Gandhi was right about Christians | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: Who the fuck needs twenty million dollars a year to

0:02 Speaker 1: live well.

0:03 Speaker 2: Not only that, but look at people like Doug Wilson.

0:06 Speaker 2: You know, he lives very well. He's a very wealthy man.

0:10 Speaker 2: A lot of these these religious leaders are very very wealthy.

0:13 Speaker 2: That's why I I, you know, and again i'll.

0:16 Speaker 1: I'll these churches, some of these churches a million dollar church.

0:19 Speaker 2: Must And you know, I get and again I get

0:22 Speaker 2: accused by a family member of being anti Christian when

0:25 Speaker 2: I say this stuff. But it's like, I'm actually not

0:27 Speaker 2: anti Christian. I think I think Gandhi was right. You know,

0:31 Speaker 2: when Gandhi I can never get the exact quote right

0:33 Speaker 2: when he said, it's it's it's not it's not your

0:35 Speaker 2: christ I don't like. It's your Christians. I don't like

0:38 Speaker 2: because they're so unlike your christ Or as a friend

0:41 Speaker 2: of mine used to paraphrase, I have a friend who

0:43 Speaker 2: passed away a few years ago, but he used to

0:44 Speaker 2: say his version of that was Christianity is a great idea.

0:47 Speaker 2: Somebody should actually try it, because you know, these people

0:51 Speaker 2: so so blatantly, so flagrantly. I call it ironic Christianity.

0:57 Speaker 2: You know, which is this this version of Christianity where

1:00 Speaker 2: you say you love Christ and he's your savior, while

1:04 Speaker 2: actively having as little to do as possible with anything

1:08 Speaker 2: Christ actually said or taught and behaviors. Yeah, exactly exactly.

1:14 Speaker 2: That's why you know, I'm I'm pretty skeptical about all

1:18 Speaker 2: of it because I don't think any of these people

1:19 Speaker 2: actually it's does.

1:21 Speaker 3: Jesus say, for I was a stranger in your land

1:24 Speaker 3: and you fed me?

1:25 Speaker 1: For I was a stranger.

1:27 Speaker 3: There's a whole section of the Bible and Jesus says,

1:29 Speaker 3: you know, you fed me, you clothe me, you housed me,

1:33 Speaker 3: you did right by me.

1:34 Speaker 1: And then he goes after the people on the.

1:36 Speaker 3: Other side and he says, for I was a stranger

1:38 Speaker 3: in your land and you did not feed me, and

1:41 Speaker 3: you did not clothe me. And he casts them down

1:47 Speaker 3: because they're not the real Christian. The real Christian is

1:50 Speaker 3: the one who brought them in. The real Christian is

1:54 Speaker 3: the one that goes over to the poor and feeds

1:57 Speaker 3: them and close them. And here's what's the kicker for you. Okay,

2:01 Speaker 3: the whole thing about government is not going to doesn't

2:04 Speaker 3: want to do charity things.

2:07 Speaker 1: You know, we're not gonna we shouldn't have food stamps.

2:09 Speaker 1: We should have churches with food banks. That's the answer.

2:12 Speaker 3: We shouldn't have free things because the churches will do it.

2:17 Speaker 1: These are the churches and they're not doing it.

2:20 Speaker 3: And then, yeah, so the same people who are saying

2:23 Speaker 3: the church is to be doing it are the same

2:25 Speaker 3: people who are that the.

2:27 Speaker 1: Leaders in these churches who won't freaking.

2:29 Speaker 2: Do it, right you want? Yeah, sorry, I just wanted

2:33 Speaker 2: to say to be fair. So when we talk about this,

2:36 Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about the churches that are obviously

2:38 Speaker 2: all about the money, or at least obviously those of

2:40 Speaker 2: us who are looking at them with a critical eye.

