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2:19 Speaker 4: All right, that is you belong you see. That is

2:23 Speaker 4: grim Rock and we've got grim Rock with us and

2:26 Speaker 4: we're going to introduce him in just a moment. Jenny

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3:02 Speaker 4: listening live. Today is Saturday May thirtieth, two thy twenty six.

3:08 Speaker 4: Grim Rock is on tour and he's been on the

3:11 Speaker 4: show with us a bunch of times, but now we

3:13 Speaker 4: get to actually meet him. He is here with us

3:15 Speaker 4: live in studio. Let me get that mic on there,

3:18 Speaker 4: We've got the He's actually going to play a song

3:20 Speaker 4: for us in a moment. But hey, Grim, let's see

3:24 Speaker 4: I cannot hear you. Let me figure out why. Oh

3:28 Speaker 4: I think I hear something. Hey, welcome, Oh I can

3:33 Speaker 4: hear you. That's even more than half the battle Welcome,

3:39 Speaker 4: And uh, let me put that camera on. So if

3:41 Speaker 4: you are just listening to the audio of the show,

3:44 Speaker 4: when you get a chance, check out the video because

3:46 Speaker 4: Grim is in his full He's in his full regalia,

3:49 Speaker 4: he's got the makeup on. Everything is wonderful, very very cool.

3:53 Speaker 4: Strum that guitar for me a little, would you. Oh

3:57 Speaker 4: that sounds nice. That sounds nice. The headphones. So Grim's

4:01 Speaker 4: gonna play something for us, and then we're gonna we'll

4:04 Speaker 4: play another studio track and then we'll come back and talk.

4:07 Speaker 4: Uh take this opportunity to speak with Grim Rock here

4:10 Speaker 4: in studio. But what are you gonna play for us today?

4:12 Speaker 5: I am going to play the track don't you that

4:14 Speaker 5: you play? I'm gonna attempt to play it on the

4:17 Speaker 5: acoustic for you. But that way, this will be the

4:19 Speaker 5: first time I've actually played it on here, so really yeah,

4:22 Speaker 5: So we're gonna give it a shot to see what happens.

4:24 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, all right, all right, this will be great?

4:27 Speaker 4: All right, grim Rock live in studio.

5:07 Speaker 6: Leave me something in your fall, no idea your mind.

5:15 Speaker 6: The clock is known aspen and leave lost my mind.

5:23 Speaker 6: Don't you go running away? Don't you know what you mind?

5:29 Speaker 7: Find?

5:31 Speaker 1: Don't you know you running high?

5:35 Speaker 5: Don't you don't you.

5:55 Speaker 2: Tell me something? Meaning fall?

5:59 Speaker 5: No out there your fan.

6:03 Speaker 2: Will is stole it?

6:04 Speaker 5: Turn really lost?

6:08 Speaker 2: Man?

6:10 Speaker 1: Don't you go running away? Don't you know what you

6:16 Speaker 1: ma fan? Don't you know you running in hard?

6:22 Speaker 5: Don't you don't?

6:41 Speaker 1: Don't you go running away?

6:44 Speaker 5: Don't you know you know what you mad fan?

6:48 Speaker 1: Don't you know you know you running hard?

6:52 Speaker 5: Don't you know?

6:53 Speaker 8: Don't you don't tell?

6:57 Speaker 5: Don't you don't?

7:29 Speaker 4: All right? Grim Rock live in studio with us. We're

7:32 Speaker 4: going to talk to Grimrock in just a moment, and uh,

7:35 Speaker 4: this is this is really cool. It's wonderful to have Mark.

7:37 Speaker 4: And we'll talk all about tonight. We'll talk all about tonight.

7:40 Speaker 4: He's going to be playing a big show tonight at

7:41 Speaker 4: the Spot in Nashua. But right now, here's another studio

7:45 Speaker 4: track from Grimrock. This is called Abyss.

7:53 Speaker 8: It's a dark.

7:57 Speaker 9: Exists you thought of bills, where my shot soul sills,

8:29 Speaker 9: my chaotic mind can and a lot of blss.

8:55 Speaker 8: Some women in name image inflicting time and I fam

9:04 Speaker 8: my man wrong well Robil.

9:35 Speaker 2: You bo.

10:03 Speaker 8: Nothing is right?

10:07 Speaker 5: The weather t fol is five, shot at a dog about.

10:14 Speaker 8: My life, controlling me, refusing to save me? Freeze, Why

10:47 Speaker 8: can high job?

11:09 Speaker 3: Where am shot?

11:27 Speaker 2: Shot?

11:46 Speaker 4: That is Abyss and that is grim Rock and grim

11:51 Speaker 4: Rock is here with us a live in studio today

11:53 Speaker 4: on Matt connorton Unleash. Hello, grim Hey, how are you good? Good?

11:57 Speaker 4: You sound great. It's wonderful to finally meet you. So

12:00 Speaker 4: you've been How when was the first time you were

12:02 Speaker 4: on the show? I mean it was a few years ago, right,

12:03 Speaker 4: it was a couple of years ago. Yeah, it had

12:05 Speaker 4: to be at least a few because I remember, I'm

12:07 Speaker 4: pretty sure the first time we played don't You, which

12:09 Speaker 4: was the first single of yours that we ever played

12:10 Speaker 4: on the show, we were still at the old because

12:13 Speaker 4: we haven't always been in this studio. We used to

12:15 Speaker 4: be down on Elm Street and we moved here maybe

12:20 Speaker 4: two and a half years ago. So yeah, so it's

12:22 Speaker 4: been a while. It's been a while. How many times

12:23 Speaker 4: have you been? Are you in the five timers club?

12:25 Speaker 2: Now?

12:25 Speaker 5: No, this will be four with me being here live.

12:28 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, doesn't that count as two for him? Why?

12:32 Speaker 10: What do you mean because he traveled over two thousand miles?

12:34 Speaker 4: Oh, two thousand miles.

12:37 Speaker 5: I don't have any miles. I don't think it's too

12:39 Speaker 5: It was like six hundred.

12:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it might be a little bit. Yeah, so

12:46 Speaker 4: you're from Pennsylvania. By the way, it's been a I

12:49 Speaker 4: don't know if you know, this has been a very

12:50 Speaker 4: Pennsylvania show today because it just going and this this

12:54 Speaker 4: was not planned. It just worked out this way. The

12:56 Speaker 4: guess we had in the first hour Robin Ross is

12:57 Speaker 4: also in Pennsylvania, Rob and Ross and the mellowdnes So

13:01 Speaker 4: it is just funny how that worked out. But so

13:04 Speaker 4: you're on tour, where did you play last night? Or tonight?

13:06 Speaker 5: The first night of the tonight, he's the first night.

13:09 Speaker 5: I actually stopped at the spot just to see the

13:11 Speaker 5: place and make the owner and pass some stuff out

13:14 Speaker 5: and just you know, try to track people.

13:16 Speaker 4: Tonight, you know, excellent, excellent, Yeah, Jenny and I haven't

13:19 Speaker 4: been there yet, so this will be our first time there.

13:21 Speaker 4: We Yeah, we had Mike McDowell, the owner, also known

13:25 Speaker 4: as the Healer. I don't did he introduce himself to

13:27 Speaker 4: you that way?

13:28 Speaker 5: Uh No, Actually, I just I caught him behind the

13:32 Speaker 5: you know, the boar.

13:33 Speaker 4: Okay, so I was half kid. I don't think he

13:35 Speaker 4: actually introduces himself as the Healer. But uh, but that

13:38 Speaker 4: is a moniker that he hasked. No, but he's he's

13:40 Speaker 4: a great guy. So he was on the show back

13:43 Speaker 4: before he had even opened. He was talking about it,

13:46 Speaker 4: and uh, I thought it was very positive that because

13:50 Speaker 4: it's not I don't know what. I'm curious, like what

13:52 Speaker 4: it's like in your area as far as this goes.

13:55 Speaker 4: But in this area, it's really hard to find all

13:57 Speaker 4: ages shows and and venues that will have all ages events.

