Field Dispatch
Matt Connarton Unleashed 3-28-26 hour 2
Game Plan
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Speaker 7: All right? That is Katie's wart. The band is ek Schnock.
Speaker 7: We'll see if I'm pronouncing that correctly when we talked
Speaker 7: to our guests in a moment. But welcome everybody. We
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Speaker 7: show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday March
Speaker 7: twenty eight, twenty twenty six, and I believe via WhatsApp
Speaker 7: we have David Rausch from A K Schnack.
Speaker 6: Hello David, good morning, Matt and WMNH listeners. Great to
Speaker 6: speak with you, guys.
Speaker 7: I'm excited to have you on. This project is really interesting.
Speaker 7: So let's clear this up right off the bat, though,
Speaker 7: am I pronouncing the name anywhere close to correctly?
Speaker 6: You are absolutely close. You are totally perfect at K schnuck.
Speaker 6: You could not be closer. Perfect pronunciation at K schnock.
Speaker 7: Okay, wonderful, wonderful. Well, so let's get this out of
Speaker 7: the way.
Speaker 6: What does the name mean, in a combination of Latin
Speaker 6: and personal nonsense? Means hey, look at this. In Latin,
Speaker 6: the word eke means behold, and schnock is a word
Speaker 6: I made up when I was a young dude that
Speaker 6: means whatever you want it to. So ek schnack means
Speaker 6: hey look at this, or hey check this out.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, oh wonderful. So yeah, I'm really curious to
Speaker 7: ask you about this. I mean, what, how do you
Speaker 7: describe How do you describe your music? Because this is
Speaker 7: not something that fits into a particular genre. Obviously, you
Speaker 7: know there's elements of metal. When you hear the guitars,
Speaker 7: you know that becomes clear. The lyrics are are very unique,
Speaker 7: and is that you singing are you the lead vocalist.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that you know, I want it to sound
Speaker 6: like a weird, scary old lady. So we just pitched
Speaker 6: my voice up a little bit, but that is me.
Speaker 6: So yeah. And the music I think of it as
Speaker 6: on art rocks style that has three basic qualities, Like
Speaker 6: you said, heavy music, there's you know, also pop music
Speaker 6: broadly defined, and classical music too. It's kind of a
Speaker 6: nephew of Frank Zappa or Queen. So it's an art
Speaker 6: music with those three main qualities heavy music, pop music,
Speaker 6: and classical music.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, And yeah, so you're really genre blurring there,
Speaker 7: which is cool because you know, it gives you It
Speaker 7: gives you an ability to sound like something that's unlike
Speaker 7: anything else anyone has ever done. I honestly can't think
Speaker 7: of anything that sounds quite like this project. And is
Speaker 7: that important to you? I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 7: if you've done other projects that were more sort of
Speaker 7: mainstream for lack of a better word, But is it
Speaker 7: important to you as an artist to really do something
Speaker 7: that's unique and to stand out and not just be
Speaker 7: kind of following what ever whatever trends are out there, not.
Speaker 6: In its own sake. I don't have a goal to
Speaker 6: do that for itself. But I've always struggled to keep
Speaker 6: my creative instincts in one vein, I remember that actually
Speaker 6: a band I love, I don't know them super well,
Speaker 6: but but what I've heard of them I really love
Speaker 6: Will Go. I think the bassist in an interview said
Speaker 6: something like, you know what will Go albums will sound
Speaker 6: like we have our our universe that we work in
Speaker 6: and we're going to stay there, and you know, we'll
Speaker 6: we'll we'll push its boundaries here and there.
Speaker 8: But but you know, the the the things we do
Speaker 8: broadly speaking, which is totally respectable, totally that's that's great.
Speaker 8: If that's the way you know, you end up becoming
Speaker 8: creative world. For me personally, I've never been able to
Speaker 8: exhaust my interests as a songwriter by staying in one genre.
