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Speaker 3: to Robin Ross, who was here with us in the
Speaker 3: first hour of the program from the great state of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: He joined us via Microsoft Teams and we're talking all
Speaker 3: about Robin Ross and the Mellowdnes and the new album MySpace,
Speaker 3: MySpace Mindspace, MySpace Boy. That takes me back. My MySpace
Speaker 3: account still exists. By the way, did you know if
Speaker 3: you had an account on MySpace back in the day,
Speaker 3: it's probably still there because even if you try to
Speaker 3: delete it, and you know, not everyone's necessarily proud of
Speaker 3: their old MySpace account, but they make it very differicult.
Speaker 3: It's weird. It's like, you know, if Armageddon ever happens,
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of it there will be
Speaker 3: cockroaches and MySpace will still exist and that'll be it.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so thank you again Robin Ross for joining us.
Speaker 3: And of course in the later on in the show,
Speaker 3: we have grim Rock who's going to be with us
Speaker 3: as well. So two Pennsylvania artists today. What are the odds.
Speaker 3: I don't know, one in I mean those fifty states,
Speaker 3: so maybe the odds are one in fifty I don't know.
Speaker 3: But grim Rock will be here with us later today.
Speaker 3: Really looking forward to that. Another great artist from Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: who's been on the show a bunch, but today we
Speaker 3: get to actually meet grim in person. He will be
Speaker 3: here with us later in the show because tonight, so
Speaker 3: he's on tour. Tonight he is playing at the Spot
Speaker 3: in Nashua for a show called Demons at the Disco
Speaker 3: Live Ault Rock, glamb and punk music, mocktails and cava,
Speaker 3: late night bite stands for fun and door prizes. So
Speaker 3: Melted the Melted Chapsticks playing tonight, and of course Grim
Speaker 3: Rock is opening show starts at eight pm. That is
Speaker 3: tonight for those of you listening live on May thirtieth,
Speaker 3: tonight at eight pm. This is an all ages show,
Speaker 3: so no alcohol, but you can bring the family, so
Speaker 3: let your kids go to the show. It's great to
Speaker 3: see an all ages show like this, because I was
Speaker 3: talking about it during the first hour, So if you've
Speaker 3: been listening to the whole show, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: bore you with my whole diatribe isn't quite the right word,
Speaker 3: but my soliloquy, if you will. But it is great
Speaker 3: to see all ages shows like this because usually you know,
Speaker 3: if you go to local shows at bars and clubs
Speaker 3: and whatnot. They're either eighteen plus or twenty one plus,
Speaker 3: so it's great to see an all ages show, and
Speaker 3: the Spot does a lot of these, so a great place.
Speaker 3: We've had Mike McDowell, also known as the Healer, he's
Speaker 3: been on the show with us. He was on the
Speaker 3: show actually back before the Spot had opened up. He
Speaker 3: was preparing to open the place, and so they've been
Speaker 3: going for a while now and apparently having a lot
Speaker 3: of success. So Jenny and I will be there tonight
Speaker 3: for the show grim Rock opening for the Melted Chapsticks
Speaker 3: tonight at the Spot again. Starts at eight pm, ten
Speaker 3: dollars cover all ages. Can't wait, so come down and
Speaker 3: say hello. Let's see I think we should do some
Speaker 3: music industry news. There is a story. So we talked
Speaker 3: about this on the show a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: this lawsuit. And you know, the thing is, when you
Speaker 3: get to be as successful as Taylor Swift, you know,
Speaker 3: you've got all the money in the world, and that's great,
Speaker 3: but you know, I mean, she's arguably one of the
Speaker 3: biggest stars in the world right not just in the
Speaker 3: United States but globally, a global icon if you will truly,
Speaker 3: I mean she's ascended to that point. But when you
Speaker 3: have all the money in the world, some people want
Speaker 3: to take some of it from you. And I'm not
Speaker 3: just talking about taxes. I'm talking about people who sue you.
Speaker 3: Now we talked about this again. I forgot it was
Speaker 3: either two weeks ago or three weeks ago on the
Speaker 3: show this lawsuit. So when you have money, people sue
Speaker 3: you to try to get your money. And there is
Speaker 3: this podcaster named Maren Flagg who has a podcast called
Speaker 3: Confessions of a Showgirl, who has sued Taylor Swift over
Speaker 3: a trademark infringement because Taylor Swift has an album called
Speaker 3: Life of a Showgirl. So Maren flag her podcast is
Speaker 3: called Confessions of a Showgirl, but she, apparently in her
Speaker 3: legal team, feels that Taylor Swift has infringed on her
Speaker 3: trademark with her album Life of a Showgirl. So I
Speaker 3: guess and by that logic, and so we have an update.
