Congregation X | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: So we've got congregation exes here with us in the studio, and I'm gonna turn this board up. So they've got they've got a lot of stuff, a lot of this is a this is a full room. But we'll we'll see. They're gonna they're gonna do a bunch of songs for us, gonna do four songs for us. So I'm gonna start turning up levels on these and we'll see what we get. Hopefully we can hear everybody. Uh, So, you've got a mic in front of you. So what's your name?

0:23 Speaker 2: Both, Parish, Parish?

0:26 Speaker 1: What channel is that mic.

0:27 Speaker 2: On this pike? Is on channel one?

0:29 Speaker 1: Channel one, So I'm turn that up. Oh there we go. Okay, Oh I can hear you can hear headphones? Yes, all right, very good. So and Parish, do you want to since you've got a mike, do you want to introduce everybody else?

0:39 Speaker 3: Yep.

0:39 Speaker 2: So I'm Parish.

0:40 Speaker 4: I am one of the lead vocalists and the keyboard player for Congregation X. To my left in the room, we have our amazing guitarist Nevin Brown.

0:50 Speaker 1: Hello Nevin.

0:51 Speaker 4: A little further to the left, we have our lead lead lead singer Alexandria Bracado.

0:57 Speaker 1: Hi, Alexandria, welcome.

0:58 Speaker 4: And then on the left we have our small square wooden drum kit player Jake Russell.

1:04 Speaker 1: Hi, Jake, welcome.

1:06 Speaker 4: And over on the far left in the room, we have the Mandament the Legend Josh Schultz on bass.

1:12 Speaker 1: Josh welcome. This is the first time, by the way, that we've ever had an upright bass in the studio, so that's very cool. I'm a bass player too, so I'm very impressed just to see up close, upright bass. Okay, so let's uh, let's make sure we can hear everybody. So let's have a little guitar too. Okay, yeah, sounds good, sounds good. And Alexandria, where are you where she plugged in?

1:43 Speaker 2: She is on eight, I recall correctly on eight.

1:48 Speaker 1: Go ahead and say something, hey, everybody, Oh good, you're definitely in the mix. Excellent, excellent, okay, and usually pretty much any any mics in the room and picking up drum, just just tap that thing a little bit though, just make sure we oh yeah, yeah, oh nice. Okay, does that have a mic in front of it?

2:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, it has My forty forty seven that should be on channel.

2:11 Speaker 1: We're not gonna need it. Yeah, I can already. I can already tell you we're not gonna need it.

2:14 Speaker 3: Yeah.

2:14 Speaker 1: What what channel is that on?

2:16 Speaker 2: I think it's on five on five?

2:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I.

2:21 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn that one down, we're not gonna need it. Okay. And and oh sorry, three, it's on three.

2:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that means bass is on five.

2:29 Speaker 1: Okay, bass is on five. Okay, let's hear a little of that bass. Yeah, that sounds nice. That sounds really nice. Okay. I think we're I think we're good. Play play a little something. Yeah, and let me just see just so I know that. Uh, let's do Yeah, this doesn't have to count as one of the songs, just part of something.

3:14 Speaker 1: Sounds good in the headphones. Nice, Yeah, sounds good. All right. So Congregation Acts, if you're just joining us, Congregation Acts is here with us live in studio and uh, paris, what are you gonna do? You're gonna do your adjusting. That's okay, that's all right. You're gonna do four songs for us today.

3:31 Speaker 2: We got four songs for you.

3:33 Speaker 1: Okay. I can't hear you for some reason. What channel are you in again?

3:36 Speaker 2: I am on channel one Channel one.

3:38 Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, gotcha? I mean I could hear you, you just weren't very loud. But and then when I when I put the podcast up, everything we'll get compressed anyway. But so all right, yeah, great, So you're gonna do four songs, yep.

3:50 Speaker 4: So this first one we've got is called twenty four hours. All right, Alexandria, you want give us a rundown?

3:55 Speaker 2: And what that is?

3:56 Speaker 6: Oh, twenty four hours the first.

3:58 Speaker 7: Song that we ever wrote as a band. It's pretty much about having so much love and not enough time to you know, extend it out to everywhere you want to.

4:09 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congregation X live in studio.

4:33 Speaker 6: I've got so much love to get love motion thinking on who I am, where I have been so sweet,

4:51 Speaker 6: I've fallen down again again. Also that see what it is to finally feel so free less time in twenty four hours?

5:20 Speaker 3: It just ain't enough.

5:30 Speaker 6: It feels like times against me. If you look close to you will see all of these moments passing by.

5:42 Speaker 3: Give me motivation and dry mm hmmm, and all to the patent.

5:52 Speaker 6: I want to thank you, yeah for sure for me, the way a beautiful lesson every day life is like the ocean riding ways.

6:07 Speaker 3: Sometimes I get so tired the end of the day.

6:13 Speaker 6: It comes to face when times seems to kids mere.

6:21 Speaker 3: Gets hard to.

6:21 Speaker 8: Live in love week by week, Yeah.

6:25 Speaker 9: Seems to gout this time.

6:30 Speaker 6: In twenty four hours, it just ain't enough. So thank you for all the love you got me through the time always got to Yeah we've been through. Oh, I'm so grateful you. I'm proud of who I've become.

7:19 Speaker 3: I finally felt where I've been alone. Your love to spite me.

7:28 Speaker 6: You want to live my life in love so free.

7:39 Speaker 3: It seems a godless time.

7:44 Speaker 10: And more.

7:48 Speaker 6: Twenty four hours, it just ain't enough, seems a good less time, baby.

8:02 Speaker 3: For our was It just ain't love. It just ain't.

8:29 Speaker 1: Oh that was great congregation access here with us alive in studio. That was amazing, great job, great, great job. Hey, Wit, which channel is that guitar? And again that is.

8:40 Speaker 2: Your channel too, so that would be your microphone.

8:43 Speaker 1: Pull up a little bit. But yeah, no, it sounds great. All right, pretty good. What are you gonna play next?

8:48 Speaker 4: So up next we have another song called show You, which is one of the early another one of the early originals of the band song Okay, I love song and it's part of a trio of love songs that end in a murder.

9:02 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, ind okay alleged murder.

9:06 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, Congregation X live in studio.

9:16 Speaker 6: You want you, you will you.

9:29 Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

9:36 Speaker 6: I really wanna show you.

9:43 Speaker 3: I want to show you what is love with that effect.

9:52 Speaker 6: I want to chieve you ride. You feel so different from the re has not but it's so really I want to set you free, take you there and come on, bake but ten a head. I'll give you sweetness. Say you've been missing, You've been spending your whole life helping everybody fly. Come over here with abstraction wings, have some.

10:41 Speaker 3: Love to give you a baby.

10:47 Speaker 6: I want to hear you sing, see you dance, make you smile, give me the chair.

10:56 Speaker 3: I want to show me all you. Won't you he Oh, won't you hear?

12:34 Speaker 6: You've been spending your whole life helping ever everybody's fly. Come over here with.

12:43 Speaker 3: A scratch of wings. I guess some bandy j.

12:48 Speaker 6: Love to give you baby ah.

12:55 Speaker 3: Hope you understand nasty, the real you.

12:59 Speaker 1: I want to show you what is.

13:03 Speaker 11: A lie to be by your brities.

13:09 Speaker 3: I give you sweet this that you been listen.

13:17 Speaker 11: I want to show you.

13:21 Speaker 3: I you want you.

13:28 Speaker 12: Oh w you.

13:33 Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

13:40 Speaker 6: I want to show you.

13:48 Speaker 1: Who oh fantastic, fantastic.

14:08 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Matt.

14:09 Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you're just joining us, we have congregation acts here with us live in studio. Is this unusual to do this this early?

