Rivia | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: There it is. I love it. That is such a

0:02 Speaker 1: great track, piece of view. The band is Rivia And

0:05 Speaker 1: let's see. I know we've got members of the band

0:08 Speaker 1: on the line. Let's see who we've got. Welcome everybody,

0:11 Speaker 1: can you hear me? Oh, it's always such a relief

0:15 Speaker 1: when this works. You know, these international calls don't always

0:18 Speaker 1: go as planned. Welcome to the show, Welcome back, I

0:20 Speaker 1: should say. I know you've been on before, but it's

0:22 Speaker 1: been a while since we've talked. Uh, who do we have?

0:25 Speaker 1: Who do we have with us from the band?

0:27 Speaker 2: Full house, all of us?

0:29 Speaker 3: Oh?

0:29 Speaker 1: Nice, nice, wonderful. So how are things, Uh, how are

0:32 Speaker 1: things going over there? Says what did we talk last?

0:35 Speaker 1: It's been a few months, right, I think we talked

0:37 Speaker 1: after the release of Fallen. Was the last time we

0:41 Speaker 1: had you on? Correct?

0:43 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was a July definitely in the year, wasn't it.

0:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, loads of gigs spinning the studio, festivals, stock.

0:56 Speaker 1: Too, wonderful, wonderful, So you had to you had a

0:59 Speaker 1: busy summer.

1:00 Speaker 5: It sounds like, hell, yeah, it's been it's been great.

1:04 Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding. Tell me about tell me about festivals. What

1:08 Speaker 1: what festivals have you done? Because I always say festivals

1:11 Speaker 1: are such a fantastic opportunity for for bands, especially younger

1:15 Speaker 1: new bands like you, new were bands like you, because

1:19 Speaker 1: not only does it get you in front of audiences,

1:21 Speaker 1: large audiences that might not otherwise come across you, but

1:24 Speaker 1: it's also such a fantastic networking opportunity too. You know,

1:28 Speaker 1: you get in front of new fans, but you also

1:29 Speaker 1: get in front of of people in the industry and

1:32 Speaker 1: and other artists that you might work with in the

1:34 Speaker 1: future or have worked with in the past. Even But

1:37 Speaker 1: what what are some of the festivals that y'all did

1:39 Speaker 1: this past summer.

1:42 Speaker 2: We've done a couple.

1:43 Speaker 6: I mean, the most most memorable for us is because

1:45 Speaker 6: we made a weekend out at Isle of Wight Festival.

1:48 Speaker 6: So we'll drive down hop on the ferry and then

1:52 Speaker 6: head into Islow eight and that was a full weekend,

1:55 Speaker 6: well just all of it, but the all weekend. Yeah,

2:00 Speaker 6: we brought some posters down with us and just meeting

2:02 Speaker 6: a loads of people and chatting about the band and

2:04 Speaker 6: just made it really personal to no seeing them come

2:08 Speaker 6: down to the show and never even there of us,

2:10 Speaker 6: and then they just meet us with a post say

2:12 Speaker 6: come to our show, please come We got some.

2:15 Speaker 3: Nice messages after that as well, people, and we've had

2:17 Speaker 3: a few comments on things on YouTube and stuff saying,

2:19 Speaker 3: you know, like this was a really nice thank you

2:22 Speaker 3: for coming and saying all those us was so glad

2:23 Speaker 3: we caught your set and stuff.

2:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes to show that that human interactions still

2:31 Speaker 4: goes a long way, like oh, definitely.

2:33 Speaker 1: That's a yeah. And that's a good reminder too, because

2:36 Speaker 1: as Ai continues to uh to take hold of you know, especially,

2:40 Speaker 1: I mean, it affects everything, but it certainly is effecting

2:42 Speaker 1: the music industry. So uh, that's a good thing to

2:45 Speaker 1: remind people about the importance of human interaction, especially when

2:48 Speaker 1: it comes to music or any kind of art that

2:50 Speaker 1: you're making. How does a piece of you must go

2:53 Speaker 1: over really well live? I would imagine the song's got

2:55 Speaker 1: such a great energy about it. I just love it

2:59 Speaker 1: so much. How does that go over? How does that

3:01 Speaker 1: go over live? Because I would imagine, I mean, do

3:03 Speaker 1: you do you open or close your set with it?

3:05 Speaker 1: Or where do you put it in the set?

3:07 Speaker 5: It's usually second, doesn't it?

