Matt Connarton Unleashed 2-3-24, second hour

0:03 Command guy, don't get soprely matself coming. Welcome back everybody. We are

0:43 well in our number two New mar Ow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we

0:47 are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM,

0:52 Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire. Also, of course, you can

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1:00 my website Matt Connorton dot com. For all your live streaming options social media

1:03 links, contact infosho archives, et cetera, et cetera. On today is

1:07 Saturday, February third, two thousand twenty four. We have of course,

1:12 Jenny is here at the news table as we call it, present and accounted

1:15 for, and Jesse Coffee is still with us as well. Hello. We're

1:19 still trying to figure out if we're related. I don't know yet. Yeah.

1:23 Yeah, it's a common name. Yeah, you know, coffee.

1:26 It's like seven or eight Jennifer Coffees in New Hampshire alone, you know,

1:30 are the we got buried for free in Kentucky? Yeah, Mountain. Oh

1:34 Yeah, that's actually it's actually satur when you think about it, because it's

1:38 it's only called coffee mountain because there's just a bunch of coffees buried there.

1:42 No, it wasn't originally a settlement and now it's a graveyard, and it

1:48 was a whole like town kind of a thing. The only thing that maintained

1:52 the name was the mountain and the gravestone. And well that there's land at

1:56 the top of the mountain that still belongs to the coffee family. Oh that's

1:59 why you can get buried there for free if you're a coffee. I don't

2:02 know that that would I don't know means free either. Well, I think

2:06 you still got to pay for the head plate. Well, yeah, you

2:08 don't get that part for free. But they can throw you in the dirt

2:10 for free. Just put you in a sack. I can do that myself.

2:14 Put in a what do you mean, I don't know timing. Just

2:21 wait outside for a while. I guess if you knew you were about to

2:23 die, just you just climb up there like old yellow. Yeah yeah,

2:28 get out by the tree. Well o ye to be shot? Oh wait

2:30 no, yeah, I'm still trying to bank on that biking funeral. But

2:35 I don't think it's legal. Yeah, we want Viking funerals. I put

2:38 you in a boat. You have cool person with a bow and arrow fire

2:43 flaming arrow into your boat, and the flames fire you just float out in

2:49 the sea and turn into ash. Yeah. See that would be the waste

2:53 of a good boat. But it's a great time. Really, really,

2:55 I think it would be wonderful. Absolutely. I like the Viking funeral.

3:00 I'd like to be thrown off of a boat so it looks like it was

3:01 a mob hit this thing. I'd be fun your block. Yeah, yeah,

3:08 really profit you know, I'm not going to suffer. I'll be dead

3:12 when I die. You got to get a couple of some guys to come

3:14 in and show up in the middle of the celebration of life, all dressed

3:17 in black shoot suits with black sunglasses and just stand there around the room looking

3:23 at everybody writing notes. There you go, there you go. Uh,

3:30 we've got Ricky Mapleton is going to be joining us in the third hour at

3:32 eleven am, and he's got some some really fun new excuse me, he's

3:37 got some really fun new songs coming up, and uh, if you'd like

3:40 to join us in the meantime, the studio line is open six oh three,

3:43 two five oh six oh seven six O three two five. Oh,

3:46 excuse me, you can see why I went and refilled my water. Yeah,

3:50 six o three two five six seven. You're a little stuck there.

3:53 My my throat is uh still adapting to uh doing this in the morning,

3:59 I think, yes, yes, ungodly hour of being awake. Of course,

4:04 you can also interact into opine in the Facebook live chat. You can

4:08 uh text us at six one seven four seven six. I'm on social media

4:13 at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt connorton dot com.

4:16 Uh, but uh, we'd love it if you give us a call at

4:18 six oh three two five six oh seven. By the way, Jay Bellow

4:23 from Chasing the Devil, we did play that track, Beautiful Nightmare, Such

4:27 a great song. Ronda was commenting in the Facebook live chat how much she

4:30 likes it. Jay said, I can't thank you guys enough for the spin.

4:34 Uh. Your support of local music doesn't go unnoticed. Much love,

4:40 thank you, Jay, Thank you much love to you. Yeah. Yeah,

4:42 such a great I met. I've known Jay for years and years and

4:45 years back when, of course people in the area remember Pergdi great band.

4:50 And let me tell you if you haven't made yourself a playlist of local artists.

4:55 You are so missing out. Oh. Absolutely, we have so many

4:58 incredible independent artists in our neck of the woods. I have a whole playlist.

5:01 It's just nothing but independent artists. Yeah. Yeah, every genre.

5:06 There's not a genre you can think of that the city doesn't have for you.

5:10 We saw a band that was alternative country. Is that like trapped country

5:15 or no. I don't know. It's like it's more like more like me

5:19 rock, Yeah, like rock country like I think so like southern rock.

5:25 No, they weren't Southern rock then like Americana like okay, yeah, Regals.

5:30 The name of the band was Regals. Yeah, really good. Yeah,

5:32 they're excellent band, excellent. We saw them at Mosaic Art Collective.

