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Mike Loughlin | Matt Connarton Unleashed
Speaker 1: Well, check that out. That is a recording of a
Speaker 1: live rehearsal there from our friend and studio who we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to in just a moment. Welcome everybody.
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Speaker 1: that if you haven't already. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: were with us in the first hour of the show today,
Speaker 1: I just heard from Dave Derby from the Dan Builders.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be joining us during the first
Speaker 1: hour but ran into an issue, but we might get
Speaker 1: him on in the hour today, so this might all
Speaker 1: work out. But let's focus on right now because our
Speaker 1: friend Mike Lachlan is here in studio. Let me get
Speaker 1: those Uh, Mike's up there. How you doing, Mike, Let's
Speaker 1: see keep talking?
Speaker 2: Is it good? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go?
Speaker 2: Are we unleashed? Here? Is this unleashed too?
Speaker 1: This is Matt Connorton unleash and we are live from
Speaker 1: the studios of wh Sorry it's from my guitar a
Speaker 1: little please, would you? Oh that sounds gorgeous. Well, that
Speaker 1: sounds so good. That sounds so good. So Mike Lachlan
Speaker 1: of course, And I got to adjust this camera because
Speaker 1: you gotta have a camera on you, Mike Lachlan, very
Speaker 1: old friend. Yeah, I always say I was saying this
Speaker 1: this morning when I was talking about who's coming on
Speaker 1: the show today, And you've heard me say this a
Speaker 1: thousand times. I can always remember exactly how long I've
Speaker 1: known you. You remember why, right I do? I met you?
Speaker 1: I think it was literally the week of nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: We have that power over the event, our friendship. I
Speaker 2: could make a really horrible joke, but I won't, but
Speaker 2: I'll leave it.
Speaker 1: There too soon. Yeah no, but uh, but that that
Speaker 1: is very easy to remember, how long I've known you.
Speaker 1: So it's been twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, it's time. Time doesn't just fly,
Speaker 2: It's it's so fleeting. It's I don't even it feels like,
Speaker 2: honestly like ten years ago, but like it's twenty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes faster. You notice it goes faster as
Speaker 1: we get older.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a downward spiral toward the toilet bottom.
Speaker 2: You know that. It's like it it goes quicker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sucks. Have you noticed that how much
Speaker 1: it sucks?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That it works out, works more. Ye, my knees, it's
Speaker 1: all terrible. I don't have any of those problems yet.
Speaker 1: I'm actually holding up really well. But uh see, I
Speaker 1: assume because I like, physically I still feel like I'm
Speaker 1: twenty five. But I think what that is is I'm
Speaker 1: just one of those people who I'm just gonna wake
Speaker 1: up one day and it's all gonna crash all at once.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna wake up one morning with debilitating
Speaker 1: back pain and can barely walk and it's just gonna
Speaker 1: it's just all gonna hit me all at the same time.
Speaker 2: I think, Yes, I so do you? How are your
Speaker 2: eyes good, so am mine. I have really good eyes too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's it's a I keep the same way you
Speaker 2: just said. I've heard from many people, including a brother
Speaker 2: of mine, that like, it's you're fine, and then the cliff, right,
Speaker 2: it just comes. I'm like, all right, yeah, yeah, not
Speaker 2: that we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd rather I think I like it the way
Speaker 1: I like it, the way I'm maintaining for now, at least,
Speaker 1: because I can still delude myself into just thinking I'm
Speaker 1: going to feel this way forever, even though you know
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see the cliff coming. But I
Speaker 1: guess you're not supposed to see the cliff coming now,
Speaker 1: would or it wouldn't be the cliff.
Speaker 2: But remember, you're not a mere mortal Matt. You are
Speaker 2: a former mister Olympian. So that's that is a thing
Speaker 2: that you you were not just amongst us minions here,
Speaker 2: You're you're a man amongst men.
Speaker 1: Thank you for mentioning that. Nobody ever brings that up,
Speaker 1: that I'm a former mister Olympian.
Speaker 2: It is on your IMDb. I thought it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, nobody ever gives me credit for it, though, it's
Speaker 1: almost like they think it's fake or something.
Speaker 2: I don't consider it fake. That's really checks. Don't check,
Speaker 2: don't look up, don't doubt it, don't look for real facts.
Speaker 2: Just just accept truth. Yes, when it comes from the
Speaker 2: mouth of anyone, it's more fun, That's what I say.
Speaker 2: It's more fun.
Speaker 1: Exactly well said Sir Well said, So, of course you
Speaker 1: are a musician from the area rumored to be Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how's your life schedule been, You've been playing a lot.
Speaker 2: I've been playing. I mean, I know the last time
Speaker 2: I talked to you, I think I told you that
Speaker 2: I have like a vocal condition that kind of makes
Speaker 2: it rougher for me to play consistently, like back to
Speaker 2: back nights and right like that.
Speaker 1: So so you're still dealing with that.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a chronic thing.
Speaker 1: I was told, so like as in, you're just stuck
Speaker 1: with it forever.
Speaker 2: I can manage it. But it's like it probably, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, there's certain I was told dietary
Speaker 2: habits can change things, but I want a really strict
Speaker 2: diet and I didn't see any difference. So it's like,
Speaker 2: this is not fun. Oh wow, So you know it's
Speaker 2: it's I think part of it's probably psychological. You start
Speaker 2: overthinking because it's all about your tent, my tension in
Speaker 2: my vocal cords. Yeah, so if you get nervous or
Speaker 2: you start thinking about it too much, that becomes a
Speaker 2: par with your vocal cords because your upper body tenses up.
Speaker 1: Oh so, so it works the same as ed as
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just put it in the same let's
Speaker 2: put it in the same category.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, So so how do you how do you
Speaker 1: manage that? So do you just you just don't play?
Speaker 2: I don't play. I can play basically. I play mostly
Speaker 2: once a week. Okay, sometimes twice, but that's rare. It
Speaker 2: stinks because I really, over the years and you've known me,
Speaker 2: I've I love playing in bands and I miss doing that.
Speaker 2: But the way of doing if I had rehearsal time
Speaker 2: and then gigs, that would make it really hard for me.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, I didn't even think of that part because.
Speaker 2: I'd be and I'm a pretty I go for it vocally,
Speaker 2: so it's hard for me to kind of just I
Speaker 2: can't just fake it and be like, Okay, tonight, we're
Speaker 2: going to do this and all this. But like the
Speaker 2: whole feeling of a practice even is come of the
Speaker 2: same as a live gig for me, so whis No,
Speaker 2: maybe that's wrong to do, but that's just the way
Speaker 2: it is for me, so right right.
