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Speaker 3: Oh you heard it here first. That is the world radio premiere of Table for two by seven Streets and that comes out June five, but that is the first time you've heard that on American radio. Welcome everybody, This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and if you aren't listening live on Saturday, we have entered our number two New Marrow dose of the program. We have our course are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. It's cold and rainy and windy and blah.

Speaker 3: It's cozy in here, though the summer's coming. I thought summer was here. It's not quite apparently, but summer's coming. But we are live, of course from the studios of WMNH and you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera, and of course if you want even more content, you can look at our new site, Matt Connorton Unleashed dot com. So we've got some stuff there too, as well as the show archive and all of that.

Speaker 3: So thank you all for joining us. And of course thank you again to Robin Ross, who was here with us in the first hour of the program from the great state of Pennsylvania. He joined us via Microsoft Teams and we're talking all about Robin Ross and the Mellowdnes and the new album MySpace, MySpace Mindspace, MySpace Boy. That takes me back. My MySpace account still exists. By the way, did you know if you had an account on MySpace back in the day, it's probably still there because even if you try to delete it, and you know, not everyone's necessarily proud of their old MySpace account, but they make it very differicult.

Speaker 3: It's weird. It's like, you know, if Armageddon ever happens, you know, at the end of it there will be cockroaches and MySpace will still exist and that'll be it. But anyway, so thank you again Robin Ross for joining us. And of course in the later on in the show, we have grim Rock who's going to be with us as well. So two Pennsylvania artists today. What are the odds. I don't know, one in I mean those fifty states, so maybe the odds are one in fifty I don't know. But grim Rock will be here with us later today.

Speaker 3: Really looking forward to that. Another great artist from Pennsylvania who's been on the show a bunch, but today we get to actually meet grim in person. He will be here with us later in the show because tonight, so he's on tour. Tonight he is playing at the Spot in Nashua for a show called Demons at the Disco Live Ault Rock, glamb and punk music, mocktails and cava, late night bite stands for fun and door prizes. So Melted the Melted Chapsticks playing tonight, and of course Grim Rock is opening show starts at eight pm.

Speaker 3: That is tonight for those of you listening live on May thirtieth, tonight at eight pm. This is an all ages show, so no alcohol, but you can bring the family, so let your kids go to the show. It's great to see an all ages show like this, because I was talking about it during the first hour, So if you've been listening to the whole show, I'm not going to bore you with my whole diatribe isn't quite the right word, but my soliloquy, if you will. But it is great to see all ages shows like this because usually you know, if you go to local shows at bars and clubs and whatnot.

Speaker 3: They're either eighteen plus or twenty one plus, so it's great to see an all ages show, and the Spot does a lot of these, so a great place. We've had Mike McDowell, also known as the Healer, he's been on the show with us. He was on the show actually back before the Spot had opened up. He was preparing to open the place, and so they've been going for a while now and apparently having a lot of success. So Jenny and I will be there tonight for the show grim Rock opening for the Melted Chapsticks tonight at the Spot again.

Speaker 3: Starts at eight pm, ten dollars cover all ages. Can't wait, so come down and say hello. Let's see I think we should do some music industry news. There is a story. So we talked about this on the show a couple of weeks ago, this lawsuit. And you know, the thing is, when you get to be as successful as Taylor Swift, you know, you've got all the money in the world, and that's great, but you know, I mean, she's arguably one of the biggest stars in the world right not just in the United States but globally, a global icon if you will truly, I mean she's ascended to that point.

Speaker 3: But when you have all the money in the world, some people want to take some of it from you. And I'm not just talking about taxes. I'm talking about people who sue you. Now we talked about this again. I forgot it was either two weeks ago or three weeks ago on the show this lawsuit. So when you have money, people sue you to try to get your money. And there is this podcaster named Maren Flagg who has a podcast called Confessions of a Showgirl, who has sued Taylor Swift over a trademark infringement because Taylor Swift has an album called Life of a Showgirl.

