Cami Nyx | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: That is catchy as hell. That is Greedy. That's the

0:03 Speaker 1: name of the track. That is Cammy next, and we're

0:05 Speaker 1: going to talk with Cammy in just a moment. Welcome everybody.

0:08 Speaker 1: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We have entered our number

0:10 Speaker 1: three new Marrow Trace on this Saturday, July five, twenty

0:15 Speaker 1: twenty five. Thank you all for joining us. And Jenny

0:18 Speaker 1: is here, of course, is at the news table, presented

0:21 Speaker 1: accounted for. I think almost at news Desko seeing old school.

0:24 Speaker 1: It's a table and uh let's see Campy here. Bring

0:28 Speaker 1: Cammy on here. Cammy are you there?

0:31 Speaker 2: Hi, Yes, I'm here.

0:32 Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. We just started using Google Teams recently,

0:36 Speaker 1: so it's still a little bit of an adventure.

0:39 Speaker 2: So okay, cool.

0:40 Speaker 1: So I'm always relieved when the guest is connected and

0:42 Speaker 1: everything's good. Welcome to the show. I love that song Greedy.

0:45 Speaker 1: It's very very catchy.

0:47 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you for having.

0:49 Speaker 1: Me absolutely absolutely. Uh So, where are you from?

0:54 Speaker 2: Originally Columbus, Ohio, but I live in Nashville.

0:57 Speaker 1: Now, okay, okay, what's it like living in Nashville, Because

1:01 Speaker 1: you know, we've had we've had a lot of guests

1:04 Speaker 1: on the show who have traveled there, but you know,

1:07 Speaker 1: maybe to spend a weekend or a week there. But

1:09 Speaker 1: I don't think we've had anybody on the show who

1:12 Speaker 1: lives there currently. And obviously Nashville known for being for music.

1:16 Speaker 1: I mean, is is it a lot of pressure there

1:19 Speaker 1: living there and being a part of the scene there

1:21 Speaker 1: or what's that like?

1:23 Speaker 2: It is definitely interesting, there's a lot of pressure, but

1:27 Speaker 2: more so I just say, it's very saturated, so it's

1:31 Speaker 2: really really difficult to get your foot in the door.

1:34 Speaker 2: But at the same time, because it's so saturated, there's

1:37 Speaker 2: so many people to work with and so many people

1:39 Speaker 2: to network with. Yeah, and it's such a good community

1:42 Speaker 2: of people, but it is very tricky to kind of

1:47 Speaker 2: get going and get a name for yourself.

1:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine it is. But

1:52 Speaker 1: that's that's a great place to be for what you're doing,

1:55 Speaker 1: and it's it might cut against some of the ideas,

1:58 Speaker 1: some of the preconceptions too that people about Nashville, because

2:01 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people when they hear Nashville,

2:04 Speaker 1: especially people not in the industry, they think of country music.

2:06 Speaker 1: But it's more than just country music and obviously, you

2:08 Speaker 1: know what you're doing is in country. I don't know

2:11 Speaker 1: if you have any country songs, but but really, I

2:14 Speaker 1: mean there's all kinds of music happening there, and there's

2:16 Speaker 1: all kinds of connections you can make and people to

2:17 Speaker 1: work with.

2:18 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, definitely. I think it has the stigma that

2:21 Speaker 2: it's country music because that's what it started as. But

2:25 Speaker 2: it's really any and every genre, and it is more

2:28 Speaker 2: so just the music city, as people call it, and

2:32 Speaker 2: this is where everyone comes to record, even non country people.

2:36 Speaker 2: They all record in the studios here or work with

2:38 Speaker 2: people here, or have session players from Nashville. Because these

2:43 Speaker 2: people are very talented and they can play any genre.

2:46 Speaker 2: They can do anything. So yeah, it's it's any genre really.

2:50 Speaker 1: Absolutely. How long have you lived there?

2:53 Speaker 2: This is my sixth year living here?

2:55 Speaker 1: Oh believe, Oh you've been there a long time? Okay? Great?

2:58 Speaker 2: Great to college here. So I moved when I was seventeen?

