speaker 16: Mostly you know a lot of it is pre existing tracks. You know, people are dragging and dropping. Yeah, and the level of musicianship is different. Right, If you're dragging in all your track your tracks and dropping them and then singing something over it, it's not the same thing as people sitting over a piano or over a guitar, bent over there for years learning how to play.
Speaker 2: And all that music. It's going through them, through their heart, their soul, their their mind.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 16: If you drag and drop stuff, you drag it, you you and then sing over it, it's not it's not going through you, and it's not a development.
Speaker 2: And of course AI is going to push that narrative even more.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, you know it already. Yeah, it already is absolutely souno dot com. We've used that on the show.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 13: It is.
Speaker 2: The recording sounds amazing.
Speaker 15: I know they're formulaic because it's machine learning, but yeah, you know, if you ask it to do a country song, it sounds like modern country.
Speaker 14: It does.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, we tried it on. Uh, we did kind of a live demonstration of it on the show, because we talk about that a lot of on the show AI and the effect of it on the music industry, and so we Uh, it was something I'd kind of had in my back pocket for for a long time. An idea. You know, sometime when we have a segment, maybe a guest cancels or something. You know, there's always things going on in the music industry, so there's always things to talk about. So I was like, you know, let's let's try uh, let's try this.
Speaker 14: We'll make a song using SUNO and just see what happens.
Speaker 2: Its kind of fun lyrics for it.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 14: We Well, what we did was, you know, we just put in a bunch of prompts, you know, and and see what it spits out right. And Jenny and I both you know, we we uh just sat here kind of gobsmacked, like, wow, this is even better than we would have expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: No, I feel like, I mean, it's John Henry's style battle with A. I you know, call what I use RI. I. Yeah, we used a lot of A on my studio though.
Speaker 15: You know, it's incredible tools to like check tonal balance on or you know, you know, remove noise or anything like that. It's great tools for it, you know.
Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, but absolutely yeah. And I assume so everything you guys have done is recorded there, I assume, right.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, creative my studio, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 14: It sounds it sounds fantastic. Oh thanks, where's your studio? It'shers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's it called Clock Creative, Clark Creative.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and I've been there. I'm celebrating my fortieth niversary.
Speaker 2: Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 15: Could argue be the longest running commercial studio in New England. I don't know, it's a long time.
Speaker 14: You know what's interesting about that is.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 14: One of the things I find that's interesting about getting older is just seeing like what technologies change, what technologies go away, what technologies stick around, but also sometimes what people thought was going to change but doesn't change. And one of the things that has not changed as much is recording in terms of there's still a lot of really good recording studios around. Like you're obviously still thriving. You're celebrating forty years at Clark Creating.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: And the reason I bring that up is because you know, that's one of the things people predicted with the advent of home recording and then all the technology that we have.
Speaker 15: Now see a lot of bands integrate that with me though, like the band you're having on next Yeah, they'll come in and do their drum tracks with me or their rhythm section. They'll take it home, bring the files home and do all the close micing stuff like the vocals guitars because a lot of people use modeling now for guitars. Yeah, and then they bring back to me for mixing. So you know, you know, you can run away from it, but you have to learn how to integrate that into your business.
Speaker 14: Right right. Yeah. Yeah, So in your experience over the past forty well in more recent years with all this technology, are you still as busy as ever?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wonderful.
Speaker 15: And I do some commercial stuff too, like I do all the podcasts for Business New Hampshire magazine. Yeah, and I work for this big company called the Pilot Workshops, the pay site for pilots.
Speaker 2: They teach them how to not crash their plan.
Speaker 14: Oh no, kidding.
Speaker 15: So you know I do some of that stuff too, which I enjoy. Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, super busy.
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 16: Well, and I think like the home recording is a bit of a trap for musicians too, because you get bogged down in the in the engineering, right, so you know, and it takes away from the creative process you're you know, you're you're not focusing on your song and your performance. You're don't you gets compressive impressors, reverbs, eques, you know. So I recommend to songwriters to get your eyes ideas down right and get a sketch of it and then take it to the studio and do it in the studio, right, you know what I mean, and use the tools that you have with the home recording, but don't get bogged down at like so many people just get hung up on the technicalities, and you know, you need an engineer to engineer that, you know.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Also a lot of times too, uh, you know, someone an engineer might become a producer, a de facto producer, right, you know you.