2:43 Speaker 2: There are I just want to acknowledge that it. You know,

2:45 Speaker 2: in communities all across the country, there are also small

2:49 Speaker 2: churches that actually do do things for the community like

2:53 Speaker 2: run soup kitchens and various charities and food drives and

2:56 Speaker 2: clothing drives and everything. So I want to acknowledge that too.

2:59 Speaker 2: I don't want to paint everybody with that, because yeah,

3:04 Speaker 2: there are people who are actually believe it or not

3:06 Speaker 2: trying to do Christ's work in communities all across the country,

3:10 Speaker 2: and they they need to be uh acknowledged and praised

3:14 Speaker 2: for that. Because they're actually they're actually doing something good,

3:18 Speaker 2: so we don't want to pay with a broad brush.

3:19 Speaker 2: But we're talking about the Charlatans, who unfortunately are the

3:22 Speaker 2: ones who get all the media coverage, who are who

3:25 Speaker 2: are not doing Christ's work because my theory is they're

3:27 Speaker 2: they're atheists. I always say this about televangelists, there's no

3:31 Speaker 2: way they actually believe in God, because if they like

3:34 Speaker 2: people like people away. No, No, I don't think it's even that.

3:37 Speaker 2: I have a different theory about that. I know everyone

3:40 Speaker 2: says that, but they do. I think no. I think

3:42 Speaker 2: they're full on atheists. I'll tell you why, because if

3:45 Speaker 2: there were any part of them that actually believed, wouldn't

3:48 Speaker 2: they be afraid of going to Hell for what they do?

3:52 Speaker 2: I think they will. I think they're atheists because.

3:57 Speaker 1: I don't think they all believe in what they're saying.

4:00 Speaker 3: When I lived a God lived in Kentucky years ago,

4:03 Speaker 3: I looked in Kentucky and I worked in a real

4:06 Speaker 3: sweatshop sewing factory. We made pajamas and I had to

4:11 Speaker 3: like sew sleeves onto these shirts, and you had to

4:14 Speaker 3: look at your machine if you were caught looking at

4:17 Speaker 3: somebody else you'd get yelled at in front of everybody

4:21 Speaker 3: and threatened with getting fired. No talking not they There

4:27 Speaker 3: were multiple times that Friday would roll around and they'd

4:30 Speaker 3: tell us that the banks screwed something up and when

4:33 Speaker 3: our paychecks weren't there, or you'd go to the bank

4:35 Speaker 3: to cast your paycheck.

4:36 Speaker 1: And it would bounce. There wouldn't bet any money left

4:39 Speaker 1: in the account if you didn't get there fast enough

4:41 Speaker 1: to get your paycheck.

4:42 Speaker 3: But every Friday at three pm, we were to shut

4:46 Speaker 3: our machines off and they would play original Sin doctrine

4:52 Speaker 3: sermons over the speakers. If you didn't want to listen

4:56 Speaker 3: to it, you were supposed to go back to work.

4:58 Speaker 1: But if you turned your machine and went back to work,

5:01 Speaker 1: somebody would yell at you that they couldn't hear the sermon.

5:04 Speaker 3: Right, he's seeing holier than and they believed Oh did

5:09 Speaker 3: they believe me? Lord?

5:10 Speaker 4: I understand that they and literally them came out of

5:15 Speaker 4: the office and said to me, the reason we weren't

5:17 Speaker 4: getting paid was because the fax machine messed up the

5:20 Speaker 4: numbers when they sent it.

5:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I told him I knew how a fax

5:24 Speaker 3: machine worked. And I went home with my paycheck and

5:26 Speaker 3: I was told that I was to say nothing or

5:28 Speaker 3: I would be fired, and so would my husband.

5:32 Speaker 1: But these are the same people here.

5:33 Speaker 3: These guys make so much money off of the faithful,

5:37 Speaker 3: but they believe wholeheartedly that God wants them to do this.

5:42 Speaker 1: God wants them to have these things just to clarify

5:45 Speaker 1: them for the hard work that they're doing.

