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Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-18-26 hour 1
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Speaker 9: Hey, welcome everybody, here we go. It is that time
Speaker 9: again Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the
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Speaker 9: for the full archive of the show. Today is Saturday,
Speaker 9: July eighteen, twenty twenty six. That opening song was called
Speaker 9: Goodbye by the great Sean McCarthy. And that's a little
Speaker 9: teaser for you because Sean is going to be our
Speaker 9: guest later in the show, in the third hour. Today.
Speaker 9: He's got a brand new documentary which I watched the
Speaker 9: other night, all about his career. Really really interesting. It's
Speaker 9: called Resilience and Sacrifice. And I interviewed Sean for the
Speaker 9: first time. I don't even want to think about how
Speaker 9: many years ago it was. It was a very long time.
Speaker 9: It might have been like literally like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 9: I interviewed him on another show that I have called
Speaker 9: Local Outbreak. But today he's going to be here with
Speaker 9: us live on Matt connorton Unleashed. He will be joining
Speaker 9: us via Microsoft Teams in the third hour. So I
Speaker 9: cannot wait to talk to Sean. But that's one of
Speaker 9: his great tracks, and we're gonna play some more of
Speaker 9: his music later, of course, and in the third hour
Speaker 9: when we interview him. But his documentary is really good.
Speaker 9: It's called Resilience and Sacrifice. I recommend it and I
Speaker 9: cannot wait to talk to him about it. I have
Speaker 9: a lot of questions and my voice even appears at
Speaker 9: one point. There's a little you know, only for a
Speaker 9: few seconds, but you hear my voice from the original
Speaker 9: interview that I did with him all those many years ago.
Speaker 9: It might literally have been fifteen years ago. Oh my god,
Speaker 9: the time time goes quickly. But we do have an
Speaker 9: exciting show for you coming up. In just a few minutes,
Speaker 9: we're gonna be talking with Johnny Couch, who is a
Speaker 9: real New Yorker by the way, from the New York,
Speaker 9: New Jersey area. I cannot wait to speak with him.
Speaker 9: We're gonna play one of his songs in just a moment.
Speaker 9: And then in the second hour today we have ex
Speaker 9: Animal from Texas, and they've got a really cool sound.
Speaker 9: I've been excited. We're supposed to have them on the
Speaker 9: show recently, and there was a bit of a miscommunication,
Speaker 9: so misunderstanding perhaps might be a better term. But but
Speaker 9: they will be with us today in the second hour,
Speaker 9: and I can't wait for that. That's gonna be really cool.
Speaker 9: So we have an exciting show. The ceiling Fan is on,
Speaker 9: Thank you, Peter White. The ceiling Fan is on in
Speaker 9: the studio today, which I'm very happy about because although
Speaker 9: it's you know, it's not as hot this weekend as
Speaker 9: it has been, but I did see an air quality alert.
Speaker 9: Currently the air quality is going to continue to be awful.
Speaker 9: I don't know. Again, you know, we have people who
Speaker 9: listen online from all over the place, but where we
Speaker 9: are here, and I guess in a lot of not
Speaker 9: only the Northeast, but in the Midwest, upper Midwest. Of course,
Speaker 9: they've had some days where the sky has been literally
Speaker 9: yellow and the sun has been like this sort of orange.
