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Gandhi was right about Christians | Matt Connarton Unleashed
Speaker 1: Who the fuck needs twenty million dollars a year to
Speaker 1: live well.
Speaker 2: Not only that, but look at people like Doug Wilson.
Speaker 2: You know, he lives very well. He's a very wealthy man.
Speaker 2: A lot of these these religious leaders are very very wealthy.
Speaker 2: That's why I I, you know, and again i'll.
Speaker 1: I'll these churches, some of these churches a million dollar church.
Speaker 2: Must And you know, I get and again I get
Speaker 2: accused by a family member of being anti Christian when
Speaker 2: I say this stuff. But it's like, I'm actually not
Speaker 2: anti Christian. I think I think Gandhi was right. You know,
Speaker 2: when Gandhi I can never get the exact quote right
Speaker 2: when he said, it's it's it's not it's not your
Speaker 2: christ I don't like. It's your Christians. I don't like
Speaker 2: because they're so unlike your christ Or as a friend
Speaker 2: of mine used to paraphrase, I have a friend who
Speaker 2: passed away a few years ago, but he used to
Speaker 2: say his version of that was Christianity is a great idea.
Speaker 2: Somebody should actually try it, because you know, these people
Speaker 2: so so blatantly, so flagrantly. I call it ironic Christianity.
Speaker 2: You know, which is this this version of Christianity where
Speaker 2: you say you love Christ and he's your savior, while
Speaker 2: actively having as little to do as possible with anything
Speaker 2: Christ actually said or taught and behaviors. Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: That's why you know, I'm I'm pretty skeptical about all
Speaker 2: of it because I don't think any of these people
Speaker 2: actually it's does.
Speaker 3: Jesus say, for I was a stranger in your land
Speaker 3: and you fed me?
Speaker 1: For I was a stranger.
Speaker 3: There's a whole section of the Bible and Jesus says,
Speaker 3: you know, you fed me, you clothe me, you housed me,
Speaker 3: you did right by me.
Speaker 1: And then he goes after the people on the.
Speaker 3: Other side and he says, for I was a stranger
Speaker 3: in your land and you did not feed me, and
Speaker 3: you did not clothe me. And he casts them down
Speaker 3: because they're not the real Christian. The real Christian is
Speaker 3: the one who brought them in. The real Christian is
Speaker 3: the one that goes over to the poor and feeds
Speaker 3: them and close them. And here's what's the kicker for you. Okay,
Speaker 3: the whole thing about government is not going to doesn't
Speaker 3: want to do charity things.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not gonna we shouldn't have food stamps.
Speaker 1: We should have churches with food banks. That's the answer.
Speaker 3: We shouldn't have free things because the churches will do it.
Speaker 1: These are the churches and they're not doing it.
Speaker 3: And then, yeah, so the same people who are saying
Speaker 3: the church is to be doing it are the same
Speaker 3: people who are that the.
Speaker 1: Leaders in these churches who won't freaking.
Speaker 2: Do it, right you want? Yeah, sorry, I just wanted
Speaker 2: to say to be fair. So when we talk about this,
Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about the churches that are obviously
Speaker 2: all about the money, or at least obviously those of
Speaker 2: us who are looking at them with a critical eye.
Speaker 2: There are I just want to acknowledge that it. You know,
Speaker 2: in communities all across the country, there are also small
Speaker 2: churches that actually do do things for the community like
Speaker 2: run soup kitchens and various charities and food drives and
Speaker 2: clothing drives and everything. So I want to acknowledge that too.
Speaker 2: I don't want to paint everybody with that, because yeah,
Speaker 2: there are people who are actually believe it or not
Speaker 2: trying to do Christ's work in communities all across the country,
Speaker 2: and they they need to be uh acknowledged and praised
Speaker 2: for that. Because they're actually they're actually doing something good,
Speaker 2: so we don't want to pay with a broad brush.