Speaker 8: So I jump around from one genre to another, like
Speaker 8: I'm playing with boats in a lake, and you know,
Speaker 8: jumping in one boat and then letting a friend capsize it,
Speaker 8: and then jumping in their boat and capsizing theirs. I
Speaker 8: look at them more like that instead of a space
Speaker 8: that if I leave my spacesuit, my eyes explode or
Speaker 8: my blood, vessels burst, or whatever happens in that circumstance.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it sounds like you would kind of get
Speaker 7: bored if you were in a project where it was
Speaker 7: like you had you had certain parameters that Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: always interesting too. When artists they obviously as they become
Speaker 7: more successful and they kind of develop a formula for
Speaker 7: what seems to work for them commercially, and that does
Speaker 7: create sort of those parameters, and some artists can push
Speaker 7: the boundaries. Some artists have to stay locked in, you know,
Speaker 7: like if you know ACDC, just as a random example
Speaker 7: of that, right, you know, they've got a formula, they've
Speaker 7: got a template, and if they venture out of that,
Speaker 7: people are going to be very confused. But it sounds
Speaker 7: like it must be very exciting to approach it the
Speaker 7: way that you do it, And I'm curious kind of
Speaker 7: drilling down on that with this project. Do you go
Speaker 7: when you do this your approach to creating these songs,
Speaker 7: do you consciously think I have to do something that's different,
Speaker 7: I have to do something that's unique that's hard to define,
Speaker 7: or is it more just sort of we're gonna see
Speaker 7: what comes out here. I'm gonna I'm gonna create this song,
Speaker 7: but I'm not trying to be different or weird or
Speaker 7: however people perceive it. I'm just trying to create whatever
Speaker 7: is in my head that I think is going to
Speaker 7: sound good.
Speaker 6: I think it's more the second one. I can't guarantee
Speaker 6: that everything I make people will love. I hope everybody
Speaker 6: loves it, but I make it to move people in
Speaker 6: some way or another. It's not too achieve some arbitrary
Speaker 6: thing of like I did something out or genre defying
Speaker 6: or whatever like for its own sake. I think it's
Speaker 6: more I kind of look at it the way I
Speaker 6: look at life generally. You know, there's such a range
Speaker 6: of kinds of experiences one can have, from incredible sorrow
Speaker 6: to joy to rage too terror to boredom, you know,
Speaker 6: and every everything in between and other stuff. And I've
Speaker 6: always thought of the genres as each like kind of
Speaker 6: paints or something, colors of different paints in that whole picture.
Speaker 6: And so, you know, there's certainly compelling folk music about anger,
Speaker 6: like Bruce Springsteen or Patti Smith or whatever. Plenty of
Speaker 6: those songs are pissed off, but you know, in terms
Speaker 6: of just the raw emotional color of rage, death, metal
Speaker 6: is the angriest to perform. On the other hand, there
Speaker 6: are converge songs that are love song. It sounds doesn't
Speaker 6: sound like it the most, you know, maybe the most
Speaker 6: immediately to some ears. Anyway, loving sound is something softer,
Speaker 6: maybe like a folk song or soul music or something
Speaker 6: like that. So I think of the genres more as
Speaker 6: just different ways of showing the vast array of experiences
Speaker 6: we can have. So that's how I use them.
Speaker 7: And how did how did this project start?
Speaker 6: This?
Speaker 7: Is it true? That started at a temple University in Philly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. So I had been actually to go
Speaker 6: on this thing about the different emotions and emotional experiences
Speaker 6: and whatever we can have as people. Originally I thought
Speaker 6: I was going to be a psychotherapist, and I had
Speaker 6: gotten out of college, went to Skidmore College and I
Speaker 6: graduated in two thousand and seven studying psychology and philosophy.