3:03 Speaker 1: Oh outstanding? Okay? Was greedy? Was that recorded there? See?

3:09 Speaker 2: It was? Yeah?

3:10 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very cool? Now what about so you started

3:14 Speaker 1: pretty young? I would imagine you're from Ohio originally you said, right, yes,

3:18 Speaker 1: were you involved in music before moving to Nashville, I assume.

3:22 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you moved there for school, but

3:24 Speaker 1: growing up you said, was a Columbus, Ohio.

3:27 Speaker 2: You said, yeah, Columbus, Ohio. I grew up there and

3:32 Speaker 2: was definitely involved in music, and specifically musical theater. I

3:36 Speaker 2: did a lot of that as a kid in like

3:38 Speaker 2: growing up and in all throughout my life. In high

3:41 Speaker 2: school everything I was known as like the musical kid

3:44 Speaker 2: in my town. And I ran all the music programs.

3:48 Speaker 2: I was the president of all these different choirs and

3:51 Speaker 2: small ensembles, and I did all the community theater shows

3:55 Speaker 2: and this, that and the other. So I was definitely

3:57 Speaker 2: musically inclined from a very young age, and that just

4:01 Speaker 2: kind of became my thing. And I didn't really do sports.

4:05 Speaker 2: It was always just music. And so I made the

4:08 Speaker 2: decision to Originally I was going to go to college

4:11 Speaker 2: for musical theater because I thought that I liked that,

4:14 Speaker 2: but I then quickly realized I just liked the singing

4:17 Speaker 2: part of it. I didn't care about the acting or

4:20 Speaker 2: the dancing. I just wanted some like someplace to sing

4:23 Speaker 2: in front of people. Sure, So then I pivoted and

4:26 Speaker 2: moved to Nashville to do music no, that makes sense.

4:29 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean doing music that was clearly inevitable,

4:33 Speaker 1: you know, given you your background and everything that you

4:35 Speaker 1: did growing up. So that's that's great. Now, how many?

4:39 Speaker 1: So you have several singles out? I know, have you

4:42 Speaker 1: have you recorded an album or an EP yet or

4:44 Speaker 1: is that on your radar?

4:47 Speaker 2: It's not currently on my radar. I have four singles

4:50 Speaker 2: out right now, and I'm kind of just riding the

4:54 Speaker 2: singles wave because I think as a smaller independent artist,

5:00 Speaker 2: it's pretty difficult to put out an EP or an

5:03 Speaker 2: album and expect people to listen to the whole thing. Yeah,

5:07 Speaker 2: because that's a lot easier when you have a big

5:10 Speaker 2: following and people want to sit down and listen to it.

5:12 Speaker 2: But I would rather create singles and put them out

5:15 Speaker 2: one at a time and give them a bunch of

5:17 Speaker 2: attention or as much as I can, and that way

5:20 Speaker 2: they get kind of the spotlight for a second, rather

5:23 Speaker 2: than putting out like a forty five minute long album

5:27 Speaker 2: and hoping that people will listen to it.

5:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense. It's a lot of

5:32 Speaker 1: artists it's very important to them to do albums. But

5:36 Speaker 1: there's I don't remember who it was we were talking

5:38 Speaker 1: to about this, but we had a guest on the

5:40 Speaker 1: show recently talking about how when you put out an album,

5:44 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, in terms of algorithms, like on Spotify,

5:48 Speaker 1: for example, you get that initial boost of okay, here's

5:51 Speaker 1: something new. You know, it might show up in your suggestions,

5:54 Speaker 1: here's something you might like, whether it be Spotify or

5:56 Speaker 1: even on YouTube or wherever. But but you get that

5:59 Speaker 1: big bump, that little not even a big bump, but

6:02 Speaker 1: you get that little extra push once with the album

6:05 Speaker 1: and then that's it. Whereas if you just release a

6:09 Speaker 1: series of singles. With every single you get that little

6:11 Speaker 1: push algorithmically speaking, and so that ends up being a

6:17 Speaker 1: little bit of a more sustainable strategy. Although some of

6:22 Speaker 1: the guests too that we've had on the show recently,

6:24 Speaker 1: they've kind of inverted, you know, because the old approach,

6:27 Speaker 1: you know, sort of pre internet, was you release an

6:29 Speaker 1: album and then a series of singles to radio. And

6:32 Speaker 1: some artists now they release a series of singles that

6:34 Speaker 1: eventually coalesce into an album or any exactly. Yeah, but

6:38 Speaker 1: what you're doing, I think that's.