14:17 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit shows?

14:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you sound great though. You sound great, by the way, So where before you play the next one? Where should people go to find you online? For people who want to keep up with everything that you're doing.

14:30 Speaker 4: So you can find us on Instagram at Congregation X and on Facebook at Congregation X. Okay, and that's currently where we're available. We will have a website and things like that coming out very soon.

14:42 Speaker 1: Okay.

14:43 Speaker 2: Oh and we have a YouTube channel.

14:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of stuff on there actually, yeah.

14:48 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:48 Speaker 4: We actually recently just played a great show up at a hermit Wood's Winery in the Loft and that whole show is actually available to uh stream and check out up on YouTube.

14:57 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice? And you don't have any studio music? Yeah right.

15:00 Speaker 4: We actually just recorded our first our first EP, so we're going to be mixing that and releasing it within the next couple months.

15:09 Speaker 1: Oh, congratulations, excellent, thank you. Yeah, you can't wait to hear that. Very good, very good. Well I got to ask you this too. Where does the name come from? Congregation X.

15:17 Speaker 2: So it was kind of a working title.

15:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the story, yeah, step up to the mic there in Nevin.

15:26 Speaker 13: So the story goes that the original lineup, the majority of us met at the Stone Church, New Market, So we wanted something that represented that place because.

15:36 Speaker 14: Of special to us.

15:38 Speaker 13: Oh okay, and the X sort of represents our future journey because we've pulled together musicians from different styles and different backgrounds. Yeah, and it represents the potential of what we have that we can do as a group on a single journey.

15:52 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that makes sense. I love it. I love it very good. All right.

15:56 Speaker 7: That that and it's what he put. He put in the calendar, and eventually we were just like that actually really is us?

16:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, big X men?

16:05 Speaker 1: Oh well there all right?

16:09 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, our group chat is called X men.

16:11 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like it?

16:13 Speaker 5: All right?

16:13 Speaker 1: Great good? Yeah, all right, you want to play another one?

16:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hit it, all right.

16:16 Speaker 1: Congregation X live in studio.

16:31 Speaker 5: Street sign give a green it turning.

16:42 Speaker 15: Silent, Southern Night's split by sirens on the weird.

16:46 Speaker 16: Fun b line glass You guys stand out in the street.

17:02 Speaker 17: All my regrets. It was nothing that I could have sid We got down to.

17:14 Speaker 5: The river to wash ourselves clean.

17:17 Speaker 16: If the ice want to to get old and we need hope live mind old?

17:25 Speaker 5: You got the trouble you see? Won't you be very going? Won't you be even him line?

17:56 Speaker 17: Oh see he's crest you man.

18:04 Speaker 5: Fine the claris in the alley passed through starting when you father.

18:19 Speaker 18: Road laying on the ground last week bur in time treating.

18:35 Speaker 17: We go to the river to wash yourself screen if he has weren't you deems to get.

18:43 Speaker 19: All lef me?

18:46 Speaker 3: Oh Heaven my hold you for the trouble you see?

18:51 Speaker 5: Won't you be ever?

18:53 Speaker 3: Won't you be ever.

19:09 Speaker 20: To the very.

19:43 Speaker 15: Down to the river to wash yourselves clean? And fee ies weren't too deep to get all? Do he need hope?

19:53 Speaker 2: Heaven might hold you for the trouble you so? Won't you be ve you?

20:00 Speaker 20: Won't you be We got into the river to watch.

20:06 Speaker 6: Yourself screen every yes, were you dam secret all that?

20:13 Speaker 3: Oh hell, won't you the trouble you see. Won't you be at the day, won't you be at the.

20:43 Speaker 1: Mm hmm fantastic, fantastic, Thank you absolutely. Congregation Acts here with us live in studio, sounding great. And then so you want to do more? You said you want to do four?

21:01 Speaker 21: You want?

21:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got one more for you if.

21:03 Speaker 1: You got absolutely absolutely we do. Yes, Congregation Acts is with us live in studio and uh yeah, if you have a chance to see them live, you definitely want to. This is great, This is great, Thank you so much having us absolutely glad to do it.

21:18 Speaker 3: All right?

21:19 Speaker 1: What have you got?

21:19 Speaker 21: Oh?

21:20 Speaker 1: Oh oh?

21:20 Speaker 6: This song is called have you ever?

21:22 Speaker 1: Have you ever? Congregation X?

21:34 Speaker 3: Have you love? Standing?

21:52 Speaker 6: Something about you? You carry yourself and that I'm still drawn too. I see you, my poinschen, my cheeks kid, I am my keet thinking. I bet you could give me the right kind of scratch.

22:16 Speaker 3: Have the thought?

22:19 Speaker 6: Can you see what I see?

22:24 Speaker 3: Is your visual clear?

22:25 Speaker 6: Can you feel the electriss city?

22:34 Speaker 22: Do you have a name, because I've just been calling you my future.

22:46 Speaker 6: Every time I see your face. So I catch myself holding in my bread hoping that you come on over to me. Something deliciouss come in your way, baby, if you like it, I know that you see the way I move. Now I'm next to you. Now there, I have got your retention. I put your heart in my attention. I would like to spend some time with you long.

23:58 Speaker 3: Not very first babe.

24:03 Speaker 6: Litting in the kitchen at two am, the first time kissing says, I figures into love.

24:17 Speaker 3: Don't bad that you come on over to me? Babe. I could teach you.

24:28 Speaker 6: So many things, show your other radways to love me

24:39 Speaker 6: one here here and apple one o there and bab people fly away? You bill walking through my mind? Under it? If you're the one? Oh, we're brave enough to thunder?

25:09 Speaker 6: Do you think of me like this too? Because we just don't know you.

25:24 Speaker 8: You're picking up on the barbe I'm picking up bad. We're never run, We're never I'm around you.

25:38 Speaker 3: If you're all in you? If you could read my mom, well, whatt you do? Have you ever bad? Some delicious sis?

25:53 Speaker 19: Come?

25:53 Speaker 21: Man?

25:54 Speaker 8: You're way baby, if you let it, I would like a spence.

26:01 Speaker 3: With you. Have gotcha attention?

26:11 Speaker 8: Listen, We'll just spensup time with you.

26:18 Speaker 20: Have you have?

26:25 Speaker 3: Have you live?

26:33 Speaker 1: Oh? Incredible incredible congregation acts everybody great job, great job. Tell us again, where should people go to keep up with everything you're doing?

26:43 Speaker 4: So if you want to keep up with us, you want to find us on YouTube, Instagram, or Facebook. Our future show announcements first drop on our Instagram, So that's a pleace to find us.

26:53 Speaker 1: Really nice. Do you have do you have anything tonight for people listening live on Saturday? You got anything tonight you want to plug or this week?

27:00 Speaker 4: Well, if you are hanging out at home tonight you want to be in a concert sitting at home, We have a live show from hermit Wood's Winery right up in the loft that you can tune into on our YouTube at congregation x oh very and available on the hermit Woods Winery YouTube.

27:17 Speaker 2: So if you want to be.

27:19 Speaker 4: Able to hang out with a little thing of popcorn and you know, not have to go anywhere.

27:23 Speaker 2: Pay for tickets, go ahead and check it out.

27:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have some new shows coming up coming into September October.

27:29 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, excellent? What time does that start? The live stream tonight?

27:33 Speaker 4: The live stream is already done. So the live stream it was a live recorded stream, oh say, it was a live recorded show.

27:39 Speaker 2: We did like a month or so ago. Oh I got you already available?

27:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay.

27:43 Speaker 6: In other words, we're taking this month to write some new songs to add to.

