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10:39 Speaker 14: live on Saturday May sixteen, twenty twenty six, I believe

10:42 Speaker 14: we're going to have Dave Derby from the Damn Builders.

10:46 Speaker 14: I think we've got it worked out so he should

10:48 Speaker 14: be on with us in just a few minutes. But

10:50 Speaker 14: we're gonna play this again. Such a great Boston band.

10:53 Speaker 14: It's great to see them back together. And this is

10:56 Speaker 14: the twenty twenty six remaster remix re reversioned.

11:01 Speaker 2: That's a word. This is great.

11:04 Speaker 14: Uh, this is of course Shine from the Damn Builders.

11:07 Speaker 14: And then we're gonna talk to Dave Derby from the

11:09 Speaker 14: Damn Builders all about it.

11:10 Speaker 2: Here we go, she tells us sleep.

11:38 Speaker 12: Let's say she tells me.

11:43 Speaker 11: Not to talk.

11:46 Speaker 12: I want to stand.

11:56 Speaker 15: Let's stop past here talking about you, and well she talk.

12:24 Speaker 9: He has to take a man smoking club.

12:29 Speaker 12: He gets to bob behind. You don't know what too

12:34 Speaker 12: long when she tell Jane.

12:42 Speaker 8: I know something what.

13:06 Speaker 15: I could buy so easily because her hands kind of

13:11 Speaker 15: red when.

13:12 Speaker 9: I ask her shook time out too?

13:16 Speaker 14: She says me it's already tack, but I don't.

13:19 Speaker 11: Know that I stay her cons check her on time.

13:25 Speaker 8: So out came up.

13:28 Speaker 11: To side.

13:31 Speaker 12: CARDI fucking role.

13:59 Speaker 14: I love this is so catchy. That is Shine twenty

14:02 Speaker 14: twenty six. Of course, the damn Builders, And we've got

14:05 Speaker 14: Dave Derby here with us via Microsoft Teams.

14:07 Speaker 8: Hello, Dave, Hey, how's it going? Good?

14:10 Speaker 14: Good, very good, wonderful. It's great to speak with you.

14:13 Speaker 14: They're very excited about today. When I have to tell

14:16 Speaker 14: you this, I'm gonna geek out a little bit live

14:18 Speaker 14: on the air. When I first when it came to

14:21 Speaker 14: my attention that you were going to be coming on

14:23 Speaker 14: the show today, the first thing I thought of was

14:25 Speaker 14: the original video for Shine, you know, and the whole

14:30 Speaker 14: alien vibe and everything with those white outfits. That was

14:33 Speaker 14: the first thing that came into my head. So I

14:34 Speaker 14: had a very a very vivid visual image of the

14:39 Speaker 14: band in my mind. And then of course I went

14:41 Speaker 14: back and watched the video, and then I watched the

14:43 Speaker 14: new video, which has footage from the old video in

14:45 Speaker 14: it and very very cool, and so I'm extremely curious

14:51 Speaker 14: why why Now? Obviously the dam Builders has been away

14:55 Speaker 14: for a bit, right, I mean it was what was

14:57 Speaker 14: it nineteen eighty nine when the band started, is that right?

15:00 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, nineteen eighty nine, started in Honolulu, Hawaii. And

15:07 Speaker 8: then yeah, we called it quits I think in ninety seven. Okay,

15:11 Speaker 8: so almost you know, almost thirty years. We have been

15:17 Speaker 8: playing kind of reunion shows. Well actually so we hadn't

15:22 Speaker 8: played them as the dam Builders. We kind of had

15:24 Speaker 8: a funny thing where we wanted to try out this

15:28 Speaker 8: sort of new lineup of the band, and we played

15:31 Speaker 8: under a kind of like a pseudonym as a Damn

15:35 Speaker 8: Builder's tribute band featuring members of Luna guided by Voices

15:39 Speaker 8: and the dam Builders. Interesting a couple of times just

15:43 Speaker 8: to try it out, and then you know, it took

15:45 Speaker 8: a while for schedules to align. It's kind of crazy

15:48 Speaker 8: how so much time can fly by. But this has

15:51 Speaker 8: been something that you know, we've been thinking about for

15:54 Speaker 8: I don't know, probably ten fifteen years. Finally pulled it off. Okay, yeah,

16:00 Speaker 8: and we did, you know, so we did these new releases,

16:03 Speaker 8: a couple of new shows, and intending to do more

16:08 Speaker 8: kind of in the future.

16:10 Speaker 14: Oh good good, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, you

16:13 Speaker 14: mentioned starting out the band starting out in Honolulu, but

16:16 Speaker 14: then you really became a fixture, you know, on your

16:19 Speaker 14: way up and obviously you know National act I remember

16:21 Speaker 14: seeing the video for Shine on MTV, but really in

16:25 Speaker 14: the college, in the in the Boston college rock scene,

16:28 Speaker 14: right was where you sort of started to really come up.

16:31 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, we moved to Boston in nineteen ninety. We

16:34 Speaker 8: had kind of dates ourselves, but we had a record

16:39 Speaker 8: on an independent label in Berlin, which was at the

16:43 Speaker 8: time West Germany, and we you know, we're living in

16:46 Speaker 8: Honolulu and we're like, okay, we can't do this, Let's

16:48 Speaker 8: go somewhere. We wanted to be on the East Coast

16:51 Speaker 8: because we figured at that point we would be doing

16:53 Speaker 8: more stuff in Europe, okay, and we had all gone

16:57 Speaker 8: to college on the East Coast anyway, so Boston seemed

17:00 Speaker 8: like a natural place. It had you know, there are

17:02 Speaker 8: bands that we loved from that scene, and it you know,

17:07 Speaker 8: has had a vibrant scene for many, many years, and

17:09 Speaker 8: it was just a great place to go. So in

17:11 Speaker 8: many ways that is kind of our home.

17:13 Speaker 14: How did you adjust to the weather at while Yeah, different,

17:19 Speaker 14: I was gonna say that would be the one disadvantage, right, Yeah,

17:23 Speaker 14: I think It's funny.

17:23 Speaker 8: The thing I think that we sort of collectively weren't

17:27 Speaker 8: so great. It was the idea of having really good

17:30 Speaker 8: winter coats, you know. I think among us we've probably

17:32 Speaker 8: had one.

17:35 Speaker 3: Yeah.

17:36 Speaker 14: Now I'm curious to know more about Oh, I'm sorry,

17:40 Speaker 14: I keep saying the title wrong Shrine. I keep saying Shine.

