Nancy Manet | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: It's called set us Fore. Another great track from Nancy Manette,

0:03 Speaker 1: who is here with us online via teams. I think, hey, Nancy,

0:07 Speaker 1: are you there?

0:08 Speaker 2: Hey I am, can you hear me?

0:10 Speaker 1: Excellent? Yeah, no, you sound great. Welcome to the program,

0:12 Speaker 1: welcome back, Thank you absolutely so tell us about so.

0:17 Speaker 1: At the top of the hour, we played Hey Little Brother,

0:20 Speaker 1: and and it looks like that's been pretty successful for

0:24 Speaker 1: you as a single.

0:25 Speaker 2: It has. Yeah, And you know, I know you you

0:30 Speaker 2: talk with so many amazing artists and we're always surprised, right,

0:34 Speaker 2: you know, we have our personal favorites are the ones

0:38 Speaker 2: that you know, we think will land, you know, very

0:40 Speaker 2: strongly with people, and then one that just takes off

0:46 Speaker 2: and you kind of like wow, you know, and and

0:51 Speaker 2: yeah it did, it did, and I'm really excited about it.

0:55 Speaker 1: So wow, you sound surprised, though, I mean, is there

0:57 Speaker 1: is there something about the song that you didn't think

1:00 Speaker 1: it was maybe as commercially viable as as it turned

1:03 Speaker 1: out to be, or really.

1:05 Speaker 2: Really good question. No. I think I was just super

1:08 Speaker 2: playful about about the song, and you know, it was

1:15 Speaker 2: for It was for a very good friend of mine

1:18 Speaker 2: who is ten years younger, and I call him my

1:21 Speaker 2: little brother, and he always calls me sis, and I

1:24 Speaker 2: just I just wrote this fun, playful song really kind

1:28 Speaker 2: of you know, as a tribute to him. And and

1:31 Speaker 2: you know, I mean because a lot of the other

1:33 Speaker 2: songs that we, you know, that I write, that we've

1:36 Speaker 2: even talked about, are heavily thematic in the sense of

1:40 Speaker 2: like I've got something very strong and and this was

1:44 Speaker 2: just just love and encouragement for my little bro. And uh, yeah,

1:49 Speaker 2: I'm excited because it is for all the little brothers

1:52 Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, you know, yeah for sure. So that's

1:55 Speaker 2: the reason, you know, because it just was one of those,

1:58 Speaker 2: you know, the people that that I love in my life,

2:02 Speaker 2: I'll write songs for them.

2:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very cool. Is this is this the most

2:08 Speaker 1: successful single you've had thus.

2:09 Speaker 2: Far in commercial radio? Yes?

2:14 Speaker 1: Excellent?

2:14 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely yeah.

2:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that and this is from the album is Paths?

2:21 Speaker 1: And when did this come out? This is this is

2:24 Speaker 1: your newest release, obviously.

2:26 Speaker 2: My newest release. It came out in May, okay, yeah,

2:31 Speaker 2: and so h hey, little Brother hit the airwaves in

2:38 Speaker 2: May and it's just been going ever since.

2:42 Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, yeah, and you've you've recorded quite a

2:46 Speaker 1: few right now, how many albums have you recorded now?

2:48 Speaker 1: Because it seems like a you've recorded a lot in

2:51 Speaker 1: a relatively short span of time.

2:55 Speaker 2: You really want to know the number, like the actual

2:58 Speaker 2: album number we're working on. I can't see your face,

3:03 Speaker 2: so I'm getting it like yeah, nodding your head.

3:05 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, yes.

3:08 Speaker 2: We are and high gen by the way, we are

3:12 Speaker 2: working on album number five.

3:15 Speaker 1: This is you're working on number five right now?

3:19 Speaker 2: Yes?

3:20 Speaker 1: Oh wow?

3:22 Speaker 2: Been completed in what a span of what?

3:25 Speaker 1: Two years? Yes, that's that's great.

3:30 Speaker 2: The first the first. The first album took longer to

3:33 Speaker 2: write because I was in the process of should I

3:37 Speaker 2: write an album?

3:38 Speaker 1: Right?

