Benthic Realm | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: We have Benthic Realm here live in studio with us,

0:03 Speaker 1: and what we're gonna do now, they're gonna play live.

0:05 Speaker 1: They're gonna do a few songs live, and then we're

0:06 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna talk a little bit afterward, which will

0:09 Speaker 1: be cool, very interested to learn more about their music.

0:12 Speaker 1: But I'm going to start. Let's see, let's get these

0:14 Speaker 1: mics up here. We have one person with a vocal mic,

0:18 Speaker 1: so tell us, uh, if you could, who you are,

0:21 Speaker 1: what you do in the band, and then I'll let

0:22 Speaker 1: you introduce the other two members.

0:25 Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for having us. We're super stoked to be here.

0:28 Speaker 2: So I'm Krista. I am the guitar player and singer

0:31 Speaker 2: in Benthic Realm. And we also have Maureen here on

0:35 Speaker 2: bass and Dan on drums. Today he's actually gonna be

0:38 Speaker 2: playing the cajone okay, as we're doing an acoustic set.

0:42 Speaker 1: Very cool, and a tambourine, and.

0:45 Speaker 2: He's pointing out that she wants everyone to know there's

0:47 Speaker 2: a tambourine in the room.

0:48 Speaker 1: Oh wonderful, wonderful. Uh, So Christ can you play the

0:52 Speaker 1: guitar a little bit, just want to make sure we

0:54 Speaker 1: can hear. Oh that sounds nice. That sounds nice, okay,

1:00 Speaker 1: and then Maureen, can you play that bass a little bit,

1:06 Speaker 1: sounds really good, sounds really good. And then uh yeah,

1:10 Speaker 1: can let's hear something something that go home. I'm gonna

1:15 Speaker 1: pull this mike up a little bit, make sure, oh yeah,

1:18 Speaker 1: that sounds good, that sounds really good. And then can

1:21 Speaker 1: you all just kind of play a little bit of

1:22 Speaker 1: something together, and before u before you jump into an

1:25 Speaker 1: actual full song, I just want to make sure we're

1:28 Speaker 1: sounding good here. Can you sing a little something christa.

1:41 Speaker 3: Cheer Less to control joh takes me where it wants

1:56 Speaker 3: to go?

1:58 Speaker 1: Manama, Hi, sounds good, sounds good. I think we're ready.

2:08 Speaker 1: I think we're ready, all right. So if you're just

2:10 Speaker 1: joining us, Benthic Realm is here live in studio, and

2:14 Speaker 1: you're gonna do three songs, three songs, three songs, all right,

2:18 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna talk and really looking forward to this,

2:20 Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing you live. So yeah, whenever you're ready,

2:22 Speaker 1: just go for it. Awesome.

2:26 Speaker 2: So this is an acoustic version of our song Vessel

2:29 Speaker 2: that it's on our last release, power Less to Control.

2:59 Speaker 4: The tat takes me where it.

3:01 Speaker 5: Once to word.

3:04 Speaker 4: But I'm a lad.

3:08 Speaker 6: Life been straining out your bota got sure that I

3:21 Speaker 6: was heady the way.

3:24 Speaker 4: But as I believe.

3:36 Speaker 7: My body is a Venci.

3:40 Speaker 4: Speaks to me, ceves me. People who gaves have believe.

3:50 Speaker 6: My body is a vessel, caps me safe, gives me.

3:58 Speaker 8: Cold.

4:21 Speaker 4: It wasn't easy, scared.

4:28 Speaker 6: When they listen, made a ship to take.

4:34 Speaker 9: But Asia has chaos. Come to the Knight.

4:49 Speaker 6: A car escaped without a fine, and I'm.

5:03 Speaker 10: I believe.

5:06 Speaker 4: My body is a vessel. Speaks to me cause me

5:15 Speaker 4: forks have believe my body is a vessel.

5:24 Speaker 7: Here's me saved, kiss.

5:27 Speaker 4: Me cold.

6:06 Speaker 5: At eight. I believe.

7:19 Speaker 4: Body isn't that.

7:21 Speaker 11: So speaks mexuse me, pocus, I believe.

7:34 Speaker 4: My body is of that. So keus me saved.

7:39 Speaker 7: Keuse me cause keeps me.

7:53 Speaker 1: Cause nice if you're just joining us. We have benthic

8:36 Speaker 1: realm here live in studio sounding great. Good job everybody. Yeah,

8:41 Speaker 1: wait to hear the next one whenever you're ready.

8:44 Speaker 4: All right, This next.

8:46 Speaker 2: One is Adid Burns. Never has the womb closed off,

9:36 Speaker 2: Never have nine duties.

9:43 Speaker 4: Tragedies. We witness o the Red.

9:49 Speaker 12: Century. We build over watches, we build up.

10:08 Speaker 13: To a lead show the fory and set people rely,

10:22 Speaker 13: has it.

10:29 Speaker 5: Watch you? Has it.

10:42 Speaker 14: Watching money? And vowela drive the auntisi shoon sending a

11:18 Speaker 14: common man dime. On the bridges.