Speaker 9: It's been very, very strange because of you know, Canada
Speaker 9: is on fire, and that's become a regular thing. I
Speaker 9: think every summer now Canada is on fire, but this
Speaker 9: year it seems to be a bit worse than usual
Speaker 9: because I don't remember ever seeing anything like we saw
Speaker 9: a couple of days in a row this past week
Speaker 9: where the sky literally was sort of this yellow. I mean,
Speaker 9: you know, haese, I've seen hazy skies before, but nothing
Speaker 9: like this. And and and the air is so bad,
Speaker 9: like I could literally taste it at one point, you know,
Speaker 9: can't really smell it because of my sinuses, but I
Speaker 9: can taste it. It gets that bad oddly enough, not
Speaker 9: that this is a bad thing, I'm happy about this,
Speaker 9: but my lungs have handled it really well. I do
Speaker 9: have asthma, and usually when the air quality is this poor,
Speaker 9: I might be hitting the inhaler a little bit now
Speaker 9: and then, but I haven't had to use the inhaler
Speaker 9: once since this current wave of smoke has begun to
Speaker 9: waft down from Canada, or as I like to think
Speaker 9: of it, northern Michigan. But so I'm holding up okay,
Speaker 9: and I hope you all are too, but please be careful,
Speaker 9: you know. I see I see these days where the
Speaker 9: air quality is so bad that this, like I said,
Speaker 9: the sky is yellow, and I see people out there running,
Speaker 9: you know, jogging and doing other things outside where they're
Speaker 9: spending an an order amount of time outside in that weather,
Speaker 9: well not weather, but in that air that is so toxic,
Speaker 9: so poisonous, when all that smoke is coming down, and
Speaker 9: I would just say, if you can possibly help it,
Speaker 9: please don't do that, because it's very, very bad for you,
Speaker 9: and it may even be bad for you in ways
Speaker 9: that you don't notice in the moment. Maybe you're breathing
Speaker 9: as fine and you don't think there's a problem, but
Speaker 9: the stuff is getting into your lungs. That you know
Speaker 9: you might have to deal with later on, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, So please, if you can help it,
Speaker 9: when we get an air quality alert, just try not
Speaker 9: to be outside for more than you have. I know
Speaker 9: it's hard this time of year. Obviously, people like to
Speaker 9: do things, you know, especially things like camping and boating
Speaker 9: and fishing and all that. I mean, I don't do
Speaker 9: any of that. I always say, And anyone who knows
Speaker 9: me personally knows this about me. I'm probably the least
Speaker 9: outdoorsy human being you'll ever meet. I don't do any
Speaker 9: of those things, not even because of the poor air
Speaker 9: quality in the summertime when the Canada is on fire,
Speaker 9: but because I'm terrified of deer ticks. That's a big
Speaker 9: problem in the Northeast. You know, these deer ticks they
Speaker 9: carry they carry lime disease. You end up with lime disease.
Speaker 9: Who wants to be stuck with that for their your life?
Speaker 9: And that's like, and you know, I'm not even kidding
Speaker 9: when I say like I am legitimately, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 9: I try to be kind of funny about it. You know,
Speaker 9: I don't like the outdoors. I prefer concrete and steel.
Speaker 9: But I'm only half joking. I really am legitimately terrified
Speaker 9: of the idea of being, you know, coming into contact
Speaker 9: with a tick and then ending up with lime disease.
Speaker 9: I personally have known quite a few people who've had
Speaker 9: to deal with that. And the thing about lime disease,
Speaker 9: from what I understand, if you get it and you're
Speaker 9: diagnosed with it, or like with so many things southwise,
Speaker 9: early detection is the key. If you get it and
Speaker 9: you're diagnosed with it, they can early if you're if
Speaker 9: you're diagnosed with it very early, they can knock it out.
Speaker 9: They can try to knock it out with some pretty
Speaker 9: heavy antibiotics. But if you don't catch it early enough,
Speaker 9: well then you're just screwed because you're stuck with it.
Speaker 9: You're stuck with it for the rest of your life.
Speaker 9: And then it becomes just all about managing it. And
Speaker 9: I guess it can be managed, but wouldn't you rather
Speaker 9: just not have it? So that's that's my whole thing.
Speaker 9: So I don't go out into the woods. I've never
Speaker 9: I've literally never been camping in my life. In my
Speaker 9: entire life, I've never been camping, and I just don't
Speaker 9: want to and it's not gonna happen now. I went
Speaker 9: fishing once when I was a kid. My uncle took
Speaker 9: me fishing, and I'd never been so bored in my life,
Speaker 9: you know, because you're literally sitting there waiting for something
Speaker 9: to happen. I guess it's peaceful and tranquil and all that,
Speaker 9: but who has time for peace and tranquility?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 9: We are joined by Johnny Couch. So what we're gonna
Speaker 9: go He's joining on us online via restream. So what
Speaker 9: we're gonna do right now? We're gonna go ahead and
Speaker 9: play the new single I love this. This is called
Speaker 9: He's got a unique sound. I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 9: talking to him. I love this. It's called Where the
Speaker 9: Sidewalk Ends. And we're gonna talk to him all about it.
Speaker 9: And then we have another track. We're gonna play his
Speaker 9: first single, Overwhelmed at the end of our conversation. But
Speaker 9: I am excited for this. We're gonna talk to Johnny
Speaker 9: Couch in just a minute, but first, let's listen to
Speaker 9: this track. This is from the new album. This is
Speaker 9: the title track from the album Where the Sidewalk Ends.