5:36 Yep. They played with ab No the Second, which is another artist that

5:40 I'd love for you to see. He's amazing. He does looping with a

5:43 viola. Oh that's that's cool. Yeah, and he's been on the show.

5:46 You guys would love to have him probably, he's really great. We

5:49 should speak a Mosaic Art Collective. Yeah. I mentioned what's coming up?

5:53 Nothing, nothing's coming up? Yes, Oh my gosh, I just messed

5:58 up what I was doing. I coming next week. On the tenth is

6:02 the opening reception for the All Hat Status Arts All Heart Status. Right,

6:12 I didn't say I said heart, You said hat? Not you did?

6:15 Didn't you keep saying hat? I don't know why you can stop looking at

6:18 you? All right? So on the February tenth, from four pm to

6:23 eight pm is the All Heart Status's opening reception art show. It's a wonderful

6:30 experience. Basically, this one is all about experiencing raw emotion and storytelling of

6:35 a day without Oh, I'm mixing up my stuff, sorry, guys.

6:40 The tenth is the opening of the All Heart Status reopening Reception. As I

6:44 said, February seventeenth is a day without love. And that's another musical performances

6:49 coming in. Brian Walker is going to be there. Why are you looking

6:55 at me? Funny? Why as I got mixed up? I got mixed

6:59 up? Well, I I thought you were going to say more about February

7:00 tenth, because that's a pretty significant event. Why no, I'm getting all

7:08 mixed up and blending the two together is what I did at the All Heart

7:12 Statuses show at the Mosaic Are Collective. One of my paintings is hanging on

7:18 the wall. Yes, I can't believe that. Yes, it's really crazy.

7:25 I'm so nervous about that. I'm really nervous about walking in there and

7:28 seeing it hanging among all the other artists and probably feeling like I don't belong

7:32 there, because seriously, the pieces that you see on those walls are just

7:36 amazing. So yeah, I'm really scared to be hung up there now.

7:43 I got more nervous after we dropped it off. I was looking around the

7:46 room, going, oh my god, my painting's going to be up with

7:49 all these other paintings in a gallery. So that's going to be on the

7:54 tenth from forty people from they can look, they can purchase, they can

7:59 look, they can purchase. Is going to be a lot of local artists

8:01 represented there. It's going to be a wonderful show. I highly encourage you

8:05 to come to the reception. You will not be sorry, very good,

8:09 very good. But there is a big event, of course, on the

8:11 seventeenth year as well, Yes, which is a Day without Love. Why

8:16 didn't they pick Valentine's Day? That would have been such a perfect title with

8:20 that one. I thought there was something else going on Valentine's Day? Is

8:24 that a day with love. Oh, I don't know, maybe yeah,

8:28 maybe I just I like being cynical. So there's going to be a performance

8:31 by Brian Walker on that day at the Mosaic Art Collective, so you will.

8:37 Also he's going to be giving fresh release of the latest album A Stranger

8:41 that you met before. He will take you on a sonically diverse journey through

8:46 gendres like folk, punk, emo, and shoegaze, highlighting the origins of

8:52 friendship within the independent music community. What is shoegaze? I was going to

8:58 ask the same thing. That's I'm not familiar with that word. I've recognized

9:01 all the other thing. I'm honestly, honestly not I'm gonna have to look

9:05 this up because I really don't know what that actually, okay. So,

9:09 shoegaze, originally called shoegazing and sometimes conflated with dream pop, is a subgenre

9:16 of indie and alternative rock characterized by its ethereal mix of obscured vocals, guitar

9:22 distortions and effects feedback, and overwhelming volume. I've honestly never heard of that

9:28 before. Now I have to check this out. Now, I have to

9:31 have you. Yeah, you've heard of that before? Yes, it's a

9:35 new word for me. Yeah, that's that's interesting. What do you think

9:39 of it? What do I think of that genre? I'm trying to think

9:45 is it overly? It says about overwhelming volume, like is it gonna pop

9:48 your ears? Volume? No? No, No, it's just I was

9:50 trying to think of an example. I mean, some Radiohead probably could be

9:56 as far as a mainstream example of what might veer into shoegaze radio head,

10:01 you know, kind of. I was trying to think of a better example.

10:03 But oh, Ronda says, Jen, your painting is amazing. Yes,

10:09 because you did post pictures. Thank you so much. I do.

10:13 I don't wanna be remiss to forget. Also on the seventeenth, Ella Beth

10:18 Voss will be performing acoustically at the Mosaic Art Collective, So there are two

10:22 musical artists that will be there that day. It definitely be a wonderful day.

10:26 Go to the Mosaic Arcollective dot com to purchase tickets and see upcoming events.

10:31 Also in the Facebook live chat, e Tack Durman if I'm saying it

10:37 correctly, better known to us as Kate Schimkey from Darling Hill, who has

10:41 been on the show another amazing musician from the area. She says, the

10:46 new station looks snappy. She really enjoyed that Jerry and the Scumbags song that

10:50 I played a unicycle. She was saying, this music is fire eighties vibes

10:56 all day long. That's it. I'm gonna rock some Spandex and empty a

11:01 can of aquinet as she was also asking you to share. Can you share

11:07 the playlist? Is it a Spotify playlist? The one of just local music?

