GrimRock | Matt Connarton Unleashed

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3:47 Speaker 7: No, that is abyss and that is grim Rock, and

4:02 Speaker 7: grim Rock is here with us, alive in studio today

4:05 Speaker 7: on Matt connorton unleash Tello grim.

4:07 Speaker 4: Hey, how are you good?

4:09 Speaker 7: Good? You sound great. It's wonderful to finally meet you.

4:11 Speaker 7: So you've been what how when was the first time

4:13 Speaker 7: you were on the show. I mean it was a

4:14 Speaker 7: few years ago, right, it was a couple of years ago. Yeah,

4:16 Speaker 7: it had to be at least a few because I remember.

4:18 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure the first time we played don't You,

4:20 Speaker 7: which was the first single of yours that we ever

4:22 Speaker 7: played on the show, we were still at the old

4:24 Speaker 7: because we haven't always been in this studio. We used

4:27 Speaker 7: to be down on Elm Street and we moved here

4:31 Speaker 7: maybe two and a half years ago. So yeah, so

4:34 Speaker 7: it's been a while. It's been a while. How many

4:35 Speaker 7: times have you been? Are you in the five timers club?

4:37 Speaker 2: Now?

4:37 Speaker 4: No, this will be four with me being here live.

4:40 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, doesn't that count us two for him? Why?

4:44 Speaker 7: What do you mean because.

4:44 Speaker 8: He traveled over two thousand miles?

4:46 Speaker 7: Oh, two thousand miles.

4:49 Speaker 4: I don't have any miles. I don't think it's it

4:51 Speaker 4: was like six hundred.

4:52 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, So you're from Pennsylvania.

5:00 Speaker 7: By the way, it's been I don't know if you know,

5:01 Speaker 7: this has been a very Pennsylvania show today because it

5:04 Speaker 7: just going and this this was not planned. It just

5:06 Speaker 7: worked out this way. The guess we had in the

5:08 Speaker 7: first hour Robin Ross is also in Pennsylvania from Robin

5:12 Speaker 7: Ross and the Mellow Dines. So it is just funny

5:13 Speaker 7: how that worked out. But so you're on tour, where

5:16 Speaker 7: did you play last night or tonight? The first night of.

5:19 Speaker 4: The tonight's the first night I actually stopped at the

5:21 Speaker 4: spot just to see the place and meet the owner

5:24 Speaker 4: and pass some stuff out and just you know, try

5:27 Speaker 4: to track people tonight, you.

5:28 Speaker 7: Know, excellent, excellent. Yeah, Jenny and I haven't been there yet,

5:31 Speaker 7: so this will be our first time there. We Yeah,

5:34 Speaker 7: we had Mike McDowell, the owner, also known as the Healer.

5:37 Speaker 7: I don't know did he introduce himself to you that way?

5:40 Speaker 4: Uh No, Actually, I just I caught him behind the

5:44 Speaker 4: you know, the boar.

5:45 Speaker 7: Okay, so I was half kid. I don't think he

5:47 Speaker 7: actually introduces himself as the Healer. But but that is

5:50 Speaker 7: a moniker that he hasked. No, but he's a he's

5:52 Speaker 7: a great guy. So he was on the show back

5:55 Speaker 7: before he had even opened. He was talking about it,

5:58 Speaker 7: and uh, I thought it was very positive that because

6:02 Speaker 7: it's not I don't know what I'm curious, like what

6:04 Speaker 7: it's like in your area as far as this goes.

6:07 Speaker 7: But in this area, it's really hard to find all

6:09 Speaker 7: ages shows and and venues that will have all ages events.

6:13 Speaker 7: There just aren't many, you know, because you know, if

6:17 Speaker 7: you go out to a club or a bar, it's

6:18 Speaker 7: it's usually either eighteen plus or twenty one plus. It's

6:21 Speaker 7: hard to find all ages venues anywhere. You know. We've

6:24 Speaker 7: had We've had some over the years, and there might

6:25 Speaker 7: be some in the area that I don't know about.

6:29 Speaker 7: But there's you know, they're few and far between, you know,

6:34 Speaker 7: or there's always promoters too who will And I did

6:36 Speaker 7: some of this back in the day. You know, you

6:38 Speaker 7: throw a show at an ELK slot or something and

6:40 Speaker 7: then it's all ages. You let people in because you're

6:42 Speaker 7: not serving alcohol. But but I think it's really cool

6:45 Speaker 7: that you're playing an all ages show at the spot,

6:47 Speaker 7: and uh, that's a that's a really such a service

6:50 Speaker 7: to the community what they're doing by providing an all

6:52 Speaker 7: ages venue for for people.

6:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a good thing. You know, back home,

6:56 Speaker 4: there's not very much of that either, you know really yeah, yeah,

6:59 Speaker 4: it's that to either bring your own bottle kind of

7:01 Speaker 4: club or you know, it's an eighteen plus. You know,

7:05 Speaker 4: that's pretty cool.

7:05 Speaker 7: Yeah. Have you been able to play all ages shows before?

7:09 Speaker 5: Yeah?

7:09 Speaker 7: Like, okay, so there are there are opportunities where you

7:13 Speaker 7: live that's just probably not many. Yeah, yeah, no, that's good.

7:18 Speaker 7: That's good. Now, do you know anything the band you're

7:20 Speaker 7: opening for, the Melted Chapsticks, You know anything about them?

7:22 Speaker 4: I absolutely don't. I checked. When I found out who

7:25 Speaker 4: it was, I went and listened to some of their music,

7:27 Speaker 4: so I could see what they sounded like. Yeah, and uh,

7:30 Speaker 4: you know, I talked to his name Mike, Mike McDowell,

7:34 Speaker 4: No spot, No, it goes by King Chapstick or something

7:39 Speaker 4: on Instagram.

7:40 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, Jenny, and I don't actually know them, believe

7:42 Speaker 7: it or not.

7:43 Speaker 4: Well, I was talking. I was talking to him back

7:44 Speaker 4: and forth here and there. So yeah, you get a

7:47 Speaker 4: feel for everything. Okay, it sounds like it's gonna be

7:49 Speaker 4: really cool, you know.

7:51 Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, outstanding. And then now where do you

7:55 Speaker 7: go after tonight? Where's your next stop after?

7:58 Speaker 4: Well, we'll stay here tonight, we'll leave tomorrow, and then

8:00 Speaker 4: I'll be in near Cleveland, Ohio. It will be my

8:03 Speaker 4: next one.

8:03 Speaker 7: Oh wow, Okay, how far are you going with this store? Like?

8:06 Speaker 7: How far? Where are you going? Uh?

8:08 Speaker 4: This is the Furthest. Okay, this is absolutely the Furthest. Yeah,

8:11 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. A lot of the other

8:12 Speaker 4: stuff is like three four hours tops.

8:14 Speaker 7: Okay, you know, okay, yeah for now? Yeah, yeah, oh,

8:18 Speaker 7: it sound like gas is expensive or anything, right, you.

8:22 Speaker 4: Know the way you know you play music and stuff,

8:24 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's you got a lost leader at

8:25 Speaker 4: the very beginning.

8:26 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know that is very true. That is very true.

8:30 Speaker 7: You know, even before gas prices went went way up

8:33 Speaker 7: like they have, there's been many you know, there's been

8:37 Speaker 7: national touring acts that have had to, uh really kind

8:40 Speaker 7: of cut down on the touring just because it's so

8:42 Speaker 7: cost prohibit of these days with the inflation and everything.

