Congregation X | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: So we've got congregation exes here with us in the studio,

0:04 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna turn this board up. So they've got

0:07 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of stuff, a lot of this

0:09 Speaker 1: is a this is a full room. But we'll we'll see.

0:11 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna do a bunch of songs for us,

0:13 Speaker 1: gonna do four songs for us. So I'm gonna start

0:15 Speaker 1: turning up levels on these and we'll see what we get.

0:18 Speaker 1: Hopefully we can hear everybody. Uh, So, you've got a

0:21 Speaker 1: mic in front of you. So what's your name?

0:23 Speaker 2: Both, Parish, Parish?

0:26 Speaker 1: What channel is that mic.

0:27 Speaker 2: On this pike? Is on channel one?

0:29 Speaker 1: Channel one, So I'm turn that up. Oh there we go. Okay,

0:32 Speaker 1: Oh I can hear you can hear headphones? Yes, all right,

0:35 Speaker 1: very good. So and Parish, do you want to since

0:37 Speaker 1: you've got a mike, do you want to introduce everybody else?

0:39 Speaker 3: Yep.

0:39 Speaker 2: So I'm Parish.

0:40 Speaker 4: I am one of the lead vocalists and the keyboard

0:44 Speaker 4: player for Congregation X. To my left in the room,

0:47 Speaker 4: we have our amazing guitarist Nevin Brown.

0:50 Speaker 1: Hello Nevin.

0:51 Speaker 4: A little further to the left, we have our lead

0:54 Speaker 4: lead lead singer Alexandria Bracado.

0:57 Speaker 1: Hi, Alexandria, welcome.

0:58 Speaker 4: And then on the left we have our small square

1:01 Speaker 4: wooden drum kit player Jake Russell.

1:04 Speaker 1: Hi, Jake, welcome.

1:06 Speaker 4: And over on the far left in the room, we

1:09 Speaker 4: have the Mandament the Legend Josh Schultz on bass.

1:12 Speaker 1: Josh welcome. This is the first time, by the way,

1:14 Speaker 1: that we've ever had an upright bass in the studio,

1:17 Speaker 1: so that's very cool. I'm a bass player too, so

1:19 Speaker 1: I'm very impressed just to see up close, upright bass. Okay,

1:26 Speaker 1: so let's uh, let's make sure we can hear everybody.

1:29 Speaker 1: So let's have a little guitar too. Okay, yeah, sounds good,

1:39 Speaker 1: sounds good. And Alexandria, where are you where she plugged in?

1:43 Speaker 2: She is on eight, I recall correctly on eight.

1:48 Speaker 1: Go ahead and say something, hey, everybody, Oh good, you're

1:52 Speaker 1: definitely in the mix. Excellent, excellent, okay, and usually pretty

1:58 Speaker 1: much any any mics in the room and picking up drum,

2:01 Speaker 1: just just tap that thing a little bit though, just

2:03 Speaker 1: make sure we oh yeah, yeah, oh nice. Okay, does

2:06 Speaker 1: that have a mic in front of it?

2:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, it has My forty forty seven that should be

2:10 Speaker 4: on channel.

2:11 Speaker 1: We're not gonna need it. Yeah, I can already. I

2:13 Speaker 1: can already tell you we're not gonna need it.

2:14 Speaker 3: Yeah.

2:14 Speaker 1: What what channel is that on?

2:16 Speaker 2: I think it's on five on five?

2:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I.

2:21 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn that one down, we're not gonna need it. Okay.

2:24 Speaker 1: And and oh sorry, three, it's on three.

2:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that means bass is on five.

2:29 Speaker 1: Okay, bass is on five. Okay, let's hear a little

2:31 Speaker 1: of that bass. Yeah, that sounds nice. That sounds really nice. Okay.

2:39 Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're good. Play play a

2:42 Speaker 1: little something. Yeah, and let me just see just so

2:45 Speaker 1: I know that. Uh, let's do Yeah, this doesn't have

2:49 Speaker 1: to count as one of the songs, just part of something.

3:14 Speaker 1: Sounds good in the headphones. Nice, Yeah, sounds good. All right.

3:19 Speaker 1: So Congregation Acts, if you're just joining us, Congregation Acts

3:22 Speaker 1: is here with us live in studio and uh, paris,

3:25 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You're gonna do your adjusting.

3:28 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's all right. You're gonna do four songs

3:31 Speaker 1: for us today.

3:31 Speaker 2: We got four songs for you.

3:33 Speaker 1: Okay. I can't hear you for some reason. What channel

3:35 Speaker 1: are you in again?

3:36 Speaker 2: I am on channel one Channel one.

3:38 Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, gotcha? I mean I could hear you, you

3:41 Speaker 1: just weren't very loud. But and then when I when

3:43 Speaker 1: I put the podcast up, everything we'll get compressed anyway.

3:45 Speaker 1: But so all right, yeah, great, So you're gonna do

3:48 Speaker 1: four songs, yep.

3:50 Speaker 4: So this first one we've got is called twenty four hours.

3:53 Speaker 4: All right, Alexandria, you want give us a rundown?

3:55 Speaker 2: And what that is?

3:56 Speaker 6: Oh, twenty four hours the first.

3:58 Speaker 7: Song that we ever wrote as a band. It's pretty

4:01 Speaker 7: much about having so much love and not enough time

4:05 Speaker 7: to you know, extend it out to everywhere you want to.

4:09 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congregation X live in studio.

4:33 Speaker 6: I've got so much love to get love motion thinking

4:40 Speaker 6: on who I am, where I have been so sweet,

4:51 Speaker 6: I've fallen down again again. Also that see what it

5:01 Speaker 6: is to finally feel so free less time in twenty

5:18 Speaker 6: four hours?

5:20 Speaker 3: It just ain't enough.

5:30 Speaker 6: It feels like times against me. If you look close

5:37 Speaker 6: to you will see all of these moments passing by.

5:42 Speaker 3: Give me motivation and dry mm hmmm, and all to

5:50 Speaker 3: the patent.

5:52 Speaker 6: I want to thank you, yeah for sure for me,

5:57 Speaker 6: the way a beautiful lesson every day life is like

6:01 Speaker 6: the ocean riding ways.

6:07 Speaker 3: Sometimes I get so tired the end of the day.

6:13 Speaker 6: It comes to face when times seems to kids mere.

6:21 Speaker 3: Gets hard to.

6:21 Speaker 8: Live in love week by week, Yeah.

6:25 Speaker 9: Seems to gout this time.

6:30 Speaker 6: In twenty four hours, it just ain't enough. So thank

6:57 Speaker 6: you for all the love you got me through the

7:03 Speaker 6: time always got to Yeah we've been through. Oh, I'm

7:09 Speaker 6: so grateful you. I'm proud of who I've become.

7:19 Speaker 3: I finally felt where I've been alone. Your love to

7:25 Speaker 3: spite me.

7:28 Speaker 6: You want to live my life in love so free.

7:39 Speaker 3: It seems a godless time.

7:44 Speaker 10: And more.

7:48 Speaker 6: Twenty four hours, it just ain't enough, seems a good

7:54 Speaker 6: less time, baby.

8:02 Speaker 3: For our was It just ain't love. It just ain't.

8:29 Speaker 1: Oh that was great congregation access here with us alive

8:33 Speaker 1: in studio. That was amazing, great job, great, great job. Hey, Wit,

8:37 Speaker 1: which channel is that guitar? And again that is.

8:40 Speaker 2: Your channel too, so that would be your microphone.

8:43 Speaker 1: Pull up a little bit. But yeah, no, it sounds great.

8:45 Speaker 1: All right, pretty good. What are you gonna play next?

8:48 Speaker 4: So up next we have another song called show You,

8:52 Speaker 4: which is one of the early another one of the

8:54 Speaker 4: early originals of the band song Okay, I love song

8:57 Speaker 4: and it's part of a trio of love songs that

9:00 Speaker 4: end in a murder.

9:02 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, ind okay alleged murder.

9:06 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, Congregation X live

9:10 Speaker 1: in studio.

9:16 Speaker 6: You want you, you will you.

9:29 Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

9:36 Speaker 6: I really wanna show you.

9:43 Speaker 3: I want to show you what is love with that effect.

9:52 Speaker 6: I want to chieve you ride. You feel so different

9:58 Speaker 6: from the re has not but it's so really I

10:06 Speaker 6: want to set you free, take you there and come on,

10:10 Speaker 6: bake but ten a head. I'll give you sweetness. Say

10:17 Speaker 6: you've been missing, You've been spending your whole life helping

10:30 Speaker 6: everybody fly. Come over here with abstraction wings, have some.

10:41 Speaker 3: Love to give you a baby.

10:47 Speaker 6: I want to hear you sing, see you dance, make

10:50 Speaker 6: you smile, give me the chair.

10:56 Speaker 3: I want to show me all you. Won't you he Oh,

11:08 Speaker 3: won't you hear?

12:34 Speaker 6: You've been spending your whole life helping ever everybody's fly.

12:41 Speaker 6: Come over here with.

12:43 Speaker 3: A scratch of wings. I guess some bandy j.

12:48 Speaker 6: Love to give you baby ah.

12:55 Speaker 3: Hope you understand nasty, the real you.

12:59 Speaker 1: I want to show you what is.

13:03 Speaker 11: A lie to be by your brities.

13:09 Speaker 3: I give you sweet this that you been listen.

13:17 Speaker 11: I want to show you.

13:21 Speaker 3: I you want you.

13:28 Speaker 12: Oh w you.

13:33 Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

13:40 Speaker 6: I want to show you.

13:48 Speaker 1: Who oh fantastic, fantastic.

14:08 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Matt.

14:09 Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you're just joining us, we have congregation acts

14:11 Speaker 1: here with us live in studio. Is this unusual to

14:15 Speaker 1: do this this early?

14:17 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit shows?

14:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you sound great though. You sound great,

14:23 Speaker 1: by the way, So where before you play the next one?

14:26 Speaker 1: Where should people go to find you online? For people

14:28 Speaker 1: who want to keep up with everything that you're doing.

14:30 Speaker 4: So you can find us on Instagram at Congregation X

14:33 Speaker 4: and on Facebook at Congregation X. Okay, and that's currently

14:38 Speaker 4: where we're available. We will have a website and things

14:40 Speaker 4: like that coming out very soon.

14:42 Speaker 1: Okay.

14:43 Speaker 2: Oh and we have a YouTube channel.

14:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of stuff on there actually, yeah.

14:48 Speaker 2: Yeah.

14:48 Speaker 4: We actually recently just played a great show up at

14:50 Speaker 4: a hermit Wood's Winery in the Loft and that whole

14:53 Speaker 4: show is actually available to uh stream and check out

14:56 Speaker 4: up on YouTube.

14:57 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice? And you don't have any studio music? Yeah right.

15:00 Speaker 4: We actually just recorded our first our first EP, so

15:05 Speaker 4: we're going to be mixing that and releasing it within

15:08 Speaker 4: the next couple months.

15:09 Speaker 1: Oh, congratulations, excellent, thank you. Yeah, you can't wait to

15:11 Speaker 1: hear that. Very good, very good. Well I got to

15:13 Speaker 1: ask you this too. Where does the name come from?

15:14 Speaker 1: Congregation X.

15:17 Speaker 2: So it was kind of a working title.

15:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the story, yeah, step up to the mic

15:23 Speaker 1: there in Nevin.

15:26 Speaker 13: So the story goes that the original lineup, the majority

15:30 Speaker 13: of us met at the Stone Church, New Market, So

15:34 Speaker 13: we wanted something that represented that place because.

15:36 Speaker 14: Of special to us.

15:38 Speaker 13: Oh okay, and the X sort of represents our future

15:41 Speaker 13: journey because we've pulled together musicians from different styles and

15:45 Speaker 13: different backgrounds. Yeah, and it represents the potential of what

15:48 Speaker 13: we have that we can do as a group on

15:51 Speaker 13: a single journey.