11:11 It's actually an Amazon playlist. I think I can. I'll have to

11:15 go home and look at that. I think I can share. Yeah,

11:16 she was suggesting I also have one on YouTube, because does a lot of

11:20 these artists have videos as well? Yeah, so I have a lot another

11:22 one on YouTube? Yeah, all right, well, very good. Uh,

11:28 the studio line is open six oh three two five six seven, six

11:31 oh three two five six oh seven. There was something that's been in the

11:37 news and it involves Taylor Swift, but it's not you know, we don't

11:43 uh on this iteration of the show. You got to wait for the podcast

11:46 for the political talk. So no, we're not going there because are we

11:50 going to talk about Japan? Assuring people she can come home. But uh,

11:54 well, so there's this, uh, there's this other issue which is

11:58 not not not political, but the issue of And we've been talking about this

12:05 on the show a lot. Taylor Swift has been the victim of a lot

12:07 of people posting AI generated images really nasty ones. Yeah, and very very

12:15 wrong. This is kind of the the world we live in now, right,

12:20 So AI is completely into entertainment. Where do we draw a line?

12:24 What's okay? Is it okay for you to use AI to help write your

12:28 music? Is it okay to use AI to produce all the sound? Where's

12:33 the line? Like, where is it still the artist and where does it

12:35 become the machine? Because that's what I can't figure out. Is it okay?

12:41 Like I won't go on any of the AI writer stuff because I don't

12:46 want to ever have my writing conflated with using an AI thing to write it,

12:52 If that makes sense. Yeah, Yeah, we've talked about that.

12:56 This has gotten to the point now where X, of course formerly known as

13:01 Twitter the Verge, is reporting The Verge dot Com is a great website.

13:05 By the way, X is now blocking. Really Taylor Swift searches barely It

13:11 says, says your ex's blocked searches for Taylor Swift in reaction to a recent

13:16 trend of graphic AI fakes of the world famous recording artists being posted to the

13:20 site. Right now, if you search Taylor Swift or Taylor Swift AI on

13:26 X, you may see a something went wrong message. X head of business

13:31 Joe Benneroch acknowledged the temporary message meant to prioritize safety, according to the Wall

13:37 Street Journal, but it's very easy to get around, as we found out

13:43 when trying some searches after performers. Casey Newton posted about the block yesterday.

13:52 Rearranging the words in your search to Taylor AI Swift and instead of Taylor Swift

13:58 AIS Taylor AI Swift or simply putting quotation marks around Swift's full name both returned

14:05 results as of this writing. For example, even tacking another word onto one

14:11 of the block search terms gets results. Also, images still show up under

14:15 the media tab, even for the terms that are otherwise blocked. So where

14:20 does Online Entertainment draw that line? Right? Because X is kind of going,

14:26 oh, maybe, well, but they're not really blocking anything. They're

14:28 just doing a little fail good thing where they're only blocking those few words and

14:33 we all believe that artists should be able to you know, do and say

14:35 as they please. However, where do you draw that line when they're when

14:39 people are taking artists and making them into sexual fantasies, or taking their voice

14:46 and making their voice say things they never did, it says here. Meta

14:50 also seems to be addressing the issue, as both Threads and Instagram suggest quote

14:56 Taylor Swift AI if you start viping tailor into their search boxes, but neither

15:01 platform appears to show results. Instead, as of this writing, you may

15:05 see a message saying that the term quote is sometimes associated with activities of dangerous

15:09 organizations and individuals. Reports have said that Swift is considering legal action against the

15:16 sites hosting the images, which users said they preferred Microsoft designer to make.

15:22 Microsoft CEO Sadia Nadella, I'm sure I didn't say that correctly, called the

15:28 deep fakes alarming and terrible in an interview with NBC Nightly News on Friday,

15:33 and said he believes AI companies need to move fast to get better guardrails in

15:37 place. I don't know, you know, something that I keep thinking about

15:46 with all of this is the problem. The core problem is that the ability

15:54 to do this stuff, or is it the ability to do it so easily

16:00 and in large quantity. And what I mean by that is when we're talking

16:04 about, for example, these these graphic pictures of Taylor Swift, you could

16:10 already do that pre AI using things like photoshop. You know, everyone is

16:15 seen at one point or another photoshopped images that later turned out to be fake,

16:19 or with like maybe maybe we'll talk a little bit too about the George

16:22 Carlin lawsuit going on because his family is suing somebody over you know, a

16:30 quote unquote deep fake of a comedy special called I'm Glad I'm Dead but even

16:37 you know, and there was a There have been instances of people's voices,

16:41 you know, being AI generated fakes of people's voices used in robo calls and

16:45 things like that. But you could do that without AI too. All you

16:51 need is somebody who does a really good impression of somebody and just record it.