8:45 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but and then you get the national touring acts,

8:48 Speaker 4: so it charged so much money, you know, to even

8:51 Speaker 4: go see him. I mean, I get I get that

8:53 Speaker 4: they're they're the you know, big name bands and stuff

8:56 Speaker 4: like that.

8:56 Speaker 7: Yeah.

8:57 Speaker 4: Wow, some of the prices man.

8:59 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, ridiculous. Yeah, it's incredible. Now when you play tonight,

9:02 Speaker 7: so is it just you?

9:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just gonna be mean.

9:05 Speaker 7: And how does that work? So for our listeners who

9:07 Speaker 7: are not familiar with you, I know we've talked about

9:09 Speaker 7: it when you've been on the show, but I mean,

9:11 Speaker 7: how does that work when you're you know, because obviously

9:14 Speaker 7: you know your sound is it sounds like a full

9:17 Speaker 7: band on the studio albums, So what do you do

9:20 Speaker 7: to kind of replicate that live or how do you

9:22 Speaker 7: approach that?

9:22 Speaker 4: So basically, I do the recording of the tracks at

9:24 Speaker 4: the house, with the exception of cast a shadow. I

9:26 Speaker 4: did that in the studio studio, okay, But I play

9:29 Speaker 4: my own instruments, all of them.

9:31 Speaker 7: Yeah.

9:31 Speaker 4: And so in the very end when I go to

9:34 Speaker 4: get the when the track's finished and I need a

9:36 Speaker 4: backing track, then I just get rid of like all

9:38 Speaker 4: the guitars, all of them, and all the vocals except

9:41 Speaker 4: for maybe a few backup vocals depending on the track itself, okay.

9:44 Speaker 4: And then when I go to play it live, I

9:46 Speaker 4: played off tablet.

9:48 Speaker 7: Oh gotcha, Yeah, gotcha.

9:49 Speaker 4: So it's still there, you know, but it's just missing

9:53 Speaker 4: all this the main stuff. That way, you can hear

9:55 Speaker 4: when I make mistakes or ad lib or something's a

9:59 Speaker 4: little bit different with the song, you can hear that

10:00 Speaker 4: it's actually me playing against that track. It's not, you know,

10:03 Speaker 4: I'm not live sinking anything.

10:05 Speaker 7: Right, That makes sense?

10:06 Speaker 1: Now?

10:06 Speaker 7: Does anything ever go wrong with that?

10:08 Speaker 4: My first gig, man, I tell you what I think

10:10 Speaker 4: I probably told you on this show. And you know,

10:13 Speaker 4: mister Phil, he was a great guy for the whole thing.

10:15 Speaker 4: It was the Green Beacon Gallery, believe it or not. Okay,

10:17 Speaker 4: I played there a bunch ever since. Yeah, my first gig,

10:20 Speaker 4: you know, I was at home and I had my setup,

10:22 Speaker 4: and I was like, yes, this stuff works, I'm great.

10:24 Speaker 7: Yeah.

10:25 Speaker 4: Well I took a bunch of stuff with me that

10:27 Speaker 4: worked at home, and it didn't work with the system.

10:30 Speaker 4: Oh no, Oh it was a mess. But I got

10:32 Speaker 4: through it, you know, and he was very patient with me,

10:34 Speaker 4: and it was really cool. Well, I guess I've been

10:37 Speaker 4: back lots of times that place.

10:39 Speaker 7: So yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. How long are you playing

10:44 Speaker 7: for tonight? How long was that to you have?

10:47 Speaker 4: It depends. Now there was a third band on there.

10:49 Speaker 4: I think they something happened that they're not there now, okay,

10:53 Speaker 4: And I know there's another person going to do an

10:56 Speaker 4: act in between. Really, so I think originally it could

11:00 Speaker 4: have I'm going to guess forty minutes.

11:02 Speaker 7: Okay. So yeah, is that kind of what you're used to?

11:06 Speaker 7: I mean, like, have you ever had to play like

11:08 Speaker 7: a really long set?

11:09 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I played shows that were two hours, no kidding, yeah,

11:13 Speaker 4: everything in the book, man, I was like one through.

11:14 Speaker 4: I was like trying to remember stuff. By the end.

11:16 Speaker 4: I'm like, maybe I'll play something again, you know, like

11:19 Speaker 4: just to bring it back, you know. I'll played two

11:21 Speaker 4: hours shows a couple different times. Oh, okay, that's long.

11:23 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, So I want to talk about your sound

11:28 Speaker 7: because I describe it, you know, I always talk about

11:30 Speaker 7: it on the show before we play something of yours

11:32 Speaker 7: that you've got kind of a it's kind of a

11:33 Speaker 7: low five garage rock sound. That's how I describe it.

11:36 Speaker 7: I mean, that is that how you describe it to

11:38 Speaker 7: people who haven't heard you yet if they're curious about

11:40 Speaker 7: what to expect.

11:42 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, I always say garage rock, and I

11:44 Speaker 4: don't know if people really know what that is, you know,

11:46 Speaker 4: but you know, I'll say it, or I'll say alternative rock,

11:49 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because that alternative rock could

11:51 Speaker 4: be anything from mellow to grungy to you know, that

11:54 Speaker 4: raw sound or whatever.

11:55 Speaker 9: You know.

11:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, but uh yeah, so I just either those two

11:59 Speaker 4: were it's you know, it depends on i'm talking to.

12:01 Speaker 4: If it's a musician, I'm like, hey, it's garage rock,

12:03 Speaker 4: you know. If it's a regular person, I'm like, now,

12:05 Speaker 4: it's it's all rock, you know.

12:06 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean in the nineties, alt rock

12:09 Speaker 7: really kind of became a catch all term for anything

12:11 Speaker 7: that well, you know, like sort of in the post

12:14 Speaker 7: in the post hair metal period, alt rock. I feel

12:16 Speaker 7: like became a catch all for anything that wasn't hair metal, absolutely,

12:19 Speaker 7: and then eventually it just became everything because you know,

12:23 Speaker 7: everything was alt rock.

12:24 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Post Your Children Collect the Soul together

12:28 Speaker 4: with Nirvana. Yeah, that's alternative rock.

12:30 Speaker 7: Right right right. So for those for those who have

12:36 Speaker 7: not seen you again, if you're only listening to the

12:39 Speaker 7: audio version of the show, I say, yes, you check

12:40 Speaker 7: the video and you know there'll do lots of pictures

12:42 Speaker 7: and stuff. But so you've got the whole, You've got

12:45 Speaker 7: your outfit, you've got your face paint. How long does

12:47 Speaker 7: it take to put all that together?

12:50 Speaker 4: That's that's my every person, every makeup artist's dream right here.

12:55 Speaker 4: My wife does it. Yeah, and it takes about, I

12:58 Speaker 4: don't know, twenty minutes.

12:59 Speaker 7: Oh that's it something around there. Oh I'm not bad.

13:01 Speaker 4: Like if I did it, it would look terrible when I'd

13:03 Speaker 4: be done in five minutes and yeah, it'd be a mess.

13:06 Speaker 9: No.

13:06 Speaker 4: She she she does it for me every time. And oh, okay,

13:09 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, she does everything for me.

13:12 Speaker 4: Like with this, it's it's I'm grateful, you know.

13:15 Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, oh that's excellent. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't

13:19 Speaker 7: be like if I had to do that, I wouldn't

13:20 Speaker 7: be able to do it myself either.

13:21 Speaker 4: Oh no, it looks terrible if it looked like if

13:23 Speaker 4: I was just like four and just took a crayon

13:25 Speaker 4: on a piece of paper. Oh yeah, it's bad.