3:38 Speaker 2: Should What? What would I want to Well, not even

3:41 Speaker 2: what would I want to write about. I've pretty much

3:43 Speaker 2: knew what I wanted to write about. But it was

3:46 Speaker 2: more of the can I right, It was the can question?

3:50 Speaker 2: Can I do it?

3:51 Speaker 3: Not?

3:51 Speaker 2: Can I do it? From a skill set? Can I

3:54 Speaker 2: do it? Because I you know, can I do it?

3:58 Speaker 2: Because I was always told I couldn't. Right, So in

4:01 Speaker 2: twenty twenty I had to start kind of you know,

4:04 Speaker 2: doing my own healing process of like wait, yeah, of

4:07 Speaker 2: course I can, of course I can do that, you know,

4:11 Speaker 2: Like wait, I was told I couldn't, and then I

4:14 Speaker 2: listened to it, you know, So there was a lot

4:17 Speaker 2: of that I had to get through to get that

4:19 Speaker 2: first album written. But then which really would be probably

4:23 Speaker 2: the first one and two and then three, four and

4:25 Speaker 2: five have been in the last year.

4:27 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, Yeah, that's that's a lot of output in

4:29 Speaker 1: a short time. Do you think putting out so much

4:34 Speaker 1: music is what has led to your current chart success

4:37 Speaker 1: with a Hey Little Brother?

4:39 Speaker 2: Oh you know, yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess I've

4:44 Speaker 2: never thought about it that way.

4:47 Speaker 3: But.

4:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I will say this, just the churning of

4:54 Speaker 2: music maybe is not the complete answer, because you know,

5:03 Speaker 2: first of all, writing music, the more you write anything right,

5:07 Speaker 2: the more you do anything, the better we become at it. Right.

5:11 Speaker 2: So plenty of songs, Matt, that I've written and I've

5:14 Speaker 2: gone you know, or or they've started one way and

5:20 Speaker 2: I've shelfed them and I've pulled off and I've either

5:23 Speaker 2: completely you know, cut and pasted and just moved around,

5:28 Speaker 2: or just scrapped tons of the lyrics and I took

5:31 Speaker 2: the theme, or sometimes I just completely start over with

5:34 Speaker 2: a new melody. But the ideas are there, right, And

5:39 Speaker 2: so there's that component. Then there's I have a great producer,

5:45 Speaker 2: I really do, and he challenges me. And the one

5:51 Speaker 2: that we're in the process right now, the number five.

5:57 Speaker 2: There were some songs when we sat down, I've submitted everything.

6:00 Speaker 2: We sat down and I said, okay, I'm want to

6:02 Speaker 2: bring my thoughts and he's bringing his thoughts, and you know,

6:06 Speaker 2: a couple of our thoughts actually aligned and.

6:09 Speaker 3: Meaning.

6:10 Speaker 2: Like one of the songs, I said, I think this

6:12 Speaker 2: one needs to be revisited, and it was on his list, right.

6:16 Speaker 2: And he's always pushing and always challenging and always reminding

6:22 Speaker 2: me to do something different and expand my my, my,

6:27 Speaker 2: even my skill set. Just keep growing, keep growing as

6:31 Speaker 2: a musician, Nancy, keep growing as a singer, and show

6:35 Speaker 2: growth every single thing you do and write, push yourself

6:38 Speaker 2: further and further and further. And it's been it's yeah.

6:42 Speaker 2: So that's a longer version probably the answer to that

6:45 Speaker 2: question for now, for hey, little brother, because because of

6:55 Speaker 2: all of that, and I listen, you know, I think

6:58 Speaker 2: having the right collaboration and then being willing to listen

7:03 Speaker 2: to what the feedback is and push and stretch and grow,

7:08 Speaker 2: and you know, even musically, I'll do things that I've

7:13 Speaker 2: never even tried before.

7:14 Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, well, have you worked with the

7:17 Speaker 1: same has it been the same producer for each project?

7:20 Speaker 2: It has been?

