Robin Ross | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:00 Speaker 1: All I Want is a Lover by Robin Ross and

0:03 Speaker 1: the Mellow Dines. And let's see. I think we've got

0:05 Speaker 1: Robin with us via Microsoft Teams. Hello, Robin Man, how

0:09 Speaker 1: are you good, Harry, Welcome to the show. Yeah, love morning,

0:14 Speaker 1: Good morning. I love that song. I don't know if

0:17 Speaker 1: you I don't know if you were listening. And I

0:19 Speaker 1: was talking before we introduced it. I was saying, how

0:22 Speaker 1: it's a very Pennsylvania theme today on the show, because

0:24 Speaker 1: we also have grim Rock coming on later on the show.

0:27 Speaker 1: Later on in the show. I don't know if you

0:28 Speaker 1: know Grimrock, but he's from he's from your state. All right,

0:33 Speaker 1: he's gonna be uh right, that's right, that's right. Yeah.

0:37 Speaker 1: A lot of great a lot of great music comes

0:38 Speaker 1: out of there. Yeah. I love that song, and I

0:42 Speaker 1: really I really like the whole vibe and your sound.

0:44 Speaker 1: And I was listening to I was listening to the

0:47 Speaker 1: album of course. Uh, but this is not this is

0:52 Speaker 1: not on the newest album. Correct, This is a standalone single.

0:56 Speaker 2: This, Yeah, both we released this as a single and

0:59 Speaker 2: it's on an album. It's on the first album.

1:01 Speaker 1: Oh, it's on the first album. Okay, so it's not

1:03 Speaker 1: on Mindspace correct.

1:05 Speaker 2: It's not on mind Space, Okay, gotcha. First albums come

1:09 Speaker 2: On In, and there's a song called come On In

1:12 Speaker 2: on mind Space, so it's a We played a little

1:15 Speaker 2: twist with releasing the song after the album of a

1:21 Speaker 2: come On In, right, So this song is on that one,

1:27 Speaker 2: and we released it as a single when it got

1:29 Speaker 2: picked up by the Margo the television show.

1:35 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I wanted to ask you about that

1:37 Speaker 1: because that is kind of an interesting It is a

1:39 Speaker 1: twist the way you did it, but that makes sense

1:41 Speaker 1: because you've had some some success with this song. All

1:45 Speaker 1: I want is a lover landing on what is it

1:47 Speaker 1: on Apple TV Plus and Peacock Margo's Got Money Troubles

1:51 Speaker 1: as the name of the show, and the song landed

1:53 Speaker 1: in the show.

1:53 Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, I know it's on Apple. I'm not sure

1:58 Speaker 2: about Peacock, but I know it's on Apple.

2:00 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Yeah, that's that's amazing because anytime you can

2:05 Speaker 1: get I mean, it's so important and people outside the

2:08 Speaker 1: industry won't necessarily realize this, but if you have a song,

2:12 Speaker 1: if you can get it placed in a television series

2:16 Speaker 1: or in a film or anything like that, it really uh,

2:20 Speaker 1: I mean it can kind of change your world professionally.

2:23 Speaker 1: It can make a huge difference and introduce an audience

2:26 Speaker 1: to your music who otherwise would not, you know, necessarily

2:31 Speaker 1: be aware of it. It's so amazing, so good for you.

2:34 Speaker 1: That is wonderful that that has happened. And so obviously

2:38 Speaker 1: I assume the process was, and you know, where a

2:41 Speaker 1: lot of us who listen to the show, and if

2:43 Speaker 1: you're on the show where music industry nerds, I assume

2:45 Speaker 1: the process was. So once the song was you found

2:48 Speaker 1: out the song was placed in the series, then you said, well,

2:50 Speaker 1: we need to put this out as a single even

2:52 Speaker 1: though it's on even though it's on an earlier album.

2:55 Speaker 2: Is that correct, Yeah, we wanted to market it more.

2:58 Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense.

3:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's do you know what what's worked when you

3:04 Speaker 2: got to do what works.

3:06 Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. If something catches on that you weren't expecting,

3:10 Speaker 1: you know, you still got to go with it. Absolutely,

3:14 Speaker 1: it says here. So I haven't seen the full disclosure.

3:17 Speaker 1: I've not seen the television series, but it says here

3:20 Speaker 1: it was placed during a pivotal scene in episode two.

3:25 Speaker 1: And does this, you know, does this experience of having

3:29 Speaker 1: having a song appear in the show like that. Does

3:33 Speaker 1: that kind of does that change your approach to to

3:36 Speaker 1: songwriting and creating music at all? I mean, now that

3:38 Speaker 1: this has happened, do you kind of have an eye

3:40 Speaker 1: toward doing more of that, making music that you hope

3:44 Speaker 1: will be placed in a film or a series, or

3:48 Speaker 1: are you just kind of continuing on doing what you're doing,

3:51 Speaker 1: or how do you approach that now that you've had

3:53 Speaker 1: success with this song?