13:29 Speaker 7: I can't draw so like anytime, Like you know, when

13:32 Speaker 7: I used to dress up for Halloween. If my favorite

13:34 Speaker 7: band is Kiss. But if I were dressing up as

13:36 Speaker 7: a Kiss member, somebody would have to do my makeup

13:38 Speaker 7: for me. I literally could not. I just wouldn't have

13:41 Speaker 7: a clue to how to even do any of that myself.

13:44 Speaker 7: So yeah, I would. It would be a mess. Now

13:47 Speaker 7: have you ever I know I've asked you this before,

13:49 Speaker 7: but again for people who are just learning about you,

13:51 Speaker 7: have you ever played a show without the makeup I'd do?

13:54 Speaker 4: From Tom and Tom? It just depends on what it is. Yeah,

13:56 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. If it's like an open

13:58 Speaker 4: mic or something somewhere, it's only going to be a

14:00 Speaker 4: tracks or something. I probably I don't paint up. I

14:03 Speaker 4: probably should, you know, I think I've said that before.

14:05 Speaker 4: I probably should just to go do it right, But

14:08 Speaker 4: the amount of time it takes to do that, by

14:09 Speaker 4: the time you get up there and you you wait

14:11 Speaker 4: and you get your two three tracks or whatever. It's

14:14 Speaker 4: I just usually just get myself, you know, yeah, and

14:17 Speaker 4: the people have no idea who I am because I

14:18 Speaker 4: look like everybody else at that point.

14:22 Speaker 7: Right, So, is there is there like a transformative thing

14:25 Speaker 7: that happens when you put the makeup on you know,

14:27 Speaker 7: I've I've heard like Gene Simmons describe, you know, when

14:31 Speaker 7: when he puts the makeup on it and he becomes

14:32 Speaker 7: the demon. It's like a completely different mindset, Like does

14:35 Speaker 7: that happen for you anything like that?

14:37 Speaker 4: Well, you know on stage, yeah, I mean you got

14:38 Speaker 4: to take on what you look like, you know, just

14:42 Speaker 4: it's it's a completely different atmosphere and you're in front

14:45 Speaker 4: of all these people and you have to you know,

14:48 Speaker 4: your job is to entertain them, you know, whether you're

14:50 Speaker 4: you're musician, you're like, oh, my art is my art?

14:53 Speaker 4: That your your jobs to entertain the people that they're there. Yeah,

14:57 Speaker 4: that's fourth, first and foremost. So you got to give

15:00 Speaker 4: something so that you know, be painted up like us

15:01 Speaker 4: and give him a show, you know, in along the

15:05 Speaker 4: lines with that, right, you know, that's that's really what

15:09 Speaker 4: you know, is the transformative part. You know what I mean.

15:12 Speaker 7: We have some people in the chat room. Let's see.

15:15 Speaker 7: Oh we have some Yeah, we have some Vincent Julian

15:19 Speaker 7: Johnson is that someone you know?

15:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Vinnie. Oh yeah, yeah, Vinnie's awesome. I

15:23 Speaker 4: love him.

15:24 Speaker 7: Yeah, he says, oh, he posted a bunch of things

15:26 Speaker 7: in here. He said, let's go grimmer Man. Uh Grim, Rock,

15:31 Speaker 7: I'm I'm tuning in, brother, let's go. Let's see. Oh. Lacey,

15:36 Speaker 7: our friend, Lacey who I am, says I have a

15:39 Speaker 7: great show. Thank you, Lacey, if you're still listening, Rock

15:43 Speaker 7: and Robin says, thanks so much for having me on today.

15:45 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was Robin, Robin Ross. We had on

15:50 Speaker 7: in the first hour. Another Pennsylvanian. Thank you us. Yep,

15:54 Speaker 7: thank you Robin for joining us. Melvin Crockett Junior says,

15:58 Speaker 7: my guy Grim.

15:59 Speaker 4: That is the guy that did the video for Abyss.

16:01 Speaker 7: Oh, no kidding, okay, Oh excellent, excellent.

16:05 Speaker 4: He did a fantastic job on that video.

16:07 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, Vincent says, that's my guy. I love the

16:11 Speaker 7: guitar riff. Go Grim. Uh, let's see. Vincent also said,

16:17 Speaker 7: damn Grim, I see you, brother. I can't wait to

16:19 Speaker 7: do a feature with a hip hop twist. Ah, what

16:23 Speaker 7: does that mean? Interesting?

16:24 Speaker 4: So he's he's an artist. He does you know, hip

16:27 Speaker 4: hop and rap and stuff like that.

16:28 Speaker 7: Yeah.

16:28 Speaker 4: I mean, and we've talked about a collaboration. So okay,

16:32 Speaker 4: So it's you know that the things that I do

16:34 Speaker 4: he doesn't usually do, and the things he does I

16:35 Speaker 4: don't usually do. So it's going to be kind of

16:37 Speaker 4: kind of really unique, yeah, for both of us to

16:39 Speaker 4: get together to do something. But oh yeah, we're going

16:42 Speaker 4: to do something. I don't know what yet. Yeah, but

16:44 Speaker 4: we're we're going to figure something out.

16:45 Speaker 7: Oh excellent.

16:46 Speaker 2: Yeah.

16:47 Speaker 4: Yeah.

16:47 Speaker 7: He also said in the chat, a grim tell them

16:49 Speaker 7: to give you boy a shout out for grind Squad

16:52 Speaker 7: music group.

16:53 Speaker 4: That's his that's his group.

16:54 Speaker 7: Oh excellent. Okay, okay, well, very good, very good. I

16:58 Speaker 7: wonder if that's who if somebody was trying to call

16:59 Speaker 7: this udio line, I wonder if that's who was calling

17:05 Speaker 7: the eight seven eight? Is that a familiar aera code?

17:08 Speaker 7: I don't know what that was, Okay, yeah, no idea.

17:10 Speaker 7: That might have just might have been spam. Who knows.

17:14 Speaker 4: Extended Core warns you want to renew it?

17:16 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I get a lot of those. So, uh,

17:20 Speaker 7: are people surprised at at shows? If someone's there at

17:24 Speaker 7: a show, Like if people who go to the spot

17:26 Speaker 7: tonight who are not familiar with you haven't heard your

17:28 Speaker 7: music yet, do you expect that they will be surprised

17:31 Speaker 7: when because your your image with the paint? I mean,

17:34 Speaker 7: the first thing I'm sure you've heard this, and I've

17:36 Speaker 7: probably even said this to you, The first thing I

17:37 Speaker 7: think of is King Diamond when I see the paint.

17:41 Speaker 7: But you're you're not that right, so you know you're

17:43 Speaker 7: not gonna get up there and be like, you know,

17:45 Speaker 7: it's it's like we talked about, it's garage rock. So

17:48 Speaker 7: there's that cool, which I think is cool, that that

17:50 Speaker 7: contrast between what what you appear like visually and what

17:54 Speaker 7: comes out. But I mean, do you run into that

17:56 Speaker 7: a lot where people are just like, oh, just really

17:59 Speaker 7: taken aback?

18:00 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I get that, And you know it's

18:02 Speaker 4: okay because I like that elementary surprise.

18:05 Speaker 7: You know, I was gonna say, it must be fun,

18:07 Speaker 7: Oh it is? Yeah.

18:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I'll play something, I play a couple

18:10 Speaker 4: of risks or whatever. You know, don't warm up. I

18:11 Speaker 4: might play something a little heavier. You know what I mean.