7:21 Speaker 1: It has been Okay. Yeah, so you definitely found somebody

7:25 Speaker 1: who you can work with who brings out the best

7:27 Speaker 1: in you and has a lot of ideas. And that's

7:29 Speaker 1: great too, because you know, a lot of artists they

7:31 Speaker 1: don't want to hear a lot of artists don't want

7:33 Speaker 1: to hear ideas necessarily, you know what I mean. They

7:35 Speaker 1: want to go in and they know what they want

7:36 Speaker 1: to do, and and you know, the producer doesn't always

7:41 Speaker 1: know best necessarily. But it sounds like the person you're

7:44 Speaker 1: working with. Who are they, by the way, what what's

7:47 Speaker 1: their name? We should give them credit?

7:49 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, David Percifal with Yellow Dog Studios. Okay, and yeah,

7:55 Speaker 2: so he's been He's been in the industry for forty

7:58 Speaker 2: plus years. Right, He's a great, ammy winning producer, has

8:03 Speaker 2: some very notable bands and experience under felt. And the

8:09 Speaker 2: thing about David Percival is that he never stops pushing himself. So,

8:16 Speaker 2: you know, the older that we get, we get we

8:18 Speaker 2: tend to get stuck right in our style or our ways.

8:21 Speaker 2: Or this is the way we do something, and he's

8:24 Speaker 2: constantly experimenting. So if I you know, I mean, I'm

8:29 Speaker 2: working with somebody who that is what he holds himself to,

8:34 Speaker 2: of course I'm I'm going to hold myself to that.

8:38 Speaker 2: I also, you know, I'm that's also kind of who

8:41 Speaker 2: I am. Never in my twenties, man, I coined well,

8:44 Speaker 2: I think it was already coined, but I heard it

8:46 Speaker 2: somewhere and then I made it mine right, never stop

8:52 Speaker 2: being teachable, Always be teachable. And that just meant a

8:57 Speaker 2: lifetime of curiosity and learning and listening. And you know,

9:02 Speaker 2: we have an agreement that that if he feels super

9:06 Speaker 2: strongly about something, he's really just I mean, he is

9:09 Speaker 2: going to tell me. And I don't like something that

9:12 Speaker 2: comes across in production, I'm I'm going to tell him.

9:19 Speaker 2: Like on the past album and people may have loved it,

9:22 Speaker 2: I could not. I couldn't do it. In the song

9:24 Speaker 2: that was in we had a Glockenspiel and I'm like, Dave,

9:27 Speaker 2: it's got to come out, that's all I hear. And

9:32 Speaker 2: he was like, Nancy, it's so fun. I'm like, it's

9:35 Speaker 2: gonna drive me nuts. And now post production and post mastering. Right,

9:40 Speaker 2: I'm like, now I only hear it, but nobody else

9:42 Speaker 2: knew what was there?

9:43 Speaker 1: Oh? Interesting?

9:44 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah it's funny.

9:47 Speaker 1: So now did you go onna? I saw something about

9:50 Speaker 1: a radio tour? Did you Did you go on a

9:51 Speaker 1: big radio tour for uh?

9:54 Speaker 2: I did? Just yes, and we're now we just spent

10:01 Speaker 2: so much time in the studio. I had to decide, Okay,

10:05 Speaker 2: what are what are the priorities? What what do we

10:09 Speaker 2: need to finish? What do we are? Because you can

10:12 Speaker 2: only go be so many places at once, right, yeah, that.

10:16 Speaker 1: Would be one exactly.

10:19 Speaker 2: I can only be in one place at one time.

10:23 Speaker 2: And so yes, so now we're so. Yes, we did

10:28 Speaker 2: the big radio tour, we did shows. Then we've just

10:31 Speaker 2: been hunkered down either in my home writing or doing

10:36 Speaker 2: things locally, doing private events and in the studio. So

10:40 Speaker 2: now we're gearing up to get back out, you know,

10:44 Speaker 2: to be on the road again.

10:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And then so what's the plan long term

10:49 Speaker 1: as far as is that us Free going to be

10:51 Speaker 1: the next single? That I understand that correctly?

10:54 Speaker 2: Yes, it is okay thank you, which which is very anthemic, right.