27:47 Speaker 1: Oh okay list, gotcha, gotcha? Good good, there you go. Yeah.

27:52 Speaker 23: Yeah.

27:52 Speaker 2: Think of it as like congregation acts on demand.

27:54 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, very cool. Well, I want to thank you all for coming in. This has been amazing. You just sound incredible.

28:01 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

28:02 Speaker 1: Anything absolutely anything we didn't talk about. You want to make sure our listeners know they know where to find you, they know new album and a couple uh.

28:13 Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, yes, So we are actually playing a summer series show. Let's see, we're gonna be playing one in September at the Amp in Barrington. If you follow us on Facebook, we'll have information coming out about that. And then, oh yeah, there is one sooner we're gonna you follow us on Facebook. We're going to have a little house show coming up next this month, actually on the nineteenth.

28:39 Speaker 2: If you want to come out and see that.

28:41 Speaker 6: Feel free writing songs.

28:43 Speaker 4: In between writing new songs, feel free to follow us on Facebook and we can get you some information on that and it's going to be a great show. And then We will actually be performing at the press room this new this November, so we'll be uh if you want to come down to Portsmouth and hang out with us, we'll have information come out about that very soon.

29:01 Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding, all right, congregation X, thank you all five of you for being here today. This has been amazing.

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58:05 Speaker 1: That is catchy as hell, That is greedy. That's the name of the track. That is Cammy next, and we're going to talk with Cammy in just a moment. Welcome everybody. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We have entered our number three New Marrow Trace on this Saturday, July five, twenty twenty five. Thank you all for joining us, and Jenny is here, of course, is at the news table, presentent accounted for. I think I almost at news Desko seeing old school. It's a table and uh let's see Campy here. Bring Cammy on here, Cammy, are you there?

58:36 Speaker 3: Hi?

58:36 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here, Welcome to the program. We just started using Google teams recently, so it's still a little bit of an adventure.

58:44 Speaker 5: Okay.

58:45 Speaker 1: So I'm always relieved when the guest is connected and everything's good. Welcome to the show. I love that song, Greedy, It's very very catchy.

58:52 Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and thank you for having me.

58:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Uh So, where are you from?

59:00 Speaker 9: Columbus, Ohio? But I live in Nashville?

59:02 Speaker 1: Now, okay, okay, what's it like living in Nashville? Because you know, we've had we've had a lot of guests on the show who have traveled there, but you know, maybe to spend a weekend or a week there. But I don't think we've had anybody on the show who lives there currently. And obviously Nashville known for being for music. I mean, is is it a lot of pressure there living there and being a part of the scene there or what's that like?

59:27 Speaker 9: It is definitely interesting. There's a lot of pressure, but more so I just say, it's very saturated, so it's really really difficult to get your foot in the door. But at the same time, because it's so saturated, there's so many people to work with and so many people to network with. Yeah, and it's such a good community of people, but it is very tricky to kind of get going and get a name for yourself.

59:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine it is. But that's that's a great place to be for what you're doing, and it's it might cut against some of the ideas some of the preconceptions too, that people have about Nashville, because you know, a lot of people when they hear Nashville, especially people not in the industry, they think of country music. But it's more than just country music. And obviously, you know, what you're doing is in country. I don't know if you have any country songs, but but really, I mean there's all kinds of music happening there, and there's all kinds of connections you can make and people to work with, right.

1:00:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I think it has the stigma that it's country music because that's what it started as. But it's really any and every genre. And it is more so just the music city, as people call it, and this is where everyone comes to record, even non country people. They all record in the studios here or work with people here, or have session players from Nashville because these people are very talented and they can play any genre. They can do anything. So yeah, it's it's any genre really.

1:00:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely. How long have you lived there?

1:00:57 Speaker 9: This is my sixth year living here.

1:01:00 Speaker 1: Oh leave, Oh you've been there a long time? Okay, great? Great?

1:01:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, I went to college here, So I moved when I was seventeen.

1:01:08 Speaker 1: Oh outstanding? Okay? Was greedy? Was that recorded there?

1:01:14 Speaker 28: It was?

1:01:14 Speaker 15: Yeah?

1:01:14 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very cool. Now what about so you started pretty young? I would imagine you're from Ohio. Originally you said, right, yes, Were you involved in music before moving to Nashville? I assume, I mean, I know you moved there for school, but growing up you said, was a Columbus Ohio?

1:01:32 Speaker 9: You said, yeah, Columbus, Ohio. I grew up there and was definitely involved in music and specifically musical theater. I did a lot of that as a kid, in like growing up and in all throughout my life. In high school, everything. I was known as like the musical kid in my town, and I ran all the music programs. I was the president of all these different choirs and small ensembles, and I did all the community theater shows and this, that and the other. So I was definitely musically inclined from a very young age and that just kind of became my thing.

1:02:07 Speaker 9: And I didn't really do sports. It was always just music, and so I made the decision to Originally I was going to go to college for musical theater because I thought that I liked that, But I then quickly realized I just liked the singing part of it. I didn't care about the acting or the dancing. I just wanted some like someplace to sing in front of people. Sure, so then I pivoted and moved to Nashville to do music.

1:02:33 Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, but yeah, I mean doing music that was clearly inevitable, you know, given your background and everything that you did growing up. So so's that's great?

1:02:43 Speaker 40: Now?

1:02:43 Speaker 1: How many? So you have several singles out? I know, have you have you recorded an album or an EP yet or is that on your radar?

1:02:52 Speaker 9: It's not currently on my radar. I have four singles out right now, and I'm kind of just writing the singles because I think as a smaller, independent artist, it's pretty difficult to put out an EP or an album and expect people to listen to the whole thing. Yeah, because that's a lot easier when you have a big following and people want to sit down and listen to it. But I would rather create singles and put them out one at a time and give them a bunch of attention or as much as I can, and that way they get kind of the spotlight for a second, rather than putting out like a forty five minute long album and hoping that people will listen to it.

1:03:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense. It's a lot of artists it's very important to them to do albums. But there's I don't remember who it was we were talking to about this, but we had a guest on the show recently talking about how when you put out an album, it's like, you know, in terms of algorithms, like on Spotify, for example, you get that initial boost of okay, here's something new. You know, it might show up in your suggestions, here's something you like, whether it be Spotify or even on YouTube or wherever.

1:04:03 Speaker 1: But but you get that big bump, that little not even a big bump, but you get that little extra push once with the album and then that's it. Whereas if you just release a series of singles, with every single, you get that little push algorithmically speaking, and and so that ends up being a little bit of a more sustainable strategy. Although some of the guests too that we've had on the show recently, they've kind of inverted, you know, because the old approach, you know, sort of pre internet, was you release an album and then a series of singles to radio.

1:04:36 Speaker 1: And some artists now they release a series of singles that eventually coalesce into an album or any exactly. Yeah, but what you're doing, I think that's.

1:04:45 Speaker 9: More than norm I think now as people putting out singles and then they release like an EP, but it's just all of the singles they've already put out.

1:04:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now in terms of you, uh, in terms of your songs, the songs that you've put out, are these written by you or do you have I'm really curious about this, especially given where you are geographically, because you have so many you know, you're just surrounded by all kinds of talent. So I'm curious about your process and who you collaborate with, or maybe you do it all your own. I don't know, but I'm really interested in that.

1:05:18 Speaker 9: Yeah, I write all of my own songs that are currently out. I've some of them have co writers on them, so people that I worked with, but a few of them were fully just written by me. Start to finish, and then I have a recording studio in town. There's two producers there that I work with, and I bring them my songs, play it for them and see what they think, and then they help me bring it to life and make it what it ends up being. And we do everything in house. It's all real instruments, like we play.