16:56 And everybody knows people who do impressions. So I don't think the issue

17:00 is so much what you can do with this technology. I think it's how

17:06 easily you can do it and in mass quantities, because it's stuff you could

17:11 already do. You could already make photoshopped images that look realistic. You could

17:15 already have somebody who does an impression of somebody just do an impression of somebody.

17:19 So I don't think the problem is new in that sense. I think

17:23 that just with this AI technology, it's just easier than it's ever been.

17:26 I honestly agree with that. Yeah, Like, this stuff's been out for

17:30 years. You know, I'm a child of the Internet. Yeah, there's

17:34 so even if x and Instagram weren't even a thing and it was some other

17:37 platform, there's gonna be a funnel. There's gonna be a place where it's

17:41 a dumping ground and you can go there and that's where it is. Yeah,

17:45 so this stuff's been around for a long time. Deep fakes used to

17:48 be a big concern for people, where they were like putting like Arnold Schwarzenegger's

17:52 face on Jim Carrey or like or I think there's actually one really popular video

17:56 of when Jim Carrey does impersonations because he does quite if You're good ones Clint

18:00 Eastwood and other ones. Yeah, they morphed his face into those people during

18:03 the interview, so it could change, so you watch his face change like

18:06 four or five different times. So this stuff's already been around for a very

18:10 long time. I don't think there's anything people can do about it. There's

18:14 gonna be paywalls. I think that'll start to pop up, and there's already

18:15 quite a few of them that do that because AI companies can do what they

18:19 want. But there's gonna be companies that go the other route that don't care.

18:23 And unless you like you can try and rule I regulate it, but

18:26 it's gonna be like just they'll switch the formula, they'll do something that will

18:30 change, or people will pirate that technology eventually, and then they'll just have

18:34 it and it'll just be out there in the world. It's like three D

18:37 printing, you know, like they've tried to curb that with certain things,

18:40 but it's become so popular at this point. The only thing that kind of

18:44 keeps people at that at this point is just the cost. Right, So

18:48 unless they make it insanely expensive or very incredibly encrypted and hard to pirate,

18:52 I don't think it's gonna go away. It is. It's a double edge

18:56 too, because you know, in some things it's funny and I like it.

18:59 Like when I think of the AI music, I I'm not upset about

19:03 it because sometimes it's really cool because there are artists that are gone, which

19:06 it can I think be a great segue for George Carlin stuff, where like

19:10 it's really cool to hear like a Frank Sinatra sound but he's singing like three

19:14 Days Great songs, but it's in his tone, with his sound and unique

19:18 feeling and stuff. I'm like, that's kind of cool or in like a

19:22 funnier sense, Like one of my favorite ones is a like Patrick Starr from

19:26 SpongeBob singing freakunne of leash from Corn. It sounds horrifically bad, but it's

19:30 so funny because you know it's never gonna happen that like maybe they do,

19:34 you know, do a surprise Corn appearance in the show, but it's it's

19:37 just it's never happened, and it's not something that anyone's gonna really get upset

19:41 or up in arms about. But then there's other aspects where I think it

19:45 was a drake in a weekend song that doesn't actually like they never actually did

19:51 a song together, but it sounds so damn good that everyone thought they did

19:55 and they didn't. There's no combatants for it. They can't they couldn't do

19:59 anything about right right. Oh, hello to a Carol Za Worwitz in the

20:03 Facebook clas chat. And also Mike pellapeda from Queen City Cabinet Treat, one

20:07 of our great sponsors here at WM and H, and of course Mike is

20:10 one of our co hosts on on Friday nights for Retrospection Radio. But yeah,

20:15 I mean, I don't know what you do to what you do to

20:18 stop any of this. I can tell you that, well, there are

20:22 limits though that some of the software can put on things. Because we've talked

20:26 about it, we talked, we've talked about it on the show, and

20:29 it came up at that event that we went to at Mosaic about AI and

20:32 yeah, where a number of months ago. This was it November, I

20:37 think the Mosaic Our Collective actually held information session where they had a whole whole

20:45 show about AI and art itself. Yeah, and I tried to use Dolly

20:49 three to create an image of for a YouTube thumbnail because we had done a

20:53 segment on the show talking about the Darryl Hall versus John Oates lawsuit and that

20:59 software where though when you enter prompts, it puts limits on what you can

21:02 do. And Carl At who ran that event that we went to, was

21:07 talking about how they've they've made the AI resistant to putting celebrities in violent situations.