15:52 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that makes sense. I love it. I love

15:55 Speaker 1: it very good. All right.

15:56 Speaker 7: That that and it's what he put. He put in

15:59 Speaker 7: the calendar, and eventually we were just like that actually

16:03 Speaker 7: really is us?

16:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, big X men?

16:05 Speaker 1: Oh well there all right?

16:09 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, our group chat is called X men.

16:11 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like it?

16:13 Speaker 5: All right?

16:13 Speaker 1: Great good? Yeah, all right, you want to play another one?

16:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hit it, all right.

16:16 Speaker 1: Congregation X live in studio.

16:31 Speaker 5: Street sign give a green it turning.

16:42 Speaker 15: Silent, Southern Night's split by sirens on the weird.

16:46 Speaker 16: Fun b line glass You guys stand out in the street.

17:02 Speaker 17: All my regrets. It was nothing that I could have

17:07 Speaker 17: sid We got down to.

17:14 Speaker 5: The river to wash ourselves clean.

17:17 Speaker 16: If the ice want to to get old and we

17:22 Speaker 16: need hope live mind old?

17:25 Speaker 5: You got the trouble you see? Won't you be very going?

17:30 Speaker 5: Won't you be even him line?

17:56 Speaker 17: Oh see he's crest you man.

18:04 Speaker 5: Fine the claris in the alley passed through starting when

18:17 Speaker 5: you father.

18:19 Speaker 18: Road laying on the ground last week bur in time treating.

18:35 Speaker 17: We go to the river to wash yourself screen if

18:40 Speaker 17: he has weren't you deems to get.

18:43 Speaker 19: All lef me?

18:46 Speaker 3: Oh Heaven my hold you for the trouble you see?

18:51 Speaker 5: Won't you be ever?

18:53 Speaker 3: Won't you be ever.

19:09 Speaker 20: To the very.

19:43 Speaker 15: Down to the river to wash yourselves clean? And fee

19:48 Speaker 15: ies weren't too deep to get all? Do he need hope?

19:53 Speaker 2: Heaven might hold you for the trouble you so? Won't

19:58 Speaker 2: you be ve you?

20:00 Speaker 20: Won't you be We got into the river to watch.

20:06 Speaker 6: Yourself screen every yes, were you dam secret all that?

20:13 Speaker 3: Oh hell, won't you the trouble you see. Won't you

20:19 Speaker 3: be at the day, won't you be at the.

20:43 Speaker 1: Mm hmm fantastic, fantastic, Thank you absolutely. Congregation Acts here

20:55 Speaker 1: with us live in studio, sounding great. And then so

20:59 Speaker 1: you want to do more? You said you want to

21:01 Speaker 1: do four?

21:01 Speaker 21: You want?

21:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got one more for you if.

21:03 Speaker 1: You got absolutely absolutely we do. Yes, Congregation Acts is

21:07 Speaker 1: with us live in studio and uh yeah, if you

21:10 Speaker 1: have a chance to see them live, you definitely want to.

21:12 Speaker 1: This is great, This is great, Thank you so much

21:14 Speaker 1: having us absolutely glad to do it.

21:18 Speaker 3: All right?

21:19 Speaker 1: What have you got?

21:19 Speaker 21: Oh?

21:20 Speaker 1: Oh oh?

21:20 Speaker 6: This song is called have you ever?

21:22 Speaker 1: Have you ever? Congregation X?

21:34 Speaker 3: Have you love? Standing?

21:52 Speaker 6: Something about you? You carry yourself and that I'm still

22:00 Speaker 6: drawn too. I see you, my poinschen, my cheeks kid,

22:08 Speaker 6: I am my keet thinking. I bet you could give

22:12 Speaker 6: me the right kind of scratch.

22:16 Speaker 3: Have the thought?

22:19 Speaker 6: Can you see what I see?

22:24 Speaker 3: Is your visual clear?

22:25 Speaker 6: Can you feel the electriss city?

22:34 Speaker 22: Do you have a name, because I've just been calling

22:41 Speaker 22: you my future.

22:46 Speaker 6: Every time I see your face. So I catch myself

22:50 Speaker 6: holding in my bread hoping that you come on over

22:57 Speaker 6: to me. Something deliciouss come in your way, baby, if

23:33 Speaker 6: you like it, I know that you see the way

23:38 Speaker 6: I move. Now I'm next to you. Now there, I

23:43 Speaker 6: have got your retention. I put your heart in my attention.

23:49 Speaker 6: I would like to spend some time with you long.

23:58 Speaker 3: Not very first babe.

24:03 Speaker 6: Litting in the kitchen at two am, the first time

24:11 Speaker 6: kissing says, I figures into love.

24:17 Speaker 3: Don't bad that you come on over to me? Babe.

24:27 Speaker 3: I could teach you.

24:28 Speaker 6: So many things, show your other radways to love me

24:39 Speaker 6: one here here and apple one o there and bab

24:44 Speaker 6: people fly away? You bill walking through my mind? Under it?

25:01 Speaker 6: If you're the one? Oh, we're brave enough to thunder?

25:09 Speaker 6: Do you think of me like this too? Because we

25:15 Speaker 6: just don't know you.

25:24 Speaker 8: You're picking up on the barbe I'm picking up bad.

25:29 Speaker 8: We're never run, We're never I'm around you.

25:38 Speaker 3: If you're all in you? If you could read my mom, well,

25:42 Speaker 3: whatt you do? Have you ever bad? Some delicious sis?

25:53 Speaker 19: Come?

25:53 Speaker 21: Man?

25:54 Speaker 8: You're way baby, if you let it, I would like

25:59 Speaker 8: a spence.

26:01 Speaker 3: With you. Have gotcha attention?

26:11 Speaker 8: Listen, We'll just spensup time with you.

26:18 Speaker 20: Have you have?

26:25 Speaker 3: Have you live?

26:33 Speaker 1: Oh? Incredible incredible congregation acts everybody great job, great job.

26:40 Speaker 1: Tell us again, where should people go to keep up

26:42 Speaker 1: with everything you're doing?

26:43 Speaker 4: So if you want to keep up with us, you

26:45 Speaker 4: want to find us on YouTube, Instagram, or Facebook. Our

26:49 Speaker 4: future show announcements first drop on our Instagram, So that's

26:52 Speaker 4: a pleace to find us.

26:53 Speaker 1: Really nice. Do you have do you have anything tonight

26:55 Speaker 1: for people listening live on Saturday? You got anything tonight

26:59 Speaker 1: you want to plug or this week?

27:00 Speaker 4: Well, if you are hanging out at home tonight you

27:03 Speaker 4: want to be in a concert sitting at home, We

27:06 Speaker 4: have a live show from hermit Wood's Winery right up

27:09 Speaker 4: in the loft that you can tune into on our

27:12 Speaker 4: YouTube at congregation x oh very and available on the

27:15 Speaker 4: hermit Woods Winery YouTube.

27:17 Speaker 2: So if you want to be.

27:19 Speaker 4: Able to hang out with a little thing of popcorn

27:21 Speaker 4: and you know, not have to go anywhere.

27:23 Speaker 2: Pay for tickets, go ahead and check it out.

27:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have some new shows coming up coming

27:28 Speaker 4: into September October.

27:29 Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, excellent? What time does that start? The live

27:32 Speaker 1: stream tonight?

27:33 Speaker 4: The live stream is already done. So the live stream

27:35 Speaker 4: it was a live recorded stream, oh say, it was

27:38 Speaker 4: a live recorded show.

27:39 Speaker 2: We did like a month or so ago. Oh I

27:41 Speaker 2: got you already available?

27:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay.

27:43 Speaker 6: In other words, we're taking this month to write some

27:46 Speaker 6: new songs to add to.

27:47 Speaker 1: Oh okay list, gotcha, gotcha? Good good, there you go. Yeah.

27:52 Speaker 23: Yeah.

27:52 Speaker 2: Think of it as like congregation acts on demand.

27:54 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, very cool. Well, I want to

27:58 Speaker 1: thank you all for coming in. This has been amazing.

28:00 Speaker 1: You just sound incredible.

28:01 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

28:02 Speaker 1: Anything absolutely anything we didn't talk about. You want to

28:05 Speaker 1: make sure our listeners know they know where to find you,

28:07 Speaker 1: they know new album and a couple uh.

28:13 Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, yes, So we are actually playing a

28:17 Speaker 4: summer series show. Let's see, we're gonna be playing one

28:20 Speaker 4: in September at the Amp in Barrington. If you follow

28:25 Speaker 4: us on Facebook, we'll have information coming out about that.

28:28 Speaker 4: And then, oh yeah, there is one sooner we're gonna

28:32 Speaker 4: you follow us on Facebook. We're going to have a

28:35 Speaker 4: little house show coming up next this month, actually on

28:38 Speaker 4: the nineteenth.

28:39 Speaker 2: If you want to come out and see that.

28:41 Speaker 6: Feel free writing songs.

28:43 Speaker 4: In between writing new songs, feel free to follow us

28:45 Speaker 4: on Facebook and we can get you some information on

28:48 Speaker 4: that and it's going to be a great show. And

28:50 Speaker 4: then We will actually be performing at the press room

28:54 Speaker 4: this new this November, so we'll be uh if you

28:56 Speaker 4: want to come down to Portsmouth and hang out with us,

28:59 Speaker 4: we'll have information come out about that very soon.

29:01 Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding, all right, congregation X, thank you all five

29:05 Speaker 1: of you for being here today. This has been amazing.

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58:05 Speaker 1: That is catchy as hell, That is greedy. That's the

58:07 Speaker 1: name of the track. That is Cammy next, and we're

58:10 Speaker 1: going to talk with Cammy in just a moment. Welcome everybody.

58:13 Speaker 1: This is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We have entered our number

58:15 Speaker 1: three New Marrow Trace on this Saturday, July five, twenty

58:20 Speaker 1: twenty five. Thank you all for joining us, and Jenny

58:23 Speaker 1: is here, of course, is at the news table, presentent

58:25 Speaker 1: accounted for. I think I almost at news Desko seeing

58:28 Speaker 1: old school. It's a table and uh let's see Campy here.

58:32 Speaker 1: Bring Cammy on here, Cammy, are you there?

58:36 Speaker 3: Hi?

58:36 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here, Welcome to the program. We just started

58:39 Speaker 1: using Google teams recently, so it's still a little bit

58:42 Speaker 1: of an adventure.

58:44 Speaker 5: Okay.

58:45 Speaker 1: So I'm always relieved when the guest is connected and

58:47 Speaker 1: everything's good. Welcome to the show. I love that song, Greedy,

58:50 Speaker 1: It's very very catchy.

58:52 Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and thank you for having me.

58:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Uh So, where are you from?

59:00 Speaker 9: Columbus, Ohio? But I live in Nashville?

59:02 Speaker 1: Now, okay, okay, what's it like living in Nashville? Because

59:06 Speaker 1: you know, we've had we've had a lot of guests

59:08 Speaker 1: on the show who have traveled there, but you know,

59:12 Speaker 1: maybe to spend a weekend or a week there. But

59:14 Speaker 1: I don't think we've had anybody on the show who

59:17 Speaker 1: lives there currently. And obviously Nashville known for being for music.

59:21 Speaker 1: I mean, is is it a lot of pressure there

59:23 Speaker 1: living there and being a part of the scene there

59:26 Speaker 1: or what's that like?

59:27 Speaker 9: It is definitely interesting. There's a lot of pressure, but

59:32 Speaker 9: more so I just say, it's very saturated, so it's

59:36 Speaker 9: really really difficult to get your foot in the door.

59:39 Speaker 9: But at the same time, because it's so saturated, there's

59:41 Speaker 9: so many people to work with and so many people

59:44 Speaker 9: to network with. Yeah, and it's such a good community

59:47 Speaker 9: of people, but it is very tricky to kind of

59:52 Speaker 9: get going and get a name for yourself.

59:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine it is. But

59:57 Speaker 1: that's that's a great place to be for what you're doing,

1:00:00 Speaker 1: and it's it might cut against some of the ideas

1:00:03 Speaker 1: some of the preconceptions too, that people have about Nashville,

1:00:05 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people when they hear Nashville,

1:00:08 Speaker 1: especially people not in the industry, they think of country music.

1:00:11 Speaker 1: But it's more than just country music. And obviously, you know,

1:00:13 Speaker 1: what you're doing is in country. I don't know if

1:00:16 Speaker 1: you have any country songs, but but really, I mean

1:00:19 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of music happening there, and there's all

1:00:21 Speaker 1: kinds of connections you can make and people to work with, right.

1:00:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I think it has the stigma that it's

1:00:26 Speaker 9: country music because that's what it started as. But it's

1:00:30 Speaker 9: really any and every genre. And it is more so

1:00:33 Speaker 9: just the music city, as people call it, and this

1:00:37 Speaker 9: is where everyone comes to record, even non country people.

1:00:41 Speaker 9: They all record in the studios here or work with

1:00:43 Speaker 9: people here, or have session players from Nashville because these

1:00:48 Speaker 9: people are very talented and they can play any genre.

1:00:51 Speaker 9: They can do anything. So yeah, it's it's any genre really.

1:00:55 Speaker 1: Absolutely. How long have you lived there?

1:00:57 Speaker 9: This is my sixth year living here.

1:01:00 Speaker 1: Oh leave, Oh you've been there a long time? Okay, great? Great?

1:01:04 Speaker 9: Yeah, I went to college here, So I moved when

1:01:07 Speaker 9: I was seventeen.

1:01:08 Speaker 1: Oh outstanding? Okay? Was greedy? Was that recorded there?

1:01:14 Speaker 28: It was?

1:01:14 Speaker 15: Yeah?

1:01:14 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very cool. Now what about so you started

1:01:19 Speaker 1: pretty young? I would imagine you're from Ohio. Originally you said, right, yes,

1:01:23 Speaker 1: Were you involved in music before moving to Nashville? I assume,

1:01:27 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you moved there for school, but

1:01:29 Speaker 1: growing up you said, was a Columbus Ohio?

1:01:32 Speaker 9: You said, yeah, Columbus, Ohio. I grew up there and

1:01:37 Speaker 9: was definitely involved in music and specifically musical theater. I

1:01:41 Speaker 9: did a lot of that as a kid, in like

1:01:43 Speaker 9: growing up and in all throughout my life. In high school, everything.

1:01:47 Speaker 9: I was known as like the musical kid in my town,

1:01:50 Speaker 9: and I ran all the music programs. I was the

1:01:53 Speaker 9: president of all these different choirs and small ensembles, and

1:01:57 Speaker 9: I did all the community theater shows and this, that

1:02:00 Speaker 9: and the other. So I was definitely musically inclined from

1:02:04 Speaker 9: a very young age and that just kind of became

1:02:07 Speaker 9: my thing. And I didn't really do sports. It was

1:02:10 Speaker 9: always just music, and so I made the decision to

1:02:14 Speaker 9: Originally I was going to go to college for musical

1:02:16 Speaker 9: theater because I thought that I liked that, But I

1:02:19 Speaker 9: then quickly realized I just liked the singing part of it.

1:02:23 Speaker 9: I didn't care about the acting or the dancing. I

1:02:25 Speaker 9: just wanted some like someplace to sing in front of people. Sure,

1:02:30 Speaker 9: so then I pivoted and moved to Nashville to do music.

1:02:33 Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, but yeah, I mean doing music

1:02:35 Speaker 1: that was clearly inevitable, you know, given your background and

1:02:39 Speaker 1: everything that you did growing up. So so's that's great?

1:02:43 Speaker 40: Now?

1:02:43 Speaker 1: How many? So you have several singles out? I know,

1:02:46 Speaker 1: have you have you recorded an album or an EP

1:02:48 Speaker 1: yet or is that on your radar?

1:02:52 Speaker 9: It's not currently on my radar. I have four singles

1:02:55 Speaker 9: out right now, and I'm kind of just writing the

1:02:59 Speaker 9: singles because I think as a smaller, independent artist, it's

1:03:04 Speaker 9: pretty difficult to put out an EP or an album

1:03:08 Speaker 9: and expect people to listen to the whole thing. Yeah,

1:03:12 Speaker 9: because that's a lot easier when you have a big

1:03:14 Speaker 9: following and people want to sit down and listen to it.

1:03:17 Speaker 9: But I would rather create singles and put them out

1:03:20 Speaker 9: one at a time and give them a bunch of

1:03:22 Speaker 9: attention or as much as I can, and that way

1:03:25 Speaker 9: they get kind of the spotlight for a second, rather

1:03:28 Speaker 9: than putting out like a forty five minute long album

1:03:32 Speaker 9: and hoping that people will listen to it.

1:03:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense. It's a lot of

1:03:37 Speaker 1: artists it's very important to them to do albums. But

1:03:40 Speaker 1: there's I don't remember who it was we were talking

1:03:43 Speaker 1: to about this, but we had a guest on the

1:03:45 Speaker 1: show recently talking about how when you put out an album,

1:03:49 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, in terms of algorithms, like on Spotify,

1:03:53 Speaker 1: for example, you get that initial boost of okay, here's

1:03:56 Speaker 1: something new. You know, it might show up in your suggestions,

1:03:59 Speaker 1: here's something you like, whether it be Spotify or even

1:04:01 Speaker 1: on YouTube or wherever. But but you get that big bump,

1:04:05 Speaker 1: that little not even a big bump, but you get

1:04:07 Speaker 1: that little extra push once with the album and then

1:04:10 Speaker 1: that's it. Whereas if you just release a series of singles,

1:04:14 Speaker 1: with every single, you get that little push algorithmically speaking,

1:04:19 Speaker 1: and and so that ends up being a little bit

1:04:22 Speaker 1: of a more sustainable strategy. Although some of the guests

1:04:27 Speaker 1: too that we've had on the show recently, they've kind

1:04:29 Speaker 1: of inverted, you know, because the old approach, you know,

1:04:32 Speaker 1: sort of pre internet, was you release an album and

1:04:34 Speaker 1: then a series of singles to radio. And some artists

1:04:37 Speaker 1: now they release a series of singles that eventually coalesce

1:04:40 Speaker 1: into an album or any exactly. Yeah, but what you're doing,

1:04:44 Speaker 1: I think that's.

1:04:45 Speaker 9: More than norm I think now as people putting out

1:04:48 Speaker 9: singles and then they release like an EP, but it's

1:04:50 Speaker 9: just all of the singles they've already put out.

1:04:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now in terms of you, uh, in

1:04:57 Speaker 1: terms of your songs, the songs that you've put out,

1:04:59 Speaker 1: are these written by you or do you have I'm

1:05:02 Speaker 1: really curious about this, especially given where you are geographically,

1:05:05 Speaker 1: because you have so many you know, you're just surrounded

1:05:08 Speaker 1: by all kinds of talent. So I'm curious about your

1:05:11 Speaker 1: process and who you collaborate with, or maybe you do

1:05:14 Speaker 1: it all your own. I don't know, but I'm really

1:05:16 Speaker 1: interested in that.

1:05:18 Speaker 9: Yeah, I write all of my own songs that are

1:05:21 Speaker 9: currently out. I've some of them have co writers on them,

1:05:26 Speaker 9: so people that I worked with, but a few of

1:05:30 Speaker 9: them were fully just written by me. Start to finish,

1:05:33 Speaker 9: and then I have a recording studio in town. There's

1:05:38 Speaker 9: two producers there that I work with, and I bring

1:05:41 Speaker 9: them my songs, play it for them and see what

1:05:44 Speaker 9: they think, and then they help me bring it to

1:05:46 Speaker 9: life and make it what it ends up being. And

1:05:49 Speaker 9: we do everything in house. It's all real instruments, like

1:05:53 Speaker 9: we play. It's the two guys and then myself. I

1:05:56 Speaker 9: play a few instruments, and so we between the three

1:05:59 Speaker 9: of us can play every instrument that we need for

1:06:02 Speaker 9: the track. We record it live and have real instruments,

1:06:06 Speaker 9: real players, everything, and then they mix and master it

1:06:10 Speaker 9: for me. And that's kind of been our process for

1:06:13 Speaker 9: a while. However, I have a single coming out in August,

1:06:17 Speaker 9: and it's the first time I'm releasing a song that

1:06:20 Speaker 9: I had no part in writing. I took a cut

1:06:24 Speaker 9: from some friends that I have that are professional songwriters,

1:06:28 Speaker 9: and I kind of started to explore this idea of

1:06:32 Speaker 9: I don't have to do everything myself. I can just

1:06:35 Speaker 9: be the artist or just be the performer. And there

1:06:38 Speaker 9: are many talented songwriters here, obviously, and that's what people

1:06:43 Speaker 9: in the real industry do. These huge famous people are

1:06:47 Speaker 9: not writing their songs themselves. They have ten fifteen people

1:06:51 Speaker 9: helping them write songs, or they don't even write them

1:06:54 Speaker 9: at all, and they get these cuts from very talented songwriters.

1:06:58 Speaker 9: So I tried that out and I really liked how

1:07:01 Speaker 9: the song turned out. So my next single is fully

1:07:05 Speaker 9: just written by other people.

1:07:07 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting? Was it hard to take that step? I mean,

1:07:11 Speaker 1: was that something did you? Did you go into that

1:07:15 Speaker 1: saying no, maybe I will try this and see what happens.

1:07:18 Speaker 1: Or was it more like, like, did you have to

1:07:20 Speaker 1: be kind of coaxed into it? Because that's got to

1:07:22 Speaker 1: be because that's a big shift, right because, like you said,

1:07:24 Speaker 1: you were used to doing everything yourself, which gives you

1:07:27 Speaker 1: a lot of autonomy and control over your material, and

1:07:30 Speaker 1: to take that step and do something that someone else wrote,

1:07:33 Speaker 1: was that difficult? Or did it? Did it come naturally

1:07:36 Speaker 1: or what was that like?

1:07:37 Speaker 9: I think it really came naturally. It was my idea.

1:07:40 Speaker 9: I kind of put feelers out and let people in

1:07:43 Speaker 9: the industry know, hey, I'm open to cuts. If you

1:07:47 Speaker 9: have songs that you aren't going to cut or you

1:07:49 Speaker 9: don't have anybody to cut them, send them not my way,

1:07:52 Speaker 9: and I'll listen to them and if they fit my vibe,

1:07:56 Speaker 9: my overall kind of genre that I'm building for my

1:08:01 Speaker 9: and I took them to my producers too, and we

1:08:04 Speaker 9: kind of listened to them together because they know my style,

1:08:07 Speaker 9: and we decided which ones fit me, which ones didn't

1:08:10 Speaker 9: fit me, and then narrowed it down to the song

1:08:13 Speaker 9: that's gonna come out. And I honestly think it wasn't

1:08:17 Speaker 9: that difficult because I grew up my whole life obviously

1:08:20 Speaker 9: doing theater, and I was in lots of cover bands

1:08:24 Speaker 9: and things like that, so I grew up singing other

1:08:25 Speaker 9: people's songs my whole life. It really wasn't that different.

1:08:30 Speaker 9: And if it's a good song at the end of

1:08:32 Speaker 9: the day, I think that's all that matters. And yeah,

1:08:36 Speaker 9: it wasn't. It really wasn't a hard process.

1:08:39 Speaker 21: It was.

1:08:39 Speaker 9: It kind of made it more enjoyable because I wasn't

1:08:42 Speaker 9: scrutinizing it as much as if it were my own songwriting.