18:13 Speaker 4: The Yeah, I go into my first track, my first

18:15 Speaker 4: couple of tracks, I do play them a little heavier

18:17 Speaker 4: than you know what it's recorded, But then you know,

18:20 Speaker 4: I'm in and out of things, you know what I mean.

18:21 Speaker 4: So when we get to that part, everybody's.

18:23 Speaker 7: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's cool.

18:26 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's It's like I said, I've never had

18:28 Speaker 4: really any any negativity you know, with it. Yeah, you know,

18:33 Speaker 4: dooring a live thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if

18:35 Speaker 4: I got bigger, you know, somebody be upset about it,

18:37 Speaker 4: you know, like you don't look like.

18:38 Speaker 7: That, right, right, you know whatever, Hey, uh no, I

18:44 Speaker 7: think that's cool. Like I said, I think that that

18:47 Speaker 7: that contrast is really cool. Maybe, but yeah, maybe, like

18:51 Speaker 7: if you showed up to an open mic with that,

18:53 Speaker 7: you might get you might get some some puzzlement from uh.

18:57 Speaker 4: Especially if I showed up with that the acoustic with that,

18:59 Speaker 4: you know right right, you know, not even playing I'm

19:02 Speaker 4: playing mellow just like I did there, you know.

19:04 Speaker 7: Right, yeah, no doubt when like, what was the idea,

19:10 Speaker 7: what was the genesis behind this, behind the image of

19:13 Speaker 7: grim Rock actually visually.

19:15 Speaker 4: It actually was a Halloween costume. Yeah, and she knows this.

19:19 Speaker 4: I tell a story all the time, and she's here

19:21 Speaker 4: to severify this whole thing. So it was actually a

19:24 Speaker 4: work costume party. We actually met at work, and you

19:27 Speaker 4: know it's probably not a you know, we met at work.

19:30 Speaker 7: And statistically that's very common.

19:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, So here we are a bunch of years later,

19:35 Speaker 4: we had this work party and went together. And I

19:38 Speaker 4: used to be I've said before. You know, I'm fourteen

19:40 Speaker 4: years sober now, but I used to be a heavy

19:42 Speaker 4: drinker before. And so I went to this party. I

19:44 Speaker 4: was already tanked up and I went with her looking

19:46 Speaker 4: like this, and I was running behind people. You know,

19:49 Speaker 4: I didn't even talk. I mean, it just it just

19:51 Speaker 4: made people upset, you know, like the whole thing like, oh,

19:53 Speaker 4: you know he's but you know, from there, I was like,

19:56 Speaker 4: I am going to use this one day, you know

19:58 Speaker 4: what I mean. I had no idea what I was

19:59 Speaker 4: going to and I used it for a couple of

20:01 Speaker 4: different calloweens. Yeah, and it modified, you know, I modified it,

20:04 Speaker 4: you know, a couple of different times to this gentlemanly

20:07 Speaker 4: grim yeah kind of look yeah, you know versus the

20:10 Speaker 4: halloweenish one, you know what I mean.

20:11 Speaker 7: Okay, but she'll tell you. Yeah, so it's kind of evolved.

20:15 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's definitely evolved.

20:16 Speaker 5: Yeah.

20:16 Speaker 7: Oh very cool. You said fourteen years sober?

20:19 Speaker 4: Fourteen years sober?

20:20 Speaker 7: You?

20:20 Speaker 4: Good for you.

20:21 Speaker 7: I don't think we've ever talked about that.

20:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think we have.

20:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean is that something you you talk

20:27 Speaker 7: about openly? Or oh yeah yeah yeah? How did you?

20:31 Speaker 7: How did you stop when you stopped?

20:33 Speaker 4: Oh well, that's that's an interesting story itself. Is it

20:37 Speaker 4: that one we'll have to talk about offline?

20:39 Speaker 7: Oh? Really?

20:39 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, it's really it's really an interesting,

20:43 Speaker 4: interesting story. And you know, yeah, some people know it,

20:46 Speaker 4: and I don't care that people really know it, know it? Yeah,

20:49 Speaker 4: just that you know we're work at now.

20:53 Speaker 7: Okay, you know what I mean? Gotcha? Gotcha understood? Understood? Yeah, No,

20:58 Speaker 7: good for you, though. How do you like how do

21:01 Speaker 7: you stay? I mean, if you can answer this, like,

21:04 Speaker 7: what's what's your biggest motivation to stay on the path

21:08 Speaker 7: that you are? As far as that and not.

21:10 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's been so long that it just

21:11 Speaker 4: doesn't even really bother me or ask me anymore.

21:14 Speaker 7: That's good.

21:14 Speaker 4: That's the thing, you know, but I've heard people, you know,

21:16 Speaker 4: in in some of the meeting rooms and whatever, say, oh,

21:19 Speaker 4: I was thirty years and fell off.

21:21 Speaker 9: You know.

21:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of bothers me, you know what I mean,

21:23 Speaker 4: thinking that, you know, thinking that that may be a possibility.

21:26 Speaker 4: But you know, I the way things are really, you know,

21:29 Speaker 4: I just don't I don't see that happening. Yeah, I

21:33 Speaker 4: don't know, you know, I mean.

21:36 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's well, I mean, everyone's different, and

21:38 Speaker 7: but it sounds like you, you know, mentally obviously you

21:41 Speaker 7: don't miss it, and so it sounds like you're probably

21:44 Speaker 7: just you know, I mean, again, everyone's different. You know,

21:48 Speaker 7: some people once they're done with it, they're done with

21:49 Speaker 7: it and that's it. And which is what it sounds like,

21:52 Speaker 7: you know, it sounds like is your situation. But yeah,

21:54 Speaker 7: you do hear people say, you know, I struggle with it,

21:57 Speaker 7: you know, decades every day. It's hard, you know. But

22:01 Speaker 7: but but it sounds like, but everyone's brain is wired differently,

22:04 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And it sounds like you're fortunately,

22:07 Speaker 7: you know, you just sounds like you don't even like,

22:10 Speaker 7: don't even think about it, right, it's just in your past.

22:13 Speaker 4: And yeah, you know it's crazy because you know, I

22:16 Speaker 4: used to be a really bad drinker. I mean I

22:17 Speaker 4: really was, you know, and it became really problematic, you know,

22:22 Speaker 4: and I wasn't willing to see it at the time. Yeah,

22:27 Speaker 4: but it's funny because you know, my my takedown was

22:30 Speaker 4: you know, I had a friend that I hung out

22:31 Speaker 4: with that we got loaded up and we played music.

22:33 Speaker 4: So when we went and played out and things like that, Yeah,

22:36 Speaker 4: you know, it was bar music, you know what I mean.

22:40 Speaker 4: And its crazy as I can play all these places

22:42 Speaker 4: now and not even think about it.

22:44 Speaker 7: That's good. You know.

22:45 Speaker 4: I can watch all these people fall over and hit

22:48 Speaker 4: their head and stuff, you know, coming out the door

22:49 Speaker 4: or whatever, and I just laugh at him or whatever.

22:52 Speaker 4: But no, really, you know, it just doesn't bother me anymore.

22:55 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, good for you.

22:57 Speaker 4: You know, you have to unwire what you had in there, hardwired.

23:00 Speaker 4: I guess there's something I don't know.

23:03 Speaker 7: I know a bit about it, but it's not a

23:04 Speaker 7: problem that I've ever had. But I work as a

23:06 Speaker 7: hypnotherapist and I help people too, mostly with an addiction it.

23:10 Speaker 7: I help people to quit smoking. But but but it's interesting.