Speaker 6: And I had a job as an take worker in
Speaker 6: a behavioral healthcare center in South Philly. I saw every
Speaker 6: major and supporting role of the diagnostic statistic manual of
Speaker 6: mental disorders schizophrenia, major depression, bipolar disorder, addictions, and you know,
Speaker 6: kids in a lot of circumstances in really great despair,
Speaker 6: and I had thought I was going to do that career,
Speaker 6: and I had this intake worker position, which I really
Speaker 6: at first, you know, it was hard, but I got
Speaker 6: I ultimately, I was able to do it at first
Speaker 6: because I was I believed that, you know, the world
Speaker 6: as it is, can help these people with a system
Speaker 6: that we have. And then over the next year I
Speaker 6: just got ground down about like, holy crap, this system
Speaker 6: in which we live is really pitted against people, whether
Speaker 6: we are people who need care or people who are
Speaker 6: giving care. And I just got my ass worked and
Speaker 6: roasted by it. And then meanwhile, I had been writing
Speaker 6: this weird music as a little twenty three year old guy.
Speaker 6: And when I eventually said, oh crap, I can't do
Speaker 6: this anymore. I gotta be on my way and try
Speaker 6: music out. I went to Temple University and I met
Speaker 6: a really fantastic number of musicians and still friends to
Speaker 6: this day. That started the first version of the band
Speaker 6: with me in twenty eleven. So the beginning of A. K.
Speaker 6: Schnock was a transition from great, uh you know, kind
Speaker 6: of a personal psychological political crisis, from one walk of
Speaker 6: life to another. And then meeting like minded thinkers and
Speaker 6: feelers and musicians at that at Temple University where I
Speaker 6: went to study classical guitar, when I changed the course
Speaker 6: of my life.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, by the way, Yeah, that is interesting to me,
Speaker 7: and I I I know a little bit about what
Speaker 7: you're what you're talking about, how the system is, uh
Speaker 7: is pitted against these people who so desperately need to
Speaker 7: help and uh, it sounds like you got uh you know,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of burnout in that field obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and it sounds like you you kind of you were
Speaker 7: you had the foresight to see what was coming for
Speaker 7: you if you had if you had stuck with it.
Speaker 7: So so that that's interesting. And then I assume so
Speaker 7: at Temple and you were studying it was classical guitar,
Speaker 7: is that correct? Yeah, And that obviously shaped, I assume
Speaker 7: shaped what you're doing today because you know it in
Speaker 7: terms of being able to do things that are very technical. Obviously,
Speaker 7: that classical training is very helpful. And then so that
Speaker 7: was where the original iteration of the band formed, the
Speaker 7: first lineup formed at Temple. Yeah, okay, and then and
Speaker 7: that was Oh, so this project has actually been around
Speaker 7: a while then, So that was you said that was
Speaker 7: twenty eleven. Yeah, it's been a long time, long time.
Speaker 7: So how was I mean, I assume the sound has
Speaker 7: changed and evolved over time or I mean, were those
Speaker 7: early songs that you did, were those also very much
Speaker 7: genre bending or did it start out a little more conventional.
Speaker 6: Also genre bending. I've been in one project that was
Speaker 6: more stationarily just one project. I was in an indie
Speaker 6: rock band that I played drums in, and that was
Speaker 6: I loved that group. But anytime I've ever written music
Speaker 6: in my own personal musical language, it's always been, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, the shape shifting sound that it is for
Speaker 6: better or for worse.
Speaker 7: Ye. So yeah, And then when did you start releasing
Speaker 7: music with AK Schnack Now I'm butchering it. You're perfect
Speaker 7: AKA snack all good? When when when did that begin?
Speaker 7: As far as your your first output with the project?
Speaker 6: I think our first EP was released in twenty fourteen, Okay.
Speaker 6: It's a tiny, little, uh eighteen minute EP called Letters
Speaker 6: to Herrmann Vasquez Rubio, which I don't think is on
Speaker 6: our Spotify, but it is.
Speaker 7: On band camp, okay.