14:01 Speaker 4: There just aren't many, you know, because you know, if

14:05 Speaker 4: you go out to a club or a bar, it's

14:07 Speaker 4: it's usually either eighteen plus or twenty one plus. It's

14:09 Speaker 4: hard to find all ages venues anywhere.

14:12 Speaker 8: You know.

14:12 Speaker 4: We've had We've had some over the years, and there

14:13 Speaker 4: might be some in the area that I don't know about.

14:17 Speaker 4: But there's you know, there are few and far between,

14:22 Speaker 4: you know, or there's always promoters to who will And

14:24 Speaker 4: I did some of this back in the day. You know,

14:26 Speaker 4: you throw a show at an elkslodge or something and

14:28 Speaker 4: then it's all ages. You let people in because you're

14:30 Speaker 4: not serving alcohol. But but I think it's really cool

14:33 Speaker 4: that you're playing an all ages show at the spot,

14:36 Speaker 4: And uh, that's a that's a really such a service

14:38 Speaker 4: to the community what they're doing by providing an all

14:40 Speaker 4: ages of venue for for people.

14:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a good thing. You know, back home,

14:44 Speaker 5: there's not very much of that either, you know really Yeah. Yeah,

14:47 Speaker 5: it's it's either bring your own bottle kind of club

14:50 Speaker 5: or you know, it's an eighteen plus you know. Ok,

14:53 Speaker 5: that's pretty cool.

14:54 Speaker 4: Yeah. Have you been able to play all ages shows before?

14:57 Speaker 2: Yeah?

14:58 Speaker 4: Like, okay, so there are there are opportunities where you live,

15:01 Speaker 4: there's just probably not many. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's good.

15:06 Speaker 4: That's good. Now do you know anything the band you're

15:08 Speaker 4: opening for, the Melted Chapsticks, Do you know anything about them?

15:11 Speaker 5: I absolutely don't. I checked. When I found out who

15:13 Speaker 5: it was, I went and listened to some of their

15:15 Speaker 5: music so I could see what they sounded like. Yeah,

15:17 Speaker 5: and uh, you know, I talked to his name Mike,

15:21 Speaker 5: Mike McDowell. No spot, no, no, he goes by King

15:27 Speaker 5: Chapstick or something on Instagram.

15:28 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Jenny and I don't actually know them, believe

15:31 Speaker 4: it or not, but.

15:31 Speaker 5: I was talking. I was talking to him back and

15:33 Speaker 5: forth here and there. So yeah, gett a feel for everything. Okay,

15:36 Speaker 5: it sounds like it's gonna be really cool, you know.

15:39 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, outstanding. And then now where do you

15:43 Speaker 4: go after tonight? Where's your next stop.

15:46 Speaker 5: After we Well, we'll stay here tonight, we'll leave tomorrow

15:48 Speaker 5: and then I'll be in near Cleveland, Ohio will be

15:51 Speaker 5: my next one.

15:51 Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, how far are you going with this store?

15:54 Speaker 1: Like?

15:54 Speaker 4: How far? Where are you going?

15:56 Speaker 8: Uh?

15:56 Speaker 5: This is the Furthest. Okay, this is absolutely the Furthest. Yeah,

15:59 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. All of the other stuff's

16:01 Speaker 5: like three four hours tops, you know.

16:03 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah for now. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's not like

16:06 Speaker 4: gas is expensive or anything, right.

16:10 Speaker 5: You know, the way you know you play music and stuff,

16:12 Speaker 5: you know, it's it's you got a lost leader at

16:13 Speaker 5: the very beginning.

16:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that is very true. That is very true.

16:18 Speaker 4: You know, even before gas prices went went way up

16:21 Speaker 4: like they have. There there's been many you know, there's

16:25 Speaker 4: been national touring acts that have had to, uh really

16:28 Speaker 4: kind of cut down on the touring just because it's

16:29 Speaker 4: so cost prohibitive these days with with the inflation and everything.

16:33 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but and then you get the national touring acts,

16:37 Speaker 5: so it charged so much money, you know, to even

16:39 Speaker 5: go see him. I mean, I get I get that

16:41 Speaker 5: they're they're the you know, big name bands and stuff

16:44 Speaker 5: like that.

16:45 Speaker 4: Yeah.

16:45 Speaker 5: Wow, some of the prices man, oh yeah, ridiculous.

16:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible. Now when you play tonight, So is

16:51 Speaker 4: it just you?

16:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just gonna be a mean And how does

16:54 Speaker 5: that work?

16:54 Speaker 4: So for our listeners who are not familiar with you,

16:56 Speaker 4: I know we've talked about it when you've been on

16:58 Speaker 4: the show, but I mean, how how does does that

17:00 Speaker 4: work when you're you know, because obviously you know your

17:03 Speaker 4: sound is sounds like a full band on the studio albums,

17:07 Speaker 4: So what do you do to kind of replicate that

17:09 Speaker 4: live or how do you approach that?

17:10 Speaker 5: So basically, I do the recording of the tracks at

17:13 Speaker 5: the house, with the exception of cast a Shadow, I

17:15 Speaker 5: did that in the studio studio, okay, But I play

17:17 Speaker 5: my own instruments, all of them.

17:19 Speaker 4: Yeah.

17:19 Speaker 5: And so in the very end when I go to

17:22 Speaker 5: get the when the track's finished and I need a

17:24 Speaker 5: backing track, then I just get rid of like all

17:26 Speaker 5: the guitars, all of them, and all the vocals except

17:29 Speaker 5: for maybe a few backup vocals depending on the track itself, okay.

17:33 Speaker 5: And then when I go to play it live, I

17:34 Speaker 5: play it off tablet.

17:36 Speaker 4: Oh gotcha, Yeah, gotcha.

17:38 Speaker 5: So it's still there, you know, but it's just missing

17:41 Speaker 5: all this the main stuff. That way, you can hear

17:44 Speaker 5: when I make mistakes or ad lib or something's a

17:47 Speaker 5: little bit different with the song, you can hear that

17:48 Speaker 5: it's actually me playing against that track. It's not, you know,

17:51 Speaker 5: I'm not live sinking anything.

17:53 Speaker 4: Right, That makes sense?

17:54 Speaker 10: Now?

17:54 Speaker 4: Does anything ever go wrong with that?

17:56 Speaker 5: My first gig, man, I'll tell you what I think

17:59 Speaker 5: I probably told you on so and you know, mister Phil,

18:02 Speaker 5: he was a great guy for the whole thing was

18:03 Speaker 5: the Green Beacon Gallery, Believe it or not. Okay, I

18:05 Speaker 5: played there a bunch ever since. Yeah, my first gig,

18:08 Speaker 5: you know, I was at home and I had my

18:10 Speaker 5: setup and I was like, yes, this stuff works, I'm great.

18:13 Speaker 4: Yeah.

18:13 Speaker 5: Well I took a bunch of stuff with me that

18:15 Speaker 5: worked at home, and it didn't work with the system.

18:18 Speaker 5: Oh no, Oh it was a mess. But I got

18:20 Speaker 5: through it, you know, and he was very patient with

18:22 Speaker 5: me and it was really cool. Well, like I said,

18:25 Speaker 5: I've been back lots of times at that place.

18:28 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. How long are you playing

18:32 Speaker 4: for tonight? How long have a set to you have?

18:35 Speaker 5: It depends there was a third band on there. I

18:37 Speaker 5: think they something happened that they're not there now. Oh okay,

18:41 Speaker 5: and I know there's another person going to do an

18:44 Speaker 5: act in between. Oh really, so I think originally it

18:48 Speaker 5: could have I'm going to guess forty minutes.

18:50 Speaker 4: Okay. So yeah, is that kind of what you're used to?

18:54 Speaker 4: I mean, like, have you ever had to play like

18:56 Speaker 4: a really long set?

18:57 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I played shows that were two hours?

18:59 Speaker 4: No.

19:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, everything in the book, man, I was like one through.

19:03 Speaker 5: I was like trying to remember stuff. By the end,

19:04 Speaker 5: I'm like, maybe i'll play something again, you know, like

19:07 Speaker 5: just to bring it back, you know, rough play two

19:09 Speaker 5: ours shows a couple of different times. Oh okay, that's long.

19:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I want to talk about your sound

19:16 Speaker 4: because I describe it, you know, I always talk about

19:18 Speaker 4: it on the show before we play something of yours,

19:20 Speaker 4: that you've got kind of a it's kind of a

19:21 Speaker 4: low five garage rock sound. That's how I describe it.

19:24 Speaker 4: I mean, that is that how you describe it to

19:26 Speaker 4: people who haven't heard you yet if they're curious about

19:28 Speaker 4: what to expect.

19:30 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, I always say garage rock, and I

19:32 Speaker 5: don't know if people really know what that is, you know,

19:34 Speaker 5: but you know, I'll say it, or I'll say alternative rock,

19:37 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because that alternative rock could

19:39 Speaker 5: be anything from mellow to grungey to you know, that

19:42 Speaker 5: raw sound or whatever. You know. Yeah, but yeah, so

19:46 Speaker 5: I just either those two words. You know, it depends

19:48 Speaker 5: on what I'm talking to. If it's a musician, I'm like, hey,

19:50 Speaker 5: it's garage rock, you know. If it's a regular person,

19:52 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it's it's all rock, you know.

19:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean in the nineties, alt rock

19:57 Speaker 4: really kind of became a catch all term for anything

19:59 Speaker 4: that well, you know, like sort of in the post

20:02 Speaker 4: in the post hair metal period, all rock, I feel like,

20:05 Speaker 4: became a catch all for anything that wasn't hair metal. Absolutely,

20:07 Speaker 4: and then eventually it just became everything because you know

20:11 Speaker 4: everything was alt rock.

20:12 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and post your Children collect a Soul together

20:16 Speaker 5: with Nirvana. Yeah, that's all alternative rock.

20:18 Speaker 4: Right right right. So for those for those who have

20:24 Speaker 4: not seen you again, if you're only listening to the

20:27 Speaker 4: audio version of the show, I said, yes, you check

20:29 Speaker 4: the video and you know they'll do lots of pictures

20:31 Speaker 4: and stuff. But so you've got the whole, You've got

20:33 Speaker 4: your outfit, you've got your face paint. How long does

20:35 Speaker 4: it take to put all that together?

20:38 Speaker 5: That's that's my every person, every makeup artist's dream right here.

20:43 Speaker 5: My wife does it. Yeah, and it takes about, I

20:46 Speaker 5: don't know, twenty minutes.

20:47 Speaker 4: Oh that's it.

20:48 Speaker 5: I'm around there.

20:48 Speaker 4: Oh I'm not bad.

20:49 Speaker 5: Like if I did it, it would look terrible when

20:51 Speaker 5: I'd be done in five minutes and yeah, it'd be

20:54 Speaker 5: a mess. You No, she she she does it for

20:56 Speaker 5: me every time. Iday. Oh okay, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,

20:59 Speaker 5: she does it everything for me. Like with this, it's

21:01 Speaker 5: it's I'm grateful, you know.

21:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Oh that's excellent. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't

21:07 Speaker 4: be like if I had to do that, I wouldn't

21:08 Speaker 4: be able to do it myself either.

21:09 Speaker 5: Oh no, it looks terrible if it looked like if

21:11 Speaker 5: I was just like four and just took a crayon

21:14 Speaker 5: on a piece of paper, or oh yeah, it's bad.

21:17 Speaker 4: I can't draw so like anytime, Like you know, when

21:20 Speaker 4: I used to dress up for Halloween. If my favorite

21:22 Speaker 4: band is Kiss, But if I were dressing up as

21:24 Speaker 4: a Kiss member, somebody would have to do my makeup

21:26 Speaker 4: for me. I literally could not. I just wouldn't have

21:29 Speaker 4: a clue to how to even do any of that myself.

21:32 Speaker 4: So yeah, it would it would be a mess. Now

21:35 Speaker 4: have you ever I know I've asked you this before,

21:37 Speaker 4: but again for people who are just learning about you,

21:39 Speaker 4: have you ever played a show without the makeup?

21:42 Speaker 5: I do from time to time. It just depends on

21:43 Speaker 5: what it is. Yeah, you know what I mean. If

21:45 Speaker 5: it's like an open mic or something somewhere, it's only

21:47 Speaker 5: going to be a couple of tracks or something. I

21:50 Speaker 5: probably I don't paint up. I probably should, you know,

21:52 Speaker 5: I think I've said that before. I probably should just

21:54 Speaker 5: to go do it, right, But the amount of time

21:56 Speaker 5: it takes to do that, by the time you get

21:58 Speaker 5: up there and you wait and you get your two

22:01 Speaker 5: three tracks or whatever, it's I just usually just got myself,

22:04 Speaker 5: you know, and people have no idea who I am

22:06 Speaker 5: because I look like everybody else at that point.

22:10 Speaker 4: Right, So, is there is there like a transformative thing

22:14 Speaker 4: that happens when you put the makeup on? You know,

22:15 Speaker 4: I've I've heard like Gene Simmons describe, you know, when

22:19 Speaker 4: when he puts the makeup on and he becomes the demon.

22:21 Speaker 4: It's like a completely different mindset, Like does that happen

22:23 Speaker 4: for you anything like that?

22:25 Speaker 5: Well, you know on stage, yeah, I mean you got

22:27 Speaker 5: to take on what you look like, you know, just

22:30 Speaker 5: it's it's a completely different atmosphere and you're in front

22:33 Speaker 5: of all these people and you have to you know,

22:36 Speaker 5: your job is to entertain them. You know, whether you're musician,

22:39 Speaker 5: you're like, oh my art is my art? That your

22:42 Speaker 5: your job is to entertain the people that they are there. Yeah,

22:45 Speaker 5: that's four first and foremost. So you got to give

22:48 Speaker 5: them something so that, you know, be painted up like

22:49 Speaker 5: us and give them a show, you know, in along

22:53 Speaker 5: the lines with that, you know, that's that's really what

22:57 Speaker 5: you know, is the transformative part you know what I mean.

23:00 Speaker 4: We have some people in the chat room. Let's see.

23:03 Speaker 4: Oh we have some, Yeah, we have some. Vincent Julian

23:07 Speaker 4: Johnson is that someone you know?

23:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Vinnie. Oh yeah, yeah, Vinny's awesome.

23:11 Speaker 4: Thank him, yep, he says, Oh, he posted a bunch

23:14 Speaker 4: of things in here. He said, let's go grimmer Man.

23:17 Speaker 4: Uh Grim, Rock, I'm I'm tuning in, brother, let's go.

23:23 Speaker 4: Let's see. Oh. Lacey, our friend, Lacey who I am,

23:27 Speaker 4: says I have a great show. Thank you, Lacey. If

23:29 Speaker 4: you're still listening, Rock and Robin says, thanks so much

23:32 Speaker 4: for having me on today. Oh yeah, that was Robin,

23:37 Speaker 4: Robin Ross. We had on in the first hour. Another Pennsylvanian.

23:41 Speaker 4: Thank you us. Yep, thank you Robin for joining us.

23:44 Speaker 4: Melvin Crockett Junior says, my guy Grim.

23:47 Speaker 5: That is the guy that did the video for Abyss.

23:50 Speaker 4: Oh, no kidding, okay, Oh excellent, excellent.

23:53 Speaker 5: He did a fantastic job on that video.

23:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Vincent says, that's my guy. I love the

24:00 Speaker 4: guitar riff. Go Grim. Uh, let's see. Vincent also said,

24:05 Speaker 4: damn Grim, I see you, brother. I can't wait to

24:08 Speaker 4: do a feature with a hip hop twist. Ah, what

24:11 Speaker 4: does that mean? Interesting?

24:12 Speaker 5: So he's he's an artist. He does you know, hip

24:15 Speaker 5: hop and rap and stuff like that.

24:16 Speaker 4: Yeah.