17:43 Speaker 14: I don't know why, but I don't know why I

17:46 Speaker 14: do that. But I'm curious to know more, Like, why

17:48 Speaker 14: did you choose that song, you know, in terms of

17:52 Speaker 14: transitioning it into Shrine twenty twenty six, and you know,

17:56 Speaker 14: making again the video is great. I love the way

18:00 Speaker 14: you know it combines obviously you today with some footage

18:04 Speaker 14: from the original video. But why that, why why the

18:07 Speaker 14: focus on that song specifically?

18:10 Speaker 8: It was just something that when you know, when this band,

18:12 Speaker 8: this version of the band reformed, we just thought that

18:15 Speaker 8: there was a kind of slightly different energy to it.

18:17 Speaker 8: It does sound pretty similar to the original, yeah, but

18:21 Speaker 8: but there's just a kind of I think there's a

18:23 Speaker 8: little bit of a spirit that's a little different. And

18:27 Speaker 8: it was just something, you know, to be honest, we

18:29 Speaker 8: just kind of like Kevin and I were in the

18:31 Speaker 8: studio and we were working on some other stuff, and

18:34 Speaker 8: we just started playing it and then kind of thought like, wow,

18:38 Speaker 8: this is we should re record this. Yeah, yeah, And

18:42 Speaker 8: it turned out really well. It was just and I think,

18:46 Speaker 8: you know, lyrically kind of what the song is about

18:50 Speaker 8: and sort of what it has kind of meant to

18:53 Speaker 8: our history. It just felt it feels like a really

18:56 Speaker 8: good song to kind of restart things with the video.

19:01 Speaker 8: You know, we're actually working on a documentary of It's

19:06 Speaker 8: not only about the Dan Belers, kind of like about

19:09 Speaker 8: the sort of things that happened kind of adjacent to

19:11 Speaker 8: us being a band in Honolulu when there was kind

19:14 Speaker 8: of a rich scene in the eighties and then and

19:17 Speaker 8: then you know, going to Boston and being part of

19:19 Speaker 8: that scene and then being part of a group of

19:21 Speaker 8: bands that were playing in Europe at that time, kind

19:23 Speaker 8: of you know, pre Nirvana and all that stuff. And

19:26 Speaker 8: so the video director is an old friend, is actually

19:30 Speaker 8: like the first friend that I made when I moved

19:32 Speaker 8: to Boston, and he has you know, I've been friends

19:37 Speaker 8: with him for years and he's known the band really well,

19:39 Speaker 8: and he had a lot of really great ideas about

19:45 Speaker 8: how to kind of reuse some of the older footage

19:47 Speaker 8: and kind of to weave in this whole backstory and

19:50 Speaker 8: kind of bring in other people in the band, including

19:54 Speaker 8: you know, Joan Wasser, who it is. She's not in

19:58 Speaker 8: the current lineup. We hope we can convince her to

20:01 Speaker 8: join us on stage one of these days, but she's

20:05 Speaker 8: she and Eric and Eric does has played with the

20:08 Speaker 8: dan Builders in the new lineup and and we'll probably

20:12 Speaker 8: be doing so. But we also wanted a way to

20:15 Speaker 8: kind of like bring the past members into it. And

20:19 Speaker 8: there's another person who's in the video is actually the

20:22 Speaker 8: original Dan Builders drummer on the very first record that

20:25 Speaker 8: we made, a guy named Daniel Glass I went to

20:29 Speaker 8: preschool with, who's actually a really famous kind of drummer's drummer.

20:33 Speaker 8: He has a column and Modern Drummer magazine. He's he

20:38 Speaker 8: played in the Royal Crown Review, and he's just a

20:44 Speaker 8: he's an amazing player. And kind of started playing with

20:46 Speaker 8: him again, and you know, a long way of saying like,

20:50 Speaker 8: we felt like the video is a great way to

20:51 Speaker 8: kind of bring the past and present together and kind

20:55 Speaker 8: of celebrate what the band is. And I think that

21:00 Speaker 8: flexible spirit of doing that song.

21:02 Speaker 14: Now, the friend we were talking about is that Bruno Bruno.

21:05 Speaker 8: Corbo, Bruno Corbo.

21:07 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so.

21:08 Speaker 14: He did the video, the original video for Shrine. What

21:13 Speaker 14: was the did he come up with the whole concept?

21:15 Speaker 14: It sort of like this alien rockers living underground kind

21:19 Speaker 14: of thing. Was that him that they came up with

21:21 Speaker 14: that or you collaborated?

21:22 Speaker 8: So so yeah, So the original video, the nineteen ninety

21:26 Speaker 8: four video was created by Trion George, who actually was

21:30 Speaker 8: also an original member of the Dan Builders as well.

21:32 Speaker 8: He kind of went in a different direction after we

21:34 Speaker 8: did some tours in Europe and became kind of a

21:37 Speaker 8: very successful director and still really really good friends with him,

21:42 Speaker 8: and so we wanted to take a lot of the

21:44 Speaker 8: really magical stuff that try and created in that video

21:48 Speaker 8: and bring this whole backstory that that Bruno had kind

21:51 Speaker 8: of created mostly on his own, but also, you know,

21:54 Speaker 8: we kind of collaborated on some of these ideas just

21:57 Speaker 8: how we could kind of pay homage to the original

22:01 Speaker 8: video and bring in something new. And I think, you know,

22:04 Speaker 8: we first made the making of that first video in

22:06 Speaker 8: nineteen niney four is kind of a funny thing where

22:09 Speaker 8: there was a different song that was supposed to be

22:11 Speaker 8: the single, and then we kind of had to pivot

22:13 Speaker 8: to making a video for Shrine, and in our approach

22:16 Speaker 8: to it. I know this kind of sounds pretentious, but

22:18 Speaker 8: the sort of French wave film, you know, sort of

22:21 Speaker 8: like that idea of just like you know, the way

22:23 Speaker 8: that you know, the original Breathless was made where you

22:26 Speaker 8: know that the people in the film just kind of

22:28 Speaker 8: improvised and came up, you know, they had a basic storyline, sure,

22:32 Speaker 8: and kind of improvised and used things in the set,

22:35 Speaker 8: and so that video was very kind of random. We

22:38 Speaker 8: we even though we had a really solid backstory, we

22:42 Speaker 8: kind of tried to bring that same sort of collaborative,

22:47 Speaker 8: kind of French new wave element to it because that

22:51 Speaker 8: kind of thing like experimentation and collaboration is a really

22:55 Speaker 8: important part of I think, like I'm sounding really pretentious today,

22:58 Speaker 8: but the thoughts of the damn Builders, right, It's like

23:01 Speaker 8: we're kind of all about that. So it just felt

23:04 Speaker 8: like it all came together through collaboration and you know,

23:07 Speaker 8: different people coming up with different ideas, and I just

23:10 Speaker 8: think it's a celebration of who we are and where

23:13 Speaker 8: we're going and getting back together again and all those

23:16 Speaker 8: wonderful things.

