Kyle Gordon | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: That is She Chose Me by Kyle Gordon. I love

0:03 Speaker 1: everything about that song. That is a perfect song. I

0:05 Speaker 1: think we have Kyle on the line, Kyle are you there?

0:09 Speaker 2: Can you hear me?

0:10 Speaker 3: Yes?

0:10 Speaker 1: Yes, welcome to the show, my friend. That is so good.

0:13 Speaker 1: I love that song so much. I love everything about

0:16 Speaker 1: it absolutely.

0:18 Speaker 2: Yeah.

0:19 Speaker 4: I haven't heard it in the Wow it's sounding good.

0:21 Speaker 3: Yeah.

0:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a little bit of a like in

0:24 Speaker 1: the chorus there. You got a little bit of a

0:25 Speaker 1: motown thing there. I love the so that guitar solo

0:30 Speaker 1: is perfect. Everything about it. It's just it's a perfect song.

0:33 Speaker 1: There's there's nothing you could do to that to make

0:35 Speaker 1: it better. It's it's perfect. I love it.

0:39 Speaker 2: Well.

0:39 Speaker 4: That means a lot, thank you. I had very little

0:41 Speaker 4: to do with that solo. I was I was blissfully

0:45 Speaker 4: out of the room when that happened, my very good friend. Yeah, yeah,

0:49 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not like a I'm not a great musician.

0:52 Speaker 4: I'm just more of a songwriter.

0:53 Speaker 3: Okay.

0:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when we were in.

0:56 Speaker 4: The studio that was this is this this album that

1:00 Speaker 4: for the first song off the album is the first

1:02 Speaker 4: time that I ever got out of my own way

1:04 Speaker 4: to not do all the instrumentation on a song. All

1:07 Speaker 4: I'm doing on that song is the drums and the guitars,

1:10 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the acoustic guitars. I'm doing all the singing. Ye,

1:12 Speaker 4: but my very good friend Nick Whitson is doing the

1:15 Speaker 4: bass and the guitar, and then Chris, my friend Chris Simsen,

1:18 Speaker 4: is also doing some bass.

1:20 Speaker 2: So a lot of that.

1:21 Speaker 4: Instrumentation is just so beautiful and I'm I'm proud of

1:26 Speaker 4: it because I had absolutely nothing to do with it.

1:29 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:30 Speaker 4: Man, I think that's that's when collaboration, you know, is

1:33 Speaker 4: at its finest. So yeah, thank you so much for

1:36 Speaker 4: playing it, and I haven't heard.

1:37 Speaker 2: It in a little while, and I really enjoyed it.

1:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really good. Do you uh? Do you perform

1:43 Speaker 3: that live? Do you play out?

1:46 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:46 Speaker 4: I play out, but not as not as Kyle Bordon yet.

1:50 Speaker 4: My career is kind of been a weird.

1:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. As right now, I'm.

1:53 Speaker 4: Playing under two names, Mama Bear and Anthems. Okay, I'm

1:58 Speaker 4: going this new Yeah, this new project, Anthems is it's fantastic.

2:02 Speaker 4: It's a rock project. But the Kyle Gordon stuff kind

2:05 Speaker 4: of represents songs that I write that that don't see

2:08 Speaker 4: the light of the day my rock and roll projects.

2:11 Speaker 2: Okay, so because I write all.

2:13 Speaker 4: Kinds of music, man, so this to me what I

2:16 Speaker 4: like about the Kyle Gordon project. It's a lot slicker

2:18 Speaker 4: and a lot more refined than all my other projects.

2:22 Speaker 4: And a lot of that, again has to do with

2:24 Speaker 4: the fact that I'm not doing most of the instrumentation anymore. Okay,

2:28 Speaker 4: I just yeah, I come into a studio with a

2:30 Speaker 4: song idea, I record what I think is the song,

2:33 Speaker 4: and then when we're done with it, it's almost it's

2:36 Speaker 4: almost unrecognizable. And I know you and I have never

2:39 Speaker 4: really spoken. You don't really know anything about me. But

2:41 Speaker 4: I've been making music for twenty five years. I'm sup yeah,

2:45 Speaker 4: and I'm super proud of this album because it represents

2:49 Speaker 4: something I've never done before. And the whole maxim was

2:51 Speaker 4: is the only rule was we can't do what we've

2:54 Speaker 4: done in the past, right, you know, Like there's like

2:59 Speaker 4: no big, huge, booming electric guitars, you know, or so

3:05 Speaker 4: I'm not screaming every point.

3:07 Speaker 2: I have to make a lot more.

3:10 Speaker 4: Crooning and stuff like that, and just trying to flex

3:13 Speaker 4: muscles that I've never flexed on a studio before. So yeah, man,

3:17 Speaker 4: it's a I got a lot of really cool songs

3:20 Speaker 4: to show y'all. This is just the first one, and

3:24 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. It's nice to meet you.

3:25 Speaker 2: How's your dad one?

3:26 Speaker 3: Yeah?

3:26 Speaker 1: Very well, very well, thank you. No, I've been looking

3:30 Speaker 1: forward to talking with them because, like I said, I

3:31 Speaker 1: love that song so much. Is it important to you

3:34 Speaker 1: to because you've got other projects too? Is it important

3:37 Speaker 1: to you to have multiple things where you can kind

3:39 Speaker 1: of explore different genres or different different approaches to creating music.

3:45 Speaker 2: Yeah.

3:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to compartmentalize things, like Mama Bear is

3:49 Speaker 4: my little indie project, okay, and I'll always I'll stick

3:52 Speaker 4: like two artistic songs on it, but the rest of

3:56 Speaker 4: it's just like a very indie garage rock project. And

3:59 Speaker 4: then Anthems I'm creating with my very good friend Houston B,

4:04 Speaker 4: who was in a band called Heavy Mojo and they

4:06 Speaker 4: were very popular, kind of like this rap rock thing.

4:10 Speaker 4: And B is such a good songwriter, So he and

4:13 Speaker 4: I are doing stuff with Anthems, and it's like we

4:17 Speaker 4: call it industrial strength.

4:18 Speaker 2: R and B.

4:20 Speaker 4: Interest is kind of like punk and R and B

4:22 Speaker 4: mixed together.

4:23 Speaker 2: And so and I grew up in Atlanta.