21:14 Because I tried to make a thumbnail. I asked Dolly three in the

21:18 prompt, I said, I want a thumbnail of Daryl Hall and John Oates

21:22 in a boxing ring. Wouldn't do it. I actually had someone. It

21:26 was things AI generated stuff, so I you know, of course you're gonna

21:33 go all out. And I had a bunch of fun ones that was like,

21:34 I want like a one. I tried one for fun. I was

21:37 like, I want Olympus Git riding a Yoshi while eating candy, and it

21:41 gave me that, so I was like perfect. I'm like, all right

21:42 now I want Bill Gates fighting. Will not do anything with Bill Gates anything

21:48 anything. I was like, interesting, you know because Microsoft phones and soth

21:53 like that makes sense. Yeah, And then I tried doing all right,

21:56 I want Donald Trump and Joe Biden fighting because I thought that would be and

22:00 it wouldn't do it. I could get around it a little bit where I'm

22:03 like, all right, I want the forty fifth in the forty sixth president

22:08 hanging out with each other, and then it would kind of do things,

22:11 but at some point it caught on to what I was doing because it is

22:15 smart, and it would just not do anything more for me. So it

22:18 is interesting how you can do it, but you get some really neat stuff,

22:21 Like I have a wallpaper on my computer and I have an unhealthy obsession

22:25 with nomes, so I wanted a gnome war battleground fighting mushroom people, and

22:30 it gave me a pretty cool looking fantasy of these gnomes fighting against these mushroom

22:34 people fighting on like flowers and bugs, you name it, and so like,

22:38 in some ways it's really cool, and then in other ways it's it's

22:41 very limiting with that, Like the safeguards can also be a downside too,

22:47 because you're trying to do something unique and then it's like, now you're not

22:51 gonna be able to do that well. With the holl of Oates example,

22:52 the best I was able to get out of it. I got them playing

22:56 chess, okay, and then and then and then I said, I prompted

23:00 it make them look angry, and it did it. So in the image

23:04 they're playing chess and they both have angry expressions on their faces and nice and

23:08 it kind of looks like them kind of, but like anything violent stuff,

23:11 it wouldn't do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do that.

23:15 Now I can't do that on X to keep these deep fake pornographic pictures that

23:22 would keep all the only fans models off and that's not gonna happen. A

23:26 joke, but it's really annoying. Like I I'd like to follow. The

23:30 only reason I really have it is because I'm a huge gaming nerd, so

23:34 I follow a lot of the companies and stuff. I can go click on

23:37 a trailer or maybe I want to read patch notes on the game I like

23:40 to play, and ninety percent of the comments is just only fans crap,

23:45 and I'm not going there for that. I don't want to, you know,

23:48 I could be at work it's like, oh great, I wish that

23:49 wasn't there. Yeah, and I'm like that's awesome. So I don't even

23:52 use the app at work because it's like I don't trust. They're everywhere.

23:56 You can't get away from them or their logo. I would somewhere recently and

24:00 they had only fans t shirts for sale with their logo. That's big,

24:03 big business. Seriously, these guys are marketing hard. They must have taken

24:07 some lessons from Jene Simmons of Kiss Right. Hello to Chris from the band

24:15 Edgewise in the Facebook, speaking of local music, maybe we'll play an edge

24:18 wise shirt on yesterday. I was wearing manage Wise, sir, yesterday.

24:22 Oh yeah, I've ever noticing it absolutely. Let's see now the other thing

24:27 too, Now, you have you been following that to George Carlin, so

24:32 I I think, uh, actually you you brought it up and I had

24:38 only heard about it because I did kind of here. I heard the interview

24:44 with I believe it was his daughter, right, yes, yes, so

24:47 I heard the interview with her. I have not heard the special. I

24:49 definitely want to. George Carland's definitely like, for me, my favorite comedian

24:53 of all time. Yeah. The only one that's come closest to at least

24:59 his kind of op rational humor that I like now is like Bill burd But

25:02 that's like a side note. But I haven't heard the AI generated comedy bits

25:06 because I'm curious, though. I will listen to it at some point before

25:11 it gets taken down. I'm imagining it might, but I think it's gonna

25:14 take a while before it. Yeah, now it's on YouTube and I'm actually

25:18 looking at it right now. I'm gonna play the very beginning of it in

25:21 a moment. But cool. So it's called it's called George Carlin I Am

25:25 Glad that I Am Dead, And it's labeled as AI Comedy Special because George

25:30 Carlin, you know, we lost him a while ago. He's one of

25:32 my favorites. Yeah he might actually he might be. He might be my

25:37 favorite. I kind of go back and back and forth. Was your other

25:41 one? Uh? Sam Kennison is in there? All right. I like

25:45 that. I've kind of I've kind of a top five. But yeah,

25:48 i'd put uh, I'd put Sam in there. Sam's definitely my my five

25:52 two definitely, uh, and he's controversial, but Dave Chappelle would be in

25:57 my top five then, let's see. So yeah, so the family is

26:03 so basically the family of the estate of George Carlin is suing this YouTuber dudzy

26:11 who uh or I don't know what other content dudes he creates, but so

26:15 they Yeah, so they created using AI. They claim that the jokes and

26:19 everything was was actually written by AI, although there's some skepticism about that.

26:26 But I'm just gonna play at the beginning of it. I pre screened this

26:30 so I know exactly where the first swear is, so I know what point

26:34 not to go past. But I want everybody to listen very carefully because I

26:40 have an observation about this that I made to I made to Jenny before the

26:44 show. But just listen carefully to this audio. Here, here we go.

26:49 This is just like the first maybe thirty seconds of the special, Thank

27:03 You, Thank You. I like to start off with a heartfelt apology.