23:15 Speaker 7: It's it's one of the things that is similar is

23:18 Speaker 7: if you talk to do you smoke no good good

23:21 Speaker 7: good for you? Yeah, if you talk to smokers, you know,

23:25 Speaker 7: it's kind of a similar thing where some smokers will

23:28 Speaker 7: tell you or ex smokers will tell you, yeah, I

23:31 Speaker 7: just I quit and that was it, and I just

23:35 Speaker 7: I don't miss it, and I feel so much better.

23:37 Speaker 7: But there's there's some people who will tell you. And

23:40 Speaker 7: this was kind of my mother's excuse why she went

23:44 Speaker 7: back to it. You know, she would talk about, how, oh,

23:47 Speaker 7: it's a daily struggle for me. Every day I have

23:50 Speaker 7: to resist the urge to smoke a cigarette, which she

23:54 Speaker 7: did for a few years. She did resist, and then

23:56 Speaker 7: eventually she went back to it. But but so much

23:59 Speaker 7: of that with with cigarettes. The psychological addiction is so

24:03 Speaker 7: much more powerful than the physical addiction, than the chemical addiction.

24:07 Speaker 7: And it's it's a you know, because people think, oh,

24:11 Speaker 7: you know, once the nicotine is in you, once you've

24:13 Speaker 7: been addicted to it, and those brain receptors are active

24:16 Speaker 7: and expecting it, that it's just that you're just stuck

24:19 Speaker 7: with that forever, and it's not true. It's but it's

24:23 Speaker 7: it's the psychological addiction, you know, right, right, but but

24:28 Speaker 7: it sounds like it was kind of like that with

24:29 Speaker 7: you with alcohol and then so once you were done

24:31 Speaker 7: with it, you were just done with it, and yeah,

24:33 Speaker 7: life is better without it.

24:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

24:35 Speaker 7: Yeah. Oh, Eleanor is in the Facebook live chat Eleanor Luna.

24:39 Speaker 7: Of course we love Eleanor from New Hampshire Underground and

24:42 Speaker 7: she says, we can't wait to see you tonight, grim

24:44 Speaker 7: Rock and thank you Matt Connerton, Thank you Eleanor. Yeah. Yeah,

24:48 Speaker 7: we haven't seen Eleanor in in a while. Actually, Eleanor

24:50 Speaker 7: and Andre, so that'll be great. Yeah, and of course,

24:55 Speaker 7: uh that I believe it's if I remember correctly, it's

24:57 Speaker 7: through Eleanor. That's how we met Mike McDowell from the spot.

25:02 Speaker 7: So because I know they do a lot of work together.

25:05 Speaker 7: New Hampshire Underground another great great venue in uh in Nashua.

25:10 Speaker 7: We should play I think we should play a song

25:12 Speaker 7: I was thinking about because you mentioned cast a Shadow.

25:16 Speaker 7: We should give that a spin and then we'll come

25:17 Speaker 7: back and talk some more. But tell us about that,

25:20 Speaker 7: and tell us about the video too. The video for

25:23 Speaker 7: Abyss for cast Shadow was a caster Shadow? Was that

25:26 Speaker 7: the one that the video?

25:27 Speaker 4: Uh No, Melvin Crockett did the video for abyss Oh

25:30 Speaker 4: for abyss Oh.

25:31 Speaker 7: Okay, well tell tell us about cast oh. I remember

25:33 Speaker 7: why cast a Shadow came up because you were talking about, uh,

25:36 Speaker 7: recording that differently than right.

25:38 Speaker 4: That was actually a rhythm Mouse studios. I didn't record

25:40 Speaker 4: any of it at the house.

25:41 Speaker 7: Gotcha, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, what was that like?

25:45 Speaker 7: Because you obviously this was a change in process for

25:48 Speaker 7: you recording this track. Yeah.

25:50 Speaker 4: So I've been in the stud years before. Yeah, so

25:53 Speaker 4: I knew the process generally. Yeah, it's been so long

25:56 Speaker 4: since I've been in there, you know, and working by

25:59 Speaker 4: yourself all the time. I'm pretty much you know, pushing

26:02 Speaker 4: playings like hey, you know, look at her and be like, hey,

26:04 Speaker 4: what's this sound like? Well it sounds good? Maybe it does,

26:07 Speaker 4: maybe she doesn't. I don't know. Honestly's telling me, you know,

26:09 Speaker 4: just to make me happier, not to be honest, but uh,

26:12 Speaker 4: but to go into the studio and actually have somebody there.

26:15 Speaker 4: It says, hey, do this again, Hey try this, Hey,

26:19 Speaker 4: let's try this again. You know, that extra little bit

26:23 Speaker 4: of guidance, you know, I really appreciate it from mister Bob,

26:26 Speaker 4: you know, what I mean. He uh, he was. He

26:28 Speaker 4: was fantastic, trying to put it all together, you know,

26:30 Speaker 4: and we talked a lot through it, you know, because

26:33 Speaker 4: I think I was the heaviest artist he's actually recorded

26:35 Speaker 4: at this point.

26:36 Speaker 7: Okay, oh wow, Well, like what kind of stuff was

26:38 Speaker 7: he used to? Uh, recording like this? More like singer songwriters?

26:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. You know, there's a guy that's

26:44 Speaker 4: there like all the time. His name is Ali Braver,

26:45 Speaker 4: and his stuff is really cool, it really is. But

26:48 Speaker 4: it's it's light compared to you know, my stuff. To

26:50 Speaker 4: the recording process, I'm sure it's a lot different.

26:53 Speaker 7: Yeah. So have you only done the one song with.

26:57 Speaker 4: Him at this point? Yeah, I was. I actually had

26:59 Speaker 4: some time schedule with them, but we had some things.

27:01 Speaker 4: There was a bunch of things that happened at the

27:02 Speaker 4: beginning of the year, and of course, you know, it goes,

27:05 Speaker 4: everything gets delayed and delayed, and then now I'm running

27:08 Speaker 4: back and be like, Okay, after I do these shows,

27:11 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back into the studio, you know kind

27:13 Speaker 4: of thing. Yeah, I'm hoping and get the rest of

27:15 Speaker 4: this done. Yeah, it took it took forever to do

27:18 Speaker 4: do g R five yeah. Yeah, there's actually two separate

27:21 Speaker 4: sets of mixes for that for a lot of those tracks.

27:24 Speaker 7: Really.

27:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the original mix for You Belong you see,

27:27 Speaker 4: I think is the one you might have played, and

27:29 Speaker 4: I think don't use the one you play is the

27:31 Speaker 4: original mix work. And those mixes were done at the

27:33 Speaker 4: house before Matt Kirshner got him, before I got picked

27:38 Speaker 4: up by Golden Robot Records, so I already had him

27:41 Speaker 4: released through Districtated, you know, over Spotify and everything else.

27:45 Speaker 4: So when I got picked up from Golden Route Records

27:49 Speaker 4: and you know, got involved with Matt Kirshner and stuff,

27:51 Speaker 4: I ended up sending everything to him. He remixed them all,

27:55 Speaker 4: and that's the mixes that are on the g R

27:57 Speaker 4: five for Golden Robot Records.

27:59 Speaker 7: Okay, gotcha, Okay, I did not realize that. Interesting. All right,

28:03 Speaker 7: Well let's give this suspend. This is cast a Shadow.

28:05 Speaker 7: If you're just joining us, grim Rock is here with

28:07 Speaker 7: us in studio. He's gonna be playing tonight at the

28:10 Speaker 7: spot in Nashua. Uh So, but here it is. This

28:13 Speaker 7: is cast a Shadow, and this is grim Rock.

28:34 Speaker 2: Stu Mount where they I'm doing.