4:25 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Oh, I just said, really that that sounds interesting.

4:28 Speaker 3: I want to hear some of that. Definitely.

4:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good.

4:31 Speaker 4: In the middle of finishing an album and an EPA,

4:34 Speaker 4: they put out an ep last summer and we're torn around.

4:36 Speaker 4: We're going to go to England next year with it,

4:38 Speaker 4: and I'm super stoked about that.

4:39 Speaker 3: Excellent.

4:40 Speaker 4: But yeah, man, so I compartmentalize my music so that

4:43 Speaker 4: so the Kyle Gordon stuff is kind of like I

4:45 Speaker 4: look at indie pop thing. I guess you could call it, yeah,

4:48 Speaker 4: and I like, I like making pop music.

4:51 Speaker 2: Who knew? Yeah?

4:55 Speaker 1: What's the music scene like? I mean, obviously, so you're

4:58 Speaker 1: in Atlanta? Now, did you grow up there?

5:01 Speaker 2: I did?

5:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I did all my formative years here in Ato.

5:04 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what's the music scene like there? I would imagine.

5:08 Speaker 1: I would imagine it's a lot of different kinds of things,

5:10 Speaker 1: which which is probably why you're into, uh, you know,

5:13 Speaker 1: making different kinds of music and compartmentalizing it.

5:16 Speaker 3: I assume.

5:16 Speaker 2: Yeah.

5:17 Speaker 3: Is that?

5:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, growing up in Atlanta, you know, hip hop

5:20 Speaker 4: is very pervasive. I grew up in the early nineties,

5:23 Speaker 4: so I remember I remember hip hop, I remember R

5:25 Speaker 4: and B, and then I remember Nirvana. Yes, my mom

5:28 Speaker 4: raised me with the Beatles, and so I think all

5:31 Speaker 4: those like the the aggressiveness and the accessibility of Nirvana,

5:36 Speaker 4: I'm coupled with the brilliance of the Beatles, and then

5:38 Speaker 4: like just the rhythm, the rhythm heaviness of hip hop

5:42 Speaker 4: was a huge influence on me because I think if

5:45 Speaker 4: you're writing a song and people aren't moving around to it,

5:48 Speaker 4: then you didn't You didn't you miss the point, right,

5:50 Speaker 4: you know, Like it's it's great to connect with people

5:53 Speaker 4: through lyrics, it's it's awesome to do all that, but

5:55 Speaker 4: if they're not moving their body like that's unless it's

6:00 Speaker 4: unless it's classical, or it's not just to do that,

6:03 Speaker 4: you know.

6:04 Speaker 2: I think that's.

6:04 Speaker 4: What's cool about music is it just gets inside you.

6:08 Speaker 4: You don't know why you're moving, but you're just moving

6:10 Speaker 4: and it feels city I'm good to do it. So yeah,

6:13 Speaker 4: like Atlanta, the music scene in Atlanta has always been

6:16 Speaker 4: very vibrant, like you're talking about, and I'm sure every

6:19 Speaker 4: town could say the same thing. I don't think that

6:21 Speaker 4: Atlanta is better than the other town, but I do

6:23 Speaker 4: think Atlanta is very unique in the sense that when

6:26 Speaker 4: I was going up, like all kinds of bands blew

6:29 Speaker 4: up on a national level that I knew personally, you know,

6:32 Speaker 4: they were doing their thing. And so Atlanta has a

6:35 Speaker 4: very vibrant, rich scene. I'm currently I'm raising two little kids,

6:41 Speaker 4: so I'm kind of not in the scene anymore. Okay, Yeah,

6:47 Speaker 4: I'm mainly just recording and playing shows these days.

6:49 Speaker 2: But I mean there's those kids are still there.

6:51 Speaker 4: On there messing stuff up and breaking things in the.

6:53 Speaker 2: Right way they're supposed to do, and God bless them.

6:58 Speaker 2: You know.

6:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're only You're only in your in twenties for

7:01 Speaker 4: a short amount of time. So out there and find

7:03 Speaker 4: out who you are and make your name, you know,

7:06 Speaker 4: find out who you are and do your thing.

7:08 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, music is in Atlanta's.

7:11 Speaker 4: It's very important. Don here does Yeah, and a lot

7:14 Speaker 4: of a lot of people in the world listen to

7:16 Speaker 4: Atlanta musicians. They may not even know it, but right

7:19 Speaker 4: and in Atlanta's cool because it sucks. It sucks everyone

7:21 Speaker 4: in from a uh you know, you could say, there's

7:24 Speaker 4: a there's a cup around the math of Atlanta. And

7:28 Speaker 4: if you didn't move to Nashville, you came to Atlanta.

7:30 Speaker 4: You know, if you're in the Midwest, you go to

7:32 Speaker 4: Chicago or Nashville, but everyone in the South coalesces into Atlanta.

7:37 Speaker 2: I was the same way.

7:38 Speaker 4: I was a suburban kid. I didn't grow up in Atlanta.

7:40 Speaker 4: I moved down to Atlanta to be cool and be

7:43 Speaker 4: seen C and BC and et cetera.

7:45 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so yeah, Atlanta, Atlanta. Love Atlanta.

7:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, where you're you're up in New Hampshire.

7:53 Speaker 3: We're in New Hampshire.

7:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, Manchester, New Hampshire where it's a little little chillier

7:58 Speaker 1: by a.

7:59 Speaker 4: Bear in the white mountains of New Hampshire.

8:01 Speaker 1: When I was thirteen, Okay, please please sell, please, yeah,

8:05 Speaker 1: please tell that story because I'm very, very interested to

8:07 Speaker 1: hear this.

8:09 Speaker 3: Yikes.

8:09 Speaker 2: My dad.

8:10 Speaker 4: My dad was like, I got a man, this boy

8:12 Speaker 4: up and was like he was in New Jersey my

8:14 Speaker 4: whole life.

8:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a man, this boy up.

8:17 Speaker 4: Take him out of the mountains. So we go hiking.

8:20 Speaker 4: It's like six days and I'm like the most tenderfooted

8:23 Speaker 4: person you ever met.

8:24 Speaker 2: I'm so soft and so you know, I'm.

8:27 Speaker 4: Like a mess the whole time. We have a water filter.