Speaker 2: Kind of have to wear both those hats at the level where you work at. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 15: Yeah, very few bands can afford a producer or even trust a producer with their music. You have to trust the guy that's making the decisions on your tracks, which is a lot of times bands don't want to relinquish that control, of course I get that, Yeah, but you know, once you get a rapport with the artists, they trust you to kind of put your two cents in on you know, the arrangements or whatnot.
Speaker 14: Of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who is it that we have on next week?
Speaker 14: Who's recording with you?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What do they call Parental Eye or something?
Speaker 15: It's Jake Young? Oh, yes, yes, I always can't remember the name of their band. I can't pronounce the first.
Speaker 14: Well, that's the thing. Yeah, I think. I think even when he was here, he he even said, uh yeah, because he was here and the Youngs and even said, yeah, no, one can pronounce the name of this other project.
Speaker 2: I can't do it. We did Aquatang. Don't do it, guys, pretty easy.
Speaker 14: I'm curious about Aquatinang. So you were were you were signed to a major?
Speaker 2: We were.
Speaker 16: We were at Sony in Manhattan. We never actually got signed. We were brought in there as like a spec project. Oh really okay, and we worked.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 16: I mean we were down in Sony in the nineties. It was amazing the music going on, you know, like, yeah, one of the times we were there, we were doing a session and the engineer came in and said, we all have to get out of here because Michael's here.
Speaker 15: And I said, Michael, who it wasn't me my reason to leave? And they said Michael Jackson. And so Michael Jackson came in with like his twenty twenty people strong code really yeah yeah, and they just he wanted everyone else out the boots. So yeah, yeah, thanks Michael.
Speaker 14: Oh that's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm alive and you're not.
Speaker 14: That's well, that's true.
Speaker 2: No, but but that's it was. It was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing and.
Speaker 16: But but but Mike's Mike's a better engineer than anybody down in Sony though.
Speaker 2: That's for sure. Here you go. Wow, yeah, yeah, I don't want to borrow money or something, Yes, I do. I don't have any I guess that was pretty sure.
Speaker 14: Parents, Well, he won't be b borrowing any money from Michael Jackson's estate, so, you know, apparently, so you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean Ozzie was down there. I peed next to jay Z, Jay next to jay Z. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing.
Speaker 15: It wasn't r Kelly. It might be a different, yeah scenario, Jasey didn't pay.
Speaker 14: No kidding me. Well, actually some of the allegations against jay Z, now that that might you know crazy, Yeah, yeah, that could have been risky.
Speaker 2: You know, he had no interest in me.
Speaker 14: Apparently, I hope none of that's true because ninety nine Problems is like my favorite hip hop song of all time. Yeah, I hope none of that's true.
Speaker 2: He's still considered the best hip hop artists.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I love jay Z, so I hope none of that sounds true. Yeah, but oh boy, we should play another track. What do you guys, I'll let you pick. I mean, what would you guys like to h to feature next of the songs that he's one?
Speaker 2: Sure, it's kind of interesting. There's some horns in it.
Speaker 14: Oh, she's the one.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, now who's who's playing the horns on this?
Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We did on keyboard. Yeah. I used to use this program called Arcade. It's really cool.
Speaker 15: Like it's a California company, And what they do is they give you phrases of an instrument, so you kind of play it yourself, so you pick what you want to use out of the phrase.
Speaker 2: You develop it that way.
Speaker 15: It's not a loop, so it's there's still some human interaction with the program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool, it's cool. Yeah, these are what do you call them?
Speaker 15: Probably township township horns, yeah, because it's kind of reggae soundings. Okay, cool, Yeah, they're slightly detuned, you know what I mean?
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Let's give this a spand this is She's the one, and this is the Murphy Clark Band.
Speaker 18: She's the kind of lady you don't want to awake her while she's sleep, A certain kind of someone you can tell her about the.
Speaker 19: Company she keep me. Beauty is the goodness of you one and loves awake.
Speaker 11: Goodness is the beauty one.
Speaker 3: That lights away.
Speaker 20: Oh oh, styles the agent for.
Speaker 1: The wild, and it's been a work.
Speaker 3: She's the one, a certain.
Speaker 11: Kind of flower that God himself has shielded with his hands, and out of the ashes of a fire.
Speaker 20: Comes up stronger one to stand. And Beauty is the goodness of you one.
Speaker 3: Love wi. Goodness is the beauty.