Speaker 3: So Maren flag her podcast is called Confessions of a Showgirl, but she, apparently in her legal team, feels that Taylor Swift has infringed on her trademark with her album Life of a Showgirl. So I guess and by that logic, and so we have an update. That's why we're going there's an update on this that actually really surprises me. But I was surprised by all of this and pretty critical of it because to me, it sounds like a frivolous lawsuit. You know. I mean, yes, both Life of a Showgirl and Confessions of a Showgirl have the word showgirl in them.

Speaker 3: But by the lie, if you're going to call that trademark infringement, by that logic, I guess Maren Flagg, with her podcast Confessions of a Showgirl, I guess you can't ever have the word show girl and anything ever, because if you do, you're infringing on her trade. I guess she now owns all the rights to the word showgirl. You know, am I gonna end up owing this woman money for even saying the word show girl multiple times on the show today as we talk about this, I mean, you know, by that logic, I guess I should, right, I must owe her something.

Speaker 3: I mean, it's absurd to me. You know, Life of a Showgirl Confessions of a Showgirl not the same thing. They both use the word showgirl, they also both use the words of and uh you know, I mean, come on, It's very silly to me, and I feel that this is a very frivolous lawsuit. And I agreed with what Taylor Swift's legal team has said about this, that it is frivolous and this woman, Maren Flagg, this podcaster, or she's just cloud chasing. A lot of podcasters do that, by the way. But there's a new wrinkled all of this.

Speaker 3: Because I thought this would get thrown out. I really did. This is so obviously frivolous, but no. This is an update from a couple days ago. This is from Digitalmusicnews dot Com, one of my favorite websites for music industry news. Judge considers injunction against Taylor Swift's Life of a Showgirl branding as trademark battle intensifies intensifies. So this podcaster Maren Flagg, who apparently believes that she just owns the rights to the word showgirl. She's actually getting some traction with this.

Speaker 3: I guess I really thought this would have gone away by now. I would have thought this would have gotten thrown out for being frivolous, But no, so it says here again. This is from the article from Digital Musicnews dot com. A judge weighs an injunction against Taylor Swift's Life of a Showgirl branding and light of her trademark's prior suspension due to actual showgirl Maren Wade's own trademark. Oh, by the way, so about the name because I said Maren Flag. Maren Flagg is her legal name, but she's a former Vegas showgirl named Maren Wade, so I guess Maren Wade is her stage name.

Speaker 3: Maren Flagg is her legal name. So just in case anyone's confused about the Maren's because I was thrown by that for a second. Again, I think this is I think this is absurd. I can't believe this is happening. Don't get me wrong. I mean again, Taylor Swift has all the money in the world. It's not like I feel sorry for her and this kind of thing happens. But this is really absurd to me. But I'm not a legal expert of any kind. I'm a layman, you know, I'm not. I mean, I do know. I do have some knowledge about intellectual property and trademark and copyright and all that kind of thing, just because of some of the work that I've done in the music industry.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a legal expert. I'm probably speaking out of turn here, but this just seems absurd to me. All Right, So let's look at this article. Here's the update on this. If you thought former Vegas showgirl Maren Wade legal name Maren Flag was trying to ride Taylor Swift's coattails over the latter's Life of a Showgirl branding. Think again when I still think that. When Taylor Swift's team tried to file their trademark for the megastar's latest album, it was suspended after they discovered a pre existing trademark for Flags, similarly named Confessions of a Showgirl.

Speaker 3: Even the trademark office thought there could be confusion between the two entities. Okay, let's stop on that for a moment, because I know a little bit about how this part works when you file for a trademark on something. Because apparently when Taylor Swift when her team, when her representation filed for the trademark, I still find this even this is hard to believe, but apparently when they filed for the trademark Life of a Showgirl, it was initially rejected for being too similar to another existing trademark.