3:55 Speaker 2: No, not changing anything, Yeah, just right from the heart.

4:00 Speaker 1: Yeah.

4:00 Speaker 2: Uh uh. And and you know that's really your My

4:04 Speaker 2: best advice is the many you try to kind of

4:09 Speaker 2: adapt to things. You're you're you're not You're not You're

4:13 Speaker 2: not you anymore so to speak. So uh, I mean

4:17 Speaker 2: you are, I get it if you especially if they're

4:19 Speaker 2: you know, if you're if you're a conductor and they're

4:21 Speaker 2: paying you different story. Uh. But I would No, I

4:27 Speaker 2: would not change a thing. I would. I would just

4:29 Speaker 2: keep keep being free with with writing and and let's

4:34 Speaker 2: let the wind blow where it may, you know, and

4:39 Speaker 2: so far sometimes you never know what what hits. So

4:44 Speaker 2: I think I think being on the soundtrack Matt is

4:47 Speaker 2: More has had more of a kind of cool feeling.

4:52 Speaker 2: I guess you know from from you know, there's Dire

4:55 Speaker 2: Straits on it, there's Shania Twain, there's Billy Oh, there's

5:00 Speaker 2: there's even more people on it. I can't even I

5:03 Speaker 2: mean reap but McIntyre, Oh, this long list and then

5:05 Speaker 2: there's me, so that you know, it's like so so

5:10 Speaker 2: that that actually means a little bit from an artist perspective,

5:15 Speaker 2: as you know, it's kind of cool to be on

5:17 Speaker 2: a nice collective sound. So that's that had more of

5:22 Speaker 2: an impact on me than I think than the show. Actually, yeah,

5:26 Speaker 2: it can take. I mean, now we don't have albums,

5:29 Speaker 2: but I mean you know, like you know, if we

5:31 Speaker 2: pretend we had an album, that would be an album

5:33 Speaker 2: I put on the wall, you know, right, So you know,

5:37 Speaker 2: so that's kind of cool. I mean there's a lot

5:39 Speaker 2: of great movie tracks that you know, a lot of

5:42 Speaker 2: great soundtracks and people that are only in soundtracks. You know,

5:45 Speaker 2: to get back to Aerosmith and you know, there's a

5:48 Speaker 2: whole bunch of bands that do soundtracks and it's cool.

5:53 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I like what you said too about how

5:55 Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, having that success, it doesn't change

5:58 Speaker 1: your approach. You know, you're going to continue to do

6:00 Speaker 1: you know, make music from your heart? And I think

6:02 Speaker 1: that's I think that's smart because if you, as you said,

6:06 Speaker 1: you know, if you're chasing something, you know you're not

6:09 Speaker 1: gonna you're not gonna make music that You're not gonna

6:12 Speaker 1: be the best version of yourself as a musician and

6:14 Speaker 1: as an artist, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

6:16 Speaker 1: And the example I always like to go back to

6:18 Speaker 1: when I talk about this with people is, you know,

6:20 Speaker 1: if you think back to Seattle when grunge was about

6:25 Speaker 1: to be ascendant, you know what if Kurt Cobain had said,

6:28 Speaker 1: you know, I just you know, hair metal is big

6:30 Speaker 1: right now, we should try to sound like Motley Crue,

6:33 Speaker 1: you know, then you know that then we never we

6:36 Speaker 1: never would have gotten Nirvana, you know what I mean.

6:38 Speaker 1: So it's it's better to make music that you want

6:41 Speaker 1: to make rather than trying to chase something and and

6:45 Speaker 1: uh and fit in somewhere, because that that has a

6:48 Speaker 1: way of backfiring because then it's not authentic.

6:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you could actually have success with it,

6:55 Speaker 2: and then you're not that there's anything wrong with it,

6:58 Speaker 2: but then you you could be stuck with right for

7:01 Speaker 2: stuff that maybe you're not. You're not you know, you're not.

7:04 Speaker 2: Your heart's not in.

7:05 Speaker 1: It exactly exactly, you know.

7:08 Speaker 2: But if they pay you, then that's yeah, that's it,

7:10 Speaker 2: doesn't you know, that's not a bad thing either, you

7:13 Speaker 2: know what I mean?

7:14 Speaker 1: Right of course, Well, you gotta make a you got

7:16 Speaker 1: to make a living.

7:17 Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, you got to go to work.

7:19 Speaker 2: So if you can make some money with music, you know,

7:22 Speaker 2: that's always you know, that's less work that you have

7:25 Speaker 2: to do, so to speak.

