Matt Connarton Unleashed 5-30-26 hour 3

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1:26 Speaker 3: The way you will dream video.

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2:19 Speaker 4: All right, that is you belong you see. That is grim Rock and we've got grim Rock with us and we're going to introduce him in just a moment. Jenny is here, of course at the news table as we have entered our number three new Marrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed here from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course you can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com, slash live for all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera, and for additional content you can now go to Matt connorton Unleashed dot com our news site which has a full archive and everything you could want to do with the show, and we're at additional content to that as well.

3:01 Speaker 4: If you aren't listening live. Today is Saturday May thirtieth, two thy twenty six. Grim Rock is on tour and he's been on the show with us a bunch of times, but now we get to actually meet him. He is here with us live in studio. Let me get that mic on there, We've got the He's actually going to play a song for us in a moment. But hey, Grim, let's see I cannot hear you. Let me figure out why. Oh I think I hear something. Hey, welcome, Oh I can hear you. That's even more than half the battle Welcome, And uh, let me put that camera on.

3:40 Speaker 4: So if you are just listening to the audio of the show, when you get a chance, check out the video because Grim is in his full He's in his full regalia, he's got the makeup on. Everything is wonderful, very very cool. Strum that guitar for me a little, would you. Oh that sounds nice. That sounds nice. The headphones. So Grim's gonna play something for us, and then we're gonna we'll play another studio track and then we'll come back and talk. Uh take this opportunity to speak with Grim Rock here in studio.

4:10 Speaker 4: But what are you gonna play for us today?

4:12 Speaker 5: I am going to play the track don't you that you play? I'm gonna attempt to play it on the acoustic for you. But that way, this will be the first time I've actually played it on here, so really yeah, So we're gonna give it a shot to see what happens.

4:24 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, all right, all right, this will be great? All right, grim Rock live in studio.

5:07 Speaker 6: Leave me something in your fall, no idea your mind. The clock is known aspen and leave lost my mind. Don't you go running away? Don't you know what you mind?

5:29 Speaker 7: Find?

5:31 Speaker 1: Don't you know you running high?

5:35 Speaker 5: Don't you don't you.

5:55 Speaker 2: Tell me something? Meaning fall?

5:59 Speaker 5: No out there your fan.

6:03 Speaker 2: Will is stole it?

6:04 Speaker 5: Turn really lost?

6:08 Speaker 2: Man?

6:10 Speaker 1: Don't you go running away? Don't you know what you ma fan? Don't you know you running in hard?

6:22 Speaker 5: Don't you don't?

6:41 Speaker 1: Don't you go running away?

6:44 Speaker 5: Don't you know you know what you mad fan?

6:48 Speaker 1: Don't you know you know you running hard?

6:52 Speaker 5: Don't you know?

6:53 Speaker 8: Don't you don't tell?

6:57 Speaker 5: Don't you don't?

7:29 Speaker 4: All right? Grim Rock live in studio with us. We're going to talk to Grimrock in just a moment, and uh, this is this is really cool. It's wonderful to have Mark. And we'll talk all about tonight. We'll talk all about tonight. He's going to be playing a big show tonight at the Spot in Nashua. But right now, here's another studio track from Grimrock. This is called Abyss.

7:53 Speaker 8: It's a dark.

7:57 Speaker 9: Exists you thought of bills, where my shot soul sills, my chaotic mind can and a lot of blss.

8:55 Speaker 8: Some women in name image inflicting time and I fam my man wrong well Robil.

9:35 Speaker 2: You bo.

10:03 Speaker 8: Nothing is right?

10:07 Speaker 5: The weather t fol is five, shot at a dog about.

10:14 Speaker 8: My life, controlling me, refusing to save me? Freeze, Why can high job?

11:09 Speaker 3: Where am shot?

11:27 Speaker 2: Shot?

11:46 Speaker 4: That is Abyss and that is grim Rock and grim Rock is here with us a live in studio today on Matt connorton Unleash. Hello, grim Hey, how are you good? Good? You sound great. It's wonderful to finally meet you. So you've been How when was the first time you were on the show? I mean it was a few years ago, right, it was a couple of years ago. Yeah, it had to be at least a few because I remember, I'm pretty sure the first time we played don't You, which was the first single of yours that we ever played on the show, we were still at the old because we haven't always been in this studio.

12:15 Speaker 4: We used to be down on Elm Street and we moved here maybe two and a half years ago. So yeah, so it's been a while. It's been a while. How many times have you been? Are you in the five timers club?

12:25 Speaker 2: Now?

12:25 Speaker 5: No, this will be four with me being here live.

12:28 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, doesn't that count as two for him? Why?

12:32 Speaker 10: What do you mean because he traveled over two thousand miles?

12:34 Speaker 4: Oh, two thousand miles.

12:37 Speaker 5: I don't have any miles. I don't think it's too It was like six hundred.

12:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it might be a little bit. Yeah, so you're from Pennsylvania. By the way, it's been a I don't know if you know, this has been a very Pennsylvania show today because it just going and this this was not planned. It just worked out this way. The guess we had in the first hour Robin Ross is also in Pennsylvania, Rob and Ross and the mellowdnes So it is just funny how that worked out. But so you're on tour, where did you play last night? Or tonight?

13:06 Speaker 5: The first night of the tonight, he's the first night. I actually stopped at the spot just to see the place and make the owner and pass some stuff out and just you know, try to track people.

13:16 Speaker 4: Tonight, you know, excellent, excellent, Yeah, Jenny and I haven't been there yet, so this will be our first time there. We Yeah, we had Mike McDowell, the owner, also known as the Healer. I don't did he introduce himself to you that way?