8:29 Speaker 4: We've got this try free food. We're like legit camping, right, yeah,

8:32 Speaker 4: and so on, like the sixth day we land at

8:35 Speaker 4: this free walled cabin and I'll just never forget. It

8:38 Speaker 4: was the White Mountains of New Hampshire, god knows where.

8:41 Speaker 4: I guess that means something to you, yeah and or yeah.

8:45 Speaker 4: So anyway, this bear named Brutus was a black bear

8:48 Speaker 4: and there was a little polaroid of him above this clipboard.

8:51 Speaker 4: And I imagine the clipboard was there just to kind of, oh,

8:53 Speaker 4: you could leave a note for someone that you saw.

8:56 Speaker 4: Oh hey, I remember, I remember specific like Jim I

8:58 Speaker 4: beat you summer ninety five. Oh, yeah, you know whatever. Yeah,

9:02 Speaker 4: And then I saw things there's no Brutus.

9:04 Speaker 2: Good. Oh, I was like, what does that mean. I

9:07 Speaker 2: look up.

9:08 Speaker 4: There's a picture of a black bear and there's a

9:09 Speaker 4: little note saying this is Brutus. He's the predominant black

9:12 Speaker 4: bear in this area. He's never hurt anyone, don't see him.

9:16 Speaker 2: YadA, YadA, YadA.

9:17 Speaker 4: Later that day he chased three campers up onto that

9:20 Speaker 4: three walled cabin I mentioned earlier, and then he came

9:22 Speaker 4: right into our campsite ate our lemonade, chased me into

9:26 Speaker 4: a tent almost collapsed the tent. My Dad's trying to

9:30 Speaker 4: scare him off with these two little pots he brought

9:31 Speaker 4: to boil water.

9:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I've never camped since, not once.

9:35 Speaker 3: Wow, that's intense.

9:38 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was really intense.

9:40 Speaker 4: And the way I look at it now is like

9:43 Speaker 4: the bears, like they live in the woods, that's there Atlanta. Yeah,

9:47 Speaker 4: they get that, Like I don't. I don't go there anymore.

9:50 Speaker 4: Like that's theirs and they they deserve it, they should

9:52 Speaker 4: have that. And I don't go there anymore, exact because

9:55 Speaker 4: I don't want to travel with a gun. I ain't

9:57 Speaker 4: gonna get eaten by bear.

10:01 Speaker 2: No.

10:01 Speaker 3: I like that. I can kind of relate.

10:02 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never had an intense experience like that,

10:04 Speaker 1: But the lack of interest in camping I can relate to.

10:07 Speaker 1: I grew up here, but I've never But people are

10:09 Speaker 1: surprised when I tell them this. I've never been camping

10:11 Speaker 1: in my life, and I'm never going to go. I

10:15 Speaker 1: don't want to go out. I don't want to be

10:16 Speaker 1: in the woods. I don't want to I don't want

10:18 Speaker 1: to risk encountering something that could eat me.

10:21 Speaker 2: Uh.

10:22 Speaker 3: I'm terrified of deer ticks. Deer. You know, deer ticks

10:25 Speaker 3: are very common.

10:25 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't want that lime disease, man.

10:27 Speaker 3: No way exactly. Oh, I've I know so many.

10:30 Speaker 1: I've met so many people who have lime disease because

10:32 Speaker 1: they went out in the woods and came into contact

10:34 Speaker 1: with a deer tick.

10:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm with you on that.

10:37 Speaker 2: Yeah.

10:37 Speaker 4: No, I like hot showers and uh you know, like

10:41 Speaker 4: take out food.

10:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, concrete and steel, concrete and steel, That's

10:46 Speaker 1: that's the way to go.

10:48 Speaker 4: But I will say this, I do recall the White

10:51 Speaker 4: Mountains being of New Hampshire if I refer to it.

10:55 Speaker 3: Oh, very much. So.

10:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was absolutely beautiful.

10:59 Speaker 2: But there's there's yeah, brutish. I wonder British is still alive.

11:03 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean this is like like thirty

11:05 Speaker 2: years ago.

11:05 Speaker 4: Man, I don't know how long it was thirty years ago.

11:08 Speaker 2: It was nineteen ninety five. Man.

11:09 Speaker 1: Oh, just be just be careful with the We're on

11:12 Speaker 1: FM terrestrial radio, so just be careful with what you say.

11:15 Speaker 3: Oh that's okay.

11:17 Speaker 1: We're on an eight second delay. So I caught it, no,

11:19 Speaker 1: no problem, but yeah, got you yeah yeah, but uh yeah,

11:23 Speaker 1: so I don't yeah, I don't go into the woods.

11:25 Speaker 1: But did you always did you always live in Atlanta

11:28 Speaker 1: or did you live anywhere else in the US at

11:29 Speaker 1: any point?

11:31 Speaker 2: I was born in Texas.

11:32 Speaker 3: I went to Texas.

11:33 Speaker 4: My mother and father split when I was one, so

11:35 Speaker 4: my dad moved in Jersey. My mom moved to Atlanta,

11:37 Speaker 4: where she had like a family.

11:39 Speaker 3: Yeah.

11:39 Speaker 4: So I was either in Atlanta or New Jersey my

11:42 Speaker 4: whole life, Okay, but mainly Atlanta. Did all my schooling

11:45 Speaker 4: down here, so I consider myself with Georgia.

11:47 Speaker 3: Boy, gotcha? Gotcha? Now?

11:50 Speaker 1: So what is you know, you've got multiple projects going.

11:53 Speaker 1: Is there one that's kind of the biggest priority for

11:55 Speaker 1: you right now? Is that the Kyle Gordon project? Or

11:58 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because you've got Mama Bear and

12:00 Speaker 1: you've got Anthems, and I mean it sounds like you're

12:02 Speaker 1: doing a lot.

12:03 Speaker 3: Is there a hierarchy to priorities?

12:05 Speaker 2: Is the most important to me?

12:06 Speaker 3: Okay?

12:06 Speaker 2: Yeah?

12:07 Speaker 4: Anthems is the most important because it's a it's a

12:09 Speaker 4: it's a functioning band.

12:10 Speaker 3: Yeah.

12:10 Speaker 4: The you know, there's four of us. We were all

12:13 Speaker 4: writing for it, like we all creator and parts for it.