7:26 Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. I'm really curious about your influences

7:30 Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, I listened to a song like that,

7:33 Speaker 1: and I listened to the mind Space album, and you know,

7:35 Speaker 1: at the end of our conversation we'll play something from

7:37 Speaker 1: the from the the newest album mind Space. But I'm

7:40 Speaker 1: curious about your influences because I hear a lot of

7:42 Speaker 1: different things in your in your music. But I also

7:47 Speaker 1: but I also love the production. And you know, I'm

7:50 Speaker 1: a I'm a recording nerd. I'm gonna actually, well, let

7:53 Speaker 1: me let me approach the question this way. So I'm

7:54 Speaker 1: curious about your approach to production because you've got you know,

7:58 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit low fie in the sense

8:01 Speaker 1: that it's not you know, it doesn't sound super slick

8:03 Speaker 1: or anything, you know, but it certainly sounds really good. Sonically.

8:07 Speaker 1: It sounds modern in the sense that the production is

8:10 Speaker 1: there clearly, but but without maybe some of the bells

8:14 Speaker 1: and whistles like you've You've got kind of a it's

8:16 Speaker 1: almost timeless really the sound that you have. And like

8:20 Speaker 1: I said, because I also listen to the album and

8:23 Speaker 1: so I'm curious about your approach to production and and

8:26 Speaker 1: also you know, influences and how you approach your music,

8:30 Speaker 1: because like I said, you're doing something that you really

8:33 Speaker 1: don't hear that much of anymore. But it sounds so

8:36 Speaker 1: so good.

8:38 Speaker 2: Thank you.

8:40 Speaker 1: Absolutely.

8:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well my approach is changing, Matt, really, yeah, it's

8:47 Speaker 2: it's it's probably evolving too. I'm working on my I'm

8:52 Speaker 2: working on an album now on my on my progressive

8:55 Speaker 2: side with Jack Smay's right now, we've got like another

8:58 Speaker 2: month for probably out and uh, I've used this album

9:04 Speaker 2: to really scale up the production side of things. I

9:08 Speaker 2: took some took some courses and we went back to

9:11 Speaker 2: like Square one kind of courses to learn what was

9:16 Speaker 2: what you know with prote I'm learning with well, well,

9:18 Speaker 2: I guess with digital any doll. But I use pro tools,

9:23 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I feel like I was a

9:25 Speaker 2: disadvantaged for probably the first couple of hour albums because

9:29 Speaker 2: of my lack of knowledge of pro tools, you know,

9:32 Speaker 2: just learning it sure, And now this album, I think

9:36 Speaker 2: I've got more the learning has gotten more into the

9:39 Speaker 2: production end doing you know, a lot more bust compression

9:45 Speaker 2: and parallel compression. These things of these nature make it

9:50 Speaker 2: so things are changing from uh, from the studio perspective,

9:58 Speaker 2: I do the you know. I'm I have a studio

10:01 Speaker 2: here in PA and I've had it for about five

10:04 Speaker 2: years now, four years, you know, and it started out

10:08 Speaker 2: as a laptop, you know what I mean, probably the

10:11 Speaker 2: same old story thirty years ago I had. I went

10:15 Speaker 2: to school for audio engineering and was in the music

10:18 Speaker 2: business and doing recording, analog recording, which I would really

10:23 Speaker 2: love to do again. But right, yeah, so I you know,

10:29 Speaker 2: I and I actually have used some of my older

10:32 Speaker 2: recordings and they still hold up. It's amazing. So I've

10:38 Speaker 2: had a learning curve with pro tools kind of on

10:41 Speaker 2: the first go around, and then like I got more

10:44 Speaker 2: into the how to you know, do your production in

10:47 Speaker 2: the box so to speak. I do have a nice

10:50 Speaker 2: SSL board that I go through for all my microphones,

10:56 Speaker 2: so I get I get the analog, you know, a grime,

11:01 Speaker 2: I guess you want to call it. I get that,

11:04 Speaker 2: then get that going to tape, and then if I want,

11:06 Speaker 2: I can use the s SL for another another if

11:10 Speaker 2: I wanted to do the mixing on it too. But

11:12 Speaker 2: I've gotten better at doing in the box and and

11:16 Speaker 2: actually prefer it, you know, with doing. So that's kind

11:21 Speaker 2: of what's new with the with the production end. So

11:25 Speaker 2: look forward to the stuff sounding. It should sound better

11:28 Speaker 2: every every album. And I think, yeah, if you go,

11:31 Speaker 2: if you if you progress through the last I put

11:34 Speaker 2: out six or seven six albums in the past four

11:38 Speaker 2: or five years, and I guess it's a good problem.