Speaker 11: One A light way, a race, a style, easy.
Speaker 1: For one, and it's been working. She's the one.
Speaker 3: She's won till the night, till he break it down.
Speaker 11: I see her like shinun, I see her life.
Speaker 3: Show.
Speaker 7: She's she's young.
Speaker 6: She's the can you lady do.
Speaker 3: To wake up?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 7: She's said, hmmm.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 14: That's a nice sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian wrote that for Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 14: I really like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know who Sydney.
Speaker 14: I was gonna I was gonna say, who's Sidney sweeeney?
Speaker 2: What you guys don't get out much, do you.
Speaker 8: I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 14: I feel like I should know. I was gonna say, I feel like I should know the reference Murphy Clark band here and uh here in studio with us Brian Murphy and Mike Clark. You know what I like about that?
Speaker 2: In the mix?
Speaker 14: I like the way the horns are are present, but they're not like sometimes when you hear horns they're.
Speaker 2: Loud, you know what I mean?
Speaker 14: And though and and I like the where the horns sit in the mix.
Speaker 15: Well, well, definitely a vocal band, so everything kind of like goes under the vocals.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, but it's a hook I mean yeah, it's a hook onto itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I like it.
Speaker 14: It has a lot of texture. Yeah, and the vocals too, aren't super loud either. It's interesting. But I really like the mix. Thanks, Yeah, absolutely absolutely that.
Speaker 16: I think that's one of his strong suits Mike, is his mixing ability. Okay, you know, I think that's really like, definitely that's what attracted to me in the beginning.
Speaker 2: Of Dashing good look and the hair, Yeah, the hair.
Speaker 8: And he said, you're a vocal teacher, right, yes I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So do you ever get students that just want to sing karaoke without killing any animals?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 16: I do get I get the karaoke contingent, no doubt, you know what I mean? Yeah, but yeah, and that's the beauty of it. I have singers across the spectrum, you know, I really love doing that.
Speaker 2: I love doing that.
Speaker 14: Do you do you ever This might be a strange question, but do you ever have to kind of turn away anybody like, like, do you ever have you ever had a student who you just kind of feel like how they're not going to get this?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 16: Typically not, because you know, everyone can get better as long as they're not, you know, tone deaf.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a difference between being tone deaf and being pitched deficient.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 16: Pitch deficiency can be you can train somebody to get their pitches correct. If somebody's actually tone deaf, they don't really like music anyway, right, So I don't get those kind of people because they don't enjoy music. Okay, So, and I do get people from time to time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's a difference. And I do get people, you know, from time to time that say, you know, after we do a couple of lessons, they say, what do you think, And I'll tell them, I'll say, you know, if they're pitch deficient, I'll say, you will be able to sing, but it's going to be a lot of work.
Speaker 16: If you want to do the work, we can get it done, you know what I mean. And they're never going to be your great singers, right, but you can be good enough to sing in your church band, or sing backups in your band, or do the occasional lead vocal in your group. But you know, great singers though, usually come to me singing already.
Speaker 14: Okay, interesting yeah, yeah. Part of why that's so interesting to me is so I went through a few different vocal teachers, uh along the way. And you might even know I'm rolling Belile. Is that a familiar recognized because you have He was the owner of Bellile Music here in Manchester. Yeah, and I went I went to him and a couple other people over the years, and I you know, it's it's an odd thing with me. I'm actually not a bad harmony singer, I can kind of lock in and find the octave and whatnot.
Speaker 14: But on my own I get lost.
Speaker 2: You play in the band, yeah, I've.
Speaker 14: Not currently, but I'm a musician, you know. I play bass and a little bit of guitar, and I'm certainly do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It Yeah, if you love music, you're not tone deaf. Okay what I mean. But pitch deficiency is the lord and thing.
Speaker 14: Know you're you're a better singer.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, if you if you enjoy music, you can do it. And it's just because typically that's a coordination issue, right, It's because what you're hearing in your you know, head is not coordinating up with your your voice. Yeah right, you know what I mean. So that can be trained in.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean. That's that's the fundamental difference there.
Speaker 14: Okay, just hope for me yet.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Grandma says I killed cats.
Speaker 14: Oh, Jenny is a better singer than she thinks she is. But but so but so tone deafness though, So that's real. That's a real thing, because that's the other thing I was curious about.