Speaker 3: That's why we're going there's an update on this that
Speaker 3: actually really surprises me. But I was surprised by all
Speaker 3: of this and pretty critical of it because to me,
Speaker 3: it sounds like a frivolous lawsuit. You know. I mean, yes,
Speaker 3: both Life of a Showgirl and Confessions of a Showgirl
Speaker 3: have the word showgirl in them. But by the lie,
Speaker 3: if you're going to call that trademark infringement, by that logic,
Speaker 3: I guess Maren Flagg, with her podcast Confessions of a Showgirl,
Speaker 3: I guess you can't ever have the word show girl
Speaker 3: and anything ever, because if you do, you're infringing on
Speaker 3: her trade. I guess she now owns all the rights
Speaker 3: to the word showgirl. You know, am I gonna end
Speaker 3: up owing this woman money for even saying the word
Speaker 3: show girl multiple times on the show today as we
Speaker 3: talk about this, I mean, you know, by that logic,
Speaker 3: I guess I should, right, I must owe her something.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's absurd to me. You know, Life of
Speaker 3: a Showgirl Confessions of a Showgirl not the same thing.
Speaker 3: They both use the word showgirl, they also both use
Speaker 3: the words of and uh you know, I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: It's very silly to me, and I feel that this
Speaker 3: is a very frivolous lawsuit. And I agreed with what
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's legal team has said about this, that it
Speaker 3: is frivolous and this woman, Maren Flagg, this podcaster, or
Speaker 3: she's just cloud chasing. A lot of podcasters do that,
Speaker 3: by the way. But there's a new wrinkled all of this.
Speaker 3: Because I thought this would get thrown out. I really did.
Speaker 3: This is so obviously frivolous, but no. This is an
Speaker 3: update from a couple days ago. This is from Digitalmusicnews
Speaker 3: dot Com, one of my favorite websites for music industry news.
Speaker 3: Judge considers injunction against Taylor Swift's Life of a Showgirl
Speaker 3: branding as trademark battle intensifies intensifies. So this podcaster Maren Flagg,
Speaker 3: who apparently believes that she just owns the rights to
Speaker 3: the word showgirl. She's actually getting some traction with this.
Speaker 3: I guess I really thought this would have gone away
Speaker 3: by now. I would have thought this would have gotten
Speaker 3: thrown out for being frivolous, But no, so it says
Speaker 3: here again. This is from the article from Digital Musicnews
Speaker 3: dot com. A judge weighs an injunction against Taylor Swift's
Speaker 3: Life of a Showgirl branding and light of her trademark's
Speaker 3: prior suspension due to actual showgirl Maren Wade's own trademark. Oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, so about the name because I said
Speaker 3: Maren Flag. Maren Flagg is her legal name, but she's
Speaker 3: a former Vegas showgirl named Maren Wade, so I guess
Speaker 3: Maren Wade is her stage name. Maren Flagg is her
Speaker 3: legal name. So just in case anyone's confused about the
Speaker 3: Maren's because I was thrown by that for a second. Again,
Speaker 3: I think this is I think this is absurd. I
Speaker 3: can't believe this is happening. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 3: mean again, Taylor Swift has all the money in the world.
Speaker 3: It's not like I feel sorry for her and this
Speaker 3: kind of thing happens. But this is really absurd to me.
Speaker 3: But I'm not a legal expert of any kind. I'm
Speaker 3: a layman, you know, I'm not. I mean, I do know.
Speaker 3: I do have some knowledge about intellectual property and trademark
Speaker 3: and copyright and all that kind of thing, just because
Speaker 3: of some of the work that I've done in the
Speaker 3: music industry.
Speaker 7: But I.
Speaker 3: So I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a legal expert.
Speaker 3: I'm probably speaking out of turn here, but this just
Speaker 3: seems absurd to me. All Right, So let's look at
Speaker 3: this article. Here's the update on this. If you thought
Speaker 3: former Vegas showgirl Maren Wade legal name Maren Flag was
Speaker 3: trying to ride Taylor Swift's coattails over the latter's Life
Speaker 3: of a Showgirl branding. Think again when I still think that.