11:42 Speaker 2: But I still have two albums of material that I

11:44 Speaker 2: need to record. So I need to get better at efficiency,

11:50 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, which is a real

11:53 Speaker 2: big thing with with pro tools or any any kind

11:57 Speaker 2: of production you can it can drag on forever and

12:01 Speaker 2: that's not gonna help the song count. So you know.

12:06 Speaker 2: So it's like but it's it's the old age question

12:10 Speaker 2: quantity first quality, you know what, I mean, right, try

12:14 Speaker 2: to find a happy, happy groove sort of sort of

12:17 Speaker 2: in the middle. Yeah, maybe you could do an album

12:20 Speaker 2: every three months maybe or something like the record it

12:22 Speaker 2: and get get the production done in three months something

12:26 Speaker 2: like that, so you know to look that that'll be

12:30 Speaker 2: next month with and Jack Smays has an old album

12:34 Speaker 2: out too, so they're from the nineties, so we're more

12:39 Speaker 2: of a pre grunge nineties if you will. Sure, I

12:43 Speaker 2: don't know if you like that stuff like Pink Floyd Rush,

12:47 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Eppelin. I would say that that kind of

12:51 Speaker 2: those are my influences too, you know you're talking about

12:55 Speaker 2: and then the new the new stuff. I tend to

12:59 Speaker 2: be more of the writer, so you might notice that

13:03 Speaker 2: the songs get a little more spacey. And I work

13:08 Speaker 2: with Caitlin. She's one of the singers in the band,

13:11 Speaker 2: and she's a real good space cadet if you will,

13:13 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, you can travel and

13:18 Speaker 2: she has a wonderful voice. So if you hear you know,

13:23 Speaker 2: like follow or something like that on mind space, that's

13:27 Speaker 2: a collaboration between her and I just you know, you know,

13:31 Speaker 2: And those are the kind of things that I get

13:34 Speaker 2: feedback that people like, they like the you know, the

13:40 Speaker 2: theory of expanding your own mind, you know, and you know,

13:44 Speaker 2: we really can go anywhere we want in the not

13:48 Speaker 2: in the literal sense, but certainly in your mind. And

13:52 Speaker 2: and people should dream big, you know, you know what

13:55 Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's that's more of the the philosophy of

13:58 Speaker 2: the music. There. And then the other Jojo she likes

14:03 Speaker 2: to write about a party every time, so we have

14:07 Speaker 2: to control her.

14:09 Speaker 1: Understood.

14:12 Speaker 2: She's not really a big party here, but she she

14:14 Speaker 2: knows how to write it.

14:16 Speaker 1: Okay, fun okay, okay, all right. So now so when

14:20 Speaker 1: we talk about these other people, do they make up?

14:22 Speaker 1: Because it's Robin Ross and the melodynes? Am I saying

14:24 Speaker 1: that correctly? Melodnes?

14:27 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what.

14:29 Speaker 1: Does that mean? What is a what is a melo dyne?

14:32 Speaker 2: It's a melody. It's it's melody, a melody, and that

14:37 Speaker 2: just it's like a possessive name for melody. So one

14:42 Speaker 2: of my it's better than melodies, right right, So but

14:49 Speaker 2: that it's kind of that. And I mean I've used

14:53 Speaker 2: I used melodye in pro tools and that's where the

14:56 Speaker 2: name like popped in my head.

14:58 Speaker 1: Oh I gotcha, Okay, uh that.

15:01 Speaker 2: They're editing on Melodine and uh, you know that's so

15:06 Speaker 2: I forgot to give him, give him that name. Yeah,

15:10 Speaker 2: there is quite a slew of them, actually, there's it's

15:13 Speaker 2: almost like a I don't know, there's there's probably eight

15:18 Speaker 2: or ten of them altogether. But there's a hardcore five

15:22 Speaker 2: six and Wharton Tears, who is actually a pretty popular

15:28 Speaker 2: name in the more of the punk New York scene

15:32 Speaker 2: back fun City. Uh what's the name of the Yeah,

15:37 Speaker 2: And so he's he's a big influence on the percussion,

15:42 Speaker 2: like the writing, and he helps me do I guess

15:46 Speaker 2: we like producing, you know, like vocal producing. You know

15:50 Speaker 2: this harmony here, this harmony there, this vocal here, this

15:54 Speaker 2: vocal out cut this section out of this song. That

15:58 Speaker 2: that kind of producing. He's really really, really talented at

16:02 Speaker 2: it's I get to work with. And he's got a

16:04 Speaker 2: recording studio. He's the same as you and me as

16:06 Speaker 2: a recording nerd. And he's always him and I are

16:11 Speaker 2: like neighbors, but we're always mixing in our own studio,

16:16 Speaker 2: so we don't see each other much.