6:40 Speaker 2: More than norm I think now as people putting out

6:43 Speaker 2: singles and then they release like an EP, but it's

6:46 Speaker 2: just all of the singles they've already put out.

6:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now in terms of you, uh, in

6:52 Speaker 1: terms of your songs, the songs that you've put out,

6:54 Speaker 1: are these all written by you or do you have

6:57 Speaker 1: I'm really curious about this, especially given where you are geographically,

7:00 Speaker 1: because you have so many you know, you're just surrounded

7:04 Speaker 1: by all kinds of talent. So I'm curious about your

7:07 Speaker 1: process and who you collaborate with or maybe you do

7:09 Speaker 1: it all your own. I don't know, but I'm really

7:11 Speaker 1: interested in that.

7:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. I write all of my own songs that are

7:17 Speaker 2: currently out. I've some of them have co writers on them,

7:21 Speaker 2: so people that I worked with, but a few of

7:25 Speaker 2: them were fully just written by me. Start to finish,

7:29 Speaker 2: and then I have a recording studio in town. There's

7:33 Speaker 2: two producers there that I work with, and I bring

7:36 Speaker 2: them my songs, play it for them and see what

7:39 Speaker 2: they think, and then they help me bring it to

7:41 Speaker 2: life and make it what it ends up being. And

7:44 Speaker 2: we do everything in house. It's all real instruments, like

7:48 Speaker 2: we play. It's the two guys and then myself I

7:51 Speaker 2: play a few instruments and so we between the three

7:54 Speaker 2: of us can play every instrument that we need for

7:57 Speaker 2: the track. We record it live and have real instruments,

8:01 Speaker 2: real players, everything, and then they mix and master it

8:05 Speaker 2: for me. And that's kind of been our process for

8:08 Speaker 2: a while. However, I have a single coming out in August,

8:12 Speaker 2: and it's the first time I'm releasing a song that

8:16 Speaker 2: I had no part in writing. I took a cut

8:19 Speaker 2: from some friends that I have that are professional songwriters,

8:23 Speaker 2: and I kind of started to explore this idea of

8:27 Speaker 2: I don't have to do everything myself. I can just

8:30 Speaker 2: be the artist or just be the performer. And there

8:33 Speaker 2: are many talented songwriters here, obviously, and that's what people

8:38 Speaker 2: in the real industry do. These huge, famous people are

8:42 Speaker 2: not writing their songs themselves. They have ten fifteen people

8:47 Speaker 2: helping them write songs, or they don't even write them

8:49 Speaker 2: at all, and they get these cuts from very talented songwriters.

8:53 Speaker 2: So I tried that out and I really liked how

8:56 Speaker 2: the song turned out. So my next single is fully

9:00 Speaker 2: just written by other people.

9:02 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, was it hard to take that step? I mean,

9:06 Speaker 1: was that something did you? Did you go into that

9:10 Speaker 1: saying no, Maybe maybe I will try this and see

9:13 Speaker 1: what happens or was it more like, like, did you

9:15 Speaker 1: have to be kind of coaxed into it? Because that's

9:17 Speaker 1: got to be because that's a big shift, right because,

9:19 Speaker 1: like you said, you were used to doing everything yourself,

9:21 Speaker 1: which gives you a lot of autonomy and control over

9:24 Speaker 1: your material. And to take that step and do something

9:27 Speaker 1: that someone else wrote, was was that difficult or did it?

9:30 Speaker 1: Did it come naturally or what was that?

9:31 Speaker 2: Like? I think it really came naturally. It was my idea.