Speaker 16: And you meet people like that from time to time, Like I used to fish with a guy. He didn't care what radio station was on. You're getting this truck, and what the hell are you listening to? He said, It's all the same to me. It's just noise.
Speaker 8: That's that's surprising to me. I would have never thought that. I mean, I thought that I could be tone deaf, because I you know what I mean. But I never thought that people who are tone deaf are generally not happy about music.
Speaker 16: Yeah, they just don't like it because they don't hear them melodic difference, So it's just irritating.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. You don't hear melody, it's just noise.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, because I've heard people say, yeah, I don't really like music, and it's but rarely have I heard anyone say that. And then when I when someone does say that, it's like, you know, I've always assumed there's something neurologically wrong with them, because who doesn't like music? It seems so strange.
Speaker 8: You're kind of right, because if somebody's tone deaf, that is right.
Speaker 2: It would probably annoy them rather than entertain them.
Speaker 14: That's interesting an estimate of how many people like that are in the world, or because I would assume that's extremely rare, right, it's.
Speaker 2: Got to be. I've never done any research. Yeah, you know, I just know that.
Speaker 14: I'm just curious, you know that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 16: But most of the time, those you know, those people don't come for voice lessons because they don't care about it, right, they wouldn't be the people that are pitched efficient. And a lot of people say the same thing as you've said, is I can sing harmony, I can sing with others. They can sing in a choir. But when they're but trained in okay, you know, through exercises and you know, like dedication, you know, yeah, you have to work out.
Speaker 2: I still won't give me a microphone. No you don't sink mike, No, No, only in the shower.
Speaker 14: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I get an audience to come in with me.
Speaker 8: But a shower cooking for me. But you are correct, it is a very low number. Back in twenty seventeen, they did a study estimating that between one point five percent to up to four percent of people have tone deafness, also known as a musia M A M S.
Speaker 2: I go, Brice. I don't think it should be funny. I got a musia. Yeah, I took penestill and mind cleared up. Okay, you're shut his microphone. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 8: It is a it can be congenital, in which case it can be more severe, which is rarer than people in general who are tone deaf, which is that one to four percent. So it is very a very low percentage of the population.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interestingly. Yeah, so it's not the people we thought it was.
Speaker 8: But it's not the people I would have thought it was. I would have thought that. It's like I didn't I can't hit that. No, so I'm tone deaf because I can't hit right.
Speaker 16: That's what I thought that it meant, and a lot of times too, like you can go in somebody's vocal range and you can find out right that place in their voice, you know, especially the upper bridge of someone's voice where the coordination's going flat a little bit. I'll know exactly what to do.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16: You know exactly the range to work, and you know where the coordination issue is.
Speaker 14: Yeah. I remember Roland doing that with me and trying to figure out where my range was.
Speaker 8: No wonder you guys have beautiful harmonies.
Speaker 16: Oh thanks you gorgeous. Marion and Cindy have always been like that. They sing together just beautifully. They have a real super chemistry.
Speaker 8: It sounds like they're related, you know what I mean. How related people can really get that crazy harmony.
Speaker 2: Together for thirty five years or whatever it is. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 16: I can remember one time I was at a bluegrass festival in Texas, uh, you know, in the eighties, and Marian and Cindy were there with me, and they had they weren't really singing yet, you know what I mean. So I was with my banjo player and we were out going and playing with everybody, and I come back and there's this beautiful singing going on in the tent. I'm like, what the hell is going on in there? I open it up and it's Cindy and Marion and Marian's on guitar and they're harmonize. Like Chris, I said, I didn't know you guys could harmonize like that.
Speaker 16: They go, oh yeah, So that's where it began, you know, like I kind of realized, like, what the hell you know, yeah, I accident, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And they just right from the beginning had had a kind of a chemistry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 5: Is Uh.
Speaker 14: Now, some of the early music that you guys did, is that all available because you said you've got one hundred and fifty published, Yes.
Speaker 2: All of it.
Speaker 16: The Awkwatanang stuff is still it still gets spun all all the time, you know, the stuff about that like she Reigns particularly and fragile As and Nail the Aquatanang Ones, those two in particular, where they're sort of the band at the height of their powers. Okay, And it sounds like the nineties. I mean like I put that on and I just think, oh, yeah, here we are back there again, you know, kidding it's interesting.
Speaker 14: I'll have to check some of that out later. I'm curious. Yeah, I'll do a deep dive.