5:48 Speaker 2: It's it's it's called it's called prosperity gospel. But what

5:52 Speaker 2: I'm I'm just saying, I'm talking about the people at

5:54 Speaker 2: the very top, the very top, like Kenneth Copeland, Paula White,

5:58 Speaker 2: Joel Olstein.

5:59 Speaker 1: I just I personally she excused.

6:03 Speaker 2: No, no, No, that's what I'm saying. I believe I

6:06 Speaker 2: believe that they don't believe at all. I'm saying this

6:08 Speaker 2: is purely.

6:09 Speaker 3: A business that I'm surprised that you say that.

6:14 Speaker 2: Did I say what that?

6:16 Speaker 1: You don't think they're real believers?

6:19 Speaker 2: You're you're surprised, No, I don't. I don't think. I

6:21 Speaker 2: don't think that's what I'm Yeah, I don't think Paula

6:24 Speaker 2: what they really.

6:25 Speaker 1: I do believe she does. I do think she's a

6:28 Speaker 1: true believer.

6:29 Speaker 3: I think she so believes that she's been chosen by

6:33 Speaker 3: this power that if she gets us stinging in her foot,

6:36 Speaker 3: it's God's telling her something.

6:38 Speaker 2: No, it's a business. It's a business to them. It's

6:40 Speaker 2: a business to them.

6:42 Speaker 1: They I will agree to disagree with you.

6:45 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. I mean who knows. I don't know.

6:47 Speaker 2: I don't know what what goes on in their brains

6:48 Speaker 2: are in their hearts. But no, I don't. That's always

6:51 Speaker 2: been my theory that that I'm talking about. I'm talking

6:53 Speaker 2: about the really rich televangelists like Paula White, Joel Oldstein.

6:58 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think they don't. I don't think

7:02 Speaker 2: that they actually believe that there's a deity who's going

7:05 Speaker 2: to judge them when they die. Because if they actually

7:07 Speaker 2: believed that, wouldn't they be afraid to do what they do?

7:12 Speaker 2: And this you see?

7:14 Speaker 1: All right?

7:14 Speaker 3: Let me let me say I lived in Kentucky for

7:17 Speaker 3: three years, and you want to talk about uber uber

7:21 Speaker 3: Christian like these people are Christians you've never met?

7:25 Speaker 2: No, But that's not who I'm talking about.

7:28 Speaker 3: But that's what I know. I disagree with you there.

7:31 Speaker 3: These people are those people. They are those believers that

7:37 Speaker 3: carry it like a badge of courage, and they truly

7:40 Speaker 3: believe there's something magical inside them. When that woman stands

7:44 Speaker 3: up Ryan and she believes that God is going to

7:47 Speaker 3: give her the strength to move a hurricane with.

7:51 Speaker 1: A stick while she's speaking in tongues.

7:55 Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes, she knows it's good. She knows.

8:02 Speaker 1: They believe that ship, lockstock and barrel. They'll fight you

8:05 Speaker 1: over it. They'll kill you.

8:07 Speaker 3: My Actually, my father in law Breton to shoot me.

8:12 Speaker 1: He was gonna like threaten to kill me.

8:14 Speaker 2: What I'm talking about?

8:15 Speaker 1: Excuse me? He accuse me of doing witchcraft lighting?

8:18 Speaker 2: H No, I understand that.

8:20 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the people that these people. I've

8:23 Speaker 1: met these people.

8:24 Speaker 3: I've met some of these people who are a ship

8:25 Speaker 3: ton of money and they justify it.

8:31 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people at the though they believe.

8:34 Speaker 3: No, I think they believe it. I think they're firm believers.

8:38 Speaker 3: I don't think you think Joel.

8:39 Speaker 2: You think Joel actually believes as a God judge.

8:43 Speaker 3: Him, Yes, yes, but he doesn't believe God's going to

8:47 Speaker 3: judge him poorly.

8:48 Speaker 1: They don't fear judgment. You got to understand something, too, honey.