Speaker 3: When Taylor Swift's team tried to file their trademark for
Speaker 3: the megastar's latest album, it was suspended after they discovered
Speaker 3: a pre existing trademark for Flags, similarly named Confessions of
Speaker 3: a Showgirl. Even the trademark office thought there could be
Speaker 3: confusion between the two entities. Okay, let's stop on that
Speaker 3: for a moment, because I know a little bit about
Speaker 3: how this part works when you file for a trademark
Speaker 3: on something. Because apparently when Taylor Swift when her team,
Speaker 3: when her representation filed for the trademark, I still find
Speaker 3: this even this is hard to believe, but apparently when
Speaker 3: they filed for the trademark Life of a Showgirl, it
Speaker 3: was initially rejected for being too similar to another existing trademark.
Speaker 3: Now that part surprises me, but it's not unusual. When
Speaker 3: you file for a trademark. Sometimes you get rejected on
Speaker 3: the first pass because you have to supply additional you
Speaker 3: have to make some clarifications about what exactly the branding
Speaker 3: the trademark that you're filing for, what it's going to
Speaker 3: be used for, how it's going to be used, and
Speaker 3: if there is a concern that it's too close to
Speaker 3: an existing trademark, you have to kind of you have
Speaker 3: to supply documentation or explanations explaining why it's not and
Speaker 3: why there is not going to be any confusion, because
Speaker 3: again we're talking about two different things. Not only you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the word showgirl is in both names, but
Speaker 3: that's not enough from my perspective. Not only that, but
Speaker 3: Life of a Showgirl is the name of an album
Speaker 3: by Taylor Swift, Confessions of a Showgirl is the name
Speaker 3: of a podcast by a former Las Vegas showgirl. To me,
Speaker 3: those two things are different enough that no one is
Speaker 3: going to be confused. No one is going to be confused.
Speaker 3: But very often when you file for a trademark, it
Speaker 3: does it may get I know because I've done it.
Speaker 3: It may get rejected on the first attempt, and you
Speaker 3: might have to supply, you might have to resubmit and
Speaker 3: supply additional information and clarifications. So I'm surprised the trademark
Speaker 3: off is even rejected it the first time as being
Speaker 3: too similar. But they did apparently they did. We know that,
Speaker 3: But so Swift her team then had to resubmit it.
Speaker 3: I assume they made whatever clarifications they needed to and
Speaker 3: were able to trademark Life of a Showgirl. So again,
Speaker 3: it's just not unusual for that to go that way.
Speaker 3: It happens. Okay, Now, according to the article the initial rejection,
Speaker 3: it says that's an important detail because it proves that
Speaker 3: Swift's team was aware of Flag's brand ahead of time,
Speaker 3: but opted to go ahead with their own showgirl project. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we do know, right, So, as the article points out,
Speaker 3: so Swift's legal team knew, I mean, they probably didn't
Speaker 3: know or they may not have known when they filed
Speaker 3: the initial trademark, but when they had to submit a
Speaker 3: follow up to get the trademark, they knew about Confessions
Speaker 3: of a Showgirl Megan Wade's podcast. But again, so what
Speaker 3: clearly two different things? So what who cares? Okay? It
Speaker 3: says here the lawsuit filed by Flag and her team
Speaker 3: argue that Swift's massive commercial footprint has caused reverse confusion
Speaker 3: quote unquote that's their term. I didn't know this was
Speaker 3: a thing. You know, you hear terms like reverse discrimination
Speaker 3: and things like that. I didn't know about reverse confusion.
Speaker 3: That must be a legal term, reverse confusion that effectively
Speaker 3: erodes and absorbs her decade old federally registered Confessions of
Speaker 3: a Showgirl trademark. Swift's team clapped back, stating that her
Speaker 3: album is an expressive work protected by the First Amendment,
Speaker 3: making an injunction extreme and unnecessary. They also took it
Speaker 3: a step further, asserting that Flag rode Swift's enormous marketing
Speaker 3: machine for eight and a half months and reaping all
Speaker 3: the benefits of potential confusion between the two brands before
Speaker 3: filing her lawsuit. Yeah, and there is evidence of that
Speaker 3: of Megan Flag trying to ride the coattails. See, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't try to lag. I mean, look, it's smart.