24:17 Speaker 5: I mean, and we've talked about a collaboration. So okay,

24:20 Speaker 5: So it's you know that the things that I do

24:22 Speaker 5: he doesn't usually do, and the things he does I

24:24 Speaker 5: don't usually do. So it's going to be kind of

24:25 Speaker 5: kind of really unique, Yeah, for both of us to

24:28 Speaker 5: get together to do something. But oh yeah, we're going

24:30 Speaker 5: to do something. I don't know what yet. Yeah, but

24:32 Speaker 5: we're we're gonna figure something out.

24:34 Speaker 4: Oh excellent. Yeah. Yeah. He also said in the chat,

24:36 Speaker 4: a grim tell them to give you a boy a

24:38 Speaker 4: shout out for grind Squad music group.

24:41 Speaker 5: That's his that's his group.

24:42 Speaker 4: Oh excellent. Okay, okay, well, very good, very good. I

24:46 Speaker 4: wonder if that's who If somebody was trying to call

24:48 Speaker 4: the studio line, I wonder if that's who was calling

24:54 Speaker 4: eight seven eight? Is that a familiar aera code? I

24:56 Speaker 4: don't know what that was, Okay, yeah, no idea that

24:58 Speaker 4: might have just might have been spamed.

25:00 Speaker 5: Who knows your extended car warrants? You want to renew it?

25:04 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I get a lot of those, So are

25:08 Speaker 4: people surprised at at shows? If someone's there at a show,

25:13 Speaker 4: Like if people who go to the spot tonight who

25:15 Speaker 4: are not familiar with you haven't heard your music yet,

25:17 Speaker 4: do you expect that they will be surprised when because

25:21 Speaker 4: your your image with the paint? I mean, the first thing,

25:23 Speaker 4: I'm sure you've heard this, and I probably even said

25:25 Speaker 4: this to you, The first thing I think of is

25:26 Speaker 4: King Diamond when I see the paint. But you're you're

25:30 Speaker 4: not that right, so you know you're not gonna get

25:32 Speaker 4: up there and be like you know, it's it's like

25:34 Speaker 4: we talked about, it's garage rock. So there's that cool,

25:37 Speaker 4: which I think is cool, that that contrast between what

25:39 Speaker 4: what you appear like visually and what comes out. But

25:43 Speaker 4: I mean, do you run into that a lot where

25:45 Speaker 4: people are just like, oh, just really taking aback?

25:48 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah I get that, And you know it's

25:50 Speaker 5: okay because I like that element of surprised.

25:53 Speaker 4: You know, well, I was gonna say it must be fun,

25:55 Speaker 4: Oh it is, yeah. Yeah.

25:56 Speaker 5: You know I'll play some play a couple of wrists

25:58 Speaker 5: or whatever, you know, don't warm up, might play something

26:00 Speaker 5: a little heavier, you know what I mean then yeah,

26:02 Speaker 5: I go into my first track, my first couple of tracks,

26:04 Speaker 5: I do play them a little heavier than you know

26:06 Speaker 5: what it's recorded, but then you know, I'm in and

26:08 Speaker 5: out of things, you know what I mean. So when

26:10 Speaker 5: you get to that part, everybody's like like.

26:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's cool.

26:15 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's It's like I said, I've never had

26:17 Speaker 5: really any any negativity you know with it. Yeah, you know,

26:21 Speaker 5: dooring a live thing. Yeah, I mean I'm sure if

26:23 Speaker 5: I got bigger, you know, somebody be upset about it,

26:25 Speaker 5: you know, like you don't look.

26:26 Speaker 4: Like that, right right, you know whatever, Hey, uh no,

26:32 Speaker 4: I think that's cool. Like I said, I think that

26:34 Speaker 4: that that contrast is really cool. Maybe, but yeah maybe,

26:39 Speaker 4: like if you showed up to an open mic with that,

26:42 Speaker 4: you might get you might get some some puzzlement from uh.

26:45 Speaker 5: Especially if I showed up with that acoustic with that,

26:48 Speaker 5: you know, right right, I'm playing mellow just like I

26:51 Speaker 5: did there, you know.

26:53 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, no doubt when like, what was the idea,

26:58 Speaker 4: what was the genesis behind this, behind the image of

27:01 Speaker 4: grim Rock, but actually visually.

27:03 Speaker 5: It actually was a Halloween costume. Yeah, and she knows this.

27:07 Speaker 5: I tell her story all the time, and she's here

27:09 Speaker 5: to severify this whole thing. So it was actually a

27:12 Speaker 5: work costing party. We actually met at work, and you

27:15 Speaker 5: know it's probably not as you know, we met at work.

27:18 Speaker 4: And statistically that's very common.

27:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, so here we are a bunch of years later. Anyway,

27:23 Speaker 5: we had this work party and went together and I

27:26 Speaker 5: used to be I've said it before. You know, I'm

27:28 Speaker 5: fourteen years sober now, but I've used to be a

27:29 Speaker 5: heavy drinker before. And so I went to this party.

27:32 Speaker 5: I was already tanked up and I went with her

27:34 Speaker 5: looking like this, and I was running behind people. You know,

27:37 Speaker 5: I didn't even talk. It just it just made people upset,

27:40 Speaker 5: you know, like the whole thing, like, oh, you know

27:41 Speaker 5: he's but you know, from there, I was like, I

27:44 Speaker 5: am going to use this one day, you know what

27:46 Speaker 5: I mean. I had no idea what I was going

27:48 Speaker 5: to do. And I used it for a couple of

27:49 Speaker 5: different calloweens. Yeah, and it modified, you know, I modified it,

27:52 Speaker 5: you know, a couple of different times to this gentlemanly

27:55 Speaker 5: grim yeah kind of look yeah, you know versus the

27:58 Speaker 5: halloweenish one, you know what I mean. Okay, she'll tell you.

28:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's kind of evolved.

28:03 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's definitely evolved. Yeah.

28:05 Speaker 4: Oh very cool. You said fourteen years sober?

28:07 Speaker 5: Fourteen years sober for you? Good for you.

28:09 Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever talked about that.

28:11 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think we have.

28:13 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean is that something you talk about openly?

28:16 Speaker 5: Or oh yeah?

28:17 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

28:19 Speaker 2: How did you?

28:19 Speaker 4: How did you stop when you stopped?

28:21 Speaker 5: Oh well, that's that's an interesting story itself. Is it

28:25 Speaker 5: that one will have to talk about offline?

28:27 Speaker 4: Oh? Really? Okay?

28:28 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, it's really it's really an interesting, interesting story.

28:32 Speaker 5: And you know, yeah, some people know it, and I

28:35 Speaker 5: don't care that people really know it, know it? Yeah,

28:38 Speaker 5: just that you know we're work at now.

28:41 Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean? Gotcha? Gotcha understood? Understood? Yeah, No,

28:46 Speaker 4: good for you? Though. How do you like, how do

28:49 Speaker 4: you stay? I mean, if you can answer this, like,

28:53 Speaker 4: what's what's your biggest motivation to stay on the path

28:56 Speaker 4: that you are? As far as that and not, uh, you.

28:58 Speaker 5: Know, it's it's been so long that it's doesn't even

29:00 Speaker 5: really bother me or me anymore. That's good, that's the thing.

29:03 Speaker 9: You know.

29:03 Speaker 5: But I've heard people, you know, in in some of

29:06 Speaker 5: the meeting rooms and whatever. Say, oh, I was thirty

29:09 Speaker 5: years and fell off. You know. Yeah, that kind of

29:10 Speaker 5: bothers me, you know what I mean, thinking that, you know,

29:12 Speaker 5: thinking that that may be a possibility. But you know,

29:15 Speaker 5: I the way things are really, you know, I just

29:18 Speaker 5: don't I don't see that happening.

29:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, you know, I mean yeah, I

29:24 Speaker 4: mean it's well, I mean, everyone's different, and but it

29:26 Speaker 4: sounds like you, you know, mentally obviously you don't miss it,

29:30 Speaker 4: and so it sounds like you're probably just you know,

29:33 Speaker 4: I mean again, everyone's different. You know, some people once

29:36 Speaker 4: they're done with it, they're done with it and that's it,

29:38 Speaker 4: which is what it sounds like. You know, it sounds

29:41 Speaker 4: like is your situation. But yeah, you do hear people say,

29:43 Speaker 4: you know, I struggle with it, you know, decades every day.