3:08 Speaker 2: Yeah? Seconds?

3:10 Speaker 6: And then it's it's a little bit heavier than some

3:12 Speaker 6: of the other stuff that we've done. So we before

3:15 Speaker 6: we were unsure on how it will go down, but

3:18 Speaker 6: the reaction to it's been really good so far.

3:21 Speaker 2: It's made mistake. Should we just go a bit heavy? Right? Right?

3:28 Speaker 5: Gets the people.

3:28 Speaker 1: Going like it is a little more aggressive than the

3:31 Speaker 1: other songs. But I love it. I love it. There's

3:33 Speaker 1: almost this is you know what I hear? What I

3:36 Speaker 1: hear in that song. There's almost like a sort of

3:38 Speaker 1: a desperation to it and and earnestness maybe that's a

3:42 Speaker 1: better word. Who wrote that? Who in the bed did

3:45 Speaker 1: you all write that together? Or who wrote the song?

3:49 Speaker 4: So the the instruments are a team effort, like everyone

3:54 Speaker 4: puts the bits on it, and Matt and my hello.

4:00 Speaker 5: Wrote the lyrics for it.

4:01 Speaker 4: And for me, it's basically like sort of it's about

4:06 Speaker 4: about getting revenge basically, but but knowing and being aware

4:11 Speaker 4: enough to know that it's not the right thing to do. Yeah,

4:14 Speaker 4: So it's it's tackling trying to tackle the sort of

4:18 Speaker 4: thoughts and the feelings that you get when you've been

4:20 Speaker 4: wronged and you want to you want to get revenge

4:22 Speaker 4: on people who've done done you wrong, but you know

4:26 Speaker 4: better effectively and just trying to trying to grapple with

4:28 Speaker 4: that and trying to move forward with that. And like

4:32 Speaker 4: I've I've been on a bit of a journey personally

4:34 Speaker 4: of trying to look after myself a little bit more

4:37 Speaker 4: and trying to trying to live life a little bit

4:40 Speaker 4: healthier and things like that and be a bit more positive.

4:43 Speaker 4: So it's really sort of it's a it's a it's

4:46 Speaker 4: a time capsual for me lyrically, and in that respect.

4:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's really good and

4:53 Speaker 1: I think that you know, the theme that you just described,

4:55 Speaker 1: I think is universal. I think we've all had moments

4:57 Speaker 1: like that, situations where you know what you're thinking about,

5:01 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get revenge on somebody, and you know,

5:03 Speaker 1: as you get older, you learn you know, really the

5:04 Speaker 1: best revenge is living well and being successful. But but

5:07 Speaker 1: but we certainly have, we certainly have those situations occur,

5:12 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Now what what what is the

5:16 Speaker 1: what is the plan? I mean, you know, you've released

5:17 Speaker 1: some great singles and I think I think one of you,

5:22 Speaker 1: at the start of our conversation said something about being

5:24 Speaker 1: in the studio. Are you working on an album or

5:26 Speaker 1: do you have another single? You're working on or what's

5:28 Speaker 1: kind of the future plan.

5:31 Speaker 4: So we have we have another one sort of in

5:35 Speaker 4: the chamber, ready ready to fire, and then we're going

5:39 Speaker 4: we're going back in the studio on Monday actually to

5:44 Speaker 4: do another one to follow that up, and then if

5:47 Speaker 4: all goes well, next year, I think we'd really like

5:50 Speaker 4: to do an album. I feel like we're at that

5:52 Speaker 4: sort of point as a band where we kind of

5:55 Speaker 4: want to do that, but it's just a case of

5:57 Speaker 4: whether we can make it happen.

5:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, the time, the time tying, I love to oh.

6:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I you know, I'm old enough

6:07 Speaker 1: to remember when it was you know, you release an

6:10 Speaker 1: album and then first single goes to radio six eight

6:13 Speaker 1: weeks before the album comes out, and then if everything

6:15 Speaker 1: goes well, you know, you release the album, and then

6:17 Speaker 1: if everything goes well, you get a second single and

6:19 Speaker 1: and maybe a third single and so forth. But today

6:21 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to release music, and yeah,

6:24 Speaker 1: a lot of the guests that we have on the

6:25 Speaker 1: show in these times are are just doing a series

6:29 Speaker 1: of singles and just kind of seeing which does keep

6:31 Speaker 1: you well engaged, you know, in terms of the algorithms

6:35 Speaker 1: with social media and whatnot if you're you know, because

6:38 Speaker 1: you release, if you release an album, you know, you

6:41 Speaker 1: get that big bump from that, and then you don't

6:44 Speaker 1: necessarily depending on what happens after that, you don't necessarily