Speaker 6: And then it was another five years or so before
Speaker 6: we put out the second two releases, so we have
Speaker 6: big old gaps between releases.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, Shadows Grow Fangs, that's your first since twenty nineteen. Correct,
Speaker 7: that's right, Okay. And what was the spark that brought
Speaker 7: this to fruition in terms of because obviously you do
Speaker 7: take long breaks between recording what what brought this?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: What what brought this to light? Wanting to do the CP.
Speaker 6: I always, you know, again, for better or for worse.
Speaker 6: I take a long time to get the full picture
Speaker 6: of what I want a release to be. In fact,
Speaker 6: let's see Shadows of Fangs the Internet three. Almost all
Speaker 6: of the songs on that EP are about as old
Speaker 6: as the the story I was saying, like, I started
Speaker 6: writing the title track Shadows Grow Fangs on a bike
Speaker 6: ride home from my job as an intake worker. So
Speaker 6: I take a long time to finish stuff. And and
Speaker 6: so I think in terms of what compelled it, I
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, you got to just put this out already.
Speaker 6: Let's just put these songs out on this EP and
Speaker 6: make this happen. So I guess the answer is, do it,
Speaker 6: Gosh darn it, David, do it already. Put it out already,
Speaker 6: and you know, you could have a you could have
Speaker 6: a kid graduating high school with this record. Put it
Speaker 6: out so.
Speaker 7: Well. You know, good things take time, right, you.
Speaker 6: Know you're correct? Correct? Easy? Yes, yes, I got to
Speaker 6: go easy on myself.
Speaker 7: There you go, There you go. I also want to
Speaker 7: know more about your connection with EMF, and yes, EMF
Speaker 7: for people who don't remember Unbelievable, I mean, that's like
Speaker 7: the song that people remember the most. You're Unbelievable from EMF.
Speaker 7: And of course I'm not sure how much music they've released,
Speaker 7: and I know they have probably quite a bit, that
Speaker 7: they've been around a long time obviously, but tell us
Speaker 7: about your connection with EMF and the touring and all that.
Speaker 6: Yes, so we met them on our West Coast tour
Speaker 6: this past June, and like you say, I had heard
Speaker 6: that song and I'd always loved it. I probably heard
Speaker 6: it when I was ten years old, and you know,
Speaker 6: hadn't heard the other music until I was put onto
Speaker 6: it by the fact that we were going to be
Speaker 6: touring with them. Had no idea what they would be
Speaker 6: like as dudes. But they were absolutely lovely, lovely, you know,
Speaker 6: to use a British term, lovely books and that tour
Speaker 6: was you know, fifteen days, but it felt like one
Speaker 6: big day, the best day of our lives, I think,
Speaker 6: and just you know, constant warmth and laughter and you know,
Speaker 6: and they're much more seasoned than we are obviously.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but.
Speaker 6: We just had so much fun with them, and they
Speaker 6: saw that we were taking what we were doing seriously
Speaker 6: and we were supportive in terms of just the brass
Speaker 6: tacks of people collaborating on a tour and independable and
Speaker 6: all that. So, uh, and we're on this we're on
Speaker 6: the same booking agency as they are, okay, And so
Speaker 6: that's how we like the simplest way in which we
Speaker 6: got connected. Our manager pitched to the booking agency that
Speaker 6: we'd be the opening act for that tour, and they
Speaker 6: took us up on it, and we proved ourselves and
Speaker 6: the rest is history. So we're on tour with them
Speaker 6: this May on the East Coast for nine days and
Speaker 6: then six dates in England. Wow in June.
Speaker 7: Oh fantastic. That's excellent. Yeah, you know, and it sounds
Speaker 7: like you're having a great experience with them and how
Speaker 7: they are as people, which is great because obviously you
Speaker 7: don't always know going into a situation when you're opening
Speaker 7: for somebody, what the headliner is going to be, like,
Speaker 7: how they're going to be as people, how they're going
Speaker 7: to treat you, and it sounds like it sounds like
Speaker 7: they're like legitimately really good people. So that's that's wonderful.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it was awesome. And right there's you know,
Speaker 6: like life is a mix and people are a mix.