29:47 Speaker 4: It's hard, you know. But but but it sounds like,

29:51 Speaker 4: but everyone's brain is wired differently, you know what I mean.

29:53 Speaker 4: And it sounds like you're fortunately, you know, you just

29:57 Speaker 4: sounds like you don't even like, don't even think about it, right,

29:59 Speaker 4: it's just in your past.

30:01 Speaker 5: And yeah, you know it's crazy because you know I

30:04 Speaker 5: used to be a really bad drinker. I mean, it

30:05 Speaker 5: really was, you know, and it became really problematic, you know,

30:10 Speaker 5: and I wasn't willing to see it at the time. Yeah,

30:15 Speaker 5: but it's funny because you know, my takedown was you know,

30:18 Speaker 5: I had a friend that I hung out with that

30:20 Speaker 5: we got loaded up and we played music. So when

30:22 Speaker 5: we went and played out and things like that, Yeah,

30:24 Speaker 5: you know, it was bar music, you know what I mean.

30:28 Speaker 5: And it was crazy as I can play all these

30:30 Speaker 5: places now and not even think about it.

30:32 Speaker 4: That's good.

30:33 Speaker 8: You know.

30:33 Speaker 5: I can watch all these people fall over and hit

30:36 Speaker 5: their head and stuff, you know, coming out the door

30:37 Speaker 5: or whatever, and I just laugh at him or whatever.

30:40 Speaker 5: But no, really, you know, it just doesn't bother me anymore.

30:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

30:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, good for you. You know, you have to unwire

30:46 Speaker 5: what you had in there, hardwired. I guess there's something

30:50 Speaker 5: I don't know.

30:51 Speaker 4: I know a bit about it, but it's not a

30:53 Speaker 4: problem that I've ever had. But I work as a

30:54 Speaker 4: hypnotherapist and I help people too, mostly with an addiction

30:58 Speaker 4: that I help people to quit oking. But but but

31:02 Speaker 4: it's interesting. It's it's one of the things that is

31:05 Speaker 4: similar is if you talk to do you smoke no

31:09 Speaker 4: good good good for you. Yeah, if you talk to smokers,

31:12 Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of a similar thing where some

31:15 Speaker 4: smokers will tell you or or ex smokers will tell you, yeah,

31:19 Speaker 4: I just I I quit and that was it, and

31:22 Speaker 4: I I just I don't miss it, and I feel

31:24 Speaker 4: so much better. And but there's there's some people who

31:27 Speaker 4: will tell you. And this was kind of my mother's

31:30 Speaker 4: excuse why she went back to it. You know, she

31:33 Speaker 4: would talk about, how, oh I I it's it's a

31:36 Speaker 4: daily struggle for me. Every day I have to resist

31:39 Speaker 4: the urge to smoke a cigarette, which she did for

31:42 Speaker 4: a few years. She did resist, and then eventually she

31:44 Speaker 4: went back to it. But but so much of that

31:48 Speaker 4: too with with cigarettes. The psychological addiction is so much

31:52 Speaker 4: more powerful than the physical addiction, than the chemical addiction.

31:56 Speaker 4: And it's it's a you know, because people think, oh,

31:59 Speaker 4: y know, once the nicotine is in you, once you've

32:01 Speaker 4: been addicted to it, and those brain receptors are active

32:04 Speaker 4: and expecting it, that it's just that you're just stuck

32:07 Speaker 4: with that forever, and it's not true. It's but it's

32:11 Speaker 4: it's the psychological addiction, you know, right, right, but but

32:16 Speaker 4: it sounds like it was kind of like that with

32:17 Speaker 4: you with alcohol and then so once you were done

32:19 Speaker 4: with it, you were just done with it.

32:20 Speaker 5: And yeah, life is better without it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

32:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, Eleanor is in the Facebook live chat Eleanor

32:27 Speaker 4: Luna of course we love Eleanor from New Hampshire Underground

32:30 Speaker 4: and she says, we can't wait to see you tonight,

32:32 Speaker 4: grim Rock and thank you Matt Connerton, thank you Eleanor. Yeah. Yeah,

32:36 Speaker 4: we haven't seen Eleanor in in a while. Actually, Eleanor

32:38 Speaker 4: and Andre, so that'll be great. Yeah, and of course,

32:43 Speaker 4: uh that I believe it's if I remember correctly, it's

32:46 Speaker 4: through Eleanor. That's how we met Mike McDowell from the spot.

32:50 Speaker 4: So because I know they do a lot of work together.

32:53 Speaker 4: New Hampshire Underground another great great venue in uh in Nashua.

32:58 Speaker 4: We should play I think we shoul play a song

33:00 Speaker 4: I was thinking about because you mentioned cast a Shadow.

33:04 Speaker 4: We should give that a spin and then we'll come

33:06 Speaker 4: back and talk some more. But tell us about that,

33:09 Speaker 4: tell us about the video too. The video for Abyss

33:12 Speaker 4: for Caster Shadow was a cast Shadow? Was that the

33:14 Speaker 4: one that that the video?

33:16 Speaker 5: No Melvin Crockett did the video for abyss.

33:18 Speaker 4: Oh for abyss Oh. Okay, well tell tell us about

33:20 Speaker 4: cast oh. I remember why cast a Shadow came up

33:22 Speaker 4: because you were talking about recording that differently than right.

33:26 Speaker 5: That was actually Rhythm Mouse Studios. I didn't record any

33:28 Speaker 5: of it at the house.

33:29 Speaker 4: Gotcha, that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, what was that like,

33:33 Speaker 4: because you obviously this was a change in process for

33:36 Speaker 4: you recording this track. Yeah.

33:38 Speaker 5: So I've been in the studios before, you know, so

33:41 Speaker 5: I knew the process generally. Yeah, it's been so long

33:44 Speaker 5: since I've been in there, you know, and working by

33:47 Speaker 5: yourself all the time pretty much, you know, pushing plays

33:50 Speaker 5: like hey, you know, look at her and be like, hey,

33:52 Speaker 5: what's this sound like? Well it sounds good. Maybe it does,

33:55 Speaker 5: maybe she doesn't. I don't know. YEA honestly telling me,

33:57 Speaker 5: you know, just to make me happier, not to be honest,

33:59 Speaker 5: but uh, but to go into the studio and actually

34:02 Speaker 5: have somebody there it says, hey, do this again, Hey,

34:06 Speaker 5: try this, Hey, let's try this again. You know, that

34:10 Speaker 5: extra little bit of guidance. You know, I really appreciate

34:13 Speaker 5: it from mister Bob, you know what I mean? He uh,

34:16 Speaker 5: he was. He was fantastic trying to put it all together,

34:18 Speaker 5: you know, and we talked a lot through it, you know,

34:21 Speaker 5: because I think I was the heaviest artist he's actually

34:23 Speaker 5: recorded at this point.

34:24 Speaker 4: Okay, oh wow, Well, like what kind of stuff was

34:26 Speaker 4: he used to, uh, recording like this? More like singer songwriters?

34:30 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. You know, there's a guy that's

34:32 Speaker 5: there like all the time. His name is Alli Bravery,

34:34 Speaker 5: and his stuff is really cool, it really is, but

34:36 Speaker 5: it's it's light compared to, you know, my stuff. To

34:39 Speaker 5: the recording process, I'm sure it's a lot different.

34:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So have you only done the one song with.

34:45 Speaker 5: Him at this point? Yeah, I was. I actually had

34:47 Speaker 5: some time schedule with them, but we had some things.

34:49 Speaker 5: There was a bunch of things that happened at the

34:50 Speaker 5: beginning of the year. Yeah, And of course, you know,

34:53 Speaker 5: it goes everything gets delayed and delayed, and then now

34:55 Speaker 5: I'm running back and be like, Okay, after I do

34:58 Speaker 5: these shows, I'm gonna go back into the studio, you

35:01 Speaker 5: know kind of thing, and yeah, I'm opening and get

35:03 Speaker 5: the rest of this done.