28:51 Speaker 9: Man, they'll be bay sometimes away O move.

29:06 Speaker 2: Understand so mad that cast a shadow, the spere sounder

29:18 Speaker 2: that cost a shadow.

29:24 Speaker 10: M Brown, slow my brains in the space and.

30:23 Speaker 2: The mounds and.

30:28 Speaker 6: In all the stars stone the shade over me.

30:36 Speaker 2: There's no way.

30:38 Speaker 6: I'm not fine.

30:40 Speaker 2: It's just my pain. It's some kind You want the

30:45 Speaker 2: crass phone of the fake away. This days my money.

30:58 Speaker 2: They can't sell it's sound It cast.

31:30 Speaker 6: The cash, It cast.

31:39 Speaker 7: A shadow, that has cast a shadow by grim Rock,

31:46 Speaker 7: and grim Rock is here with us live in the studio.

31:49 Speaker 7: He's going to be playing tonight at the Spot in Nashua,

31:54 Speaker 7: opening up for the Melted Chapsticks and the show starts

31:57 Speaker 7: at eight pm ten dollars admission. It is all ages,

32:02 Speaker 7: which is very cool and we're excited about that. Oh

32:06 Speaker 7: I should mention the name of the show is Demons

32:08 Speaker 7: at the Disco live alt rock, lamb and funk music,

32:11 Speaker 7: mocktails and cava, late night bites, dance floor fun and

32:16 Speaker 7: door prizes. Very cool. So the Melted Chapsticks and grim

32:20 Speaker 7: Rock tonight again starts at eight o'clock. If you are

32:23 Speaker 7: listening live on Saturday, of course May thirtie at eight o'clock.

32:26 Speaker 7: It is an all ages show which is extremely cool.

32:31 Speaker 7: So and grim Rock is here with us in studio

32:33 Speaker 7: for the first time. So we've we've talked, we've had

32:36 Speaker 7: you on the phone many times, but it's great to

32:38 Speaker 7: finally meet you. And again I will just remind you

32:40 Speaker 7: if you are listening to the audio version of the show,

32:43 Speaker 7: please check out the video we're streaming right now on

32:46 Speaker 7: Facebook and YouTube and you know, you can always find

32:48 Speaker 7: it later. But grim is in all of his Uh.

32:51 Speaker 7: Is this what you've worn like since the beginning of

32:55 Speaker 7: developing this image or has that changed over over time?

32:59 Speaker 4: That's changed? Yeah, I guess that's more modified now than

33:02 Speaker 4: it was. You know, I had when I first did

33:05 Speaker 4: it as the Halloween costume. I got like a used

33:07 Speaker 4: suited it like a Salvation army, and yeah, we spray

33:10 Speaker 4: painted it and did all kind of crazy stuff with

33:12 Speaker 4: it to make it, you know, ghostly for costume, you know, right.

33:17 Speaker 4: But the face paint it's pretty much the same. It

33:20 Speaker 4: was white, but the little the circles were little, and

33:22 Speaker 4: I had a lot more stitches, you know, a lot

33:24 Speaker 4: more stitches on my mouth, you know, and and a

33:27 Speaker 4: lot of that got modified, you know. Now it's just

33:29 Speaker 4: the poor and the bigger eyes you know, but it's

33:31 Speaker 4: the same premise. Yeah, Like if you looked at the

33:33 Speaker 4: first picture, you look at this me and like, oh yeah,

33:34 Speaker 4: that's the same guy. It's just looks newer picture than

33:37 Speaker 4: the other one, you know, right. But of course now

33:39 Speaker 4: I'm just in the straight black and uh, you know,

33:43 Speaker 4: I'm just.

33:43 Speaker 7: Ask you this is from a practical standpoint. Do you

33:45 Speaker 7: get hot when you're on stage wearing that light?

33:48 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, And that's why I have two different sets

33:51 Speaker 4: of makeup for the for stuff, you know. I think

33:53 Speaker 4: we talked about this before too. I gotta thank Gene Simmons.

33:58 Speaker 4: You talked about Gene Simmons. I got thank Gens him

34:00 Speaker 4: is because I found a video of him making up

34:03 Speaker 4: his daughter and his signature face thing, and he had

34:07 Speaker 4: let people know what the makeup was. And it's actually

34:11 Speaker 4: like a clown white makeup, so it's a different type

34:14 Speaker 4: of makeup. And I was wondering how, you know, he

34:17 Speaker 4: got up there because when I was wearing this, because

34:19 Speaker 4: this stuff's the temporary one, you know what I mean,

34:21 Speaker 4: I'll put the heavier one on tonight because I'll be sweating,

34:24 Speaker 4: you know and stuff. Yea, but I was wondering how

34:27 Speaker 4: the heck, they did that, you know what I mean

34:29 Speaker 4: up there playing, you know, and you can you can

34:31 Speaker 4: see him like they're damp but nothing's really running. And

34:34 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, they do that, you know. But

34:37 Speaker 4: I saw that video and I ended up ordering Maron's

34:39 Speaker 4: the company. I ended up ordering a tub of this stuff.

34:42 Speaker 4: I was like, well, if this thing works, and I

34:43 Speaker 4: got a tub of it now, and yeah, that's what

34:46 Speaker 4: I used for the base cut, and let me tell

34:47 Speaker 4: you this stuff, it stands up. But I did know

34:51 Speaker 4: I did do something though. I left the black the

34:53 Speaker 4: regular because as I as I get warmed up and

34:56 Speaker 4: starts sweating and it starts to run, it started looks

34:58 Speaker 4: kind of cool, you know, because it's kind of alters

35:00 Speaker 4: my image through the night.

35:01 Speaker 2: You know.

35:01 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so I didn't order the other paint to

35:05 Speaker 4: make it so it stays.

35:06 Speaker 5: Yeah.

35:06 Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of cool to because I

35:08 Speaker 4: found that out at that metal fest last year in

35:10 Speaker 4: the middle of July. You know, the white was I mean,

35:13 Speaker 4: it was just stuck there and other stuff was just

35:15 Speaker 4: running off me.

35:16 Speaker 9: You know.

35:16 Speaker 7: Oh wow, Yeah, that's kind of cool. I wonder, though,

35:20 Speaker 7: do you ever have a have you ever been tempted

35:22 Speaker 7: to just not do the makeup.

35:24 Speaker 4: I have, but you know it's it's my image. Yeah,

35:29 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, especially when I play a

35:31 Speaker 4: long set and I'm gonna have that, I'm gonna be

35:32 Speaker 4: plugged in right right, you know?

35:34 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, that makes sense, that makes sense. But yeah,

35:37 Speaker 7: I can imagine it's tempting on a hot day to

35:39 Speaker 7: just I don't know, I was hot that day. I'll

35:42 Speaker 7: tell you that. Now, do you do you get an

35:47 Speaker 7: opportunity to play with a lot of different uh, because

35:50 Speaker 7: what you're doing is unique enough where I would imagine

35:52 Speaker 7: as far as playing shows, you fit in kind of

35:56 Speaker 7: with uh, Like, you don't necessarily fit in anywhere perfectly, right,

35:58 Speaker 7: because while you're doing is unique. But at the same time,

36:01 Speaker 7: sometimes that can be an advantage where you actually, like

36:04 Speaker 7: not fitting in helps you fit in more places. If

36:07 Speaker 7: that makes sense? Good? Does I mean have you found that?

36:11 Speaker 3: Like?

36:11 Speaker 7: Are there are there other artists in your area back

36:14 Speaker 7: in Pennsylvania who you play a lot of shows with

36:16 Speaker 7: because you just fit well with them?