Speaker 6: Each of each one of us is a huge mix
Speaker 6: of virtues, flaws and mediocrits. So, like you say, you
Speaker 6: never know what that mix is going to look like
Speaker 6: in an individual, in a group of people, in a
Speaker 6: set of experiences you can have. But with that relationship,
Speaker 6: it was just very lucky or blessed however you look
Speaker 6: at it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now that's fantastic. And did you also collaborate on
Speaker 7: a song with them?
Speaker 6: Yes, so on tour they had this basically complete idea
Speaker 6: for a song. That's you know, if people don't know
Speaker 6: their sound, generally, it's it's party music with a little
Speaker 6: bit of more and sometimes more than a little bit
Speaker 6: of punk rock energy and tenacity and and then even
Speaker 6: to some extent, some political import too. So they have
Speaker 6: dear friends like most of us do, who are in
Speaker 6: the queer community, and you know, in this troubled world,
Speaker 6: the queer community is under great attack all the time.
Speaker 6: And so they wrote a song of solidarity with them
Speaker 6: called lgbt Q plus Lover. And they had this song
Speaker 6: that they were going to premiere on tour, and they
Speaker 6: did the first nights, and then when they saw us
Speaker 6: and heard my singing and the other singer in my band,
Speaker 6: Bella this incredible contralto, they said, Holy, holy heck, these
Speaker 6: this guy and Gal are are really good singers. And
Speaker 6: they have the beginning of the song basically sounds like
Speaker 6: a big choral pad, and they had they have a
Speaker 6: synth pad on the tracks, usually live and on recording.
Speaker 6: But they're like, why don't we have the opener the
Speaker 6: two singers from the opening band come on and join us,
Speaker 6: which we did from the third all the way to
Speaker 6: the last eleventh show of the night, and then after
Speaker 6: that because we had so much fun and because audiences
Speaker 6: really appreciated it, they memorialized that relationship by having us
Speaker 6: on the on that recording. So the song is called
Speaker 6: l g b t Q plus Lover, and again it's
Speaker 6: a song of solidarity with gay, transgender, transsexual, non binary
Speaker 6: other other folks who are under attack and need our
Speaker 6: ally ship.
Speaker 7: That's extremely cool. I fully support that, and I actually
Speaker 7: pulled it up. I'm kind of scanning through the lyrics,
Speaker 7: just making sure that I can play it, because I might.
Speaker 7: I might play it later in the show. We do
Speaker 7: have another track of yours that I'm going to play
Speaker 7: at the end of our conversation, but after that, I
Speaker 7: might sneak this one in two. I'm just scarning. I'm
Speaker 7: just scanning through making sure there's no uh no language
Speaker 7: and I.
Speaker 6: Don't think we have any naughty words. That he does
Speaker 6: say the word boo hoo. So depending on your audience's sensitivities,
Speaker 6: maybe I should. Maybe I am a potty mouth for
Speaker 6: saying that.
Speaker 7: I can assure you I have a highly insensitive audience,
Speaker 7: so I think. So what I'm going to do is,
Speaker 7: I'm at the end of our versation, I'm gonna play
Speaker 7: another track of yours, and then immediately after that, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna play this m F track because I found it online.
Speaker 7: So I think that's awesome, and that's so cool for
Speaker 7: you like that. That was probably a huge surprise, right
Speaker 7: when when they asked you to do that. I assume
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 6: You know, if you have a certain amount of success
Speaker 6: in any kind of creative or professional thing, it's a
Speaker 6: sort of naturally human mistake to like deify people. And
Speaker 6: I'm reminded, you know, this guy's kind of a controversial figure,
Speaker 6: I think unfortunately because I don't personally I think he's
Speaker 6: a heroic person. Nobody nobody's perfect, but Ralph Nader, the
Speaker 6: consumer advocate, you know, leftist gad fly.