Speaker 3: Now that part surprises me, but it's not unusual. When you file for a trademark. Sometimes you get rejected on the first pass because you have to supply additional you have to make some clarifications about what exactly the branding the trademark that you're filing for, what it's going to be used for, how it's going to be used, and if there is a concern that it's too close to an existing trademark, you have to kind of you have to supply documentation or explanations explaining why it's not and why there is not going to be any confusion, because again we're talking about two different things.

Speaker 3: Not only you know, I'm sorry the word showgirl is in both names, but that's not enough from my perspective. Not only that, but Life of a Showgirl is the name of an album by Taylor Swift, Confessions of a Showgirl is the name of a podcast by a former Las Vegas showgirl. To me, those two things are different enough that no one is going to be confused. No one is going to be confused. But very often when you file for a trademark, it does it may get I know because I've done it. It may get rejected on the first attempt, and you might have to supply, you might have to resubmit and supply additional information and clarifications.

Speaker 3: So I'm surprised the trademark off is even rejected it the first time as being too similar. But they did apparently they did. We know that, But so Swift her team then had to resubmit it. I assume they made whatever clarifications they needed to and were able to trademark Life of a Showgirl. So again, it's just not unusual for that to go that way. It happens. Okay, Now, according to the article the initial rejection, it says that's an important detail because it proves that Swift's team was aware of Flag's brand ahead of time, but opted to go ahead with their own showgirl project.

Speaker 3: Okay, so we do know, right, So, as the article points out, so Swift's legal team knew, I mean, they probably didn't know or they may not have known when they filed the initial trademark, but when they had to submit a follow up to get the trademark, they knew about Confessions of a Showgirl Megan Wade's podcast. But again, so what clearly two different things? So what who cares? Okay? It says here the lawsuit filed by Flag and her team argue that Swift's massive commercial footprint has caused reverse confusion quote unquote that's their term.

Speaker 3: I didn't know this was a thing. You know, you hear terms like reverse discrimination and things like that. I didn't know about reverse confusion. That must be a legal term, reverse confusion that effectively erodes and absorbs her decade old federally registered Confessions of a Showgirl trademark. Swift's team clapped back, stating that her album is an expressive work protected by the First Amendment, making an injunction extreme and unnecessary. They also took it a step further, asserting that Flag rode Swift's enormous marketing machine for eight and a half months and reaping all the benefits of potential confusion between the two brands before filing her lawsuit.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is evidence of that of Megan Flag trying to ride the coattails. See, you can't. You can't try to lag. I mean, look, it's smart. You can. You can overshoot and end up looking desperate, which Megan Flag, Megan Wade whatever you want to call her, not Megan Maren sorry the podcaster. You can overshoot and end up looking desperate if you're not careful. But anytime, and this is one of the first things I learned in the music industry. Anytime that you can somehow associate yourself with an entity of some sort that is bigger than you.

Speaker 3: It can only help you, right, It adds to your credibility. These days, we refer to it as social proof.

Speaker 8: Right.

Speaker 3: Anytime that you can associate with an entity that is bigger than you, that can be helpful as long as it's a positive association. So I can see why the podcaster would attempt to do that, But you can't try to do that. And then, I mean, again, I'm not illegal, like, but I'm just thinking about this Logically, you can't try to do that intentionally, go out of your way to associate with something bigger, a larger entity, and then turn around and say that larger entity has harmed me because that larger entity what they harmed you by creating what you ended up using as an opportunity to try to boost your own profile, and then when that didn't work out for you, you turn around and you file a lawsuit.

Speaker 3: This is so frivolous to me. I can't believe this is still going on. Okay, it says here Taylor Swift's trademark application. This is an important detail Taylor Swift's trademark application for Life of a Showgirl, filed by her intellectual property management company, Task Rights Management, hit a major roadblock at the United States Patent and Trademark Office back in March. Rather than being simply approved, the application was hit with a non final likelihood of confusion refuse usual and was officially suspended.