Speaker 3: You can. You can overshoot and end up looking desperate,
Speaker 3: which Megan Flag, Megan Wade whatever you want to call her,
Speaker 3: not Megan Maren sorry the podcaster. You can overshoot and
Speaker 3: end up looking desperate if you're not careful. But anytime,
Speaker 3: and this is one of the first things I learned
Speaker 3: in the music industry. Anytime that you can somehow associate
Speaker 3: yourself with an entity of some sort that is bigger
Speaker 3: than you. It can only help you, right, It adds
Speaker 3: to your credibility. These days, we refer to it as
Speaker 3: social proof.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: Anytime that you can associate with an entity that is
Speaker 3: bigger than you, that can be helpful as long as
Speaker 3: it's a positive association. So I can see why the
Speaker 3: podcaster would attempt to do that, But you can't try
Speaker 3: to do that. And then, I mean, again, I'm not illegal, like,
Speaker 3: but I'm just thinking about this Logically, you can't try
Speaker 3: to do that intentionally, go out of your way to
Speaker 3: associate with something bigger, a larger entity, and then turn
Speaker 3: around and say that larger entity has harmed me because
Speaker 3: that larger entity what they harmed you by creating what
Speaker 3: you ended up using as an opportunity to try to
Speaker 3: boost your own profile, and then when that didn't work
Speaker 3: out for you, you turn around and you file a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: This is so frivolous to me. I can't believe this
Speaker 3: is still going on. Okay, it says here Taylor Swift's
Speaker 3: trademark application. This is an important detail Taylor Swift's trademark
Speaker 3: application for Life of a Showgirl, filed by her intellectual
Speaker 3: property management company, Task Rights Management, hit a major roadblock
Speaker 3: at the United States Patent and Trademark Office back in March.
Speaker 3: Rather than being simply approved, the application was hit with
Speaker 3: a non final likelihood of confusion refuse usual and was
Speaker 3: officially suspended. That means that, while no action has been
Speaker 3: taken thus far, the judge has concluded hearings on the
Speaker 3: matter by stating that she quote planned to issue a
Speaker 3: written ruling shortly unquote In theory that could mean a
Speaker 3: legal injunction against Taylor Swift's branding, given that Flag's own
Speaker 3: legal trademark precedes it. It's the latest interesting twist in
Speaker 3: what seemed at face value like a potentially frivolous lawsuit.
Speaker 3: And that's that's the update. So this is a this
Speaker 3: is a new twist. Uh again, Uh, this is a
Speaker 3: potentially frivolous lawsuit. This is a frivolous lawsuit. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, they're not They're not the same thing. And
Speaker 3: you know what this kind of reminds me of though
Speaker 3: when I think about, actually, I'm gonna look this up.
Speaker 3: There was a band. Okay, so for years and years
Speaker 3: and years there was a band, well, Guns n' Roses,
Speaker 3: the Axel Rose would would talk about this album called
Speaker 3: Chinese Democracy, and it was a weird thing. Like for
Speaker 3: those of you who are old enough to remember, Chinese
Speaker 3: Democracy was talked about and floating around in the ether
Speaker 3: for I mean, I don't know, it might have been
Speaker 3: more than a decade before it finally came out, and
Speaker 3: it was this really weird situation where I guess Axel
Speaker 3: Rose just really liked that title Chinese Democracy and thought
Speaker 3: that would be a great name, the perfect name for
Speaker 3: the next Guns n' Roses album. Because the title of
Speaker 3: the album was announced as being Chinese Democracy in theory
Speaker 3: before anything was even recorded for it. It was just like,
Speaker 3: which is weird? I always thought that was so bizarre
Speaker 3: that he decided the name and announced the name like
Speaker 3: before there was ever even a hint that the album
Speaker 3: was going to be coming out, and it became just
Speaker 3: this running joke. Oh yeah, there's there's this make believe
Speaker 3: album called Chinese Democracy by Guns n' Roses that we
Speaker 3: all know is never going to come out, by the way. Eventually,
Speaker 3: it did eventually, but that title existed for so long
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, Axel Rose was so committed to
Speaker 3: the idea, the concept that that was going to be
Speaker 3: the name of the album. So finally, somebody, and forgive me,
Speaker 3: I cannot remember who it was, so I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to google this as quickly as I can
Speaker 3: while I'm live on the air. Another band tried to
Speaker 3: call their album Chinese Democracy. What band tried to steal
Speaker 3: the name, which I thought at the time was hilarious.