Speaker 1: Wow, while I'm dying to hear you play, I haven't.
Speaker 1: It's been so long since when was the last time
Speaker 1: you're on the show? I know it's been at least
Speaker 1: a couple of years, because this is your first time
Speaker 1: in the news studio.
Speaker 2: It's three or four years ago. Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: don't wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, I can't be that one.
Speaker 2: Four years ago sounds right, right? Maybe three? I remember
Speaker 2: you had who's the guy who? You had a great
Speaker 2: photo on the wall of a painting of one of
Speaker 2: your uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was probably Gonzo because because we used to
Speaker 1: have a lot of his.
Speaker 2: Artwork in the old studio front of some guy's head,
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh yeah, theograft head.
Speaker 1: The giant cardboard Peter whitehead.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's great, I remember that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, A little little less space here. This room
Speaker 1: is smaller, but but it's better, you know. The new
Speaker 1: building is wonderful. It's funny when I first found out
Speaker 1: we were moving here, because this used to be a
Speaker 1: bus station, and it still shows up on Google as
Speaker 1: a bus station, which is why there's even a sign
Speaker 1: on the building that says we do not sell bus
Speaker 1: tickets here because sometimes why people still ring the doorbell
Speaker 1: wanting bus tickets. It's crazy. But uh, when we've when
Speaker 1: I found out we were first moving here, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: the building is going to be too small. We're moving
Speaker 1: there really, but it's kind of like one of those
Speaker 1: magic buildings where you walk in side and there's actually
Speaker 1: a lot more space on it than you would expect.
Speaker 2: It's like that movie back Rooms. Have you seen the
Speaker 2: trailer for that? No, it's like some old it's a
Speaker 2: YouTube thing from years ago. Oh really, but it's like
Speaker 2: one of those old industrial buildings. Yeah, that just seems
Speaker 2: to go on forever. Yeah, and that that's kind of
Speaker 2: the premise. It's like this weird space that's in there,
Speaker 2: that's like, how is this keep going?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's kind of it looks like this.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting to be had, it's interesting. Yeah. Well I'm dying.
Speaker 1: Are you play?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna play for us?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a new song called on deaf Ears.
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Laughlan here with us live in studio.
Speaker 4: You don't on your high horse.
Speaker 3: I want to see you ride somewhere aware of the righteous.
Speaker 4: Singing the sing le or his side.
Speaker 5: Let me be whitneys your lemma here, ain't ma'am from
Speaker 5: the congregation singing songs for only them?
Speaker 4: Maybe again, I'm you blind to see? But I don't
Speaker 4: they send men for me. I just want me taking
Speaker 4: for I high hide forty five found the words you sing?
Speaker 6: I would he speak the man anyway because I'm going
Speaker 6: where they be falling on ever.
Speaker 4: Again. See that I'm shining halos. I see the tears
Speaker 4: you shed.
Speaker 6: It's the only when there's eyes a round of siege.
Speaker 1: Just what you did, because.
Speaker 4: Every thing is our texts.
Speaker 3: Now, everything's for sale, currencies you and me.
Speaker 4: I saw.
Speaker 2: So what is Bill?
Speaker 4: Maybe he how't you're blind to see?
Speaker 6: But I know all this ain't meant for me, and
Speaker 6: I just want to take him for I hide. What
Speaker 6: if I found the words you say? I want here
Speaker 6: speak the man anyway.
Speaker 4: Because I know they be falling around ever.
Speaker 7: Again, and there everything there it was, He's upside down.
Speaker 6: And maybe you're just finally see I'm.
Speaker 4: Not play a lord.
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm just trying to see, I know on the
Speaker 6: same man for me.
Speaker 4: And night you's gonna be taken for. I hide.
Speaker 6: For if I've found the words you say, Oh Blain
Speaker 6: speak the man in wait.
Speaker 4: Of course I go where they be falling around Ethie again.
Speaker 8: Around ethe skin, around thee again.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. Oh that was great.
Speaker 1: See what's that called again?
Speaker 2: On deaf ears?
Speaker 1: On deaf ears? What a great track? If you're just
Speaker 1: joining us are a great song I should say not a
Speaker 1: track because it's not prerecorded, but welcome everybody, if you
Speaker 1: are just joining us. Mike Lachlan is here with us
Speaker 1: live in studio. That is wonderful. Now when did you
Speaker 1: write that? Was that recent?
Speaker 2: Probably in the last five months. Really, it's pretty four
Speaker 2: or five months, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Pretty fresh. Yeah. Well, any particular inspiration for that, I.
Speaker 2: Would just call somewhat social media madness, gotcha, gotcha. I
Speaker 2: mean that that warmhole of bottomless pit of nothing that
Speaker 2: I think is killing us and destroying us is that's
Speaker 2: kind of the inspiration somewhat. It's it's not an obvious
Speaker 2: but it's like partly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've been talking about that a lot on
Speaker 1: You've been posting about that well actually over the years,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I saw something just the other
Speaker 1: day about it that you posted.
Speaker 2: I use it just for my own I always called
Speaker 2: about a digital bathroom stall like it's not like, it's
Speaker 2: not I expect nothing. It's just a way to I
Speaker 2: usually do either try to provoke by a thought, not
Speaker 2: like intentionally to try and be a provocateur, but just
Speaker 2: to kind of provoke thought or it's not it's nonsense
Speaker 2: and it's and I don't I don't think it's healthy
Speaker 2: for us. Especially. Facebook's unique that way because Facebook is
Speaker 2: people that are first of all, it's old people now,
Speaker 2: but it's a but it's mostly friends. It's not like
Speaker 2: Twitter or the artist formally known as twitter x. It's
Speaker 2: not like that where you're just shooting it off into
Speaker 2: the ether with people you don't know's it's people you
Speaker 2: know and then you start hating on each other. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I was way too engaged like years ago, and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is horrible for my mental health.
Speaker 2: It was Dad, and I was like, all right, this
Speaker 2: is supposed to just be fun and silly, and I
Speaker 2: think I take I kind of took it that way
Speaker 2: I would take it having a conversation at a bar
Speaker 2: or in person. And I don't think most people are
Speaker 2: that good faith, right, And so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I like discussing. I find the world fascinating. Yeah, tragically
Speaker 2: and beautifully and all that. But like it was, it's
Speaker 2: just not healthy. And I can just talk to me
Speaker 2: about myself. But I can see a million people who
Speaker 2: have the same. Oh yeah, if you're unless you're just unfeeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to like they're there to destroy, then okay,
Speaker 2: like good for you. It's kind of a psychopath but whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my approach to it is, you know, I like
Speaker 1: to post some ghost I don't.