Speaker 3: That means that, while no action has been taken thus far, the judge has concluded hearings on the matter by stating that she quote planned to issue a written ruling shortly unquote In theory that could mean a legal injunction against Taylor Swift's branding, given that Flag's own legal trademark precedes it. It's the latest interesting twist in what seemed at face value like a potentially frivolous lawsuit. And that's that's the update. So this is a this is a new twist. Uh again, Uh, this is a potentially frivolous lawsuit.

Speaker 3: This is a frivolous lawsuit. I mean, I'm sorry, they're not They're not the same thing. And you know what this kind of reminds me of though when I think about, actually, I'm gonna look this up. There was a band. Okay, so for years and years and years there was a band, well, Guns n' Roses, the Axel Rose would would talk about this album called Chinese Democracy, and it was a weird thing. Like for those of you who are old enough to remember, Chinese Democracy was talked about and floating around in the ether for I mean, I don't know, it might have been more than a decade before it finally came out, and it was this really weird situation where I guess Axel Rose just really liked that title Chinese Democracy and thought that would be a great name, the perfect name for the next Guns n' Roses album.

Speaker 3: Because the title of the album was announced as being Chinese Democracy in theory before anything was even recorded for it. It was just like, which is weird? I always thought that was so bizarre that he decided the name and announced the name like before there was ever even a hint that the album was going to be coming out, and it became just this running joke. Oh yeah, there's there's this make believe album called Chinese Democracy by Guns n' Roses that we all know is never going to come out, by the way.

Speaker 3: Eventually, it did eventually, but that title existed for so long and for whatever reason, Axel Rose was so committed to the idea, the concept that that was going to be the name of the album. So finally, somebody, and forgive me, I cannot remember who it was, so I'm looking it up. I'm trying to google this as quickly as I can while I'm live on the air. Another band tried to call their album Chinese Democracy. What band tried to steal the name, which I thought at the time was hilarious.

Speaker 7: Oh?

Speaker 3: Was the Offspring? I found it? The Offspring punk band The Offspring tried to steal the Chinese Democracy name from Guns n' Roses in April of two thousand and three. Capitalizing on Axel Rose's lengthy delay in releasing the album, the Offspring issued a press release announcing their new album would be titled Chinese Democracy and then in parentheses, you snooze, you Lose. That was going to be the full title, Chinese Democracy. You choose, you snooze, you Lose. Axel Roses camp quickly responded with a cease and desist order.

Speaker 3: The Offspring eventually dropped the name and released their record as Splinter. I always I always thought that was hilarious when the Offspring did that. Chinese Democracy you snooze, you lose. Oh and by the way, because I'm looking at it here, it was fourteen years years of this mythical, mysterious album called Chinese Democracy by Guns n' Roses, fourteen years until it finally came out at But sure enough, he went with that title. He just really loved that title, I guess. But yeah, the offspring, uh, the offspring that was I guess it was an April fool's joke by them, according to this other article that I'm looking at.

Speaker 3: But yeah, they went with that title and they got to see some decision. But see a lot of how does that even work? Because a lot of albums, just like a lot of song titles, you know, there's a lot of song titles where you know, you think about a song title and you say, well, there's a million songs that have that title, and there's there certainly are albums where more than one artist has the same album title. I just want to see if there's any other examples of this. Are there other examples, God bless ai, are there other examples of this type of thing?

Speaker 3: And just see if there are, because I'm curious now that we're talking about this while direct Attempts to hijack a highly anticipated album name to troll a rival are rare. The music industry has seen several famous battles over stolen album titles, parody naming wars, and branding beefs. Oh, there's a few of them here, all right, let's look at this. The first one Limp Biscuit versus Ministry. In two thousand and one, Fred Durst announced the highly anticipated new Olympiscuit album would be titled less than Zero.