Speaker 9: This is Johnny Couch.
Speaker 7: Long God Overcoat on your back across the street. I
Speaker 7: catch a glance. I'm back almost. I slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 7: So he give me half a chance, say you say
Speaker 7: what you will.
Speaker 10: Won't know nothing until we know where where sib of
Speaker 10: don do you know what you desire?
Speaker 5: You got.
Speaker 8: Where?
Speaker 11: Ciald long lost the only night real Well, it depends
Speaker 11: how you feel, soaked up in my blood, start to crash,
Speaker 11: trying to take out the trash.
Speaker 7: Saying the gunner saying up chair.
Speaker 3: Well, no, nothing unless we know where.
Speaker 5: Where the silk is? Do you know what you desire?
Speaker 8: Cousing your election? Where the siwalk?
Speaker 5: That's where I'm mad, nanymous.
Speaker 8: Where the side where we get from the friends.
Speaker 9: That is catchy as hell. That is where the sidewalk
Speaker 9: ends from. Johnny Couch and we have him on the
Speaker 9: on the line with us via restream.
Speaker 3: Johnny, are you there, I'm here, can you hear me?
Speaker 9: Absolutely? Welcome to the show, my friend. It's it's great
Speaker 9: to have you on. I've been excited about this because
Speaker 9: I you know, I listened to the whole album via
Speaker 9: the SoundCloud link that we received, and really good. But
Speaker 9: I love that track. I love the bassline and that
Speaker 9: I love the groove. I love everything about it, just
Speaker 9: so catchy, kind of reminds me of you know, Brian
Speaker 9: Faery roxy music. Oh great, just really really good. Where
Speaker 9: are you from, by.
Speaker 3: The way, I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. Oh okay, but
Speaker 3: I've been a New Yorker for about about twenty years now.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, did you pick I trying to detect it?
Speaker 9: Did you pick up the accent at all? Because obviously
Speaker 9: a couple decades. I mean, is that something you do
Speaker 9: you learn to talk like a New Yorker or do
Speaker 9: you still feel that you sound like you're from England?
Speaker 3: No, I don't really. I don't really have the accent
Speaker 3: at all. It's just something I start using if I
Speaker 3: say I've been in New Yorker. But no, I don't
Speaker 3: really have the accent.
Speaker 9: Gotcha, gotcha. I want to know more, of course about
Speaker 9: you know, not only out the album, but the single
Speaker 9: where the Sidewalk Ends. I know the album comes out
Speaker 9: July twenty fourth, Is that correct?
Speaker 3: That's coretrct It comes out this coming Friday, this Friday
Speaker 3: twenty fourth.
Speaker 9: That is correct, outstanding? You know obviously when I hear Friday,
Speaker 9: when I hear that phrase where the Sidewalk Ends. You know,
Speaker 9: my first thought was when I was a kid, I
Speaker 9: had the shel Silverstein Book of Poetry, and that, for
Speaker 9: some reason, the cover of that book too, It always
Speaker 9: sticks very vividly in my mind. But but but tell
Speaker 9: me about the inspiration for that, for the for the
Speaker 9: song and for the album, and why you decided to
Speaker 9: call it Where the Sidewalk Ends.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny. I am a big Shell
Speaker 3: Silverstein fan. I mean, Shell Silverstein is is just brilliant
Speaker 3: in my opinion, and all of all of his work.
Speaker 3: But the funny thing is, I was writing this song
Speaker 3: and I am a big fan of of film noir,
Speaker 3: fifties kind of film noir detective movies, and also even
Speaker 3: later period when it went into color, they called it
Speaker 3: neo noir movies like Chinatown or Body Heat and all
Speaker 3: of those types of all of those types of film noir,
Speaker 3: neo noir types of movies. And so I was writing
Speaker 3: this song, and I was looking for some inspiration, and
Speaker 3: I was in the middle of writing it, and I
Speaker 3: did actually come upon a movie called Where the Sidewalk Ends,
Speaker 3: and I watched it. I watched it because I watched
Speaker 3: these movies. Sometimes I'll just randomly watch a nineteen fifties movie,
Speaker 3: and this movie's from nineteen fifty and it's called Where
Speaker 3: the Sidewalk Ends. It predates the Shell Silverstein work, oh I,
Speaker 3: and I really loved it. And then I went back
Speaker 3: to working on this song and I thought, you know what,
Speaker 3: that would actually be a good title for this song.