Speaker 2: Uh smart move the same thing I did that long ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't argue with people on
Speaker 1: social media. It might be better for my content if
Speaker 1: I did, you know, in terms of social engagement, because
Speaker 1: I do. You know, we don't on this iteration of Unleashed.
Speaker 1: We don't do political stuff anymore, but as you know,
Speaker 1: we used to when I was on an Afternoon So
Speaker 1: now I keep all that on podcasts, and everything we
Speaker 1: do here is is not I mean, sometimes we dip
Speaker 1: into it because it's almost impossible not to sure, especially
Speaker 1: like if I'm talking to a band who has a
Speaker 1: message that's, you know, one one way or the other. Uh,
Speaker 1: usually only one way. I don't really want to hear
Speaker 1: too much. I don't really want to let too much
Speaker 1: of well, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: have some you know, Maga band on my show. I
Speaker 1: guess this is what I'm trying. I'm not gonna interview
Speaker 1: five Finger Death Punch or something like that. I guess
Speaker 1: that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But but but don't you find that as okay. So
Speaker 2: as an interviewer, though, I would say either way, if
Speaker 2: you're so anti Maga or pro Maga, that's boring to me.
Speaker 2: I can see why you like or dislike. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't understand the it's it's boring.
Speaker 2: As a thinker, I come. I'm always kind of a
Speaker 2: nuanced person, and that gets me hell from everyone right now.
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, I see a play, I can
Speaker 2: go this way and go I see the point. I
Speaker 2: try to be pretty fair in my devil's advocacy, yes,
Speaker 2: and that drives by the way, just for the kids
Speaker 2: at home listening, it's horrible for your brain because it
Speaker 2: makes me feel schizophrenic at the time, right because I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I see this way, but then I see it this way,
Speaker 2: and then I go this way explosion right now, So
Speaker 2: it's like a but it's I don't know, I find pure,
Speaker 2: it's boring.
Speaker 1: Well, A lot of part of the problem is I
Speaker 1: think that we and I've been saying I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: heard me say this before, because I've been saying this
Speaker 1: for literally decades. Critical thinking is so discouraged. You're supposed
Speaker 1: to be a binary thinker. You're supposed to be all
Speaker 1: the way on one end or all the way on
Speaker 1: the other. You're and all of your opinions you're supposed
Speaker 1: to like. You're literally not allowed to say I have
Speaker 1: mixed feelings about this or anything, or I'm conflicted about this,
Speaker 1: because then you get called wishy washy, you get called
Speaker 1: of fence sitter. Yes, you know, you have to be
Speaker 1: and you have to be consistently. If it's politics, you
Speaker 1: have to be consistently all one or all the other,
Speaker 1: or or because everybody eats their own, both liberals and
Speaker 1: conservatives and everybody, you know, they get so mad at
Speaker 1: you if you dare have an independent or a dissenting thought.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very clear, like like I mean, social
Speaker 1: media is more clickish than school was growing up.
Speaker 2: Way worse. Yeah, it's worse because there's an audio into
Speaker 2: watching and that makes the pressure of like did Matt
Speaker 2: just say that? What's going on with Matt?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It's like so, and it's not again as a person,
Speaker 2: and I know you obviously do because you do this
Speaker 2: on shows and I love talking. I hate politics. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I despise it because I think it's basically it's k fabey.
Speaker 2: It's really as a wrestler guy, it really is pro wrestling,
Speaker 2: and I think that people don't. It's so strange to
Speaker 2: me that we all kind of cry about it and
Speaker 2: get all mad about it, but then every four years
Speaker 2: we seem to play the game again and believe it's
Speaker 2: going to be different this time. Right, they're going to
Speaker 2: say I heard a comedian years ago say that every
Speaker 2: like politician should be like a NASCAR driver's jacket and
Speaker 2: have to we to wear their sponsor on their coach
Speaker 2: to go. Ah, I see where you're coming from, because
Speaker 2: everyone's just beholden to their biggest donor exactly. So it's
Speaker 2: like that, let's just be honest about it. So it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they don't have feelings about something. I would say,
Speaker 2: agree with the people. You know, that person who is
Speaker 2: a D locally that you're friends with is not the
Speaker 2: same as a person who's a D in a senator. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the same thing. Are you probably have more in common
Speaker 2: at the local level between and these labels are silly.
Speaker 2: They're anachronistic too. I don't think that D and R
Speaker 2: mean anything anymore. I think that's much more. We're seeing
Speaker 2: a different alignment, I think, but especially right now, it's
Speaker 2: very interesting what's going on right now. Again, it's another
Speaker 2: we're going to do music, but like it's fascinating to
Speaker 2: me and I do like talking about it just on
Speaker 2: social media. It's because it's not the right place for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't argue with people on social media.
Speaker 2: I just headache. Yeah, I've lost friends.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was like for and it's so funny in hindsight,
Speaker 2: I know now that they would be like, oh, that
Speaker 2: was a crazy thing I said, but they ghosted me
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you've known me for twenty
Speaker 2: five years and you thought that that's the interpretation you
Speaker 2: got because I think there was a madness in the
Speaker 2: last ten years that happened. I think that people went nuts,
Speaker 2: and I think it all revolves around the totem that
Speaker 2: is Trump. Yeah, there's a kind of there's a kind
Speaker 2: of religious worship and demonizing in both ways. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like this kind of he's either devil or a god, right,
Speaker 2: And I think that you can't have you can't, we don't.
Speaker 2: Religion is not a rational thing, right, so they kind
Speaker 2: of all become a rational agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It infected my family too. You know, my dad
Speaker 1: passed away in December, and he was like, he was
Speaker 1: very uh, he was very angry with me for not
Speaker 1: agreeing with him.
Speaker 2: But here's before we move on from this. I know
Speaker 2: it can get really boring. This is what I'm going
Speaker 2: to say. This is my own last thing on politics.
Speaker 2: I think you have to stop looking at politics as
Speaker 2: a right left thing. Politically, if people start thinking about
Speaker 2: there's different there's right brained people and there's left brain people,
Speaker 2: and that truly is the right because there's if you're
Speaker 2: right brains, you're more usually kind of creative person, you're intuitive,
Speaker 2: a certain kind of a person that is that a
Speaker 2: left brain person is more organized and they're kind of
Speaker 2: there's a more, they're kind of more the the people
Speaker 2: who are managers at places that kind of here's a
Speaker 2: way to do it, and there's a fairness to a
Speaker 2: certain thing. Both those are virtues. You want both of them,
Speaker 2: but it's hard to convince a person who's got that
Speaker 2: value over here. It doesn't mean they're wrong. It means
Speaker 2: that they hold a hierarchy, one thing more important than
Speaker 2: the other than you do. And that's all that it is.