16:19 Speaker 1: Uh.

16:19 Speaker 2: There's Jojo. She leads sings and she probably lead rights

16:26 Speaker 2: as far as lyrics go. Then there's like Tony He's

16:31 Speaker 2: he's kind of a on the side. He plays percussion, sings.

16:36 Speaker 2: He's the mostly the guy the campfire and the moon voice.

16:41 Speaker 2: He's kind of got a Frank Sinatra Joe Cocker voice,

16:47 Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. And then there's Caitlin Albrett who

16:51 Speaker 2: who's got a great voice and full of energy and

16:55 Speaker 2: she plays the gambet and also some other percussions. She sings,

17:01 Speaker 2: so we got you know, I have Joe Torrez who

17:03 Speaker 2: plays bass and he comes from Florida to do gigs.

17:07 Speaker 2: So oh wow, Yeah, he works in he works in Washington,

17:12 Speaker 2: lives in Florida, so he'll come to PA for a

17:16 Speaker 2: weekend instead of going home to Florida one one weekend

17:19 Speaker 2: a month.

17:20 Speaker 1: That's cool.

17:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been, I've been, Yeah, I've been writing.

17:25 Speaker 2: Like he's in jack Smad's too. He's a bass player

17:27 Speaker 2: in Jacksonmady. He's also and I went to high school

17:30 Speaker 2: with him basically ten years old, so we're lifelong musicians,

17:37 Speaker 2: I guess together, locked forever.

17:40 Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, yeah.

17:41 Speaker 2: He's and he's he's super he's actually super awesome on

17:45 Speaker 2: the bass. Uh So those that's kind of rounds out

17:51 Speaker 2: the current Melodine staff. I've had like, uh, Emery Road,

17:55 Speaker 2: she's been, she'll come and go. She's another vocalist, she's

17:59 Speaker 2: on mind Space, and uh, there's a few others. There's

18:03 Speaker 2: t w and then there's others too. I've got people

18:07 Speaker 2: that do gigs with me too that they're not on

18:10 Speaker 2: the album, so that people will come up and just

18:11 Speaker 2: do Tina will sing. I have a piano player that

18:16 Speaker 2: comes up, so everybody, Hey, we got t shirts and

18:19 Speaker 2: everything for being a melodye. Yeah, you like joining a club.

18:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was curious about that too. To ask you

18:26 Speaker 1: about the live situation if you're if you're touring at all,

18:30 Speaker 1: and if you're if you're able to play these songs out,

18:33 Speaker 1: and I would imagine too obviously when you're playing them live,

18:37 Speaker 1: you know, depending on who you're playing them with, because

18:39 Speaker 1: you know, you do have some flexibility there. Do the

18:42 Speaker 1: songs change much when you do them live? Or they

18:46 Speaker 1: kind of strip down?

18:47 Speaker 2: You know?

18:47 Speaker 1: How does that? How does that work? How do you

18:49 Speaker 1: approach that playing these songs live?

18:53 Speaker 2: We'll play them as long as possible, Yeah, whatever version

18:58 Speaker 2: of it, as long as possible the version we play yeah, yeah,

19:04 Speaker 2: and uh, and we might extend them to like a

19:08 Speaker 2: solo or something like that, you know, like an end

19:11 Speaker 2: of a song. We just might keep the chords going

19:13 Speaker 2: and change it to a jam.

19:15 Speaker 1: Yeah.

19:15 Speaker 2: So those are the things that I like to do.

19:19 Speaker 2: We don't play out too much, but we do play

19:24 Speaker 2: usually local place called Fauci and we I don't know,

19:30 Speaker 2: we don't get We got like sixty seventy people there

19:33 Speaker 2: and they I think the biggest thing people say is

19:36 Speaker 2: that we're just really fun and entertaining like to We're like,

19:41 Speaker 2: you know, it's not like we're this real serious you know,

19:44 Speaker 2: nothing against Black Sabbath or anything like that, but no

19:47 Speaker 2: serious theme if you will know, no dark message you know,

19:53 Speaker 2: right right, No, no, no corny message either, you know

19:58 Speaker 2: what I mean. It was just kind of uh, we

20:01 Speaker 2: like to sing with you, you know what I mean,

20:03 Speaker 2: not at you, so to speak.

20:06 Speaker 1: Well that makes sense, Yeah, I like that. I like that.

20:08 Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, we have a lot of sing alongs.

20:12 Speaker 1: Yeah.

20:13 Speaker 2: Marsh We have a song called Marshmallow Blues that is

20:16 Speaker 2: a it's basically a marshmallow war between us and the crowd. Okay, yeah,

20:24 Speaker 2: it's quite quite a video that.

20:26 Speaker 1: The venues love that.