6:48 Speaker 1: get get a lot of traction on social media. But

6:50 Speaker 1: releasing a series of singles and maybe when you do,

6:53 Speaker 1: if the goal is to do an album, will the

6:55 Speaker 1: singles Maybe I haven't thought this far ahead, but I'll

6:58 Speaker 1: just ask you, will the singles that you've released so

7:00 Speaker 1: far be a part of that album or will the

7:01 Speaker 1: will the album be a completely separate thing? Do you think?

7:05 Speaker 3: And I think there might be one or two that

7:07 Speaker 3: have to be Yeah, Yeah, there something that we have

7:10 Speaker 3: talked about re recording and the like.

7:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's tunes that we've.

7:14 Speaker 3: Got in the set that we've had for years that

7:17 Speaker 3: we would like. We've always said that's going on the album.

7:20 Speaker 4: They've sort of as we've played them over the years,

7:22 Speaker 4: they've they've evolved into not new songs.

7:25 Speaker 5: But they're definitely.

7:28 Speaker 4: And they're sort of different in their versions and and

7:32 Speaker 4: how we sort of play them. And Yeah, the standard

7:35 Speaker 4: that we're right now as a band, we'd love to

7:37 Speaker 4: sort of get back in the studio and redo them

7:40 Speaker 4: and do them to the standard that that we could

7:43 Speaker 4: do them to now would be really cool.

7:45 Speaker 1: That makes sense. And to be able to do them

7:47 Speaker 1: too with the current lineup, right, because Rush, you've been

7:49 Speaker 1: in the band for a while just you joined this

7:52 Speaker 1: year correct.

7:54 Speaker 7: Yeah, I joined like kind of towards the end of April,

7:56 Speaker 7: so what like sexally seven months, so it's fairly recent. Well,

8:02 Speaker 7: it feels like I've been here forever.

8:04 Speaker 1: That's good, that's good. Yeah.

8:09 Speaker 3: It was a funny moment where because we said we'll

8:11 Speaker 3: do like a little trial period Shaw we get on

8:13 Speaker 3: you know, for all Joe and that, and then we

8:15 Speaker 3: came to the end of that trial period and basically

8:20 Speaker 3: like Rush came in and went, so, are we gonna

8:23 Speaker 3: have a discussion about you know, like being being in

8:26 Speaker 3: the band and stuff, And we just went, oh, we thought.

8:29 Speaker 2: You were in.

8:32 Speaker 7: Plan And I was like, you know, it's the trials

8:34 Speaker 7: coming to and they're like, okay, break it up and

8:39 Speaker 7: be like, you know.

8:40 Speaker 4: What am I in?

8:43 Speaker 2: We're still in trial. Didn't realize.

8:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, But that's how you know it's a

8:48 Speaker 1: good fit, right when when some of you didn't even

8:50 Speaker 1: you know, give it another thought. It was just like, oh, yeah,

8:52 Speaker 1: this makes sense, and then but it's good.

8:56 Speaker 2: That was the big giveaway for us. Now we were like, yeah,

8:58 Speaker 2: definitely the one.

9:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's excellent. That's excellent going into I mean

9:04 Speaker 1: now that we're jeez, I can't believe it's already almost

9:06 Speaker 1: the end of October? Are you? Are you still playing

9:08 Speaker 1: a lot of shows? As I know in the United States,

9:11 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of bands, they kind of

9:14 Speaker 1: they don't go into hibernation. They're still working, but they

9:17 Speaker 1: kind of use, at least in this part of the

9:18 Speaker 1: country where it gets cold in the winter, they kind

9:20 Speaker 1: of use winter time to maybe focus more on recording

9:24 Speaker 1: because traveling isn't so great when it's snowing and icy out.

9:28 Speaker 1: But I mean, what, what's kind of your plan? Are

9:30 Speaker 1: you still playing a lot of shows now? Do you

9:31 Speaker 1: plan to play through the winter or I don't even

9:33 Speaker 1: know what the winter is like exactly where you are.

9:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not it's not great. It's definitely wet.

9:39 Speaker 6: Ye've got a couple to see us out, But that's

9:44 Speaker 6: the plan for those as well, to be honest, do

9:46 Speaker 6: some bits behind the scenes and they out again next year.