Speaker 2: And I think if people saw, oh that I get it,
Speaker 2: it would make us more because we're hating each other
Speaker 2: in a way that's weird to Me's some things. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some things that you have a red
Speaker 2: line on that's like that's of course, of course, But
Speaker 2: like for the most part, I think it's we're all
Speaker 2: we're all just trying to get by. Man. It sounds
Speaker 2: like I'm kind of a hippie and the old school
Speaker 2: hippie way in that way, I'm just like, it's all
Speaker 2: just who cares, Like, let's all just be good to
Speaker 2: one another. It sounds like a cliche.
Speaker 1: But before we leave the subject entirely though, I just
Speaker 1: have to ask you this because when you and I
Speaker 1: worked together at Strawberries all those years ago, and and
Speaker 1: I just remember you and me and and Jeremy and
Speaker 1: of course out to Jeremy. Oh yeah, I love Jeremy.
Speaker 1: And every once in a while he'll say, like in Messenger,
Speaker 1: he'll send me something kiss related that he just happened.
Speaker 1: And he's not a kiss fan, but he'll just he'll
Speaker 1: see something. He'll say, Ill, Matt would like this, And
Speaker 1: of course Lee, and uh, you know, like it's it.
Speaker 1: Do you ever just kind of feel wistful for like it?
Speaker 1: It doesn't it seem like it was a simpler time. Yes,
Speaker 1: during the I never, like I never imagined I would
Speaker 1: pine for the days of the George W. Bush administration,
Speaker 1: but I actually do.
Speaker 2: I don't pine for the time. It's not that it's
Speaker 2: not the right way. It wasn't social media, right, That's
Speaker 2: the big There was no iPhone and there was no
Speaker 2: social media. Yeah, and the two big this is why again,
Speaker 2: if you want to rock me and many of my
Speaker 2: friends have talked about why there are no rock stars anymore,
Speaker 2: it's the phone. Yeah, Because if you had all the
Speaker 2: stories you hear about Aerosmith and led Zeppelin with there
Speaker 2: was phones everywhere.
Speaker 1: That's a you know, I've never even thought about.
Speaker 2: That would be that's why there's no rock stars. You
Speaker 2: have to be careful.
Speaker 1: I've never even thought of it that way. That's a
Speaker 1: great insight though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, oh, that's part. Now you have
Speaker 2: to get some people who say f it, right, But
Speaker 2: then they have to deal with the kind of collateral
Speaker 2: of that. Yes, because there was a thing and if
Speaker 2: he was nineteen seventy four, Jimmy Page was doing all
Speaker 2: kinds of things right, you know, and there was a
Speaker 2: kind of mythology and we didn't see it, but it
Speaker 2: was kind of accepted to because that's what rock stars do.
Speaker 2: We live in a different time now because of social media.
Speaker 2: And again I don't think it's good faith people for
Speaker 2: the most part who hear any ship. It's the kind
Speaker 2: of angry ones who but it's not accepted now, even
Speaker 2: though it's kind of this kind of a weird thing
Speaker 2: in the back of our head, that kind of as
Speaker 2: you're saying, you long for the days of George W. Bush,
Speaker 2: I don't, but I don't either, I know what you
Speaker 2: mean by that. It was simpler but it was no,
Speaker 2: I know you, I'm just hyperbolic. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a simpler time because we weren't. It was a smaller world.
Speaker 2: We're too we know too many things. Like I was thinking,
Speaker 2: kind of like social media, you know, that superpower of
Speaker 2: being inside someone's head. We could read people's thoughts. We
Speaker 2: kind of are now eating. I can go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store and if i'm Facebook friends or someone with
Speaker 2: like five people, I can go, oh, there's Billy. I
Speaker 2: know he thinks that's true. It's like a weird thing.
Speaker 2: It's not healthy though. I'm not supposed to know this
Speaker 2: much about each other. And that's why I think the
Speaker 2: beauty of yesteryear for rock stars was the kind of
Speaker 2: the mystique. That's why I've always thought Tool. I've always
Speaker 2: respected Tool because you didn't know anything about them for
Speaker 2: a modern band, like before you could. That was true
Speaker 2: of everyone. Yeah, it was always like David Bowie was
Speaker 2: just this this creature, you know, But like now everyone
Speaker 2: knows and everyone wants to be seen, which I hate. Yes,
Speaker 2: here we are here, I am It's boring.
Speaker 1: It is for dinner, especially a Rocks, which are rock.
Speaker 2: Stars, but any I mean maybe I'm I'm putting too
Speaker 2: much Creeds because I miss that because the rock Stars
Speaker 2: was part of my youth. But it's also I think
Speaker 2: it means something to culture. I think there's something about
Speaker 2: some girl or guy who's got swagger. I miss Courtney Love.
Speaker 2: It might sound crazy, I miss Corney, I miss I
Speaker 2: miss early Madonna. Like thought, there's no girl like that now.
Speaker 2: And I think that like Madonna was way more cutting
Speaker 2: edge than people give her credit for. I agree, it's
Speaker 2: like she's not Britney Spears as people compared, like she's
Speaker 2: the new Britain. Some Pearson's the new Britney Spears mean
Speaker 2: new Madonna, right, Sabrina Carpenter, No, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: Madonna was always going onto the underground clubs of London
Speaker 2: and Chicago and New York and finding the unknown dance
Speaker 2: music right and making that sound of pop right, whereas
Speaker 2: modern popular. Who's the I want? Who's the guy from
Speaker 2: Sweden put does everything? Matt Moore, Matt uh Something, I
Speaker 2: forget his name, but he does every song these producers.
Speaker 2: I want the famous guy who can make me sound
Speaker 2: like a hit boring right, Like that's not gonna make
Speaker 2: You're gonna sound.
Speaker 1: Like everybody else exactly.
Speaker 2: So I miss originality. I miss Marilyn Manson. I'm never
Speaker 2: the biggest Manson fan, But I love the kind of
Speaker 2: that guy's doing that right, That rebel spirit I guess
Speaker 2: of music is gone.
Speaker 1: And he's still and it's not like like he's an
Speaker 1: example of someone who's still very active making music. But
Speaker 1: but the but the reaction to it is is not there,
Speaker 1: like he seems past today.