11:00 Speaker 2: So I wrote it with really specific intent and we

11:06 Speaker 2: did drop it first in January. But I will tell you, Matt,

11:12 Speaker 2: I dropped it on January sixth. Yeah, and I was

11:16 Speaker 2: and I'm just going to be as raw and as

11:19 Speaker 2: vulnerable and we're just going to let it land where

11:22 Speaker 2: it landed. And you know, plus I talked with my therapist.

11:28 Speaker 2: I was actually scared, really like we just did what

11:31 Speaker 2: We just dropped what song on January sixth. That's basically

11:36 Speaker 2: saying we don't want It's not basically it's flat out

11:39 Speaker 2: saying we don't want what our grandparents built, and we

11:44 Speaker 2: don't want what our parents thought they could do without

11:46 Speaker 2: getting caught. Yeah, I'm calling my our parents' generation, not everyone, right,

11:53 Speaker 2: not everyone very specifically. I'm making some statements and I'm

11:58 Speaker 2: making them based upon what I've I've listened to, you know,

12:01 Speaker 2: always remain teachable. I'm listening to what the younger generations

12:06 Speaker 2: are saying, and they're saying, we don't want that, we

12:11 Speaker 2: don't want we don't even want what all of you

12:14 Speaker 2: guys went out to scrap and build and work so

12:17 Speaker 2: hard and all the stuff you've accumulated. We don't want it.

12:20 Speaker 2: We don't want that, we don't want war.

12:24 Speaker 1: Right, we want to get wrong. And yeah, did you

12:28 Speaker 1: say this, because we've talked about the song before too.

12:30 Speaker 1: Was there something too about a conversation, a specific conversation

12:34 Speaker 1: that you had with your daughter. Am I remembering that correctly?

12:37 Speaker 2: That's what started the whole thing, was that she sat

12:40 Speaker 2: me down and just you know, said, there's a better

12:45 Speaker 2: way to do business, mom, There's a better way to

12:48 Speaker 2: do life where you're not so exhausted, because right, I mean,

12:53 Speaker 2: we were taught to do it all and we hadn't

12:56 Speaker 2: to do it all, and we had to do it

12:57 Speaker 2: all with energy and never sleep. And it's the work ethic.

13:01 Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with the work ethic. Or my

13:04 Speaker 2: daughter's got a fantastic work ethic. Yeah, she's an amazing

13:09 Speaker 2: life where she actually builds in respite and she isn't

13:12 Speaker 2: driving herself into the ground by thirty nine years old, right, Yeah,

13:17 Speaker 2: So that's what I was doing. I was driving myself

13:20 Speaker 2: into the ground at thirty nine, It's true. Yeah, yeah, laughy, Yeah,

13:27 Speaker 2: I made it mad. I made it past forty. But

13:29 Speaker 2: they said I wouldn't, right, right, I didn't shift. And

13:33 Speaker 2: I think it's also the amount of stress and the

13:36 Speaker 2: amount of anger and the amount of hate and she's like, Mom,

13:39 Speaker 2: it's just we we don't want it. We don't want

13:42 Speaker 2: a world like that anymore.

13:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're yeah, you you write about a lot of

13:49 Speaker 1: I mean obviously, like you said, hey, little brother is playful,

13:52 Speaker 1: but you you write a lot about a lot of

13:54 Speaker 1: heavy stuff. I do.

14:01 Speaker 2: I do. I'm kind of laughing because there's some things

14:04 Speaker 2: I've not I've not to put music to. But I

14:08 Speaker 2: just I'm rite, you know. And as soon as I

14:11 Speaker 2: got off the phone with my daughter, I sat down

14:16 Speaker 2: and I wrote, I actually, yeah, I wrote those lyrics.

14:20 Speaker 2: I wrote those specifically after that conversation because I was

14:23 Speaker 2: so moved by what she had to say. Yeah, so

14:27 Speaker 2: came to January. I was actually pretty afraid of how

14:31 Speaker 2: that could land. Yeah, I was. Actually I think nobody

14:36 Speaker 2: understood what was going to happen in come January. I

14:41 Speaker 2: don't think we still do. And we're trying to navigate.