27:07 I'm sorry it took me so long to come out with new material, but

27:11 I do have a pretty good excuse. I was dead, so technically it

27:21 wasn't my fault. If you want to blame somebody, you're gonna have to

27:25 blame God. Okay, here's my observation. I don't think it sounds like

27:32 George Carlin. It sounds like it went with the earlier days when he was

27:38 when he came out the seven morg you can't stay on television right like that

27:42 era. That's the kind of vibe sound I'm getting because the the older comedic

27:48 specials he had more of a rasp and oh yeah like that, uh you

27:51 know your as your voice gets older. I think it sounds much more like

27:53 it's trying to blend those two together. Yeah, and that's why it sounds

27:56 weird. Yeah, I don't think like, here's the thing. So,

28:00 and the reason I bring this up is because you know the family is suing,

28:06 But I don't know who would hear that and think that that was actually

28:11 him. I don't, like, I don't know who would be confused?

28:14 To me, what do you mean? You don't know? To me,

28:15 it's right, But the title is do you think AI Comedy Special? And

28:21 it's called I Am Glad that I'm Dead? So it's obviously not really so

28:23 to me, it's obvious it's not him, it's obviously, but he's But

28:27 it's copyrighted material that they're taking. It's not copyright, it's it's it's AI

28:32 generate. I think it's going to fall under parody law. And I think

28:34 I think so too. AI stuff that has been like pushed on, almost

28:41 ninety percent of those things having gone through. The only one that's like tentative

28:44 is like that, like I mentioned that that weekend and Drake one that mine

28:47 that they might get somewhere with that, right, most of it all falls

28:49 under parody right. I don't think that you guys are right on this one.

28:52 And here's why. Years ago I worked on legislation involving the Salinger family

28:57 who are trying to protect their death's name because somebody was taking their dad's image

29:02 and putting it on things they didn't approve of, like toilet paper for example.

29:06 Yeah, all right, so, and it depends on what state you're

29:08 in as to what the law allows you to protect. So this is going

29:12 on in California. The state of California allows I believe it's one hundred years

29:18 that the family has the rights to that person's image, likeness and so forth,

29:25 because you know it's California, a lot of stars out there, So

29:26 yeah, they get one hundred years. So the thought process is that person's

29:30 lifetime plus one generation of their kids get to maintain control in you. He

29:37 am sure there is no protection like that. When you're dead. Anybody can

29:40 do whatever the heck they want to, which is why I worked on that

29:42 legislation. So this is all about protecting your image, your product, because

29:47 Carlin, he's a product, right, his jokes about God, you know,

29:52 there's nothing new coming up out of this thing about that George Carlin has

29:56 made jokes about God in every way, shape or form. I can't see

29:59 that. I can't agree that AI came up with that on its own because

30:03 it's classic Carlin. Well, yeah, but it's gonna draw from well right,

30:07 it's gonna And that's been a big part of the discussion about the family

30:10 owns the copyrights to his material and they haven't given permission to utilize him.

30:15 Well, isn't that the same thing as a band playing somebody else's music and

30:22 getting paid for it? That on this though, So I don't know if

30:26 you ever got to play around with chat etp before it. Oh yeah,

30:30 So I played around with it with one of my friends, and we were

30:33 trying to get it to be as creative as possible, like all right,

30:37 I want you to write me a song about it being sea shanty. And

30:41 it gave very like you know, hoist the sails, raise the swords,

30:47 drink your beer, like all all the all. It wrote that and like,

30:48 all right, I want a wartime song, but in the style of

30:52 a she's anty, And it did the same thing, but it reinvented the

30:56 lyrics. So it did come up with all of it on its own.

31:00 For three or four versus courus that you could repeat even a little spot for

31:04 a bridge solo if you wanted one, and it did it all on its

31:07 own, So this is not something I had to make it right, So

31:10 it's very very possible. And even in the world of gaming, like Skyrim

31:14 is probably one of my all time favorite games, it's a very popular game.

31:18 There's a mod right now that you can get for that game that adds

31:21 a follower where this person can fall you around in quest with you, and

31:26 it's completely AI driven. So you can actually use your microphone to talk to

31:30 it, and it will talk back to you as best as it can and

31:33 pretend that it's in the world and role play with you. So you can

31:36 ask like where you're born, and it'll name some city that's there, and

31:40 then you can continue talking to the AI and it will adapt and learn with

31:42 you as you grow in the game. So it's all it is very possible

31:47 that it was AI driven. So yes, it is classic Carlin. But

31:49 the AI has all of his stuff to pull from and then make it.

31:52 And but that's the thing. The AI is using other people's knowledge to create

31:57 its products. So what it only can do with whatever if I had an

32:01 AI computer, and I only gave it the basics of information. That's where

32:06 it's starting with, and it's going to draw from the information I gave it.