Speaker 3: And so then I started to incorporate that into it
Speaker 3: and it just all kind of fell into place, and
Speaker 3: I put the pieces of the puzzle, so to speak,
Speaker 3: together as I was, you know, once I had that
Speaker 3: song title, I kind of wrote the rest of the
Speaker 3: lyrics from there.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's it's really good. The Uh I'm curious
Speaker 9: on the album, So what do you do on the album?
Speaker 9: And I mean, is it all you or do you
Speaker 9: have other musicians on there with you? Or because I
Speaker 9: know you start you started out as a drummer right
Speaker 9: in the New York City scene.
Speaker 3: That's that's right. I was a drummer for many, many
Speaker 3: years in the New York scene and some bands that
Speaker 3: were touring. Yeah, and I had a punk band called
Speaker 3: The Choke and so yeah, so I do play drums
Speaker 3: on all my records. So on the record. What you're
Speaker 3: hearing on that track, for instance, is I'm playing all
Speaker 3: the drums. I'm playing a lot of the keyboard, not
Speaker 3: all of it actually, because usually on the songs I record,
Speaker 3: I'll play the drums, I'll play the keyboards, and then
Speaker 3: I'll have a producer or someone I'm working with will
Speaker 3: play bass and guitar. And on this track, this track
Speaker 3: is actually there's a few people on it. It's me,
Speaker 3: it's this producer in Texas, and it's this other friend
Speaker 3: of ours that played some percussion. So the producer in Texas,
Speaker 3: Jonas Willison, he's the one that played that slamming bass
Speaker 3: line that you hear on Oh oh okay, Yeah. He
Speaker 3: just really put together this great bass line while we
Speaker 3: were tracking it, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 3: took on a whole new life once he put that
Speaker 3: bass line down and I did the drums and the keyboards,
Speaker 3: and then he added more keyboards, and then we turned
Speaker 3: it into like this whole kind of like nineteen seventies
Speaker 3: Georgia Moroder inspired kind of peace because we added these
Speaker 3: swirlings and claviers that you can hear in the synthesizers
Speaker 3: that you can hear in the chorus. Yeah, and a
Speaker 3: lot like what you might hear in like a song
Speaker 3: that Georgia Moroder did with Donna Summer.
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I'm a bass player myself, so you know,
Speaker 9: my ear tends to be tends to be drawn to that.
Speaker 9: But I'm sorry, what did you say? His name was
Speaker 9: again the producer.
Speaker 3: So his name is Jonas Wilson. Jonas Wilson, and he's brilliant.
Speaker 3: He actually it toured with a lot of bands. He
Speaker 3: toured with The Heartless Bastards for a few years, and
Speaker 3: he's toured with Alejandro Escovedo, who's a really well known
Speaker 3: musician and he has many years as a touring musician
Speaker 3: but also as a producer and engineer, and he was
Speaker 3: just a great collaborator for this track. He did the guitars,
Speaker 3: the bass, and extra since I brought in my original
Speaker 3: demo with the synthesizers and drum machine, and then the
Speaker 3: first thing we did is we recorded the drums. I
Speaker 3: played real drums on it, and then we kept a
Speaker 3: lot of my sins from the demo, we added more
Speaker 3: and then he played some bass and guitar, and then
Speaker 3: we had a friend come in and played tambourine.
Speaker 9: Now I'm curious, how did you come to work with him?
Speaker 9: Because obviously where you are in New York, you know,
Speaker 9: you're surrounded by so much incredible talent. I mean, that's
Speaker 9: really the well. I guess what is the musical capital
Speaker 9: of the country would depend on who you ask. Some
Speaker 9: would say Nashville, But obviously where you are, you know,
Speaker 9: in New York, I mean I would I would consider
Speaker 9: that the music capital of the country in terms of
Speaker 9: how much talent is there. So how did you come
Speaker 9: to work with someone in Texas?
Speaker 3: That's a great question. So I have this other great producer.