14:46 Speaker 2: And there was there was, you know, I mean, Matt,

14:50 Speaker 2: you know some of my backstory. There was there was

14:52 Speaker 2: some old patriarchal and there's nothing wrong with men, right

14:57 Speaker 2: that this is not an anti men thing. For me,

15:01 Speaker 2: that old model was very much what really kept me silent.

15:06 Speaker 2: Why I had to ask myself, can I do this right?

15:11 Speaker 1: Yeah?

15:11 Speaker 2: That's actually why, because I came from that old model

15:15 Speaker 2: that that really held or holds a lot of people down,

15:20 Speaker 2: a lot of people down. And so yes, of course

15:22 Speaker 2: when that came out, it's like, oh, oh, but we're

15:28 Speaker 2: leading off with it next month. So yeah, for long,

15:32 Speaker 2: I was just quiet about it for a few months.

15:35 Speaker 1: Has that changed it all, by the way over the

15:37 Speaker 1: course of because you know, like we talked about, you've

15:39 Speaker 1: been creating a lot of music. Has your as your

15:42 Speaker 1: approach or your priorities in terms of what you're singing about?

15:46 Speaker 1: Has that changed it all over the course of that,

15:48 Speaker 1: because obviously in the beginning, you know, you had a

15:51 Speaker 1: lot to get out. At this point, are you still

15:55 Speaker 1: trying to work all that out through the songs or

15:58 Speaker 1: or or has as yours as your your priorities in

16:02 Speaker 1: terms of what you sing about changed at all?

16:04 Speaker 2: So what you're saying that is, am I still singing

16:08 Speaker 2: about loss and trauma?

16:12 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I suppose I am.

16:14 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, because that first work was really what I

16:19 Speaker 2: what I had done is I had weaved a story

16:21 Speaker 2: of my life. Yeah, and so that was a lot

16:26 Speaker 2: of a lot of that was I would say every

16:29 Speaker 2: song that was on that first work or the first two, right,

16:32 Speaker 2: because we've got a longer work that we did not

16:35 Speaker 2: release yet, and I would say that I had already

16:40 Speaker 2: gone through and processed that stuff. But now I'm putting

16:43 Speaker 2: it to music in a way that may and the

16:47 Speaker 2: hope is that it would resonate with others that are

16:50 Speaker 2: going through that. Right. But yes, the trauma and things

16:54 Speaker 2: like that. So the answer to that question is I

16:57 Speaker 2: still write from life, and I write from happy life,

17:05 Speaker 2: and I write from difficult life, and I write from

17:10 Speaker 2: painful life, and that that part is not going to change.

17:19 Speaker 2: I Oh, gosh, how do I want to say that?

17:24 Speaker 2: There are just different styles of writers?

17:27 Speaker 1: Yeah?

17:28 Speaker 2: And and sure do I want my music to be

17:32 Speaker 2: toe tapping? I want it to be you know, drawing

17:35 Speaker 2: in or a lot of ballads. I'm a ballad writer too, right,

17:38 Speaker 2: And so I want those to draw people, you know.

17:42 Speaker 2: My hope is that it draws people. But then but

17:45 Speaker 2: then eventually the lyrics hit right, like on the the

17:50 Speaker 2: number four I've written a song about, and they're not

17:56 Speaker 2: coming out in that order, just so that's clear, right, Yeah,

18:00 Speaker 2: we're not putting them so the technically the first album

18:04 Speaker 2: has not been released, and that won't be that'll be

18:06 Speaker 2: actually hanging out there for a while. The long one

18:09 Speaker 2: that you and I originally talked about, Okay, the seventeen

18:13 Speaker 2: song you know, rock Opera is right, it's a lot

18:18 Speaker 2: to digest. And my advisors really said, they're like, just

18:22 Speaker 2: let's let's write write albums for right now. Let's wait

18:26 Speaker 2: to bring that out. And that's that was the best advice.

18:30 Speaker 2: And if any artists are listening, listen to the advisors

18:34 Speaker 2: that have been in this world forever. Yeah, just listen

18:37 Speaker 2: to what they're saying. And so in next year a

18:40 Speaker 2: song's going to come out. That's about one of my

18:45 Speaker 2: best friends who lost her husband after thirty eight years

18:48 Speaker 2: of marriage, and it's her journey over the last four

18:52 Speaker 2: years of what she had to do to move on

18:55 Speaker 2: and just her thought processes in song format. Right. So

18:59 Speaker 2: when I first wrote it, it was probably eight minutes long. Yeah.