36:17 Speaker 4: Or yeah, there's a few of them that I played with,

36:19 Speaker 4: you know, consistently, and then you know, I get to uh,

36:22 Speaker 4: I get to play all kinds of different places with

36:24 Speaker 4: all kind of different bands. Yeah, and you know there

36:27 Speaker 4: was some you know that I got in there and

36:30 Speaker 4: like I played at the Rock Room in Pittsburgh. I

36:33 Speaker 4: love that place. The bands that were in there were

36:34 Speaker 4: ultra heavy and I sounded like air supply compared to them,

36:38 Speaker 4: you know. But then I had other places I went

36:40 Speaker 4: to and I was the heaviest of everybody there, you

36:44 Speaker 4: know what I mean. Or you know, the we had

36:47 Speaker 4: a guy we played with. His name is you know,

36:49 Speaker 4: I don't know if you talked him right Silicon Kong.

36:51 Speaker 4: His stuff is so different that his stuff's different and

36:55 Speaker 4: my stuff's heavier. And then we had like Choshak you might.

36:58 Speaker 4: I don't know if you talk to them either. There's

37:00 Speaker 4: stuff like in between everything, there's stuff's gotten progressively heavier though. Yeah,

37:05 Speaker 4: and uh so, I mean it's just you know, Perisha

37:08 Speaker 4: Bulls are like more punky kind of you know. So

37:11 Speaker 4: I kind of fit in with a lot of different bands,

37:12 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, I can get plugged

37:15 Speaker 4: into anything, like you're just playing whatever.

37:17 Speaker 7: But that makes sense, that makes sense. Oh, we have

37:20 Speaker 7: h Jenny, the the Trolls have shown up. Yeah, I'm

37:24 Speaker 7: not gonna read their comments, but I don't. I don't

37:27 Speaker 7: mind the trolls, though, I think it's funny. We have, Uh,

37:31 Speaker 7: how do you even say that, Blacker Regie, I don't

37:36 Speaker 7: know how to say that. Who else do we have?

37:38 Speaker 7: Mister Taco sixty six? We know that name. We know,

37:43 Speaker 7: we know mister Taco. And Ben Gleck is in there.

37:47 Speaker 7: That's interesting, Yeah, we have. They usually show up. So

37:50 Speaker 7: I do a podcast called Tough Bumps about wrestling on Sundays,

37:54 Speaker 7: and that's where we usually see some of these people.

37:57 Speaker 7: But they're they're a there. There are a line with

38:00 Speaker 7: a podcaster from New York City who has been going

38:03 Speaker 7: around saying that my show is canceled, you know, the

38:05 Speaker 7: show that I'm literally sitting here doing right now. Oh yeah,

38:08 Speaker 7: he tells people, but he does that like every six

38:10 Speaker 7: months or so. He'll tell anyone who will listen that

38:12 Speaker 7: I'm not on the air anymore, all right, and that

38:14 Speaker 7: WMNH parted ways with me. And you know, meanwhile, I've

38:17 Speaker 7: been here for over nine years, and.

38:19 Speaker 4: Well, sister Runner, they can know that I actually sponsored

38:21 Speaker 4: a wrestler for a while. You did, yeah, oh yeah,

38:25 Speaker 4: talk about that. So a guy from New York. Actually

38:28 Speaker 4: name was Jay Flyer. Yeah, and he was an amateur wrestler,

38:32 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was running through like

38:34 Speaker 4: PCWA and and all the those kind of leagues. Yeah,

38:37 Speaker 4: and I actually sponsored him for a while. Actually the

38:39 Speaker 4: theme song for him and everything.

38:40 Speaker 7: Oh wow.

38:41 Speaker 4: And one of the shows I actually got to go

38:43 Speaker 4: to was a Hamburg PA and we went out there

38:47 Speaker 4: and I actually got to get in the ring with

38:50 Speaker 4: oh man name just slip my. He was a referee,

38:57 Speaker 4: a big name referee, Earl oh Earl. Yeah, okay, I

39:01 Speaker 4: actually got to get I guys, stand in the ring

39:02 Speaker 4: with them and hold the Intercontinental thing in my gear.

39:05 Speaker 4: I went like this and uh stuff and you know,

39:08 Speaker 4: and so that was pretty cool, you know that that happened.

39:11 Speaker 7: So yeah, oh excellent, excellent.

39:15 Speaker 10: Are you?

39:15 Speaker 7: Are you a wrestling fan just generally or you know,

39:18 Speaker 7: I like.

39:18 Speaker 4: The old school wrestling, you know what I mean. I

39:21 Speaker 4: don't really get to I don't really watch much TV

39:23 Speaker 4: as it is, you know what I mean. Yeah, so

39:25 Speaker 4: if something's on, you know, I watch it, but you know,

39:28 Speaker 4: I don't go of my way to actually watch it,

39:30 Speaker 4: you know.

39:30 Speaker 7: Yeah, just as well. Too much isn't good for you?

39:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just always bad news on a

39:37 Speaker 4: TV like, you know, at least at the end of

39:40 Speaker 4: the newscast they used to do like, oh we found

39:42 Speaker 4: a rescued a puppy and it was a happy story.

39:44 Speaker 4: They don't even do that anymore. Next hour we have doom.

39:48 Speaker 7: You know. Well, I think maybe we should play another

39:52 Speaker 7: studio track. I'm gonna find uh. I want to make

39:56 Speaker 7: sure I'm playing the right mixes, though, so let me

39:59 Speaker 7: let me find.

40:00 Speaker 4: Oh, you're fine with that. I was just like, yeah,

40:02 Speaker 4: because it was an interesting facet to that JORF. I've

40:04 Speaker 4: took forever to put together it.

40:06 Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh, I think I found Oh what is this stone?

40:11 Speaker 4: That's not even that's not even that's a demo track?

40:14 Speaker 7: Oh okay, because I didn't recognize the title. That's why

40:16 Speaker 7: I was wondering. Yeah, let's see. Oh is this it?

40:24 Speaker 7: What is this hashtag? NML? Oh that's a that's what

40:27 Speaker 7: what is this hashtag? NMS? The Grim tracks?

40:30 Speaker 4: Oh that's the podcast.

40:32 Speaker 7: Oh is that a podcast that you do?

40:33 Speaker 5: Uh?

40:34 Speaker 4: No, actually it is two guys. Are is the one

40:36 Speaker 4: guy in the UK and one guy in Canada and

40:38 Speaker 4: they do like an independent music podcast.

40:39 Speaker 7: Oh okay, Yeah, oh yeah, excellent. M yeah, I'm having

40:46 Speaker 7: trouble just finding.

40:48 Speaker 4: Okay, the City has a new mix.

40:51 Speaker 7: What is it city?

40:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's City twenty twenty four mix or whatever else,

40:56 Speaker 4: not new, but it's new or oh that would be

40:59 Speaker 4: probably something met evan. Yeah, it's actually off the R

41:01 Speaker 4: five ep oh. I mean uh Grimwork Radio ep oh.

41:06 Speaker 7: I found it? Yeah, yeah, oh cool. Yeah, let's give this. Yeah,

41:09 Speaker 7: I haven't heard this. Let's give this a spin. If

41:11 Speaker 7: you're just joining us, we do have grim Rock here

41:13 Speaker 7: with us live in studio. He is on tour. He's

41:15 Speaker 7: gonna be playing tonight in Nashua at the Spot. But

41:19 Speaker 7: I have not heard this. Let's give this a spin.