Speaker 3: His name's Peter Maverck Georgis, and he's also a great producer,
Speaker 3: and he and I did some shows. We took the
Speaker 3: Johnny Couch Band Show on the road and we did
Speaker 3: some shows in Texas. We played we played Denton, we
Speaker 3: played Fort Worth, we played Austin, And at the Austin show,
Speaker 3: we ended up being recommended to Jonas Wilson became recommended
Speaker 3: to us as a keyboard player, as a synth player,
Speaker 3: and so he joined us on the show in Austin
Speaker 3: and we met him there and he was just this
Speaker 3: great guy, and we had a great time with him,
Speaker 3: and and then I just kept in touch with him,
Speaker 3: you know, over the years, because that gig and Austin
Speaker 3: was in twenty nineteen, and so I kept in touch
Speaker 3: with them, and then eventually I said, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: we should do a couple of tracks together, and so
Speaker 3: we ended up. I ended up doing four tracks with
Speaker 3: him that are on this upcoming album. Four songs that
Speaker 3: are with Jonas, and Where the Sidewalk Ends is obviously
Speaker 3: the main one because that's the title track single release.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just kept in touch with him and
Speaker 3: he added that incredible baseline, and then the whole song
Speaker 3: took on this life of its own in the studio
Speaker 3: and we started adding more and more ingredients and it
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun putting it together.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it sounds like it. It's a fun like
Speaker 9: I said, I listened to the whole thing on SoundCloud.
Speaker 9: It's a fun album. So now the four tracks that
Speaker 9: Jonas Wilson is not on, are those done with the
Speaker 9: other producer that you mentioned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's actually quite a number of producers because
Speaker 3: the producer that I did my last record with, Peter
Speaker 3: Maverick George's he's fanatic he lives in Georgia now and
Speaker 3: and I did two records with him, but it's hard
Speaker 3: for me to always go down to Georgia. So what
Speaker 3: we did was we and I have some friends here
Speaker 3: locally in Jersey City that I also work with. So
Speaker 3: this record is actually four tracks are produced by Jonas
Speaker 3: down in Texas.
Speaker 6: Uh to.
Speaker 3: Two of the tracks with Peter, my my buddy in Georgia,
Speaker 3: and then there's two there's four other tracks, two of
Speaker 3: them with a producer here in Jersey City and the
Speaker 3: other two with a producer also here in Jersey City,
Speaker 3: but with a studio and Hoboken. So the songs were
Speaker 3: recorded and basically Hoboken, Jersey City, Atlanta, and Texas. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's four producers on this record, which is which is
Speaker 3: not the way I usually do things, but it's just
Speaker 3: kind of worked out that that way. You know, a
Speaker 3: few of the songs were released as singles first digitally, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to include them on the vinyl release.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a Greatest Hits of like
Speaker 3: a few songs are released plus seven brand new tracks. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm excited about it.
Speaker 9: Your first solo album, Mystery Man which was in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 9: If I'm not mistaken, that was that also with multiple
Speaker 9: producers or did you have a different approach with that one?
Speaker 3: Right, So, my first solo album was actually twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: although oh well, it's called Animal Instinct and it's also online,
Speaker 3: but it's actually an ep so that maybe that's why
Speaker 3: it's probably not showing up as a full album, cause gotcha, Okay,
Speaker 3: So online it's an EPA, it's a five song but
Speaker 3: I did release it as a five song twelve inch
Speaker 3: vinyl release and it's five songs. Animal Instinct is lead.
Speaker 3: That was produced by Peter Maverick, Georgia's all in Savannah, Georgia, Okay.
Speaker 3: Then we followed it up with Mystery Man, which is
Speaker 3: released the end of twenty nineteen. That was a ten
Speaker 3: song release, also on twelve inch vinyl, full album ten songs,
Speaker 3: also produced by Peter Maverick George's in Savannah, Georgia, Okay,
Speaker 3: at Dollhouse Productions. And then he moved to Atlanta, and
Speaker 3: then we did like I said, we did two songs
Speaker 3: on the new record with Peter, four with Jonas and Texas,
Speaker 3: and two with a couple more producers. Actually overwhelmed, produced
Speaker 3: by this guy John Chin who lives here in Jersey City.
Speaker 9: Oh okay, okay, Now when you're doing an album that way,
Speaker 9: because obviously that's not how you did your previous work,
Speaker 9: did it ever concern you at all? Like, did you
Speaker 9: ever think, what if, you know, having all these different producers,
Speaker 9: what if it's not the final work doesn't seem cohesive,
Speaker 9: of what if it doesn't all sound like it goes together?