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: Was the Offspring? I found it? The Offspring punk band
Speaker 3: The Offspring tried to steal the Chinese Democracy name from
Speaker 3: Guns n' Roses in April of two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: Capitalizing on Axel Rose's lengthy delay in releasing the album,
Speaker 3: the Offspring issued a press release announcing their new album
Speaker 3: would be titled Chinese Democracy and then in parentheses, you snooze,
Speaker 3: you Lose. That was going to be the full title,
Speaker 3: Chinese Democracy. You choose, you snooze, you Lose. Axel Roses
Speaker 3: camp quickly responded with a cease and desist order. The
Speaker 3: Offspring eventually dropped the name and released their record as Splinter.
Speaker 3: I always I always thought that was hilarious when the
Speaker 3: Offspring did that. Chinese Democracy you snooze, you lose. Oh
Speaker 3: and by the way, because I'm looking at it here,
Speaker 3: it was fourteen years years of this mythical, mysterious album
Speaker 3: called Chinese Democracy by Guns n' Roses, fourteen years until
Speaker 3: it finally came out at But sure enough, he went
Speaker 3: with that title. He just really loved that title, I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the offspring, uh, the offspring that was I
Speaker 3: guess it was an April fool's joke by them, according
Speaker 3: to this other article that I'm looking at. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they went with that title and they got to see
Speaker 3: some decision. But see a lot of how does that
Speaker 3: even work? Because a lot of albums, just like a
Speaker 3: lot of song titles, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: song titles where you know, you think about a song
Speaker 3: title and you say, well, there's a million songs that
Speaker 3: have that title, and there's there certainly are albums where
Speaker 3: more than one artist has the same album title. I
Speaker 3: just want to see if there's any other examples of this.
Speaker 3: Are there other examples, God bless ai, are there other
Speaker 3: examples of this type of thing? And just see if
Speaker 3: there are, because I'm curious now that we're talking about
Speaker 3: this while direct Attempts to hijack a highly anticipated album
Speaker 3: name to troll a rival are rare. The music industry
Speaker 3: has seen several famous battles over stolen album titles, parody
Speaker 3: naming wars, and branding beefs. Oh, there's a few of
Speaker 3: them here, all right, let's look at this. The first
Speaker 3: one Limp Biscuit versus Ministry. In two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: Fred Durst announced the highly anticipated new Olympiscuit album would
Speaker 3: be titled less than Zero. Hearing this, Al Jorgensen, frontman
Speaker 3: of the industrial metal band Ministry, decided to mess with them.
Speaker 3: Ministry quickly announced that their upcoming album would also be
Speaker 3: called less than Zero to steal olymp Biscuits thunder Durst
Speaker 3: backed down and changed his album title to Chocolate Starfish
Speaker 3: on the Hot Dog Flavored Water, while Three eventually released
Speaker 3: their album as how do you even say that? In
Speaker 3: a moss? I can't even say it. Long word starts
Speaker 3: with a probably a made up word. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't know about that. I did not know about that.
Speaker 1: But less than Zero.
Speaker 3: That's also the name of a movie, less than Zero.
Speaker 3: If this album had come out as lesson zero, would
Speaker 3: one of the producers of the movie Sue Limpiscuit for that.
Speaker 3: I mean why not. I mean, if they had the
Speaker 3: same legal team as Maren Wade the Podcaster, I'm sure
Speaker 3: they would. Let's see The Replacements versus the Beatles. Oh,
Speaker 3: the Replacements tried to release an album called let It
Speaker 3: Be Can't do that Ugly Kid Joe versus two Live
Speaker 3: Crew over the title as ugly as they want to be. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of examples of it. But yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just say all that to say Marin Wade,
Speaker 3: Maren whatever the Podcaster, her lawsuit is frivolous. Hey, let's
Speaker 3: play a grim Rock song. This is gonna be the
Speaker 3: This is the first grim Rock song that we ever
Speaker 3: played on the show. His first single, I believe It's
Speaker 3: called Don't You grim Rock is gonna be here with
Speaker 3: us a little bit later. Jenny is here. Now I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go let her into the building. But here it is.