12:16 Speaker 4: Whereas like Mama Bear is Mama Bear. I created Mama

12:20 Speaker 4: Bear in twenty thirteen after yet another one of my

12:25 Speaker 4: bands I believe in broke up, right, Oh, and that

12:28 Speaker 4: back then there wasn't internet radio, if you you know,

12:32 Speaker 4: if you didn't other than my Space in early Facebook,

12:35 Speaker 4: you know. So these bands, I'd be in this band

12:39 Speaker 4: for two years, we'd make an album that we all

12:41 Speaker 4: really believed in. It was frankly really good because I

12:45 Speaker 4: have I like to think of myself as artistically intell like,

12:49 Speaker 4: and there's integrity in it. Like I'm not just banging

12:51 Speaker 4: out stuff to be heard, because that's not the point,

12:53 Speaker 4: like I want to. I want to enjoy it myself, right, So,

12:57 Speaker 4: like I'd make an album with these guys and then

12:59 Speaker 4: the band would break up and it was like it

13:01 Speaker 4: never happened. And so after a while, after like the

13:04 Speaker 4: third band breaking up, and this is like seven eight

13:07 Speaker 4: years of my life, I was like, you know what,

13:08 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna make now by myself the way I

13:11 Speaker 4: want because I can play every instrument to some degree already.

13:14 Speaker 4: So I formed Mama Bear to just be an outlet

13:19 Speaker 4: for my songs. Yeah, And the reason I chose Mama

13:22 Speaker 4: Bear was because it's a it's a word or a

13:28 Speaker 4: phrase in the lexicon of every Western speaking person. Everyone's

13:31 Speaker 4: heard the term mama bear. It was easy to remember.

13:34 Speaker 4: And then two it was also kind of cheeky and

13:36 Speaker 4: sarcastic because I'm not making soft music right so I

13:40 Speaker 4: but I also think it was kind of it kind

13:42 Speaker 4: of worked against me too, because like even my father

13:45 Speaker 4: would be like, there's a terrible name. I'm like, you

13:47 Speaker 4: just don't get it. But so anthems means the most

13:50 Speaker 4: to me because it's a it's a functioning, living organism

13:54 Speaker 4: where Mama Bear.

13:55 Speaker 2: I haven't really recorded.

13:56 Speaker 4: Anything under the name of Mama Bear since I got

13:58 Speaker 4: back from England and twenty three and so the Kyle

14:02 Speaker 4: Gordon project is kind of I'm just like, I've been

14:06 Speaker 4: sitting on these songs for a little while because I

14:09 Speaker 4: really liked them and I wanted to do it right.

14:11 Speaker 4: I wanted to promote them correctly, and I hooked up

14:14 Speaker 4: with some people in Wales, Ian and Ange of we believe. Yes,

14:19 Speaker 4: they're a husband wife's team and they are just the

14:21 Speaker 4: salt of the earth's best people. Ian's Ian's one of

14:25 Speaker 4: my best friends in the whole world, and they're they're

14:28 Speaker 4: the one the reason you and I are talking is

14:30 Speaker 4: because of them.

14:31 Speaker 3: Yeah.

14:31 Speaker 4: So they They've been a huge Mama Bear fan. They've

14:35 Speaker 4: toured me around the UK twice and then they hooked

14:39 Speaker 4: me up with Big pr which hooked me up with you.

14:42 Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just.

14:44 Speaker 4: Thankful, man, Like I just I don't even remember your question.

14:47 Speaker 4: I think I've just been wandering off.

14:49 Speaker 3: No, that's my words. No, that's okay.

14:51 Speaker 2: No.

14:52 Speaker 1: I was curious if there was a sort of a

14:53 Speaker 1: priority or a hierarchy in terms of what is most

14:57 Speaker 1: most important right now.

14:58 Speaker 2: But I just thought.

15:00 Speaker 4: On the success if I get me. You know, all

15:03 Speaker 4: the projects have something cool about them. Yeah, and I

15:06 Speaker 4: believe in all three of them. And the Kyle Warden

15:09 Speaker 4: project is is the newest in terms of just like

15:13 Speaker 4: in my world, the sexy thing because it's new and

15:16 Speaker 4: outside of my wheelhouse. But one thing, I want to

15:19 Speaker 4: make a piano album next. Really, I think that'd be

15:22 Speaker 4: really fun. Yeah, make like a piano like Sunday Afternoon music.

15:27 Speaker 4: And then I met this guy that plays really awesome

15:29 Speaker 4: jazz in Atlanta and I were kind of messing around, like, Okay,

15:32 Speaker 4: I got to make a job.

15:35 Speaker 2: It's just while I'm alive.

15:36 Speaker 4: I want to make as much music as I can

15:38 Speaker 4: before I'm gone.

15:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good policy, definitely.

15:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get I get morbid like that. I'm like, no,

15:45 Speaker 2: I got this idea in my head.

15:46 Speaker 4: I got to get it out. What if I die?

15:48 Speaker 4: You know, I just it may not be the best

15:50 Speaker 4: idea in the world, but I believe. I believe in

15:52 Speaker 4: it's that girl, that's beautiful.

15:54 Speaker 2: I'll be done in that.

15:54 Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, no worries.

15:58 Speaker 1: I'm curious, what was your first instrument, because you mentioned,

16:01 Speaker 1: because obviously you play multiple instruments.

16:03 Speaker 3: What did you start with?

16:05 Speaker 4: I started with the trumpet in really sixth grade class,

16:10 Speaker 4: and I wasn't I wasn't inspired or very good. It's

16:13 Speaker 4: just it was what I started with.

16:14 Speaker 2: Yeah.

16:15 Speaker 4: I grew up listening to music with my mother, and

16:19 Speaker 4: I remember, like it's.

16:21 Speaker 2: Kinda step outside.