9:36 Speaker 2: I kind of put feelers out and let people in

9:38 Speaker 2: the industry know, hey, I'm open to cuts. If you

9:42 Speaker 2: have songs that you aren't going to cut or you

9:44 Speaker 2: don't have anybody to cut them, send them my way

9:47 Speaker 2: and I'll listen to them and if they fit my vibe,

9:51 Speaker 2: my overall kind of genre that I'm building for myself.

9:57 Speaker 2: And I took them to my producers too, and we

9:59 Speaker 2: kind of listened to them to together because they know

10:01 Speaker 2: my style, and we decided which ones fit me, which

10:05 Speaker 2: ones didn't fit me, and then narrowed it down to

10:07 Speaker 2: the song that's gonna come out. And I honestly think

10:11 Speaker 2: it wasn't that difficult because I grew up my whole

10:14 Speaker 2: life obviously doing theater, and I was in lots of

10:18 Speaker 2: cover bands and things like that, so I grew up

10:20 Speaker 2: singing other people's songs my whole life. It really wasn't

10:24 Speaker 2: that different, and if it's a good song at the

10:27 Speaker 2: end of the day, I think that's all that matters.

10:29 Speaker 2: And yeah, it wasn't. It really wasn't a hard process.

10:34 Speaker 2: It was. It kind of made it more enjoyable because

10:36 Speaker 2: I wasn't scrutinizing it as much as if it were

10:40 Speaker 2: my own songwriting. I'm much more like, oh, does this

10:43 Speaker 2: sound stupid? I wrote this, these words are probably dumb.

10:46 Speaker 2: But since somebody else wrote it and I very much

10:49 Speaker 2: enjoyed their songwriting already, I just sang it and liked

10:54 Speaker 2: it from the.

10:54 Speaker 1: Start, that makes sense. So it sounds like it was

10:56 Speaker 1: kind of liberating in a way. Yeah, yeah, that's very cool.

11:02 Speaker 1: You mentioned too, So I noticed you went out of

11:03 Speaker 1: your way to put extra emphasis on talking about how

11:06 Speaker 1: everything that you do it's played by real people, real musicians.

11:11 Speaker 1: And it makes me curious because one of the things

11:14 Speaker 1: that we talk about on the show a lot, because

11:16 Speaker 1: we have a lot of sort of industry centric, shall

11:19 Speaker 1: we say, conversations on the show is we talk a

11:22 Speaker 1: lot about AI, the use of AI and music and whatnot,

11:26 Speaker 1: and I'm curious. I suspect based on what you've said

11:30 Speaker 1: that this might be something that you're concerned about, So

11:34 Speaker 1: I'd like to get your thoughts on that, or maybe

11:37 Speaker 1: there's another dimension to it. But I'm really interested because,

11:40 Speaker 1: like I said, you went out of your way to

11:42 Speaker 1: tell us you know this is all real, so obviously

11:45 Speaker 1: there's no none of these parts were created by AI

11:48 Speaker 1: and any of your songs. So I'm curious if you

11:50 Speaker 1: if you have further thoughts on that that you like

11:52 Speaker 1: to share.

11:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because my kind of stance on that

11:58 Speaker 2: started even before A kind of joined the picture. I

12:03 Speaker 2: was always looking for what my niche was in the industry,

12:08 Speaker 2: Like I think everybody has their thing that makes them

12:11 Speaker 2: unique and their genre or it's their sound or this,

12:15 Speaker 2: that and the other. And I realized that I think

12:19 Speaker 2: what makes me unique is that our music is very commercial,

12:23 Speaker 2: it's very commercially successful, but it's all real. And in

12:30 Speaker 2: today's day, most music is not real. It's all done

12:34 Speaker 2: digitally or it can be done digitally. And I went

12:39 Speaker 2: to college here and there were so many people at

12:42 Speaker 2: my school who made full songs in their dorm rooms

12:45 Speaker 2: on their laptop and you would never know that they

12:49 Speaker 2: did it by themselves at midnight, just on their computer.