8:52 Speaker 3: A lot of these people believe that once in grace

8:56 Speaker 3: always engrace.

8:57 Speaker 1: Once you're saved. You're always saved, which.

9:00 Speaker 2: Gives you all, which gives you a perpetual get out

9:03 Speaker 2: of jail free.

9:04 Speaker 1: Ever you commit always engrace.

9:06 Speaker 3: And if you don't believe one hundred percent and that

9:09 Speaker 3: you believe that once you repent, you're fine. As long

9:13 Speaker 3: as you ask God for forgiveness, you go to heaven.

9:16 Speaker 3: So no matter what you do, even if you come

9:17 Speaker 3: to believe that something you did was wrong, as long

9:21 Speaker 3: as you prayed on it and turned it over to God.

9:25 Speaker 1: Left it on the altar.

9:27 Speaker 2: Well so well, So do you believe that Trump actually

9:30 Speaker 2: believes all of his own bullshit? Or is this a

9:32 Speaker 2: con see I apply the same sea. I look at

9:35 Speaker 2: Trumps the same way I look at these televangelists, because

9:38 Speaker 2: I also know that that Trump is a con man,

9:40 Speaker 2: and he's just conned millions of people who are gullible

9:43 Speaker 2: enough to believe he found.

9:46 Speaker 1: He tapped in and realized.

9:52 Speaker 3: How much power there Isn't that Because if they stand

9:55 Speaker 3: in front of you with the Bible preaching gospel, and

9:59 Speaker 3: preaching gospel means you're saying anything godly. So Trump's standing

10:04 Speaker 3: there with the Bible and saying something.

10:06 Speaker 1: Godly is God. This is God moving through him. Say

10:13 Speaker 1: you believe it looks That's why he can't do anything wrong,

10:16 Speaker 1: because God is directing it, all.

10:17 Speaker 2: Right, and as a plan for it was chosen by

10:21 Speaker 2: God only he knows what he.

10:24 Speaker 3: You cannot understand the wonders of the Lord. You have

10:27 Speaker 3: to put your faith in trust in it.

10:29 Speaker 2: And that's.

10:32 Speaker 1: To win. He wanted to win. He also wanted to

10:34 Speaker 1: stay out of jail. And he saw that these.

10:36 Speaker 3: People latched on and he realized that if he gave

10:39 Speaker 3: them the Christianity they were looking for, they'd be in

10:44 Speaker 3: like crazy all over him. And that's exactly what's happened.

10:47 Speaker 3: All he does is give them what they want, and

10:50 Speaker 3: they're happy, and he keeps them, and he keeps their

10:53 Speaker 3: their support and their favoritism and all of that.

10:57 Speaker 1: And that's all he kids about. I don't think he

10:59 Speaker 1: knows shit about the freaking Bible.

11:01 Speaker 3: Anybody who stands there and goes two Corinthians has never

11:05 Speaker 3: read the fucking Bible, because you don't even know how

11:07 Speaker 3: it works.

11:08 Speaker 1: Well.

11:09 Speaker 2: My favorite, my favorite clip of all time is was

11:11 Speaker 2: when side down No No, When Who's at John Heilman

11:16 Speaker 2: and who is the other guy? Rob Halprin. This was

11:19 Speaker 2: back during the twenty sixteen campaign when they asked him

11:22 Speaker 2: after a debate, was he you know, if he had

11:24 Speaker 2: a specific passage in the Bible that he's like, oh, no,

11:28 Speaker 2: I like all of it. And ask him, well, are

11:29 Speaker 2: you of a more of an Old Testament guy or

11:31 Speaker 2: a New Testament guy? And he goes, well, you know,

11:33 Speaker 2: I think I like them both equally. And it's like

11:36 Speaker 2: he's but but and yet these Christian conservatives, they're so

11:41 Speaker 2: easily conned by it.

11:43 Speaker 1: And they also they actual them very much to New Testament.