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, yeah, And uh we've been working together, like I said, ever since then. So yeah, you know, it's a it's a real Uh. I think it's historic. I think New Hampshire musical history, our collaboration over the years, you know, even though you know not a lot of people know about it.
Speaker 14: I think, well, it must be kind of intuitive, right, especially at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably is effortless. The work, the workflows very nice.
Speaker 16: Yeah, Like now I'll write a couple of songs or when we're ready for a new song, he'll he'll just say, what have you got, yeah, and I'll just I'll get out my guitar and I'll play through a few things and he'll say that one yeah, and then and then we start to arrange it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Mike's very good with the arrangement.
Speaker 16: And it's really nice for a songwriter and a singer to have like what I call ears on the outside, you know, and if somebody that listens to your music and says.
Speaker 2: I like this, I don't like that, you know.
Speaker 16: I need to trust him with it, though, and he can be honest with me and say, you know, you're you're pushing too hard here, or you're biting down on that, or you know, things like that that would normally hurt your feelings, and I'll just you know.
Speaker 3: Right right.
Speaker 16: But but it's really you know, for somebody, you know, and so he'll pick generally, you know, I'll run through a couple like, uh, go on, go ahead and break. I wrote this past Valentine's Steak because I was down with influenza a I believe, and I was out for it, you know, And that the week I was out, I wrote three songs that week, which is great, and and go Ahead and Break was the last one of the three, okay, And so he says, what have you got? So I started playing that when he goes, that's the one.
Speaker 16: Let's do that one, you know, so he and then you know, then the band gets together, we start to arrange it. You know, Jeff Harrington, the drummer, had some nice arrangement ideas for for go Ahead and Break and so you know we sort of do that as a band, and yeah, and arrange it.
Speaker 2: And and for a songwriter too.
Speaker 16: Had to have a team that you can work with, like Cindy and Marion are great, like we like this. We don't like that, you know, for everybody to chip in, for every talented person, it helps you with your composition. The composition gets ratcheted up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 16: So it's it's really like it's a dream come true to have a team to work with you on the songs, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah, and contribute to their considerable talent, you know.
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, you guys want to play another one? We should? We should play another one. These are so good. What do you guys want to let highway?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hello, Highway, Hello Highway, this is a song about your travels. Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, we were doing some care I wrote that stuck in traffic and uh in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: No, No, Worcester. I was going through Worcester.
Speaker 16: Because my father lived in North Carolina and going down the stretch he was dying to Parkinson's. We would do caregiving and everybody in the family would get down there for a couple of weeks. We were doing a lot of highway time. Yeah, And so one particular time, my sister said called me and said we got to get down there. So as I was going down driving through Worcester, I was like, Hello Highway.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 16: So the next twenty four hours of driving I wrote the rest of the song in my mind. Yeah, and then when I got back to town, I wrote it down, you know. But that's how that one came about.
Speaker 14: Okay, all right, yeah, let's give this a spand this is Hello Highway, and this is the Murphy Clark band.
Speaker 1: Hello Highway.
Speaker 2: Remember me.
Speaker 1: And the one that I used to be.
Speaker 3: Hello? How way? Can you take me home.
Speaker 17: To a place?
Speaker 1: He said, I never.
Speaker 6: Really know, never really know, never really know.
Speaker 3: Can you take me home? Hello Highway?
Speaker 7: I'm away.
Speaker 3: Hello Highway.
Speaker 1: What's that you say?
Speaker 3: Can you take me back to a better day? I well right and packing.
Speaker 1: Strong to get up off the floor didn't take so long.
Speaker 3: It didn't take so long.
Speaker 6: I didn't take so long.
Speaker 1: To get up for food, Hello Highway.
Speaker 6: I don't need a place to call my own.
Speaker 3: I don't need a phase to king. I just need a place to lay it down where I can get some sweep. I don't need a place on my own. I don't need the place to me. I just need place to thing be down where I I can get some sleep.
Speaker 7: I can get some sleep.
Speaker 6: High sleep.
Speaker 4: Wait, Hello Highway.
Speaker 3: Time to go.
Speaker 1: No, he'll need to remind me that you told me so.
Speaker 3: You told me so. Yeah, you told me so. No need to remind.
Speaker 9: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, mm hmmm, Hello Highway.
Speaker 14: It's kind of got lost in that one listening to that. That's really good guy.
Speaker 2: You want to go on that? Yeah? You want to go paint?
Speaker 8: I want to go paint.