Speaker 9: I mean not that, I mean for me as a listener,
Speaker 9: Like I said, I listened to a whole thing on
Speaker 9: on the SoundCloud link that that was sent to us,
Speaker 9: and you know that isn't available publicly yet obviously, and
Speaker 9: and to me it sounds like one you know, like
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be able to tell like it sounds like
Speaker 9: one cohesive work. But I'm curious if, as you're making
Speaker 9: the album did that was that ever a concern for you?
Speaker 9: Or were you not worried about that part of it,
Speaker 9: that that maybe with all these different people involved, that
Speaker 9: might sound, you know, like it's going in too many directions,
Speaker 9: you know it.
Speaker 3: It was not a concern, And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: It's because at one point I did this one track
Speaker 3: with one of the producers here and his names as
Speaker 3: I mentioned, John Chin, and we did we did a song.
Speaker 3: It's there's a song that's not on the record. It's
Speaker 3: called found Out You're a Zombie. Yeah, and it was played.
Speaker 3: It's actually been played on Serious XM. Peter is Arimba
Speaker 3: from the Flesh Tones. He's played it on his show
Speaker 3: on sis XM. And because he likes to play scary, spooky,
Speaker 3: Halloween e kind of songs, and it's called found Out
Speaker 3: You're a Zombie. So anyways, I did this song just
Speaker 3: kind of as a joke, and we did it kind
Speaker 3: of as a joke for Halloween because he's he's an
Speaker 3: old buddy I went to college with and he was
Speaker 3: in town and he said hey. I said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: could I do a song with you? And we recorded
Speaker 3: it and it ended up being great and everyone loves
Speaker 3: it and there's a lot of people it's their favorite
Speaker 3: song to hear live. And it's crazy because it just
Speaker 3: it sounded so great that from that moment on, I
Speaker 3: wasn't worried at all about about putting the record together,
Speaker 3: you know, with a combination of him, Peter Jonas and
Speaker 3: then there's a fourth producer Dan Haig, who's also fantastic.
Speaker 3: But we actually had John Chin mix and the those recordings,
Speaker 3: So so John was kind of uh, you know, I
Speaker 3: had I had a good enough team that I wasn't
Speaker 3: worried about any of that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. And what what transpired
Speaker 9: between because obviously it's seven years between Mystery Man and
Speaker 9: Where the Sidewalk Ends? Uh did you did you intend
Speaker 9: it for for it to be that long? I mean no,
Speaker 9: as we get older, you know, we we kind of
Speaker 9: start to realize the time passes quicker than we know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, you could say seven years,
Speaker 3: but to me, it feels like, you know, it almost
Speaker 3: like COVID was. It was really COVID was in there,
Speaker 3: and that made it really hard to accomplish things. But
Speaker 3: because you couldn't really collaborate as much with people, I
Speaker 3: guess I could have done some records during COVID where
Speaker 3: I you know, uh, you know, but I like to
Speaker 3: get together with people, yeah and stuff. So anyways, I
Speaker 3: did do a side project during COVID with a guy
Speaker 3: called Greaser Phase, and so that was kind of like
Speaker 3: that was kind of a record we produced more that
Speaker 3: way where we'd set tracks back and forth. He didn't
Speaker 3: actually get back get together in person. We just sent
Speaker 3: things back and forth and did a record that way.
Speaker 3: But No, to answer the question, I didn't intend for
Speaker 3: it to be so long between releases. It kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, the music industry has changed so much that
Speaker 3: people aren't really expected artists aren't really expected to release
Speaker 3: full albums so much anymore. And so what I was
Speaker 3: doing instead was I was just releasing a single heir
Speaker 3: in there once in a while, you know, I was
Speaker 3: keeping my music out there. And then I'd released a
Speaker 3: new single, and then I'd released a new single, and
Speaker 3: then you know, and you know, I was keeping active
Speaker 3: and keeping myself out there that way and not even
Speaker 3: really thinking about that. But enough time passed that I thought,
Speaker 3: you know what, I need to put out another full
Speaker 3: length and you know, and and I believe there's a
Speaker 3: little bit more time than I wanted to pass between
Speaker 3: the two.
Speaker 9: It's interesting how even now in twenty twenty six, how
Speaker 9: much COVID still comes up on the show, and how
Speaker 9: you know, the the interruption and the disruption that it created,
Speaker 9: that it caused in the careers of so many people,
Speaker 9: and not only that, but also this weird sort of
Speaker 9: time distortion thing.
