Jon Pousette-Dart | Matt Connarton Unleashed

0:01 Speaker 1: Better every day. That sounds good to me. And we've

0:04 Speaker 1: got John Possett Dart with us via phone.

0:06 Speaker 2: Hello John, Hey matt II.

0:08 Speaker 1: You doing good, good, welcome back to the show, and

0:10 Speaker 1: thank you for being flexible. We were going to do

0:12 Speaker 1: this via WhatsApp, but I'm having all kinds of WhatsApp

0:15 Speaker 1: issues today, so we're doing it old school on the phone.

0:18 Speaker 1: But you are going to be returning to Manchester, New

0:22 Speaker 1: Hampshire very shortly. Let's see June fifth at the Rex Theater.

0:27 Speaker 1: So it's wonderful to gives us an excuse to talk

0:30 Speaker 1: because I looked it up. The last time you were

0:31 Speaker 1: on the show with us it was all the way

0:32 Speaker 1: back in September of twenty four, so it's wonderful to

0:35 Speaker 1: speak with you again. It's been a while.

0:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's good. Thank you for having me. Let's

0:40 Speaker 2: just good and we're looking forward to coming back to Rex,

0:42 Speaker 2: which is a really nice room.

0:44 Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, it's a very nice place. If anyone

0:46 Speaker 1: hasn't been there, I suggest that they check it out

0:48 Speaker 1: and this will be a perfect opportunity to do so

0:51 Speaker 1: on June fifth at seven thirty pm. And it is,

0:54 Speaker 1: of course, it is the John Pussett Dart duo. Now

0:57 Speaker 1: is it the same duo? Are you performing with the

1:01 Speaker 1: same gentleman that you've been performing with for the last

1:04 Speaker 1: I don't know how many years now, right, Jim.

1:06 Speaker 2: It's been it's been quite a while. Yeah, Jim and

1:09 Speaker 2: I have been playing together for oh god, we've been

1:11 Speaker 2: playing it over twenty twenty five years now. It seems like,

1:14 Speaker 2: you know, we we he played in the band when

1:16 Speaker 2: we were the last you know, the band we had,

1:18 Speaker 2: which was quartet, and we've really kind of stripped down

1:22 Speaker 2: to a duo just because people really seem to respond

1:24 Speaker 2: to that setting, because it's just really intimate and organic

1:27 Speaker 2: and the song's really come through. So it's really enjoyable

1:30 Speaker 2: to kind of work, you know, in the in the

1:32 Speaker 2: duo setting, and we did. It's a really nice kind

1:34 Speaker 2: of intimate exchange, you know.

1:37 Speaker 1: Jim Chapdlaine. Am I saying his name correctly?

1:39 Speaker 2: Yeah? Jim Chaplaine. Yeah, we've been working together for many

1:42 Speaker 2: years now.

1:42 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now do you do you do the entire

1:46 Speaker 1: set with the two of you? Are are there? Is

1:48 Speaker 1: there anything that you do just by yourself or is

1:49 Speaker 1: it are all the songs sposed?

1:51 Speaker 2: We we do. We do the whole set together, you know,

1:54 Speaker 2: and we ranged this. What we do is I really

1:57 Speaker 2: kind of go through extensively all all the all the albums,

2:02 Speaker 2: the Capitol records. We kind of cover all the most

2:05 Speaker 2: known tracks that people no probably know the best, and

2:08 Speaker 2: and then also go through subsequent solo records and many

2:12 Speaker 2: individual singles that have been really since. So it covers

2:14 Speaker 2: a wide sot and a few kind of obscure covers.

2:16 Speaker 2: So really covers a wide swath of material. And uh,

2:20 Speaker 2: and Jim and I have been playing for so long

2:22 Speaker 2: together that there's just it's a really nice chemistry and

2:25 Speaker 2: we kind of have a good idea of what each

2:27 Speaker 2: other are is going to do, you know, very well.