1:05:54 Speaker 9: It's the two guys and then myself. I play a few instruments, and so we between the three of us can play every instrument that we need for the track. We record it live and have real instruments, real players, everything, and then they mix and master it for me. And that's kind of been our process for a while. However, I have a single coming out in August, and it's the first time I'm releasing a song that I had no part in writing. I took a cut from some friends that I have that are professional songwriters, and I kind of started to explore this idea of I don't have to do everything myself.

1:06:34 Speaker 9: I can just be the artist or just be the performer. And there are many talented songwriters here, obviously, and that's what people in the real industry do. These huge famous people are not writing their songs themselves. They have ten fifteen people helping them write songs, or they don't even write them at all, and they get these cuts from very talented songwriters. So I tried that out and I really liked how the song turned out. So my next single is fully just written by other people.

1:07:07 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting? Was it hard to take that step? I mean, was that something did you? Did you go into that saying no, maybe I will try this and see what happens. Or was it more like, like, did you have to be kind of coaxed into it? Because that's got to be because that's a big shift, right because, like you said, you were used to doing everything yourself, which gives you a lot of autonomy and control over your material, and to take that step and do something that someone else wrote, was that difficult?

1:07:34 Speaker 1: Or did it? Did it come naturally or what was that like?

1:07:37 Speaker 9: I think it really came naturally. It was my idea. I kind of put feelers out and let people in the industry know, hey, I'm open to cuts. If you have songs that you aren't going to cut or you don't have anybody to cut them, send them not my way, and I'll listen to them and if they fit my vibe, my overall kind of genre that I'm building for my

1:08:01 Speaker 9: and I took them to my producers too, and we kind of listened to them together because they know my style, and we decided which ones fit me, which ones didn't fit me, and then narrowed it down to the song that's gonna come out. And I honestly think it wasn't that difficult because I grew up my whole life obviously doing theater, and I was in lots of cover bands and things like that, so I grew up singing other people's songs my whole life. It really wasn't that different. And if it's a good song at the end of the day, I think that's all that matters.

1:08:35 Speaker 9: And yeah, it wasn't. It really wasn't a hard process.

1:08:39 Speaker 21: It was.

1:08:39 Speaker 9: It kind of made it more enjoyable because I wasn't scrutinizing it as much as if it were my own songwriting. I'm much more like, oh does this sound stupid? I wrote this, these words are probably dumb, But since somebody else wrote it and I very much enjoyed their songwriting already, I just sang it and liked it from the start.

1:09:00 Speaker 1: That makes sense. So it sounds like it was kind of liberating in a way. Yeah, yeah, well that's very cool. You mentioned too, So I noticed you went out of your way to put extra emphasis on talking about how everything that you do it's played by real people, real musicians. And it makes me curious because one of the things that we talk about on the show a lot, because we have a lot of sort of industry centric shall we say, uh, conversations on the show, is we talk a lot about AI, the use of AI and music and whatnot.

1:09:31 Speaker 1: And I'm curious. I suspect based on what you've said that this might be something that you're concerned about, So I'd like to get your thoughts on that, or maybe there's another dimension to it. But I'm really interested because, like I said, you went out of your way to tell us you know, this is all real, so obviously there's no none of these parts were created by AI and any of your songs. So I'm curious if you have if you have further thoughts on that that you like to share.

1:09:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's because my kind of stance on that started even before AI kind of joined the picture. I was always looking for what my niche was in the industry, Like I think everybody has their thing that makes them unique and their genre or it's their sound or this, that and the other. And I realized that I think what makes me unique is that our music is very commercial. It's very commercially successful, but it's all real. And in today's day, most music is not real. It's all done digitally, or it can be done digitally.

1:10:42 Speaker 9: And I went to college here and there were so many people at my school who made full songs in their dorm rooms on their laptop and you would never know that they, you know, did it by themselves at midnight, just on their computer. And I wanted something that made us stand out. And I realized, like, hey, we play all of this for real, and I don't think a lot of people do that, and I think that's something we should emphasize and tell people is like this is real. Like this there's someone sitting there actually playing the drums.

1:11:15 Speaker 9: Every single beat that you hear. He played it, and that's impressive. And I went to school with so many talented musicians, and I was starting to realize these people like won't be needed if we continue down this path. And I think there's something special about someone actually playing it, and especially live. You can't have a live show if someone's not actually playing the instrument, you know. And now it's turned to AI and it is insane what they can do and make, you know, a whole song or parts of a song.

1:11:52 Speaker 9: So yeah, that's kind of become my shtick and my Niche is saying like, hey, this is real, so just keep that and consideration when you're listening to it, Like some guy sat down and played every note on that guitar that you're hearing. So I think that deserves some it deserves to be shouted out and you know, yeah, get the credit.

1:12:13 Speaker 1: And so even the drums are live.

1:12:16 Speaker 9: The drums are live, the bass, the guitar, everything. We usually stack it from the bottom, so he'll will record the drums first and he does that fully with no other instruments, like he sits down and will play the entire song from start to finish, just on the drums and with a really crappy demo that we made, and he can pull out an entire song on the drums and then we build it from the bottom up. So bass guitar.

1:12:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's great, and that's you know, that's how it used to always be done. Although the reason I asked Sid about the drums specifically is because I've been surprised at various points when you know, even even stuff that was recorded in the eighties that I assumed, you know, just you know, hard rock songs that you know, a little research and I learned that, you know, this was pre AI, but obviously this was you know, we're talking about eighties even early nineties rock where it's like, oh no, they actually did that with a with a drum machine.

1:13:18 Speaker 1: Those weren't real drums, and it's like, wow, that's uh, you know, it's kind of impressive in a way that they were able to create something so real. But at the same time, it's like sometimes it's sometimes if you do a little digging, you'll be really surprised at how much was was not real drums. Yeah, and of course now you can do that with everything. Yeah, yeah, it is.

1:13:39 Speaker 9: I think it is insane. You know, you would assume those things were all real, But yeah, drum machines were huge in the eighties. So a lot of those songs are just programmed and we play everything live maybe here and there they'll get he well, actually, I mean we use samples, but they're samples that they'll make themselves. So yeah, if a tom that he hit during the track wasn't strong enough, he'll go hit the tom one time, take that recording and put it right over the one that maybe he flubbed a little bit, so it's still him playing it.

1:14:10 Speaker 9: But oh yeah, yeah, that's how you like have to really fix stuff if it's real, you know.

1:14:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta do overdubs. I mean there's no get there's no getting it. Yeah, absolutely, but that's just that's just part of the process. Has it been so has it been done that way with every all of the singles that you've released, it's all been done done that same way.

1:14:31 Speaker 9: Yes, everything I have out is real.

1:14:35 Speaker 1: That's great.

1:14:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of we It kind of started that way on accident, and then I started telling people, Hey, this song is real, and then we were like, well, if we're going to keep putting out songs, maybe we should do them all like that and that way they kind of have a cohesive sound. But then also we can continue to tell people and showcase like this is real, Like these are real people that are have years of training and talent that they can showcase.

1:15:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, no, I think that's great. And then what's the live situation? Like are you playing these songs out? Do you play out a lot? Obviously there's a lot of I know, there's a lot of places to play in Nashville, but it's also probably pretty crowded in some ways. But what's that like as far as the live scene and do you get out and tour or how are you doing with that?

1:15:23 Speaker 9: I this is my third summer that I am playing. I primarily play in the summers just because winter kind of slows down a little bit and I use that time more so for recording and writing and getting stuff ready to release and Whatnotah. And like I said, I'm from Columbus, Ohio. All of my family still lives there, Like every single family member lives there. All of my old friends from high school and before all still live there, so I visit there very frequently. I've built a good community of people and kind of a following back there, and so I go back there very very frequently and play festivals and fairs in the surrounding area.