9:49 Speaker 6: So we've got two Liverpool shows, you know, one on

9:51 Speaker 6: Halloween which will all go in this pilots.

9:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, we want we want everyone to everyone.

9:58 Speaker 6: Rib Crews taking a nice and we've got there on

10:03 Speaker 6: the sixth of December as well, which was really good,

10:06 Speaker 6: really good line up on that. So we're looking forward

10:08 Speaker 6: to that and you know, who knows something some might

10:11 Speaker 6: come our way.

10:11 Speaker 2: I don't know.

10:12 Speaker 6: I was just squeeze in there, but at the moment

10:15 Speaker 6: definitely slowed down a little bit.

10:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we want to focus only on writing

10:20 Speaker 3: for next year.

10:21 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. Oh by the way too, I wanted to

10:24 Speaker 1: circle back to a piece of you for a moment.

10:26 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about the video because I love

10:29 Speaker 1: the video. It's really really cool. I like that. I

10:32 Speaker 1: really dig the whole aesthetic of it, and and I

10:34 Speaker 1: was just curious if that was something that you all

10:37 Speaker 1: did on your own, or if you worked with with somebody,

10:40 Speaker 1: or how did the video come about.

10:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite funny.

10:46 Speaker 6: It was just kind of yeah, yeah, it was kind

10:53 Speaker 6: of it was just an idea that come to us

10:55 Speaker 6: and we went, what's the best and cheapest way we

10:57 Speaker 6: can do this?

10:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it ended up being Matt in the alley.

11:03 Speaker 6: We're holding the hose pipe over his head on the

11:06 Speaker 6: waterfall mode and one of.

11:09 Speaker 2: Us fell in with it and that was it and

11:11 Speaker 2: stick it in black and White's good to go.

11:13 Speaker 3: Well, you can't see behind the cameras me and was

11:15 Speaker 3: in suits because we just come from where Yeah he's

11:18 Speaker 3: old pipe molding the camera and.

11:21 Speaker 5: Post just laughing at me while I'm shivering. End right,

11:28 Speaker 5: it's a good idea for like shark time called dragons

11:31 Speaker 5: then no warm hose pipes.

11:35 Speaker 1: Well, if you go down, I mean, if you can,

11:38 Speaker 1: if you can come up with something that that is cheap,

11:40 Speaker 1: you know, but but still looks cool, then you've got

11:43 Speaker 1: something right, you know what I mean.

11:47 Speaker 2: That's some really good some good feedback.

11:49 Speaker 1: Yeah.

11:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, videos cost us a few quids.

11:55 Speaker 5: Yeah that was maybe three pounds.

11:59 Speaker 1: There you go. Oh you've also got this is cool too,

12:02 Speaker 1: by the way, and I want our listeners to know

12:04 Speaker 1: about this on YouTube. The piece of you Rivia in

12:08 Speaker 1: Matchbox Studio is a live recording and this is really

12:10 Speaker 1: good too. This is really cool, Thank you, Sean.

12:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, we love those guys.

12:15 Speaker 6: Batchbox are great over there, and you've got an amazing

12:20 Speaker 6: studio the recording as well as well as all the

12:22 Speaker 6: video stuff the package. Man, Yeah, the spot on make

12:26 Speaker 6: really nice lads.

12:27 Speaker 2: That was a good day.

12:28 Speaker 6: Every done Falling there as well. Yeah, so yeah, that's

12:32 Speaker 6: really good.

12:33 Speaker 1: Do you intend to continue to work with them?

12:36 Speaker 2: Yeah?

12:36 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, Yeah, yeah I did the live The live

12:39 Speaker 3: videos are great with them and they do go down well.

12:42 Speaker 3: Falling Us now you can know, go and see that

12:44 Speaker 3: on the on YouTube as well.

12:46 Speaker 2: Ready to go.

12:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if anybody listening, it's only on YouTube. You

12:49 Speaker 3: can see the full thing if you want to go see.

12:51 Speaker 2: It, but we'd recommend them. That's to anyone for videos

12:54 Speaker 2: or the fantastic.

12:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Oh there's also two Falling. There's this

13:00 Speaker 1: this acoustic version live from Northwest Connection that's also very

13:05 Speaker 1: very cool. We're going to play actually at the end

13:07 Speaker 1: of our conversation today too, we're going to play Falling

13:09 Speaker 1: to close out Side because that's another that's another great,

13:11 Speaker 1: great track.