Speaker 2: Now I think it's going to come back, I really do.
Speaker 2: I think there's a kind of I just I think
Speaker 2: kids who are the children of Gen xers, I think
Speaker 2: gen X was so coolah and by the way we
Speaker 2: were that's right, No, I say this Gen X is
Speaker 2: the coolest generation. We're not the greatest generation, but we're
Speaker 2: the coolest generation. And because I mean, it's what. It
Speaker 2: was a magical time to be alive, and art was great,
Speaker 2: movies and film movies and music, and it was just
Speaker 2: a cool time to be alive for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2: It was a lucky time to be alive, to be fair,
Speaker 2: to go through your kind of formative years.
Speaker 1: So I agree, I agree, well, very good. While I'm
Speaker 1: dying to here another one if you're just joining us.
Speaker 1: Oh quick update for our live listeners. Dave Derby from
Speaker 1: The Damn Builders will be with us at eleven fifteen
Speaker 1: am in the third hour. So we have we have
Speaker 1: secured Dave Derby, which I'm relieved about because I was
Speaker 1: bummed I didn't get to stoked to him earlier. Remember
Speaker 1: the Damn Builders, they're they're Boston band, but they were
Speaker 1: on MTV. When I first found out I was gonna
Speaker 1: be interviewing Dave today, I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I remembered the video for Shine. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: I certainly know the name. I don't know I did
Speaker 2: they play with. I feel like they played with someone
Speaker 2: big that I know, like probably that I was like
Speaker 2: a really big fan of and they work were either
Speaker 2: they did a song with. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: maybe think of the wrong band. I definitely know the name,
Speaker 2: ye yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well very good. So what are you gonna
Speaker 1: play for us now, Mike?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a newer song called lust and Wine.
Speaker 1: All right, Mike, Mike Lachlan is here with us live
Speaker 1: in studio.
Speaker 3: Were the dayline makes Me nervous, makes me want you on?
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 3: Memor Rezi burning when they're put before the lie where
Speaker 3: some things are e turnal. It's some things odd, divine
Speaker 3: loved lingers lasting if you won't Space and time.
Speaker 6: In these estes taste like staying white.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 4: My copy is spoke by my way.
Speaker 9: Run strive.
Speaker 4: Nin't you wings that could give me fly both? The
Speaker 4: Devil's Song keeps me here tonight.
Speaker 9: Will redize while I'm reading.
Speaker 3: Scattered along the Flies, your poetry and fiction.
Speaker 4: I all it made me feel alive.
Speaker 3: Will Maybe I'm just stating now just by in time.
Speaker 4: Chill, I am released by that aint just kissed you night.
Speaker 3: Now these ashes taaste like lostan why.
Speaker 7: He now.
Speaker 4: My cumpy is fuver my way wrong?
Speaker 6: Strip Ain't your wings could help me fly?
Speaker 8: Boy?
Speaker 4: The Devil's Song keeps me eing tonight.
Speaker 6: Here now, she says, she's tea my lord stand away
Speaker 6: Now my cuffe is full by my way worn stripe.
Speaker 4: The angel wings that could heve me fly.
Speaker 1: Move?
Speaker 4: The Devil's Song it keeps me it tonight.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Mike Lachlan is here
Speaker 1: with us a live in studio that was great. That's
Speaker 1: called lust and wine. All right, very very good if
Speaker 1: you are just doing us. Mike Lachlan is here with us.
Speaker 1: He's been playing some tunes and we've been talking, and uh,
Speaker 1: I've known Mike for a very long time. Are you
Speaker 1: in the five timers club here on the show?
Speaker 2: Have you been on five time?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: Probably this show?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: I don't think three right, right.
Speaker 1: It's easy to lose track because I've interviewed you on
Speaker 1: Local Outbreak and you've been and you were the original host.
Speaker 2: And we've we've we've talked what four score probably times
Speaker 2: that we've done many.
Speaker 1: Many, absolutely absolutely remember. One of the times was at
Speaker 1: the salon at Styling Souls in Manchester. Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: That was? Yeah? That was yeah, that was right. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's a long time. That was sixteen years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: That was because I was going to move to New York.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, and then that'll whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was leaving and I was like, oh I was
Speaker 2: gonna do I did a show?
Speaker 1: You ended up in another band?
Speaker 2: I would I started another band at that time, but
Speaker 2: I was planning on it was going to end. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a temporary thing because I was like, I
Speaker 2: have so much really with that band, which was Glorious Noise,
Speaker 2: and my old band was Mantra. Yes, and then but
Speaker 2: Mantra was it kind of grew, it grew out of itself.
Speaker 2: In my from what I was going, I was like,
Speaker 2: the sound that became Glorious Noise was the sound. I
Speaker 2: wanted Mantra to be well, at least try for a
Speaker 2: little while, Try a new shoot on for a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: more rhythmic, yeah, which we could have because we had
Speaker 2: the people. It was just I don't know, I think
Speaker 2: it's just life. I think some things it was. Part
Speaker 2: of it was we just creatively were different, and some
Speaker 2: of it was also just life happened. You know, kids,
Speaker 2: people had kids and that stuff happens to bands, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely do you. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: you know you talked earlier about the what is it
Speaker 1: called again as a dystonia.
Speaker 2: It's called muscular muscle tension dysphonia dysphonia. Yeah, I always
Speaker 2: get the JV version of what RFK Junior has. Oh
Speaker 2: really like he has the much more. You could hear
Speaker 2: it in his voice, but it's neu. I think it's
Speaker 2: they say when I went, they said it might be neurological,
Speaker 2: but it's I think it's more psychological. If I'm being
Speaker 2: I've looked up online and you don't trust everything you
Speaker 2: read online. But they told me that at when I
Speaker 2: went for vocal therapy too. It could be some of that.
Speaker 2: It's and I also sing incorrectly. You do in one way,
Speaker 2: they said, I don't breathe.
Speaker 1: Enough more with your throat than probably I've never.
Speaker 2: Learned how to sing. So it's like.
Speaker 1: It's like it works for you.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, but I think it's one of those
Speaker 2: Well that's kind of unfortunately what the therapist Scalp told me.