23:17 Speaker 14: Absolutely, and I'm curious to know more. The documentary you

23:20 Speaker 14: refer to is that I Used to Be Different? Is

23:22 Speaker 14: that the one that Yeah, okay, we in progress? Yeah, okay,

23:26 Speaker 14: can you tell us a little bit more about that

23:27 Speaker 14: because that's particularly interesting to me too. Yeah.

23:31 Speaker 8: So, you know it is, we're in the middle of it.

23:37 Speaker 8: It's kind of I'm trying to figure out, like, you know,

23:41 Speaker 8: Brennan and I've been friends for so long, and we

23:44 Speaker 8: just kind of have this habit of like just you know,

23:47 Speaker 8: coming up with really probably two elaborate plans. But the

23:52 Speaker 8: idea is that we've shot a lot of stuff in Hawaii,

23:56 Speaker 8: kind of going back to sort of the roots of

23:58 Speaker 8: the band, the original members. The one one thing I'd

24:02 Speaker 8: like to plug that is very relevant to this is

24:05 Speaker 8: it is a great book that just came out that's

24:08 Speaker 8: about the Honolulu music scene that's called Local Unrest by

24:12 Speaker 8: a guy named Sean Lopez. It's a fantastic book if

24:15 Speaker 8: you just like reading about you know, it's it's kind

24:18 Speaker 8: of similar to something like, you know, please kill Me,

24:21 Speaker 8: but it's said in Honolulu. As crazy as that sounds, okay,

24:25 Speaker 8: And and so we wanted to capture some of that stuff,

24:28 Speaker 8: like just kind of inspired by Sean and we did

24:30 Speaker 8: kind of like you know, driving around and finding you know,

24:33 Speaker 8: old clubs and the you know, the sights of old

24:36 Speaker 8: venues and stuff like that. We're going to do a

24:40 Speaker 8: similar type of thing about you know, shooting and interviewing

24:44 Speaker 8: folks that were in bands we were coming up with

24:46 Speaker 8: in in Boston, yeah, as well as talking to the

24:49 Speaker 8: original members and then hopefully going to Berlin and and

24:53 Speaker 8: and and Germany and and revisiting some of the places

24:56 Speaker 8: where we did shows there and kind of you know,

24:59 Speaker 8: interviewing are really very colorful, interesting record label guys like

25:08 Speaker 8: one of one of the strangest, most awesome people I've

25:11 Speaker 8: ever met in this life. And just having game on

25:14 Speaker 8: camera will be great. But it's kind of supposed to

25:17 Speaker 8: be about everything in between, and you know, we're just

25:20 Speaker 8: having fun doing it, and you know, our goal is

25:24 Speaker 8: to get this done by the you know, end of summer,

25:29 Speaker 8: and we'll have what we have and we'll be sharing

25:33 Speaker 8: you know, kind of teasers of it and you know,

25:36 Speaker 8: going into editing hopefully in the fall. We are we're

25:42 Speaker 8: hoping that that you know, corresponds to We're gonna be

25:46 Speaker 8: we We're doing a Boston show which we actually m

25:49 Speaker 8: would be the first time I actually announced it. God,

25:51 Speaker 8: I better get the rest to day right, But it's

25:55 Speaker 8: twentieth and twenty first, let me just confirm in at

26:00 Speaker 8: the Burn in November, like that far away, because apparently

26:07 Speaker 8: Boston has become you have to book it that far

26:09 Speaker 8: in advance these days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is crazy.

26:15 Speaker 8: So I think it's yeah, I think it's the it's

26:17 Speaker 8: it's yeah, the weekend before Thanksgiving, So I think it's

26:22 Speaker 8: the twentieth and twenty first. We'll be doing a little

26:24 Speaker 8: residency there and hopefully before that, you know, hoping to

26:32 Speaker 8: do a few shows in New England. I'm let in

26:36 Speaker 8: New Hampshire actually that's one place, and we're hoping to

26:38 Speaker 8: play at Portsmouth that.

26:40 Speaker 14: Would be excellent.

26:42 Speaker 8: Yeah, And and then and then we'll be doing in

26:47 Speaker 8: our plans like and you know, the current Dambler's band

26:52 Speaker 8: is so busy it's hard to kind of keep everyone's schedule.

26:55 Speaker 8: Sean plays in Luna Claudia Topek, you know, plays violin

27:01 Speaker 8: is you know, she is in a million Broadway plays

27:05 Speaker 8: and so her schedule gets really busy. But we will

27:09 Speaker 8: be doing we're looking to be doing some some touring

27:12 Speaker 8: in February and March. You know, hopefully we're not exactly

27:17 Speaker 8: sure where, you know, East coast, you know, some of

27:22 Speaker 8: the Midwest, hopefully West coast as well. Kind of TVD

27:25 Speaker 8: but that's kind of the more ambitious plans for the future.

27:29 Speaker 14: Okay, Yeah, so you've got some things coming up. That's excellent. Yeah,

27:33 Speaker 14: Something specific I really want to ask you about, too,

27:35 Speaker 14: is something that I am very passionate about is college

27:39 Speaker 14: radio and and I feel like I'm curious to get

27:43 Speaker 14: your thoughts on how on the role that college radio,

27:47 Speaker 14: you know, especially in a place like Boston, which has

27:49 Speaker 14: you know, just a lot of obviously an incredible music scene,

27:52 Speaker 14: and a big part of that is is college radio

27:55 Speaker 14: in Boston. But I'm curious about the role of college

27:58 Speaker 14: radio and in helping the dam Builders in the beginning.

28:01 Speaker 14: Obviously you were getting exposure you know, on MTV. Like

28:04 Speaker 14: I said, I remember seeing the video for Shrine, but

28:07 Speaker 14: but also at college radio. I feel like that's part

28:09 Speaker 14: of part of a big part right of the the

28:11 Speaker 14: dam Builders essential.