11:30 Speaker 12: They hold open grandera.

11:37 Speaker 4: They stop. Also place.

11:43 Speaker 13: Please stays, say fa stayed while they sign the sack

11:49 Speaker 13: you drive?

11:56 Speaker 5: Has it wat tru? How's you bad.

12:17 Speaker 4: Wat? True bad.

13:22 Speaker 15: Boot but doomed to make the same mistakes?

14:09 Speaker 4: No big toy had the side casualties.

14:18 Speaker 13: They had all well draining halls up.

14:29 Speaker 5: Has it watch you? Has it watch you go?

14:57 Speaker 16: Ha?

15:15 Speaker 17: M h.

15:40 Speaker 1: Wow. What what's that one called? That's as it burns?

15:43 Speaker 1: As it burns me?

15:45 Speaker 4: Do your work?

15:45 Speaker 2: They're working that mic.

15:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was great. That was great, really good.

15:50 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, we have benthic realm here

15:52 Speaker 1: with us live in studio and uh no, that's intense.

15:56 Speaker 1: I like the lyrics. I think, I think I know

15:58 Speaker 1: what that what's about? That's for sure?

16:00 Speaker 16: Yeah?

16:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, really good, really good. And then you can play

16:04 Speaker 1: you can play one more for us, that is correct?

16:08 Speaker 1: Is this unusual? By the way, doing an acoustic set

16:10 Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning at eleven am?

16:13 Speaker 2: Very very different. We have played acoustic live once earlier

16:19 Speaker 2: in February, Americ Old Theater.

16:21 Speaker 1: Oh excellent.

16:21 Speaker 2: That was the first time that we played that live,

16:23 Speaker 2: so with a full set. Yeah, this is definitely an

16:26 Speaker 2: experience on a Saturday morning.

16:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, all right, whenever you're ready.

16:32 Speaker 2: All right, you're good, all right. So this, this next

16:34 Speaker 2: song is called fade Away. This is a song that

16:38 Speaker 2: we've performed live a couple of different times, and we

16:40 Speaker 2: have done this acoustically before. But it's not recorded live

16:44 Speaker 2: yet anywhere on any album, so you'll have to stay

16:46 Speaker 2: tuned for recording maybe next year. All right, This is

16:52 Speaker 2: fade away, A faid.

17:38 Speaker 4: Away into the what smell to me? It's just a man,

18:15 Speaker 4: a sweet boy win no.

18:28 Speaker 1: Sound Well, I'm.

18:40 Speaker 10: No longer to to grown.

19:01 Speaker 4: Before can never be found the head on this battle

19:24 Speaker 4: ground stay for years?

19:57 Speaker 16: Ha it.

20:05 Speaker 4: Finds man suit.

20:12 Speaker 10: It could only get better, So.

20:34 Speaker 4: Moved on with that.

20:47 Speaker 18: The s.

20:54 Speaker 4: A me a decision. What worlds bear? Can never be.

21:22 Speaker 19: Found as probably head homeless battle round?

21:53 Speaker 5: M h.

22:09 Speaker 8: M hmmmm, whid.

22:40 Speaker 4: Before can double beard bound?

22:55 Speaker 5: Where I was from?

23:01 Speaker 8: Home?

23:01 Speaker 4: This battle Home, this battle round?

23:24 Speaker 16: I love it.

23:24 Speaker 1: I love it. Benthic realm live in studio. We're gonna

23:28 Speaker 1: need to play a studio track. This is called course

23:31 Speaker 1: correct here on Matt Connorton unleashed. Let's give this a

23:34 Speaker 1: spend and then we're gonna we're gonna talk to these

23:36 Speaker 1: fine folks. Really looking forward to that. Plenty more to come.

23:39 Speaker 1: Stick around here. It is course correct by Benthic Realm.

23:44 Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't hear anything, and I apologize, let

23:46 Speaker 1: me fix that, let me back that up. Here we

23:52 Speaker 1: go this time, I promise, yes said, I'm cool.

24:39 Speaker 10: Don't you know where we're go?

24:41 Speaker 16: Go?

24:41 Speaker 8: No way?

24:44 Speaker 6: Not sure?

24:47 Speaker 20: You know?

24:47 Speaker 5: Way? Well?

24:48 Speaker 21: Be well?

25:00 Speaker 5: So nice?

25:01 Speaker 22: I haven't able day.

25:05 Speaker 16: So bad bird.

25:25 Speaker 8: To of.

25:31 Speaker 1: So you take a ball to.

25:37 Speaker 18: So way?

25:44 Speaker 21: How trying?

25:49 Speaker 22: M m, it's say man's turn, but your.

26:32 Speaker 4: Just spell.

26:33 Speaker 22: I haven't know what does mos?

26:37 Speaker 20: When will we got bad? Comes bout tell me real,

26:53 Speaker 20: don't sensitize.

26:57 Speaker 21: Don't know man's man.

27:01 Speaker 10: To wool.

27:18 Speaker 21: Three?

27:18 Speaker 4: Then out.

27:23 Speaker 21: So we taken a long three ll always.

27:36 Speaker 5: How well?