2:29 Speaker 2: We're pretty pretty well attuned to each other where he's

2:31 Speaker 2: like a musical brother to me. So it's it's it's

2:33 Speaker 2: a it's a nice fit.

2:34 Speaker 1: Oh that's excellent. When you find somebody to play with

2:36 Speaker 1: who you have that with, you know, it almost becomes like, uh,

2:39 Speaker 1: you know, almost becomes like telepathy, right like intuitive it is.

2:43 Speaker 2: And also we share we've we've known a lot of

2:46 Speaker 2: work with a lot of the same people. You know,

2:47 Speaker 2: he worked with Al Anderson from n RBQ is like

2:50 Speaker 2: one of the great guitar players American guitar players, and

2:53 Speaker 2: we we toured for years within RBQ, and he knows

2:56 Speaker 2: worked with a lot of friends in Nashville that I've

2:58 Speaker 2: worked with through the years, and we all of our

3:00 Speaker 2: you know, original records there, and I was I was

3:03 Speaker 2: back in Nashville for many years living down there and

3:06 Speaker 2: writing and working, so we have a lot of mutual

3:08 Speaker 2: friends there as well.

3:09 Speaker 1: Now, it seems like you've been continuing to release new

3:11 Speaker 1: singles right and and video content, which is wonderful. Do

3:17 Speaker 1: you Is that kind of how you you see yourself

3:20 Speaker 1: continuing and definitely into the future, because obviously, you know,

3:23 Speaker 1: there are some artists who still insist on putting out

3:25 Speaker 1: full albums and even releasing vinyl, But but you seem

3:28 Speaker 1: to have settled into a nice groove doing it the

3:30 Speaker 1: way that you've been doing it, and the songs are great.

3:33 Speaker 1: You know, I love that song better every day. We'll

3:35 Speaker 1: play the entire song at the end of our our

3:37 Speaker 1: conversation today, and we did play right before I called you,

3:41 Speaker 1: we played can We Just Talk, which is also a

3:43 Speaker 1: wonderful song. But obviously, the the way that you release

3:46 Speaker 1: music has changed certainly from when you started.

3:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what I've been following kind of

3:52 Speaker 2: pretty much what's what's been going on as the mediums

3:54 Speaker 2: have changed. You know, when we when I first started out,

3:56 Speaker 2: you know, we were it was I was Wisconsin album

3:59 Speaker 2: radio was full out that we were releasing, and that

4:01 Speaker 2: was what would get reviewed, not even singles, but full albums,

4:04 Speaker 2: and that was what radio was was centered around. And

4:07 Speaker 2: as time has evolved, when's gone from the vinyl to

4:10 Speaker 2: the you know, to CD to cassette, and it's moved

4:13 Speaker 2: through all its mediums and through the way music is

4:16 Speaker 2: received through the portals. Now with streaming, it's the attention

4:19 Speaker 2: spans have kind of shrunk down to you know, five

4:23 Speaker 2: or ten seconds or less, you know, to get an

4:25 Speaker 2: attention span of people that turned into things. So it's

4:28 Speaker 2: it's become you know, because of streaming. I've found that

4:31 Speaker 2: I'm I put the last record I put out and

4:34 Speaker 2: you know a couple of records you just mentioned talk

4:36 Speaker 2: the last record I put out, I put a huge

4:38 Speaker 2: amount of effort into and and we I got together

4:43 Speaker 2: with Bill Warndick and put together the cream of the

4:47 Speaker 2: crop of the muscle shows and Memphis rhythm section for

4:49 Speaker 2: that down in Nashville at Ronnie Millsap's place. We worked

4:53 Speaker 2: really hard on that record, and I thought it was

4:55 Speaker 2: the best record I ever made, and it was almost

4:57 Speaker 2: invisible in terms of the delivery system the way things

5:00 Speaker 2: are now, because it just kind of went by and

5:01 Speaker 2: people didn't even know it was there. And what you know,

5:04 Speaker 2: you put a lot of work into an album and

5:06 Speaker 2: people catch maybe one cutter maybe too and they never

5:10 Speaker 2: get never really received the whole record. So I really

5:13 Speaker 2: address kind of the way things are kind of coming

5:16 Speaker 2: down through the portals of people are really listening to things.