1:16:12 Speaker 9: Just because I've created a good community and I have lots of good contacts back there, that it's easier or it's gotten easier for me to get my foot in the door there rather than here. So yes, I play all my songs there and it's so much fun. I have a band that lives in Columbus, so I just go there and they're ready for me. They practice on their own and we kind of just show up and rip it, and then I head back to Nashville and work on stuff and then go back there. I definitely love to expand get out of just playing in Ohio.

1:16:49 Speaker 9: I've played in Nashville a handful of times, but it's really not that fun because it's so saturated. It's just not the same energy as going to Columbus, and the people there are like, oh my gosh, this is incredible music, like thank you so much for playing for us, or this is people actually stand up and are singing along and these people have no idea who I am, but they'll really get into it. So trying to expand, but it's one step at a time.

1:17:21 Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's really cool. That's really cool. Have you done any videos for these songs?

1:17:26 Speaker 9: I have one video out? Actually, I have a couple out. I love making videos. I love every once in a while, I vlog like our shows that we go to. So when we play at festivals and whatnot, I'll bring a camera or a guy that will come in video kind of the whole process because it's just fun to have for memories. But then it also turns into like a fun little video for people to see what we do and what it's like to go play. And honestly, I started reaching out to radio stations because it seemed like a good way for me to kind of talk to people that weren't in Tennessee or Ohio.

1:18:09 Speaker 9: It is a way for me to kind of get myself started in new places.

1:18:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely so. Now what's the uh so the single Greedy Now that's been out a couple months.

1:18:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, it came out in April.

1:18:26 Speaker 1: Okay, now you're working on the next one already? Or are you are you focusing on uh more on other things or what's like, what what's the current uh trajectory? Because you did mention that other one.

1:18:37 Speaker 9: That Yes, yeah, I have a song. It's called su Venirs and it comes out August first, and that's the one that was not written by me. We're just kind of trying something new out.

1:18:51 Speaker 1: Okay, is that that one's all all recorded and ready coming out?

1:18:55 Speaker 9: It's done. Yeah, it's up, it's uploaded, so it's kind of just sitting there waiting to come out. So yeah, that'll be the next one, and we're starting. Actually, funny enough, we took a pause on making my music and we really want to do like a fun Christmas song in obviously like November December, but you have to start them so early, so we're starting a Christmas song next week. So we kind of took a pause. This other song will come out, and while that one is being processed and coming out, we're working on a Christmas song to do later and then we'll get back to the normal stuff.

1:19:37 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, But Souvenirs August first, you said.

1:19:41 Speaker 42: Right, August first, Yes, very cool, excellent, excellent, Yeah, be sure to be sure to sound that to us too, you know, we'll spin it here. Absolutely definitely, I will absolutely absolutely Now, where should people go online to keep up with everything that you're doing.

1:19:56 Speaker 1: Where's the best place to go?

1:19:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, I I would say probably Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all those places I post every day. Yeah, my name's the Cammi Knicks T A G, C, A, M I N y X. And then I also have a website, the Kammiinex dot com. Yes, and yeah, I post everything kind of all over those places, just what I'm doing and where I'm playing and what's coming out and yeah, very good, very good.

1:20:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. I encourage everyone to follow you, keep track of what you're doing as you're releasing new music. And I was thinking, so we'll let you go in a moment, Cammy, But I was thinking about ending the segment. You know, we played ready to Open Up. I was thinking about ending with this track good Things, which is also very catchy. I really like this a lot. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely so, I was thinking, well, we'll close out the segment with this, but yeah, thank you so much for joining us today.

1:20:49 Speaker 1: Are you in Nashville right now? Is that where you're joining us from?

1:20:53 Speaker 9: Yes, I'm calling in from Nashville. I'll be here for I think two more weeks and then I have a show the third week of July back in Ohio, so I'll be heading out there, yeah, and then back back to it.

1:21:06 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool. All right, well, Cammy, I appreciate you joining us today. We'll let you go. I'm gonna hit this track, good Things, but Cammy Knicks, thank you so much, Thank you so much. You got it. We'll talk to you soon. Bye bye bye. All right, very good. That was Cammy Knicks. And if you're wondering how to spell her last name, it's n y X. And let's give this a spin. This is called good Things, another great track from Cammy Knicks.

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1:24:21 Speaker 43: Only go so don man, I'm kidding?

1:24:28 Speaker 32: Is that good?

1:24:29 Speaker 11: Is it that I must not bury inside? Don't mam on b busy that's not because hatim driving to him, lie across a line, always standing.

1:24:48 Speaker 21: On of you.

1:24:50 Speaker 20: Just let go on you.

1:25:11 Speaker 1: I like that bass note at the end there That is Cammy Nicks. That track is called good Things. And earlier we played Greedy, her newest single, and then we talked with Cammy joining us from Nashville. That was very cool. So look forward to keeping up with everything that she's doing. Souvenirs coming out August first, and we might get to give that a world radio premiere. You know, we like those absolutely, I do absolutely, so welcome everybody, of course if you are joining us alive on Saturday morning.

1:25:40 Speaker 1: It is July fifth, twenty twenty five. Matt Connorton Unleashed and I think we should talk about this an interesting story that took me by surprise. So there's Lord who's she's been around for a while, I think, right, yes, she's got a new CD. And this is from the Verge dot com. So you know, sometimes when releasing physical media, people like to come up with cool gimmicks, you know, like back in the days of when Vinyl was was well. Of course vinyl has had such a resurgence over the past decade, but you know, sometimes with Vinyl people tried to do cool stuff, release limited edition Vinyl.

1:26:25 Speaker 1: I remember I still recall when Dan of Dan Randall and the Randlettes, some people will know when he showed me he had bought the the Kiss single for Unholy that came out in ninety two and it was they put it out on limited edition white vinyl. It was so cool.

1:26:44 Speaker 44: Anyway, My favorite was a Stix album that I think it was Paradise Theater that actually had the theater in the album like the visual. Yeah, you had to hold the album a certain way to see the yeah, to see it. But yeah, I mean I was stuff like that.

1:27:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Pick picture discs they call them, yeah, and those are cool. And you know, some artists have tried to do things unique and innovative with CDs as well, not just vinyl. And Lord's new CD is transparent. You can see through it. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you know, you can always go go find a picture of it online. It's interesting. It's it's completely clear. You can see right through it. What a cool idea, right, Yeah. Actually, well there's only one problem, and this is from the Verge dot com.

1:27:34 Speaker 1: Lord's new CD is so transparent that stereos can't even read it.

1:27:39 Speaker 35: Oh god, that's so terrible.

1:27:41 Speaker 1: And there's only one version and it doesn't work on most players. So this is from the Verge. It says Lord fans are clearly struggling to play the CD version of her new album. Consumers who purchase the special edition of Virgin released on a transparent plastic disc or reporting Reddit and TikTok that many CD players car serios and other sound systems they've tried to play it on are unable to play it. The transparent CD promoted it as being fully recyclable, is currently sold out on Lord's web store, and was the only disc variant available for the Virgin album.

1:28:21 Speaker 1: So, in other words, if you don't want the clear CD, if you want something you can actually play, you can't even get it. Nope. So that may have come as a that may have been a welcome compromise for fans, given the singer opted to forego a CD release entirely for her twenty twenty one album, Solar Power over waste and environmental concerns, but little comfort to customers who can't purchase alternative options. One Reddit user said, quote very cool looking and I'm not going to return it, but doesn't work in three of my top players.