27:38 Speaker 8: Time?

29:05 Speaker 18: M we been.

29:52 Speaker 21: Well at a time.

30:13 Speaker 23: Oh that is so good.

30:45 Speaker 1: We just heard course correct. The band is Benthic Realm

30:48 Speaker 1: and we've got let's see so we have Dan, Christa

30:51 Speaker 1: and Maureen here with us live in studio. If you

30:53 Speaker 1: missed it, they displayed live, so if you did miss it,

30:56 Speaker 1: you'll have to go back and uh and give it

30:58 Speaker 1: a listen. It sounded great, but and I love that

31:01 Speaker 1: studio track too. Course grek really good. So welcome everybody.

31:04 Speaker 1: Is it always the three of you? Are there any

31:06 Speaker 1: other members of the band who aren't here or just

31:08 Speaker 1: the three of us? You got a big sound for

31:10 Speaker 1: three people. That's really cool. That's really cool. And how

31:14 Speaker 1: do you describe I mean, is it what do you

31:15 Speaker 1: call it? Doom? I mean, what do you call how

31:17 Speaker 1: do you everyone always Hayt's this question, but in terms

31:20 Speaker 1: of genre, how do you describe what you do?

31:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, we call it melodic doom metal.

31:24 Speaker 1: Melodic doom metal, yeah, because we're.

31:26 Speaker 2: Not the classic just you know, just kind of drony,

31:30 Speaker 2: kind of you know, always at one ruhthum, you know,

31:33 Speaker 2: or one beast for a minute, I guess. Yeah, we

31:36 Speaker 2: kind of like to try to mix it up. So

31:38 Speaker 2: we all listen to heavy metal as well, so there's

31:40 Speaker 2: going to be a little bit of that influence in it.

31:42 Speaker 4: Yeah.

31:43 Speaker 1: And how long has Benthic Ground existed? How long have

31:45 Speaker 1: you been a band?

31:46 Speaker 2: So we started this band in twenty sixteen, okay, and

31:49 Speaker 2: we actually started with a different drummer. He was in

31:51 Speaker 2: the Brian was in the band with us for I

31:53 Speaker 2: think about two years, and then he and his wife

31:55 Speaker 2: actually moved out to California. Oh, so, Dan, who has

31:59 Speaker 2: been a friend for quite some time, also plays in

32:01 Speaker 2: the band Conclave with a bunch of other friends of ours.

32:04 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm familiar with content. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

32:07 Speaker 2: So he like raised his hand and said, I'd love

32:11 Speaker 2: to come play with you guys, and we said, yeah, sure, okay.

32:13 Speaker 2: So we had a rehearsal and we knew. We knew

32:17 Speaker 2: about three minutes.

32:18 Speaker 1: In excellent, excellent, And then Maureen, have you been here

32:22 Speaker 1: from the beginning or are you are you an original member?

32:24 Speaker 1: Or oh you gotta pull mic right up to you. Yeah, okay, okay,

32:29 Speaker 1: very good. So I'm curious about well, actually, let me

32:34 Speaker 1: ask you this. I'm sure you get this question all

32:36 Speaker 1: the time, but not to be cliche, but what does

32:38 Speaker 1: benthic realm mean?

32:41 Speaker 2: So, for all of you oceanographers and people who love

32:45 Speaker 2: the sea, the benthic realm is actually the lowest area

32:49 Speaker 2: in the ocean, the bottom of the ocean where all

32:52 Speaker 2: of those crazy sea creatures live. That have like like

32:55 Speaker 2: glowing tentacles and that kind of stuff. Okay, And when

32:58 Speaker 2: we were trying to come up with an for this,

33:00 Speaker 2: we had a bunch of ones that we were tossing around.

33:02 Speaker 2: We really liked this concept because we knew, okay, if

33:06 Speaker 2: we call the band benthic realm, there's a lot of

33:08 Speaker 2: material we can pull out of this, from also underwater

33:11 Speaker 2: adventures to adventures above the ocean on top of it

33:14 Speaker 2: different you know, pirate ships and all sorts of stuff.

33:17 Speaker 2: So it really lent itself to being able to just

33:20 Speaker 2: really experiment with with you know what we wanted to

33:24 Speaker 2: do in terms of different material.

33:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of our songs and what in terms of

33:30 Speaker 1: who writes the lyrics? You write the lyrics? Yes, oh,

33:33 Speaker 1: what can you talk a little bit about the lyrical

33:35 Speaker 1: content and some of the themes? I mean one of

33:37 Speaker 1: them and I made the comment on the ear sid

33:38 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. There's obviously about war. Yeah,

33:41 Speaker 1: which one was that? So that's as it burns as

33:43 Speaker 1: it burns? Yeah, I like that one a lot. I

33:46 Speaker 1: like them all, but like, are those kinds of I mean,

33:51 Speaker 1: that's probably a bit. You probably have more than one

33:52 Speaker 1: song about that, right, because it's it's something that's at

33:55 Speaker 1: the forefront of our minds. Uh, But I mean, what else,

33:59 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you write about?