13:12 Speaker 2: But I forgot me to that was the boss.

13:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it looks like there's only three

13:21 Speaker 1: of you there, but the the oh this was yeah

13:24 Speaker 1: live from Northwest Connect. What is Northwest Connection?

13:28 Speaker 2: So that those guys.

13:29 Speaker 5: With the same talents as that.

13:33 Speaker 6: Can't remember the exact location, but it's a really cool spot.

13:37 Speaker 2: A radio station, a podcast.

13:40 Speaker 8: Mm hmmm, so we were we were on the podcast

13:43 Speaker 8: where we had a good, good shot for a good

13:46 Speaker 8: forty five minutes.

13:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of tubes, Yeah, good luck with them.

13:53 Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice.

13:54 Speaker 4: So what.

13:56 Speaker 1: I know I've asked you this question before the last

13:59 Speaker 1: time we talked, but for were listeners, are people who

14:00 Speaker 1: aren't familiar with you tell us about the name? I'm

14:03 Speaker 1: sure this is probably you probably hate this question because

14:06 Speaker 1: you probably get asked this question every single day of

14:08 Speaker 1: your lives. But what does that? What does Rivia mean?

14:13 Speaker 4: It's it's from It's from the Witcher if if you

14:17 Speaker 4: know what that is. It's a it was a series

14:20 Speaker 4: of books that got turned into video games that's now

14:23 Speaker 4: a crappy Netflix show. Yeah, and basically the main guy

14:28 Speaker 4: and it's called Garrels of Rivia.

14:30 Speaker 8: And when we were when we were making the band,

14:33 Speaker 8: I really I fell in love with this character. Basically,

14:35 Speaker 8: I just thought he was the coolest dude ever. And

14:38 Speaker 8: I was like, Riva is a really cool name. And

14:40 Speaker 8: then I was like, are there any other bands called Rivia?

14:43 Speaker 5: And look through the.

14:44 Speaker 8: Fire Instagram like every sort of music thing you can find,

14:48 Speaker 8: and there was no bands called Rivia, so we were like, well,

14:51 Speaker 8: that's that's a good start. The rarely condensed version of

14:57 Speaker 8: the story is he's in the sort of books. He's

15:00 Speaker 8: not actually from there. He sort of goes there and

15:03 Speaker 8: he saves them and they accept him.

15:07 Speaker 2: And I thought it was.

15:07 Speaker 8: Really cool, the idea of like, it doesn't matter where

15:10 Speaker 8: you come from, it's what you do that defines who

15:12 Speaker 8: you are.

15:13 Speaker 1: Yes, I like that. I like that very much. That

15:17 Speaker 1: is that's excellent. So what is now? What's kind of

15:20 Speaker 1: the short term? Do you do you have where's your

15:23 Speaker 1: Obviously we're in the United States, but we have listeners everywhere.

15:27 Speaker 1: When is when is your next show? When do you

15:29 Speaker 1: do you have anything this weekend that you're doing that

15:31 Speaker 1: you're playing?

15:33 Speaker 2: Is it next next Halloween? And we will be pirates? Yeah.

15:41 Speaker 6: So that's in Liverpool Cosmia stock Room, Saty First Report

15:45 Speaker 6: and the band called Holy Cove so a Welsh I believe.

15:48 Speaker 2: In the great bands.

15:50 Speaker 6: Looking forward to getting down seeing them there.

15:53 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, And then uh, where should people go online?

15:56 Speaker 1: Where's the best place for people to go to keep

15:58 Speaker 1: up with everything that Rivia is.

15:59 Speaker 6: Doing Instagram definitely, definitely Instagram at Rivia top and most

16:06 Speaker 6: of our stuff goes there, was putting up stories of

16:08 Speaker 6: what we're up to as well.

16:09 Speaker 3: So we've got all the other we've got like TikTok

16:11 Speaker 3: you too, You've got Twitter and stuff, all of them all,

16:15 Speaker 3: but our main sort of go to is his Instagram.

16:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you like nonsensical quotes and there is the

16:22 Speaker 4: place to go.

16:23 Speaker 3: Was Ho can full control of the Twitter and he

16:25 Speaker 3: does just put his thoughts out there.

16:27 Speaker 2: Yes, all welcome, you're go ahead.