35:04 Speaker 8: Yeah.

35:05 Speaker 5: It took it took forever to do do g R five. Yeah, Yeah,

35:09 Speaker 5: there's actually two separate sets of mixes for that for

35:11 Speaker 5: a lot of those tracks.

35:12 Speaker 4: Really.

35:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, the original mix for You Belong you see, I

35:15 Speaker 5: think is the one you might have played, and I

35:17 Speaker 5: think don't use it. The one you play is the

35:19 Speaker 5: original mix work. And those mixes were done at the

35:21 Speaker 5: house before Matt Kirshner got him, before I got picked

35:27 Speaker 5: up by Golden Robot Records. So oh, I already had

35:29 Speaker 5: him released through Districtated, you know, over Spotify and everything else.

35:33 Speaker 4: Yeah.

35:33 Speaker 5: So when I got picked up from Golden rot Records

35:37 Speaker 5: and you know, got involved with Matt Kirshner and stuff,

35:40 Speaker 5: I ended up sending everything to him. Yeah, he remixed

35:42 Speaker 5: them all. And that's the mixes that are on the

35:45 Speaker 5: g R five for Golden Robot Records.

35:47 Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha, Okay, I did not realize that. Interesting.

35:51 Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's give this suspend. This is cast

35:53 Speaker 4: a Shadow. If you're just joining us, grim Rock is

35:55 Speaker 4: here with us in the studio. He's going to be

35:57 Speaker 4: playing tonight at the spot in nashaua uh so, uh

36:01 Speaker 4: but here it is. This is Castle Shadow and this

36:02 Speaker 4: is Grimrock.

36:20 Speaker 11: Web Strey Mountains were stand our flood.

36:36 Speaker 2: And that Mary.

36:38 Speaker 3: I'm told man, they'll be playing.

36:42 Speaker 2: Sometimes that we're liveing away the cron move.

36:54 Speaker 3: I'm just say some of me.

36:58 Speaker 2: The castle sad soald, it's just so.

37:23 Speaker 11: Movie h.

38:08 Speaker 2: Brownstone and brains in the face and the mounta in

38:17 Speaker 2: on the stars stone, the shadow me.

38:24 Speaker 3: There's no rain.

38:26 Speaker 2: I'm not fine. It's just my pain. It's some kind

38:32 Speaker 2: you o. The PRTs, the phone a thing away, not

38:43 Speaker 2: this taste f name it cast a shadow. It's parts

38:51 Speaker 2: in sound of name it cast a saddle? What this taste?

39:27 Speaker 4: Shadow that has cast a shadow? By grim Rock and

39:34 Speaker 4: grim Rock is here with us live in studio. He's

39:37 Speaker 4: going to be playing tonight at the Spot in Nashua,

39:42 Speaker 4: opening up for the Melted Chapsticks and show starts at

39:45 Speaker 4: eight pm. Ten dollars admission. It is all ages, which

39:50 Speaker 4: is very cool and we're excited about that. Oh I

39:54 Speaker 4: should mentioned the name of the show is Demons at

39:56 Speaker 4: the Disco Live alt rock, lamb and funk music, mocktail, Zankava,

40:01 Speaker 4: late night bites, dance floor, fun and door prizes. Very cool.

40:06 Speaker 4: So the Melted chap Six and grim Rock tonight again

40:09 Speaker 4: starts at eight o'clock. If you are listening live on Saturday,

40:12 Speaker 4: of course May thirtieth, eight o'clock. It is an all

40:15 Speaker 4: ages show, which is uh which is extremely cool. So

40:19 Speaker 4: and grim Rock is here with us in studio for

40:21 Speaker 4: the first time. So we've we've talked, we've had you

40:24 Speaker 4: on the phone many times, but it's great to finally

40:27 Speaker 4: meet you. And again I will just remind you if

40:28 Speaker 4: you are listening to the audio version of the show,

40:31 Speaker 4: please check out the video we're streaming right now on

40:34 Speaker 4: Facebook and YouTube, and you know, you can always find

40:36 Speaker 4: it later. But grim is in all of his uh

40:39 Speaker 4: is this Is this what you've worn like since the

40:42 Speaker 4: beginning of developing this image or has that changed over

40:46 Speaker 4: over time?

40:47 Speaker 5: That's changed?

40:48 Speaker 4: Yeah?

40:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that's more modified now than it was.

40:51 Speaker 5: You know, I had when I first did it as

40:53 Speaker 5: the Halloween costume. I got like a youth suited like

40:56 Speaker 5: a Salvation army and yeah, we spray painted it and

40:59 Speaker 5: did all kind of crazy stuff with it to make it,

41:02 Speaker 5: you know, ghostly for costume, you know. But the face

41:06 Speaker 5: paint it was pretty much the same. It was white,

41:08 Speaker 5: but the little the circles were little and I had

41:10 Speaker 5: a lot more stitches, you know, a lot more stitches

41:12 Speaker 5: on my mouth, you know, Okay, and a lot of

41:15 Speaker 5: that got modified, you know. Now it's just the poor

41:17 Speaker 5: and the bigger eyes, you know. But it's the same premise,

41:20 Speaker 5: Like if you look at the first picture, you look

41:22 Speaker 5: at this name, like, oh yeah, that's the same guy.

41:23 Speaker 5: It's just looks newer picture than the other one, you know.

41:27 Speaker 5: But of course now I'm just in the straight black.

41:29 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm to ask you this is from

41:32 Speaker 4: a practical standpoint. Do you get hot when you're on

41:34 Speaker 4: stage wearing that?

41:36 Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, And that's why I have two different sets

41:39 Speaker 5: of makeup for the for stuff.

41:41 Speaker 8: You know.

41:41 Speaker 5: I think we talked about this before too. I gotta

41:45 Speaker 5: thank Gene Simmons. You talk about Gene Simmons. I gotta

41:47 Speaker 5: thank Gene Simmons because I found a video of him

41:50 Speaker 5: making up his daughter and his signature face thing, and

41:55 Speaker 5: he had let people know what the makeup was, and

41:59 Speaker 5: it's actually like a clown white makeup, so it's a

42:01 Speaker 5: different type of makeup. And I was wondering how, you know,

42:05 Speaker 5: he got up there because when I was wearing this,

42:07 Speaker 5: because this stuff's a temporary one, you know what I mean.

42:09 Speaker 5: I'll put the heavier one on the night because I'll

42:11 Speaker 5: be sweating, you know and stuff. Yeah, but uh, I

42:15 Speaker 5: was wondering how the heck they did that, you know

42:16 Speaker 5: what I mean up there playing, you know, and you

42:19 Speaker 5: can you can see them like they're damp, but nothing's

42:21 Speaker 5: really running. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, they do that,

42:24 Speaker 5: you know. But I saw that video and I ended

42:26 Speaker 5: up ordering Maren's the company. I ended up ordering a

42:29 Speaker 5: tub of this stuff. I was like, well, if this

42:31 Speaker 5: thing works, and I got a tub of it now,

42:33 Speaker 5: and uh yeah, that's what I used for the base cut.

42:35 Speaker 5: And let me tell you this stuff, it stands up.

42:38 Speaker 5: But I did know I did do something though. I

42:40 Speaker 5: left the black the regular because as I as I

42:43 Speaker 5: get warmed up and starts sweating and it starts to run,

42:45 Speaker 5: it started it looks kind of cool, you know, because

42:47 Speaker 5: it kind of alters my image through the night, you know.

42:50 Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I didn't order the other paint to

42:53 Speaker 5: make it so it stays. I thought it was kind

42:55 Speaker 5: of cool to it because I found that out at

42:57 Speaker 5: that metal fest last year in the middle of July.

43:00 Speaker 5: You know, the white was I mean, it was just

43:02 Speaker 5: stuck there and other stuff was just running off me.

43:04 Speaker 7: You know.

43:05 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, that's kind of cool. I wonder though,

43:08 Speaker 4: do you ever have a Have you ever been tempted

43:11 Speaker 4: to just not do the makeup?

43:13 Speaker 9: I have?