Speaker 3: Hearing this, Al Jorgensen, frontman of the industrial metal band Ministry, decided to mess with them. Ministry quickly announced that their upcoming album would also be called less than Zero to steal olymp Biscuits thunder Durst backed down and changed his album title to Chocolate Starfish on the Hot Dog Flavored Water, while Three eventually released their album as how do you even say that? In a moss? I can't even say it. Long word starts with a probably a made up word. But yeah, I didn't know about that.

Speaker 3: I did not know about that.

Speaker 1: But less than Zero.

Speaker 3: That's also the name of a movie, less than Zero. If this album had come out as lesson zero, would one of the producers of the movie Sue Limpiscuit for that. I mean why not. I mean, if they had the same legal team as Maren Wade the Podcaster, I'm sure they would. Let's see The Replacements versus the Beatles. Oh, the Replacements tried to release an album called let It Be Can't do that Ugly Kid Joe versus two Live Crew over the title as ugly as they want to be. Yeah, there's a bunch of examples of it.

Speaker 3: But yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 3: But anyway, I just say all that to say Marin Wade, Maren whatever the Podcaster, her lawsuit is frivolous. Hey, let's play a grim Rock song. This is gonna be the This is the first grim Rock song that we ever played on the show. His first single, I believe It's called Don't You grim Rock is gonna be here with us a little bit later. Jenny is here. Now I'm gonna go let her into the building. But here it is. This is don't You from grim Rock, who will be joining us live in studio in just a little bit stick around.

Speaker 1: Show me.

Speaker 9: I think you.

Speaker 1: The clock is let take out tripping, Don't you go away? Don't you go what you like?

Speaker 10: Don't you know?

Speaker 7: What you tell me?

Speaker 1: So many knew I think you'll mine? Where is it really? House time? Man boat going run anyway? Don't you know what you man?

Speaker 7: Don't you know? You an know what you mad? Don't you go away?

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Speaker 3: That is, don't you by? Grim Rock and grim Rock will be here in a little bit. This is, of course Matt Connordon Unleashed and we're live from the studios of WMNH ninety five point threem Glorious of Manchester, New Hampshire. Jenny is here at the news table. She has arrived.

Speaker 11: I have arrived cold Yeah.

Speaker 3: It is yeah, and we're gonna be going to see Grimrock of course tonight. The show is called Demons at the Disco. It is at the spot in Manchester. I mean, I'm sorry not in Manchester.

Speaker 11: I'm excited.

Speaker 3: Opening for the Melted Chapsticks. Let's see show is at eight pm. It is all ages, ten dollars cover at the door and yeah, really looking forward to that. And of course he's gonna be here in a little bit. Is he playing live in the studio or is he just coming in?

Speaker 11: He's definitely coming in as grim.

Speaker 3: Oh Okay, so he'll be in full uh full, Yes, Yeah, he.

Speaker 11: Wanted me to forewarn anyone who may be around.

Speaker 7: Right.

Speaker 11: No, that's that's great, so they wouldn't be concerned when they saw him.

Speaker 3: Right.

Speaker 12: He's awesome and his character is awesome, and we've known him for years and it's such a delight that where he's going to be live with us.

Speaker 11: He's definitely here. I saw his post.

Speaker 12: He's in he's in New Hampshire. Yeah, this is an exciting trip for them too. They're going all over the country and that's awesome.

Speaker 3: Absolutely. Uh, let's see if let's if you are just joining us too. Right before the song I played, while not played, I talked about the latest uh. We talked about some music industry news, the latest chapter in the saga of Taylor Swift versus a podcaster who is suing her over the name life of a showgirl. And again I maintained my position that it is a terribly frivolous lawsuit and it's really silly. But unfortunately Maren Wade's legal team seems to have scored what could be a victory as they continue to push this forward.

Speaker 3: And I really thought it would get thrown out by now, So I'm pretty stunned.

Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, like, why is it still here?

Speaker 13: Yeah?