16:33 Speaker 3: I was gonna say our TikTok's more like our behind

16:35 Speaker 3: the scenes stuff, isn't it Like he still having a

16:37 Speaker 3: bit of fun silly stuff.

16:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's excellent. Well, your social media game is

16:42 Speaker 1: strong and that's very very important of course, uh these days.

16:46 Speaker 1: So I commend you for that. And that's excellent And yeah.

16:50 Speaker 2: Thanks man. We've been working on that a lot this year,

16:52 Speaker 2: so appreciate that.

16:53 Speaker 5: I think we've got Rush to thank for a lot

16:55 Speaker 5: of that.

16:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely saved us.

16:59 Speaker 1: Excellent hard work.

17:00 Speaker 2: For me.

17:00 Speaker 7: It is stock hard work, like you know, thinking and

17:02 Speaker 7: stuff and then just having the time to like film

17:05 Speaker 7: it and the then edit stuff.

17:06 Speaker 6: It's hard, is it?

17:07 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well, it's just it's.

17:09 Speaker 7: So important today, Like it's just a massive part of

17:12 Speaker 7: the music industry and I so.

17:13 Speaker 1: Right right because you're you're doing it all yourselves too, right,

17:16 Speaker 1: You're or do you have a label that you work

17:18 Speaker 1: with or is this all the I y, that's all

17:21 Speaker 1: the warm one. Yeah, that's what.

17:24 Speaker 6: We've got managers of management engineering from. We believe that

17:28 Speaker 6: love those guys the bits. In terms of social media, yeah,

17:32 Speaker 6: that's unfortunately just.

17:36 Speaker 1: Well unfortunately in the sense that it's a lot of work, right,

17:40 Speaker 1: but fortunately in the sense that that gives you maximum control,

17:43 Speaker 1: total control really over what you're putting out there and

17:46 Speaker 1: in terms of your image and everything, and that that

17:48 Speaker 1: can be that can be a wonderful thing to have

17:50 Speaker 1: that kind of autonomy. So that's that's.

17:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit more personal for social media now.

17:55 Speaker 3: That's kind of like we talk, isn't it.

17:57 Speaker 1: Yeah.

17:58 Speaker 2: We used to really struggle with like what what should

18:00 Speaker 2: we put off?

18:00 Speaker 3: And then we've realized we put it everyone, so yeah,

18:03 Speaker 3: ourselves exactly.

18:06 Speaker 1: It's it's easy to overthink it, but once you once

18:09 Speaker 1: you realize you know your fans, they just want engagement.

18:12 Speaker 1: So whatever you can put out there, you know, and

18:14 Speaker 1: and uh and if they don't like it, whatever, they'll

18:17 Speaker 1: ignore it. But if they do like it, then uh great,

18:19 Speaker 1: you know, then you've you've created that engagement that is

18:22 Speaker 1: absolutely critical to being successful in the music industry today.

18:25 Speaker 1: So uh so, yeah, absolutely, I commend you on that. Well, listen,

18:29 Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll uh, we'll let you go. We're gonna

18:31 Speaker 1: get to this track. We're gonna play Fallen to close

18:34 Speaker 1: out the segment, another great song.

18:36 Speaker 2: Uh.

18:36 Speaker 1: But I do want to thank all of you, Matt, Warren, Rash, Chris,

18:38 Speaker 1: thank you all.

18:40 Speaker 7: You know.

18:40 Speaker 1: It doesn't always work out where we get an entire

18:42 Speaker 1: band on all at once, so I appreciate that. Absolutely.

18:49 Speaker 1: We'll do it again and keep us posted on when

18:51 Speaker 1: the next single is ready to and and we'll uh

18:53 Speaker 1: we'll give it. We'll give it a spin here of

18:55 Speaker 1: course always and uh and we'll have you back on

18:57 Speaker 1: to talk about it and uh and I wish you

18:59 Speaker 1: continued to success. And thanks for joining us today.

19:02 Speaker 5: Thank you, so thank you so much.

19:04 Speaker 2: Touching about it.

19:05 Speaker 1: All right, Rivia, thank you. We'll talk to you soon.

19:07 Speaker 1: Take care, bye bye. All right, that is the members

19:13 Speaker 1: of the band Rivia, and we're going to close out

19:16 Speaker 1: our conversation, UH with this track. This is another great single.

19:19 Speaker 1: We were the first American radio station to play this.

19:21 Speaker 1: Of course, this is Fallen