Speaker 14: She likes she likes to listen to music while she paints.
Speaker 2: So cool.
Speaker 14: Yeah, she's gonna she's gonna put that on.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'd love to love everybody. Put us on your playlist, please, Yeah, and I should say to you. We're on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, YouTube. I love my YouTube channel small though it may be, yeah, but you know, we're on all the major platforms.
Speaker 2: The music is just some crazy videos on YouTube, are there? Yeah?
Speaker 15: I get all the video duties. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but it's kind of fun. Video is a lot of work, and I'm clunky on it because I'm an audio guy. Sure, sure, it's you know, fun to do videos.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a powerful song though.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks, so good. That is so good.
Speaker 14: If you are just joining us. We've got Brian Murphy and Mike Clark from the Murphy Clark Band here with us in studio and we've been talking a lot and playing some tunes and uh, just just really great. Is is that one of the more recent ones? Or or is that is that one been out for a while?
Speaker 2: I think it's eight months maybe, Okay.
Speaker 16: We try to get a song done every two months, okay, and we've been relatively successful with that. That includes you know, the writing, the arranging and then the production of it, and you know, we try to get get two months of ourselves, you know. So yeah, that one's probably about four songs back, I would say eight months or six months or something like that.
Speaker 14: And so that's kind of the schedule. So is there is there an album that these are going to coalesce into or are you just going to keep doing singles?
Speaker 2: We don't do. I don't we don't feel like the lost platform.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: I think it's very difficult to get people to listen to a CD anyway, you know, because people have so much, so many entertainment options, I feel like. And another thing too, is when you release a single, you know, you get a bump on all the platforms. So if you're on Spotify, your Apple Music or whatever, you get a little you know, especially if you're a verified artist, you get a bump, so they promote that single for the first week or so like that. So if you release a CD, your CD gets that pump.
Speaker 16: But if you release a single, you get a bump every time you do the single. So it's just kind of more advantageous. And another thing I like about it, Matt, is it allows the artists to work in what I call the honeymoon period with the song, right, So when you have a new song, everybody's excited about it, everybody's get you know, gives it, they're all. But if you do a CD project and you get hung up, the next thing, you know, everything starts to kind of slow down.
Speaker 15: You tend to rush through things if you'd you know, oh, we got to finish this because we have ten other songs we have to complete, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and then you might slide or you know.
Speaker 16: Then you cannot work on a song for four months and then you kind of come back to it and I, where where were we with this one?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And you don't care about it anymore? Really?
Speaker 16: Whereas if you do a song and it's that song, you know, And I recommend this to musicians all the times, and they never listen. They always say, no, we're doing a CD, and I say, okay, fine. When it gets bogged down, give me a call.
Speaker 2: Don't tell them that bright, I lose money. When you tell.
Speaker 16: Singles you'll make the same amount of money. Just think how much money I've paid you, dude. Come on, you walk into that.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong.
Speaker 15: I would love people to put the needle on the record and listen to the whole record. I kind of missed that because I'm guilty of it. Like I'll listen to like the new David Gilmour record and listen to two tracks then go oh, you know, uh to the wet Sprockett has a new record out of.
Speaker 2: Whoever, you know what I mean. So, you there's so much to choose from your access.
Speaker 16: So I kind of look at it like, instead of putting out a CD, is put out a single and hope to get on some playlists, Hope people include it on their favorite playlist or whatever like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, yeah, you stay visible to yeah exactly. Yeah, and a lot.
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, you can do a show and one person might come up and say, do you have a CD for sale? You know, and but most of the time not, you know what I mean, because people don't think of it that way.
Speaker 15: They don't put ring cars anymore, so you are Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 16: I've just kind of moved away from that, and periodically I think, oh, I should put it all together in a CD project, and then I think, you know why, yeah you know, yeah, So that's my that's my theory on it.
Speaker 2: Anyway. Yeah, Well, listening habits have changed, Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah. Change.
Speaker 16: Like I said, what I like about most of it is doing a song, putting your all into it, getting the best mix you can, and then moving on.
Speaker 2: To the next one. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean. It keeps you know, it keeps you writing, it keeps you, you know, working like that, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's so many different ways now to release music and so many different strategies you should use, and you know that's that's all changed too. Yeah, and yeah no, it's uh, technology has just changed everything. But but yeah, but it's like you know, you kind of you do have to kind of feed the machine, feed that algorithm.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 16: Really, the CD period was a very short period and musical history, right, I mean you probably remember singles where you get a forty five Yeah, you know in that you know, I mean it was one song.