1:28:51 Speaker 1: PC was able to rip, but the files are not great. There's distortion and clipping. User unquote. User report it's indicate that older hardware is less likely to work with the CDD than devices with newer sensors. So you know, we should just stress that so people know. It's not that it doesn't play at all. You just have to have a new, a very new CD player apparently that is able to actually read the data on it, because as one person pointed out, and this isn't from the article I saw this on. Uh, I saw this on another post.

1:29:28 Speaker 1: Somebody said, Hey, you know it's completely clearer. There's no silver coding, but isn't the silver where the data is stored.

1:29:37 Speaker 35: God, that's true.

1:29:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So apparently it's so so if you have a newer CD player you can play it, but older ones car serios won't play it. Uh, it's it's you're just sol it says here. One TikTok user demonstrated that her car CD player was an unable to recognize the disc and said that for seeing the CD inside resulted in automatic ejection, mirroring similar reports made in Reddit comments. Uh this redditor said, quote, whoever decided to design this as an idiot? Cars can't read the CD. Walkman's can't read the CD.

1:30:16 Speaker 1: You need to create CDs that are fit for purpose of for the medium in which they are played on, which is older technology. Unquote, no, you.

1:30:26 Speaker 44: Should update your technology. But that's your it's your fault. You didn't update your technology. You're the greatness of the desk.

1:30:33 Speaker 1: If you're a true Lord fan, you know this reminds me of a there's a podcaster or who we know who always complains about people not listening to his podcast on good quality equipment and expects everyone to upgrade their equipment when they listened to his amazing yes yes, how he how he knows how people are consuming his content. I have no idea.

1:30:58 Speaker 44: But what I don't get is, like, didn't they test it out on They must have, like only played it on the very best.

1:31:06 Speaker 1: That must That must be what happened.

1:31:07 Speaker 35: Yeah, nobody bothered to go, hey, let me go see if this will work in my car.

1:31:11 Speaker 1: That that's probably what happened, it says here. Lord has yet to address any of the issues raised about the transparent Virgin CD. The official came uh. The official cause of the playability issues also has not been confirmed. It's certainly striking. It's certainly a striking disc. CDs with even partially clear designs are uncommon UH and can be a hit with collectors. But the lack of functionality in this example has been a bitter experience for some Lord fans.

1:31:40 Speaker 35: Yeah, I can imagine I got a pretty disc.

1:31:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't play it.

1:31:45 Speaker 1: One TikTok user said, quote, seems like they didn't account for this pretty disappointing. I know it was for an aesthetic, but at least press it on normal CDs too. Unquote. Yeah, that's the other weird thing. It's like, why wouldn't you also put out out a non clear.

1:32:03 Speaker 35: Edition because they thought that it was going to play and everything.

1:32:06 Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if they thought that people might this is Wow. There's a picture here in this article two of the disc of someone holding up the disc and yeah, it's very clear. Yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical, Like if someone handed that to me and said, here, play this, I'd be like, uh, what is this? Is this actually a CD? What are you giving me here? Yeah?

1:32:29 Speaker 44: It looks kind of it doesn't You're right, it doesn't look like any disc that you've seen before. Yeah, but it's cute and it's quirky, and if it had played on everything, it would have been great, And that's probably why they didn't print regular ones. But then maybe they should go back and do that now and like offer people, you know, hey, you bought this disc it's great, but here's one you can actually listen to, right.

1:32:52 Speaker 35: Like that would be great to do for fans. Yeah, that would make it better.

1:32:56 Speaker 44: Yeah, but to spend the money to buy the thing and you can't play the music that it's not just about aesthetics.

1:33:02 Speaker 35: I mean, you want to hear U's on it.

1:33:04 Speaker 1: Unless they also made the calculation, it's possible that someone made the calculation that people weren't going to buy this discs to play it, but people are going to buy this disc just to have it.

1:33:15 Speaker 35: I think that's silly.

1:33:16 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The only reason I think someone might have thought that is because, you know my theory about vinyl. I've said it all the time that when artists release new vinyl, you know, because some of the guests that we've had on the show, for example, they'll they'll do vinyl, And I always say that. My theory is most people who buy new vinyl don't even have a record player. They just buy it because they want to have it, Like, they never even necessarily open it. They just want to really support that artist, so they'll buy it just to you know, maybe put the artwork on the wall or something, or just just to have it because they want to support that artist, not because they actually have a record player at home that they're going to play it on.

1:33:55 Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1:33:56 Speaker 35: I do know what you mean, But I honestly think in this instance, it's just not the equivalency.

1:34:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just wondering if someone maybe had that theory though, Like, maybe somebody had a theory to my theory about Vioylin they thought it would have Even if.

1:34:09 Speaker 35: That was the theory, why would you print only discs that you can't listen to? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

1:34:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's pretty strange, and apparently it's not being addressed. I guess it just came out because this story just broke a couple of days ago.

1:34:24 Speaker 35: I'm sure that she anticipated that the disc was going to work.

1:34:28 Speaker 44: You know, I highly doubt that it was sold to her as Hey, we want to print millions of your desk, but we don't want them to be able to necessarily.

1:34:35 Speaker 35: Play unless you got expensive equipment.

1:34:37 Speaker 45: Yeah yeah, unless you have new equipment, it done work. That's right, That's right, and that done not good. So well, hopefully everyone learns something from this.

1:34:48 Speaker 44: Yes, do not make the clear unless they find a better material to use to make them on that can actually be read.

1:34:56 Speaker 35: They kind of need the silver part.

1:34:59 Speaker 1: Yeah like that one, the person wrote, absolutely. So another thing that happened recently. Oh and this this will probably be a surprise to you because we didn't discuss this, but this popped into my head. I wanted to say something about this. So long time listeners of the show, and of course people who know me personally know that uh Kiss is my favorite band of all time. You knew that, right, I think Kiss is my ald time.

1:35:26 Speaker 44: Why there's kiss all over your office? That might be yes kiss ornament hanging off your light?

1:35:32 Speaker 1: Kiss is my favorite band, uh Kiss. Paul Stanley said something recently though, that I found rather shocking, really, and I just I just wanted to address it for the for the you know a lot of guests that we've had on the show too or like Kiss, so you know, this subject comes up. But as Paul Stanley said something that really surprised me, I was quite taken aback. He said in an interview, because he's doing a lot of interviews these days, he and Jine Someone's both are now that Kisses. You know, they're not touring anymore.

1:36:01 Speaker 1: They did their the End of the Road tour.

1:36:02 Speaker 35: They're doing the Hologram tour.

1:36:04 Speaker 1: They're still doing some stuff that's coming later. They are doing a thing and they're doing a big event in Las Vegas where they're going to play. So they're you know, they're still active, but they're not going to play. They're going to have No, that's something that's something else that's coming later. No, Kiss actually is playing there. Yeah, so they're they're still going to do some things here and there, but but just not like a full tour. That was the last actual getting on the road, going on tour.

1:36:29 Speaker 1: They're in their seventies now. Oh yeah. Paul Stanley said in a recent interview that he feels, in hindsight, because he's doing all these interviews talking about, you know, looking back on Kiss, he feels that, in hindsight, it was a mistake in nineteen eighty three when they took the makeup off, because those those four characters that they had created are so iconic and and uh and and you know, he didn't think that he didn't think that anything that they did, could could ever live up to that? And so on hindsight he feels that that that might have been a mistake.

1:37:04 Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, I was shocked that he said that, because because it was a complete one eighty from everything he's ever said on the subject, because everything else any other time, in any interview or even in his book. He talks about it. In his book, he talks about it a lot. The decision to do that, the reason they did it at the time was because, you know, the makeup on a business level had run its course. It had seemed Kiss had gone from being one of the biggest bands in the world to having a couple of tough years where in the United States, you know, they had really kind of fallen down and they needed to change.