13:28 Speaker 5: Uh No, Actually, I just I caught him behind the you know, the boar.

13:33 Speaker 4: Okay, so I was half kid. I don't think he actually introduces himself as the Healer. But uh, but that is a moniker that he hasked. No, but he's he's a great guy. So he was on the show back before he had even opened. He was talking about it, and uh, I thought it was very positive that because it's not I don't know what. I'm curious, like what it's like in your area as far as this goes. But in this area, it's really hard to find all ages shows and and venues that will have all ages events. There just aren't many, you know, because you know, if you go out to a club or a bar, it's it's usually either eighteen plus or twenty one plus.

14:08 Speaker 4: It's hard to find all ages venues anywhere.

14:12 Speaker 8: You know.

14:12 Speaker 4: We've had We've had some over the years, and there might be some in the area that I don't know about. But there's you know, there are few and far between, you know, or there's always promoters to who will And I did some of this back in the day. You know, you throw a show at an elkslodge or something and then it's all ages. You let people in because you're not serving alcohol. But but I think it's really cool that you're playing an all ages show at the spot, And uh, that's a that's a really such a service to the community what they're doing by providing an all ages of venue for for people.

14:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a good thing. You know, back home, there's not very much of that either, you know really Yeah. Yeah, it's it's either bring your own bottle kind of club or you know, it's an eighteen plus you know. Ok, that's pretty cool.

14:54 Speaker 4: Yeah. Have you been able to play all ages shows before?

14:57 Speaker 2: Yeah?

14:58 Speaker 4: Like, okay, so there are there are opportunities where you live, there's just probably not many. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's good. That's good. Now do you know anything the band you're opening for, the Melted Chapsticks, Do you know anything about them?

15:11 Speaker 5: I absolutely don't. I checked. When I found out who it was, I went and listened to some of their music so I could see what they sounded like. Yeah, and uh, you know, I talked to his name Mike, Mike McDowell. No spot, no, no, he goes by King Chapstick or something on Instagram.

15:28 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Jenny and I don't actually know them, believe it or not, but.

15:31 Speaker 5: I was talking. I was talking to him back and forth here and there. So yeah, gett a feel for everything. Okay, it sounds like it's gonna be really cool, you know.

15:39 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, outstanding. And then now where do you go after tonight? Where's your next stop.

15:46 Speaker 5: After we Well, we'll stay here tonight, we'll leave tomorrow and then I'll be in near Cleveland, Ohio will be my next one.

15:51 Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, how far are you going with this store?

15:54 Speaker 1: Like?

15:54 Speaker 4: How far? Where are you going?

15:56 Speaker 8: Uh?

15:56 Speaker 5: This is the Furthest. Okay, this is absolutely the Furthest. Yeah, you know what I mean. All of the other stuff's like three four hours tops, you know.

16:03 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah for now. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's not like gas is expensive or anything, right.

16:10 Speaker 5: You know, the way you know you play music and stuff, you know, it's it's you got a lost leader at the very beginning.

16:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that is very true. That is very true. You know, even before gas prices went went way up like they have. There there's been many you know, there's been national touring acts that have had to, uh really kind of cut down on the touring just because it's so cost prohibitive these days with with the inflation and everything.

16:33 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but and then you get the national touring acts, so it charged so much money, you know, to even go see him. I mean, I get I get that they're they're the you know, big name bands and stuff like that.

16:45 Speaker 4: Yeah.

16:45 Speaker 5: Wow, some of the prices man, oh yeah, ridiculous.

16:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible. Now when you play tonight, So is it just you?

16:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just gonna be a mean And how does that work?

16:54 Speaker 4: So for our listeners who are not familiar with you, I know we've talked about it when you've been on the show, but I mean, how how does does that work when you're you know, because obviously you know your sound is sounds like a full band on the studio albums, So what do you do to kind of replicate that live or how do you approach that?

17:10 Speaker 5: So basically, I do the recording of the tracks at the house, with the exception of cast a Shadow, I did that in the studio studio, okay, But I play my own instruments, all of them.

17:19 Speaker 4: Yeah.

17:19 Speaker 5: And so in the very end when I go to get the when the track's finished and I need a backing track, then I just get rid of like all the guitars, all of them, and all the vocals except for maybe a few backup vocals depending on the track itself, okay. And then when I go to play it live, I play it off tablet.

17:36 Speaker 4: Oh gotcha, Yeah, gotcha.

17:38 Speaker 5: So it's still there, you know, but it's just missing all this the main stuff. That way, you can hear when I make mistakes or ad lib or something's a little bit different with the song, you can hear that it's actually me playing against that track. It's not, you know, I'm not live sinking anything.

17:53 Speaker 4: Right, That makes sense?

17:54 Speaker 10: Now?

17:54 Speaker 4: Does anything ever go wrong with that?

17:56 Speaker 5: My first gig, man, I'll tell you what I think I probably told you on so and you know, mister Phil, he was a great guy for the whole thing was the Green Beacon Gallery, Believe it or not. Okay, I played there a bunch ever since. Yeah, my first gig, you know, I was at home and I had my setup and I was like, yes, this stuff works, I'm great.

18:13 Speaker 4: Yeah.

18:13 Speaker 5: Well I took a bunch of stuff with me that worked at home, and it didn't work with the system. Oh no, Oh it was a mess. But I got through it, you know, and he was very patient with me and it was really cool. Well, like I said, I've been back lots of times at that place.