Speaker 3: It's you know, yeah, I mean that. The exciting thing
Speaker 3: about COVID was I put out Mystery Man, and I
Speaker 3: was able to promote it a little bit and then
Speaker 3: and then when I would have really done an even
Speaker 3: harder push, then it was lockdown and I wasn't able
Speaker 3: to push it as hard with tour dates and stuff.
Speaker 3: So yep, that's why I'm excited about this new record.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a bunch of stuff now to promote this
Speaker 3: and some touring, so it's a little bit better of
Speaker 3: a situation. They'll be able to push it harder.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, So, when you were playing drums in you know,
Speaker 9: twenty years ago in New York and in punk bands,
Speaker 9: did you always kind of have Was it always your
Speaker 9: goal to become eventually a solo artist and do what
Speaker 9: you're doing now? Or did is like if you if
Speaker 9: you kind of go back in time and think about
Speaker 9: yourself back then, would you have foreseen all of this
Speaker 9: or or did you think at the time, you know,
Speaker 9: this is you know, I'm a drummer, I play in
Speaker 9: a punk band, and you know I'm in the moment
Speaker 9: and this is it. I mean, was this always a
Speaker 9: goal for you to get to this point.
Speaker 3: No, and uh, you know, I wish that it was,
Speaker 3: actually because it would have been cool to start this
Speaker 3: solo career and the earlier on. Yeah, it would have
Speaker 3: been interesting to do that. But I was really into
Speaker 3: being a drummer. That was my that was my vibe,
Speaker 3: that was my identity. I was really into it. And so,
Speaker 3: you know, at the time, I was really into being
Speaker 3: a songwriter because I ended up being in a band
Speaker 3: with a buddy of mine, Eric, and we had a
Speaker 3: couple of other great people in that band. It was
Speaker 3: called The Choke, Yeah, and we ended up co writing
Speaker 3: most of the material, So it was it was really
Speaker 3: it became important to me to be a songwriter, even
Speaker 3: more than the front man. At that point I was
Speaker 3: I was writing, co writing all the songs and playing
Speaker 3: drums and even kind of managing a lot of that
Speaker 3: band and do the day to day and the booking.
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, and then I ended up doing
Speaker 3: that even in another band after The Choke, I ended
Speaker 3: up co writing a ton of material, and so it
Speaker 3: just became important to me to be a songwriter. But
Speaker 3: then I kind of finally realized later on that I
Speaker 3: wanted to sing sing these songs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, know that makes sense. Yeah, of course
Speaker 9: I'm curious too about the album artwork. Uh this says
Speaker 9: here it was created by and forget me, I'm not familiar,
Speaker 9: but New York artist and Moncus. Am I saying that correctly?
Speaker 3: I think it's pronounced monchies mon.
Speaker 9: Cheese, moncheese. Okay, Yeah, and I guess I guess she's
Speaker 9: a big deal, right from what I from what I've read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's very accomplished because she's uh an artist that's
Speaker 3: had work featured in some kind of iconic books about
Speaker 3: women in rock. Okay, at least there's one very well
Speaker 3: known book. And uh so she's she's had her work published,
Speaker 3: you know, and she has also worked with music before.
Speaker 3: She's done work before with bands. This isn't really like
Speaker 3: public knowledge, but but she but she, I believe, used
Speaker 3: to work with bands in Rockchester and do like some
Speaker 3: posters for them, and used to do a lot of
Speaker 3: work with rock bands. And so when I found that out,
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, well, that's cool. And then when I
Speaker 3: saw some of her work for the Women in Rock book,
Speaker 3: and I saw her her drawing of Tina Turner, and
Speaker 3: she had one of Sinead O'Connor, and she was already
Speaker 3: someone who was used to drawing rock rock artists and
Speaker 3: doing a great job of it. And the work I
Speaker 3: saw was incredible, and I thought, well, I'd be honored
Speaker 3: to have her draw me on this album cover. And
Speaker 3: so she did a wonderful job.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, that's excellent. And I'm also curious
Speaker 9: about the video for where the Sidewalk Ends. This is
Speaker 9: pretty cool. I actually have it pulled up right now.
Speaker 9: I'm taking another look at it, but it looks like
Speaker 9: it looks like it's all it's all outdoors. Where was
Speaker 9: this shot this video?