28:13 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm super passionate about college

28:18 Speaker 8: radio myself. You know, I Boston, being in Boston in

28:24 Speaker 8: the nineties, especially like you know, pre Internet era, like

28:27 Speaker 8: college radio was just a thing where you know, I

28:29 Speaker 8: just remember like planning my days around shows that were

28:33 Speaker 8: on different stations and just you know, switching from from

28:37 Speaker 8: station to station, you know, like NBR and r S

28:41 Speaker 8: and HRB and uh, you know, all all the stations there, VBC,

28:50 Speaker 8: but you know, so that was a huge thing. Another thing,

28:54 Speaker 8: and also yeah, NBR, like we one thing that will

28:59 Speaker 8: be kind of TVD in terms of how how we

29:04 Speaker 8: release it, but we're definitely gonna there's some rarities that

29:07 Speaker 8: we have, like live radio performances where you know, the

29:13 Speaker 8: band used to like we used to you know, we

29:16 Speaker 8: used to write songs sometimes like right before the show

29:20 Speaker 8: or even on the moment, and there there's some there's

29:25 Speaker 8: some really cool nineties Dan Builders performances that we were

29:30 Speaker 8: planning to release in some form and so those are

29:34 Speaker 8: all about Collegrado Colladrated for us was like you know,

29:38 Speaker 8: it was and I think this was very true, like

29:40 Speaker 8: back in back in the nineties, it was like, you know,

29:43 Speaker 8: it was like going into the studio was like prepping

29:46 Speaker 8: something for the studios. Like the chance to be live

29:48 Speaker 8: on the radio was just such an important thing. And

29:52 Speaker 8: in Boston people. You know, even before you know bands

29:55 Speaker 8: would release like vinyl or CDs, they just do, you know,

30:00 Speaker 8: radio tapes and kind of take them around and you know,

30:03 Speaker 8: and I just remember loving radio tapes that I don't

30:07 Speaker 8: know if they were ever even actually released by by

30:10 Speaker 8: you know, some local bands in Boston's. And then just

30:15 Speaker 8: a whole other thing about college radio just just since

30:17 Speaker 8: you mentioned it. I mean, this is just like so

30:19 Speaker 8: just for fun. One other thing that I'm doing with

30:24 Speaker 8: some old friends is starting a band that is is

30:28 Speaker 8: actually a cover band that is totally devote devoted to

30:34 Speaker 8: really like mid to late eighties college radio in America

30:38 Speaker 8: before it was called indie. Yeah, so it's just like

30:42 Speaker 8: kind of trying to capture and that's when I went

30:45 Speaker 8: to college, and that's you know, I still have this

30:47 Speaker 8: like memory of hearing like Husker Do for the first

30:50 Speaker 8: time and stuff like that. So that's so we're only

30:53 Speaker 8: playing songs from that that era and it's just so fun. Yeah,

30:58 Speaker 8: it's like a time capsule.

31:00 Speaker 2: Oh that's wild.

31:01 Speaker 14: Wow, that's so cool.

31:03 Speaker 8: Yeah, I see that as a real celebration to college radio.

31:06 Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean college radio was just such a

31:10 Speaker 8: such a huge thing to us, and it's still kind

31:12 Speaker 8: of it still is it is? Yeah, yeah, it's still

31:16 Speaker 8: so vibrant. I mean yeah in New York, the New

31:19 Speaker 8: York area, the FUV thing is just really fun and

31:22 Speaker 8: you know, FMU like people are super into those stations

31:26 Speaker 8: and you know, just kind of still really important and

31:29 Speaker 8: the folks who are DJs are really kind of super

31:32 Speaker 8: important to I think, you know, sustaining any definitely true

31:36 Speaker 8: in the New York scene as well.

31:38 Speaker 14: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. Well that well then, so

31:41 Speaker 14: you know, if we fast forward to today, obviously, you know,

31:44 Speaker 14: now we have streaming and the social media landscape and everything, right,

31:47 Speaker 14: how do the how do you and and how does

31:50 Speaker 14: the band, the dam Builders sort of adapt to all

31:54 Speaker 14: of that? I mean, has that been easy? Has that

31:55 Speaker 14: been a challenge?

31:56 Speaker 8: I mean yeah, yes, I mean it's not a challenge,

32:03 Speaker 8: and it's and we're still kind of, I think in

32:05 Speaker 8: terms of the dam Builders, were still going to kind

32:07 Speaker 8: of see how that goes, you know, but I would say,

32:14 Speaker 8: you know, I've been putting out records for a long

32:16 Speaker 8: time in different different bands, you know, post Dam Builders,

32:22 Speaker 8: and just to kind of wax a little bit philosophical

32:26 Speaker 8: about streaming, I think there is like one of the

32:29 Speaker 8: issues was streaming, and this is I think, you know,

32:32 Speaker 8: college radio is very different in this sense, but streaming is,

32:36 Speaker 8: you know, it is this kind of crazy candy store.

32:39 Speaker 8: We can go to twenty four to seven and stream

32:42 Speaker 8: anything and everything we want, and it does. I think

32:46 Speaker 8: it's hard to get past the reality that it it

32:50 Speaker 8: kind of on some level, devalues music. I mean, I

32:53 Speaker 8: love the fact that I can go and listen to

32:55 Speaker 8: lots of old things and discover so many new things,

33:00 Speaker 8: Like every day, I feel like I'm just learning something.

33:02 Speaker 8: News on one level just this constant, constantly abundant, wonderful thing.

33:08 Speaker 8: But on another level, it's like it kind of takes

33:12 Speaker 8: away this sort of preciousness of like there's something special

33:16 Speaker 8: to me about you know, I still remember hearing things

33:20 Speaker 8: on college radio, Like I remember just kind of you know,

33:24 Speaker 8: being in la and hearing things on KCRW morning becomes

33:27 Speaker 8: eclectic in real time, and just like I still remember

33:31 Speaker 8: those kind of moments of hearing something. And I think,

33:34 Speaker 8: if you know, I think there's there's got a I

33:38 Speaker 8: hope there's a way to get back to that. And

33:41 Speaker 8: I kind of think that a lot of it has

33:43 Speaker 8: to do with or maybe part of the solutionistic is

33:48 Speaker 8: partially you know, like I love the fact that people

33:50 Speaker 8: are getting back into physical things like you know, vinyl

33:55 Speaker 8: and CDs. I have a twenty year old daughter who

33:58 Speaker 8: like is just in love with music. Is all about

34:01 Speaker 8: you know, going out and finding actual physical versions of music.

34:06 Speaker 8: Like I think that there still needs to be that

34:08 Speaker 8: element of that making it precious, right, And yeah, so

34:13 Speaker 8: I don't know, like it's a it is a mixed bag.