1:08:46 Speaker 9: I'm much more like, oh does this sound stupid? I

1:08:49 Speaker 9: wrote this, these words are probably dumb, But since somebody

1:08:52 Speaker 9: else wrote it and I very much enjoyed their songwriting already,

1:08:56 Speaker 9: I just sang it and liked it from the start.

1:09:00 Speaker 1: That makes sense. So it sounds like it was kind

1:09:01 Speaker 1: of liberating in a way. Yeah, yeah, well that's very cool.

1:09:06 Speaker 1: You mentioned too, So I noticed you went out of

1:09:08 Speaker 1: your way to put extra emphasis on talking about how

1:09:11 Speaker 1: everything that you do it's played by real people, real musicians.

1:09:16 Speaker 1: And it makes me curious because one of the things

1:09:19 Speaker 1: that we talk about on the show a lot, because

1:09:21 Speaker 1: we have a lot of sort of industry centric shall

1:09:23 Speaker 1: we say, uh, conversations on the show, is we talk

1:09:27 Speaker 1: a lot about AI, the use of AI and music

1:09:30 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And I'm curious. I suspect based on what

1:09:34 Speaker 1: you've said that this might be something that you're concerned about,

1:09:39 Speaker 1: So I'd like to get your thoughts on that, or

1:09:42 Speaker 1: maybe there's another dimension to it. But I'm really interested because,

1:09:44 Speaker 1: like I said, you went out of your way to

1:09:47 Speaker 1: tell us you know, this is all real, so obviously

1:09:50 Speaker 1: there's no none of these parts were created by AI

1:09:53 Speaker 1: and any of your songs. So I'm curious if you

1:09:55 Speaker 1: have if you have further thoughts on that that you

1:09:57 Speaker 1: like to share.

1:09:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's because my kind of stance on that started

1:10:03 Speaker 9: even before AI kind of joined the picture. I was

1:10:08 Speaker 9: always looking for what my niche was in the industry,

1:10:12 Speaker 9: Like I think everybody has their thing that makes them

1:10:16 Speaker 9: unique and their genre or it's their sound or this,

1:10:20 Speaker 9: that and the other. And I realized that I think

1:10:23 Speaker 9: what makes me unique is that our music is very commercial.

1:10:28 Speaker 9: It's very commercially successful, but it's all real. And in

1:10:35 Speaker 9: today's day, most music is not real. It's all done digitally,

1:10:40 Speaker 9: or it can be done digitally. And I went to

1:10:44 Speaker 9: college here and there were so many people at my

1:10:47 Speaker 9: school who made full songs in their dorm rooms on

1:10:50 Speaker 9: their laptop and you would never know that they, you know,

1:10:54 Speaker 9: did it by themselves at midnight, just on their computer.

1:10:58 Speaker 9: And I wanted something that made us stand out. And

1:11:02 Speaker 9: I realized, like, hey, we play all of this for real,

1:11:05 Speaker 9: and I don't think a lot of people do that,

1:11:07 Speaker 9: and I think that's something we should emphasize and tell

1:11:10 Speaker 9: people is like this is real. Like this there's someone

1:11:13 Speaker 9: sitting there actually playing the drums. Every single beat that

1:11:16 Speaker 9: you hear. He played it, and that's impressive. And I

1:11:20 Speaker 9: went to school with so many talented musicians, and I

1:11:23 Speaker 9: was starting to realize these people like won't be needed

1:11:26 Speaker 9: if we continue down this path. And I think there's

1:11:30 Speaker 9: something special about someone actually playing it, and especially live.

1:11:36 Speaker 9: You can't have a live show if someone's not actually

1:11:38 Speaker 9: playing the instrument, you know. And now it's turned to

1:11:43 Speaker 9: AI and it is insane what they can do and make,

1:11:49 Speaker 9: you know, a whole song or parts of a song.

1:11:52 Speaker 9: So yeah, that's kind of become my shtick and my

1:11:55 Speaker 9: Niche is saying like, hey, this is real, so just

1:11:59 Speaker 9: keep that and consideration when you're listening to it, Like

1:12:02 Speaker 9: some guy sat down and played every note on that

1:12:04 Speaker 9: guitar that you're hearing. So I think that deserves some

1:12:08 Speaker 9: it deserves to be shouted out and you know, yeah,

1:12:12 Speaker 9: get the credit.

1:12:13 Speaker 1: And so even the drums are live.

1:12:16 Speaker 9: The drums are live, the bass, the guitar, everything. We

1:12:20 Speaker 9: usually stack it from the bottom, so he'll will record

1:12:24 Speaker 9: the drums first and he does that fully with no

1:12:28 Speaker 9: other instruments, like he sits down and will play the

1:12:30 Speaker 9: entire song from start to finish, just on the drums

1:12:34 Speaker 9: and with a really crappy demo that we made, and

1:12:37 Speaker 9: he can pull out an entire song on the drums

1:12:41 Speaker 9: and then we build it from the bottom up. So

1:12:43 Speaker 9: bass guitar.

1:12:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's great, and that's you know, that's how

1:12:47 Speaker 1: it used to always be done. Although the reason I

1:12:50 Speaker 1: asked Sid about the drums specifically is because I've been

1:12:53 Speaker 1: surprised at various points when you know, even even stuff

1:12:57 Speaker 1: that was recorded in the eighties that I assumed, you know,

1:13:01 Speaker 1: just you know, hard rock songs that you know, a

1:13:05 Speaker 1: little research and I learned that, you know, this was

1:13:08 Speaker 1: pre AI, but obviously this was you know, we're talking

1:13:11 Speaker 1: about eighties even early nineties rock where it's like, oh no,

1:13:15 Speaker 1: they actually did that with a with a drum machine.

1:13:18 Speaker 1: Those weren't real drums, and it's like, wow, that's uh,

1:13:22 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of impressive in a way that

1:13:23 Speaker 1: they were able to create something so real. But at

1:13:26 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like sometimes it's sometimes if you

1:13:29 Speaker 1: do a little digging, you'll be really surprised at how

1:13:32 Speaker 1: much was was not real drums. Yeah, and of course

1:13:35 Speaker 1: now you can do that with everything. Yeah, yeah, it is.

1:13:39 Speaker 9: I think it is insane. You know, you would assume

1:13:42 Speaker 9: those things were all real, But yeah, drum machines were

1:13:44 Speaker 9: huge in the eighties. So a lot of those songs

1:13:47 Speaker 9: are just programmed and we play everything live maybe here

1:13:51 Speaker 9: and there they'll get he well, actually, I mean we

1:13:54 Speaker 9: use samples, but they're samples that they'll make themselves. So yeah,

1:13:57 Speaker 9: if a tom that he hit during the track wasn't

1:14:01 Speaker 9: strong enough, he'll go hit the tom one time, take

1:14:04 Speaker 9: that recording and put it right over the one that

1:14:07 Speaker 9: maybe he flubbed a little bit, so it's still him

1:14:10 Speaker 9: playing it. But oh yeah, yeah, that's how you like

1:14:13 Speaker 9: have to really fix stuff if it's real, you know.

1:14:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta do overdubs. I mean there's

1:14:18 Speaker 1: no get there's no getting it. Yeah, absolutely, but that's

1:14:22 Speaker 1: just that's just part of the process. Has it been

1:14:25 Speaker 1: so has it been done that way with every all

1:14:27 Speaker 1: of the singles that you've released, it's all been done

1:14:29 Speaker 1: done that same way.

1:14:31 Speaker 9: Yes, everything I have out is real.

1:14:35 Speaker 1: That's great.

1:14:36 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of we It kind of started that

1:14:40 Speaker 9: way on accident, and then I started telling people, Hey,

1:14:44 Speaker 9: this song is real, and then we were like, well,

1:14:46 Speaker 9: if we're going to keep putting out songs, maybe we

1:14:48 Speaker 9: should do them all like that and that way they

1:14:50 Speaker 9: kind of have a cohesive sound. But then also we

1:14:53 Speaker 9: can continue to tell people and showcase like this is real,

1:14:57 Speaker 9: Like these are real people that are have years of

1:15:00 Speaker 9: training and talent that they can showcase.

1:15:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, no, I think that's great. And then what's

1:15:06 Speaker 1: the live situation? Like are you playing these songs out?

1:15:08 Speaker 1: Do you play out a lot? Obviously there's a lot

1:15:11 Speaker 1: of I know, there's a lot of places to play

1:15:13 Speaker 1: in Nashville, but it's also probably pretty crowded in some ways.

1:15:16 Speaker 1: But what's that like as far as the live scene

1:15:19 Speaker 1: and do you get out and tour or how are

1:15:22 Speaker 1: you doing with that?

1:15:23 Speaker 9: I this is my third summer that I am playing.

1:15:28 Speaker 9: I primarily play in the summers just because winter kind

1:15:32 Speaker 9: of slows down a little bit and I use that

1:15:36 Speaker 9: time more so for recording and writing and getting stuff

1:15:39 Speaker 9: ready to release and Whatnotah. And like I said, I'm

1:15:44 Speaker 9: from Columbus, Ohio. All of my family still lives there,

1:15:48 Speaker 9: Like every single family member lives there. All of my

1:15:52 Speaker 9: old friends from high school and before all still live there,

1:15:55 Speaker 9: so I visit there very frequently. I've built a good

1:16:01 Speaker 9: community of people and kind of a following back there,

1:16:05 Speaker 9: and so I go back there very very frequently and

1:16:09 Speaker 9: play festivals and fairs in the surrounding area. Just because

1:16:13 Speaker 9: I've created a good community and I have lots of

1:16:17 Speaker 9: good contacts back there, that it's easier or it's gotten

1:16:20 Speaker 9: easier for me to get my foot in the door

1:16:22 Speaker 9: there rather than here. So yes, I play all my

1:16:26 Speaker 9: songs there and it's so much fun. I have a

1:16:30 Speaker 9: band that lives in Columbus, so I just go there

1:16:34 Speaker 9: and they're ready for me. They practice on their own

1:16:36 Speaker 9: and we kind of just show up and rip it,

1:16:39 Speaker 9: and then I head back to Nashville and work on

1:16:41 Speaker 9: stuff and then go back there. I definitely love to

1:16:47 Speaker 9: expand get out of just playing in Ohio. I've played

1:16:50 Speaker 9: in Nashville a handful of times, but it's really not

1:16:54 Speaker 9: that fun because it's so saturated. It's just not the

1:16:58 Speaker 9: same energy as going to Columbus, and the people there

1:17:02 Speaker 9: are like, oh my gosh, this is incredible music, like

1:17:06 Speaker 9: thank you so much for playing for us, or this

1:17:08 Speaker 9: is people actually stand up and are singing along and

1:17:12 Speaker 9: these people have no idea who I am, but they'll

1:17:14 Speaker 9: really get into it. So trying to expand, but it's

1:17:19 Speaker 9: one step at a time.

1:17:21 Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's really cool. That's really cool. Have you

1:17:23 Speaker 1: done any videos for these songs?

1:17:26 Speaker 9: I have one video out? Actually, I have a couple out.

1:17:32 Speaker 9: I love making videos. I love every once in a while,

1:17:35 Speaker 9: I vlog like our shows that we go to. So

1:17:38 Speaker 9: when we play at festivals and whatnot, I'll bring a

1:17:41 Speaker 9: camera or a guy that will come in video kind

1:17:44 Speaker 9: of the whole process because it's just fun to have

1:17:47 Speaker 9: for memories. But then it also turns into like a

1:17:50 Speaker 9: fun little video for people to see what we do

1:17:53 Speaker 9: and what it's like to go play. And honestly, I

1:17:58 Speaker 9: started reaching out to radio stations because it seemed like

1:18:02 Speaker 9: a good way for me to kind of talk to

1:18:06 Speaker 9: people that weren't in Tennessee or Ohio. It is a

1:18:09 Speaker 9: way for me to kind of get myself started in

1:18:14 Speaker 9: new places.