5:19 Speaker 2: And so I've been focusing, like going back to the

5:21 Speaker 2: days of singles and putting out singles with videos regularly,

5:26 Speaker 2: so I don't wait, I don't I put them out

5:28 Speaker 2: so there's a constant stream of things coming rather than

5:30 Speaker 2: like waiting for a long time, putting out a release,

5:33 Speaker 2: seeing a few cuts get through, and then going back

5:35 Speaker 2: and putting a whole lot more work into another album. Right,

5:39 Speaker 2: So it's just a different way of kind of addressing it.

5:41 Speaker 2: It's I've just kind of been following what seems to

5:44 Speaker 2: be happening, and you know, these days there's not even

5:46 Speaker 2: CD players in cars. Right, It's come down to streaming

5:49 Speaker 2: and people are really hearing things via streaming. So that's

5:53 Speaker 2: it seems that that's kind of what is the medium

5:57 Speaker 2: at the moment.

5:58 Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's also you know, for an artist who has

6:01 Speaker 1: the material that you have, you know, spanning multiple decades,

6:05 Speaker 1: there's that that thing of I've heard Paul Stanley of

6:08 Speaker 1: Kiss has described it this way. When you've been around

6:10 Speaker 1: a long time, at a certain point, you're sort of

6:13 Speaker 1: competing against what you've already done. Because people who've been bands,

6:16 Speaker 1: who've been with you for a long time, they have

6:18 Speaker 1: certain memories attached and therefore emotional connections to to your

6:22 Speaker 1: earlier music. So then you're sort of you're sort of

6:25 Speaker 1: competing against that. But but obviously for you, it's really

6:29 Speaker 1: important to continue to create and evolve and put out

6:33 Speaker 1: new music. I mean, I assuming, I mean, it sounds

6:35 Speaker 1: like it's very important to you to do that.

6:37 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's just you know, I think, as

6:39 Speaker 2: I think all musicians and all artists you know, in general,

6:43 Speaker 2: I think are really involved in what they're currently doing,

6:46 Speaker 2: and you know, and are kind of moving ahead constantly,

6:48 Speaker 2: So you're you're kind of pretty much always ahead of

6:51 Speaker 2: wherever you know, whatever's out there is there, so you're

6:54 Speaker 2: kind of like moving ahead of you know, you're you're

6:57 Speaker 2: trying to keep you know, a pace of going what

6:59 Speaker 2: you're creatively up to. So so you know, I I

7:02 Speaker 2: just I feel like, you know, you I guess you

7:05 Speaker 2: could you know, just sit back and just you know,

7:06 Speaker 2: stay with the things you're doing, but you know, the

7:08 Speaker 2: the things you've done before. But I find, you know,

7:11 Speaker 2: I find most most people want to keep pushing ahead

7:13 Speaker 2: creatively and keep where you know, looking forward and moving forward.

7:17 Speaker 2: And so that's that's pretty much where I am. And

7:19 Speaker 2: you know, music has always been It's really been my

7:23 Speaker 2: first love. You know, it's been something I was connected

7:25 Speaker 2: to ever since I was a child, and so it's

7:27 Speaker 2: something that I you know, I constantly feel a need

7:30 Speaker 2: to to to try and find things, the things that

7:34 Speaker 2: are you know, to express about what's happening. And I'm

7:36 Speaker 2: always trying to kind of trying to find the silver

7:38 Speaker 2: lining on whatever's going on. So that's that's a constant

7:42 Speaker 2: right now.

7:43 Speaker 1: With the studio work that you do. Does Jim also

7:46 Speaker 1: play on those tracks or is that strictly.