16:22 Speaker 4: I remember like listening to music with her, and you know,

16:25 Speaker 4: now we call it the hook or whatever that part

16:28 Speaker 4: of the song is they grab you. I remember as

16:31 Speaker 4: a little kid, I I couldn't wrap my head around music,

16:36 Speaker 4: and whenever the songs felt really good, I would I'd

16:40 Speaker 4: feel it really deep, and I asked my mom, what

16:43 Speaker 4: is that? Why does that feel so good. Yeah, and

16:46 Speaker 4: I thought that every song utilized the same thing. Oh,

16:50 Speaker 4: it's just that feel good part. So I think music

16:53 Speaker 4: just kind of struck me like it was intriguing. I

16:56 Speaker 4: couldn't wrap my head around it, and in particular twelve Silverhammer,

17:03 Speaker 4: when I would listen to that song as a kid,

17:05 Speaker 4: I was like, this sounds like a cartoon. It sounds like,

17:08 Speaker 4: you know, like Saturday morning cartoon music. And so, you know,

17:14 Speaker 4: just just this idea that something you can't hold, taste,

17:19 Speaker 4: feel or see it has such an impact on you,

17:22 Speaker 4: like never really left me. Yeah, And eventually, I guess

17:28 Speaker 4: I started playing trumpet just as an extracurricular thing from school.

17:31 Speaker 4: It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to be the neck

17:33 Speaker 4: where the big trumpet guy is at showing my ignorance

17:36 Speaker 4: right now. It wasn't like that. It's more like something

17:39 Speaker 4: to do. But my my real first instrument was a guitar,

17:44 Speaker 4: like every other jerkey, just figuring it out. And I

17:48 Speaker 4: was terrible for a long time, and to this day

17:52 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm kind of okay at it. It's insane

17:56 Speaker 4: how I've been playing guitar for a million years now

17:59 Speaker 4: and I'm i consider myself a very middle guitar player.

18:04 Speaker 4: I don't make it scream.

18:06 Speaker 2: That ain't my job.

18:07 Speaker 4: My job is to I was always really intrigued with

18:09 Speaker 4: the songwriter of the band. You know, it wasn't the

18:13 Speaker 4: it wasn't the front man, or it wasn't the good

18:16 Speaker 4: looking girl that could sell it, which God bless her,

18:18 Speaker 4: we need her, we need him. But I was always intrigued,

18:21 Speaker 4: Like I love Oasis, but I'm the no guy, Okay,

18:25 Speaker 4: who wrote the song that makes you, that changed your world?

18:29 Speaker 4: Forget who sung it, but who wrote it. I'm a

18:32 Speaker 4: big I'm a big fan of the writer of the bands.

18:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense.

18:37 Speaker 1: And then so you also play it turns me on

18:39 Speaker 1: you mentioned too, you play drums, and I assume you

18:42 Speaker 1: play bass.

18:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I play all I play all that.

18:45 Speaker 3: And keyboard, I assume, right, yes I do.

18:49 Speaker 2: I bought it.

18:49 Speaker 4: I didn't buy I got a piano off Craigslist about

18:52 Speaker 4: three years ago. It's simering my sun room. I sit

18:55 Speaker 4: around and I'm yeah, and I knew how to play,

18:58 Speaker 4: you know, first position major and minor chords, up and

19:01 Speaker 4: down the keyboards because it's just twelve notes, right. But

19:04 Speaker 4: now I'm learning second third position. I'm trying to get

19:07 Speaker 4: some separation between my right and my left hands.

19:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, I go.

19:12 Speaker 4: While they had their hand go. And so I'm trying

19:14 Speaker 4: to learn all that and it's a lot of fun.

19:17 Speaker 4: I love to just sit there and tinker on the piano.

19:19 Speaker 2: It is.

19:20 Speaker 4: It is very liberating.

19:22 Speaker 1: I've heard so many, uh so many music professors and

19:25 Speaker 1: instructors say that whether you're just starting out or whether

19:29 Speaker 1: you already play other instruments, you know, being at least

19:33 Speaker 1: somewhat proficient on the keyboard will help you with literally

19:36 Speaker 1: everything else that you play.

19:38 Speaker 4: Oh dude, Yeah, Well it's so linear, you know, like

19:41 Speaker 4: with the guitar, it's slightly metaphorical. You've got half steps

19:45 Speaker 4: as a.

19:46 Speaker 2: Fret, whole steps, two frets.

19:47 Speaker 4: Okay, my mind's already kind of bobbled by that, and

19:49 Speaker 4: then the B string is half step off, so then

19:52 Speaker 4: you got that one key little string. Now the keyboard

19:54 Speaker 4: it's just ABC des all the way down the line, repeat, repeat, repeat,

19:58 Speaker 4: And so yeah, it's very linear. And when I play

20:00 Speaker 4: the piano, I play it much differently than I played

20:03 Speaker 4: the guitar. Yeah, and it's just because I've developed the

20:07 Speaker 4: style of the guitar, and so now I'm trying to

20:09 Speaker 4: figure out what's my style on the piano. Yes, and

20:11 Speaker 4: it's intriguing and it's fun, and I wish I had

20:13 Speaker 4: learned twenty years ago.

20:15 Speaker 2: I had taken it.

20:17 Speaker 4: Way more seriously, because I'm way more artistic on the

20:20 Speaker 4: piano than I'm on a guitar. Okay, So, but the

20:23 Speaker 4: good news is I hopefully I still got some life

20:25 Speaker 4: left in me and we'll get something out of it.

20:27 Speaker 2: Sooner or later.

20:28 Speaker 4: I said I want to make a piano album. I'm

20:30 Speaker 4: just I got to learn how to play the piano.

20:33 Speaker 3: Right, right, of course, of course.

20:36 Speaker 4: I guess I got to learn to walk before I've run.

20:39 Speaker 3: Now, what is the So you mentioned an album?

20:41 Speaker 1: So you're going to do a full album of Kyle

20:43 Speaker 1: Gordon of that project specifically.

20:46 Speaker 2: Okay, it's already made. It's done.

20:49 Speaker 3: Oh, it's done. Can Oh excellent?

20:51 Speaker 4: Do you have any kind of an I'm going to

20:53 Speaker 4: put out each song individually.

20:55 Speaker 3: Oh.