1:18:16 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely so. Now what's the uh so

1:18:21 Speaker 1: the single Greedy Now that's been out a couple months.

1:18:24 Speaker 9: Yeah, it came out in April.

1:18:26 Speaker 1: Okay, now you're working on the next one already? Or

1:18:28 Speaker 1: are you are you focusing on uh more on other

1:18:32 Speaker 1: things or what's like, what what's the current uh trajectory?

1:18:36 Speaker 1: Because you did mention that other one.

1:18:37 Speaker 9: That Yes, yeah, I have a song. It's called su

1:18:44 Speaker 9: Venirs and it comes out August first, and that's the

1:18:47 Speaker 9: one that was not written by me. We're just kind

1:18:50 Speaker 9: of trying something new out.

1:18:51 Speaker 1: Okay, is that that one's all all recorded and ready

1:18:54 Speaker 1: coming out?

1:18:55 Speaker 9: It's done. Yeah, it's up, it's uploaded, so it's kind

1:19:00 Speaker 9: of just sitting there waiting to come out. So yeah,

1:19:05 Speaker 9: that'll be the next one, and we're starting. Actually, funny enough,

1:19:09 Speaker 9: we took a pause on making my music and we

1:19:13 Speaker 9: really want to do like a fun Christmas song in

1:19:17 Speaker 9: obviously like November December, but you have to start them

1:19:21 Speaker 9: so early, so we're starting a Christmas song next week.

1:19:26 Speaker 9: So we kind of took a pause. This other song

1:19:28 Speaker 9: will come out, and while that one is being processed

1:19:31 Speaker 9: and coming out, we're working on a Christmas song to

1:19:34 Speaker 9: do later and then we'll get back to the normal stuff.

1:19:37 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, But Souvenirs August first, you said.

1:19:41 Speaker 42: Right, August first, Yes, very cool, excellent, excellent, Yeah, be

1:19:46 Speaker 42: sure to be sure to sound that to us too,

1:19:48 Speaker 42: you know, we'll spin it here. Absolutely definitely, I will

1:19:52 Speaker 42: absolutely absolutely Now, where should people go online to keep

1:19:55 Speaker 42: up with everything that you're doing.

1:19:56 Speaker 1: Where's the best place to go?

1:19:59 Speaker 9: Yeah, I I would say probably Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all

1:20:03 Speaker 9: those places I post every day. Yeah, my name's the

1:20:07 Speaker 9: Cammi Knicks T A G, C, A, M I N

1:20:10 Speaker 9: y X. And then I also have a website, the

1:20:15 Speaker 9: Kammiinex dot com. Yes, and yeah, I post everything kind

1:20:19 Speaker 9: of all over those places, just what I'm doing and

1:20:23 Speaker 9: where I'm playing and what's coming out and yeah, very good,

1:20:26 Speaker 9: very good.

1:20:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. I encourage everyone to follow you, keep track of

1:20:29 Speaker 1: what you're doing as you're releasing new music. And I

1:20:32 Speaker 1: was thinking, so we'll let you go in a moment, Cammy,

1:20:34 Speaker 1: But I was thinking about ending the segment. You know,

1:20:36 Speaker 1: we played ready to Open Up. I was thinking about

1:20:38 Speaker 1: ending with this track good Things, which is also very catchy.

1:20:42 Speaker 1: I really like this a lot. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely so,

1:20:44 Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, we'll close out the segment with this,

1:20:47 Speaker 1: but yeah, thank you so much for joining us today.

1:20:49 Speaker 1: Are you in Nashville right now? Is that where you're

1:20:51 Speaker 1: joining us from?

1:20:53 Speaker 9: Yes, I'm calling in from Nashville. I'll be here for

1:20:56 Speaker 9: I think two more weeks and then I have a

1:20:58 Speaker 9: show the third week of July back in Ohio, so

1:21:01 Speaker 9: I'll be heading out there, yeah, and then back back

1:21:06 Speaker 9: to it.

1:21:06 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool. All right, well, Cammy, I

1:21:09 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us today. We'll let you go. I'm

1:21:11 Speaker 1: gonna hit this track, good Things, but Cammy Knicks, thank

1:21:14 Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you so much. You got it.

1:21:17 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Bye bye bye. All right,

1:21:21 Speaker 1: very good. That was Cammy Knicks. And if you're wondering

1:21:23 Speaker 1: how to spell her last name, it's n y X.

1:21:26 Speaker 1: And let's give this a spin. This is called good Things,

1:21:29 Speaker 1: another great track from Cammy Knicks.

1:21:37 Speaker 43: How do I put it? Tried but I couldn't once

1:21:44 Speaker 43: was the answer. Oh he's a stranger, lef with a.

1:21:51 Speaker 5: Thatt go.

1:21:53 Speaker 9: Loved with my eyes closed, kiss like aod.

1:21:58 Speaker 40: Devil, heard temperamental.

1:22:03 Speaker 41: I knew he'd break my heart. Should have loved him

1:22:08 Speaker 41: from the start.

1:22:10 Speaker 25: Is it true?

1:22:11 Speaker 3: All good things for love?

1:22:14 Speaker 20: Pard? Is it good?

1:22:17 Speaker 3: Or is it bad?

1:22:19 Speaker 20: House?

1:22:19 Speaker 41: Never gave inside rama heart made him look easy that.

1:22:25 Speaker 11: You never thought that happy smile and driving turn fine

1:22:32 Speaker 11: Ryan never.

1:22:33 Speaker 3: A crossed my mind.

1:22:35 Speaker 41: Always said that I loved blue, but jealous looks good

1:22:40 Speaker 41: on you.

1:22:42 Speaker 9: That's face is funny. Fools would have judged me.

1:22:49 Speaker 23: Art.

1:22:49 Speaker 9: He was honest, the boy was I'm modest.

1:22:55 Speaker 5: Art.

1:22:55 Speaker 3: It was true love.

1:22:58 Speaker 9: What the hell's true?

1:23:00 Speaker 3: A boy full of secrets?

1:23:04 Speaker 9: EPI said I would keep them.

1:23:08 Speaker 11: I knew it's pregnant. Should have funded from the start.

1:23:14 Speaker 11: Now I know that's good. Next, is that good that

1:23:22 Speaker 11: I must snap in? How far they look?

1:23:28 Speaker 14: Easy?

1:23:29 Speaker 5: That jo but.

1:23:31 Speaker 20: It's silence trying to do it cross not fine.

1:23:38 Speaker 11: Always said that on a blue jasay, let's get on you.

1:23:57 Speaker 3: Go, don't stuck the shot back And now seems so.

1:24:01 Speaker 20: Calm and Cris.

1:24:06 Speaker 3: Never even blinks.

1:24:11 Speaker 32: Is it good?

1:24:12 Speaker 3: Or is it that you I ever had? Don't know

1:24:19 Speaker 3: who I even know?

1:24:21 Speaker 43: Only go so don man, I'm kidding?

1:24:28 Speaker 32: Is that good?

1:24:29 Speaker 11: Is it that I must not bury inside? Don't mam

1:24:35 Speaker 11: on b busy that's not because hatim driving to him,

1:24:43 Speaker 11: lie across a line, always standing.

1:24:48 Speaker 21: On of you.

1:24:50 Speaker 20: Just let go on you.

1:25:11 Speaker 1: I like that bass note at the end there That

1:25:14 Speaker 1: is Cammy Nicks. That track is called good Things. And

1:25:17 Speaker 1: earlier we played Greedy, her newest single, and then we

1:25:20 Speaker 1: talked with Cammy joining us from Nashville. That was very cool.

1:25:25 Speaker 1: So look forward to keeping up with everything that she's doing.

1:25:27 Speaker 1: Souvenirs coming out August first, and we might get to

1:25:31 Speaker 1: give that a world radio premiere. You know, we like

1:25:33 Speaker 1: those absolutely, I do absolutely, so welcome everybody, of course

1:25:37 Speaker 1: if you are joining us alive on Saturday morning. It

1:25:40 Speaker 1: is July fifth, twenty twenty five. Matt Connorton Unleashed and

1:25:45 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about this an interesting story

1:25:52 Speaker 1: that took me by surprise. So there's Lord who's she's

1:25:57 Speaker 1: been around for a while, I think, right, yes, she's

1:26:00 Speaker 1: got a new CD. And this is from the Verge

1:26:03 Speaker 1: dot com. So you know, sometimes when releasing physical media,

1:26:08 Speaker 1: people like to come up with cool gimmicks, you know,

1:26:11 Speaker 1: like back in the days of when Vinyl was was well.

1:26:16 Speaker 1: Of course vinyl has had such a resurgence over the

1:26:18 Speaker 1: past decade, but you know, sometimes with Vinyl people tried

1:26:21 Speaker 1: to do cool stuff, release limited edition Vinyl. I remember

1:26:27 Speaker 1: I still recall when Dan of Dan Randall and the Randlettes,

1:26:31 Speaker 1: some people will know when he showed me he had

1:26:34 Speaker 1: bought the the Kiss single for Unholy that came out

1:26:39 Speaker 1: in ninety two and it was they put it out

1:26:41 Speaker 1: on limited edition white vinyl. It was so cool.

1:26:44 Speaker 44: Anyway, My favorite was a Stix album that I think

1:26:48 Speaker 44: it was Paradise Theater that actually had the theater in

1:26:52 Speaker 44: the album like the visual. Yeah, you had to hold

1:26:55 Speaker 44: the album a certain way to see the yeah, to

1:26:58 Speaker 44: see it. But yeah, I mean I was stuff like that.

1:27:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Pick picture discs they call them, yeah, and those

1:27:03 Speaker 1: are cool. And you know, some artists have tried to

1:27:06 Speaker 1: do things unique and innovative with CDs as well, not

1:27:11 Speaker 1: just vinyl. And Lord's new CD is transparent. You can

1:27:17 Speaker 1: see through it. And if you don't know what I'm

1:27:19 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, you can always go go find

1:27:22 Speaker 1: a picture of it online. It's interesting. It's it's completely clear.

1:27:25 Speaker 1: You can see right through it. What a cool idea, right, Yeah. Actually,

1:27:29 Speaker 1: well there's only one problem, and this is from the

1:27:33 Speaker 1: Verge dot com. Lord's new CD is so transparent that

1:27:36 Speaker 1: stereos can't even read it.

1:27:39 Speaker 35: Oh god, that's so terrible.

1:27:41 Speaker 1: And there's only one version and it doesn't work on

1:27:44 Speaker 1: most players. So this is from the Verge. It says

1:27:48 Speaker 1: Lord fans are clearly struggling to play the CD version

1:27:50 Speaker 1: of her new album. Consumers who purchase the special edition

1:27:53 Speaker 1: of Virgin released on a transparent plastic disc or reporting

1:28:00 Speaker 1: Reddit and TikTok that many CD players car serios and

1:28:03 Speaker 1: other sound systems they've tried to play it on are

1:28:06 Speaker 1: unable to play it. The transparent CD promoted it as

1:28:12 Speaker 1: being fully recyclable, is currently sold out on Lord's web store,

1:28:18 Speaker 1: and was the only disc variant available for the Virgin album. So,

1:28:21 Speaker 1: in other words, if you don't want the clear CD,

1:28:23 Speaker 1: if you want something you can actually play, you can't

1:28:26 Speaker 1: even get it. Nope. So that may have come as

1:28:29 Speaker 1: a that may have been a welcome compromise for fans,

1:28:31 Speaker 1: given the singer opted to forego a CD release entirely

1:28:34 Speaker 1: for her twenty twenty one album, Solar Power over waste

1:28:38 Speaker 1: and environmental concerns, but little comfort to customers who can't

1:28:41 Speaker 1: purchase alternative options. One Reddit user said, quote very cool

1:28:46 Speaker 1: looking and I'm not going to return it, but doesn't

1:28:49 Speaker 1: work in three of my top players. PC was able

1:28:53 Speaker 1: to rip, but the files are not great. There's distortion

1:28:57 Speaker 1: and clipping. User unquote. User report it's indicate that older

1:29:01 Speaker 1: hardware is less likely to work with the CDD than

1:29:04 Speaker 1: devices with newer sensors. So you know, we should just

1:29:07 Speaker 1: stress that so people know. It's not that it doesn't

1:29:10 Speaker 1: play at all. You just have to have a new,

1:29:14 Speaker 1: a very new CD player apparently that is able to

1:29:17 Speaker 1: actually read the data on it, because as one person

1:29:22 Speaker 1: pointed out, and this isn't from the article I saw

1:29:25 Speaker 1: this on. Uh, I saw this on another post. Somebody said, Hey,

1:29:30 Speaker 1: you know it's completely clearer. There's no silver coding, but

1:29:34 Speaker 1: isn't the silver where the data is stored.