Speaker 2: She said, you've been lucky that you've got by because
Speaker 2: you're good enough at this to do You've probably hurt
Speaker 2: your your vocal, your your The way you sing is
Speaker 2: not technically correct. So I don't know, I mean, and
Speaker 2: it's I've tried things I can't. It's it's hard to break.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel sometimes I feel great, yeah,
Speaker 2: and sometimes I don't. It's it's it's like a hit
Speaker 2: or miss things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've been dealing with this for quite a
Speaker 1: few years now, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I play gigs, I'm playing for three hours,
Speaker 2: so it gets tired. Oh my god. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: mean with breaks obviously, so it's probably about closer to
Speaker 2: like two ten. Yeah, but uh it's still you know,
Speaker 2: it's it. It is what it is, So I mean whatever,
Speaker 2: we all have our cross to bear. Oh, of course,
Speaker 2: of course as a singer, it sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Do you miss being in a band ever? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I missed feeling the kick drum. Yeah, it's just like
Speaker 2: one of those or like feeling like that kind of
Speaker 2: resonance from the bass. I was actually gonna ask you
Speaker 2: a question about music. Yes, I was thinking about old
Speaker 2: bands from that era. Yeah, yeah, a band you were in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there any Is there any kind of recordings of
Speaker 2: Viper Casino?
Speaker 1: No, because we never got it. We never played a
Speaker 1: single show as.
Speaker 2: You ever rehearsed, you guys record anything together?
Speaker 1: No, So so Hillman and I, you know, we got
Speaker 1: together a bunch and just played, and then we were
Speaker 1: supposed to do a show. I had a show booked in.
Speaker 1: Uh jeez, where was it.
Speaker 2: I was excited for you guys. I was really close
Speaker 2: with Andrew, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was excited about it because
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was cool as hell, and
Speaker 1: it was very bizarre, which was cool. Yeah, that's part
Speaker 1: of what I was excited about. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is so far out of anything I've done. And then
Speaker 1: he just totally blew me off because leading up to
Speaker 1: the show, he just stopped communicating with me. That's but
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember he did eventually apologize
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: He's a nice dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because because you were with him when he did,
Speaker 1: because he came in I was an f ye and
Speaker 1: conquered and you guys came into them all that day
Speaker 1: and he actually came and apologized to me. This was
Speaker 1: like years later. Yeah, but he finally said I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know he's said something about he
Speaker 1: was just going through a lot at the time.
Speaker 2: And was it similar to what he was doing as Viper.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The idea was it was going to be what he
Speaker 1: was doing as Viper, but I was going to play bass.
Speaker 1: I was gonna be his live bass player, and we
Speaker 1: were going to do this thing where he'd be in
Speaker 1: the he'd be in the Viper, his Viper costume or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call. It was all crazy, and
Speaker 1: I was gonna wear a suit so it would be
Speaker 1: that contrast and his manager. Yeah, yeah, or kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's Viper and I'm the I'm the pit
Speaker 1: boss of the casino or something, you know. Because it
Speaker 1: was Viper Casino. That was that was what it was
Speaker 1: going to be, and I was so excited about it.
Speaker 1: And then he just and we had a show booked.
Speaker 1: It was going to be our first show together as
Speaker 1: Viper Casino, and he just uh, but I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: that remains one of my favorite interviews I've ever done.
Speaker 1: When I before before Vipers, when it was when he
Speaker 1: was his Viper and he just started his Viper and
Speaker 1: I interviewed him, and it remains to this day one
Speaker 1: of my favorite interviews because he's totally in character at
Speaker 1: the entire time and it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: It was when I was to week. I was there.
Speaker 2: You probably were there for it was that in his barn. No, Okay,
Speaker 2: there was something I remember. I think I was there
Speaker 2: for this though.
Speaker 1: I mean I vividly remember the barn. I remember he
Speaker 1: was there too for that. Yeah, I remember you being
Speaker 1: there for stuff. Yeah, because I think we did a
Speaker 1: follow up, but he was No. This was when I
Speaker 1: was hosting the Metal Classroom on rage Rock Radio dot com. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was like my first time ever hosting my
Speaker 1: own show and uh or eventually the Metal Classroom became
Speaker 1: the hidden track. And I can't remember if it was
Speaker 1: still the Metal Classroom or for it to become the
Speaker 1: hidden track at that point, but but yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was he was it was. Do you remember Hammer. You
Speaker 1: must have met Hammer at some point Hammer Hammer owned
Speaker 1: rage rock Radio dot Com. I've completely lost touch with him.
Speaker 1: He's out of the music scene entirely as far as
Speaker 1: I know. But but so he owned rage Rock, so
Speaker 1: he gave me the gig hosting that show. And Viper
Speaker 1: was one of my first interviews on that show on
Speaker 1: rage rock Radio dot com. And yeah, he was totally
Speaker 1: in character and it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: I saw him do I'm not sure if it was
Speaker 2: his first show. It might have been. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: either his first or second show.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I went with him. It was somewhere like in It
Speaker 2: was like Mass, something like your Mass or something.
Speaker 1: Oh, and it was at the jump Off.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the club.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was at the No Wild Yeah,
Speaker 1: the jump Off in Lawrence or something.
Speaker 2: It was either it was maybe it was I don't remember.
Speaker 2: It's all flurry to me, but it was it was
Speaker 2: whild watching like all these bands would play, and then
Speaker 2: he got up there in full mass smoke machine just
Speaker 2: yea and just these random repeated loop techno like skinny Puppy.
Speaker 2: It was like this wild thing. It was just and
Speaker 2: that for me, first of all, just kind of proud
Speaker 2: of my friend doing it. Yeah, he's he's committed and
Speaker 2: it was kind of great to see him come alive
Speaker 2: and do it. Yeah, because if anyone knows we're talking
Speaker 2: about Andrew Hillman, I've known him forever. He was in
Speaker 2: two of my bands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very talent.
Speaker 2: He is also I wish he's a natural born rock star. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like he just he's so good at it. And
Speaker 2: he's a great bass player. I played bass, oh yeah, so,
Speaker 2: but he has a totally interesting vibe of Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was committed to something that was totally unique, and he's hilarious.
Speaker 2: He's very fun very funny.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I remember that night too because I
Speaker 1: obviously I was at that that show and uh, he
Speaker 1: said something about wanting to have a band, like like
Speaker 1: maybe having a bass player, and I was like really
Speaker 1: because I'll do it.
Speaker 2: You're that easy man. Oh yeah, Well I was just
Speaker 2: you were you were, you were intrigued.
Speaker 1: I was so into it because it was so strange
Speaker 1: and so cool. I was like, dude, if you want
Speaker 1: me to play with you, I'll play. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, but it never never got off the
Speaker 1: ground anyway. But uh yeah, So you were Now when
Speaker 1: I first met you, you were in Something.