20:55 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're aware of this, but people

20:57 Speaker 4: don't buy music anymore, so I'm just going to put

21:00 Speaker 4: out singles and then eventually I'll just put them all

21:04 Speaker 4: out under the name, under a name, and the goal

21:07 Speaker 4: is to get back in the studio. I've already got

21:09 Speaker 4: a my buddy, and I've already got a follow up song,

21:13 Speaker 4: a couple of follow up songs to the album. So

21:16 Speaker 4: it's mainly just like governing what project gets what very

21:21 Speaker 4: few finances I have at the time. Sure, and as

21:25 Speaker 4: of right now, Anthems is a functioning band. We just

21:28 Speaker 4: played a show last week. They went really well and

21:32 Speaker 4: and uh we're recording that, so kind of like my my,

21:35 Speaker 4: what I have financially right now is going into Anthems.

21:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, understood, understood, But uh, but I do look

21:42 Speaker 1: forward to hearing more of the well, I'll check out

21:44 Speaker 1: the other stuff too, but I look forward to hearing

21:45 Speaker 1: more of of the Kyle Gordon project.

21:48 Speaker 2: Yeah.

21:48 Speaker 4: Man, it's it's I mean, I really believe in it, dude.

21:50 Speaker 4: I've been sitting on it for a few years because

21:53 Speaker 4: I've wanted to. Uh, I wanted to be in a

21:55 Speaker 4: mental place where I could just focus on it. And

21:59 Speaker 4: I guess it doesn't make much sense, but what I

22:01 Speaker 4: mean is, uh, like I just knew I had something

22:05 Speaker 4: kind of cool and different, and I'm not And to

22:10 Speaker 4: answer your question earlier, I'm not playing it live because

22:13 Speaker 4: I would need like eight people, you know, to reproduce

22:17 Speaker 4: that sound on stage. So I have done a few

22:20 Speaker 4: solo Kyle Gordon shows where I just show up with

22:23 Speaker 4: an electric guitar and I was saying and all that, Yeah, and.

22:26 Speaker 2: It's cool, it's cool.

22:27 Speaker 4: But I'm not like a I'm not like a super

22:29 Speaker 4: stellar solo guy.

22:31 Speaker 2: You know.

22:31 Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for Ed Sheeran. For example.

22:34 Speaker 4: I don't like his music, but damn if I don't

22:36 Speaker 4: respect darn if I don't respect him.

22:38 Speaker 2: Like.

22:41 Speaker 4: I could say the D word, that was okay, so

22:44 Speaker 4: because yeah, he can sell it.

22:46 Speaker 2: I don't like what he's saying.

22:47 Speaker 4: But but man, I got respect because I've tried to

22:50 Speaker 4: do it and it ain't easy. So yeah, it's not

22:53 Speaker 4: my bread and butter. I'm much better with an ensemble.

22:56 Speaker 4: I can lean into stronger musicians than myself. In fact,

22:59 Speaker 4: I have a maxim and it's if I'm on stage,

23:01 Speaker 4: I have to be the least talented person, and if

23:04 Speaker 4: I'm the least talented person on stage, We're gonna have

23:06 Speaker 4: a great show.

23:07 Speaker 3: There you go. I like that. I like that a lot.

23:09 Speaker 1: And by the way, I agree with you on Ed share,

23:11 Speaker 1: and I feel the same way about him. You know,

23:12 Speaker 1: I respect him. I respect the hell out of him.

23:15 Speaker 1: You can say hell too, but uh but I don't.

23:18 Speaker 3: But I don't know.

23:19 Speaker 2: I don't like what he says.

23:20 Speaker 4: But yeah him, if he's not really good at doing it.

23:25 Speaker 4: I don't buy into the whole Oh he's not cool.

23:27 Speaker 4: I mean screw that stuff.

23:28 Speaker 2: Like, I don't.

23:29 Speaker 4: I dipped out on that whole like cool scene a

23:32 Speaker 4: long time ago, because cool just means insecure, you know,

23:35 Speaker 4: it just means you're so insecure. You're gonna let everyone

23:38 Speaker 4: know how insecure you.

23:40 Speaker 2: So.

23:41 Speaker 4: Let Ed Sharon be Ed, whatever the hell's name is.

23:44 Speaker 4: Let him be him. He's not in your way, he's

23:47 Speaker 4: not hurting you. He's just crushing his short life. You

23:50 Speaker 4: have a problem with that because you have a problem

23:52 Speaker 4: with yourself whatever.

23:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, I agree.

23:56 Speaker 4: I don't care about the cool stuff like that. To me,

23:59 Speaker 4: it's I've got two kids right now, and they're very young.

24:03 Speaker 4: They don't understand anything I say yet, but I'm teaching

24:06 Speaker 4: them that like cool is actually just understanding quiet wisdom

24:12 Speaker 4: and acceptance. That's what makes you cool. Not saying a

24:15 Speaker 4: bad word because you think bad.

24:17 Speaker 2: Words are cool, big kids say bad word.

24:19 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I know, I'm kind

24:20 Speaker 4: of breaking it down, But it's the same with music

24:23 Speaker 4: and the whole identity people put into music. I feel

24:26 Speaker 4: kind of diminishes the power of the music. Like forget

24:29 Speaker 4: your suit. You know, Oh you're a metal guy, so

24:32 Speaker 4: you dress like a metal guy. Okay, cool, I get it.

24:35 Speaker 4: What you only listen to metal or this or that?

24:38 Speaker 2: And right? You know?

24:39 Speaker 4: And another reason I really don't like pop is because

24:41 Speaker 4: it's so unreal. No one's cool. Everyone, everyone smells bad,

24:47 Speaker 4: everyone wakes up feeling weird, like no one is cool.

24:49 Speaker 2: Right.

24:51 Speaker 4: This image we're pushed on with pop music and the

24:54 Speaker 4: sleek side of music is so false and so fake.

24:58 Speaker 3: Sure, so absolutely, yeah, Okay.

25:01 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get off my soapbox. I'm sorry.

25:03 Speaker 3: No, No, it's good though. No, No, it's good though.

25:04 Speaker 3: I like.

25:05 Speaker 1: I like what you're saying. Absolutely In terms of in

25:10 Speaker 1: terms of the Kyle Gordon project, I mean, are you

25:13 Speaker 1: does is there an image that will that will take

25:16 Speaker 1: shape with this.

25:17 Speaker 3: Or or or are you?

25:20 Speaker 1: Are you just completely not worried about that part and

25:22 Speaker 1: it's more just about just putting out the songs putting

25:24 Speaker 1: out the music.