1:29:37 Speaker 35: God, that's true.

1:29:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So apparently it's so so if

1:29:43 Speaker 1: you have a newer CD player you can play it,

1:29:46 Speaker 1: but older ones car serios won't play it. Uh, it's

1:29:51 Speaker 1: it's you're just sol it says here. One TikTok user

1:29:54 Speaker 1: demonstrated that her car CD player was an unable to

1:29:57 Speaker 1: recognize the disc and said that for seeing the CD

1:30:00 Speaker 1: inside resulted in automatic ejection, mirroring similar reports made in

1:30:06 Speaker 1: Reddit comments. Uh this redditor said, quote, whoever decided to

1:30:11 Speaker 1: design this as an idiot? Cars can't read the CD.

1:30:14 Speaker 1: Walkman's can't read the CD. You need to create CDs

1:30:17 Speaker 1: that are fit for purpose of for the medium in

1:30:21 Speaker 1: which they are played on, which is older technology. Unquote, no, you.

1:30:26 Speaker 44: Should update your technology. But that's your it's your fault.

1:30:29 Speaker 44: You didn't update your technology. You're the greatness of the desk.

1:30:33 Speaker 1: If you're a true Lord fan, you know this reminds

1:30:37 Speaker 1: me of a there's a podcaster or who we know

1:30:40 Speaker 1: who always complains about people not listening to his podcast

1:30:43 Speaker 1: on good quality equipment and expects everyone to upgrade their

1:30:47 Speaker 1: equipment when they listened to his amazing yes yes, how

1:30:53 Speaker 1: he how he knows how people are consuming his content.

1:30:57 Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1:30:58 Speaker 44: But what I don't get is, like, didn't they test

1:31:02 Speaker 44: it out on They must have, like only played it

1:31:05 Speaker 44: on the very best.

1:31:06 Speaker 1: That must That must be what happened.

1:31:07 Speaker 35: Yeah, nobody bothered to go, hey, let me go see

1:31:09 Speaker 35: if this will work in my car.

1:31:11 Speaker 1: That that's probably what happened, it says here. Lord has

1:31:14 Speaker 1: yet to address any of the issues raised about the

1:31:16 Speaker 1: transparent Virgin CD. The official came uh. The official cause

1:31:21 Speaker 1: of the playability issues also has not been confirmed. It's

1:31:25 Speaker 1: certainly striking. It's certainly a striking disc. CDs with even

1:31:29 Speaker 1: partially clear designs are uncommon UH and can be a

1:31:33 Speaker 1: hit with collectors. But the lack of functionality in this

1:31:35 Speaker 1: example has been a bitter experience for some Lord fans.

1:31:40 Speaker 35: Yeah, I can imagine I got a pretty disc.

1:31:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't play it.

1:31:45 Speaker 1: One TikTok user said, quote, seems like they didn't account

1:31:48 Speaker 1: for this pretty disappointing. I know it was for an aesthetic,

1:31:52 Speaker 1: but at least press it on normal CDs too. Unquote. Yeah,

1:31:55 Speaker 1: that's the other weird thing. It's like, why wouldn't you

1:31:58 Speaker 1: also put out out a non clear.

1:32:03 Speaker 35: Edition because they thought that it was going to play

1:32:05 Speaker 35: and everything.

1:32:06 Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if they thought that people might

1:32:12 Speaker 1: this is Wow. There's a picture here in this article

1:32:16 Speaker 1: two of the disc of someone holding up the disc

1:32:18 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's very clear. Yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical,

1:32:21 Speaker 1: Like if someone handed that to me and said, here,

1:32:23 Speaker 1: play this, I'd be like, uh, what is this? Is

1:32:26 Speaker 1: this actually a CD? What are you giving me here? Yeah?

1:32:29 Speaker 44: It looks kind of it doesn't You're right, it doesn't

1:32:32 Speaker 44: look like any disc that you've seen before. Yeah, but

1:32:36 Speaker 44: it's cute and it's quirky, and if it had played

1:32:39 Speaker 44: on everything, it would have been great, And that's probably

1:32:41 Speaker 44: why they didn't print regular ones. But then maybe they

1:32:44 Speaker 44: should go back and do that now and like offer people,

1:32:48 Speaker 44: you know, hey, you bought this disc it's great, but

1:32:50 Speaker 44: here's one you can actually listen to, right.

1:32:52 Speaker 35: Like that would be great to do for fans. Yeah,

1:32:55 Speaker 35: that would make it better.

1:32:56 Speaker 44: Yeah, but to spend the money to buy the thing

1:32:58 Speaker 44: and you can't play the music that it's not just

1:33:01 Speaker 44: about aesthetics.

1:33:02 Speaker 35: I mean, you want to hear U's on it.

1:33:04 Speaker 1: Unless they also made the calculation, it's possible that someone

1:33:08 Speaker 1: made the calculation that people weren't going to buy this

1:33:11 Speaker 1: discs to play it, but people are going to buy

1:33:13 Speaker 1: this disc just to have it.

1:33:15 Speaker 35: I think that's silly.

1:33:16 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The only reason I think someone

1:33:18 Speaker 1: might have thought that is because, you know my theory

1:33:21 Speaker 1: about vinyl. I've said it all the time that when

1:33:24 Speaker 1: artists release new vinyl, you know, because some of the

1:33:26 Speaker 1: guests that we've had on the show, for example, they'll

1:33:28 Speaker 1: they'll do vinyl, And I always say that. My theory

1:33:33 Speaker 1: is most people who buy new vinyl don't even have

1:33:36 Speaker 1: a record player. They just buy it because they want

1:33:40 Speaker 1: to have it, Like, they never even necessarily open it.

1:33:42 Speaker 1: They just want to really support that artist, so they'll

1:33:45 Speaker 1: buy it just to you know, maybe put the artwork

1:33:48 Speaker 1: on the wall or something, or just just to have

1:33:50 Speaker 1: it because they want to support that artist, not because

1:33:52 Speaker 1: they actually have a record player at home that they're

1:33:54 Speaker 1: going to play it on. You know what I mean.

1:33:56 Speaker 35: I do know what you mean, But I honestly think

1:33:59 Speaker 35: in this instance, it's just not the equivalency.

1:34:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just wondering if someone

1:34:05 Speaker 1: maybe had that theory though, Like, maybe somebody had a

1:34:07 Speaker 1: theory to my theory about Vioylin they thought it would

1:34:09 Speaker 1: have Even if.

1:34:09 Speaker 35: That was the theory, why would you print only discs

1:34:12 Speaker 35: that you can't listen to? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

1:34:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's pretty strange, and apparently it's not

1:34:19 Speaker 1: being addressed. I guess it just came out because this

1:34:22 Speaker 1: story just broke a couple of days ago.

1:34:24 Speaker 35: I'm sure that she anticipated that the disc was going

1:34:27 Speaker 35: to work.

1:34:28 Speaker 44: You know, I highly doubt that it was sold to

1:34:30 Speaker 44: her as Hey, we want to print millions of your desk,

1:34:33 Speaker 44: but we don't want them to be able to necessarily.

1:34:35 Speaker 35: Play unless you got expensive equipment.

1:34:37 Speaker 45: Yeah yeah, unless you have new equipment, it done work.

1:34:42 Speaker 45: That's right, That's right, and that done not good. So well,

1:34:46 Speaker 45: hopefully everyone learns something from this.

1:34:48 Speaker 44: Yes, do not make the clear unless they find a

1:34:52 Speaker 44: better material to use to make them on that can

1:34:55 Speaker 44: actually be read.

1:34:56 Speaker 35: They kind of need the silver part.

1:34:59 Speaker 1: Yeah like that one, the person wrote, absolutely. So another

1:35:05 Speaker 1: thing that happened recently. Oh and this this will probably

1:35:09 Speaker 1: be a surprise to you because we didn't discuss this,

1:35:11 Speaker 1: but this popped into my head. I wanted to say

1:35:13 Speaker 1: something about this. So long time listeners of the show,

1:35:15 Speaker 1: and of course people who know me personally know that

1:35:18 Speaker 1: uh Kiss is my favorite band of all time. You

1:35:21 Speaker 1: knew that, right, I think Kiss is my ald time.

1:35:26 Speaker 44: Why there's kiss all over your office? That might be

1:35:28 Speaker 44: yes kiss ornament hanging off your light?

1:35:32 Speaker 1: Kiss is my favorite band, uh Kiss. Paul Stanley said

1:35:35 Speaker 1: something recently though, that I found rather shocking, really, and

1:35:40 Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to address it for the

1:35:43 Speaker 1: for the you know a lot of guests that we've

1:35:44 Speaker 1: had on the show too or like Kiss, so you know,

1:35:48 Speaker 1: this subject comes up. But as Paul Stanley said something

1:35:50 Speaker 1: that really surprised me, I was quite taken aback. He

1:35:54 Speaker 1: said in an interview, because he's doing a lot of

1:35:56 Speaker 1: interviews these days, he and Jine Someone's both are now

1:35:59 Speaker 1: that Kisses. You know, they're not touring anymore. They did

1:36:01 Speaker 1: their the End of the Road tour.

1:36:02 Speaker 35: They're doing the Hologram tour.

1:36:04 Speaker 1: They're still doing some stuff that's coming later. They are

1:36:09 Speaker 1: doing a thing and they're doing a big event in

1:36:11 Speaker 1: Las Vegas where they're going to play. So they're you know,

1:36:13 Speaker 1: they're still active, but they're not going to play. They're

1:36:17 Speaker 1: going to have No, that's something that's something else that's

1:36:19 Speaker 1: coming later. No, Kiss actually is playing there. Yeah, so

1:36:23 Speaker 1: they're they're still going to do some things here and there,

1:36:25 Speaker 1: but but just not like a full tour. That was

1:36:27 Speaker 1: the last actual getting on the road, going on tour.

1:36:29 Speaker 1: They're in their seventies now. Oh yeah. Paul Stanley said

1:36:34 Speaker 1: in a recent interview that he feels, in hindsight, because

1:36:39 Speaker 1: he's doing all these interviews talking about, you know, looking

1:36:42 Speaker 1: back on Kiss, he feels that, in hindsight, it was

1:36:44 Speaker 1: a mistake in nineteen eighty three when they took the

1:36:47 Speaker 1: makeup off, because those those four characters that they had

1:36:52 Speaker 1: created are so iconic and and uh and and you know,

1:36:56 Speaker 1: he didn't think that he didn't think that anything that

1:36:58 Speaker 1: they did, could could ever live up to that? And

1:37:01 Speaker 1: so on hindsight he feels that that that might have

1:37:03 Speaker 1: been a mistake. What do you think, Well, I was

1:37:06 Speaker 1: shocked that he said that, because because it was a

1:37:10 Speaker 1: complete one eighty from everything he's ever said on the subject,

1:37:15 Speaker 1: because everything else any other time, in any interview or

1:37:19 Speaker 1: even in his book. He talks about it. In his book,

1:37:21 Speaker 1: he talks about it a lot. The decision to do that,

1:37:24 Speaker 1: the reason they did it at the time was because,

1:37:27 Speaker 1: you know, the makeup on a business level had run

1:37:29 Speaker 1: its course. It had seemed Kiss had gone from being

1:37:32 Speaker 1: one of the biggest bands in the world to having

1:37:34 Speaker 1: a couple of tough years where in the United States,

1:37:37 Speaker 1: you know, they had really kind of fallen down and

1:37:39 Speaker 1: they needed to change. It was time for a drastic

1:37:41 Speaker 1: change in the band. And so it's like Paul the

1:37:45 Speaker 1: way Paul talks about it in his book. For example,

1:37:47 Speaker 1: in his autobiography, he talks about the conversations he had

1:37:50 Speaker 1: about it with Gene because he had to talk Gene

1:37:52 Speaker 1: into it. It was Paul's idea, oh, and he had

1:37:55 Speaker 1: to know that, and he had to talk Gene into it.