12:53 Speaker 2: And I wanted something that made us stand out. And

12:57 Speaker 2: I realized, like, hey, we play all this for real,

13:01 Speaker 2: and I don't think a lot of people do that,

13:02 Speaker 2: and I think that's something we should emphasize and tell people,

13:06 Speaker 2: is like this is real. Like this there's someone sitting

13:09 Speaker 2: there actually playing the drums. Every single beat that you hear,

13:12 Speaker 2: he played it, and that's impressive. And I went to

13:16 Speaker 2: school with so many talented musicians, and I was starting

13:19 Speaker 2: to realize these people like won't be needed if we

13:22 Speaker 2: continue down this path. And I think there's something special

13:26 Speaker 2: about someone actually playing it, and especially live. You can't

13:31 Speaker 2: have a live show if someone's not actually playing the instrument,

13:34 Speaker 2: you know. And now it's turned to AI and it

13:39 Speaker 2: is insane what they can do and make, you know,

13:45 Speaker 2: a whole song or parts of a song. So yeah,

13:48 Speaker 2: that's kind of become my shtick and my nichees saying like, hey,

13:53 Speaker 2: this is real, so just keep that in consideration when

13:56 Speaker 2: you're listening to it, Like some guy sat down and

13:58 Speaker 2: played every note on that guitar that you're hearing. So

14:01 Speaker 2: I think that deserves some it deserves to be shouted out,

14:05 Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, get the credit.

14:08 Speaker 1: And so even the drums are live.

14:11 Speaker 2: The drums are live, the bass, the guitar, everything. We

14:15 Speaker 2: usually stack it from the bottom, so he'll will record

14:19 Speaker 2: the drums first, and he does that fully with no

14:23 Speaker 2: other instruments, Like he sits down and will play the

14:26 Speaker 2: entire song from start to finish, just on the drums,

14:29 Speaker 2: and with a really crappy demo that we made, and

14:33 Speaker 2: he can pull out an entire song on the drums,

14:36 Speaker 2: and then we build it from the bottom up. So bass, guitar.

14:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's great, and that's you know, that's how

14:42 Speaker 1: it used to always be done. Although the reason I

14:45 Speaker 1: asked said about the drums specifically is because I've been

14:48 Speaker 1: surprised at various points when you know, even even stuff

14:53 Speaker 1: that was recorded in the eighties that I assumed, you know,

14:56 Speaker 1: just you know, hard rock songs that you know, a

15:00 Speaker 1: little research, and I learned that you know, this was

15:03 Speaker 1: pre AI, but obviously this was you know, we're talking

15:06 Speaker 1: about eighties even early nineties rock where it's like, oh no,

15:10 Speaker 1: they actually did that with a with a drum machine.

15:14 Speaker 1: Those weren't real drums, and it's like, wow, that's uh,

15:17 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of impressive in a way that

15:19 Speaker 1: they were able to create something so real. But at

15:21 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like sometimes it's sometimes if you

15:25 Speaker 1: do a little digging, you'll be really surprised at how

15:27 Speaker 1: much was was not real drums. Yeah, and of course

15:31 Speaker 1: now you can do that with everything.

15:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. I think it is insane, you know,

15:37 Speaker 2: you would assume those things were all real. But yeah,

15:39 Speaker 2: drum machines were huge in the eighties. So a lot

15:41 Speaker 2: of those songs are just programmed and we play everything

15:45 Speaker 2: live maybe here and there they'll get he well, actually,

15:48 Speaker 2: I mean we use samples, but there's samples that they'll

15:51 Speaker 2: make themselves. So yeah, if a tom that he hit

15:54 Speaker 2: during the track wasn't strong enough, he'll go hit the

15:58 Speaker 2: tom one time, take that recording and put it right

16:01 Speaker 2: over the one that maybe he flubbed a little bit,

16:04 Speaker 2: so it's still him playing it. But oh yeah, yeah,

16:07 Speaker 2: that's how you like have to really fix stuff if

16:09 Speaker 2: it's real, you know.

16:11 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta do overdubs. I mean, there's

16:13 Speaker 1: no get there's no getting it. Yeah. Absolutely, but that's

16:17 Speaker 1: just that's just part of the process. Has it been

16:20 Speaker 1: so has it been done that way with every all

16:22 Speaker 1: of the singles that you've released, it's all been done

16:25 Speaker 1: done that same way.