Speaker 2: The worst band name of all time. But I but whatever,
Speaker 2: it is what it.
Speaker 1: Is, but something. I feel like something kind of became
Speaker 1: mantra am.
Speaker 2: I if I'm totally being honest, it's all been kind
Speaker 2: of one thing because it's just growing.
Speaker 1: Because it's all each each successive band has had some
Speaker 1: of the same members.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, and there I mean, And I've written ninety
Speaker 2: five percent of the songs, and I kind of knew.
Speaker 2: I just my thing is that I'm not I always
Speaker 2: I'm not capable of pulling it off like I'm not
Speaker 2: Billy Corgan can do in the studio. Just do everything myself.
Speaker 2: And I like being in a band. The beauty of
Speaker 2: like like John Bellefonte, when I was in Something, it
Speaker 2: was me and Hillman were just playing in a barn
Speaker 2: and then I had these songs I was working on,
Speaker 2: but then John came in and started playing lead over them.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, what is that? That's exactly what
Speaker 2: we need because he wasn't playing the blues, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't John Ken play the blues and
Speaker 2: he does work it into his but like he was
Speaker 2: doing something that was like a universe of sound, and
Speaker 2: I was like, that's what we need, that's what I want,
Speaker 2: that's what we're looking for, and that kind of and
Speaker 2: if you remember, we were so naive other than John,
Speaker 2: I think the three of us that Me, Sean, and
Speaker 2: Andrew were kind of like kind of we're working through
Speaker 2: our abilities. We weren't like great players. I certainly was,
Speaker 2: and I can definitely at least own that for myself.
Speaker 2: Sean we gave him the bass because he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we need a bass player, so he was cool enough
Speaker 2: to do it. But like, we were just naive and
Speaker 2: we happened to have I think I wrote decent songs
Speaker 2: and then John could really slay on guitar, and so
Speaker 2: it was it kind of we were we were a
Speaker 2: good band. I don't think we had to grown. Mantra
Speaker 2: was more songwriter based. The songs were more focused. I
Speaker 2: think they sound they were more like concise. And then
Speaker 2: I had both Gary Mayhew on drums, who's phenomenal, and
Speaker 2: then Sean, who's a pure great rock and roll drummer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love Sean thinks like a producer and not like
Speaker 2: a drummer. You've been like, he's not a he thinks
Speaker 2: the whole song, yes, which is so nice. That's so
Speaker 2: awesome as a guy who like he's he Sean the best.
Speaker 2: I wish he was going to be here tonight. I
Speaker 2: was hoping. But I'll be playing a show with Sean.
Speaker 2: We're doing That's one thing I wanted to say. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do it kind of every almost a year. They
Speaker 2: do it at Giuseppe's and Meredith. They have a music
Speaker 2: memorial to raise money for a kid going to school
Speaker 2: college for music. So Sean's gonna be playing drums, and
Speaker 2: I got a guy named lu Parazzo playing piano, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're kind of like headlining. It sounds stupid,
Speaker 2: but we're the last band on although Tim Terrio, you
Speaker 2: know Tim Terrio is No, I don't know Tim. You
Speaker 2: he's amazing. Yeah, he's been playing forever he was. He
Speaker 2: went on tour with Sully from Godsmack. He was his
Speaker 2: guitar player. Okay, he's he was a big Portsmouth I
Speaker 2: forget the name of the band he was in. I
Speaker 2: feel horrible saying that, but he plays everywhere kind of
Speaker 2: in the Portsmouth area. He's great. He's a phenomenal I
Speaker 2: saw him play years ago at somewhere else and he
Speaker 2: played in the meantime by Uh, what's who did that?
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's space space Yeah, I couldnt think of it.
Speaker 2: And it was so good. Really yeah, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's playing that song. Yeah, because when someone you do
Speaker 2: the circuit playing cover songs, you hear the same one
Speaker 2: of course, so it's like, oh he did that and
Speaker 2: they did sabotage but the Beastie Boys. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and he he's just great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I love seeing people who can do great things
Speaker 2: that I can't do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to get him on the show. Tim
Speaker 1: Terrio is his name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know what he's could he
Speaker 2: just kind of do in the circuit now, but yeah,
Speaker 2: he plays professionally whatever you want to call it. He's
Speaker 2: a hired gun. Yeah, yeah, he's because he's a phenomenal player.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh very cool, very cool. We have time.
Speaker 1: Do you want to play one more?
Speaker 2: Sure? Do you want me to do a newer one
Speaker 2: or do you want me to do an older one?
Speaker 2: What do you want me?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really enjoying hearing the new stuff. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you're just joining us, Mike Lachlan is here with us
Speaker 1: live in studio and uh yeah the other two you
Speaker 1: played were pretty new, right both?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the last last half a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, You've always been pretty prolific, right. Have
Speaker 1: you ever had a drought as a songwriter?
Speaker 2: Have you ever? I would say yes, in towards the
Speaker 2: tail end of Mantra. Really it was more because I
Speaker 2: was when you're in a band, you get together and
Speaker 2: like you have like an what you're doing. I didn't
Speaker 2: have anywhere to bring it. So I have a lot
Speaker 2: of songs I write playing right now. They're more acoustic
Speaker 2: bass because I'm playing acoustic guitar, but myself out. But
Speaker 2: I have been writing. I do write more kind of
Speaker 2: once it will be bent for a band, but I
Speaker 2: kind of just go, what's the point of doing that
Speaker 2: right now? Because I can't do anything with it, so
Speaker 2: I focus more on the acoustic ones in mantra. I
Speaker 2: was starting to red Letter Day was written in mantra.
Speaker 2: I wrote it on keyboard. I wanted this kind of
Speaker 2: wave sound, and I was like that, I don't think
Speaker 2: that band would have played it. Oh okay, So I
Speaker 2: was like, I want to start doing I wanted to
Speaker 2: start doing other things, and I think everyone to be
Speaker 2: I think everyone was kind of like we were doing
Speaker 2: well and like that kind of kept this going. But
Speaker 2: I think we all were interested in other things at
Speaker 2: that point in time. To everyone's sure, so sure, they're
Speaker 2: probably all sick me.
Speaker 1: All right, what are you gonna play for us?
Speaker 2: I'm only another newer one called A Space Inside your Mind?
Speaker 1: All right, Mike Lachlan live in studio with us.
Speaker 4: Sensu mentalist stool. Don't call me it all me. It
Speaker 4: is Stasi's so it's Ben. It's gonna be your came
Speaker 4: live me.
Speaker 3: It built a petty stool and put you stand in
Speaker 3: on you little jewel fan.