1:37:57 Speaker 1: And he said to Gene, he said, we have nowhere

1:38:00 Speaker 1: else to go. We have to do this. Because both

1:38:03 Speaker 1: when they took the makeup off in eighty three and

1:38:05 Speaker 1: when they put it back on in ninety six for

1:38:07 Speaker 1: the reunion tour with the original lineup, in both instances,

1:38:10 Speaker 1: Paul had to talk Gene into it in both In

1:38:13 Speaker 1: both to put the makeup back on. To put the

1:38:15 Speaker 1: makeup back on, he had to talk Gene into it too.

1:38:17 Speaker 1: Both times he had to talk Gene into it. It

1:38:19 Speaker 1: was it was Paul who really wanted to do it,

1:38:22 Speaker 1: and you know, and obviously he did talk Gene into it.

1:38:25 Speaker 1: And the thing is, so Paul felt they couldn't continue

1:38:28 Speaker 1: on at that point in eighty three with the makeup.

1:38:30 Speaker 1: They had to make this change. And Paul was like,

1:38:32 Speaker 1: you know, not only will not only will it kind

1:38:36 Speaker 1: of refresh the band, it's sort of you know, it'll

1:38:40 Speaker 1: also proved to everybody, you know, the haters, the doubters,

1:38:43 Speaker 1: the critics, you know, that were more than just the

1:38:45 Speaker 1: makeup and the flash and all that, and that were

1:38:48 Speaker 1: there were real band of course, of course, so they

1:38:53 Speaker 1: took the biggest scambal of their career. They actually they

1:38:56 Speaker 1: because they were rolling the dice. It was a scary

1:38:59 Speaker 1: time for the band, and and Paul talked about that

1:39:01 Speaker 1: a lot in his book. Two was a scary time

1:39:03 Speaker 1: because this was a big risk, a big gamble, you know,

1:39:06 Speaker 1: and they did the unmasking on MTV and whatnot. Turn

1:39:09 Speaker 1: turned out. And this is part of why it's so

1:39:11 Speaker 1: shocking to me that Paul said this recently turned out

1:39:14 Speaker 1: it was the right call because it did it. It

1:39:17 Speaker 1: brought them back. You know, they they'd had a couple

1:39:21 Speaker 1: of tough years, but they they take the makeup off

1:39:24 Speaker 1: and that first single, no Makeup, Lick it up ended

1:39:27 Speaker 1: up being a big hit, and they're back. You know,

1:39:30 Speaker 1: they're on MTV now and the songs on the radio

1:39:33 Speaker 1: and Lick It Up goes platinum, and you know, so

1:39:37 Speaker 1: it really brought them back. Now. Granted, during that non

1:39:40 Speaker 1: makeup era of the band, they were never as big

1:39:43 Speaker 1: as they were during that original makeup era where they

1:39:46 Speaker 1: were one of the biggest bands in the world. Yeah,

1:39:48 Speaker 1: but they were still doing really well. That was a

1:39:50 Speaker 1: successful period that all those albums went platinum. You know,

1:39:54 Speaker 1: they were still able to do the arena tours, the

1:39:57 Speaker 1: big arena tours. They they didn't have to scale down

1:39:59 Speaker 1: and play club or anything like that. So this is

1:40:01 Speaker 1: a pretty successful period and so but they had to

1:40:06 Speaker 1: do it, like they had to take that risk.

1:40:08 Speaker 35: Did he qualify his statement as to why he thinks

1:40:10 Speaker 35: it's a mistake.

1:40:11 Speaker 1: Now, he just said he said that, you know, looking

1:40:14 Speaker 1: back on it, he thinks that, you know, they should

1:40:16 Speaker 1: have maybe it would have been smarter to stick with

1:40:18 Speaker 1: that iconic image that they had created and not tamper

1:40:22 Speaker 1: with that. But he's never said that before, and I

1:40:25 Speaker 1: was just so shocked because he's always maintained up until

1:40:29 Speaker 1: recently that it was the right decision because that's what

1:40:33 Speaker 1: they had to do to save the band, and it worked,

1:40:36 Speaker 1: It did save the band, and so it's so I

1:40:39 Speaker 1: was so shocked when I saw that when he says,

1:40:41 Speaker 1: you know, in hindsight, I think it was a mistake.

1:40:43 Speaker 1: It was like really interesting, very shocked.

1:40:46 Speaker 44: Did you get older you change your perspectives on how

1:40:48 Speaker 44: you see things. I mean, yeah, I can look back

1:40:50 Speaker 44: on my youth and go, oh god, you are so ignorant, but.

1:40:54 Speaker 1: There's no window.

1:40:55 Speaker 44: But yeah, we all make decisions. But it's you know,

1:40:58 Speaker 44: it is interesting because I mean, like you said, it

1:41:01 Speaker 44: kept them, it kept them viable. It kept them making money. Yeah,

1:41:05 Speaker 44: it gave them the whole new downsize already, like.

1:41:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gave them a whole new you know, I

1:41:09 Speaker 1: gave them a big boost, you know.

1:41:11 Speaker 35: Yeah, so that is interesting.

1:41:14 Speaker 31: Yeah.

1:41:14 Speaker 14: Yeah.

1:41:17 Speaker 1: And then and also too, if they had if they

1:41:19 Speaker 1: had never taken the makeup off the reunion in ninety six,

1:41:25 Speaker 1: when they put the original lineup back together and put

1:41:28 Speaker 1: the makeup back on, that wouldn't have meant nearly as much,

1:41:31 Speaker 1: you know, Yes.

1:41:32 Speaker 35: I agree, So I agree.

1:41:35 Speaker 44: It would have been like, yeah, whatever, okay, well no,

1:41:38 Speaker 44: I mean, it would have been the original lineup, so

1:41:40 Speaker 44: there's definitely something to say there. It still would have

1:41:42 Speaker 44: been a little bit It wouldn't have been as dramatic

1:41:45 Speaker 44: putting the makeup back on, right, right, except for what

1:41:47 Speaker 44: a decade?

1:41:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen years? Yeah, yeah, the non makeup era lasted

1:41:53 Speaker 1: thirteen years.

1:41:54 Speaker 35: Did you like the music better during that era or

1:41:57 Speaker 35: what's your favorite era of Kiss?

1:41:58 Speaker 1: I love every era of Kiss, but my favorite era

1:42:02 Speaker 1: is late makeup era, like, you know, the first half

1:42:08 Speaker 1: of the nineties when they were still out of makeup.

1:42:09 Speaker 1: That was my favorite era of Kiss. But see, I

1:42:13 Speaker 1: mean part of my perspective is when I became a

1:42:15 Speaker 1: Kiss fan. They were already out of the makeup for

1:42:16 Speaker 1: a couple of years. It was actually Tears Are Falling?

1:42:20 Speaker 44: Well, you were after the makeup? Yeah, yeah, I guess

1:42:23 Speaker 44: I kind of assumed you were in it from the beginning. No, no, no,

1:42:28 Speaker 44: I was you were a late bloomer.

1:42:31 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when I really got into Kiss, it was

1:42:36 Speaker 1: the video for Tears Are Falling was on MTV. It

1:42:40 Speaker 1: was on in heavy rotation actually, and I was I

1:42:43 Speaker 1: still remember I was watching MTV one day after school

1:42:46 Speaker 1: and the video for Teers Are Falling is on, and

1:42:48 Speaker 1: my dad comes home from work and he kind of

1:42:51 Speaker 1: pokes his head into the living room and says, Maddie,

1:42:54 Speaker 1: who is that is that Kiss? And I said yeah.

1:42:57 Speaker 1: He said I really liked this song and I said, oh, yeah,

1:43:00 Speaker 1: me too. It's like my favorite song right now. And

1:43:03 Speaker 1: I guess he kind of made a mental note of that,

1:43:05 Speaker 1: because then he got me that album for Christmas. He

1:43:07 Speaker 1: got me a Kiss Asylum was the album, and I

1:43:11 Speaker 1: think Kiss fan was born and yeah, and that was,

1:43:13 Speaker 1: you know, and I listened to that over and over

1:43:15 Speaker 1: and that was when Kiss became my favorite band. But yeah,

1:43:21 Speaker 1: so they were already out of the makeup anyway. So

1:43:24 Speaker 1: but yeah, and then and then Paul had to talk

1:43:26 Speaker 1: Gene into it in ninety six when uh, because they

1:43:30 Speaker 1: did the MTV Unplugged where they were able to, you know,

1:43:35 Speaker 1: the two guys, the two original guys who were not

1:43:37 Speaker 1: in the band at that point, Peter Chris and Ace Raeley,

1:43:39 Speaker 1: they were able to join in for a few songs.

1:43:41 Speaker 1: So that that kind of that kind of got the

1:43:43 Speaker 1: ball rolling. You know, well, maybe we should put the

1:43:45 Speaker 1: original lineup back together and do a reunion in full makeup.

1:43:49 Speaker 14: That makes sense.

1:43:49 Speaker 1: But again Paul had to talk Gene into it because

1:43:52 Speaker 1: Gene wanted to. He was skeptical and he was like, like,

1:43:56 Speaker 1: I like the path we're on now, we should just

1:43:58 Speaker 1: keep going with this. And Paul said, now that the

1:44:01 Speaker 1: fans want this, and you know, and he was right

1:44:05 Speaker 1: because that ended up being that reunion tour that summer

1:44:09 Speaker 1: in ninety six, Kiss and Metallica, those were the two

1:44:12 Speaker 1: top selling tours of the summer. That's how huge that was.

1:44:15 Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was massively successful.

1:44:18 Speaker 35: So true they did the right thing in the end.

1:44:21 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So one other quick thing here, and I

1:44:26 Speaker 1: think I'd sent this one to you. This is because

1:44:28 Speaker 1: we talk about it even came up in our conversation

1:44:30 Speaker 1: with Cammy Nicks. We talked on the show a lot

1:44:33 Speaker 1: about AI and AI and music, and so this relates

1:44:36 Speaker 1: very directly to that. This is from the BBC, AI

1:44:42 Speaker 1: claims and a hoax spokesman. Viral band confuses the world

1:44:46 Speaker 1: of music. So there's this viral band. This is this

1:44:50 Speaker 1: band is AI generated? Check this out. So a band

1:44:54 Speaker 1: called The Velvet Sundown has had its tracks played hundreds

1:44:58 Speaker 1: of thousands of times on Spotify since appearing several weeks ago,

1:45:02 Speaker 1: without anyone knowing for sure what it is. The band

1:45:05 Speaker 1: has a verified page on the music streaming platform with

1:45:08 Speaker 1: more than eight hundred and fifty thousand monthly listeners. That's

1:45:13 Speaker 1: a hit. However, none of the four named musicians in

1:45:16 Speaker 1: the band have given any interviews or appear to have

1:45:19 Speaker 1: individual social media accounts, and there are no records of

1:45:23 Speaker 1: any live performances. It is prompted accusations that they and

1:45:29 Speaker 1: their music are AI generated something the band, something the

1:45:34 Speaker 1: band denies on social media, not on camera, and the

1:45:39 Speaker 1: band did not respond to the BBC's request for an interview.