34:01 Speaker 18: Sure?

34:01 Speaker 2: So yeah, so that song is about war that I

34:04 Speaker 2: actually wrote that right after Russia had invaded Ukraine. Okay,

34:07 Speaker 2: so it's an anti war song. Obviously war is bad,

34:10 Speaker 2: so we are we're not for war, we're against it. Yeah,

34:12 Speaker 2: and try to talk about, you know, all the bad

34:14 Speaker 2: things that happened, you know, because of it. Yeah, but

34:17 Speaker 2: that's not the only topic that we talk about. So

34:19 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that might be in the news.

34:21 Speaker 2: I might get inspiration from a news story something, something

34:24 Speaker 2: that had happened. Sometimes we just write about, you know,

34:27 Speaker 2: just fictitious stories. So vessel is I was kind of

34:31 Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, somebody who had been taken captive

34:33 Speaker 2: on a ship after they had been floating in the

34:36 Speaker 2: ocean kind of like you know, their ship had had

34:38 Speaker 2: blown up or whatever, and so they were trying to

34:41 Speaker 2: you know, save themselves and then they get taken into

34:44 Speaker 2: custody by like another ship, and then a fight ensues

34:46 Speaker 2: and they are able to escape again. And the whole

34:48 Speaker 2: point is like they have what they need. The inner

34:51 Speaker 2: strength in order to survive every single one of these

34:53 Speaker 2: obstacles that keeps coming in front of them. So there

34:56 Speaker 2: might be something like that with Fade Away. It's actually

34:59 Speaker 2: inspired by a book that I recently read, Norwegian Wood,

35:03 Speaker 2: by this Japanese writer. If somebody at work had given

35:07 Speaker 2: me the book, and it was inspired by that, so

35:09 Speaker 2: it is it's a bit of a sad song. Suicide

35:12 Speaker 2: is one of the It's a hard term to talk

35:15 Speaker 2: about sometimes, but that is one of the prominent things

35:18 Speaker 2: about the book as these people are coming of age,

35:20 Speaker 2: and I was inspired by the book to write a

35:23 Speaker 2: song to try to kind of tap into the feelings

35:25 Speaker 2: that somebody might be having from actually both sides. The

35:29 Speaker 2: person who you know, makes that decision, and then the

35:32 Speaker 2: people who are left to you know, kind of pick

35:34 Speaker 2: up the pieces afterwards. So it kind of is just

35:37 Speaker 2: a mix of things. It's whatever I get inspired by. Typically,

35:41 Speaker 2: I'll write the riffs first for the song, and then

35:44 Speaker 2: the lyrics will come afterwards, and so the music, the cadence,

35:48 Speaker 2: the way I'm feeling is going to influence what I'm

35:50 Speaker 2: going to be singing about as well.

35:52 Speaker 1: Okay, so you probably have riffs, You probably have a

35:55 Speaker 1: lot of ideas that you just don't have lyrics for yet. Right,

35:57 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I would imagine.

35:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all on my phone. I do have to

36:03 Speaker 2: record them so I don't forget them.

36:04 Speaker 10: Yes.

36:05 Speaker 1: Now, Dan made a comment too off air that you're

36:07 Speaker 1: the best cap you're as a vocalist. You're like the

36:10 Speaker 1: best kept secret in Doom and you do have a

36:12 Speaker 1: great voice. I love your voice.

36:13 Speaker 10: Thank you.

36:14 Speaker 4: I was really shy about it.

36:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you learn to sing like that? Did

36:18 Speaker 1: you take any lessons or did you just are you

36:20 Speaker 1: self taught?

36:21 Speaker 2: Pretty much, just self taught. I took a handful of

36:23 Speaker 2: lessons several years ago, but I didn't really. It was

36:26 Speaker 2: more about like breathing control and that kind of stuff.

36:29 Speaker 1: Yeah.

36:30 Speaker 2: I think I took like four or five lessons.

36:32 Speaker 1: And that was about it.

36:33 Speaker 2: So wosta is just self taught. But I come from

36:36 Speaker 2: a family of musicians. My mother sings, she plays acoustic guitar.

36:39 Speaker 2: Her brother played guitar and sang in a band as well.

36:42 Speaker 2: So it's a part of our family.

36:44 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's probably a foregone conclusion from a young

36:46 Speaker 1: age that you're going to be a musician. Pretty much.

36:49 Speaker 2: I started pretty young.

36:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when did you, like, when did you start

36:54 Speaker 1: writing in this this genre?

36:57 Speaker 2: So I started playing guitar when I was twelve, and

37:00 Speaker 2: I wrote my first song at thirteen, Okay, And when

37:03 Speaker 2: I think back to what that first song was in

37:04 Speaker 2: the lyrics, there's they it kind of has stayed the same. Yeah,

37:09 Speaker 2: I'm a little doomy, A little gloomy. That just part

37:12 Speaker 2: of my nature, sure, but specifically with doom, I've just

37:17 Speaker 2: sort of gravitated towards that. So way back in the

37:20 Speaker 2: mid nineties, I was in a band called Warhorse, and

37:23 Speaker 2: we were a traditional, more traditional doom I guess, really slow,

37:27 Speaker 2: really heavy kind of stuff. And it like you can

37:30 Speaker 2: hear the common thread. Marena said this of all the

37:33 Speaker 2: different releases I've put out with different bands over the years,

37:35 Speaker 2: Like you can you hear that common thread of Christa.