25:26 Speaker 4: Okay, when I heard your question, what I heard was

25:29 Speaker 4: I I pictured like, am I gonna go full Zeggy

25:33 Speaker 4: Star does this? Or something like I don't have any plans. Yeah,

25:38 Speaker 4: Like at this point, I'm very comfortable with who I am. Yeah,

25:41 Speaker 4: I'm a very flawed person, and I bring those flaws

25:46 Speaker 4: onto the stage. Yeah, and I think that's what makes

25:48 Speaker 4: me relatable.

25:49 Speaker 3: Yeah.

25:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so no, I don't really have any plans

25:54 Speaker 4: with the Kyle Gordon project because I'm not even sure

25:58 Speaker 4: it's ever getting heard, you know what I mean, Like

26:01 Speaker 4: at this point, like I stopped making music videos about

26:03 Speaker 4: five years ago, really says for one, yeah, I for one,

26:07 Speaker 4: I hate making them. Two it's a lot of work,

26:11 Speaker 4: a lot of time. And then three, no one really cares.

26:13 Speaker 2: And that's fine, Like, you know, I get it.

26:16 Speaker 4: You know, they upload like seven million things a day

26:18 Speaker 4: on YouTube. We're just going to get lost of that.

26:20 Speaker 4: And if you're not willing to give a billionaire a

26:23 Speaker 4: few extra bucks, you're just going to get buried in

26:25 Speaker 4: the UK. And then so once I realized that there's

26:27 Speaker 4: a gatekeeper society with music, it's all been monetized to

26:31 Speaker 4: the point where you can't even do anything anymore. No,

26:35 Speaker 4: I don't have any projects and any idea on how

26:37 Speaker 4: I'm gonna sell this thing other than the fact that

26:40 Speaker 4: I'm just going to slap my face on it and

26:42 Speaker 4: be honest. Yeah, I've got a really good friend named

26:46 Speaker 4: Ben Underwood that lives in Asheville, North Carolina, and he

26:51 Speaker 4: makes the most delicious creative collages. Like the stuff he

26:56 Speaker 4: comes up with is so cool, and he's been so

26:59 Speaker 4: nice to create two covers for me. Yeah, I just

27:03 Speaker 4: send them a batch of like selfies I took, oh

27:06 Speaker 4: my hair looks good today clip, So I send him

27:09 Speaker 4: that and he just slaps my face onto one of

27:11 Speaker 4: his collages. And that's what she chose me as one

27:14 Speaker 4: of his collages. And yeah, so in terms of the presentation,

27:20 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with that kind of look. Yeah man, No,

27:24 Speaker 4: no star in the eye. I'm not gonna stuff as

27:27 Speaker 4: stock in my pants. I'm just gonna go out and

27:32 Speaker 4: and I don't even have any plans to play it live.

27:35 Speaker 4: It's who want to and there's a demand, then I'll

27:37 Speaker 4: figure that out. But you know, like, uh, the like

27:43 Speaker 4: she chose me as actually getting more radio play than

27:45 Speaker 4: I've gotten in years, but my day to day hasn't

27:47 Speaker 4: changed in the least, you know. I mean, like, yeah,

27:50 Speaker 4: it's it's it's still just a wonderful It's Saturday, right,

27:54 Speaker 4: It's a wonderful Saturday, you know, And so if something

27:58 Speaker 4: comes of it, then you know, I'll put a little

27:59 Speaker 4: more effort into it. But yeah, in terms of the

28:02 Speaker 4: way I look at it is I just I really

28:04 Speaker 4: want to make a follow up to it, to be

28:06 Speaker 4: honest with you. Yeah, so right now I'm just kind

28:10 Speaker 4: of like writing songs with anthems, coming up with ideas

28:14 Speaker 4: of my own, and just kind of dreaming.

28:16 Speaker 2: You know.

28:16 Speaker 4: This is like the this is the part where things

28:18 Speaker 4: are slow and you're just kind of figuring out what's next. Sure,

28:21 Speaker 4: and then get in the studio and then that's the

28:24 Speaker 4: real magic is just watching a song evolve in the studio.

28:28 Speaker 4: Is It is an intoxicating feeling. I've never gotten tired of.

28:32 Speaker 1: It's cool that you like that, though, because not everyone does,

28:35 Speaker 1: you know. I mean a lot of musicians love being

28:37 Speaker 1: in the studio, but a lot of musicians too, as

28:39 Speaker 1: as you know, are like, oh, I just want to

28:42 Speaker 1: be on stage and they and they actually dread being

28:44 Speaker 1: in the studio, you know, So it's cool that you're

28:46 Speaker 1: able to embrace that, because not everyone can embrace.

28:49 Speaker 2: That kind of like, that's that's your that's your right.

28:53 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, it's kind of like camping.

28:55 Speaker 1: You know, not everyone can embrace it, and uh, you

28:57 Speaker 1: and I do not embrace that, and people think we're

29:00 Speaker 1: weird for embracing that.

29:02 Speaker 2: But I've worked with a I work with a really

29:05 Speaker 2: great guy down here land.

29:06 Speaker 4: I mentioned him earlier. His name is Chris Sampson. Yeah,

29:08 Speaker 4: and he's worked with everyone from the Beach fifty two's

29:11 Speaker 4: to me, and he's very well known. He's extremely talented,

29:16 Speaker 4: and he's like, he's not gonna lie to you.

29:19 Speaker 2: And he and I have known.

29:20 Speaker 4: Each other for a long time, so we're very close

29:22 Speaker 4: friends as well. So when we're recording, he'll be like,

29:25 Speaker 4: that was terrible. You can do better and just shoot

29:27 Speaker 4: it straight at me. And I really have learned to

29:31 Speaker 4: embrace like the vagueness of the studio.

29:35 Speaker 2: Yeah.

29:37 Speaker 4: The songs I can't stand that I wrote the most

29:39 Speaker 4: are the ones that I had all planned out and

29:42 Speaker 4: then I executed them exactly how I planned.

29:45 Speaker 2: And then I got exactly what.

29:47 Speaker 4: I wanted and I hate it.

29:48 Speaker 3: Oh wow.

29:49 Speaker 4: So yeah, with the Kyle Gordon project again, we just

29:53 Speaker 4: came up with a few rules in the beginning. It

29:54 Speaker 4: was like, for one, we're just going to try it.