34:18 Speaker 8: And I also think too, like there's a sort of

34:21 Speaker 8: adjacent thing I think in the world right now is

34:23 Speaker 8: like you know, things like AI where more than ever,

34:28 Speaker 8: I think being being human and being real and something

34:33 Speaker 8: doing like bands playing in real time is such an

34:37 Speaker 8: important kind of thing. And it's kind of made me

34:40 Speaker 8: think that you know, one one thing we that that

34:44 Speaker 8: I really am excited about with the Dan Builders is

34:46 Speaker 8: it's such a it's such a joy to play with

34:48 Speaker 8: these people, and I want to just capture that live,

34:51 Speaker 8: raw sound right as well. That's a really long response

34:58 Speaker 8: to your simple question.

35:00 Speaker 14: No, that's that's okay. I mean we are we are

35:03 Speaker 14: very fortunate. You know, I'm a gen x er, so

35:05 Speaker 14: you know, my you know, I'm not sure how old

35:07 Speaker 14: you are, but Gen X, of course the last generation

35:10 Speaker 14: to really grow up without the Internet. And yeah, I

35:13 Speaker 14: do agree, I do agree with obviously it has devalued

35:16 Speaker 14: music in a way, although I do love as you

35:19 Speaker 14: as you mentioned, you know, we live in a time

35:21 Speaker 14: where you can hear anything you want to at literally

35:23 Speaker 14: at any time, and that's that's pretty amazing.

35:27 Speaker 8: It is, it really really is. It's just I mean,

35:30 Speaker 8: because on the other hand, you know, I guess it's

35:33 Speaker 8: sort of like a lot of things, you know, like

35:37 Speaker 8: just a dumb example, like it just kind of comes

35:39 Speaker 8: to mind sort of immediately, but like a band that like, uh,

35:45 Speaker 8: you know that I never really listen to you ever,

35:51 Speaker 8: as it's kind of funny, like my sort of boomer

35:54 Speaker 8: uncle who kind of gave me all of his like

35:56 Speaker 8: classic rock records, the same thing where neither one of

35:59 Speaker 8: us really ever listened to the band A Little Feet

36:02 Speaker 8: and like, you know, little Feet something like like now

36:04 Speaker 8: I can stream it and I listened to it and go, god, man,

36:06 Speaker 8: I wish I had heard this stuff a long time ago,

36:08 Speaker 8: but the reality was, you know, back then you would

36:11 Speaker 8: buy the records that you bought, and you know, There's

36:14 Speaker 8: there's also that thing of like, there are definitely records

36:19 Speaker 8: that I owned that that I that are probably not

36:24 Speaker 8: really great records, but just because I owned them, I

36:27 Speaker 8: kind of like made myself. It's like a Stockholm syndrome

36:30 Speaker 8: thing where I made myself like them, but but I

36:33 Speaker 8: still like remember them super fondly, and that's kind of

36:37 Speaker 8: you know, that's sort of like the weird thing about

36:39 Speaker 8: I don't know, just having access to things versus you know,

36:43 Speaker 8: the thing that you own, the thing that you went

36:44 Speaker 8: out and bought. You know. Yeah, and it yeah, it's

36:50 Speaker 8: it's you know, it's hard, it's hard not to it

36:55 Speaker 8: is like this is Okay, here's a sort of sidebar

36:58 Speaker 8: thing that I find really fascinating. There's a there's a

37:04 Speaker 8: new recording software thing that's kind of like, from what

37:08 Speaker 8: I can tell, there's been all these like you know,

37:10 Speaker 8: social media posts about it, and there's a lot of

37:15 Speaker 8: excitement around it, but it's a it's a technology that

37:19 Speaker 8: basically emulates the old school sixteen track you know, or

37:23 Speaker 8: twenty four track recorders, okay, and unlike typical digital audio

37:28 Speaker 8: workstation types of things where you can see waveforms and

37:30 Speaker 8: go in and edit them you can't do any of that.

37:33 Speaker 8: You just have to record it and there's nothing to

37:35 Speaker 8: look at. You have to If it's not good, you

37:37 Speaker 8: can punch If your performance wasn't perfect, you can punch

37:40 Speaker 8: in or punch out, or just re record it. And

37:44 Speaker 8: it's really interesting to see all these kind of gen

37:48 Speaker 8: Z kids getting super excited about those imposed limitations. Yeah,

37:55 Speaker 8: and it's yeah, it's I think it's sort of adjacent

37:58 Speaker 8: to that, the idea of like, you know, the physical

38:01 Speaker 8: product is sort of like there was a different there

38:04 Speaker 8: was even a different way of making music back in

38:06 Speaker 8: those days.

38:07 Speaker 14: Right right, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's it's interesting how vinyl is. Uh,

38:14 Speaker 14: you know a lot of young people will buy vinyl

38:16 Speaker 14: now too, although I think that I think that when

38:18 Speaker 14: they're buying new vinyl, they never actually open it. They're

38:21 Speaker 14: just you know, if it's cool too, if you're really

38:23 Speaker 14: a fan of somebody, it's it's nice to have the vinyl,

38:26 Speaker 14: you know, and maybe just mount the cover on your

38:28 Speaker 14: wall or something almost like that. But but but nothing

38:32 Speaker 14: sounds better than vinyl. We actually have a vinyl record

38:34 Speaker 14: player here in the I think only one. I think

38:37 Speaker 14: there's only one show that actually uses it. But we

38:38 Speaker 14: have a record player here in the studio that the

38:42 Speaker 14: one one of the guys uses, Yeah, DJ Steve, I

38:45 Speaker 14: think he uses it. But but yeah, nothing, nothing sounds

38:47 Speaker 14: better than vinyl. And it's you know, it's never gone

38:49 Speaker 14: away completely and it's it's definitely out of resurgence over

38:52 Speaker 14: the last few years, which is nice. And you know,

38:54 Speaker 14: even CDs, a lot a lot of artists are releasing

38:57 Speaker 14: CDs who had kind of given up on them at

38:59 Speaker 14: one point, you know.

39:01 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, when I was putting out records with my

39:04 Speaker 8: band Grahamsey Arms, like the last record I released, all

39:06 Speaker 8: these people WROP like other CDs and it was like CDs,

39:10 Speaker 8: CDs and I get it actually, like I I got it,

39:14 Speaker 8: you know, just going around to like local kind of

39:16 Speaker 8: like used record and CDs tours, like it's kind of fun.

39:20 Speaker 8: You know, it's fun playing old CDs as well, like

39:23 Speaker 8: they sound really good. Yeah, you know they're uh, you

39:27 Speaker 8: know they are what they are. It's but it's it

39:29 Speaker 8: is kind of funny. I agree. It's it's sort of

39:31 Speaker 8: like you know, to me, it's like, why wouldn't you

39:34 Speaker 8: just get the vinyl? Right?