37:37 Speaker 2: You know that it's in there regardless of whether she's

37:39 Speaker 2: playing guitar, just singing or whatnot. So it's just sort of,

37:42 Speaker 2: I guess at this point, like just built into my.

37:44 Speaker 1: DNA, right right. And then on the uh when I

37:48 Speaker 1: hear layered vocals and some of the songs, is that

37:50 Speaker 1: all you yes is yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah.

37:53 Speaker 2: The downside is like, we can't pull that off live. Yeah,

37:55 Speaker 2: unlus we start using backing tracks. But yeah, so we

37:58 Speaker 2: definitely play in this studio. Will layer guitars, we layer vocals.

38:03 Speaker 2: So it's a it's a it's just another way to really,

38:06 Speaker 2: you know, beef up the songs, bring it to life. Really,

38:08 Speaker 2: you know, share the vision.

38:09 Speaker 1: That we had for it. Okay, are you all from

38:11 Speaker 1: around here? Are you all from New Hampshire or.

38:14 Speaker 2: We're from Massachusetts, Massachusetts from Massachusetts, wester based band.

38:18 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, excellent, Well thanks for making the trip up.

38:21 Speaker 1: I know that's happy, happy to be here. This is

38:24 Speaker 1: not a terrible drive, No, no, not at all.

38:26 Speaker 2: They're sailing the whole way.

38:28 Speaker 1: Do you play a lot of shows in Wister because

38:30 Speaker 1: I used to, so not recently. I'm a musician, but

38:32 Speaker 1: I haven't played in a long time, but I used to.

38:34 Speaker 1: I was in bands that we used to play a

38:36 Speaker 1: lot of shows in Wister, just because there are always

38:37 Speaker 1: a few like is the atrium still there? That's probably

38:39 Speaker 1: long gone because I've mentioned it to people, And do

38:42 Speaker 1: you all remember the atrium that was in Wister? Okay, yeah,

38:45 Speaker 1: well yeah, that actually does go back a long way

38:47 Speaker 1: and now that I'm thinking about it, But but like

38:48 Speaker 1: what's the scene? Like there are there are a lot

38:49 Speaker 1: of a lot of good places to play and other

38:52 Speaker 1: bands that you kind of team up with.

38:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's Ralph's is the main, main place, the

38:57 Speaker 2: main place to play. There's a lot of other doom

39:00 Speaker 2: bands that play faces a bay on Evil eighty Conclave.

39:06 Speaker 2: We all have to share a rehearsal space as well.

39:09 Speaker 1: That's convenient, right.

39:10 Speaker 2: I know we've talked about like just taking the Temple

39:12 Speaker 2: of Doom room and just turning that into a show.

39:15 Speaker 2: We still have yet to do that.

39:16 Speaker 1: By the way, every drummer we have on the show

39:18 Speaker 1: is in like ten Are you just in two, Dan

39:20 Speaker 1: or do you have like okay, because most most drummers

39:22 Speaker 1: are in like ten different bands. Okay, No, But that's

39:29 Speaker 1: convenient though, right to just share the space. Yeah, So

39:35 Speaker 1: where do you record? Because the production on the studio

39:38 Speaker 1: tracks is amazing and I would imagine you have to

39:41 Speaker 1: work with somebody who really understands the genre right to

39:44 Speaker 1: capture that sound, I would think. So I'm curious about

39:47 Speaker 1: what the recording process is like for the band.

39:50 Speaker 18: So this last album, Vessel.

39:53 Speaker 2: Was shoving the microphone space that you can hear him.

39:59 Speaker 5: Yeah.

40:00 Speaker 18: It was done out in Western Massachusetts with a place

40:04 Speaker 18: called Sonic Titan Studios, who has kind of given up

40:08 Speaker 18: their space that they had, but they'll still do mobile production,

40:12 Speaker 18: mobile recording events, all kinds of stuff. And Anthony, who

40:17 Speaker 18: was partners with Brian, was the master of the helm

40:20 Speaker 18: for this recording. He's a monster musician, an absolutely incredible drummer,

40:27 Speaker 18: so I was. I was very well taken care of

40:30 Speaker 18: for this one. Yeah, he kind of guided me through

40:34 Speaker 18: a lot of setup. He even changed out some heads

40:37 Speaker 18: and whatnot when we got into the studio instead of

40:39 Speaker 18: playing on it, stuff that he had that he thought

40:41 Speaker 18: would sound, you know, sonically sound much better, and he

40:43 Speaker 18: was right. Came out beautiful. We were extremely happy with

40:47 Speaker 18: the process for him working with him. Hopefully maybe there's

40:53 Speaker 18: a potential that, you know, we can still get him

40:55 Speaker 18: involved in the future. I don't know where it'll be,

40:57 Speaker 18: how it would happen.