Speaker 4: Guess that was my phone. I'm not seen, I sing.
Speaker 6: Said it in post play. Ryl said I wasn't strong
Speaker 6: enough to be your man. I'm not asking for a
Speaker 6: four giveness. I'm not asking for your time, just asking
Speaker 6: for space inside your mind.
Speaker 3: Now give it you at church so I can feel
Speaker 3: either on my sense well of him?
Speaker 4: Was was in one of them?
Speaker 6: For you?
Speaker 4: It's sure, is man, go as will.
Speaker 6: There's something I keep ered in my soul. Will it's
Speaker 6: over now ye.
Speaker 9: Have blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: I had to see a go. I'm not singing.
Speaker 3: I was evil to things heeded and go his blame.
Speaker 3: Like Sheryl said, I wasn't strong enough to be old man.
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm not asking for your time,
Speaker 3: just asking for speak inside your mind.
Speaker 4: Will I hate it and let it feed it? Sometimes
Speaker 4: promises and love.
Speaker 3: Just can't be cared. You been worn it and then
Speaker 3: be horned robber feelings. I had them, they never.
Speaker 5: Left, but they came to rest.
Speaker 3: Call me a sensi mentalistor, don't call me at all.
Speaker 3: It is just that. It's all it's been. It's gonna
Speaker 3: go to be your car b My may of builds up.
Speaker 3: Petty's still let but you stand.
Speaker 4: In no, but you live up to your a fantasy.
Speaker 4: I guess that was my fault. I'm not saying I
Speaker 4: was able things.
Speaker 6: They hid it in lost fan like Sheryl said, I
Speaker 6: wasn't strong enough to be your man. I'm not asking
Speaker 6: for forgiveness.
Speaker 4: I'm not asking for your time, just asking for speak
Speaker 4: inside your mind. Yeah, speak inside your mind.
Speaker 6: Oh, speak inside your mind, speak inside your mind.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic. Mike Lachlan here with us live in studio. Now,
Speaker 1: do you have any shows this weekend? Mike? Where's where's
Speaker 1: your next show? We should plug your next?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Next, next Friday, I'm in a place called the New
Speaker 2: found in Okay, in Alexandria.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, very good. Next Friday night, all right, whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what time do you go on?
Speaker 2: So bad at this? I think six?
Speaker 1: I think six to eight, okay, six to eight?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, so where should people go? I ask everybody this.
Speaker 1: I know you hate the s ques.
Speaker 2: I'm you can go and find me at led Zeppelin
Speaker 2: dot com. D No, I don't. I don't have any sites.
Speaker 2: It's I should be. I'm the worst at this the
Speaker 2: entire world. I I know. I get people all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah asking me the question, Oh my god, it's like
Speaker 2: and it's very kind, it's very sweet and it's like,
Speaker 2: I know I should, I just don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: of me playing cover songs is a big deal, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I mean, I play
Speaker 2: my original I work. Yeah, seven or eight of them
Speaker 2: in every gig I play.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I just I'm happy for the people who
Speaker 2: see me. I don't think going to see a cover
Speaker 2: artist is not a thing people do. They go out
Speaker 2: for the night, and that's the person there. Yes, and
Speaker 2: there's the people that they like that go. I'll go
Speaker 2: see them again every once in a while because I
Speaker 2: like that person playing. Maybe there's those two people go
Speaker 2: to everyone of their shows. That seems insane to me.
Speaker 2: God bless you if you're supporting those people. I just
Speaker 2: get sick of hearing myself. I can't imagine how people
Speaker 2: getting sick of hearing me so playing the same songs
Speaker 2: because I just don't. I'm really lazy about learning new songs.
Speaker 2: I don't care about cover songs. Yeah, so I go
Speaker 2: I know that one off. Randomly, I'll play a song.
Speaker 2: If I'm working on a song, go oh that sounds
Speaker 2: like that song, and all just suddenly I'll play that song.
Speaker 2: I have to like it. Though, so I can't just go, oh,
Speaker 2: I get here's a question for you, doctor Matt. You're
Speaker 2: a man about town when you go, who do you
Speaker 2: think is? What do you think is the most requested
Speaker 2: song by people to go, Oh my god? Can you
Speaker 2: play this song?
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
Speaker 2: It used to be Freebird it kind of as a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Maybe, uh, What's Up by Fournin Blods.
Speaker 2: I think that's up there. I think the ones I
Speaker 2: think are country road.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, Okay, look it's Friday night. I'm sure
Speaker 2: if you come tomorrow the guy here is going to
Speaker 2: do it. I'm sure if you come here next Friday,
Speaker 2: the guy will do it. I'm sure to come the
Speaker 2: next night after that, the person will do it. It's
Speaker 2: every time, So I don't play that song. Yeah, here's
Speaker 2: Low by Cracker because you know it, but it's not
Speaker 2: done to death. There's certain songs that everyone wants to
Speaker 2: hear every time they're out, and maybe it's understandable. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to be forgiving on that stuff, but yeah,
Speaker 2: really every.
Speaker 1: Time, I'm the same way. I don't get it. So
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fire sublime where it's at what I got, what
Speaker 2: I got? Yeah, I like becks where it's at.
Speaker 1: That'd be cool, that would be that would be ah well,
Speaker 1: very good. Well, Mike, this is always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: My friend fantastics as well, Doctor Matt Connerton.
Speaker 1: We need to not let another. However many years it's
Speaker 1: been go by before you come back.
Speaker 2: Hopefully I can get somebody else again, Johnald, that could
Speaker 2: have He's cool to talk to. Yeah, Sean, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: sometimes feel like I'd love to have someone else here
Speaker 2: to kind of bounce off of.
Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: It's just fun because I like I can talk myself,
Speaker 2: and it's fun to talk to you because you're a
Speaker 2: good interviewer. Matt. That's why you deserve to take the job.
Speaker 2: For me, I was horrible at it. I kind of
Speaker 2: always envisioned it is kind of kind of the only
Speaker 2: kind of plus of it for me is I kind
Speaker 2: of envisioned it the way most podcasts are now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be a hang at like a
Speaker 2: bar with musicians, right, and so I remember talking the
Speaker 2: way you'd talk at a bar, right, And it was
Speaker 2: not I wasn't you're much better at this than I was.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like asking questions a certain way,
Speaker 2: but it felt too informal. Yeah, I know what, and
Speaker 2: I'm I just didn't have the the acumen that you have.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, No, I appreciate that, Mike. I appreciate
Speaker 1: that very much.
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