11:47 Speaker 3: Only Old Testament it was done away with with, was

11:51 Speaker 3: fulfilled by Jesus.

11:53 Speaker 1: So you follow the New Testament. The Old Testament isn't

11:57 Speaker 1: needed anymore.

11:58 Speaker 2: Well, the the world, but the Old well, but they

12:02 Speaker 2: go to the Old Testament.

12:04 Speaker 3: Of course they validate shit, they'll validate stories or whatever

12:08 Speaker 3: you mean testament, but that's not how you live by.

12:11 Speaker 3: You live by what's in the New Testament and what

12:14 Speaker 3: Jesus said. So we're not doing burnt offerings, No, they

12:17 Speaker 3: don't do that.

12:18 Speaker 1: Goal we move to Sundays instead of Saturdays.

12:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't give a about They don't give

12:23 Speaker 2: a shit about Jesus either, though, like that don't. I mean,

12:26 Speaker 2: I mean, they love him and they accept him as

12:27 Speaker 2: a savior, but they don't actually care about anything you

12:29 Speaker 2: said or did.

12:30 Speaker 1: Oh, they do. They believe it.

12:33 Speaker 3: I'm living a godly life by following Jesus's teachings.

12:37 Speaker 2: But they don't. Though they don't they don't.

12:39 Speaker 1: Believe they are, they firmly believe they are. Well, I

12:43 Speaker 1: think they I think they believe it.

12:46 Speaker 2: I think they kind of treat Jesus like he's like

12:49 Speaker 2: the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, Like, you know, we love him,

12:52 Speaker 2: he's part of the family. But if Jesus wants to

12:55 Speaker 2: just go to bed now and not say anything else

12:56 Speaker 2: crazy like you know, you should take care of poor

12:58 Speaker 2: people or not let children start over something. We've had

13:02 Speaker 2: enough of that, Jesus, Why don't you just going on

13:04 Speaker 2: to skip.

13:04 Speaker 1: Those pots that are inconvenient?

13:06 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course it's all inconvenient.

13:09 Speaker 1: They and they twist.

13:11 Speaker 3: You know, take take any section of Scripture, hand it

13:14 Speaker 3: to ten Christians, and they're all going to come up

13:15 Speaker 3: with who you know, they'll come up with ten different

13:18 Speaker 3: versions of what they think it says.

13:19 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it's based on whatever they want it to.

13:22 Speaker 3: Be exactly exactly I'll justify my belief. I'll find a

13:27 Speaker 3: verse that justify this one fits me. And that's how

13:30 Speaker 3: it works. I can justify anything I want to believe.

13:34 Speaker 3: Look at Doug believes that slavery was.

13:37 Speaker 1: Good for people. Doug Wilson is the one that said

13:41 Speaker 1: slavery was good for people.

13:43 Speaker 2: That's a common narrative among his ilk.

13:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they believe that shit, and they justify it

13:49 Speaker 3: biblically because you're supposed to be good to your slaves.

13:51 Speaker 1: It's in the Bible. They were good Christians, they were

13:54 Speaker 1: good to their slaves. See, yeah, that's real.

13:58 Speaker 3: These people like I've been. I'm telling you, these people

14:02 Speaker 3: will kill you for their belief. That's how strong the

14:06 Speaker 3: belief is. It is one hundred percent. And everything you

14:11 Speaker 3: do becomes for God, for God. It's that marching order,

14:16 Speaker 3: and you justify and they justify it. They for I

14:19 Speaker 3: believe that the vast majority of the fuckers think they're

14:23 Speaker 3: doing the right thing under their faith.

14:27 Speaker 1: But Trump is doing money.

14:31 Speaker 3: Heck seth, I think he might be fucked up and

14:33 Speaker 3: truly believe this shit because he's been a part of it.

14:36 Speaker 1: Long before you might hump orbit. He has been a

14:39 Speaker 1: part of this a long time.