1:45:44 Speaker 1: This is kind of funny, I mean it's scary, but

1:45:46 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny at the same time. Further confusing

1:45:50 Speaker 1: the story, Rolling Stone reported that the bands spokesman had

1:45:54 Speaker 1: admitted The Velvet Sundown's music had been generated using an

1:45:58 Speaker 1: AI tool called care to Guess Studio, the one the

1:46:06 Speaker 1: one we've used, only for the magazine to UH to

1:46:11 Speaker 1: report shortly afterwards that the spokesman was himself a hoax.

1:46:17 Speaker 35: The spokesman was Ai yes oh, I missed that part.

1:46:20 Speaker 1: The man who goes by the name of Andrew Frehlan

1:46:25 Speaker 1: UH said it was a deliberate plot to hoax the media.

1:46:29 Speaker 1: A statement on the band Spotify page said that the

1:46:32 Speaker 1: group has quote no affiliation with this individual nor any

1:46:35 Speaker 1: evidence confirming their identity or existence unquote. An account on

1:46:40 Speaker 1: x which claims to be the band's official channel is

1:46:43 Speaker 1: also fake, it added. Professor Gina Neff from the Mindero

1:46:48 Speaker 1: or Mindaru Center for Technology and Democracy. Let's go with

1:46:53 Speaker 1: MINDERU because that's fun to say at the University of

1:46:56 Speaker 1: Cambridge says it points to a problem which affects much

1:47:00 Speaker 1: more than just one band. She said, quote whether this

1:47:03 Speaker 1: is an AI band may not seem important, but increasingly

1:47:07 Speaker 1: our collective grip on reality seems shaky. The Velvet Sundown

1:47:11 Speaker 1: story plays into the fears we have of losing control

1:47:15 Speaker 1: of AI and shows how important protecting online information is. Unquote.

1:47:21 Speaker 1: The Velvet sundowns indie ballads with guitar music and male

1:47:25 Speaker 1: vocals is fairly easy. If bland on the ear with

1:47:31 Speaker 1: lyrics such as eyes like film in faded light dreams,

1:47:36 Speaker 1: walk barefoot into the night, ash and velvet smoke, and

1:47:41 Speaker 1: flame calling out in Freedom's name, it could all feasibly

1:47:47 Speaker 1: be either AI generated or appenned by humans.

1:47:50 Speaker 44: Uh yeah, do you remember that happened with me recently?

1:47:56 Speaker 44: Yai band an.

1:47:58 Speaker 1: AI band contacted you.

1:48:00 Speaker 35: Well, I contected them.

1:48:04 Speaker 44: The name is Interfury, Yes, and I really liked the

1:48:08 Speaker 44: music and thought, oh, these guys are great.

1:48:10 Speaker 1: I'd love to have them on.

1:48:12 Speaker 44: And then I come to find out they are the

1:48:14 Speaker 44: creation of one human who created these other humans that.

1:48:18 Speaker 3: Are not human.

1:48:18 Speaker 44: They are AI, and the whole band is is Yeah,

1:48:24 Speaker 44: his his musical creation. But in this instance is a

1:48:27 Speaker 44: big difference because he said every single lyric has been

1:48:31 Speaker 44: written by him.

1:48:33 Speaker 35: Yeah, for this particular band, Interfury.

1:48:36 Speaker 44: So I don't know about the other person, but I

1:48:38 Speaker 44: know that all The lyrics to this particular music is

1:48:42 Speaker 44: claimed to have been written by the artist.

1:48:44 Speaker 1: Let's see so they have us. I just looked up

1:48:49 Speaker 1: on YouTube. I want to I want to check out

1:48:51 Speaker 1: the music of the Velvet Sundown. They have a Velvet

1:48:53 Speaker 1: Sundown song called dust on the Wind. Not dust in

1:48:57 Speaker 1: the Wind, that's that's Kansas. This is dust on the Wind.

1:49:03 Speaker 1: Let's uh. I want to hear this and just see

1:49:06 Speaker 1: what it's like. Uh, here we go. Oh, it's got

1:49:09 Speaker 1: to get through these commercials. It is uh, it is

1:49:12 Speaker 1: monetized content. Let's see dust on the Wind.

1:49:18 Speaker 35: I say that's pretty smart.

1:49:30 Speaker 25: Dust on the wind, boots on the ground, smoking the sky.

1:49:38 Speaker 33: No peace, faun rivers run raid the drums are also.

1:49:46 Speaker 3: Tell me brother, where do we go? Raise your hand

1:49:54 Speaker 3: all away, sing how loud?

1:50:00 Speaker 5: Hey coma pay.

1:50:02 Speaker 3: Much hoopy note fau pride, Let.

1:50:08 Speaker 1: That fly turn with the child. M hm, well it

1:50:22 Speaker 1: sounds very pro war.

1:50:26 Speaker 3: Let's fly.

1:50:27 Speaker 33: You think it's pro Mama praise, while Young Manda.

1:50:33 Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Yeah, it's it sounds like it's we

1:50:38 Speaker 1: we still got time to make a stand. God time

1:50:41 Speaker 1: made It's a it's a lyric video that I'm playing

1:50:45 Speaker 1: it from that's why the lyrics.

1:50:48 Speaker 33: Look away, sing down loud, may compay.

1:50:55 Speaker 3: Much happy note f pride.

1:51:07 Speaker 1: I gotta say I love this AI generated voice. It's voice.

1:51:11 Speaker 35: Yeah, that's kind of an issue.

1:51:14 Speaker 44: Because all the ones I've heard so far, but actually

1:51:17 Speaker 44: really good. So that's that's kind of boo. Oh yeah, yeah,

1:51:21 Speaker 44: I want to I just want to know what is

1:51:22 Speaker 44: AI and what is human?

1:51:25 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.

1:51:25 Speaker 44: Yeah, I think there should be a little disclaimer or something. Yeah,

1:51:30 Speaker 44: like this is my creation, but the band is Magic,

1:51:34 Speaker 44: the Velvet Sundown. I'm curious if I can find anything else.

1:51:37 Speaker 1: Of there here.

1:51:39 Speaker 44: Uh so you should check out that Interfury one. Yeah no,

1:51:44 Speaker 44: you showed me that, Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah I

1:51:47 Speaker 44: did show it too.

1:51:48 Speaker 1: Oh. They've got a whole album called Dust and Silence,

1:51:51 Speaker 1: Dust and Silence. Yeah, let's see.

1:51:53 Speaker 35: This was the song though, wasn't it dust, Dust on

1:51:56 Speaker 35: the Wind, on the Wind.

1:51:57 Speaker 1: This one's called let It Bird.

1:52:06 Speaker 33: Flicker, lights on silver sad, marching ghosts with no commands,

1:52:20 Speaker 33: velvet boots on mirrored ground, drums of thunder distance.

1:52:33 Speaker 5: Promises, e static blue.

1:52:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it is a little bland, but all

1:52:43 Speaker 1: right there it is the world Radio premiere of The

1:52:46 Speaker 1: Velvet Sundown.

1:52:47 Speaker 3: No, we don't close your eyes and smoke these.

1:52:53 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these song titles. I do too. I'm

1:52:56 Speaker 1: looking at these song titles and this titles like Driftwood,

1:52:59 Speaker 1: Soul Jurors, where War Remains. Oh yeah, this is all.

1:53:06 Speaker 1: There seems to be a theme war debt yeh Crimson Parade.

1:53:13 Speaker 3: Oh isn't that a pretty image?

1:53:15 Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1:53:18 Speaker 13: Yeah.

1:53:18 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff in the lyrics about waving

1:53:20 Speaker 1: flags and maybe the person making people pay, the person.

1:53:24 Speaker 35: Created maybe be a veteran. Maybe you like, do we

1:53:28 Speaker 35: know anything about the creator?

1:53:30 Speaker 1: No, we don't know anything about just that they're not

1:53:33 Speaker 1: real and there.

1:53:35 Speaker 35: And their contact isn't real either, right, spokesperson.

1:53:40 Speaker 1: The spokesperson was not real. There's an AI generated picture

1:53:45 Speaker 1: of them, of the band.

1:53:48 Speaker 35: They saw that when I was looking at it.

1:53:50 Speaker 1: They look like uh, but the one.

1:53:54 Speaker 35: Yes, but you can tell like at least the one

1:53:56 Speaker 35: on the right hand side.

1:53:57 Speaker 1: Looked like he was AI.

1:53:59 Speaker 19: Yeah.

1:53:59 Speaker 1: They kind he doesn't look like he's They kind of

1:54:02 Speaker 1: look fake. Yeah. Yeah, Well yeah, that's where we are.

1:54:07 Speaker 21: Now.

1:54:08 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll

1:54:11 Speaker 1: begin to wrap up. We're almost out of time.

1:54:13 Speaker 35: Oh my goodness.

1:54:14 Speaker 1: Yes, I hope everyone had a safe Fourth of July.

1:54:16 Speaker 35: Absolutely, I hope you're stuff with hamburgers.

1:54:19 Speaker 3: And hot dogs.

1:54:20 Speaker 1: Oh, and there is a new Tough Bumps up, Eric

1:54:22 Speaker 1: and I did it yesterday. Tough Bumps Episode ten is up.

1:54:25 Speaker 1: You can find that online. And Jenny, you want to

1:54:28 Speaker 1: You're always up to a lot of stuff. You want

1:54:30 Speaker 1: to mention your website.

1:54:31 Speaker 44: Hi, you can always check me out at Jencoffee dot com.

1:54:33 Speaker 44: J E n n c O f f ui dot com.

1:54:36 Speaker 44: And I was told yesterday I have some things coming up,

1:54:39 Speaker 44: so stay tuned.

1:54:40 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. And if you want to know

1:54:42 Speaker 1: more about me and everything, I'm up to Matt Connerton

1:54:45 Speaker 1: dot com. And thank you again of course everyone who

1:54:47 Speaker 1: joined us today, Cammy Nix And in the second hour

1:54:50 Speaker 1: we had a congregation x they sounded amazing. And in

1:54:53 Speaker 1: the first hour we had Shanna Trehan, author of The

1:54:57 Speaker 1: Anxiety Fix. That was a very interesting conversation. And if

1:55:00 Speaker 1: you miss any part of today's show, it will be

1:55:02 Speaker 1: up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org

1:55:06 Speaker 1: and at my website Matt Connerton dot com. And I

1:55:10 Speaker 1: also want to mention before I play the show's outro music.

1:55:15 Speaker 1: That all the new music that you hear on the show,

1:55:18 Speaker 1: the bumper music, the new theme music. Everything that is

1:55:21 Speaker 1: our friend Dylan Reynolds from Adam Bomb. Wait. I want

1:55:26 Speaker 1: to make sure I get this right because I think

1:55:27 Speaker 1: I said the name of his service wrong the other day.

1:55:30 Speaker 1: I want to look at the logo because I want

1:55:34 Speaker 1: to give you the website too, for anyone who's interested. Oh, yeah,

1:55:37 Speaker 1: Dylan does great work. Yeah, so Adam Bomb is great,

1:55:42 Speaker 1: Adam Bomb Artwork and audio, and the website is adambom

1:55:46 Speaker 1: artwork dot com. Adam as an a t O m

1:55:50 Speaker 1: Adam Bomb, and yeah, Dylan's amazing. We love our friend

1:55:53 Speaker 1: Dylan Reynolds. So with that we shall bid you ado

1:55:57 Speaker 1: and and we'll talk at you all next week. Thanks everybody,

1:56:00 Speaker 1: Bye bye.

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