Speaker 2: But we're talking about the Charlatans, who unfortunately are the
Speaker 2: ones who get all the media coverage, who are who
Speaker 2: are not doing Christ's work because my theory is they're
Speaker 2: they're atheists. I always say this about televangelists, there's no
Speaker 2: way they actually believe in God, because if they like
Speaker 2: people like people away. No, No, I don't think it's even that.
Speaker 2: I have a different theory about that. I know everyone
Speaker 2: says that, but they do. I think no. I think
Speaker 2: they're full on atheists. I'll tell you why, because if
Speaker 2: there were any part of them that actually believed, wouldn't
Speaker 2: they be afraid of going to Hell for what they do?
Speaker 2: I think they will. I think they're atheists because.
Speaker 1: I don't think they all believe in what they're saying.
Speaker 3: When I lived a God lived in Kentucky years ago,
Speaker 3: I looked in Kentucky and I worked in a real
Speaker 3: sweatshop sewing factory. We made pajamas and I had to
Speaker 3: like sew sleeves onto these shirts, and you had to
Speaker 3: look at your machine if you were caught looking at
Speaker 3: somebody else you'd get yelled at in front of everybody
Speaker 3: and threatened with getting fired. No talking not they There
Speaker 3: were multiple times that Friday would roll around and they'd
Speaker 3: tell us that the banks screwed something up and when
Speaker 3: our paychecks weren't there, or you'd go to the bank
Speaker 3: to cast your paycheck.
Speaker 1: And it would bounce. There wouldn't bet any money left
Speaker 1: in the account if you didn't get there fast enough
Speaker 1: to get your paycheck.
Speaker 3: But every Friday at three pm, we were to shut
Speaker 3: our machines off and they would play original Sin doctrine
Speaker 3: sermons over the speakers. If you didn't want to listen
Speaker 3: to it, you were supposed to go back to work.
Speaker 1: But if you turned your machine and went back to work,
Speaker 1: somebody would yell at you that they couldn't hear the sermon.
Speaker 3: Right, he's seeing holier than and they believed Oh did
Speaker 3: they believe me? Lord?
Speaker 4: I understand that they and literally them came out of
Speaker 4: the office and said to me, the reason we weren't
Speaker 4: getting paid was because the fax machine messed up the
Speaker 4: numbers when they sent it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I told him I knew how a fax
Speaker 3: machine worked. And I went home with my paycheck and
Speaker 3: I was told that I was to say nothing or
Speaker 3: I would be fired, and so would my husband.
Speaker 1: But these are the same people here.
Speaker 3: These guys make so much money off of the faithful,
Speaker 3: but they believe wholeheartedly that God wants them to do this.
Speaker 1: God wants them to have these things just to clarify
Speaker 1: them for the hard work that they're doing.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's called it's called prosperity gospel. But what
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just saying, I'm talking about the people at
Speaker 2: the very top, the very top, like Kenneth Copeland, Paula White,
Speaker 2: Joel Olstein.
Speaker 1: I just I personally she excused.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, that's what I'm saying. I believe I
Speaker 2: believe that they don't believe at all. I'm saying this
Speaker 2: is purely.
Speaker 3: A business that I'm surprised that you say that.
Speaker 2: Did I say what that?
Speaker 1: You don't think they're real believers?
Speaker 2: You're you're surprised, No, I don't. I don't think. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's what I'm Yeah, I don't think Paula
Speaker 2: what they really.
Speaker 1: I do believe she does. I do think she's a
Speaker 1: true believer.
Speaker 3: I think she so believes that she's been chosen by
Speaker 3: this power that if she gets us stinging in her foot,
Speaker 3: it's God's telling her something.
Speaker 2: No, it's a business. It's a business to them. It's
Speaker 2: a business to them.
Speaker 1: They I will agree to disagree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. I mean who knows. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what what goes on in their brains
Speaker 2: are in their hearts. But no, I don't. That's always
Speaker 2: been my theory that that I'm talking about. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the really rich televangelists like Paula White, Joel Oldstein.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think they don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: that they actually believe that there's a deity who's going
Speaker 2: to judge them when they die. Because if they actually
Speaker 2: believed that, wouldn't they be afraid to do what they do?