Speaker 2: Side or whatever.
Speaker 14: I might I might be you look good, I might thank you, thank you, I'm moisturized, I stay hydrated. But yeah, it's some some of the artists we have on the show have kind of recommitted to physical media just because you know, sometimes if you're a fan, it's it's nice to have liner notes and things like that.
Speaker 2: But miss that yeah there with the album cover, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 14: The best, Like the Vinyl the gatefold, you know, and you.
Speaker 15: Can against mixing art mediums. You know, you have the music and you have the art that was exactly record cover exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, well, gentlemen, so that the time goes quickly. We will do this again in the future, though.
Speaker 2: I would love to come back.
Speaker 14: I'd love to have you guys got stories man, Yeah yeah, yeah, and especially too as you're releasing new music, because you know, you keep putting out new stuff. So yeah, so that's that's an easy excuse to get you back on. But in the meantime, we should close our segment with one more track.
Speaker 2: What would you guys like to Uh, yeah, we could do only you, only you, only you, man. Ay, this is the one that came before go on and break.
Speaker 14: It's only you, okay, anything we should know about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one I don't remember.
Speaker 20: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is a track we revisited though, okay, yeah, because from a while ago. Okay, we did it back in the day.
Speaker 16: I don't remember the specifics are right in this one though, in particular, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Just okay, you know I can't do in a dream? Yeah, yeah, that's poetic.
Speaker 14: Yeah, right, And before we spend this anything. What should our listeners know about how to find you guys online? What's the best place to go to keep up with everything?
Speaker 2: The Murphy Clark. We have a Facebook. I run it.
Speaker 16: So if you think I suck at Facebook, you're right. So I do this social media so you'll you'll you'll know that.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 15: The channel, the YouTube channels great though. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. There's live videos on there. And okay, it's Murphy Clark. Just if you tell you in Murphy Clark, it'll come up, okay, okay. And we appreciate anybody adding adding a song to their their favorite playlist or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you appreciate it. And if if somebody writes something on YouTube, we see it.
Speaker 15: Jen's gonna paint to one of the Yes, yes she is. And if anyone wants to dance naked, that's fine too.
Speaker 14: You can do that, you know, absolutely, not here, not here.
Speaker 2: We can that.
Speaker 14: The cameras are on and I don't think we're zoned for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I should. I should have done some sit ups or something.
Speaker 16: As far it's gonna appear naked, I look pretty sure in the park if you give me a chance.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, we will have you back, so we'll thanks for everything and thank you for your commitment. Everyone. You know, we really appreciate that, like thank you, just like Kate over it.
Speaker 16: You know the listening room. The dedication and devotion that people have is so important, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It means a lot to us.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I mean no, we we love it, you know, Jenny and I love to I appreciate that absolutely, absolutely, so we will. We'll close out the segment with only You Man. That's the title of this track, Only You Oh it's just only you Okay. I was sure because it says only you Man on here, but it says only you Man mixed, so I don't know if it was.
Speaker 15: The band from my studio to name stuff what I want to name it. Yeah, that's not the name of the song, smell, it's it's just from my file.
Speaker 14: I got I gotcha, I gotcha all right. And if you are listening live on Saturday morning, Aaron Bildo is coming up next in the third hour, so stick around for that. He's going to play live. But guys, thank you again. Brian Murphy and Mike Clark from the Murphy Clark Band, and here it is only you.
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Speaker 7: Up.
Speaker 3: Pick you well, I'll thank.
Speaker 4: You for did you recall down and be coming down.
Speaker 6: I'll dry your.
Speaker 3: Does on man only.
Speaker 4: Man only.
Speaker 3: Like myself.
Speaker 4: I sh like myself.
Speaker 5: I shrike myself much like myself.
Speaker 3: I'll much like man. And in the night when your heart is broken, Oh god son, nest you.
Speaker 7: S seeking.
Speaker 4: Satime, I will not.
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Speaker 5: Like myself, unch like myself, unsup myself.
Speaker 3: I'm much like me. It's alright when yourself.
Speaker 2: Right, when you come, so you.
Speaker 3: Ever make, you should use me for Jamie.
Speaker 21: I will not put sid's cause.
Speaker 3: Man only you, man on.
Speaker 4: Only you.
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