39:37 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm also curious to ask you too about your

39:40 Speaker 14: other work because you've after the dam Builders. Uh, tell

39:43 Speaker 14: me if I've got the timeline right, but I assume

39:45 Speaker 14: it was after the after the dam Builder's initial run,

39:49 Speaker 14: you worked in TV and film music, and you worked

39:52 Speaker 14: with another New Hampshire person, Sarah Silverman. She's from here.

39:57 Speaker 2: Yeah.

39:59 Speaker 8: I love Sarah Silverman. She's The thing that is so

40:01 Speaker 8: true is like, what's so funny is she always plays

40:05 Speaker 8: this like sort of you know, kind of mean girl,

40:09 Speaker 8: and she's like one of the sweetest, nicest people you'll

40:11 Speaker 8: ever meet.

40:12 Speaker 14: I've heard that in this world.

40:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so down to earth and cool. And it

40:17 Speaker 8: was really wonderful collaborating with her. And and she's just

40:22 Speaker 8: a she's a real sweetheart. Like I just I wish

40:26 Speaker 8: I saw her more often, but yeah, I for yeah,

40:33 Speaker 8: And it's it's it's funny. I worked in I did

40:35 Speaker 8: like a bunch of stuff for probably about like eight

40:37 Speaker 8: or nine years, and and a lot of like writing

40:42 Speaker 8: and production and just kind of you know, just got

40:46 Speaker 8: to work on shows and advertisement and you know, kind

40:52 Speaker 8: of everything in between. Even did some like it's very

40:55 Speaker 8: strange kind of la pop songwriting stuff. I actually really

41:00 Speaker 8: the song Yeah, I actually co wrote a song for

41:03 Speaker 8: Hannah Montana as well as Demi Levado and Selena Gomez.

41:09 Speaker 8: Wow today with yeah, with my business partners who were

41:13 Speaker 8: kind of more so plugged into that world. Okay, and

41:16 Speaker 8: that was freaky and weird. That's interesting.

41:20 Speaker 14: Moment sounds fun though.

41:23 Speaker 8: That was total fun. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

41:24 Speaker 14: So during during all that time when you when you're

41:26 Speaker 14: doing all this, I mean, I'm curious, was it always

41:30 Speaker 14: kind of in the back of your mind that eventually

41:32 Speaker 14: you would get back to the dam Builders or was

41:35 Speaker 14: there a point where that was just totally in your

41:37 Speaker 14: rear view mirror or or what was kind of your

41:39 Speaker 14: your mindset over those years.

41:42 Speaker 8: That's a great question, I think so, I think on

41:46 Speaker 8: some level, I mean, it's kind of I have to say,

41:48 Speaker 8: it's kind of funny that, uh, and I think, you know,

41:52 Speaker 8: maybe this is kind of the way these things go.

41:54 Speaker 8: But to be honest, like as that, when the Tamblers

41:57 Speaker 8: were kind of breaking up, like I think I was

41:58 Speaker 8: probably like leading the charge to break up the band,

42:02 Speaker 8: I was like so over it, you know, really reasons

42:04 Speaker 8: that are not even worth going into. But now I've

42:08 Speaker 8: become like the most you know, I'm like the evangelist

42:11 Speaker 8: of the Damblers like and.

42:13 Speaker 16: I have been for like, you know, for a while,

42:16 Speaker 16: and I kind of I think and I also I've

42:18 Speaker 16: just you know, in a way it was there was

42:23 Speaker 16: so much.

42:25 Speaker 8: It was my life for a long, you know, period

42:30 Speaker 8: of time when I was younger. When you know that,

42:33 Speaker 8: it does like when eight years of your life is

42:35 Speaker 8: like a lot. Now it's like you get older and

42:37 Speaker 8: it's just like time just whizzes by. But uh, there

42:42 Speaker 8: was a lot to it. There was a lot of

42:44 Speaker 8: emotional connection to it. And when I was finished with it,

42:49 Speaker 8: I really like I kind of look back and I

42:51 Speaker 8: feel like I really tried to do something, to really

42:54 Speaker 8: go in an opposite direction in a bunch of different ways.

42:57 Speaker 8: And and now I I'm just so proud of it

43:01 Speaker 8: and so grateful to have made music with everyone who's

43:07 Speaker 8: in the band and just to have collaborated with them,

43:09 Speaker 8: and I love them so much as people, and I

43:13 Speaker 8: really I'm just very proud of what we did. I think,

43:17 Speaker 8: you know, I really do think that the Damn Builders,

43:21 Speaker 8: like for better or worse, it's a band that just

43:25 Speaker 8: was unique. I don't think there really was any band

43:28 Speaker 8: that we could say, like, oh, they sound exactly like that.

43:30 Speaker 8: I mean, there are elements kind of sounded similar to

43:34 Speaker 8: other things, but it was just a it was a

43:37 Speaker 8: very original and vibrant thing. And I am my my

43:43 Speaker 8: goal with doing it now and you know, and it's

43:46 Speaker 8: funny because I actually sat down the other day and

43:47 Speaker 8: I was like, what am I? What am I trying

43:49 Speaker 8: to accomplish with this? And it's really just to honor

43:54 Speaker 8: the legacy of it and actually hopefully introduced some new people,

43:58 Speaker 8: you know, who might have missed it the first time around,

44:01 Speaker 8: Like one thing is super cool, like just doing the

44:04 Speaker 8: two shows that we did. You know, there are a

44:06 Speaker 8: few people that came up were younger people who had

44:09 Speaker 8: just heard about us and or read about us sort of.

44:12 Speaker 8: I think in this way that folks are kind of

44:14 Speaker 8: like discovering things from the nineties, and to me, that's

44:18 Speaker 8: what it's all about. It's just like, yeah, yeah, so

44:22 Speaker 8: more of that, please.

44:23 Speaker 14: Absolutely, no, that's gonna be very validating.

44:27 Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, and it's it is.

44:30 Speaker 8: You know, it's just interesting to me too, like even

44:33 Speaker 8: music from that era. I mean, it's just been kind

44:35 Speaker 8: of interesting just my daughter's take on things that were

44:39 Speaker 8: from that era that like, honestly, you know, for whatever reason,

44:42 Speaker 8: I might have had some sort of predisposed notion to that,

44:46 Speaker 8: you know, from my like nineteen ninety six mind or whatever,

44:50 Speaker 8: and I listened to it. You know, she'll say, what

44:53 Speaker 8: about listen to this and it's like, oh my god,

44:55 Speaker 8: this is amazing, Like, yeah, I didn't realize how great

44:58 Speaker 8: this was. It's like another artist like that time. So

45:02 Speaker 8: it's really interesting to kind of go back and listen

45:04 Speaker 8: to those things and kind of kind of remove that

45:06 Speaker 8: sort of those emotional connections.