16:27 Speaker 2: Yes, everything I have out is real.

16:30 Speaker 1: That's great.

16:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of we It kind of started that

16:35 Speaker 2: way on accident, and then I started telling people, Hey,

16:39 Speaker 2: this song is real, and then we were like, well,

16:42 Speaker 2: if we're going to keep putting out songs, maybe we

16:43 Speaker 2: should do them all like that and that way they

16:45 Speaker 2: kind of have a cohesive sound. But then also we

16:49 Speaker 2: can continue to tell people and showcase like this is real,

16:52 Speaker 2: Like these are real people that are have years of

16:55 Speaker 2: training and talent that they can showcase.

16:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, No, I think that's great. And then what's

17:01 Speaker 1: the live situation, Like are you playing these songs out?

17:03 Speaker 1: Do you play out a lot? Obviously there's a lot

17:06 Speaker 1: of I know there's a lot of places to play

17:08 Speaker 1: in Nashville, but it's also probably pretty crowded in some ways.

17:11 Speaker 1: But what's that like as far as the live scene

17:15 Speaker 1: and do you get out and tour or how are

17:17 Speaker 1: you doing with that?

17:18 Speaker 2: I this is my third summer that I am playing.

17:23 Speaker 2: I primarily play in the summers just because winter kind

17:27 Speaker 2: of slows down a little bit, and I use that

17:31 Speaker 2: time more so for recording and writing and getting stuff

17:34 Speaker 2: ready to release and whatnot. And like I said, I'm

17:39 Speaker 2: from Columbus, Ohio. All of my family still lives there,

17:43 Speaker 2: Like every single family member lives there. All of my

17:47 Speaker 2: old friends from high school and before all still live there.

17:51 Speaker 2: So I visit there very frequently. I've built a very

17:55 Speaker 2: good community of people and kind of a following back there,

18:00 Speaker 2: and so I go back there very very frequently and

18:04 Speaker 2: play festivals and fairs in the surrounding area. Just because

18:09 Speaker 2: I've created a good community and I have lots of

18:12 Speaker 2: good contacts back there that it's easier, or it's gotten

18:15 Speaker 2: easier for me to get my foot in the door

18:17 Speaker 2: there rather than here. So yes, I play all my

18:22 Speaker 2: songs there and it's so much fun. I have a

18:25 Speaker 2: band that lives in Columbus, so I just go there

18:29 Speaker 2: and they're ready for me. They practice on their own

18:31 Speaker 2: and we kind of just show up and rip it,

18:34 Speaker 2: and then I head back to Nashville and work on

18:37 Speaker 2: stuff and then go back there. I definitely love to

18:42 Speaker 2: expand get out of just playing in Ohio. I've played

18:45 Speaker 2: in Nashville a handful of times, but it's really not

18:49 Speaker 2: that fun because it's so saturated. It's just not the

18:53 Speaker 2: same energy as going to Columbus and the people there

18:58 Speaker 2: are like, oh my gosh, this is incredible music, like

19:01 Speaker 2: thank you so much for playing for us, or this

19:03 Speaker 2: is people actually stand up and are singing along and

19:07 Speaker 2: these people have no idea who I am, but they'll

19:09 Speaker 2: really get into it. So trying to expand, but it's

19:15 Speaker 2: one step at a time.

19:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's really cool. That's really cool. Have you

19:18 Speaker 1: done any videos for these songs?

19:21 Speaker 2: I have one video out. Actually, I have a couple out.

19:27 Speaker 2: I love making videos. I love every once in a

19:30 Speaker 2: while I vlog like our shows that we go to.

19:33 Speaker 2: So when we play at festivals and whatnot, I'll bring

19:36 Speaker 2: a camera or a guy that will come and video

19:39 Speaker 2: kind of the whole process because it's just fun to

19:42 Speaker 2: have for memories. But then it also turns into like

19:45 Speaker 2: a fun little video for people to see what we

19:48 Speaker 2: do and what it's like to go play. And honestly,

19:53 Speaker 2: I started reaching out to radio stations because it seemed

19:57 Speaker 2: like a good way for me to kind of talk

20:01 Speaker 2: to people that weren't in Tennessee or Ohio. It is

20:04 Speaker 2: a way for me to kind of get myself started

20:09 Speaker 2: in new places.