40:58 Speaker 1: YEA.

41:00 Speaker 18: Yeah, he's touring all the time. He's a guest, but

41:02 Speaker 18: he's been playing with Jamie Josta recently and all the

41:05 Speaker 18: kind of individual Jasta stuff that he's been doing. Great

41:08 Speaker 18: dude too, he's just just a great person. The album

41:12 Speaker 18: before Vessel, but the EP was done with Benny Grotto

41:19 Speaker 18: at Madoak Studios in Cambridge, also Cambridge, which he's still

41:26 Speaker 18: functioning as far as I know, their studio is going

41:28 Speaker 18: to stay intact. They've been hearing a lot of rumors

41:30 Speaker 18: about that whole block kind of transforming into something brand new,

41:35 Speaker 18: and they're they're actually located right behind us at Harvard Square, not.

41:39 Speaker 2: Harvard Square, It's I don't know what the square is

41:41 Speaker 2: where that is, but it's it's the whole area has

41:44 Speaker 2: been undergoing development has They've been knocking down buildings and

41:47 Speaker 2: putting up fancy high rises and fancy bars and that

41:51 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. So, yeah, so there's been talk for

41:54 Speaker 2: quite some time about O'Brien's, that whole area that O'Brien's

41:57 Speaker 2: Pub is going to get knocked down in the something. Yeah,

42:01 Speaker 2: with Benny being right behind it, I'm not sure what's

42:03 Speaker 2: going to happen.

42:04 Speaker 18: Buying any houses or in the additional real estate. And

42:07 Speaker 18: I're also supposed to have in that building when it

42:09 Speaker 18: gets built back up, Supposedly it's going to have O'Brien's

42:12 Speaker 18: will be revived and brought back, but also great Scott.

42:16 Speaker 18: Oh okay, well we lost in Boston.

42:18 Speaker 2: I think that was prior to COVID or right around

42:21 Speaker 2: I think it was yeah, during COVID. H.

42:23 Speaker 18: So the rumor is that they're supposed to have a

42:25 Speaker 18: twin venue there plus probably some mixture space, maybe residential

42:28 Speaker 18: or something.

42:28 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but there are.

42:30 Speaker 18: Another great studio, and you know we may be able

42:32 Speaker 18: to work with them.

42:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many different options and different ways to

42:36 Speaker 1: record now, you know, now more than ever, I'm curious.

42:40 Speaker 1: You know, COVID came up. Do you have songs about

42:42 Speaker 1: the pandemic?

42:44 Speaker 2: No, songs about the pandemic?

42:46 Speaker 1: Surprises surprised me a little bit.

42:49 Speaker 18: Wow, the time everyone wants to forget.

42:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, kidding.

42:55 Speaker 2: Interesting, we are writing for the new album. So perhaps

42:58 Speaker 2: now that you just planted a se maybe you could you.

43:01 Speaker 1: Could still do that?

43:02 Speaker 4: Yeah?

43:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when it when you play live, because again,

43:08 Speaker 1: it's only the three of you, is it, is it

43:10 Speaker 1: challenging it at all to duplicate or maybe maybe you

43:13 Speaker 1: can't duplicate it perfectly. But but I mean, you know,

43:15 Speaker 1: you've got a big sound for for a three piece.

43:18 Speaker 1: You know, there's a that maybe a little cliche, but

43:20 Speaker 1: you know the term power trio.

43:22 Speaker 18: We love it.

43:23 Speaker 1: But uh good, good? But I mean, is that is

43:26 Speaker 1: that hard to pull off live at all?

43:28 Speaker 5: Or is is it?

43:29 Speaker 1: Does it come naturally? I mean, at this point you've

43:31 Speaker 1: been around a while, it probably is pretty easy. But

43:33 Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't know. I don't find it challenging.

43:36 Speaker 2: I do miss having the backing vocals. Yeah, But the

43:40 Speaker 2: other piece of it is it we also recorded most.

43:43 Speaker 1: Of it live. Oh okay, Oh okay, well that helps, right.

43:49 Speaker 18: Yeah, we don't like do separate tracking to a click

43:51 Speaker 18: or anything like that. Okay, okay, into the space and

43:54 Speaker 18: do a live track, which usually will grab the drums

43:57 Speaker 18: out of okay, and then they can go back and

43:59 Speaker 18: either read or or fix or any they want to actually, and.

44:03 Speaker 2: Then just layer on top of it. So usually the

44:05 Speaker 2: my scratch track that we'd be recording when we're doing

44:08 Speaker 2: the live and we're all in the room together, that's

44:11 Speaker 2: we can keep it. Yeah, And then I'll just you know,

44:13 Speaker 2: punch in here or there just to fix a couple

44:14 Speaker 2: of bloops that I had, Yeah, and then I'll just

44:16 Speaker 2: go back and replay through the whole entire thing with

44:18 Speaker 2: just a different rig a different guitar just to get another,

44:21 Speaker 2: you know, more fuller sound. Yeah, but I think you know,

44:23 Speaker 2: we play pretty loud, so I'd like to think that

44:25 Speaker 2: we fill up the fill up the space. Yeah yeah, yeah,

44:28 Speaker 2: that advantage right, Yeah, Yeah, my amp goes to eleven.

44:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

44:34 Speaker 18: We play with a lot of passion live, so I

44:36 Speaker 18: think that comes through so yeah, and it helps fill

44:39 Speaker 18: it out.

44:39 Speaker 1: Are there other bands in the area that you you know,

44:41 Speaker 1: it kind of happens organically that that you've kind of

44:43 Speaker 1: teamed up with that you play a lot of shows with. Probably,

44:46 Speaker 1: Or have you ever done a show where you're playing

44:48 Speaker 1: with Conclave and spent the realm the same night.

44:51 Speaker 18: Yeah, We've had a couple of those with Double Duty.

44:53 Speaker 1: Yeah.

44:54 Speaker 18: Local bands that we've been spending more time with lately

44:57 Speaker 18: would be Able Blood Yep.

44:59 Speaker 1: I love Able Blood. I've been on the show a

45:00 Speaker 1: few times.

45:01 Speaker 18: Love them great, great people.

45:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, a.

45:04 Speaker 18: Lot of fun to play with, great musicians. Yeah, a

45:08 Speaker 18: lot of the local scene, they all we all kind

45:11 Speaker 18: of migrate together, Yeah, in and out and whatnot. But

45:13 Speaker 18: I'd say in recent time we've spent a lot of

45:15 Speaker 18: shows with it.

45:18 Speaker 1: That's great.

45:18 Speaker 18: Yeah, we have another one coming up with them in

45:20 Speaker 18: November at Kuodo and Salem.

45:22 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, it'll be cool, excellent.

45:24 Speaker 18: Yeah them does Profits also on the bill?

45:27 Speaker 1: Does Profits great. I used to be in a band

45:28 Speaker 1: with Auto Kinzell a lot of time. We were in

45:31 Speaker 1: a band called Chemical Distance together. That was when Otto

45:34 Speaker 1: was you know, every project he did, you know, it

45:37 Speaker 1: would only last for you know, because he'd want to

45:39 Speaker 1: do something else, so it would only last a short time.

45:41 Speaker 1: But does Profits He's had for for quite a while

45:44 Speaker 1: now that seems to be found something he can really

45:46 Speaker 1: stick with that fulfills him and he's incredible. Well, I

45:49 Speaker 1: love Auto absolutely great guy.

45:51 Speaker 18: They're on the bill as well. There's a a band

45:53 Speaker 18: coming I think from New York, Black Tongue, Reverend Name

45:59 Speaker 18: and of course Sabled Blood. They're the ones that put

46:01 Speaker 18: the show together.

46:02 Speaker 1: Oh okay, fantastic. And where is that?

46:04 Speaker 18: Want to get Quoto and Salem?

46:06 Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't been to that venue, but I've heard

46:08 Speaker 1: about it.

46:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Salem, Massachusetts, Massachusetts.

46:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is oh yes, yeah, oh yeah. Is

46:17 Speaker 1: that that time of year?

46:18 Speaker 2: Well, fortunately it's right afterwards. We don't have to deal

46:21 Speaker 2: with all the crazy traffic, insane during October. You need

46:25 Speaker 2: to stay away from it. Anybody who lives in Salem, Like,

46:28 Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, because I would

46:30 Speaker 2: just would be enough to make me move.

46:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, no doubt.

46:34 Speaker 18: So the show's on November eighth, she said, it's just

46:36 Speaker 18: passed the whole Yeah, you know wild Halloween time.

46:40 Speaker 1: Well that's good.

46:42 Speaker 2: When is the October one?

46:44 Speaker 18: It's next weekend.

46:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, next week nod. It's in two weeks so October

46:51 Speaker 2: twenty fifth, right, October twenty fifth, I'm saying that right.

46:55 Speaker 2: We are playing at Terminus Underground.

46:58 Speaker 1: Nice.

46:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is a New hamh Nashville, New Hampshire.

47:02 Speaker 1: Yeap, Yeah, love Terminus. Andrea and Eleanor are great people.

47:05 Speaker 1: Have you been there yet?

47:06 Speaker 16: We have not?

47:07 Speaker 18: I did? Oh you okay, because I'm not Vigil. His

47:11 Speaker 18: other band the World burns World Worth Burning, World Worth Burning.

47:16 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, okay, that's a great name, but I'm

47:19 Speaker 1: not familiar with that. I am familiar with Vigil, but

47:21 Speaker 1: not World Worth Worth Burning. But no, I tell everyone

47:24 Speaker 1: the same thing about who hasn't been in Terminius yet?

47:26 Speaker 1: And you'll probably agree. It's like when you walk into

47:27 Speaker 1: that room, it's like walking into another world.

47:29 Speaker 18: It's really cool.

47:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, really cool. It's incredible. Yeah, very nice, very nice. Well,

47:33 Speaker 1: we do have one more studio track that we're gonna play.