45:08 Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah, I do want to ask you, Dave, because

45:13 Speaker 14: and we're starting to run out of time, but I

45:16 Speaker 14: do want to, uh, because at the end of our conversation,

45:19 Speaker 14: you know, we played Shrine earlier. I want to play

45:22 Speaker 14: the song. I hope we're not too late. And yeah,

45:25 Speaker 14: I'm curious about this. So what I mean, does the

45:28 Speaker 14: title me to have any relation to to I mean,

45:31 Speaker 14: is this kind of the mindset or or a part

45:34 Speaker 14: of the mindset that you've had going into this.

45:38 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's it's so Kevin. Kevin March really

45:42 Speaker 8: came up with the main part of the song, and

45:46 Speaker 8: he has this incredible ability to when he writes songs

45:51 Speaker 8: and then and then you know, he has this like

45:56 Speaker 8: he writes lyrics that are so simple and so like

45:59 Speaker 8: seriously evocative and personal and like like and deep like

46:06 Speaker 8: in a way, and they're just like and just and

46:10 Speaker 8: you know, his idea of it was like originally he was,

46:15 Speaker 8: you know, thinking about it as like it's like, I

46:16 Speaker 8: hope we're not too late to like a party or something.

46:18 Speaker 8: But it's really like, and I hope we're not too

46:21 Speaker 8: late in this moment, like to be coming back to

46:24 Speaker 8: be are you know, it's like fear. It's a kind

46:27 Speaker 8: of fomo, but it's like, I I hope we're not

46:30 Speaker 8: too late as and this is you know, I've heard

46:32 Speaker 8: him say this as well. It's like he originally thought

46:35 Speaker 8: it was like I hope we're not too late. It's

46:36 Speaker 8: just like people or it's like a species like on

46:40 Speaker 8: this planet, and it just he love, he loves to write.

46:43 Speaker 8: He's so good at writing things that can they're just

46:46 Speaker 8: you can interpret them in different ways. Sure, And and

46:49 Speaker 8: so I kind of helped and the rest of the

46:51 Speaker 8: band kind of helped to write the rest of the song.

46:53 Speaker 8: And it was a little bit more about like kind.

46:54 Speaker 17: Of like you know, we kind of thinking that we've

46:59 Speaker 17: kind of been here before, and that's I find something

47:04 Speaker 17: to me, that's something lyrically I've kind of been coming

47:08 Speaker 17: out and things I've been writing of.

47:10 Speaker 8: Just you know, we're kind of a sort of connection

47:12 Speaker 8: to the past. The other thing about the song that

47:15 Speaker 8: I really love, that's really, you know, to me, is

47:18 Speaker 8: just I think what's so great about it sort of

47:21 Speaker 8: pairing it with Shrine, is that it really gets to

47:25 Speaker 8: the spirit of the Damn Builders that I think, you know,

47:31 Speaker 8: Sean and Claudia really represent a very similar kind of

47:36 Speaker 8: mindset that Joan and Eric have had. That is that

47:41 Speaker 8: sort of embrace of improvisation and creativity and sort of

47:48 Speaker 8: collective creativity and that spirit. I mean, it's like, really

47:52 Speaker 8: that song came out of us kind of jamming together

47:56 Speaker 8: and finding something different, and that is really that is

48:02 Speaker 8: such an important element of the Dan Builders, and I

48:05 Speaker 8: feel really glad that we were able to kind of

48:08 Speaker 8: combine and kind of bring that in in and also

48:12 Speaker 8: really kind of give Kevin more of a voice because

48:16 Speaker 8: his writing has really come. I mean, he's just writing

48:20 Speaker 8: tons of stuff, I mean, and we're working on new songs,

48:23 Speaker 8: you know, and it's just really amazing to kind of

48:27 Speaker 8: tap into his creativity and I think in the Dan Builders,

48:30 Speaker 8: like you know, the last record that we made together

48:34 Speaker 8: Against Stars is really kind of Joan coming out and

48:39 Speaker 8: stepping into the front. And I feel like there's a

48:41 Speaker 8: lot of this with Kevin kind of in the future.

48:44 Speaker 8: I think, like like his literal voice, but his songwriting

48:50 Speaker 8: voice is just getting stronger and stronger, and it's it's

48:54 Speaker 8: it just makes me really happy, like I'm very excited

48:57 Speaker 8: about it. And as you look forward to the future.

49:00 Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really like this track a lot.

49:02 Speaker 14: And I do think too, you know, some of the

49:04 Speaker 14: lyrical themes that you're talking about, I think they're relatable

49:06 Speaker 14: for people because I think everyone has has something, you know,

49:11 Speaker 14: at least one thing in their life where they you know,

49:13 Speaker 14: something they want to do, something they want to accomplish,

49:15 Speaker 14: maybe something they used to do that they want to

49:16 Speaker 14: go back to. And that's kind of that thought. Yeah,

49:18 Speaker 14: and like, oh, I hope it's not too late, you know.

49:21 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, I think everyone can do with that.

49:24 Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:27 Speaker 8: And I find myself thinking a lot too about things,

49:30 Speaker 8: you know, just I think I think it's just maybe

49:34 Speaker 8: a natural thing of just getting older where you start

49:36 Speaker 8: to think about like what is my time on this

49:39 Speaker 8: earth really mean, you know, like and what what am

49:42 Speaker 8: I like connected to? That's part of the past, that

49:45 Speaker 8: and maybe part of the future, and that to me

49:48 Speaker 8: is that's kind of where I was trying to take

49:49 Speaker 8: the other part of the song. But sort of like

49:51 Speaker 8: you know, it's like it's not really answering any questions

49:55 Speaker 8: and the like the sort of to me, the really

49:59 Speaker 8: provocative questions that Kevin is asking, right right. But yeah,

50:03 Speaker 8: So so there's a brand new song that we're working

50:07 Speaker 8: on where Kevin just has another really simple lyric that's

50:10 Speaker 8: like I hope you make it back home and it's

50:14 Speaker 8: like it is it's almost like the flip side of

50:17 Speaker 8: that and it's really powerful and I can't wait to

50:22 Speaker 8: you know, record it and yeah, all that good stuff.