Speaker 3: This is don't You from grim Rock, who will be
Speaker 3: joining us live in studio in just a little bit
Speaker 3: stick around.
Speaker 1: Show me.
Speaker 9: I think you.
Speaker 1: The clock is let take out tripping, Don't you go away?
Speaker 1: Don't you go what you like?
Speaker 10: Don't you know?
Speaker 7: What you tell me?
Speaker 1: So many knew I think you'll mine? Where is it really?
Speaker 1: House time? Man boat going run anyway? Don't you know
Speaker 1: what you man?
Speaker 7: Don't you know? You an know what you mad? Don't
Speaker 7: you go away?
Speaker 1: What you what you.
Speaker 7: Did?
Speaker 1: You get your bloo?
Speaker 3: That is, don't you by? Grim Rock and grim Rock
Speaker 3: will be here in a little bit. This is, of
Speaker 3: course Matt Connordon Unleashed and we're live from the studios
Speaker 3: of WMNH ninety five point threem Glorious of Manchester, New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: Jenny is here at the news table. She has arrived.
Speaker 11: I have arrived cold Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is yeah, and we're gonna be going to see
Speaker 3: Grimrock of course tonight. The show is called Demons at
Speaker 3: the Disco. It is at the spot in Manchester. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry not in Manchester.
Speaker 11: I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Opening for the Melted Chapsticks. Let's see show is at
Speaker 3: eight pm. It is all ages, ten dollars cover at
Speaker 3: the door and yeah, really looking forward to that. And
Speaker 3: of course he's gonna be here in a little bit.
Speaker 3: Is he playing live in the studio or is he
Speaker 3: just coming in?
Speaker 11: He's definitely coming in as grim.
Speaker 3: Oh Okay, so he'll be in full uh full, Yes, Yeah, he.
Speaker 11: Wanted me to forewarn anyone who may be around.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 11: No, that's that's great, so they wouldn't be concerned when
Speaker 11: they saw him.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 12: He's awesome and his character is awesome, and we've known
Speaker 12: him for years and it's such a delight that where
Speaker 12: he's going to be live with us.
Speaker 11: He's definitely here. I saw his post.
Speaker 12: He's in he's in New Hampshire. Yeah, this is an
Speaker 12: exciting trip for them too. They're going all over the
Speaker 12: country and that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Uh, let's see if let's if you are just
Speaker 3: joining us too. Right before the song I played, while
Speaker 3: not played, I talked about the latest uh. We talked
Speaker 3: about some music industry news, the latest chapter in the
Speaker 3: saga of Taylor Swift versus a podcaster who is suing
Speaker 3: her over the name life of a showgirl. And again
Speaker 3: I maintained my position that it is a terribly frivolous
Speaker 3: lawsuit and it's really silly. But unfortunately Maren Wade's legal
Speaker 3: team seems to have scored what could be a victory
Speaker 3: as they continue to push this forward. And I really
Speaker 3: thought it would get thrown out by now, So I'm
Speaker 3: pretty stunned.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, like, why is it still here?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I was listening to you on the way in. Yeah,
Speaker 12: of course, but yeah, and here we are yet again.
Speaker 11: Appear well.
Speaker 3: I was being of frivolous lawsuits. So this is something
Speaker 3: that popped up from a digitalmusicnews dot com uh filing
Speaker 3: frivolity against Nelly. Judge saddles attorney suing the rapper with
Speaker 3: a heavy fine. So there can be consequences for filing
Speaker 3: a frivolous lawsuit, it says here Ouch, the attorney who
Speaker 3: sued Nelly for allegedly excluding his former bandmates from credits
Speaker 3: for his wildly successful debut solo album Country Grammar, has
Speaker 3: been ordered to pay the rappers legal fees. Precious Felder Gates,
Speaker 3: that's the attorney's name. The attorney funny with their parents,
Speaker 3: Precious Felder Gates, who would do that to their kid?
Speaker 3: The attorney for per former Saint Lunatic's member Ali Jones.