47:35 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we don't run out of time,

47:37 Speaker 1: so we'll get to that in a moment. But I

47:38 Speaker 1: really want to thank all three of you for joining

47:40 Speaker 1: us today us absolutely and thank you for coming and

47:43 Speaker 1: playing live. Very cool. Where should people go? Like, so

47:47 Speaker 1: our listeners know where's the best place to go online

47:49 Speaker 1: to keep up with everything that Benthic Realm is doing.

47:52 Speaker 2: So Benthakrealm dot Com has has it everything. That are

47:55 Speaker 2: all our upcoming shows. Who've got links to all the

47:58 Speaker 2: merch We're on band camp, We're on Facebook, We're on Instagram,

48:01 Speaker 2: so you can find us on all the social media platforms.

48:02 Speaker 2: On YouTube, we've got a YouTube channel too. But if

48:05 Speaker 2: you go to the website Benthickrealm dot com, then that'll

48:07 Speaker 2: get your pointers to go to all the other places

48:10 Speaker 2: that we live.

48:10 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent.

48:12 Speaker 2: Wise, we're on every platform, yeah, Spotify, Apple, you know, Amazon, everything?

48:18 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. Oh does anybody ever mess up

48:20 Speaker 1: your name on a flyer? Because benthic is not a

48:22 Speaker 1: word that you hear every day. I'm just curious, does

48:25 Speaker 1: anybody ever you ever see it misspelled on a flyer

48:28 Speaker 1: or anything?

48:28 Speaker 2: We actually have not.

48:29 Speaker 1: That's good, that's good.

48:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're lucky. Yeah, a lot of people do say wait,

48:35 Speaker 2: say that again. So yeah, it's definitely not a word

48:38 Speaker 2: that gets used a lot.

48:40 Speaker 1: So we're going to close out in a moment with

48:43 Speaker 1: summon the Tide? What should we know about this song?

48:46 Speaker 1: What's this one about?

48:49 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of death and destruction that makes

48:52 Speaker 2: its way into what I write. Yeah, So this song

48:55 Speaker 2: is a fictitious thing. I was kind of envisioning like

48:57 Speaker 2: a goddess who has, you know, the control of the

49:01 Speaker 2: seas and of the water and all of that sort

49:03 Speaker 2: of thing, and she has gotten really depressed. She's kind of,

49:06 Speaker 2: you know, coming at the end of questioning her own

49:09 Speaker 2: existence and everything, and in the in the means of

49:12 Speaker 2: kind of taking herself out of the picture, she ends up,

49:16 Speaker 2: unfortunately taking everybody else out with her.

49:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, as she is.

49:19 Speaker 1: Summoning the tide.

49:20 Speaker 2: So it's a bit of a kind of a dark,

49:25 Speaker 2: dark song, have you Yeah, but I could envision, you know,

49:28 Speaker 2: all of that, a lot of that. I'm I'm also

49:29 Speaker 2: a designer so like I, you know, have the visual

49:31 Speaker 2: is big for me, So I could typically will envision,

49:34 Speaker 2: you know, the story that's happening in front of me,

49:36 Speaker 2: and then I'm just sort of writing about what it

49:38 Speaker 2: is that I'm seeing in.

49:39 Speaker 23: My in my in my vision.

49:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, ah, wonderful, wonderful. So we're going to play this

49:44 Speaker 1: and again thank you to everybody who joined us today.

49:46 Speaker 1: Of course we had let's see, we had Kyle Gordon,

49:49 Speaker 1: we had Jack from Pacific A's in the first hour.

49:53 Speaker 1: By the way, keeping eye what Jenny is doing Jencoffee

49:55 Speaker 1: dot com. She had a very big week and follow

49:58 Speaker 1: her on social media if you want to know more

49:59 Speaker 1: abo me and what I do Matt connorton dot com.

50:02 Speaker 1: And uh, if you miss any part of today's show,

50:04 Speaker 1: it will be up in just a little bit at

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50:08 Speaker 1: Matt Connorton dot com. And we will close out with

50:10 Speaker 1: this and again, uh benthic Realm. Thank you all three

50:13 Speaker 1: of you so much. You got it, you got it,

50:16 Speaker 1: and here it is. This is called Summon the tide.

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51:16 Speaker 17: No things seased to cry, the bound to the coming control.

51:44 Speaker 21: Menser Si to ah so be side on will is born,

52:15 Speaker 21: but th di shall.

52:42 Speaker 4: I wall go? Really from seol oh girls and.

52:56 Speaker 16: There my mind clean old don't juice.

53:09 Speaker 21: Say, oh be wiss man them so also Mata to wars.

53:45 Speaker 5: Ban so.

53:51 Speaker 21: We bring along as Bill is all beer well than

55:47 Speaker 21: oh fool so.

55:48 Speaker 16: Bow fool.

55:53 Speaker 4: So it all just ball answer the to.

56:07 Speaker 21: Down the straight.

56:11 Speaker 10: Zo change.

56:16 Speaker 4: The strand.

56:22 Speaker 21: Co and so sad.

56:45 Speaker 10: To baby.

56:57 Speaker 21: The side gone Bill is small water and di