19:03 Speaker 2: I kept writing and writing and writing. I'm like, okay,

19:06 Speaker 2: now I have to trim, trim, trim, trim, Yeah, and

19:09 Speaker 2: then it was still very long. It was still five minutes,

19:11 Speaker 2: and I'm like, nope, got a trim trim trim trim trim. So,

19:15 Speaker 2: uh yeah, I do. I write from life. I write

19:19 Speaker 2: for my own life. I believe in therapy, I believe

19:22 Speaker 2: in healing, and and things always come up. They always

19:26 Speaker 2: come up. But I will say thematically I wouldn't necessarily

19:31 Speaker 2: from my own maybe because my life is settled a

19:33 Speaker 2: little bit. No, maybe from my own personal trauma. It's

19:39 Speaker 2: not so heavy. But I'm still writing thematically about things

19:45 Speaker 2: that I think about. Yeah right, yeah, things that I

19:49 Speaker 2: see happening in the world, things that are happening to

19:52 Speaker 2: people I know, see things that are just happening. Another

19:57 Speaker 2: one that's coming out addresses it addresses loss that's sudden,

20:03 Speaker 2: but it addresses It's specifically written about school shootings because

20:08 Speaker 2: I have a nephew that was in a school that

20:13 Speaker 2: in December had had a student shoot up a classroom.

20:17 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is yes, and when that touches

20:20 Speaker 2: that close to home, my nephew is fine. But I

20:23 Speaker 2: know staff at that school. It was where my kids

20:26 Speaker 2: grew up, where I raised them, and it hit home

20:31 Speaker 2: very strongly. It was, you know, the school's three doors

20:33 Speaker 2: away from where my kids grew up, and so friends

20:38 Speaker 2: and teachers and community members in Madison, Wisconsin. All were affected, right,

20:45 Speaker 2: everybody has been rocked and turned upside down, and that's

20:49 Speaker 2: just that's not it. There's not even a great way

20:51 Speaker 2: to say it, right, it's just horrible, horrible and horrible.

20:55 Speaker 2: But then there's lighter songs, right of course for all

20:59 Speaker 2: the generation exers. We have one that's coming out too.

21:07 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, all right, answered your question.

21:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely, And I know too, you know,

21:13 Speaker 1: you're right. You write a lot about, you know, advocacy

21:16 Speaker 1: for LGBTQ plus and I think that's important too, especially

21:19 Speaker 1: in the you know, the times we're living in.

21:22 Speaker 2: Yes, so on the one we're in the middle of

21:26 Speaker 2: right now, I have one that very much specifically deals

21:30 Speaker 2: with their freedoms and are Hispanic friends Absolutely.

21:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Okay, I don't.

21:43 Speaker 2: Even know what to say. You know, I'm born and

21:45 Speaker 2: raised in a suburb of LA and I live in Houston.

21:50 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, you no doubt no people or have

21:56 Speaker 1: known people who are affected. You no doubt no ah

22:00 Speaker 1: of people who have been affected by what's happening, or

22:03 Speaker 1: or are worried about being affected by what's happening. Yes, yeh,

22:07 Speaker 1: scary scary stuff, but but you know, certainly worth making

22:10 Speaker 1: music about. You know. That's that's I mean, you know,

22:13 Speaker 1: that's one of the best delivery systems for for for putting,

22:16 Speaker 1: you know, trying to put a message out there and

22:18 Speaker 1: expressing your concern about what's going on, you know.

22:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, Man, in my writing, I I hope

22:29 Speaker 2: to be a bridge. So the last name Manet actually

22:36 Speaker 2: you know it's it's the artist who bridge to generations

22:40 Speaker 2: of art, right. I take his example from realism to Impressionism.

22:45 Speaker 2: He taught money, and I thought about my life and

22:50 Speaker 2: just where I've been throughout my life and the opportunities

22:53 Speaker 2: I've been given, and where I tend to settle or

22:56 Speaker 2: not settle as far as like I'm settling, but where

22:58 Speaker 2: I land right, Yeah, and Pendaland is in a space

23:04 Speaker 2: of bridging, right, bridging two schools of thought, bridging two generations.