32:08 So if I feed the AI all a George Carlin and it develops this,

32:13 I'm still taking copyrighting material. I'm still drawing. Huh, Asia where

32:19 they don't have a lot of copyright protection. What's the US going to be

32:21 able to do about somebody that does that? Come on red hair ring,

32:23 red Harring. There's a whole other world. We're not there. We're talking

32:29 about the United States copyright law. Yeah, but where did Due posts this

32:32 other than the Internet? Well it's on YouTube. Yeah, Well, I

32:36 mean like from like they're gonna like are they going to claim it? Like

32:37 it's that so should they be able to make money off of only if Google

32:42 lets them make money. It has to get monetized. They could demonetize the

32:45 video and it makes absolutely no money, true, unless they have it behind

32:49 some kind of paywall of their own. We know it's already money for we

32:52 know it's already demonetized. Most likely it could be demoniced, like I don't

32:54 know if there's a way for the viewer to know if the video is demonetized.

32:58 Usually it's the YouTuber that knows that it's demonetized, and the in YouTube's

33:01 a very family friendly, friendly oriented spot. Now, even if you find

33:06 rough stuff, you can't yell, swear words, you can't show death,

33:09 you can't talk about stuff in certain degrees, they demonetize it. I actually

33:14 don't think this is monetized because when I there was no AD, I didn't

33:16 have to skip an AD or anything. It just plays. So they're not

33:19 making any money. They're just gonna get views, and that's not gonna do

33:22 anything for him. Uh. Kate said in the chat, it sounds like

33:24 the TAMU version of Carlin. The thing is, if you like that,

33:30 if you played that for me and you didn't tell me anything about it,

33:32 and you just said to me, Matt, who do you think this is?

33:35 I wouldn't know. I wouldn't think, oh, that sounds like George

33:37 Carlin. I might think it sounds Carlin as but that's not enough. But

33:40 I want to at some point, I'm I'm very curious. I'm wondering if

33:45 it grows on you as it goes, like, does it turn more into

33:47 his voice in your head? Yeah? They may have that effect. Yeah,

33:52 the bottom line is they didn't have any kind of permission to use his

33:54 likeness or any of his copyrighted materials, and they're claiming that some of his

34:00 some of what's in there is his copyrighted material. And it's possible there's specific

34:06 jokes that show up that that that that are actual Carlin jokes. I can

34:10 just tell you, like, for example, I did when I first started

34:15 messing around with chat GPT, I asked it to write a kiss song,

34:17 and it wrote, and it wrote, you know, it did the They

34:21 wrote a song and you know, just the lyrics obviously, and it was

34:23 it was kind of funny. There were lines in there like we we wear

34:27 our face paint and get ready to rock the stage and just kind of cheesy

34:30 stuff and it was fun. And then just for the hell of it,

34:32 you know, you can add prompts to get more specific, or you can

34:36 just click regenerate and just you know, let it go out of the second

34:38 time. So I just did that. I just clicked regenerate on the second

34:42 pass, all original lyrics, except this time the phrase I want to rock

34:49 and roll all night actually showed up in the chorus. Ah, And I

34:53 thought Okay, now you're plagiarizing yourself chat GPT, but it's because it's drawing

34:58 from actual lyrics and the information it has now an actual phrase. So to

35:01 your point about you know, you were saying that that the family is saying,

35:05 you know, there's this actual copyright in matiny that's very possible as well

35:09 as using his likeness's imaging. Kelly carl and his daughter was stated as saying,

35:14 quote a poorly executed facsimile cobbled together by unscrupulous individuals to capitalize on the

35:21 extraordinary goodwill my father established with his adoring fans. So one thing I kind

35:28 of look at with this though, like the end of the day, you

35:30 know, even if the lawsuit goes through and passes like that, it's this

35:34 is going to be a very interesting technology. Were like, let's say you

35:37 go into a museum and they're doing it's maybe it's a comedian museum. Wouldn't

35:42 it be wonderful if you could go in front of a holographic stage through and

35:46 it's George Carlin standing there wagging his finger at you, saying things in his

35:51 voice and his likeness, and you got just a glimpse of that history.

35:53 I think that's an awesome going to that's where it's already heading. Like a

35:59 couple of the museums in DC, they had holographic people standing in front and

36:02 but granted, this isn't like there's no way we're gonna ever have the voice

36:06 of like George Washington, but as people dressed up as like all these colonial

36:08 people and all that. But it's like they're moving across the screen that you

36:13 can't really see it, just it seems like they're actually there. So if

36:15 they do that with artists like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how

36:19 cool would that be to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and

36:21 there's Grand Master Flash and and then they're there with you, Gene Simmons,

36:25 and they're all hanging out with each other sounding exactly like themselves Like that.

36:29 That's the beauty of the technology, and it's and it will get there because

36:32 this is like our our stone tablet. It's gonna be one hundred years from

36:36 now. Well said it like that. That's kind of where I view it.