18:28 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. How long are you playing for tonight? How long have a set to you have?

18:35 Speaker 5: It depends there was a third band on there. I think they something happened that they're not there now. Oh okay, and I know there's another person going to do an act in between. Oh really, so I think originally it could have I'm going to guess forty minutes.

18:50 Speaker 4: Okay. So yeah, is that kind of what you're used to? I mean, like, have you ever had to play like a really long set?

18:57 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I played shows that were two hours?

18:59 Speaker 4: No.

19:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, everything in the book, man, I was like one through. I was like trying to remember stuff. By the end, I'm like, maybe i'll play something again, you know, like just to bring it back, you know, rough play two ours shows a couple of different times. Oh okay, that's long.

19:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I want to talk about your sound because I describe it, you know, I always talk about it on the show before we play something of yours, that you've got kind of a it's kind of a low five garage rock sound. That's how I describe it. I mean, that is that how you describe it to people who haven't heard you yet if they're curious about what to expect.

19:30 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, I always say garage rock, and I don't know if people really know what that is, you know, but you know, I'll say it, or I'll say alternative rock, you know what I mean, because that alternative rock could be anything from mellow to grungey to you know, that raw sound or whatever. You know. Yeah, but yeah, so I just either those two words. You know, it depends on what I'm talking to. If it's a musician, I'm like, hey, it's garage rock, you know. If it's a regular person, I'm like, no, it's it's all rock, you know.

19:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean in the nineties, alt rock really kind of became a catch all term for anything that well, you know, like sort of in the post in the post hair metal period, all rock, I feel like, became a catch all for anything that wasn't hair metal. Absolutely, and then eventually it just became everything because you know everything was alt rock.

20:12 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and post your Children collect a Soul together with Nirvana. Yeah, that's all alternative rock.

20:18 Speaker 4: Right right right. So for those for those who have not seen you again, if you're only listening to the audio version of the show, I said, yes, you check the video and you know they'll do lots of pictures and stuff. But so you've got the whole, You've got your outfit, you've got your face paint. How long does it take to put all that together?

20:38 Speaker 5: That's that's my every person, every makeup artist's dream right here. My wife does it. Yeah, and it takes about, I don't know, twenty minutes.

20:47 Speaker 4: Oh that's it.

20:48 Speaker 5: I'm around there.

20:48 Speaker 4: Oh I'm not bad.

20:49 Speaker 5: Like if I did it, it would look terrible when I'd be done in five minutes and yeah, it'd be a mess. You No, she she she does it for me every time. Iday. Oh okay, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, she does it everything for me. Like with this, it's it's I'm grateful, you know.

21:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Oh that's excellent. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be like if I had to do that, I wouldn't be able to do it myself either.

21:09 Speaker 5: Oh no, it looks terrible if it looked like if I was just like four and just took a crayon on a piece of paper, or oh yeah, it's bad.

21:17 Speaker 4: I can't draw so like anytime, Like you know, when I used to dress up for Halloween. If my favorite band is Kiss, But if I were dressing up as a Kiss member, somebody would have to do my makeup for me. I literally could not. I just wouldn't have a clue to how to even do any of that myself. So yeah, it would it would be a mess. Now have you ever I know I've asked you this before, but again for people who are just learning about you, have you ever played a show without the makeup?

21:42 Speaker 5: I do from time to time. It just depends on what it is. Yeah, you know what I mean. If it's like an open mic or something somewhere, it's only going to be a couple of tracks or something. I probably I don't paint up. I probably should, you know, I think I've said that before. I probably should just to go do it, right, But the amount of time it takes to do that, by the time you get up there and you wait and you get your two three tracks or whatever, it's I just usually just got myself, you know, and people have no idea who I am because I look like everybody else at that point.

22:10 Speaker 4: Right, So, is there is there like a transformative thing that happens when you put the makeup on? You know, I've I've heard like Gene Simmons describe, you know, when when he puts the makeup on and he becomes the demon. It's like a completely different mindset, Like does that happen for you anything like that?

22:25 Speaker 5: Well, you know on stage, yeah, I mean you got to take on what you look like, you know, just it's it's a completely different atmosphere and you're in front of all these people and you have to you know, your job is to entertain them. You know, whether you're musician, you're like, oh my art is my art? That your your job is to entertain the people that they are there. Yeah, that's four first and foremost. So you got to give them something so that, you know, be painted up like us and give them a show, you know, in along the lines with that, you know, that's that's really what you know, is the transformative part you know what I mean.

23:00 Speaker 4: We have some people in the chat room. Let's see. Oh we have some, Yeah, we have some. Vincent Julian Johnson is that someone you know?

23:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Vinnie. Oh yeah, yeah, Vinny's awesome.

23:11 Speaker 4: Thank him, yep, he says, Oh, he posted a bunch of things in here. He said, let's go grimmer Man. Uh Grim, Rock, I'm I'm tuning in, brother, let's go. Let's see. Oh. Lacey, our friend, Lacey who I am, says I have a great show. Thank you, Lacey. If you're still listening, Rock and Robin says, thanks so much for having me on today. Oh yeah, that was Robin, Robin Ross. We had on in the first hour. Another Pennsylvanian. Thank you us. Yep, thank you Robin for joining us. Melvin Crockett Junior says, my guy Grim.

23:47 Speaker 5: That is the guy that did the video for Abyss.

23:50 Speaker 4: Oh, no kidding, okay, Oh excellent, excellent.

23:53 Speaker 5: He did a fantastic job on that video.

23:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Vincent says, that's my guy. I love the guitar riff. Go Grim. Uh, let's see. Vincent also said, damn Grim, I see you, brother. I can't wait to do a feature with a hip hop twist. Ah, what does that mean? Interesting?

24:12 Speaker 5: So he's he's an artist. He does you know, hip hop and rap and stuff like that.

24:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

24:17 Speaker 5: I mean, and we've talked about a collaboration. So okay, So it's you know that the things that I do he doesn't usually do, and the things he does I don't usually do. So it's going to be kind of kind of really unique, Yeah, for both of us to get together to do something. But oh yeah, we're going to do something. I don't know what yet. Yeah, but we're we're gonna figure something out.

24:34 Speaker 4: Oh excellent. Yeah. Yeah. He also said in the chat, a grim tell them to give you a boy a shout out for grind Squad music group.

24:41 Speaker 5: That's his that's his group.

24:42 Speaker 4: Oh excellent. Okay, okay, well, very good, very good. I wonder if that's who If somebody was trying to call the studio line, I wonder if that's who was calling

24:54 Speaker 4: eight seven eight? Is that a familiar aera code? I don't know what that was, Okay, yeah, no idea that might have just might have been spamed.

25:00 Speaker 5: Who knows your extended car warrants? You want to renew it?

25:04 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I get a lot of those, So are people surprised at at shows? If someone's there at a show, Like if people who go to the spot tonight who are not familiar with you haven't heard your music yet, do you expect that they will be surprised when because your your image with the paint? I mean, the first thing, I'm sure you've heard this, and I probably even said this to you, The first thing I think of is King Diamond when I see the paint. But you're you're not that right, so you know you're not gonna get up there and be like you know, it's it's like we talked about, it's garage rock.

25:36 Speaker 4: So there's that cool, which I think is cool, that that contrast between what what you appear like visually and what comes out. But I mean, do you run into that a lot where people are just like, oh, just really taking aback?

25:48 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah I get that, And you know it's okay because I like that element of surprised.

25:53 Speaker 4: You know, well, I was gonna say it must be fun, Oh it is, yeah. Yeah.

25:56 Speaker 5: You know I'll play some play a couple of wrists or whatever, you know, don't warm up, might play something a little heavier, you know what I mean then yeah, I go into my first track, my first couple of tracks, I do play them a little heavier than you know what it's recorded, but then you know, I'm in and out of things, you know what I mean. So when you get to that part, everybody's like like.

26:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's cool.

26:15 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's It's like I said, I've never had really any any negativity you know with it. Yeah, you know, dooring a live thing. Yeah, I mean I'm sure if I got bigger, you know, somebody be upset about it, you know, like you don't look.

26:26 Speaker 4: Like that, right right, you know whatever, Hey, uh no, I think that's cool. Like I said, I think that that that contrast is really cool. Maybe, but yeah maybe, like if you showed up to an open mic with that, you might get you might get some some puzzlement from uh.

26:45 Speaker 5: Especially if I showed up with that acoustic with that, you know, right right, I'm playing mellow just like I did there, you know.

26:53 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, no doubt when like, what was the idea, what was the genesis behind this, behind the image of grim Rock, but actually visually.

27:03 Speaker 5: It actually was a Halloween costume. Yeah, and she knows this. I tell her story all the time, and she's here to severify this whole thing. So it was actually a work costing party. We actually met at work, and you know it's probably not as you know, we met at work.

27:18 Speaker 4: And statistically that's very common.

27:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, so here we are a bunch of years later. Anyway, we had this work party and went together and I used to be I've said it before. You know, I'm fourteen years sober now, but I've used to be a heavy drinker before. And so I went to this party. I was already tanked up and I went with her looking like this, and I was running behind people. You know, I didn't even talk. It just it just made people upset, you know, like the whole thing, like, oh, you know he's but you know, from there, I was like, I am going to use this one day, you know what I mean.

27:46 Speaker 5: I had no idea what I was going to do. And I used it for a couple of different calloweens. Yeah, and it modified, you know, I modified it, you know, a couple of different times to this gentlemanly grim yeah kind of look yeah, you know versus the halloweenish one, you know what I mean. Okay, she'll tell you.

28:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's kind of evolved.

28:03 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's definitely evolved. Yeah.

28:05 Speaker 4: Oh very cool. You said fourteen years sober?

28:07 Speaker 5: Fourteen years sober for you? Good for you.

28:09 Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever talked about that.

28:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think we have.

28:13 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean is that something you talk about openly?

28:16 Speaker 5: Or oh yeah?

28:17 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

28:19 Speaker 2: How did you?

28:19 Speaker 4: How did you stop when you stopped?

28:21 Speaker 5: Oh well, that's that's an interesting story itself. Is it that one will have to talk about offline?

28:27 Speaker 4: Oh? Really? Okay?

28:28 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, it's really it's really an interesting, interesting story. And you know, yeah, some people know it, and I don't care that people really know it, know it? Yeah, just that you know we're work at now.

28:41 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean? Gotcha? Gotcha understood? Understood? Yeah, No, good for you? Though. How do you like, how do you stay? I mean, if you can answer this, like, what's what's your biggest motivation to stay on the path that you are? As far as that and not, uh, you.

28:58 Speaker 5: Know, it's it's been so long that it's doesn't even really bother me or me anymore. That's good, that's the thing.

29:03 Speaker 9: You know.

29:03 Speaker 5: But I've heard people, you know, in in some of the meeting rooms and whatever. Say, oh, I was thirty years and fell off. You know. Yeah, that kind of bothers me, you know what I mean, thinking that, you know, thinking that that may be a possibility. But you know, I the way things are really, you know, I just don't I don't see that happening.

29:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, you know, I mean yeah, I mean it's well, I mean, everyone's different, and but it sounds like you, you know, mentally obviously you don't miss it, and so it sounds like you're probably just you know, I mean again, everyone's different. You know, some people once they're done with it, they're done with it and that's it, which is what it sounds like. You know, it sounds like is your situation. But yeah, you do hear people say, you know, I struggle with it, you know, decades every day.

29:47 Speaker 4: It's hard, you know. But but but it sounds like, but everyone's brain is wired differently, you know what I mean. And it sounds like you're fortunately, you know, you just sounds like you don't even like, don't even think about it, right, it's just in your past.

30:01 Speaker 5: And yeah, you know it's crazy because you know I used to be a really bad drinker. I mean, it really was, you know, and it became really problematic, you know, and I wasn't willing to see it at the time. Yeah, but it's funny because you know, my takedown was you know, I had a friend that I hung out with that we got loaded up and we played music. So when we went and played out and things like that, Yeah, you know, it was bar music, you know what I mean. And it was crazy as I can play all these places now and not even think about it.

30:32 Speaker 4: That's good.

30:33 Speaker 8: You know.

30:33 Speaker 5: I can watch all these people fall over and hit their head and stuff, you know, coming out the door or whatever, and I just laugh at him or whatever. But no, really, you know, it just doesn't bother me anymore.

30:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

30:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, good for you. You know, you have to unwire what you had in there, hardwired. I guess there's something I don't know.

30:51 Speaker 4: I know a bit about it, but it's not a problem that I've ever had. But I work as a hypnotherapist and I help people too, mostly with an addiction that I help people to quit oking. But but but it's interesting. It's it's one of the things that is similar is if you talk to do you smoke no good good good for you. Yeah, if you talk to smokers, you know, it's kind of a similar thing where some smokers will tell you or or ex smokers will tell you, yeah, I just I I quit and that was it, and I I just I don't miss it, and I feel so much better.

31:25 Speaker 4: And but there's there's some people who will tell you. And this was kind of my mother's excuse why she went back to it. You know, she would talk about, how, oh I I it's it's a daily struggle for me. Every day I have to resist the urge to smoke a cigarette, which she did for a few years. She did resist, and then eventually she went back to it. But but so much of that too with with cigarettes. The psychological addiction is so much more powerful than the physical addiction, than the chemical addiction.

31:56 Speaker 4: And it's it's a you know, because people think, oh, y know, once the nicotine is in you, once you've been addicted to it, and those brain receptors are active and expecting it, that it's just that you're just stuck with that forever, and it's not true. It's but it's it's the psychological addiction, you know, right, right, but but it sounds like it was kind of like that with you with alcohol and then so once you were done with it, you were just done with it.

32:20 Speaker 5: And yeah, life is better without it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

32:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, Eleanor is in the Facebook live chat Eleanor Luna of course we love Eleanor from New Hampshire Underground and she says, we can't wait to see you tonight, grim Rock and thank you Matt Connerton, thank you Eleanor. Yeah. Yeah, we haven't seen Eleanor in in a while. Actually, Eleanor and Andre, so that'll be great. Yeah, and of course, uh that I believe it's if I remember correctly, it's through Eleanor. That's how we met Mike McDowell from the spot. So because I know they do a lot of work together.

32:53 Speaker 4: New Hampshire Underground another great great venue in uh in Nashua. We should play I think we shoul play a song I was thinking about because you mentioned cast a Shadow. We should give that a spin and then we'll come back and talk some more. But tell us about that, tell us about the video too. The video for Abyss for Caster Shadow was a cast Shadow? Was that the one that that the video?

33:16 Speaker 5: No Melvin Crockett did the video for abyss.

33:18 Speaker 4: Oh for abyss Oh. Okay, well tell tell us about cast oh. I remember why cast a Shadow came up because you were talking about recording that differently than right.

33:26 Speaker 5: That was actually Rhythm Mouse Studios. I didn't record any of it at the house.

33:29 Speaker 4: Gotcha, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, what was that like, because you obviously this was a change in process for you recording this track. Yeah.

33:38 Speaker 5: So I've been in the studios before, you know, so I knew the process generally. Yeah, it's been so long since I've been in there, you know, and working by yourself all the time pretty much, you know, pushing plays like hey, you know, look at her and be like, hey, what's this sound like? Well it sounds good. Maybe it does, maybe she doesn't. I don't know. YEA honestly telling me, you know, just to make me happier, not to be honest, but uh, but to go into the studio and actually have somebody there it says, hey, do this again, Hey, try this, Hey, let's try this again.

34:09 Speaker 5: You know, that extra little bit of guidance. You know, I really appreciate it from mister Bob, you know what I mean? He uh, he was. He was fantastic trying to put it all together, you know, and we talked a lot through it, you know, because I think I was the heaviest artist he's actually recorded at this point.

34:24 Speaker 4: Okay, oh wow, Well, like what kind of stuff was he used to, uh, recording like this? More like singer songwriters?

34:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. You know, there's a guy that's there like all the time. His name is Alli Bravery, and his stuff is really cool, it really is, but it's it's light compared to, you know, my stuff. To the recording process, I'm sure it's a lot different.

34:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So have you only done the one song with.