7:49 Speaker 2: At its Yeah, it's it's quite a mixture. In other words,

7:52 Speaker 2: we've done we've done a few. The record you just played,

7:55 Speaker 2: we did there's on that. There's a mixture of cuts

7:57 Speaker 2: that there's things we did together on that record and

8:00 Speaker 2: the record the song you just Played Better every Day

8:02 Speaker 2: that was done with I wrote that with Gary Nicholson,

8:06 Speaker 2: who's an amazing writer in Nashville and he's from Texas.

8:10 Speaker 2: And on that track, I had Reese Whining from from

8:13 Speaker 2: Stevie Ray's Van Double Troubles on keyboards and there was

8:17 Speaker 2: that was a really nice section of guys and Pete

8:19 Speaker 2: Pat mcgoffin on guitar. So there's a here's a mixture

8:22 Speaker 2: of things, you know, it moves around sometimes. Some of

8:26 Speaker 2: the cuts came from things that I songs that I

8:29 Speaker 2: co wrote Nashville and recording Nashville and other things we

8:31 Speaker 2: did up here at Jim's Play. So it's a that

8:33 Speaker 2: that record, any Gravity, was a mixture of things. Talk

8:37 Speaker 2: the most recent record that you played, Can We Just

8:41 Speaker 2: Talk was was done at Ronnie Millsap's place with Bill

8:45 Speaker 2: Warndick has since passes what it was a brilliant engineer, producer,

8:48 Speaker 2: and we did that with just I just had like

8:51 Speaker 2: my dream, a dream team on that Reggie Young, who

8:54 Speaker 2: is my favorite guitar player, Bernonah who since passed, and

8:57 Speaker 2: I got Dan Dugmore and and David Hungate and Glenn Morrowing.

9:03 Speaker 2: I mean it was like the dream section of players.

9:05 Speaker 2: And I had to do duets with Becca Bramlett Bonding,

9:09 Speaker 2: Delaney's daughter, and Ronda Vincent and Joe l Mauser. So

9:14 Speaker 2: I had a really great you know, that was a

9:16 Speaker 2: really great record for me. I mean a record I

9:19 Speaker 2: really enjoyed making. And then since then, like I said,

9:23 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, I started moving over to singles and

9:26 Speaker 2: doing right now there's another I've just finished another song

9:31 Speaker 2: which we're doing actually a full, full, really film video

9:37 Speaker 2: with an Argentine director that will work on now on

9:40 Speaker 2: a song. I just finished that. So there's another film

9:42 Speaker 2: coming forth on a song I just completed. It was

9:45 Speaker 2: really written for this film that I had in mind.

9:48 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh that's amazing, that's exciting. That's very cool,

9:51 Speaker 1: very cool.

9:53 Speaker 2: Yeah.

9:54 Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you two about this? So

9:55 Speaker 1: the song put Your Gun Down that was originally called

10:00 Speaker 1: Ready to Fly? Is that correct?

10:03 Speaker 2: No, that it's just the record. No, it was. There

10:06 Speaker 2: was a release put Down Your Gun. It was always

10:09 Speaker 2: titled put Down Your Gun. It got re released because

10:12 Speaker 2: I wrote it was and it was I was released

10:15 Speaker 2: on a on a compilation for the Anti Handgun Coalition

10:17 Speaker 2: way back okay, and then uh and and and then

10:21 Speaker 2: it was re released on I was put Down Your

10:23 Speaker 2: Gun on the on the album, which was the last

10:26 Speaker 2: record that the original band re recorded in actually record

10:31 Speaker 2: that Marvelhead, Massachusetts and with the original band, and that

10:35 Speaker 2: track was uh, put down your Gun was was was

10:40 Speaker 2: originally written to support the anti handgun Coalition and I

10:44 Speaker 2: was going to do another version of it. But boy,

10:48 Speaker 2: there's a real division in the country about that issue.

10:50 Speaker 2: You know, there's there's there's there's things you have to

10:54 Speaker 2: take into consideration these days with what's going on in

10:56 Speaker 2: the country.