20:11 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely So now what's the uh so

20:16 Speaker 1: the single Greedy now that's been out a couple months.

20:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, it came out in April.

20:21 Speaker 1: Okay, now you're working on the next one already or

20:24 Speaker 1: are you? Are you focusing on uh more on other

20:27 Speaker 1: things or what's like, what what's the current uh trajectory?

20:31 Speaker 1: Because you did mention that other one.

20:32 Speaker 2: That Yes, yeah, I have a song. It's called su

20:39 Speaker 2: Venirs and it comes out August first, and that's the

20:42 Speaker 2: one that was not written by me. We're just kind

20:45 Speaker 2: of trying something new out.

20:46 Speaker 1: Okay, is that that one's all all recorded and ready

20:50 Speaker 1: coming out.

20:50 Speaker 2: It's done, it's up, it's uploaded, so it's kind of

20:56 Speaker 2: just sitting there waiting to come out. So, oh yeah,

21:00 Speaker 2: that'll be the next one, and we're starting Actually, funny enough,

21:04 Speaker 2: we took a pause on making my music and we

21:08 Speaker 2: really want to do like a fun Christmas song in

21:12 Speaker 2: obviously like November December, but you have to start them

21:16 Speaker 2: so early, so we're starting a Christmas song next week.

21:21 Speaker 2: So we kind of took a pause. This other song

21:23 Speaker 2: will come out, and while that one is being processed

21:27 Speaker 2: and coming out, we're working on a Christmas song to

21:29 Speaker 2: do later, and then we'll get back to the normal stuff.

21:32 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, but souvenirs August first.

21:36 Speaker 2: You said, right, August first, Yes, very.

21:38 Speaker 1: Cool, excellent, excellent. Yeah, be sure to be sure to

21:42 Speaker 1: send that to us too. You know, we'll spin it here.

21:45 Speaker 2: Absolutely definitely, I will.

21:47 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, Now, where should people go online to keep

21:50 Speaker 1: up with everything that you're doing. Where's the best place

21:52 Speaker 1: to go?

21:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say probably Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all those

21:58 Speaker 2: places I post every day. Yeah, my name's the Cammi

22:03 Speaker 2: Knicks t A G, C A, M I N y X.

22:06 Speaker 2: And then I also have a website, the kammiecks dot com. Yes,

22:12 Speaker 2: and yeah, I post everything kind of all over those places,

22:16 Speaker 2: just what I'm doing and where I'm playing and what's

22:19 Speaker 2: coming out. And yeah, very good, very good.

22:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. I encourage everyone to follow you keep track of

22:24 Speaker 1: what you're doing as you're releasing new music. And I

22:27 Speaker 1: was thinking, so we'll let you go in a moment, Cammy,

22:29 Speaker 1: but I was thinking about ending the segment. You know,

22:31 Speaker 1: we played reedy to open up. I was thinking about

22:33 Speaker 1: ending with this track good Things, which is also very catchy.

22:37 Speaker 1: I really like this a lot. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely so.

22:40 Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, we'll close out the segment with this,

22:42 Speaker 1: but yeah, thank you so much for joining us today.

22:44 Speaker 1: Are you in Nashville right now? Is that where you're

22:46 Speaker 1: joining us from.

22:48 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm calling in from Nashville. I'll be here for

22:51 Speaker 2: I think two more weeks and then I have a

22:53 Speaker 2: show the third week of July back in Ohio, so

22:57 Speaker 2: I'll be heading out there. Yeah, and then back back

23:01 Speaker 2: to it. Oh.

23:02 Speaker 1: Very cool, very cool. All right, well, Cammy, I appreciate

23:05 Speaker 1: you joining us today. We'll let you go. I'm gonna

23:06 Speaker 1: hit this track good Things, but Cammy Nicks, thank you

23:10 Speaker 1: so much.

23:11 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

23:12 Speaker 1: You got it. We'll talk to you soon. Bye bye

23:14 Speaker 1: bye