34:45 Speaker 5: Him at this point? Yeah, I was. I actually had some time schedule with them, but we had some things. There was a bunch of things that happened at the beginning of the year. Yeah, And of course, you know, it goes everything gets delayed and delayed, and then now I'm running back and be like, Okay, after I do these shows, I'm gonna go back into the studio, you know kind of thing, and yeah, I'm opening and get the rest of this done.

35:04 Speaker 8: Yeah.

35:05 Speaker 5: It took it took forever to do do g R five. Yeah, Yeah, there's actually two separate sets of mixes for that for a lot of those tracks.

35:12 Speaker 4: Really.

35:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, the original mix for You Belong you see, I think is the one you might have played, and I think don't use it. The one you play is the original mix work. And those mixes were done at the house before Matt Kirshner got him, before I got picked up by Golden Robot Records. So oh, I already had him released through Districtated, you know, over Spotify and everything else.

35:33 Speaker 4: Yeah.

35:33 Speaker 5: So when I got picked up from Golden rot Records and you know, got involved with Matt Kirshner and stuff, I ended up sending everything to him. Yeah, he remixed them all. And that's the mixes that are on the g R five for Golden Robot Records.

35:47 Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha, Okay, I did not realize that. Interesting. All right, Well, let's give this suspend. This is cast a Shadow. If you're just joining us, grim Rock is here with us in the studio. He's going to be playing tonight at the spot in nashaua uh so, uh but here it is. This is Castle Shadow and this is Grimrock.

36:20 Speaker 11: Web Strey Mountains were stand our flood.

36:36 Speaker 2: And that Mary.

36:38 Speaker 3: I'm told man, they'll be playing.

36:42 Speaker 2: Sometimes that we're liveing away the cron move.

36:54 Speaker 3: I'm just say some of me.

36:58 Speaker 2: The castle sad soald, it's just so.

37:23 Speaker 11: Movie h.

38:08 Speaker 2: Brownstone and brains in the face and the mounta in on the stars stone, the shadow me.

38:24 Speaker 3: There's no rain.

38:26 Speaker 2: I'm not fine. It's just my pain. It's some kind you o. The PRTs, the phone a thing away, not this taste f name it cast a shadow. It's parts in sound of name it cast a saddle? What this taste?

39:27 Speaker 4: Shadow that has cast a shadow? By grim Rock and grim Rock is here with us live in studio. He's going to be playing tonight at the Spot in Nashua, opening up for the Melted Chapsticks and show starts at eight pm. Ten dollars admission. It is all ages, which is very cool and we're excited about that. Oh I should mentioned the name of the show is Demons at the Disco Live alt rock, lamb and funk music, mocktail, Zankava, late night bites, dance floor, fun and door prizes. Very cool. So the Melted chap Six and grim Rock tonight again starts at eight o'clock.

40:10 Speaker 4: If you are listening live on Saturday, of course May thirtieth, eight o'clock. It is an all ages show, which is uh which is extremely cool. So and grim Rock is here with us in studio for the first time. So we've we've talked, we've had you on the phone many times, but it's great to finally meet you. And again I will just remind you if you are listening to the audio version of the show, please check out the video we're streaming right now on Facebook and YouTube, and you know, you can always find it later.

40:36 Speaker 4: But grim is in all of his uh is this Is this what you've worn like since the beginning of developing this image or has that changed over over time?

40:47 Speaker 5: That's changed?

40:48 Speaker 4: Yeah?

40:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that's more modified now than it was. You know, I had when I first did it as the Halloween costume. I got like a youth suited like a Salvation army and yeah, we spray painted it and did all kind of crazy stuff with it to make it, you know, ghostly for costume, you know. But the face paint it was pretty much the same. It was white, but the little the circles were little and I had a lot more stitches, you know, a lot more stitches on my mouth, you know, Okay, and a lot of that got modified, you know.

41:16 Speaker 5: Now it's just the poor and the bigger eyes, you know. But it's the same premise, Like if you look at the first picture, you look at this name, like, oh yeah, that's the same guy. It's just looks newer picture than the other one, you know. But of course now I'm just in the straight black.

41:29 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm to ask you this is from a practical standpoint. Do you get hot when you're on stage wearing that?

41:36 Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, And that's why I have two different sets of makeup for the for stuff.

41:41 Speaker 8: You know.

41:41 Speaker 5: I think we talked about this before too. I gotta thank Gene Simmons. You talk about Gene Simmons. I gotta thank Gene Simmons because I found a video of him making up his daughter and his signature face thing, and he had let people know what the makeup was, and it's actually like a clown white makeup, so it's a different type of makeup. And I was wondering how, you know, he got up there because when I was wearing this, because this stuff's a temporary one, you know what I mean. I'll put the heavier one on the night because I'll be sweating, you know and stuff.

42:14 Speaker 5: Yeah, but uh, I was wondering how the heck they did that, you know what I mean up there playing, you know, and you can you can see them like they're damp, but nothing's really running. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, they do that, you know. But I saw that video and I ended up ordering Maren's the company. I ended up ordering a tub of this stuff. I was like, well, if this thing works, and I got a tub of it now, and uh yeah, that's what I used for the base cut. And let me tell you this stuff, it stands up.

42:38 Speaker 5: But I did know I did do something though. I left the black the regular because as I as I get warmed up and starts sweating and it starts to run, it started it looks kind of cool, you know, because it kind of alters my image through the night, you know. Oh okay, so I didn't order the other paint to make it so it stays. I thought it was kind of cool to it because I found that out at that metal fest last year in the middle of July. You know, the white was I mean, it was just stuck there and other stuff was just running off me.

43:04 Speaker 7: You know.

43:05 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, that's kind of cool. I wonder though, do you ever have a Have you ever been tempted to just not do the makeup?