1:37:40 Speaker 1: It was time for a drastic change in the band. And so it's like Paul the way Paul talks about it in his book. For example, in his autobiography, he talks about the conversations he had about it with Gene because he had to talk Gene into it. It was Paul's idea, oh, and he had to know that, and he had to talk Gene into it. And he said to Gene, he said, we have nowhere else to go. We have to do this. Because both when they took the makeup off in eighty three and when they put it back on in ninety six for the reunion tour with the original lineup, in both instances, Paul had to talk Gene into it in both In both to put the makeup back on.

1:38:14 Speaker 1: To put the makeup back on, he had to talk Gene into it too. Both times he had to talk Gene into it. It was it was Paul who really wanted to do it, and you know, and obviously he did talk Gene into it. And the thing is, so Paul felt they couldn't continue on at that point in eighty three with the makeup. They had to make this change. And Paul was like, you know, not only will not only will it kind of refresh the band, it's sort of you know, it'll also proved to everybody, you know, the haters, the doubters, the critics, you know, that were more than just the makeup and the flash and all that, and that were there were real band of course, of course, so they took the biggest scambal of their career.

1:38:55 Speaker 1: They actually they because they were rolling the dice. It was a scary time for the band, and and Paul talked about that a lot in his book. Two was a scary time because this was a big risk, a big gamble, you know, and they did the unmasking on MTV and whatnot. Turn turned out. And this is part of why it's so shocking to me that Paul said this recently turned out it was the right call because it did it. It brought them back. You know, they they'd had a couple of tough years, but they they take the makeup off and that first single, no Makeup, Lick it up ended up being a big hit, and they're back.

1:39:29 Speaker 1: You know, they're on MTV now and the songs on the radio and Lick It Up goes platinum, and you know, so it really brought them back. Now. Granted, during that non makeup era of the band, they were never as big as they were during that original makeup era where they were one of the biggest bands in the world. Yeah, but they were still doing really well. That was a successful period that all those albums went platinum. You know, they were still able to do the arena tours, the big arena tours. They they didn't have to scale down and play club or anything like that.

1:40:01 Speaker 1: So this is a pretty successful period and so but they had to do it, like they had to take that risk.

1:40:08 Speaker 35: Did he qualify his statement as to why he thinks it's a mistake.

1:40:11 Speaker 1: Now, he just said he said that, you know, looking back on it, he thinks that, you know, they should have maybe it would have been smarter to stick with that iconic image that they had created and not tamper with that. But he's never said that before, and I was just so shocked because he's always maintained up until recently that it was the right decision because that's what they had to do to save the band, and it worked, It did save the band, and so it's so I was so shocked when I saw that when he says, you know, in hindsight, I think it was a mistake.

1:40:43 Speaker 1: It was like really interesting, very shocked.

1:40:46 Speaker 44: Did you get older you change your perspectives on how you see things. I mean, yeah, I can look back on my youth and go, oh god, you are so ignorant, but.

1:40:54 Speaker 1: There's no window.

1:40:55 Speaker 44: But yeah, we all make decisions. But it's you know, it is interesting because I mean, like you said, it kept them, it kept them viable. It kept them making money. Yeah, it gave them the whole new downsize already, like.

1:41:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gave them a whole new you know, I gave them a big boost, you know.

1:41:11 Speaker 35: Yeah, so that is interesting.

1:41:14 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:41:14 Speaker 14: Yeah.

1:41:17 Speaker 1: And then and also too, if they had if they had never taken the makeup off the reunion in ninety six, when they put the original lineup back together and put the makeup back on, that wouldn't have meant nearly as much, you know, Yes.

1:41:32 Speaker 35: I agree, So I agree.

1:41:35 Speaker 44: It would have been like, yeah, whatever, okay, well no, I mean, it would have been the original lineup, so there's definitely something to say there. It still would have been a little bit It wouldn't have been as dramatic putting the makeup back on, right, right, except for what a decade?

1:41:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen years? Yeah, yeah, the non makeup era lasted thirteen years.

1:41:54 Speaker 35: Did you like the music better during that era or what's your favorite era of Kiss?

1:41:58 Speaker 1: I love every era of Kiss, but my favorite era is late makeup era, like, you know, the first half of the nineties when they were still out of makeup. That was my favorite era of Kiss. But see, I mean part of my perspective is when I became a Kiss fan. They were already out of the makeup for a couple of years. It was actually Tears Are Falling?

1:42:20 Speaker 44: Well, you were after the makeup? Yeah, yeah, I guess I kind of assumed you were in it from the beginning. No, no, no, I was you were a late bloomer.

1:42:31 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when I really got into Kiss, it was the video for Tears Are Falling was on MTV. It was on in heavy rotation actually, and I was I still remember I was watching MTV one day after school and the video for Teers Are Falling is on, and my dad comes home from work and he kind of pokes his head into the living room and says, Maddie, who is that is that Kiss? And I said yeah. He said I really liked this song and I said, oh, yeah, me too. It's like my favorite song right now. And I guess he kind of made a mental note of that, because then he got me that album for Christmas.

1:43:07 Speaker 1: He got me a Kiss Asylum was the album, and I think Kiss fan was born and yeah, and that was, you know, and I listened to that over and over and that was when Kiss became my favorite band. But yeah, so they were already out of the makeup anyway. So but yeah, and then and then Paul had to talk Gene into it in ninety six when uh, because they did the MTV Unplugged where they were able to, you know, the two guys, the two original guys who were not in the band at that point, Peter Chris and Ace Raeley, they were able to join in for a few songs.

1:43:41 Speaker 1: So that that kind of that kind of got the ball rolling. You know, well, maybe we should put the original lineup back together and do a reunion in full makeup.

1:43:49 Speaker 14: That makes sense.

1:43:49 Speaker 1: But again Paul had to talk Gene into it because Gene wanted to. He was skeptical and he was like, like, I like the path we're on now, we should just keep going with this. And Paul said, now that the fans want this, and you know, and he was right because that ended up being that reunion tour that summer in ninety six, Kiss and Metallica, those were the two top selling tours of the summer. That's how huge that was. I mean, it was, it was massively successful.

1:44:18 Speaker 35: So true they did the right thing in the end.

1:44:21 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So one other quick thing here, and I think I'd sent this one to you. This is because we talk about it even came up in our conversation with Cammy Nicks. We talked on the show a lot about AI and AI and music, and so this relates very directly to that. This is from the BBC, AI claims and a hoax spokesman. Viral band confuses the world of music. So there's this viral band. This is this band is AI generated? Check this out. So a band called The Velvet Sundown has had its tracks played hundreds of thousands of times on Spotify since appearing several weeks ago, without anyone knowing for sure what it is.

1:45:05 Speaker 1: The band has a verified page on the music streaming platform with more than eight hundred and fifty thousand monthly listeners. That's a hit. However, none of the four named musicians in the band have given any interviews or appear to have individual social media accounts, and there are no records of any live performances. It is prompted accusations that they and their music are AI generated something the band, something the band denies on social media, not on camera, and the band did not respond to the BBC's request for an interview.

1:45:44 Speaker 1: This is kind of funny, I mean it's scary, but it's kind of funny at the same time. Further confusing the story, Rolling Stone reported that the bands spokesman had admitted The Velvet Sundown's music had been generated using an AI tool called care to Guess Studio, the one the one we've used, only for the magazine to UH to report shortly afterwards that the spokesman was himself a hoax.

1:46:17 Speaker 35: The spokesman was Ai yes oh, I missed that part.