10:57 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, No, I was curious because I that was

10:59 Speaker 1: something that I didn't I didn't realize when we had

11:03 Speaker 1: talked the first time and I happen to see that,

11:05 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's very interesting because I didn't

11:07 Speaker 1: know about that. And you do always get into I mean,

11:11 Speaker 1: it is it is divisive, and you know a lot

11:13 Speaker 1: of people think that and this is not my personal view,

11:16 Speaker 1: but a lot of people think that you shouldn't, you know,

11:18 Speaker 1: if you're a musician or if you're some sort of entertainer,

11:21 Speaker 1: some people don't want you to take a stance on anything.

11:23 Speaker 1: It's like they think it's disappointing or it's frustrating to them.

11:26 Speaker 1: But I always say, well, regardless of who you are,

11:31 Speaker 1: whether you're a public person or a private person, whether

11:33 Speaker 1: you're famous or not famous, you have a right to

11:35 Speaker 1: your opinions, and you have a right to express them.

11:37 Speaker 1: And you know, even if I don't, even if I

11:39 Speaker 1: don't agree with somebody, I you know, I encourage, uh.

11:41 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always open to hearing. In fact, if anything,

11:44 Speaker 1: I'm always kind of curious what people think. That's part

11:46 Speaker 1: of why I do this sport.

11:48 Speaker 2: I support that one hundred percent. You know, I really

11:50 Speaker 2: believe all artists should do whatever they feel the importance

11:53 Speaker 2: to doing. I think speaking of politically is absolutely the

11:56 Speaker 2: the the something at all artists should be. Should be

12:00 Speaker 2: folks should, you know, deal within and within our own

12:03 Speaker 2: constitute what they feel and express it exactly as they

12:05 Speaker 2: see fit, right, And I think it's really important for

12:07 Speaker 2: artists to do that. And I think that's what art

12:09 Speaker 2: is about. And I think that people don't want that

12:11 Speaker 2: to be mixed into music, are just kind of obscuring

12:13 Speaker 2: a very important missing a point, or just wanting pure

12:16 Speaker 2: entertainment for your pure entertainment value, which to me is

12:20 Speaker 2: worth nothing. You know, you have to have part and

12:22 Speaker 2: soul and and and be saying the things that are

12:25 Speaker 2: important to you as an artist through every medium that

12:27 Speaker 2: you deal with, whether it's music, film, or books or

12:30 Speaker 2: anything anything with intellectual copyright. So yes, I can I

12:33 Speaker 2: completely concur that, you know, I mean, protest songs, anything

12:37 Speaker 2: that's all important, all important parts of of of of

12:42 Speaker 2: you know, of being expressing the integral things that need

12:45 Speaker 2: to be spoken about. And you know, some music is

12:48 Speaker 2: entertaining and some music has has has points to be made.

12:51 Speaker 2: They're all it's all part of an important message, and

12:55 Speaker 2: it's all part of music and.

12:56 Speaker 1: Art, right absolutely, And you as a listener you're free

12:59 Speaker 1: to accept or reject whatever whatever you want. You know

13:03 Speaker 1: the message and you know, and and art is subjective anyway,

13:06 Speaker 1: so it doesn't it doesn't necessarily even have to mean

13:08 Speaker 1: to you as a listener what it meant to the artist.

13:10 Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's funny too when people get when

13:13 Speaker 1: people get up tight about it too. It's like, well,

13:14 Speaker 1: you know, like rock and roll is supposed to be rebellious,

13:17 Speaker 1: and yet some people think that rock and roll should

13:20 Speaker 1: be about falling in line, and uh, you know, it's

13:24 Speaker 1: it's strange.

13:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I Agreeamply. I mean, you know, we're going

13:28 Speaker 2: through a very difficult time where we're you know, I mean,

13:31 Speaker 2: there's there's so many issues that are problematic right now

13:34 Speaker 2: with going on trying to decide what people should or

13:36 Speaker 2: shouldn't get, or you know, trying to censor with what

13:39 Speaker 2: is what is funny or not funny, or what's what

13:41 Speaker 2: you know, what is appropriate or not appropriate, And it's

13:44 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, it's it's a very you know,

13:46 Speaker 2: we're we're in we're kind of in a dark place

13:48 Speaker 2: at the moment with that. And I think that, you know,

13:49 Speaker 2: the kind of people need to really stand up for

13:52 Speaker 2: what they believe in and and and freedom of speech

13:55 Speaker 2: and the and the great thing about this country is

13:56 Speaker 2: people can say what they want to say, and they

13:58 Speaker 2: have the freedom to say it. There's nothing should be

14:01 Speaker 2: countering that. And so I'm a firm believer that all

14:03 Speaker 2: people have the right to to to to express themselves,

14:07 Speaker 2: how they see fit and live their lives how they

14:09 Speaker 2: see fit.

14:12 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm curious about this current tour,

14:13 Speaker 1: So are you are you going all over the US

14:16 Speaker 1: on this track or where do you go after you

14:19 Speaker 1: hit Manchester in June? Where do you go next?

14:22 Speaker 2: We've been mostly leaning on the Northeast because largely just

14:26 Speaker 2: because there's you know, there's a steady, steady following here.

14:28 Speaker 2: And I used to tour the whole country extensively, but

14:32 Speaker 2: in the times it's it's become in order to keep up,

14:35 Speaker 2: like a whole route to the country, you really have

14:37 Speaker 2: to keep up in cessant touring. And I slowed down

14:39 Speaker 2: a bit, and so some of it, some of the

14:41 Speaker 2: there's areas where I can go. But when you go

14:44 Speaker 2: out and you're trying to do isolated dates, let's say

14:47 Speaker 2: in the southwest or the northwest, or you know, when

14:49 Speaker 2: you get out there and you and you get on

14:51 Speaker 2: a plane, you're taking your guitars out and you're traveling

14:53 Speaker 2: long distances, it's really hard to make the whole picture

14:57 Speaker 2: the ends meet. Economically, you know, it becomes almost an

14:59 Speaker 2: economic equation to try and make all of it at work.

15:02 Speaker 2: So the Northeast has become a really kind of practical

15:06 Speaker 2: place for me to be touring right now the most

15:09 Speaker 2: for the most part, and we do, I do jump

15:10 Speaker 2: out to other areas sporadically, but most of these most

15:14 Speaker 2: of these things are scattered through UH that we're turning now,

15:16 Speaker 2: or through UH Connecticut and New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York, Vermont, Maine,

15:23 Speaker 2: you know, and in in this in this part of

15:25 Speaker 2: the country, and there's you know, we I get offers

15:29 Speaker 2: that commanded from various places, and I would like to

15:31 Speaker 2: be doing some things and in places that I used

15:33 Speaker 2: to do a lot of work in Colorado and California

15:35 Speaker 2: and parts of the south UH and the Southwest, but

15:39 Speaker 2: it becomes harder and harder to do that. And I

15:42 Speaker 2: can't tell you how difficult it is these days. I play.

15:46 Speaker 2: I travel two guitars, and and Jim travels with two guitars.

15:50 Speaker 2: And when you try and get your gear through an

15:54 Speaker 2: airbor and get your guitars on planes these days and

15:58 Speaker 2: get everything there in one piece with your equipment, it's

16:01 Speaker 2: no easy task. You know, It's like it requires a little.

16:04 Speaker 1: Bit of work, right absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, you know, gas

16:09 Speaker 1: is pretty expensive too, and that's another that's another issue.

16:13 Speaker 1: And yeah, touring has become a lot of a lot

16:15 Speaker 1: of artists have complained that touring over the past few years,

16:18 Speaker 1: even before you know this current spike and gas prices,

16:21 Speaker 1: of course, it's become really cost prohibitive. It's very, very

16:24 Speaker 1: difficult now.

16:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, you know the kind of the catch

16:31 Speaker 2: twenty two of that is it, you know, a lot

16:34 Speaker 2: of artists coming up, the younger artists think, you know

16:37 Speaker 2: that that kind of by uh kind of planting their

16:42 Speaker 2: their persona on the Internet and trying to establish themselves

16:45 Speaker 2: to that that medium, the dat alone is going to

16:48 Speaker 2: kind of give them, you know, put them on the map.

16:52 Speaker 2: And it's just it's it's just not so you know

16:54 Speaker 2: and other and in order to really you know, earn

16:58 Speaker 2: a a following, it has a roots. You know, you

17:02 Speaker 2: really kind of have to go out and hit the

17:03 Speaker 2: road in earnest and very you know, like for and

17:07 Speaker 2: for protracted periods of time to really gain a market share.

17:12 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it's. You know, I think

17:14 Speaker 2: that's never that's never ever stopped being true. And I

17:16 Speaker 2: think that's the you know, the real you know, the

17:19 Speaker 2: real barometer of really kind of getting through is by

17:23 Speaker 2: really being committed to the road. Yeah, and it's a

17:26 Speaker 2: harder and harder thing to do, like you mentioned, you.

17:27 Speaker 1: Know, it absolutely is absolutely one. Well again, I just

17:32 Speaker 1: want to remind people and if you're just joining us,

17:34 Speaker 1: of course we have John Posse at Dart with us

17:36 Speaker 1: because the John Pousse at Dart Duo is going to

17:39 Speaker 1: be at the Rex Theater on June fifth at seven

17:42 Speaker 1: point thirty. And there's no opener for this, correct John,

17:45 Speaker 1: it's just you guys.

17:47 Speaker 2: I don't think so if I remember correctly, last time

17:51 Speaker 2: we did not have an opener, so I think it'll

17:53 Speaker 2: just be usked. I think that's correct.

17:54 Speaker 1: How long do you play for? Is it a couple

17:56 Speaker 1: of hours or yeah?

17:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like you know, usually we do ninety or

18:01 Speaker 2: you know, or you know, or longer so you know,

18:03 Speaker 2: like or an hour YouTube, couple hours you know it

18:06 Speaker 2: really it's it moves, it bends and flows, you know.

18:09 Speaker 2: It depends on what people, you know, It really depends

18:12 Speaker 2: on the room and what's going on. But yeah, something

18:14 Speaker 2: you know. So usually we do one long set that

18:16 Speaker 2: goes on for goes on for a bit of time. Yeah.

18:18 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. That can be an advantage with not

18:20 Speaker 1: having an opener too, It kind of it tends to

18:22 Speaker 1: give you more time and flexibility with that. So that,

18:26 Speaker 1: Oh that's really good. So yeah, I encourage people they

18:28 Speaker 1: can go to uh well, actually if you go to

18:31 Speaker 1: the Rex. Oh sorry, go ahead, John, No.

18:34 Speaker 2: The Rex. Yeah, the Rex, which is a really nice room.

18:36 Speaker 2: It's the people run it, or it's it's a really

18:38 Speaker 2: good crew.

18:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And of course all your tour dates are

18:41 Speaker 1: up at whoset dash dart dot com, so I encourage

18:46 Speaker 1: people to check that out too, because obviously, yeah, June

18:49 Speaker 1: fit well, actually it's not that far away a couple

18:51 Speaker 1: of weeks, but no.

18:52 Speaker 2: That's coming at that. We're playing tonight at Arlow Guthrie's

18:55 Speaker 2: place in the Gutry Center and Great Barrington, mass.

18:57 Speaker 1: Oh no kidding, we're.

18:58 Speaker 2: Jumping something all over the place. Yeah. We used to

19:01 Speaker 2: do a lot of work with Arlow and I love Arlow.

19:03 Speaker 2: Oh wow, we'll be there tonight. But he has a

19:07 Speaker 2: wonderful church called the Dustry Center. Okay, we're playing there tonight.

19:10 Speaker 1: Oh very cool. I'm glad you mentioned that. Excellent, excellent,

19:13 Speaker 1: So that's tonight in Great Barrington? Is that what it's

19:15 Speaker 1: called great Barrington.

19:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing that tonight yet.

19:19 Speaker 1: Very good, very good, excellent. Well, John, I appreciate you

19:23 Speaker 1: being here with us again. We'll have to make sure

19:25 Speaker 1: we don't like quite so much time go by before

19:27 Speaker 1: we talk to you next, because you're always creating and

19:29 Speaker 1: releasing new music. So even if you don't have a

19:31 Speaker 1: show in the area, you know, whenever you have a

19:33 Speaker 1: new single or anything, that's a great excuse to have

19:34 Speaker 1: you on because we always really enjoy talking with you.

19:36 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you're able to be here with us

19:39 Speaker 1: today and again. I will remind people June fifth at

19:41 Speaker 1: the Rex Theater at seven thirty the John Whost Dart Duo,

19:46 Speaker 1: and at the conclusion of our conversation, I am going

19:49 Speaker 1: to play I'll play it all the way through this

19:51 Speaker 1: time better every day. But I really love this song.

19:54 Speaker 1: Can you before we do that, before we let you go,

19:57 Speaker 1: can you tell me anything about the inspiration for this song?

19:59 Speaker 1: Because I like this a lot.

20:02 Speaker 2: Uh. I you know, I'm glad you like that because

20:04 Speaker 2: I do too, you know, I was I wrote that

20:06 Speaker 2: with Gary Nicholson and Gary Nicholson people need to like,

20:09 Speaker 2: really explore more of him. He's he's just a treasurer

20:13 Speaker 2: and he's from Texas, and he's written so many great

20:17 Speaker 2: hits for Bonnie Raid, Vince Gil, Patty Loveless, uh uh

20:21 Speaker 2: b D King Doctor John. I mean, he's he's had

20:24 Speaker 2: just this. He's just an amazing uh laundry list of

20:29 Speaker 2: absolutely incredible songs he's written. And he's just a wonderful musician.

20:33 Speaker 2: And I loved writing with Gary, and we and when

20:36 Speaker 2: we after we wrote the song with him, he agreed

20:39 Speaker 2: that we produced it at his place, and so I

20:41 Speaker 2: did it his studio in Nashville. And as I mentioned,

20:45 Speaker 2: Rhys Winans, who is from Stevie Raisman Double Trouble is

20:48 Speaker 2: just an amazing keyboard player, and Tom Hambridge, who he's

20:52 Speaker 2: been doing Buddy Guy. He produced all the Buddy Guy's

20:56 Speaker 2: stuff now and is on drums. And Pat McLoughlin is

21:00 Speaker 2: an amazing guitar player. And joe elm Mosser, who's just

21:02 Speaker 2: astoundingly great singer from that she's one of my favorite singers.

21:08 Speaker 2: So it was like a really great section and Gary

21:12 Speaker 2: was part of that. And so you know, I urge

21:14 Speaker 2: anybody to look up Gary Nicholson because boy, he's got

21:18 Speaker 2: he's just got a just so much good music. He's

21:22 Speaker 2: he's been behind from years and years and years and years,

21:25 Speaker 2: so he's he's a real treasure.

21:27 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, I mean it shows in the results.

21:30 Speaker 1: This is a just a wonderful song. So we will

21:33 Speaker 1: we'll let you go, my friend, John Poussett Dart again

21:35 Speaker 1: June fifth at the Rex Theater, the John Poussett Dart Duo.

21:39 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll talk to you again soon and and again

21:42 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today. This has been wonderful

21:44 Speaker 1: as always, Matt, it's.

21:46 Speaker 2: Always great to talk to him. Thank you for having me.

21:48 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.

21:49 Speaker 1: You got it anytime, all right, Thanks John, take.

21:51 Speaker 2: Care, Okay, have a good weekend you too, all right.

21:55 Speaker 1: That is the great John Poussett Dart. And here it is.

21:58 Speaker 1: This is called Better every Day.