43:13 Speaker 9: I have?

43:13 Speaker 5: But you know, it's just my image. Yeah, you know what I mean, especially when I play a wall set and I'm gonna have that, I'm gonna be plugged in right right, you know?

43:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that makes sense, that makes sense. But yeah, I can imagine it's tempting on a hot day to just I don't know, now, do you do you get an opportunity to play with a lot of different uh, because what you're doing is unique enough where I would imagine as far as playing shows, you fit in kind of with uh, Like, you don't necessarily fit in anywhere perfectly, right, because while you're doing is unique. But at the same time, sometimes that can be an advantage where you actually, like not fitting in helps you fit in more places, if that makes sense?

43:56 Speaker 5: It does?

43:57 Speaker 4: I mean, have you found that, like, are there are there other artists in your area back in Pennsylvania who you play a lot of shows with because you just fit well with them, or yeah, there's.

44:06 Speaker 5: A few of them that I played with, you know, consistently, And then you know, I get to I get to play all kinds of different places with all kinds of different bands. Yeah, and you know, there was some you know that I got in there and like I played at the Rock Room in Pittsburgh. I love that place. The bands that were in there were ultra heavy, and I sounded like air supply compared to them, you know. But then I had other places I went to and I was the heaviest of everybody there, you know what I mean.

44:33 Speaker 5: Or you know, the we had a guy we played with. His name is you know, I don't know if you talk to him Silicon Kong. His stuff is so different that his stuff's different and my stuff's heavier. And then we had like Choshack you might. I don't know if you talked to them either. Their stuff's like in between everything. Their stuff's gotten progressively heavier though.

44:53 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:53 Speaker 5: And so I mean it's just, you know, Perishabules are like more punky kind of you know. So I kind of fit in with a lot of different bands, you know what I mean. Yeah, I can get plugged into anything, like you're just playing whatever.

45:05 Speaker 4: But that makes sense, that makes sense. Oh, we have Jenny the the Trolls, have shown up. Yeah, I'm not gonna read their comments, but I don't I don't mind the trolls though. I think it's funny. We have, Uh, how do you even say that, Blacker REGI, I don't know how to say that. Who else?

45:26 Speaker 8: We have?

45:26 Speaker 4: Mister Taco sixty six. We know that name. We know, we know mister Taco. And Ben Gleck is in there. That's interesting, Yeah, we have. They usually show up. So I do a podcast called Tough Bumps about wrestling on Sundays, and that's where we usually see some of these people. But they're they're they're they're aligned with a podcaster from New York City who has been going around saying that my show is canceled, you know, the show that I'm literally sitting here doing right now. Oh yeah, he tells people, but he does that like every six months or so.

45:59 Speaker 4: He'll tell any one who will listen that I'm not on the air anymore. Right in the WMNH parted ways with me, and you know, meanwhile, I've been here for over nine years and uh.

46:07 Speaker 5: Well since the runner, they can know that I actually sponsored a wrestler for a while. You did, yeah, oh yeah, talk about that. So a guy from New York. Actually name was Jay Flyer, and he was an amateur wrestler, you know what I mean. It was running through like pcw A and and all the those kind of leagues. And I actually sponsored him a while. Actually the theme song for him and everything.

46:28 Speaker 4: Wow.

46:29 Speaker 5: And one of the shows I actually got to go to was a Hamburg PA and we went out there and I actually got to get in the ring with oh man name just slip my. He was a referee, a big name referee.

46:47 Speaker 4: Earl oh Earl Hebner.

46:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I actually got to get I guys stand in the ring with him and hold the Intercontinental thing in my gear. I went like this and uh stuff and you know, and so that was pretty cool, you know that that happened.

46:59 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. Are you? Are you a wrestling fan just generally or you know, I like.

47:07 Speaker 5: The old school wrestling, you know what I mean. I don't really get to I don't really watch much TV as it is, you know what I mean. Yeah, so if something's on, you know, I'll watch it, but you know, I don't go out of my way to actually watch it, you know.

47:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, just as well. Too much isn't good for you.

47:22 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's just always bad news on a TV.

47:27 Speaker 8: You know.

47:27 Speaker 5: At least at the end of the newscast they used to do like, oh, we found a rescued a puppy and it was a happy story. Right. They don't even do that anymore. Next hour we have doom.

47:36 Speaker 8: You know.

47:38 Speaker 4: Well, I think maybe we should plan another studio track. I'm gonna find uh. I want to make sure I'm playing the right mixes, though, so let me let me find Oh.

47:48 Speaker 5: You're fine with that. I was just like, yeah, because it was an interesting facet to that jure if I've took forever to put together.

47:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I think I found Oh what is this stone?

48:00 Speaker 5: That's not even that's not even that's a demo track?

48:02 Speaker 4: Oh okay, because I didn't recognize the title. That's why I was wondering. Yeah, let's see. Oh is this it? What is this hashtag? M Oh, that's a that's what what is this hashtag? Nms? The Grim tracks?

48:18 Speaker 5: Oh, that's the podcast.

48:20 Speaker 4: Oh is that a podcast that you do?

48:22 Speaker 2: Uh?

48:22 Speaker 5: No, Actually it is two guys as the one guy in the UK and one guy in Canada, and they do like an independent music podcast.

48:28 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, oh yeah, excellent. Umm, yeah, I'm having trouble just finding good.

48:37 Speaker 5: City has a new mix.

48:39 Speaker 4: What is it city?

48:40 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's City twenty twenty four mix or whatever. It's not new, but it's new or oh.