23:10 Speaker 2: You know, we've got the younger generation and the older generation.

23:14 Speaker 1: And it's.

23:19 Speaker 2: Hopefully like if you could see me, my hands are

23:21 Speaker 2: all stretched out, why, bridging thoughts and ideas and helping

23:27 Speaker 2: to cross this divide. And if anything that I write

23:30 Speaker 2: can can even just cause pause and for people to

23:36 Speaker 2: think even things lighter. You know, hey, little brother right.

23:41 Speaker 2: It is a light and fun song. But if we listen,

23:44 Speaker 2: you know, you aren't afraid to lead the way into

23:46 Speaker 2: the unknown. That means you're daring, as a little brother

23:52 Speaker 2: to the world, right to like venture out side of

23:56 Speaker 2: what you were told even as a child you had

23:59 Speaker 2: to be like, right, you're not afraid to do it,

24:03 Speaker 2: and you're leading the way on it, and and and

24:06 Speaker 2: so those have certain themes in it of encouragement and

24:10 Speaker 2: stepping out of who you know, what always has been

24:13 Speaker 2: and asking why And we're not all going to agree,

24:17 Speaker 2: and we were never supposed to all agree, right, I

24:22 Speaker 2: just don't think we were supposed to be positioned with,

24:26 Speaker 2: you know, war heads at each other all the time.

24:29 Speaker 2: I just don't think that that was the plan either, right, right.

24:32 Speaker 2: So you know, Matt, you know how when you tune

24:35 Speaker 2: a guitar, it takes tension, right, It takes tension to

24:41 Speaker 2: tune a string, Yeah, to bring it into the right frequency,

24:45 Speaker 2: to bring it into harmony. And the only way to

24:48 Speaker 2: do that is we have to have tension. But if

24:49 Speaker 2: we have too much tension, it snaps right enough tens

24:54 Speaker 2: you can't even tell what it is, right.

24:58 Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh, Nancy, just froze. Whoops, Oh what her screen

25:09 Speaker 1: is her screen is frozen? Oh no, uh yeah, well

25:16 Speaker 1: she did mention she was having internet issues.

25:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, that has been a bit of an issue for

25:20 Speaker 2: her today.

25:21 Speaker 1: Okay, I wonder if she's like, is she in the

25:23 Speaker 1: city or out in the I don't know, I don't know.

25:26 Speaker 1: It is late in the show. Oh, it's probably her

25:30 Speaker 1: on the phone. Good good, Hey Nancy, is that you?

25:35 Speaker 3: It is power again?

25:37 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah. All of a sudden, it froze the screen.

25:41 Speaker 1: I noticed the screen was frozen. I said, oh, that's

25:44 Speaker 1: why she's not talking.

25:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, right, Well, so I hope this is okay.

25:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, okay, Yeah, no, that's fine. Uh yeah, We're

25:55 Speaker 1: we're getting We're gonna have to wrap up soon anyway.

25:58 Speaker 1: But I'm glad. I'm glad you were able to call

26:00 Speaker 1: because I do want to ask you about to finish

26:03 Speaker 1: out the segment, we're going to play this track. Oh,

26:05 Speaker 1: Son of Mine. This is another one of the songs

26:07 Speaker 1: that you sent us that that I really like, and

26:09 Speaker 1: I wanted you to tell us about this, you know,

26:12 Speaker 1: any anything we should know about this track?

26:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Well, it was a toss up for

26:19 Speaker 3: which one was going to radio next this one or

26:21 Speaker 3: set us Free.

26:22 Speaker 2: So we did.

26:23 Speaker 3: We did a test market, and not because it isn't

26:28 Speaker 3: a great track. We just had some people feedback like

26:31 Speaker 3: the time was now right, yeah, set us Free. But

26:34 Speaker 3: here is what well, well, it's a very personal song

26:38 Speaker 3: to me because it was written for my son. And

26:41 Speaker 3: my son is thirty years old now. But you know,

26:46 Speaker 3: he at twenty two bought a house and when COVID hit,

26:51 Speaker 3: he sold that house and moved to the Houston region

26:56 Speaker 3: and ended up having to live off the propheeds of

26:59 Speaker 3: what he's sold his house for. And he was really

27:03 Speaker 3: bummed and he felt, you know, he felt like a failure.