Speaker 7: I'm a fan.
Speaker 6: Okay, heck yes, we got the Ralph Nader crew in
Speaker 6: the in the building. Ralph Naders says about politicians, he
Speaker 6: just says, they're not gods. They are people that tie
Speaker 6: their shoes in the morning and brush their teeth at night,
Speaker 6: and so you can relate to them just as fellow people.
Speaker 6: You don't have to feel smaller in there. You know,
Speaker 6: they're they're You're just as powerful as they are in
Speaker 6: some respect. And uh, it's you know, it's a bit
Speaker 6: of a jump of a comparison. But basically, when n
Speaker 6: F said, hey, we see what you're doing, we like
Speaker 6: it so much, we want you to join us, there
Speaker 6: was this surreal, like wait, what moment of but you
Speaker 6: but you guys literally helped with with your breakout, world
Speaker 6: famous sing goal when I was eleven years old. You
Speaker 6: helped put together the beginnings of my little brains understanding
Speaker 6: of what pop music is, and now you want me
Speaker 6: to participate in the continuation of your art. So it
Speaker 6: was it was pretty surreal and beautiful. And but then no,
Speaker 6: they're just people that put their shoes on in the
Speaker 6: morning and take them off at night and brush their
Speaker 6: teeth at night and whatever.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's amazing, awesome. I can't wait to
Speaker 7: I can't wait to play that. So at the end
Speaker 7: of our conversation. So, like I said, I'm gonna play
Speaker 7: two things. So at the end of our conversation, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna play Jeremy. I'm really curious to hear about this,
Speaker 7: the Jeremy Bentham song Jeremy Utilitarian sad Boy. Tell us
Speaker 7: about this, tell us about a song?
Speaker 6: Sure, So, like I said, I'll four out of five
Speaker 6: of the songs from our Shadows Grow Fangs EP, which
Speaker 6: we released last October, I believe I can't. I think so.
Speaker 6: I think that's right. Four out of five of them
Speaker 6: are very old songs in my writing history. So when
Speaker 6: I still lived in Philadelphia and just around the time
Speaker 6: that I started going to Temple University. As I was
Speaker 6: finishing up my changing from a would be shrink into
Speaker 6: a beginning musician beginning musician, I lived around the corner
Speaker 6: from this really curious, complicated museum called Eastern State Penitentiary,
Speaker 6: which was a prison. It's the North Philly in the
Speaker 6: Fairmount neighborhood, and it's this great, big brick fortress in
Speaker 6: a you know, pretty like relatively nice part of the city.
Speaker 6: There's like a couple rough spots here and there around it,
Speaker 6: but like it's sort of nice around there. But there's
Speaker 6: this but there's this prison museum, and every every Halloween
Speaker 6: they had this Haunted Prison event, and I would went
Speaker 6: to the Haunted Prison event and my friends would play
Speaker 6: prisoners who were also zombies. And then I went there
Speaker 6: the next day and I learned about this guy Jeremy Bentham,
Speaker 6: who was this British full who and least at least
Speaker 6: in our troubled tradition, he was sort of a predecessor
Speaker 6: to Marx. He believed in the highest good, in the
Speaker 6: least amount of suffering, the most pleasure, the least amount
Speaker 6: of pain, for the highest number of people, and he
Speaker 6: believed that the government can play a positive and real
Speaker 6: role in that. Wow, big whoop and incredible. It seems
Speaker 6: sort of obvious now, but for his time it was.