41:21 Speaker 7: This is grim Rock City, the twenty twenty four version. Here,

41:24 Speaker 7: it is.

41:48 Speaker 9: Road going.

42:02 Speaker 3: So way now the people come around now.

42:39 Speaker 9: Not be.

42:42 Speaker 2: You famthing now.

42:47 Speaker 9: To this.

42:48 Speaker 6: Why you can stay all the traffic, let's not go

43:02 Speaker 6: up the laugh the bustle.

43:06 Speaker 8: On the.

44:33 Speaker 2: Well.

44:33 Speaker 7: That is cool. That is City, the twenty twenty four version.

44:37 Speaker 7: That is grim Rock and he is here with us

44:39 Speaker 7: live in studio. He's going to be playing tonight at

44:41 Speaker 7: the Spot in Nashua. Really looking forward to that, along

44:45 Speaker 7: with Melted Chapsticks and now it's going to be very cool.

44:49 Speaker 7: Show is at eight pm, ten dollars cover, but it

44:52 Speaker 7: is all ages, no alcohol. Demons at the Disco. That

44:55 Speaker 7: is the name of the show tonight. I like that name.

44:59 Speaker 7: That be a good name for a band, Demons at

45:01 Speaker 7: the Disco.

45:01 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah.

45:04 Speaker 7: So yeah, that'll be cool. Oh so you were saying

45:10 Speaker 7: while we were off air, while we were playing that song,

45:13 Speaker 7: that the video because I really liked the video for that,

45:15 Speaker 7: because I love images of city skylines and all that

45:17 Speaker 7: always have, especially at night. And you said that was

45:19 Speaker 7: made by Lewis is a tivvy or tivy itv it

45:22 Speaker 7: is tivvy. He was on the show with us like

45:26 Speaker 7: maybe three or four years ago. It was definitely when

45:28 Speaker 7: we were at the old studio. Of course he's in

45:30 Speaker 7: the UK, so it was remote. But you were saying,

45:33 Speaker 7: he's deployed right now.

45:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's actually deployed right now, so.

45:36 Speaker 7: In in Poland. You said, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, I

45:39 Speaker 7: remember him talking about that that he was in the military,

45:41 Speaker 7: but also just such a such a good musician too.

45:44 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, really really like his stuff, and he was

45:47 Speaker 7: he was great to talk to. Now as far as

45:49 Speaker 7: as far as studio releases. What's next for you? Because

45:52 Speaker 7: you're always writing, right You're it seems like you're always

45:54 Speaker 7: writing and recording.

45:55 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got stuff. Fuck out kind of things

45:57 Speaker 4: they have like I couldn't tay an like only five

46:00 Speaker 4: starter tracks or something, oh my fish through. Yeah, and

46:03 Speaker 4: you know, trying to put like a good good list

46:06 Speaker 4: together for this cast a Shadow album, you know what

46:10 Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, it's actually gonna be a full album, okay,

46:12 Speaker 4: an the end and I'm gonna go out and I'm

46:15 Speaker 4: gonna go out on a limb. You know, I wanted

46:17 Speaker 4: d R five to be ten or twelve tracks, but

46:18 Speaker 4: I think this one is going to be the one

46:19 Speaker 4: that's going to be ten or twelve tracks. Okay, Yeah,

46:23 Speaker 4: I got I got, I got enough starters that I can.

46:24 Speaker 4: I can just go back and and look through and

46:28 Speaker 4: you know, shape a sound for the album, you know

46:30 Speaker 4: what I mean?

46:31 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, outstanding? Well, so, uh oh, time is short?

46:39 Speaker 7: Where should people go online to keep up with everything

46:41 Speaker 7: that you're doing?

46:42 Speaker 4: I would go to grim rockandroll dot com. I'll spell

46:45 Speaker 4: it out rock and roll a Andy, Grim rock and Roll,

46:48 Speaker 4: get dot Calm. You go everywhere from there, okay, and

46:51 Speaker 4: if you do the at symbol grim Rock and Roll,

46:54 Speaker 4: I'll spell it out. You find me everywhere that way

46:56 Speaker 4: on social media's and YouTube.

46:58 Speaker 7: All right, outstanding out and so again, just to remind

47:01 Speaker 7: everybody tonight eight pm at if you are listening live

47:05 Speaker 7: on Saturday, of course May thirtieth, Grim Rock opening for

47:09 Speaker 7: the Melted chap six at the Spot. It is in Nashua,

47:12 Speaker 7: New Hampshire. It is all ages, ten dollars cover and

47:16 Speaker 7: please come say hello. Of course we'll be there. Jenny

47:19 Speaker 7: and I will be there. Sounds like Eleanor will be there,

47:21 Speaker 7: so that's cool. Hopefully Andrea is there too, And now

47:24 Speaker 7: I'm sure it'll be a great and like I said,

47:25 Speaker 7: it'll be our first time there too, so it'll be

47:27 Speaker 7: it'll be wonderful to finally see what they've done with

47:30 Speaker 7: the place and what they're doing.

47:32 Speaker 4: So I'm excited. Look it looks super really excited about

47:34 Speaker 4: the menu too.

47:36 Speaker 7: Oh really yeah, yeah, like all kinds are really cool

47:39 Speaker 7: cockies in seasons. Oh okay, I'm excited about that. Oh good,

47:42 Speaker 7: very very good, excellent.

47:44 Speaker 8: Always check out the mosaic Are Collective. The next opening

47:47 Speaker 8: is on June thirteenth, the Human Canvas from five to

47:51 Speaker 8: seven pm, and that's actually going to be at our

47:54 Speaker 8: new location on Chesnut Street. We are expanding the gallery.

47:58 Speaker 8: We're really excited about this. Well, definitely come on down

48:01 Speaker 8: and check it out. And as usual, you can always

48:03 Speaker 8: keep up with my good troubles at Gencoffee dot com.

48:06 Speaker 7: J E N N C O F f uy dot com. Well,

48:09 Speaker 7: very good, and of course you can find me at

48:11 Speaker 7: Matt connorton dot com and also check out the new

48:14 Speaker 7: site Matt Connorton Unleashed dot com for even more content

48:18 Speaker 7: and the searchable archive of the show. You can find

48:20 Speaker 7: our previous conversations with Grimrock there as well. So, uh

48:25 Speaker 7: so we're looking really looking forward to tonight. This will

48:27 Speaker 7: be great, Grimrock, thank you again so much.

48:30 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you. I really appreciate you the opportunities that

48:32 Speaker 4: you've given me, and to be here is just it's

48:36 Speaker 4: like the cherry on top of the icing of the

48:38 Speaker 4: cake or whatever, you know.

48:39 Speaker 7: Oh, wonderful. Appreciated, absolutely personal, and if you miss any

48:44 Speaker 7: part of today's show, it'll be up in just a

48:45 Speaker 7: little bit at WM and H radio dot org and

48:47 Speaker 7: at my website, Matt Connorton dot com and of course

48:50 Speaker 7: Matt connorton Unleashed dot com. And I was saying about

48:53 Speaker 7: closing the segment with Haunted, What do you think? There

48:56 Speaker 7: you go. We didn't play that one yet, right, you

48:58 Speaker 7: do have a lot of music. Yeah, let's play this one.

49:00 Speaker 7: This is a good one. This is Haunted from grim

49:02 Speaker 7: Rock and uh, we'll talk to you a little bit later. Bye, everybody, we.

49:37 Speaker 6: Know that's day.

49:53 Speaker 9: Rod Roun.

50:01 Speaker 6: From Thanking your Man, Yes, say your thinking your man

50:57 Speaker 6: mons a young man