Speaker 2: And this you see?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Let me let me say I lived in Kentucky for
Speaker 3: three years, and you want to talk about uber uber
Speaker 3: Christian like these people are Christians you've never met?
Speaker 2: No, But that's not who I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But that's what I know. I disagree with you there.
Speaker 3: These people are those people. They are those believers that
Speaker 3: carry it like a badge of courage, and they truly
Speaker 3: believe there's something magical inside them. When that woman stands
Speaker 3: up Ryan and she believes that God is going to
Speaker 3: give her the strength to move a hurricane with.
Speaker 1: A stick while she's speaking in tongues.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes, she knows it's good. She knows.
Speaker 1: They believe that ship, lockstock and barrel. They'll fight you
Speaker 1: over it. They'll kill you.
Speaker 3: My Actually, my father in law Breton to shoot me.
Speaker 1: He was gonna like threaten to kill me.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? He accuse me of doing witchcraft lighting?
Speaker 2: H No, I understand that.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the people that these people. I've
Speaker 1: met these people.
Speaker 3: I've met some of these people who are a ship
Speaker 3: ton of money and they justify it.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people at the though they believe.
Speaker 3: No, I think they believe it. I think they're firm believers.
Speaker 3: I don't think you think Joel.
Speaker 2: You think Joel actually believes as a God judge.
Speaker 3: Him, Yes, yes, but he doesn't believe God's going to
Speaker 3: judge him poorly.
Speaker 1: They don't fear judgment. You got to understand something, too, honey.
Speaker 3: A lot of these people believe that once in grace
Speaker 3: always engrace.
Speaker 1: Once you're saved. You're always saved, which.
Speaker 2: Gives you all, which gives you a perpetual get out
Speaker 2: of jail free.
Speaker 1: Ever you commit always engrace.
Speaker 3: And if you don't believe one hundred percent and that
Speaker 3: you believe that once you repent, you're fine. As long
Speaker 3: as you ask God for forgiveness, you go to heaven.
Speaker 3: So no matter what you do, even if you come
Speaker 3: to believe that something you did was wrong, as long
Speaker 3: as you prayed on it and turned it over to God.
Speaker 1: Left it on the altar.
Speaker 2: Well so well, So do you believe that Trump actually
Speaker 2: believes all of his own bullshit? Or is this a
Speaker 2: con see I apply the same sea. I look at
Speaker 2: Trumps the same way I look at these televangelists, because
Speaker 2: I also know that that Trump is a con man,
Speaker 2: and he's just conned millions of people who are gullible
Speaker 2: enough to believe he found.
Speaker 1: He tapped in and realized.
Speaker 3: How much power there Isn't that Because if they stand
Speaker 3: in front of you with the Bible preaching gospel, and
Speaker 3: preaching gospel means you're saying anything godly. So Trump's standing
Speaker 3: there with the Bible and saying something.
Speaker 1: Godly is God. This is God moving through him. Say
Speaker 1: you believe it looks That's why he can't do anything wrong,
Speaker 1: because God is directing it, all.
Speaker 2: Right, and as a plan for it was chosen by
Speaker 2: God only he knows what he.
Speaker 3: You cannot understand the wonders of the Lord. You have
Speaker 3: to put your faith in trust in it.
Speaker 2: And that's.
Speaker 1: To win. He wanted to win. He also wanted to
Speaker 1: stay out of jail. And he saw that these.
Speaker 3: People latched on and he realized that if he gave
Speaker 3: them the Christianity they were looking for, they'd be in
Speaker 3: like crazy all over him. And that's exactly what's happened.
Speaker 3: All he does is give them what they want, and
Speaker 3: they're happy, and he keeps them, and he keeps their
Speaker 3: their support and their favoritism and all of that.
Speaker 1: And that's all he kids about. I don't think he
Speaker 1: knows shit about the freaking Bible.