Speaker 6: It was an important thing to say. And he precedes Marx,
Speaker 6: so this is all good. But he had this weird idea,
Speaker 6: which was the idea of solitary confinement. So if you're
Speaker 6: familiar with the horrible things we do to prisoners, yes,
Speaker 6: sometimes we're so brutal as to black people in closet
Speaker 6: sized rooms and leave them there indefinitely. I have a friend,
Speaker 6: in fact, named Keith Lamar who has been in solitary
Speaker 6: confinement for thirty five years. He's an innocent man on
Speaker 6: death row in Ohio. He's got ten months until the
Speaker 6: scheduled execution. But you know, so he's an example of
Speaker 6: this complete disaster of let's say, good intentions creating horrific nonsense.
Speaker 6: So the song is a an exploration of how did
Speaker 6: you how did you miss? How did you forget to
Speaker 6: carry the two on this cute little moral calculation you
Speaker 6: had Jeremy Bentham, you know, your highest good for highest number,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of imagining something like the social safety net.
Speaker 6: And these are all good ideas and making sure people
Speaker 6: have food and housing in basic livelihood and human rights
Speaker 6: on it. But now you have this idea of locking
Speaker 6: people and closets indefinitely. Where'd you go wrong? It's weirdo right.
Speaker 6: And then the funniest, the last weird coincidence about his
Speaker 6: story that comes up in the song and the lyric
Speaker 6: is that he had this idea that when you die,
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about death. You can grieve
Speaker 6: the people that have died, but death is not a
Speaker 6: harm to the person that dies because they're no longer.
Speaker 6: There's no harm to somebody who doesn't exist, So don't
Speaker 6: fear death. And then in relation to the body, well,
Speaker 6: what do you do? What do you tell people about
Speaker 6: what to do with your body when you die? He said,
Speaker 6: I want to he said, basically taxidermy me, put me
Speaker 6: in my seated position. He was a professor at an
Speaker 6: Oxford in London or sorry in England, and so he said,
Speaker 6: just put me in my cool hats with my cane
Speaker 6: and my professor le Garb made me look swell or whatever,
Speaker 6: and have me seated with a big smile on my face,
Speaker 6: and just let my body be an image of.
Speaker 10: You.
Speaker 6: Know, the the body as a stale instrument was his phrase,
Speaker 6: like a thing that just comes and goes and no
Speaker 6: big deal. And you know, my former students, you can
Speaker 6: even laugh at me or whatever. So there's kind of
Speaker 6: like this light heartedness, right, but there's also this this weird,
Speaker 6: grotesque accident where like he's putting his dead body in
Speaker 6: this in this cell for his students to muse ad
Speaker 6: and to love him after he's gone, or to laugh
Speaker 6: at him, or to be growth, grow soud or whatever. Right,
Speaker 6: And meanwhile, his confused, absurd philosophical tradition ends up putting
Speaker 6: living people in cells. And and those are those bodies
Speaker 6: are not stale instruments at all. Those people are living
Speaker 6: people with hopes and dreams and fears and emotions and
Speaker 6: lives they want to live. So and then that's the
Speaker 6: story of Keith Lamar is another important thing that if
Speaker 6: we speak again, I want to tell you about. But
Speaker 6: for folks who need inspiration and want to help with
Speaker 6: an important cause, check out Keithlamar dot org, okay, and
Speaker 6: you can hear about his story. He's an imprisoned man
Speaker 6: on death row wrongfully who is an incredible philosopher, writer
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Speaker 6: I'm sure you'd be interested in that as well. I
Speaker 6: really love this conversation and it seems like you are
Speaker 6: curious about the right things.
Speaker 7: Oh. Absolutely, And I'm also someone who my entire life,
Speaker 7: I've always been very much opposed to the death penalty.
Speaker 7: One of the few things my dad, who passed away
Speaker 7: not too long ago, it's one of the few things
Speaker 7: that he and I actually agreed on all the way
Speaker 7: to his end, is politically one of the few things
Speaker 7: we agreed on was that the death penalty is egregious
Speaker 7: and wrong. So yeah, I'm going to look that up.