1:46:20 Speaker 1: The man who goes by the name of Andrew Frehlan UH said it was a deliberate plot to hoax the media. A statement on the band Spotify page said that the group has quote no affiliation with this individual nor any evidence confirming their identity or existence unquote. An account on x which claims to be the band's official channel is also fake, it added. Professor Gina Neff from the Mindero or Mindaru Center for Technology and Democracy. Let's go with MINDERU because that's fun to say at the University of Cambridge says it points to a problem which affects much more than just one band.

1:47:01 Speaker 1: She said, quote whether this is an AI band may not seem important, but increasingly our collective grip on reality seems shaky. The Velvet Sundown story plays into the fears we have of losing control of AI and shows how important protecting online information is. Unquote. The Velvet sundowns indie ballads with guitar music and male vocals is fairly easy. If bland on the ear with lyrics such as eyes like film in faded light dreams, walk barefoot into the night, ash and velvet smoke, and flame calling out in Freedom's name, it could all feasibly be either AI generated or appenned by humans.

1:47:50 Speaker 44: Uh yeah, do you remember that happened with me recently? Yai band an.

1:47:58 Speaker 1: AI band contacted you.

1:48:00 Speaker 35: Well, I contected them.

1:48:04 Speaker 44: The name is Interfury, Yes, and I really liked the music and thought, oh, these guys are great.

1:48:10 Speaker 1: I'd love to have them on.

1:48:12 Speaker 44: And then I come to find out they are the creation of one human who created these other humans that.

1:48:18 Speaker 3: Are not human.

1:48:18 Speaker 44: They are AI, and the whole band is is Yeah, his his musical creation. But in this instance is a big difference because he said every single lyric has been written by him.

1:48:33 Speaker 35: Yeah, for this particular band, Interfury.

1:48:36 Speaker 44: So I don't know about the other person, but I know that all The lyrics to this particular music is claimed to have been written by the artist.

1:48:44 Speaker 1: Let's see so they have us. I just looked up on YouTube. I want to I want to check out the music of the Velvet Sundown. They have a Velvet Sundown song called dust on the Wind. Not dust in the Wind, that's that's Kansas. This is dust on the Wind. Let's uh. I want to hear this and just see what it's like. Uh, here we go. Oh, it's got to get through these commercials. It is uh, it is monetized content. Let's see dust on the Wind.

1:49:18 Speaker 35: I say that's pretty smart.

1:49:30 Speaker 25: Dust on the wind, boots on the ground, smoking the sky.

1:49:38 Speaker 33: No peace, faun rivers run raid the drums are also.

1:49:46 Speaker 3: Tell me brother, where do we go? Raise your hand all away, sing how loud?

1:50:00 Speaker 5: Hey coma pay.

1:50:02 Speaker 3: Much hoopy note fau pride, Let.

1:50:08 Speaker 1: That fly turn with the child. M hm, well it sounds very pro war.

1:50:26 Speaker 3: Let's fly.

1:50:27 Speaker 33: You think it's pro Mama praise, while Young Manda.

1:50:33 Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Yeah, it's it sounds like it's we we still got time to make a stand. God time made It's a it's a lyric video that I'm playing it from that's why the lyrics.

1:50:48 Speaker 33: Look away, sing down loud, may compay.

1:50:55 Speaker 3: Much happy note f pride.

1:51:07 Speaker 1: I gotta say I love this AI generated voice. It's voice.

1:51:11 Speaker 35: Yeah, that's kind of an issue.

1:51:14 Speaker 44: Because all the ones I've heard so far, but actually really good. So that's that's kind of boo. Oh yeah, yeah, I want to I just want to know what is AI and what is human?

1:51:25 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.

1:51:25 Speaker 44: Yeah, I think there should be a little disclaimer or something. Yeah, like this is my creation, but the band is Magic, the Velvet Sundown. I'm curious if I can find anything else.

1:51:37 Speaker 1: Of there here.

1:51:39 Speaker 44: Uh so you should check out that Interfury one. Yeah no, you showed me that, Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah I did show it too.

1:51:48 Speaker 1: Oh. They've got a whole album called Dust and Silence, Dust and Silence. Yeah, let's see.

1:51:53 Speaker 35: This was the song though, wasn't it dust, Dust on the Wind, on the Wind.

1:51:57 Speaker 1: This one's called let It Bird.

1:52:06 Speaker 33: Flicker, lights on silver sad, marching ghosts with no commands,

1:52:20 Speaker 33: velvet boots on mirrored ground, drums of thunder distance.

1:52:33 Speaker 5: Promises, e static blue.

1:52:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it is a little bland, but all right there it is the world Radio premiere of The Velvet Sundown.

1:52:47 Speaker 3: No, we don't close your eyes and smoke these.

1:52:53 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these song titles. I do too. I'm looking at these song titles and this titles like Driftwood, Soul Jurors, where War Remains. Oh yeah, this is all. There seems to be a theme war debt yeh Crimson Parade.

1:53:13 Speaker 3: Oh isn't that a pretty image?

1:53:15 Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1:53:18 Speaker 13: Yeah.

1:53:18 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff in the lyrics about waving flags and maybe the person making people pay, the person.

1:53:24 Speaker 35: Created maybe be a veteran. Maybe you like, do we know anything about the creator?

1:53:30 Speaker 1: No, we don't know anything about just that they're not real and there.

1:53:35 Speaker 35: And their contact isn't real either, right, spokesperson.

1:53:40 Speaker 1: The spokesperson was not real. There's an AI generated picture of them, of the band.

1:53:48 Speaker 35: They saw that when I was looking at it.

1:53:50 Speaker 1: They look like uh, but the one.

1:53:54 Speaker 35: Yes, but you can tell like at least the one on the right hand side.

1:53:57 Speaker 1: Looked like he was AI.

1:53:59 Speaker 19: Yeah.

1:53:59 Speaker 1: They kind he doesn't look like he's They kind of look fake. Yeah. Yeah, Well yeah, that's where we are.

1:54:07 Speaker 21: Now.

1:54:08 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll begin to wrap up. We're almost out of time.

1:54:13 Speaker 35: Oh my goodness.

1:54:14 Speaker 1: Yes, I hope everyone had a safe Fourth of July.

1:54:16 Speaker 35: Absolutely, I hope you're stuff with hamburgers.

1:54:19 Speaker 3: And hot dogs.

1:54:20 Speaker 1: Oh, and there is a new Tough Bumps up, Eric and I did it yesterday. Tough Bumps Episode ten is up. You can find that online. And Jenny, you want to You're always up to a lot of stuff. You want to mention your website.

1:54:31 Speaker 44: Hi, you can always check me out at Jencoffee dot com. J E n n c O f f ui dot com. And I was told yesterday I have some things coming up, so stay tuned.

1:54:40 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. And if you want to know more about me and everything, I'm up to Matt Connerton dot com. And thank you again of course everyone who joined us today, Cammy Nix And in the second hour we had a congregation x they sounded amazing. And in the first hour we had Shanna Trehan, author of The Anxiety Fix. That was a very interesting conversation. And if you miss any part of today's show, it will be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org and at my website Matt Connerton dot com.

1:55:09 Speaker 1: And I also want to mention before I play the show's outro music. That all the new music that you hear on the show, the bumper music, the new theme music. Everything that is our friend Dylan Reynolds from Adam Bomb. Wait. I want to make sure I get this right because I think I said the name of his service wrong the other day. I want to look at the logo because I want to give you the website too, for anyone who's interested. Oh, yeah, Dylan does great work. Yeah, so Adam Bomb is great, Adam Bomb Artwork and audio, and the website is adambom artwork dot com.

1:55:48 Speaker 1: Adam as an a t O m Adam Bomb, and yeah, Dylan's amazing. We love our friend Dylan Reynolds. So with that we shall bid you ado and and we'll talk at you all next week. Thanks everybody, Bye bye.

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