29:56 Speaker 4: We're not going to do anything we've done in the past. Yes,

29:58 Speaker 4: and that's very liberating. That means I'm no longer tied

30:02 Speaker 4: to the things that I didn't enjoy in the past,

30:05 Speaker 4: which opens up the door to all kinds of cool

30:07 Speaker 4: opportunities and new ideas. Sure, but they never even like,

30:10 Speaker 4: never even fathomed. So with his push that oh you

30:14 Speaker 4: can do better.

30:14 Speaker 2: You can do better or and.

30:16 Speaker 4: Then then the happiest one went is like oh yeah,

30:18 Speaker 4: and he starts getting real excited. I'm like, okay, now

30:21 Speaker 4: I'm cooking, you know, yeah, and we're going to focus

30:23 Speaker 4: on this thing now.

30:25 Speaker 2: So No, I love being in the studio. I love

30:27 Speaker 2: being on stage.

30:28 Speaker 4: The one the only thing I don't like about being

30:30 Speaker 4: a musician is hanging around a venue for like five

30:34 Speaker 4: hours way into play. Yeah, I hate that stuff. I

30:37 Speaker 4: hate it. I hate it.

30:38 Speaker 2: I hate it.

30:39 Speaker 4: I get so bored and it's like the whole hurry

30:43 Speaker 4: up and wait thing. That's that's one of my least

30:46 Speaker 4: favorite but when you're on tour, it's a little different

30:48 Speaker 4: because at least I'm in a place I've never run

30:50 Speaker 4: at and often or i'm revisiting, I can walk around

30:53 Speaker 4: the neighborhood, you know, like that's great. I love that.

30:56 Speaker 3: But no, I can relate though, so I don't play

30:59 Speaker 3: it more.

31:00 Speaker 1: But I used to be, you know, I was in

31:01 Speaker 1: a bunch of bands and whatnot before I decided to

31:03 Speaker 1: focus more on the radio and podcasting part of what

31:06 Speaker 1: I do. But yeah, I always I used to really

31:09 Speaker 1: struggle with that when you're when you're waiting for a

31:12 Speaker 1: really long time to play, it's like it's my.

31:16 Speaker 4: Least favorite thing absolutely, especially my own hometown, you know, like, yeah,

31:21 Speaker 4: it's yeah, so.

31:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's that's to me, the least favorite

31:25 Speaker 2: for it. But everything else is fun.

31:27 Speaker 4: I love the community, I love meeting people. I love

31:31 Speaker 4: the energy exchange between the crowd and the bands.

31:34 Speaker 2: And yeah, dude, it shows me. I didn't. I didn't.

31:39 Speaker 4: I had no idea this is gonna be my life.

31:41 Speaker 4: As soon as I got into it, it's you know,

31:43 Speaker 4: it's the only thing I really stayed on too, you.

31:46 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, well, uh, Kyle, the time goes quickly.

31:52 Speaker 3: We got to begin to wrap up.

31:54 Speaker 1: But before we do, and by the way, at the

31:56 Speaker 1: end of our conversation, I'm gonna play, I'm gonna cheat

31:58 Speaker 1: and play she shows me again because I love that song, dude.

32:03 Speaker 3: Like I said, it's perfect, It's just perfect.

32:05 Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's make sure that I

32:08 Speaker 1: want our listeners to know where's the best Where are

32:11 Speaker 1: the best places to go online to keep up with

32:12 Speaker 1: everything that you're doing, not just the Kyle Gordon project

32:15 Speaker 1: of course, Anthems and Mama Bear and everything.

32:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, the only, the only, like social media. I really

32:21 Speaker 4: play with his Instagram, Okay, I don't you can find

32:26 Speaker 4: all the projects I think across the board you were

32:29 Speaker 4: streaming on Apple YouTube or all the things Spotify, all

32:33 Speaker 4: the things. Anthems is spelled A N, T H M

32:38 Speaker 4: Z okay.

32:40 Speaker 2: And then Mama Bear.

32:42 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's an Atlanta thing, but all

32:44 Speaker 4: my bands are spelled on purpose. Mama Bear is one

32:46 Speaker 4: word M A M, M A D E A R.

32:49 Speaker 4: Okay there because Mama has two m's in it. I

32:52 Speaker 4: don't care who I'm Southern. I like to put in

32:54 Speaker 4: extra continents and sounds. So and then Kyle Gordon is

32:58 Speaker 4: just my name. So you can find me streaming down

33:02 Speaker 4: the musical rivers on the internet wherever you want to

33:05 Speaker 4: find me. And then if you want to stay hi

33:07 Speaker 4: or something, hit me up on Instagram. And I hope

33:11 Speaker 4: everyone has a great day. And I really appreciate your time.

33:13 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

33:14 Speaker 4: Sorry for saying the word earlier.

33:15 Speaker 1: That's okay. Like I said, we're on a delay. It's

33:17 Speaker 1: not even a big deal. I caught it. It's no

33:19 Speaker 1: big tru trust me. You are not the first.

33:23 Speaker 2: It's good.

33:24 Speaker 3: It's all good, my friend.

33:25 Speaker 4: I didn't invent the word that cheers.

33:28 Speaker 2: Man.

33:28 Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.

33:29 Speaker 2: Well.

33:29 Speaker 4: I really really appreciate your time, man, Yes much.

33:32 Speaker 3: Thank you, Kyle.

33:32 Speaker 1: We appreciate you joining us. We will definitely do this

33:34 Speaker 1: in the future. And I can't wait to hear I

33:36 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear the next uh, the next Kyle

33:38 Speaker 1: Gordon song. Absolutely, but uh, we'll.

33:40 Speaker 2: Let you go. We're gonna hit the today.

33:43 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you got it, my friend. All right, Kyle,

33:45 Speaker 3: take care.

33:47 Speaker 4: I have a nice day, everybody take care.

33:48 Speaker 3: Ye bye bye. All right.

33:50 Speaker 1: That was the great Kyle Gordon and we're gonna play

33:53 Speaker 1: this again if you missed it, and if you didn't

33:55 Speaker 1: miss it, you probably want to hear it again because

33:57 Speaker 1: it's so good. I love this song he Chose Me

34:00 Speaker 1: And this is Kyle Gordon