Speaker 7: I am curious to know more about that, and I
Speaker 7: would like to have a follow up conversation with you
Speaker 7: on that subject in the future. Definitely. Yeah, that'd be
Speaker 7: very interesting. So we're going to in a moment, we'll
Speaker 7: let you go, David, and we're going to play We
Speaker 7: are going to play Jeremy Utilitarian sad Boy to at
Speaker 7: the close of our conversation, and then, like I said,
Speaker 7: I am also going to play that E m F
Speaker 7: track LGBTQ plus Lover. Very curious to hear that as well.
Speaker 7: But I want to know, please share with our listeners
Speaker 7: where's the best place to go online to keep up
Speaker 7: with everything you're doing? Everything ak schnack is doing. How
Speaker 7: to spell it for people who don't know how to spell it?
Speaker 7: And uh and anything else you want our listeners to
Speaker 7: be aware of in terms of finding you online.
Speaker 6: Great, yes, for better or for worse? I chose a
Speaker 6: funny name for this act. I often think of the
Speaker 6: hip hop artist talib Quality. You know, yeah, he could
Speaker 6: have he was. He's obviously very creative guy. He could
Speaker 6: have chosen a much more forward name for himself. But
Speaker 6: for whatever reason, some of us, you know, just get
Speaker 6: attached to challenging names. And he has a whole song
Speaker 6: about you pronounced the name quality, any questions whatever, So
Speaker 6: he's making kind of making fun of his of that
Speaker 6: choice of his own. For me and our band. Uh,
Speaker 6: the name is spelled e double c e e c
Speaker 6: c e space s h n a K schnock k
Speaker 6: schnock e double c e space s h n a
Speaker 6: K And we got to update it, so bear with
Speaker 6: us on the on the website. But but certainly websites
Speaker 6: are are an old school thing to do, so you
Speaker 6: can check it out there but in terms of the
Speaker 6: most immediate things, I think Instagram is the best medium
Speaker 6: to get the totally most up to date AH updates
Speaker 6: about us and any any streaming platform of your choice.
Speaker 6: To check out the music, and then we can certainly
Speaker 6: send you merch if you fall in love with the
Speaker 6: music and want some want a vinyl or a T
Speaker 6: shirt or something, we have a store for that. Two
Speaker 6: and yeah, so I think the the maybe for for
Speaker 6: for an odd band. We have more hum drum, mediocre
Speaker 6: ways of listening to us.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know what, though it occurs to me,
Speaker 7: it does make you very google able, as I like
Speaker 7: to say, because if someone googles your name and you know,
Speaker 7: assuming they spell correctly, there's not gonna be any confusion.
Speaker 7: Oh is this is this the correct at? Do I
Speaker 7: have the right one? You don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 7: So that's a good thing. Absolutely, Thank you. Well, So
Speaker 7: we're going to to in a moment. We're gonna play
Speaker 7: this track, Jared, Jeremy, I don't know, I have so
Speaker 7: much trouble with it. Jeremy utilitarian sad boy. I need
Speaker 7: more caffeine this morning. But David, thank you so much
Speaker 7: for joining us. This has been a wonderful conversation. Fascinated
Speaker 7: by your music. I really love it. Check out the
Speaker 7: ep everybody Shadows Grow Fangs really really good and we
Speaker 7: will definitely have you back. Man, this has been wonderful.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, man, and peace and love to
Speaker 6: w M n H listeners. So much gratitude to you,
Speaker 6: and hopefully we'll see you on the East Coast tour.
Speaker 6: Boston might be the nearest you guys, are I think
Speaker 6: so uh so Yeah, much love and gratitude to everybody
Speaker 6: in the w M n H universe. Peace and love, Davy.
Speaker 7: All right, talk to you soon, my friend. Take care,
Speaker 7: bye bye. All right. That was David Roush. The project
Speaker 7: is k Schnack and check this out. This is called
Speaker 7: Jeremy Utilitarian sad Boy from the ep Shadows Grow. Thanks Hey.
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