43:13 Speaker 5: But you know, it's just my image. Yeah, you know

43:17 Speaker 5: what I mean, especially when I play a wall set

43:19 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna have that, I'm gonna be plugged in

43:21 Speaker 5: right right, you know?

43:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that makes sense, that makes sense. But yeah,

43:25 Speaker 4: I can imagine it's tempting on a hot day to

43:27 Speaker 4: just I don't know, now, do you do you get

43:35 Speaker 4: an opportunity to play with a lot of different uh,

43:38 Speaker 4: because what you're doing is unique enough where I would

43:40 Speaker 4: imagine as far as playing shows, you fit in kind

43:43 Speaker 4: of with uh, Like, you don't necessarily fit in anywhere perfectly, right,

43:47 Speaker 4: because while you're doing is unique. But at the same time,

43:49 Speaker 4: sometimes that can be an advantage where you actually, like

43:52 Speaker 4: not fitting in helps you fit in more places, if

43:55 Speaker 4: that makes sense?

43:56 Speaker 5: It does?

43:57 Speaker 4: I mean, have you found that, like, are there are

43:59 Speaker 4: there other artists in your area back in Pennsylvania who

44:03 Speaker 4: you play a lot of shows with because you just

44:04 Speaker 4: fit well with them, or yeah, there's.

44:06 Speaker 5: A few of them that I played with, you know, consistently,

44:08 Speaker 5: And then you know, I get to I get to

44:10 Speaker 5: play all kinds of different places with all kinds of

44:13 Speaker 5: different bands. Yeah, and you know, there was some you

44:16 Speaker 5: know that I got in there and like I played

44:19 Speaker 5: at the Rock Room in Pittsburgh. I love that place.

44:21 Speaker 5: The bands that were in there were ultra heavy, and

44:24 Speaker 5: I sounded like air supply compared to them, you know.

44:26 Speaker 5: But then I had other places I went to and

44:30 Speaker 5: I was the heaviest of everybody there, you know what

44:32 Speaker 5: I mean. Or you know, the we had a guy

44:36 Speaker 5: we played with. His name is you know, I don't

44:37 Speaker 5: know if you talk to him Silicon Kong. His stuff

44:40 Speaker 5: is so different that his stuff's different and my stuff's heavier.

44:45 Speaker 5: And then we had like Choshack you might. I don't

44:47 Speaker 5: know if you talked to them either. Their stuff's like

44:49 Speaker 5: in between everything. Their stuff's gotten progressively heavier though.

44:53 Speaker 4: Yeah.

44:53 Speaker 5: And so I mean it's just, you know, Perishabules are

44:57 Speaker 5: like more punky kind of you know. So I kind

44:59 Speaker 5: of fit in with a lot of different bands, you

45:01 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Yeah, I can get plugged into anything,

45:04 Speaker 5: like you're just playing whatever.

45:05 Speaker 4: But that makes sense, that makes sense. Oh, we have

45:09 Speaker 4: Jenny the the Trolls, have shown up. Yeah, I'm not

45:13 Speaker 4: gonna read their comments, but I don't I don't mind

45:15 Speaker 4: the trolls though. I think it's funny. We have, Uh,

45:19 Speaker 4: how do you even say that, Blacker REGI, I don't

45:24 Speaker 4: know how to say that. Who else?

45:26 Speaker 8: We have?

45:26 Speaker 4: Mister Taco sixty six. We know that name. We know,

45:31 Speaker 4: we know mister Taco. And Ben Gleck is in there.

45:36 Speaker 4: That's interesting, Yeah, we have. They usually show up. So

45:38 Speaker 4: I do a podcast called Tough Bumps about wrestling on Sundays,

45:42 Speaker 4: and that's where we usually see some of these people.

45:45 Speaker 4: But they're they're they're they're aligned with a podcaster from

45:49 Speaker 4: New York City who has been going around saying that

45:52 Speaker 4: my show is canceled, you know, the show that I'm

45:54 Speaker 4: literally sitting here doing right now. Oh yeah, he tells people,

45:57 Speaker 4: but he does that like every six months or so.

45:59 Speaker 4: He'll tell any one who will listen that I'm not

46:01 Speaker 4: on the air anymore. Right in the WMNH parted ways

46:04 Speaker 4: with me, and you know, meanwhile, I've been here for

46:06 Speaker 4: over nine years and uh.

46:07 Speaker 5: Well since the runner, they can know that I actually

46:09 Speaker 5: sponsored a wrestler for a while. You did, yeah, oh yeah,

46:13 Speaker 5: talk about that. So a guy from New York. Actually

46:16 Speaker 5: name was Jay Flyer, and he was an amateur wrestler,

46:20 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It was running through like

46:22 Speaker 5: pcw A and and all the those kind of leagues.

46:25 Speaker 5: And I actually sponsored him a while. Actually the theme

46:27 Speaker 5: song for him and everything.

46:28 Speaker 4: Wow.

46:29 Speaker 5: And one of the shows I actually got to go

46:32 Speaker 5: to was a Hamburg PA and we went out there

46:35 Speaker 5: and I actually got to get in the ring with

46:38 Speaker 5: oh man name just slip my. He was a referee,

46:45 Speaker 5: a big name referee.

46:47 Speaker 4: Earl oh Earl Hebner.

46:48 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I actually got to get I guys stand

46:50 Speaker 5: in the ring with him and hold the Intercontinental thing

46:52 Speaker 5: in my gear. I went like this and uh stuff

46:56 Speaker 5: and you know, and so that was pretty cool, you

46:58 Speaker 5: know that that happened.

46:59 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, excellent, excellent. Are you? Are you a

47:04 Speaker 4: wrestling fan just generally or you know, I like.

47:07 Speaker 5: The old school wrestling, you know what I mean. I

47:09 Speaker 5: don't really get to I don't really watch much TV

47:11 Speaker 5: as it is, you know what I mean. Yeah, so

47:13 Speaker 5: if something's on, you know, I'll watch it, but you know,

47:16 Speaker 5: I don't go out of my way to actually watch it,

47:18 Speaker 5: you know.

47:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, just as well. Too much isn't good for you.

47:22 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's just always bad news on a TV.

47:27 Speaker 8: You know.

47:27 Speaker 5: At least at the end of the newscast they used

47:29 Speaker 5: to do like, oh, we found a rescued a puppy

47:31 Speaker 5: and it was a happy story. Right. They don't even

47:33 Speaker 5: do that anymore. Next hour we have doom.

47:36 Speaker 8: You know.

47:38 Speaker 4: Well, I think maybe we should plan another studio track.

47:41 Speaker 4: I'm gonna find uh. I want to make sure I'm

47:44 Speaker 4: playing the right mixes, though, so let me let me

47:47 Speaker 4: find Oh.

47:48 Speaker 5: You're fine with that. I was just like, yeah, because

47:50 Speaker 5: it was an interesting facet to that jure if I've

47:52 Speaker 5: took forever to put together.

47:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I think I found Oh what is this stone?

48:00 Speaker 5: That's not even that's not even that's a demo track?

48:02 Speaker 4: Oh okay, because I didn't recognize the title. That's why

48:04 Speaker 4: I was wondering. Yeah, let's see. Oh is this it?

48:12 Speaker 4: What is this hashtag? M Oh, that's a that's what

48:15 Speaker 4: what is this hashtag? Nms? The Grim tracks?

48:18 Speaker 5: Oh, that's the podcast.

48:20 Speaker 4: Oh is that a podcast that you do?

48:22 Speaker 2: Uh?

48:22 Speaker 5: No, Actually it is two guys as the one guy

48:24 Speaker 5: in the UK and one guy in Canada, and they

48:26 Speaker 5: do like an independent music podcast.

48:28 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, oh yeah, excellent. Umm, yeah, I'm having

48:34 Speaker 4: trouble just finding good.

48:37 Speaker 5: City has a new mix.

48:39 Speaker 4: What is it city?

48:40 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's City twenty twenty four mix or whatever. It's

48:44 Speaker 5: not new, but it's new or oh.

48:46 Speaker 4: That would be.

48:47 Speaker 5: It's probably something we haven't heard. Yeah, it's actually out

48:49 Speaker 5: the R five VP. Oh I mean uh Grimwork Radio EP.