50:25 Speaker 14: Wow, Yeah, we look forward to hearing it. Dave, Dave Derby,

50:28 Speaker 14: this has been wonderful. We'll definitely have to do this

50:30 Speaker 14: again in the future. We'll let you go in a

50:33 Speaker 14: moment and we'll hit that track. I hope we're not

50:35 Speaker 14: too late. But before we do that, where's where's the

50:37 Speaker 14: best place for people to go online to keep up

50:39 Speaker 14: with everything that the dam Builders is doing?

50:42 Speaker 8: Okay, probably best places are like you know, Instagram, the

50:47 Speaker 8: Dam Builders also Facebook, the dam Builders. Yea, those are

50:51 Speaker 8: a few main places. Yeah, and more to come. I

50:56 Speaker 8: mean there's definitely you know, like I said, we will

50:58 Speaker 8: be there's some rare the stuff will be sharing. Uh

51:02 Speaker 8: not sure about that release new recordings, so just look

51:06 Speaker 8: at that, and then also that the documentary we'll share

51:10 Speaker 8: it there. There's also you know similar it's called you know,

51:13 Speaker 8: it's called The dam Builders Film. Okay, so like Instagram,

51:17 Speaker 8: the Dan Bilders Film, Facebook, the Dan Builders Film. But

51:21 Speaker 8: that's early days. We're still still in production.

51:24 Speaker 14: I guess you could say, okay, okay, you've got a

51:26 Speaker 14: lot of good stuff coming up. That's that's wonderful, all right, Dave,

51:30 Speaker 14: very good again, Dave Derby, thank you so much. We'll

51:33 Speaker 14: let you go and we will hit that track. But

51:35 Speaker 14: thank you so much and we will do it again

51:38 Speaker 14: absolutely all right.

51:39 Speaker 2: You take care bye by bye by bye.

51:42 Speaker 12: All right.

51:43 Speaker 14: That is Dave Derby from the Dam Builders. And yeah,

51:46 Speaker 14: I really like this song a lot. Let's give this

51:48 Speaker 14: a spend. This is called I hope We're not too

51:50 Speaker 14: late brand new from the Dam Builders.

52:01 Speaker 15: Look at Toole, look at.

52:14 Speaker 9: Hey, look not.

52:22 Speaker 12: Oh, dot to dot to dot to.

52:38 Speaker 13: Dot to.

52:45 Speaker 11: Look not to.

52:52 Speaker 12: Look at.

52:57 Speaker 15: HEYOK, got to, got to, got to, got to go

53:22 Speaker 15: to the ris make needs of n That thought is not.

53:32 Speaker 12: Liked, not.

53:48 Speaker 11: To hold.

54:00 Speaker 15: The be.

55:00 Speaker 12: When the disposed to can just sc that.

55:14 Speaker 15: Has speak what is spelled and ban shop is disposed to.

55:38 Speaker 11: Cant and the past.

55:46 Speaker 12: Is spelled.

55:54 Speaker 15: God.

56:11 Speaker 14: I love that song brand new from the dam Builders.

56:14 Speaker 14: I hope we're not too late. And thank you again

56:16 Speaker 14: to Dave Derby from the Dam Builders for joining us today.

56:20 Speaker 14: I really enjoyed talking with him a lot and they've

56:22 Speaker 14: got a lot coming up. He's got a lot coming up,

56:24 Speaker 14: so we will definitely do that again in the near future.

56:26 Speaker 14: And thank you again. Also in the second hour today

56:28 Speaker 14: we had Mike Lachlan joining us in studio and always

56:31 Speaker 14: great to hang out with him, and he played some

56:33 Speaker 14: songs for us. I love the new stuff, the new

56:35 Speaker 14: things he's written. We are rapidly running out of time,

56:38 Speaker 14: really really quick. If you are listening live and again,

56:41 Speaker 14: this is Matt Connorton Unleash here from the studios of

56:43 Speaker 14: WM and H ninety five point three FM in Manchester,

56:46 Speaker 14: New Hampshire. If you are living, if you are listening

56:49 Speaker 14: live on Saturday, May sixteen. You can tell him rushing

56:53 Speaker 14: just really quick this afternoon. Doors open at three pm

56:56 Speaker 14: at Jewel Music Venue, right across the street from where

57:00 Speaker 14: there we are at Canal Street. Please come by, I say,

57:03 Speaker 14: please come by, because I will be there. Kings Court

57:05 Speaker 14: Booking and Jewel Music Venue presents Beaten and Bruised. It

57:09 Speaker 14: is a festival. Bunch of great bands. On the main

57:12 Speaker 14: stage forty below. Summer is headlining, along with Scarecrow Hill, Inverter,

57:18 Speaker 14: Creation from Crisis, The Gray Curtain, Primora, Lucky Shot and Grim.

57:23 Speaker 14: That is all happening on the main stage. Second stage

57:27 Speaker 14: Fear the Mass is Enough of Me, Bailwick, Fall of

57:29 Speaker 14: Atlantis Tomorrow, I'm told, Throttle, Hide, and Orbiter. Several of

57:33 Speaker 14: these bands have been on the show. I've been on

57:35 Speaker 14: this show and so I'm looking forward to seeing them.

57:38 Speaker 14: Of course, the Gray Curtain I have never gotten to

57:40 Speaker 14: see live, or Scarecrow Hill or Inverter, so really looking

57:44 Speaker 14: forward to that. So that is doors open at three

57:47 Speaker 14: show starts at three thirty. Tickets are twenty five in advance,

57:51 Speaker 14: thirty at the door. Please come by. It is an

57:53 Speaker 14: eighteen plus show and then tonight at the shaskiing on

57:57 Speaker 14: Elm Street right here in Manchester. Mike Frasier is going

58:02 Speaker 14: to be there. He's been on the show touring artists

58:04 Speaker 14: from Seattle, but he is in the area. He's gonna

58:06 Speaker 14: be playing tonight along with Regals. And let's see, there

58:10 Speaker 14: was somebody else on that show too. I forget who

58:13 Speaker 14: it was, but I can't remember Phil McKelvey something like that. Anyway,

58:19 Speaker 14: I apologize if that person is listening, but I'm trying

58:21 Speaker 14: to rush and get it all out because we are

58:23 Speaker 14: just about out of time. Matt Connorton Unleashed. Thank you

58:27 Speaker 14: everyone for joining me today on the program. If you

58:29 Speaker 14: missed any partner the show, it will be up in

58:31 Speaker 14: just a little bit Wmnhradio dot org at my website

58:34 Speaker 14: Matt Connorton dot com. That's it, talking to Joe a

58:36 Speaker 14: little bit later.

58:36 Speaker 12: Bye, everybody,