36:38 So you know, you can be upset. This was clearly made not

36:43 to you know, belittle George carlin Y. This is somebody who likes and

36:45 that's why he put it's an AI thing. And I think the title is

36:49 actually really clever. Yeah, I do think that is a George Carlond inspired

36:52 title. Whether the AI came up with the title or the ore dudes he

36:54 did, I think that's a I think that's a funny title. That's definitely

36:58 something I would click on. If if George Ellen could come back from the

37:00 grave and make a title, that would be a definite way to absolutely I

37:02 agree, I agree, and yeah, I'm definitely gonna listen to the whole

37:07 thing. But it's gonna be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be hard for

37:08 the family to prove harm if it was made out of love, especially right,

37:14 you know, if he really does feel bad, maybe he'll take it

37:15 down. But I think this is a person probably experimenting with AI. I'm

37:21 curious if that this guy actually has more than like this one long video or

37:24 Yeah. I haven't had a chance to learn what they like kinds come through

37:28 learn more about him, but I'm very curious. It'll also be interesting to

37:30 see what they give for a response. Now, the defendants haven't issued any

37:36 kind of statement in in response. They haven't put in their Oh what do

37:40 they call it. They haven't done their response to the lawsuit to the court

37:45 yet. Yeah, so we haven't seen anything from them, so it'll be

37:46 interesting to see what they come up with. Yeah, you know, as

37:50 an answer to this, do they have a legal leg to stand on?

37:52 Is it right? Well, here's the question for you guys. Is it,

37:57 in your opinion when an artist dies, should that it anybody fair game?

38:00 Or do you think they should be able to bequeath the rights to their

38:04 image to at least one generation. I don't know, only because I remember

38:10 years ago when I was a kid, there was the holographic display of Tupac

38:16 Shakur rapping and it had been years after he had died, and people were

38:20 really upset about it. But at the same token, there's not another rapper

38:23 that's anywhere close to Tupac's level of like greatness other than like, I mean,

38:28 you can reference Biggie, but obviously he's gone too, but that was

38:30 alive at that time. So it's one of those. And another one that

38:32 came up to you know, discrepancies aside Michael Jackson another one also the same

38:37 person that had a holographic thing done with his likeness and image and everything like

38:43 that. But he's considered the king of pop and it was done not out

38:45 of malice, but because it was cool to see somebody of his time and

38:50 greatness the display across the stage. So I think there should be a grieving

38:53 period. Like I think it would be too soon if, like, say,

38:58 some who's he just passed, Carl Robinson, Carl Weathers is that his

39:06 name? Oh? Yeah from Oh he paid a play a Paulo Creed in

39:10 the Rocky movies. Yeah, yeah, so he just passed, Like,

39:14 maybe not do a likeness with him right away, you know, give some

39:17 time, but a couple of years down the road. If it was something

39:20 done in kindness, why not, you know, as long as not somebody

39:23 doing it out of malice. I don't think people have an issue with like

39:25 the Taylor Swift photos clearly done out of malice. People don't like that.

39:30 Not a lot of people are a fan of that. But if it's done

39:34 in kindness, I don't think people are gonna have as much issue. Yeah,

39:37 yeah, it will be very interesting. I can see this kind of

39:39 going either way, but I think most likely, I don't think the family

39:44 is going to be successful in there. I think it's very possible they will

39:46 be successful because they're suing in California where they have more legal legs to stand

39:52 on. It makes sense, but I don't know a precedent, though there's

39:54 already precedent since well, I mean around around the rest of the states,

39:59 though, well, every state is different. Like I said, in this

40:01 state, the minute you die, nobody has anybody can do whatever they want

40:06 to with you. In California it's one hundred years. In some states it's

40:09 fifty or seventy five. So I'd be okay with it. Like myself personally,

40:15 I wouldn't be upset somebody managed to copy my voice and make something neat

40:19 of it. Okay? Why not? All right? Fair game? You

40:21 say that this is what I said when I was up there talking about it

40:24 across from the conquered state House as an adult store or there was, I

40:28 don't know if it's still there. There was an adult store. So the

40:30 minute the governor passes away, his face can show up in that adult store

40:36 on something very unokay, and the family would have no control or rights to

40:40 make that go away, right, I mean, you think that's okay,

40:45 and we'll put a clause in there. If you write a will that says

40:47 it's not okay, then it's not okay. But if you don't write a

40:50 will, fair game. But that's probably on the gay. Yeah, I

40:52 see, here's what we're talking about. The daughter has controlling rights over his

40:58 copyrighting material. Yeah, well it'll be we gotta we gotta wrap up this

41:01 segment. But it'll be very interesting to see where this goes. Conversation.

41:05 Yeah. Absolutely, So I assume you have to bail or I do want

41:09 to hear this. Uh, Okay, Ricky Mapleton is gonna be I can

41:14 stick around for a little bit longer, and then after that, I got

41:15 a high tail. Let's start making some boots. Okay, all right,

41:19 very good, very very good. Thank you, and uh so, yeah,

41:21 stick around. We've got Ricky Mapleton coming up next. And uh,

41:23 since I see him in the chat room, Chris h from Edgewise, I'm

41:27 gonna play, uh play a little edge wise for you and we'll get Ricky

41:30 Mapleton in here. That'll be a lot of fun. He's always fun.

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