48:46 Speaker 4: That would be.

48:47 Speaker 5: It's probably something we haven't heard. Yeah, it's actually out the R five VP. Oh I mean uh Grimwork Radio EP.

48:54 Speaker 4: Oh I found it? Yeah yeah, oh cool. Yeah, let's give this. Yeah, I haven't heard this. Let's give this s spend if you're just joining us, we do have grim Rock here with us, live in studio. He's on tour. He's gonna be playing tonight in Nashua at the Spot. But I have not heard this. Let's give this a spin. This is grim Rock City, the twenty twenty four version. Here, it is.

49:29 Speaker 3: Just na road to Ben.

49:40 Speaker 7: I'm going down now.

49:52 Speaker 2: Waiting now you come around.

50:27 Speaker 10: Not kill me.

50:31 Speaker 3: Everything now, Just why.

50:39 Speaker 2: You can't say how pa.

50:45 Speaker 10: Roll with the traffic.

50:49 Speaker 2: Let's just not enough to laugh the bustle on the page.

51:05 Speaker 4: Yes, well that is cool. That is City, the twenty twenty four version. That is Grimrock and he is here with us live in studio. He's going to be playing tonight at the spot in Nashua. Really looking forward to that along with Melted Chapsticks and now it's gonna be very cool. Show is at eight pm, ten dollars cover, but it is all ages, no alcohol, Demons at the Disco. That is the name of the show tonight. I like that name. That'd be a good name for a band, Demons at the Disco. Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, so yeah, that'll be cool.

52:56 Speaker 4: Oh so you were saying while we were off air, while we were playing that song, that the video because I really liked the video for that, because I love images of city skylines and all that always have, especially at night, And you said that was made by Lewis. Is a Tivvy or tivy?

53:10 Speaker 5: It's tvvy.

53:10 Speaker 4: It is Tivvy. He was on the show with us like maybe three or four years ago. It was definitely when we were at the old studio. Of course, he's in the UK, so it was remote, right, But you were saying, he's deployed right now. Yeah, he's actually deployed right now, so in in Poland. You said, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, I remember him talking about that, that he was in the military. But also just such a such a good musician too. Oh yeah, really really like his stuff and he was he was great to talk to. Now, as far as as far as studio releases, what's next for you?

53:40 Speaker 4: Because you're always writing, right You're it seems like you're always writing and recording.

53:43 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I got stuff. Fuck out kind of things I have, like I couldn't say him a like twenty five starter tracks or something, Oh my god, fished through. Yeah, and you know, I'm trying to put like a good good list together for this Cast of Shadow album, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's actually gonna be a full while, Okay, any end and I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna go out on a limb. You know, I wanted d R five to be ten or twelve tracks, but I think this is gonna be the one that's gonna be ten or twelve tracks.

54:10 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I got I got enough starters that I can I can just go back and and look through and you know, shape a sound for the album, you know what I mean?

54:19 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, outstanding? Well, so, uh oh, time is short? Where should people go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?

54:30 Speaker 5: I would go to grim rockandroll dot com I'll spell it out, rock and roll, A and y Grim rock and Roll, get dot com you go everywhere from there, okay, and if you do the AT symbol Grim rock and Roll, I'll spell it out. You'd find me everywhere that way on social media's and YouTube.

54:46 Speaker 4: All right, outstanding, outstanding. So again just to remind everybody tonight eight pm at if you are listening live on Saturday, of course May thirtieth, Grim Rock opening for the Melted Chap six at the Spot. It is in Nashua, New Hampshire. It is all ages ten dollars cover and please come say hello. Of course we'll be there. Jenny and I will be there. Sounds like Eleanor will be there, so that's cool. Hopefully Andrea is there too, and no, I'm sure it'll be a great and like I said, it'll be our first time there too, so it'll be it'll be wonderful to finally see what what they've done with the place and what they're doing.

55:20 Speaker 5: So I'm excited. Look, it looks super really excited about the menu too.

55:24 Speaker 10: Oh really yeah, yeah, I like all kinds are really cool coffees and seasons.

55:28 Speaker 5: Oh okay, I'm excited.

55:29 Speaker 4: About that oh good, very very good, excellent.

55:32 Speaker 10: Always check out the Mosaic Are Collective. The next opening is on June thirteenth, the Human Canvas from five to seven pm, and that's actually going to be at our new location on Chessnut Street. We are expanding the gallery. We're really excited about this, so definitely come on down and check it out. And as usual, you can always keep up with my good troubles at Gencoffee dot com.

55:54 Speaker 4: J E N N C O F f uy dot com. Well very good, and of course you can find me at Matt Connor t dot and also check out the new site Matt connorton unleashed dot com for even more content and the searchable archive of the show. You can find our previous conversations with Grimrock there as well. So uh so we're looking really looking forward tonight. This will be great, Grimrock, Thank you again so much.

56:18 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you. I really appreciate you the opportunities that you've given me and to be here. It's just it's like the cherry on top of the icing of the cake or whatever, you know, Oh wonderful, appreciated.

56:28 Speaker 4: Absolutely personal, and if you miss any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little bit at wm andhradio dot org and at my website Matt Connorton dot com and of course Matt Connorton Unleashed dot com. And I was saying about closing the segment with Haunted. What do you think?

56:44 Speaker 5: There you go?

56:44 Speaker 4: We didn't play that one yet, right, You do have a lot of music. Yeah, let's play this one. This is a good one. This is Haunted from Grimrock. And uh, we'll talk to you a little bit later. Bye, everybody, No.

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