Speaker 12: I was listening to you on the way in. Yeah, of course, but yeah, and here we are yet again.

Speaker 11: Appear well.

Speaker 3: I was being of frivolous lawsuits. So this is something that popped up from a digitalmusicnews dot com uh filing frivolity against Nelly. Judge saddles attorney suing the rapper with a heavy fine. So there can be consequences for filing a frivolous lawsuit, it says here Ouch, the attorney who sued Nelly for allegedly excluding his former bandmates from credits for his wildly successful debut solo album Country Grammar, has been ordered to pay the rappers legal fees. Precious Felder Gates, that's the attorney's name.

Speaker 3: The attorney funny with their parents, Precious Felder Gates, who would do that to their kid? The attorney for per former Saint Lunatic's member Ali Jones. So if you don't know, if you don't know Saint Lunatics, that's the sort of the supergroup that Nelly was a part of, the hip hop supergroup. They released I think multiple albums as Saint Lunatics and I think they performed at the Super Bowl as as or it was Nelly performing at the Super Bowl, but Saint Lunatics joined him or something. I can't remember exactly, but so.

Speaker 3: The attorney for former Saint Lunatic's member Ali Jones, who launched litigation against Nelly, has been ordered to pay sixty seven and eighty six dollars to reimburse the Country Grammar rapper for legal fees he incurred while battling the quote frivolous copyright lawsuit. So you know, think about that before we file a frivolous lawsuit against someone. You might end up paying the legal fees and it could blow up in your face.

Speaker 12: Seriously, this should be more accountability to people that use the legal system as a vengeful weapon.

Speaker 3: Absolutely, Nelly's legal counsel Kennethy Freudblitch or Freundlich said, quote courts have limited patients for litigation used as a weapon rather than a remedy. Frivolous litigation isn't free unquote. Filed in twenty twenty four, the lawsuit originally claimed that Nelly intentionally excluded his former Saint Lunatic's bandmates from credits and royalties for his debut solo album, Country Grammar. However, three members Murphy Lee, Kaiwan and City Spud immediately Withdrew, stating they never authorized the case and wanted no involvement.

Speaker 3: Ultimately, Ali Jones dropped the suit in April last year after Nelly's team argued that it violated the three year statute of limitations. It's a tight statute of limitations three years. But Nelly and Universal Music Group ugh that that name comes up all the time. UMG we talking about lawsuits. They're always involved in lawsuits. Nelly and UMG quickly went to work seeking sanctions, legal penalties for a frivolous case, and reimbursement for unnecessary fees. Now, a federal judge is ruled that Jones's attorney must pay sixty seven, five hundred and eighty six dollars for more than one hundred and fifty hours of legal work done by Nelly's three lawyers.

Speaker 11: That's an insane amount of money.

Speaker 1: Wow.

Speaker 3: Though attorney Precious Felder Gates posited that Nelly's demands were excessive, a judge largely rejected those arguments, ruling in October that it should have been patently obvious that the case was doomed. Initially, Nelly's lawyers asked for seventy eight thousand and seven dollars, which Feldergates argued was unreasonable and that the hours worked were excessive, but the judge ruled that the case required detailed work and that the rates were in fact, quote in line with both the prevailing market rates and the rates charged by attorneys of similar experience unquote.

Speaker 3: So there you go. So maybe something like that will happen to Marin Wade or whatever her name is the podcast or there who's suing Taylor Swift.

Speaker 11: Right, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 7: It is.

Speaker 3: It is something else too, some YouTube news YouTube reveals This is from music ally dot com. YouTube reveals latest changes to its AI content label system. This is something that you know could affect musicians and anybody who's creating content on YouTube, like the show for example, we stream on YouTube, says here. YouTube has been labeling AI generated videos since twenty twenty four if the creators disclosed their use of AI tools when uploading it. Now, the company has made some changes to its labeling system.