Speaker 3: So if you don't know, if you don't know Saint Lunatics,
Speaker 3: that's the sort of the supergroup that Nelly was a
Speaker 3: part of, the hip hop supergroup. They released I think
Speaker 3: multiple albums as Saint Lunatics and I think they performed
Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl as as or it was Nelly
Speaker 3: performing at the Super Bowl, but Saint Lunatics joined him
Speaker 3: or something. I can't remember exactly, but so. The attorney
Speaker 3: for former Saint Lunatic's member Ali Jones, who launched litigation
Speaker 3: against Nelly, has been ordered to pay sixty seven and
Speaker 3: eighty six dollars to reimburse the Country Grammar rapper for
Speaker 3: legal fees he incurred while battling the quote frivolous copyright lawsuit.
Speaker 3: So you know, think about that before we file a
Speaker 3: frivolous lawsuit against someone. You might end up paying the
Speaker 3: legal fees and it could blow up in your face.
Speaker 12: Seriously, this should be more accountability to people that use
Speaker 12: the legal system as a vengeful weapon.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Nelly's legal counsel Kennethy Freudblitch or Freundlich said, quote
Speaker 3: courts have limited patients for litigation used as a weapon
Speaker 3: rather than a remedy. Frivolous litigation isn't free unquote. Filed
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, the lawsuit originally claimed that Nelly
Speaker 3: intentionally excluded his former Saint Lunatic's bandmates from credits and
Speaker 3: royalties for his debut solo album, Country Grammar. However, three
Speaker 3: members Murphy Lee, Kaiwan and City Spud immediately Withdrew, stating
Speaker 3: they never authorized the case and wanted no involvement. Ultimately,
Speaker 3: Ali Jones dropped the suit in April last year after
Speaker 3: Nelly's team argued that it violated the three year statute
Speaker 3: of limitations. It's a tight statute of limitations three years.
Speaker 3: But Nelly and Universal Music Group ugh that that name
Speaker 3: comes up all the time. UMG we talking about lawsuits.
Speaker 3: They're always involved in lawsuits. Nelly and UMG quickly went
Speaker 3: to work seeking sanctions, legal penalties for a frivolous case,
Speaker 3: and reimbursement for unnecessary fees. Now, a federal judge is
Speaker 3: ruled that Jones's attorney must pay sixty seven, five hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty six dollars for more than one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty hours of legal work done by Nelly's three lawyers.
Speaker 11: That's an insane amount of money.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Though attorney Precious Felder Gates posited that Nelly's demands were excessive,
Speaker 3: a judge largely rejected those arguments, ruling in October that
Speaker 3: it should have been patently obvious that the case was doomed. Initially,
Speaker 3: Nelly's lawyers asked for seventy eight thousand and seven dollars,
Speaker 3: which Feldergates argued was unreasonable and that the hours worked
Speaker 3: were excessive, but the judge ruled that the case required
Speaker 3: detailed work and that the rates were in fact, quote
Speaker 3: in line with both the prevailing market rates and the
Speaker 3: rates charged by attorneys of similar experience unquote. So there
Speaker 3: you go. So maybe something like that will happen to
Speaker 3: Marin Wade or whatever her name is the podcast or
Speaker 3: there who's suing Taylor Swift.
Speaker 11: Right, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 3: It is something else too, some YouTube news YouTube reveals
Speaker 3: This is from music ally dot com. YouTube reveals latest
Speaker 3: changes to its AI content label system. This is something
Speaker 3: that you know could affect musicians and anybody who's creating
Speaker 3: content on YouTube, like the show for example, we stream
Speaker 3: on YouTube, says here. YouTube has been labeling AI generated
Speaker 3: videos since twenty twenty four if the creators disclosed their
Speaker 3: use of AI tools when uploading it. Now, the company
Speaker 3: has made some changes to its labeling system. First, the
Speaker 3: labels will now be simpler and more prominent, shown directly
Speaker 3: below the video player for long form videos and as
Speaker 3: an overlay within YouTube shorts. The big change, though, is
Speaker 3: that YouTube is now using its own AI detection technology
Speaker 3: to spot videos that are AI generated. Oh good, but
Speaker 3: haven't been disclosed as such.