20:29 Speaker 2: Well, we we we do, we do, let we ask

20:32 Speaker 2: before we do.

20:34 Speaker 1: That's good.

20:36 Speaker 2: They really do clean up quite well. Okay, they're not

20:39 Speaker 2: as long as you get them right away. Right. So

20:43 Speaker 2: we have, you know, songs that people sing along with.

20:47 Speaker 2: We have songs that people throw like food fight, marshmallow

20:50 Speaker 2: kind of thing. You know. I think we have like

20:55 Speaker 2: a B fifty two vibe with the girls singers and

20:59 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuf stuff. And I think I'm a

21:01 Speaker 2: little like the guy from Bee fifty two is also.

21:06 Speaker 1: Fred Schneider.

21:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not like, he's no hero of mine, don't

21:10 Speaker 2: get me wrong, But people say when I sing, it

21:13 Speaker 2: sound like him. So what am I gonna do? You know?

21:16 Speaker 1: So, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't I don't quite

21:19 Speaker 1: hear it.

21:20 Speaker 2: But I mean I don't say too much though, you're

21:23 Speaker 2: noting me too much.

21:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

21:29 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a couple of songs that i'm i'm I'm

21:31 Speaker 2: I'm working on trying to do a little Beef fifty

21:34 Speaker 2: two ish with these girls. Yeah yeah, and you know

21:37 Speaker 2: that that was pretty there's nothing wrong with that stuff.

21:41 Speaker 2: So right, So, but live live would be great. I'd

21:46 Speaker 2: love to hook up with theaters. It's really what I

21:48 Speaker 2: would I don't really want to do bar gigs all

21:52 Speaker 2: over the place because I'm I'm constantly in the recording studio.

21:58 Speaker 2: But I would like to do if like a one

22:01 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty, two hundred and fifty or open up

22:04 Speaker 2: for you know, a bigger, bigger act at like Newton

22:08 Speaker 2: Theater and over in PA and Jery at any theater

22:11 Speaker 2: for that matter. Sure, I think theater is more of

22:15 Speaker 2: a you know, better way for us to We could

22:18 Speaker 2: sell tickets that way. You know, people know you're coming.

22:24 Speaker 2: And as long as we could stay somewhat local, I

22:27 Speaker 2: think we could we could handle it. So that's kind

22:30 Speaker 2: of where I'm at with the gigs. Okay, it would

22:33 Speaker 2: love to book some theaters, get some songs and get

22:36 Speaker 2: some success, and if that happens, I would love to

22:39 Speaker 2: book more theaters, if you know what I mean.

22:41 Speaker 1: So absolutely no, I can see that. I can. I

22:43 Speaker 1: can definitely imagine imagine you doing this in a theater.

22:49 Speaker 1: We should imagine too. There's a video for the song

22:52 Speaker 1: Campfire on the Moon, yeah, which I just which I

22:57 Speaker 1: just pulled up. Yeah, tell us about this video because

23:02 Speaker 1: I see, uh yeah, well literally, I mean you know

23:05 Speaker 1: the video is uh, you know matches the title of

23:09 Speaker 1: the song, Campfire on the Moon. What can you what

23:12 Speaker 1: can you tell us about this? The making of this

23:14 Speaker 1: and whose whose concept was? I mean I assume that

23:18 Speaker 1: it was your idea, right, the video itself, the content

23:21 Speaker 1: of it.

23:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, the concept of the song was my, my, my, my,

23:27 Speaker 2: my doing.

23:28 Speaker 1: Yeah.

23:29 Speaker 2: The video creation, uh is done by my wife, Tina,

23:35 Speaker 2: and she does all the videos.

23:36 Speaker 1: Okay.

23:38 Speaker 2: She's also my publisher, my agent, my partner in life.

23:43 Speaker 1: So excellent.

23:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary a publisher. If you're a musician,

23:49 Speaker 2: Oh is that is that?

23:50 Speaker 1: Who is with you on the cover of All I

23:52 Speaker 1: Want Is a Lover? The single the picture.

23:54 Speaker 2: There, No, that's Joe Gotcha. He's singing it. That's her song,

24:00 Speaker 2: I Gotcha. Okay, that's Joe. That's we call her Jojo.

24:04 Speaker 1: Yeah.

24:06 Speaker 2: No, Tina doesn't. She doesn't show her face too much.

24:09 Speaker 2: But but she'll uh, she's on a couple of tracks.

24:12 Speaker 2: She can sing some, but she does a lot of

24:15 Speaker 2: the all of the administration, handling all of like Roy

24:20 Speaker 2: be in my and you know, radio stuff even like

24:23 Speaker 2: this like with you, she's handling all the everything.

24:27 Speaker 1: Excellent.

24:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why. I mean, if you, if you're

24:32 Speaker 2: a musician, try to marry a publisher and then you

24:34 Speaker 2: get and then you split them. I mean, the publishers

24:38 Speaker 2: make as much money as you do.

24:40 Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. Yes, if you can own some some publishing,

24:43 Speaker 1: you're in good shape. And and that you know, that

24:46 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what we were talking about

24:47 Speaker 1: earlier with the placement of that song uh in the

24:50 Speaker 1: series and on that soundtrack. You know, that's uh, yeah,

24:54 Speaker 1: you know you get get that publishing. By the way too,

24:57 Speaker 1: as I'm looking at I'm looking at your video channel

25:00 Speaker 1: here on YouTube. I also wanted to ask you about

25:03 Speaker 1: because you have another project, Robin Ross and the t

25:07 Speaker 1: W Howlers, and I'm wondering how that differs from Robin

25:12 Speaker 1: Ross and the Mellowdnes.

25:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an EP. It's it's a little more folkadelic Americana.

25:23 Speaker 2: I almost say, like Americana and Rolling Stones, so you

25:28 Speaker 2: get a little I would be the Rolling Stones and

25:32 Speaker 2: t W would be the folk the Americana, So it's

25:38 Speaker 2: more like a I I think it's like a Stone's

25:41 Speaker 2: Rolling Stones and Americana kind of a blend. Yeah, uh,

25:48 Speaker 2: And that's like it. That's an ep. I wrote those songs. Uh.

25:52 Speaker 2: I think there's five of them on there, and there's

25:55 Speaker 2: I wrote three of them, but they're all collaborated together

25:58 Speaker 2: with tw So he would like I wrote the music.

26:02 Speaker 2: Maybe he wrote the lyrics or he wrote the A

26:06 Speaker 2: song and a lyric and I did a guitar on

26:09 Speaker 2: it or something like that. Sure, you know, So it's

26:12 Speaker 2: just a. And then we had people that are actually

26:17 Speaker 2: the melodines. Again we pulled from the melodine crew and

26:20 Speaker 2: they became howlers. Okay, so there are some melod that

26:26 Speaker 2: are only melodies, and then there are some melodions that

26:28 Speaker 2: are meladins that are howlerscha yeah. And tw is a

26:33 Speaker 2: he's a it's kind of a drifter guy travels around

26:36 Speaker 2: the country with his guitar and a backpack and he

26:43 Speaker 2: gets by and so he comes by every when it

26:46 Speaker 2: gets warm, like you know, spring and fall, so I

26:52 Speaker 2: guess that fall. We put together a bunch of songs

26:55 Speaker 2: and we recorded him and then they spent the you know,

26:58 Speaker 2: two months producing it and put it all together. So

27:01 Speaker 2: it's out. I mean, Melladions has another album out. Jack

27:08 Speaker 2: Smay says, a, I have a solo album out too.

27:10 Speaker 2: That's mostly instrumental, and that's just my name, Robin Ross

27:18 Speaker 2: And that's more of it's more easy listening Pink Floyd,

27:25 Speaker 2: Like I've had people say it reminds them of Pink

27:28 Speaker 2: Smells like Pink Floyd was exactly where they smells like

27:32 Speaker 2: Pink Floyd. I don't know what Pink Floyd smells like.

27:35 Speaker 1: I don't either, but yeah.

27:37 Speaker 2: I think I might like to know, but I don't know.

27:41 Speaker 1: Well, just well assume it smells good.

27:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a Russian blog that said that about

27:48 Speaker 2: not that album.

27:49 Speaker 1: Oh I wonder if something I lost in translation then.

27:53 Speaker 2: I don't know maybe, but it sounds great. Yeah, so

27:59 Speaker 2: that's more of You can hear some songs that are

28:02 Speaker 2: really deep rooted on acoustic guitar that are i'd say

28:06 Speaker 2: like either Pink Floyd led Zeppe on her combination of

28:09 Speaker 2: both from their influences. You know, just real coffee music

28:15 Speaker 2: if you will in the morning, yep, driving music if

28:18 Speaker 2: you gotta you know, you got like a long trip

28:20 Speaker 2: to go or something power in the cards. It's like

28:24 Speaker 2: that kind of music, if you know what I mean.

28:25 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, Well, very good.

28:31 Speaker 2: That's it. And Jack Smay's Jack Smays is We've got

28:36 Speaker 2: one coming and it's it's it's really heavy, I mean

28:40 Speaker 2: from a percussive side. Yeah, well we got some some

28:46 Speaker 2: dark like Jack Smays is the dark side of me,

28:49 Speaker 2: if you will. And the Melodions is like the other

28:54 Speaker 2: the the Yang I guess.