48:54 Speaker 4: Oh I found it? Yeah yeah, oh cool. Yeah, let's

48:57 Speaker 4: give this. Yeah, I haven't heard this. Let's give this

48:59 Speaker 4: s spend if you're just joining us, we do have

49:01 Speaker 4: grim Rock here with us, live in studio. He's on tour.

49:03 Speaker 4: He's gonna be playing tonight in Nashua at the Spot.

49:07 Speaker 4: But I have not heard this. Let's give this a spin.

49:09 Speaker 4: This is grim Rock City, the twenty twenty four version. Here,

49:12 Speaker 4: it is.

49:29 Speaker 3: Just na road to Ben.

49:40 Speaker 7: I'm going down now.

49:52 Speaker 2: Waiting now you come around.

50:27 Speaker 10: Not kill me.

50:31 Speaker 3: Everything now, Just why.

50:39 Speaker 2: You can't say how pa.

50:45 Speaker 10: Roll with the traffic.

50:49 Speaker 2: Let's just not enough to laugh the bustle on the page.

51:05 Speaker 4: Yes, well that is cool. That is City, the twenty

52:24 Speaker 4: twenty four version. That is Grimrock and he is here

52:27 Speaker 4: with us live in studio. He's going to be playing

52:29 Speaker 4: tonight at the spot in Nashua. Really looking forward to

52:33 Speaker 4: that along with Melted Chapsticks and now it's gonna be

52:37 Speaker 4: very cool. Show is at eight pm, ten dollars cover,

52:40 Speaker 4: but it is all ages, no alcohol, Demons at the Disco.

52:43 Speaker 4: That is the name of the show tonight. I like

52:47 Speaker 4: that name. That'd be a good name for a band,

52:49 Speaker 4: Demons at the Disco. Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, so yeah,

52:54 Speaker 4: that'll be cool. Oh so you were saying while we

52:58 Speaker 4: were off air, while we were playing that song, that

53:01 Speaker 4: the video because I really liked the video for that,

53:03 Speaker 4: because I love images of city skylines and all that

53:05 Speaker 4: always have, especially at night, And you said that was

53:07 Speaker 4: made by Lewis. Is a Tivvy or tivy?

53:10 Speaker 5: It's tvvy.

53:10 Speaker 4: It is Tivvy. He was on the show with us

53:13 Speaker 4: like maybe three or four years ago. It was definitely

53:16 Speaker 4: when we were at the old studio. Of course, he's

53:18 Speaker 4: in the UK, so it was remote, right, But you

53:20 Speaker 4: were saying, he's deployed right now. Yeah, he's actually deployed

53:23 Speaker 4: right now, so in in Poland. You said, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah,

53:27 Speaker 4: I remember him talking about that, that he was in

53:28 Speaker 4: the military. But also just such a such a good

53:31 Speaker 4: musician too. Oh yeah, really really like his stuff and

53:34 Speaker 4: he was he was great to talk to. Now, as

53:37 Speaker 4: far as as far as studio releases, what's next for you?

53:40 Speaker 4: Because you're always writing, right You're it seems like you're

53:42 Speaker 4: always writing and recording.

53:43 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I got stuff. Fuck out kind of things

53:46 Speaker 5: I have, like I couldn't say him a like twenty

53:48 Speaker 5: five starter tracks or something, Oh my god, fished through. Yeah,

53:51 Speaker 5: and you know, I'm trying to put like a good

53:54 Speaker 5: good list together for this Cast of Shadow album, you

53:58 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Yeah, it's actually gonna be a

53:59 Speaker 5: full while, Okay, any end and I'm gonna go out

54:03 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna go out on a limb. You know,

54:04 Speaker 5: I wanted d R five to be ten or twelve tracks,

54:06 Speaker 5: but I think this is gonna be the one that's

54:08 Speaker 5: gonna be ten or twelve tracks. Okay, Yeah, I got

54:11 Speaker 5: I got enough starters that I can I can just

54:13 Speaker 5: go back and and look through and you know, shape

54:17 Speaker 5: a sound for the album, you know what I mean?

54:19 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, outstanding? Well, so, uh oh, time is short?

54:27 Speaker 4: Where should people go online to keep up with everything

54:30 Speaker 4: that you're doing?

54:30 Speaker 5: I would go to grim rockandroll dot com I'll spell

54:33 Speaker 5: it out, rock and roll, A and y Grim rock

54:36 Speaker 5: and Roll, get dot com you go everywhere from there, okay,

54:39 Speaker 5: and if you do the AT symbol Grim rock and Roll,

54:42 Speaker 5: I'll spell it out. You'd find me everywhere that way

54:44 Speaker 5: on social media's and YouTube.

54:46 Speaker 4: All right, outstanding, outstanding. So again just to remind everybody

54:50 Speaker 4: tonight eight pm at if you are listening live on Saturday,

54:54 Speaker 4: of course May thirtieth, Grim Rock opening for the Melted

54:57 Speaker 4: Chap six at the Spot. It is in Nashua, New Hampshire.

55:01 Speaker 4: It is all ages ten dollars cover and please come

55:04 Speaker 4: say hello. Of course we'll be there. Jenny and I

55:08 Speaker 4: will be there. Sounds like Eleanor will be there, so

55:09 Speaker 4: that's cool. Hopefully Andrea is there too, and no, I'm

55:12 Speaker 4: sure it'll be a great and like I said, it'll

55:14 Speaker 4: be our first time there too, so it'll be it'll

55:16 Speaker 4: be wonderful to finally see what what they've done with

55:18 Speaker 4: the place and what they're doing.

55:20 Speaker 5: So I'm excited. Look, it looks super really excited about

55:23 Speaker 5: the menu too.

55:24 Speaker 10: Oh really yeah, yeah, I like all kinds are really

55:26 Speaker 10: cool coffees and seasons.

55:28 Speaker 5: Oh okay, I'm excited.

55:29 Speaker 4: About that oh good, very very good, excellent.

55:32 Speaker 10: Always check out the Mosaic Are Collective. The next opening

55:35 Speaker 10: is on June thirteenth, the Human Canvas from five to

55:40 Speaker 10: seven pm, and that's actually going to be at our

55:42 Speaker 10: new location on Chessnut Street. We are expanding the gallery.

55:46 Speaker 10: We're really excited about this, so definitely come on down

55:49 Speaker 10: and check it out. And as usual, you can always

55:51 Speaker 10: keep up with my good troubles at Gencoffee dot com.

55:54 Speaker 4: J E N N C O F f uy dot com.

55:57 Speaker 4: Well very good, and of course you can find me

55:59 Speaker 4: at Matt Connor t dot and also check out the

56:01 Speaker 4: new site Matt connorton unleashed dot com for even more

56:05 Speaker 4: content and the searchable archive of the show. You can

56:08 Speaker 4: find our previous conversations with Grimrock there as well. So

56:13 Speaker 4: uh so we're looking really looking forward tonight. This will

56:16 Speaker 4: be great, Grimrock, Thank you again so much.

56:18 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you. I really appreciate you the opportunities that

56:21 Speaker 5: you've given me and to be here. It's just it's

56:24 Speaker 5: like the cherry on top of the icing of the

56:26 Speaker 5: cake or whatever, you know, Oh wonderful, appreciated.

56:28 Speaker 4: Absolutely personal, and if you miss any part of today's show,

56:32 Speaker 4: it'll be up in just a little bit at wm

56:34 Speaker 4: andhradio dot org and at my website Matt Connorton dot

56:37 Speaker 4: com and of course Matt Connorton Unleashed dot com. And

56:40 Speaker 4: I was saying about closing the segment with Haunted. What

56:43 Speaker 4: do you think?

56:44 Speaker 5: There you go?

56:44 Speaker 4: We didn't play that one yet, right, You do have

56:46 Speaker 4: a lot of music. Yeah, let's play this one. This

56:48 Speaker 4: is a good one. This is Haunted from Grimrock. And uh,

56:52 Speaker 4: we'll talk to you a little bit later. Bye, everybody, No.

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