Speaker 11: I like this change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, it's like change. It makes sense,
Speaker 3: it does. YouTube said quote. If a creator does not
Speaker 3: specify whether or not they used AI, but our systems
Speaker 3: detect significant photorealistic AI use, we will now automatically apply
Speaker 3: labels unquote if the system falls flat, because this is
Speaker 3: something I always worry about people getting caught in the
Speaker 3: net who shouldn't be. If the system false flags of video,
Speaker 3: the creator will be able to update its disclosure status
Speaker 3: in the YouTube studio dash unless they used YouTube's own
Speaker 3: AI tools or their video includes metadata showing that it
Speaker 3: is fully generative generative AI.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 3: YouTube's added in its announcement quote It's important to note
Speaker 3: that it is disclosure label alone does not change how
Speaker 3: a video is recommended or whether it's eligible to earn
Speaker 3: money unquote. Yeah.
Speaker 15: So.
Speaker 3: Part of why that's important for content creators on YouTube
Speaker 3: is if you you know if your content is monetized
Speaker 3: or monetizable. You know, if it's fully AI generated, they're
Speaker 3: not going to let you monetize it. But there's a
Speaker 3: lot of things that you can't monetize on YouTube anyway,
Speaker 3: you know, for.
Speaker 12: Identifying AI and holding the creators of AI accountable for
Speaker 12: the materials they used to train their machines. There was
Speaker 12: a thing I saw earlier about people who have had
Speaker 12: their books because I got to notice as I have
Speaker 12: a published people who have had their books taken illegally
Speaker 12: and used to train AI. Now there's law firms suing
Speaker 12: for that. You talk about lawsuits all the artists who
Speaker 12: have been completely ripped off to create this stuff and
Speaker 12: then it gets put out there. And what I don't
Speaker 12: like is some of the stuff is so good it
Speaker 12: tricks people, right, and that's risky in so many ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple other quick things. This relates to something
Speaker 3: we talked about on the show. I think a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Individual states are making laws about capping
Speaker 3: the resale value of tickets. And what that means is
Speaker 3: people who scalp tickets. So and I don't mean just individuals.
Speaker 3: You know, like we've all seen, if you've been to concerts,
Speaker 3: you've all seen people outside, you know, trying to sell
Speaker 3: you a ticket. I sold out show. I can sell
Speaker 3: you a ticket for an exorbitant amount of money. But
Speaker 3: very often when we talk about this, we're talking websites,
Speaker 3: resale websites where they buy tickets from Ticketmaster and then
Speaker 3: resell them, and it's a dirty business. The ticketing business
Speaker 3: is a really dirty business. So we've talked about that
Speaker 3: a lot on the show over the years. But now
Speaker 3: you have individual states that are making laws about actually
Speaker 3: capping the price at which you can legally resell a ticket,
Speaker 3: which is going to hurt these resellers. But Vermont has
Speaker 3: now done this, and I'm actually surprised at how low
Speaker 3: the cap is. This is from Music Businessworldwide dot com.
Speaker 3: Vermont caps ticket resale prices at one hundred and ten
Speaker 3: percent of face value in law backed by Noah Khan.
Speaker 3: It says Vermont has signed into law a cap on
Speaker 3: the resale price of concert, entertainment and sporting event tickets.
Speaker 3: Governor Phil Scott signed h five to one to two
Speaker 3: into law on Tuesday, May twenty six, capping resale prices
Speaker 3: at one hundred ten percent of a ticket's original face value.
Speaker 3: So that means, and again I'm not good at math,
Speaker 3: but if you are reselling a ticket, you can only
Speaker 3: market up ten percent because one hundred ten percent of
Speaker 3: its original face value means you can only market up
Speaker 3: ten percent, which is not much of a profit, but
Speaker 3: that's literally how much you can mark up the ticket.
Speaker 3: The law also bans speculative ticket sales, where a reseller
Speaker 3: lists tickets they do not yet own, and prohibits secondary
Speaker 3: ticket exchanges from using deceptive URLs or falsely implying an
Speaker 3: affirmation with a venue or artist. Vermont is the only
Speaker 3: US state to have enacted an enforceable cap on ticket prices.
Speaker 3: So there you go. So Vermont is they're now the
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Speaker 3: been on the show with us a bunch of times,
Speaker 3: but now we get to actually meet him. He is
Speaker 3: here with us live in studio. Let me get that
Speaker 3: mic on there. We've got the He's actually gonna play
Speaker 3: a song for us in a moment. But hey, grim,
Speaker 3: let's see, I cannot hear you. Let me figure out why.
Speaker 3: Oh I think I hear something. Hey, welcome, Oh I
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Speaker 20: I am going to play the track, don't you that
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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, all right, all right, this will be great?
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