28:55 Speaker 1: The other side, gotcha.

28:58 Speaker 2: And there's stuff and between.

29:00 Speaker 1: So very good, very good, So Robin that this has

29:06 Speaker 1: been wonderful. Robin Ross. Like I said, I really like

29:09 Speaker 1: your sound or sounds, because you've got a variety of

29:11 Speaker 1: projects that all sound a little bit different, but really

29:14 Speaker 1: love what you're doing. I'm glad you're able to join

29:15 Speaker 1: us this morning. Where should our listeners go? Where's the

29:19 Speaker 1: best place to go online to keep up with everything

29:20 Speaker 1: that you're doing musically, whether it's uh, you know, whether

29:23 Speaker 1: it's Robin Ross and the Mellowdines or anything else that

29:25 Speaker 1: you're doing.

29:27 Speaker 2: Robin Ross music is dot com. That's a that's a

29:33 Speaker 2: really easy one. Yeah, just my name and music and

29:37 Speaker 2: then YouTube. There's a lot of you know, if you

29:40 Speaker 2: look up YouTube and just google Robin Ross, maybe put

29:44 Speaker 2: in video or something like that. I think we have

29:46 Speaker 2: like fifty or sixty videos up up there.

29:49 Speaker 1: You got a lot. Yeah, I'm looking at the YouTube channel. Yeah,

29:51 Speaker 1: you've got a lot there. That's great.

29:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks absolutely, So those those two are

29:59 Speaker 2: probably your I mean, YouTube music is good too, you know,

30:02 Speaker 2: if you want to like listen to the whole album. Yep,

30:06 Speaker 2: that's a really good one. But Robin Ross Music will

30:10 Speaker 2: take you to my website and then you can go

30:12 Speaker 2: you go anywhere from there.

30:14 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So one other question before we let you go,

30:17 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of put you on the spot here,

30:19 Speaker 1: but we're gonna close out the segment with something from

30:23 Speaker 1: mind Space. But what would you what would your choice

30:27 Speaker 1: be ideally that we play to close out the segment

30:30 Speaker 1: from Mindspace. I'll let you pick the song.

30:36 Speaker 2: I think we're going mind Space, right, I think Mindspace

30:39 Speaker 2: with the title track. Yeah yeah, yeah, that one's kind

30:41 Speaker 2: of where that's the whole theme of the the LP.

30:45 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's a great choice. I like that

30:50 Speaker 1: one a lot. All right, so we will that'll be

30:52 Speaker 1: our closing our closing track here. So Robin thank you again,

30:56 Speaker 1: Robin Ross. Of course, Robin Ross and the Mellow Dines,

30:59 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We'll let you go. We're

31:01 Speaker 1: gonna hit that track. But as you're releasing more and

31:04 Speaker 1: more music, we'll definitely have you back soon because you're

31:07 Speaker 1: doing a lot of great stuff, and I'm sure we'll

31:09 Speaker 1: talk to you again in the very near future.

31:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, the next couple of months. It would be great, Matt.

31:14 Speaker 2: When I'll reach out to you when I get the

31:16 Speaker 2: next ALP, which I'm expecting in you know, say, by

31:20 Speaker 2: July fourth, that's kind of my goal.

31:22 Speaker 1: Fantastic, all right, well we look forward to that. Yeah, yeah,

31:25 Speaker 1: keep us posted. We'll get you booked and we'll get

31:27 Speaker 1: you back on we'd love.

31:28 Speaker 2: That, all right, all right, Robert New Hampshire.

31:31 Speaker 1: Right, what's that?

31:33 Speaker 2: Take care in New Hampshire up here summer.

31:35 Speaker 1: Of here in New Hampshire. We sure are, we sure are.

31:38 Speaker 1: It's not very summary today it's cold and windy and

31:41 Speaker 1: rainy and uh, but it'll be summer soon.

31:44 Speaker 2: Next week, next week, there we go.

31:47 Speaker 1: All right, Robin Ross, thank you so much. We'll talk

31:49 Speaker 1: to you soon. Take care, thank you, got it all right?

31:52 Speaker 1: That is the great Robin Ross. The album is Robin

31:55 Speaker 1: Ross and the Mellow Dines.

31:56 Speaker 2: Uh.

31:57 Speaker 1: The the album is called mind Space, and we're gonna

32:00 Speaker 1: play the title track from Mindspace. I was kind of

32:03 Speaker 1: hoping he'd pick this one, actually, but I did want

32:05 Speaker 1: him to. I didn't want him to have the choice,

32:07 Speaker 1: but we might. We might play some more later in

32:09 Speaker 1: the show as well, but here it is. This is

32:11 Speaker 1: the title track from Mindspace from Robin Ross and the Melodines.