Speaker 3: Anybody who stands there and goes two Corinthians has never
Speaker 3: read the fucking Bible, because you don't even know how
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: My favorite, my favorite clip of all time is was
Speaker 2: when side down No No, When Who's at John Heilman
Speaker 2: and who is the other guy? Rob Halprin. This was
Speaker 2: back during the twenty sixteen campaign when they asked him
Speaker 2: after a debate, was he you know, if he had
Speaker 2: a specific passage in the Bible that he's like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I like all of it. And ask him, well, are
Speaker 2: you of a more of an Old Testament guy or
Speaker 2: a New Testament guy? And he goes, well, you know,
Speaker 2: I think I like them both equally. And it's like
Speaker 2: he's but but and yet these Christian conservatives, they're so
Speaker 2: easily conned by it.
Speaker 1: And they also they actual them very much to New Testament.
Speaker 3: Only Old Testament it was done away with with, was
Speaker 3: fulfilled by Jesus.
Speaker 1: So you follow the New Testament. The Old Testament isn't
Speaker 1: needed anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, the the world, but the Old well, but they
Speaker 2: go to the Old Testament.
Speaker 3: Of course they validate shit, they'll validate stories or whatever
Speaker 3: you mean testament, but that's not how you live by.
Speaker 3: You live by what's in the New Testament and what
Speaker 3: Jesus said. So we're not doing burnt offerings, No, they
Speaker 3: don't do that.
Speaker 1: Goal we move to Sundays instead of Saturdays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't give a about They don't give
Speaker 2: a shit about Jesus either, though, like that don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, they love him and they accept him as
Speaker 2: a savior, but they don't actually care about anything you
Speaker 2: said or did.
Speaker 1: Oh, they do. They believe it.
Speaker 3: I'm living a godly life by following Jesus's teachings.
Speaker 2: But they don't. Though they don't they don't.
Speaker 1: Believe they are, they firmly believe they are. Well, I
Speaker 1: think they I think they believe it.
Speaker 2: I think they kind of treat Jesus like he's like
Speaker 2: the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving, Like, you know, we love him,
Speaker 2: he's part of the family. But if Jesus wants to
Speaker 2: just go to bed now and not say anything else
Speaker 2: crazy like you know, you should take care of poor
Speaker 2: people or not let children start over something. We've had
Speaker 2: enough of that, Jesus, Why don't you just going on
Speaker 2: to skip.
Speaker 1: Those pots that are inconvenient?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course it's all inconvenient.
Speaker 1: They and they twist.
Speaker 3: You know, take take any section of Scripture, hand it
Speaker 3: to ten Christians, and they're all going to come up
Speaker 3: with who you know, they'll come up with ten different
Speaker 3: versions of what they think it says.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it's based on whatever they want it to.
Speaker 3: Be exactly exactly I'll justify my belief. I'll find a
Speaker 3: verse that justify this one fits me. And that's how
Speaker 3: it works. I can justify anything I want to believe.
Speaker 3: Look at Doug believes that slavery was.
Speaker 1: Good for people. Doug Wilson is the one that said
Speaker 1: slavery was good for people.
Speaker 2: That's a common narrative among his ilk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they believe that shit, and they justify it
Speaker 3: biblically because you're supposed to be good to your slaves.
Speaker 1: It's in the Bible. They were good Christians, they were
Speaker 1: good to their slaves. See, yeah, that's real.
Speaker 3: These people like I've been. I'm telling you, these people
Speaker 3: will kill you for their belief. That's how strong the
Speaker 3: belief is. It is one hundred percent. And everything you
Speaker 3: do becomes for God, for God. It's that marching order,
Speaker 3: and you justify and they justify it. They for I
Speaker 3: believe that the vast majority of the fuckers think they're
Speaker 3: doing the right thing under their faith.
Speaker 1: But Trump is doing money.
Speaker 3: Heck seth, I think he might be fucked up and
Speaker 3: truly believe this shit because he's been a part of it.
Speaker 1: Long before you might hump orbit. He has been a
Speaker 1: part of this a long time.
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