Speaker 3: First, the labels will now be simpler and more prominent, shown directly below the video player for long form videos and as an overlay within YouTube shorts. The big change, though, is that YouTube is now using its own AI detection technology to spot videos that are AI generated. Oh good, but haven't been disclosed as such.

Speaker 11: I like this change.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, it's like change. It makes sense, it does. YouTube said quote. If a creator does not specify whether or not they used AI, but our systems detect significant photorealistic AI use, we will now automatically apply labels unquote if the system falls flat, because this is something I always worry about people getting caught in the net who shouldn't be. If the system false flags of video, the creator will be able to update its disclosure status in the YouTube studio dash unless they used YouTube's own AI tools or their video includes metadata showing that it is fully generative generative AI.

Speaker 14: Uh.

Speaker 3: YouTube's added in its announcement quote It's important to note that it is disclosure label alone does not change how a video is recommended or whether it's eligible to earn money unquote. Yeah.

Speaker 15: So.

Speaker 3: Part of why that's important for content creators on YouTube is if you you know if your content is monetized or monetizable. You know, if it's fully AI generated, they're not going to let you monetize it. But there's a lot of things that you can't monetize on YouTube anyway, you know, for.

Speaker 12: Identifying AI and holding the creators of AI accountable for the materials they used to train their machines. There was a thing I saw earlier about people who have had their books because I got to notice as I have a published people who have had their books taken illegally and used to train AI. Now there's law firms suing for that. You talk about lawsuits all the artists who have been completely ripped off to create this stuff and then it gets put out there. And what I don't like is some of the stuff is so good it tricks people, right, and that's risky in so many ways.

Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple other quick things. This relates to something we talked about on the show. I think a couple of weeks ago. Individual states are making laws about capping the resale value of tickets. And what that means is people who scalp tickets. So and I don't mean just individuals. You know, like we've all seen, if you've been to concerts, you've all seen people outside, you know, trying to sell you a ticket. I sold out show. I can sell you a ticket for an exorbitant amount of money. But very often when we talk about this, we're talking websites, resale websites where they buy tickets from Ticketmaster and then resell them, and it's a dirty business.

Speaker 3: The ticketing business is a really dirty business. So we've talked about that a lot on the show over the years. But now you have individual states that are making laws about actually capping the price at which you can legally resell a ticket, which is going to hurt these resellers. But Vermont has now done this, and I'm actually surprised at how low the cap is. This is from Music Businessworldwide dot com. Vermont caps ticket resale prices at one hundred and ten percent of face value in law backed by Noah Khan.

Speaker 3: It says Vermont has signed into law a cap on the resale price of concert, entertainment and sporting event tickets. Governor Phil Scott signed h five to one to two into law on Tuesday, May twenty six, capping resale prices at one hundred ten percent of a ticket's original face value. So that means, and again I'm not good at math, but if you are reselling a ticket, you can only market up ten percent because one hundred ten percent of its original face value means you can only market up ten percent, which is not much of a profit, but that's literally how much you can mark up the ticket.

Speaker 3: The law also bans speculative ticket sales, where a reseller lists tickets they do not yet own, and prohibits secondary ticket exchanges from using deceptive URLs or falsely implying an affirmation with a venue or artist. Vermont is the only US state to have enacted an enforceable cap on ticket prices. So there you go. So Vermont is they're now the first ones to do that, But that is the beginning of a trend. We're gonna take a break, We're gonna show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then when we come back for the third hour, I believe he's in the building, grim Rock will be with us.

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Speaker 3: And for additional content you can now go to Matt connorton Unleashed dot com our news site which has a full archive and everything you could want to do with the show, and we're adding additional content to that as well. If you aren't listening live. Today is Saturday May thirtieth, two thoy twenty six. Grim Rock is on tour and he's been on the show with us a bunch of times, but now we get to actually meet him. He is here with us live in studio. Let me get that mic on there. We've got the He's actually gonna play a song for us in a moment.

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