27:08 Speaker 3: He had trouble getting back on his feet, he had

27:11 Speaker 3: trouble getting work again, and it's taken him a while

27:16 Speaker 3: to dig back out. And in his discouragement, I wrote

27:22 Speaker 3: this song and sent it to him and I said,

27:24 Speaker 3: anytime you're feeling low, I want you to hear this.

27:28 Speaker 3: And even some other friends of mine that were talking

27:31 Speaker 3: about their sons and the discouragements that they were feeling,

27:35 Speaker 3: and I said, so this is for our sons out there,

27:40 Speaker 3: no matter no matter who you are or where they are.

27:45 Speaker 3: Everybody that I've ever talked to their sons have gone

27:47 Speaker 3: through you know, down cycle and they've had to pull

27:51 Speaker 3: back up. And I my bigger and broader hope for

27:57 Speaker 3: this song is that young sons, you know, in that

28:01 Speaker 3: twenty somethings, you know, that teenage years, that they may

28:06 Speaker 3: find encouragement and hope that they can keep going and

28:10 Speaker 3: they can start again, and they can they can always rebuild,

28:15 Speaker 3: and they can always always remember that they are loved.

28:18 Speaker 1: Excellent. No, I think that's fantastic and certainly very relatable.

28:23 Speaker 1: So we're going to play that in a moment. One

28:25 Speaker 1: more thing, Nancy, where should people go online to keep

28:27 Speaker 1: up with everything that you're doing and find your music

28:29 Speaker 1: and everything you got going on. Where's the best place

28:31 Speaker 1: to go?

28:32 Speaker 2: Uh?

28:33 Speaker 3: Primary? Nancy, Mine m A N E T dot com. Okay,

28:39 Speaker 3: and find me on Facebook. I am on Instagram, but

28:45 Speaker 3: I am on Facebook more. Okay, I would say that.

28:51 Speaker 3: So I'm on Facebook, and really follow and send me

28:55 Speaker 3: a direct message because I respond personally and I love

28:59 Speaker 3: to act with people. So send me a message to

29:02 Speaker 3: my website. Send a message on Facebook. I'd love to

29:06 Speaker 3: hear from you, absolutely, and watch the website for the

29:10 Speaker 3: updates of a tour coming near you, guys.

29:14 Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. Oh hopefully we can see you personally. That

29:17 Speaker 1: would be great. That would be awesome.

29:19 Speaker 3: That would be that would be I would be honored

29:21 Speaker 3: to have you there.

29:23 Speaker 1: Thank you, definitely wonderful. All right, So we're going to

29:26 Speaker 1: hit that track, Nancy, we will let you go. I

29:29 Speaker 1: hope the rest of your day in terms of the

29:31 Speaker 1: Internet is better. But technology will fail us at times.

29:37 Speaker 1: I know the pain.

29:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for being flexible and gracious and as

29:42 Speaker 3: always you two. I'm just really I'm really grateful to

29:47 Speaker 3: be a part of your show and have you guys

29:49 Speaker 3: on this journey with me. So thank you. Oh well,

29:51 Speaker 3: we're being who you two you are.

29:53 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Nancy. We appreciate that very much, and

29:55 Speaker 1: we appreciate you and and we wish you continued success

29:59 Speaker 1: and we'll talk soon again. And I'm sure.

30:02 Speaker 3: Absolutely I would love it. Okay, thank you guys, and

30:04 Speaker 3: thanks again for rolling with today's internet.

30:06 Speaker 2: Oh you guys have the best, no.

30:08 Speaker 1: Worries, healthy internet, healthy Internet. That's right, all right, Nancy Manet,

30:12 Speaker 1: thank you so much.

30:14 Speaker 3: Next time in person. There you go, guys, have a

30:16 Speaker 3: good one

30:16 Speaker 1: YouTube, bye bye bye.