Speaker 3: So the doctor and I, Richard were on the phone
Speaker 3: and he said, he said, where do you want to
Speaker 3: shoot this? And I said, I don't know. Maybe Jersey
Speaker 3: City is kind of cool. And he said, nah, nah, no,
Speaker 3: we need something a little bit more. I want something
Speaker 3: that looks a little bit more desolate, maybe just like
Speaker 3: empty kind of feeling. And I said, oh, we should
Speaker 3: do it in Red Hook, Brooklyn. It looks like it
Speaker 3: just looks like deserted all the time, you know, And
Speaker 3: and so we so then we met up for a
Speaker 3: beer in Red Hook at this some great bar, I
Speaker 3: forget the name of it, but we went there twice
Speaker 3: and we did a whole brainstorming session of what the
Speaker 3: video should be and how should capture the song and
Speaker 3: how should capture the meaning of the song and all
Speaker 3: of that. And then since we were there, we went
Speaker 3: location scouting, and then while we were location scouting, we luckily,
Speaker 3: luckily came upon Sonny's Bar, which a really famous bar
Speaker 3: in Red Hook. And then, uh so then we were
Speaker 3: able to take part at the festivities at Sonny's. So
Speaker 3: that that was I mean, that wasn't important for the video,
Speaker 3: but it was a they have good good alcohol.
Speaker 9: There, gotcha? Gotcha? So yeah, I'm looking at the credits.
Speaker 9: Richard Jordan was the director, and then who's Who's Alexander
Speaker 9: saris Am I saying that right? Is that that's the
Speaker 9: name of the guy and the other guy in the video?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's a funny story. That's a great story. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Richard is this guy I met at a party
Speaker 3: and he's just this great jovial guy and he's he's
Speaker 3: so cool and he ends up getting he's actually an
Speaker 3: actor as well as a casting director, but he's he's
Speaker 3: had these bit parts and shows like Vinyl that was
Speaker 3: on HBO, and then he was in this new newer
Speaker 3: show that Share Company, I think it's called on HBO
Speaker 3: or one of those channels, and he gets these like
Speaker 3: small little parts. But he's also a casting director. And
Speaker 3: I called him up and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: we need to do a video. And he said, oh,
Speaker 3: we should have someone in it. And so we wanted
Speaker 3: to get someone that was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: a rocker like me, you know.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 3: What's funny is he he put out a casting call
Speaker 3: and he sent me like like fifteen people and I
Speaker 3: was looking at and I was looking at them, and
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well, you know, none of these
Speaker 3: look quite right. They don't necessarily look like musicians that
Speaker 3: much and stuff. And then and then he sent me
Speaker 3: another uh, he sent me another actor, a profile of
Speaker 3: an actor that he that he found on Instagram because
Speaker 3: he put up an Instagram post and the guy, uh.
Speaker 3: He sends it to me and I say, oh, I
Speaker 3: know this guy. This is Alex. It was a guy
Speaker 3: that i'd met at a bar and I was like,
Speaker 3: I've met this guy and I'd only met him once. Yeah,
Speaker 3: only met him once, and and I only but i'd
Speaker 3: met him in the last like two or three months recently. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I only and I met him once, and I said, oh, Richard,
Speaker 3: I know this guy, and this guy is cool. Let's
Speaker 3: just get this guy. And so that was that was
Speaker 3: how he got Alex. Yeah, and then he showed up
Speaker 3: and he was just all like ready to go and
Speaker 3: excited and energetic and he had swagger and yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: It was cool because the idea of the videos, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm supposed to let people draw their
Speaker 3: own conclusion according to the according to the director, but
Speaker 3: it's like, uh, you know, it's almost like he's a
Speaker 3: former version of myself or something, and we're trying to
Speaker 3: or or or at least like a you know, and
Speaker 3: we're trying to heal the relationship or whatever. I don't
Speaker 3: want to get to uh detailed, because it's kind of
Speaker 3: opened interpretation, but you know.
Speaker 9: Sure, sure, absolutely no. I like the video a lot.
Speaker 9: I'm also curious too about it because you mentioned touring.
Speaker 9: How does all all this work live? Because obviously on
Speaker 9: the album, you know, everything's you know, there's a lot there,
Speaker 9: everything's very layered and so forth.
Speaker 3: What what do you do live?
Speaker 9: Do you have a band that plays with you?
Speaker 3: Do you do?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I always play with a live band because you know,
Speaker 3: you need to bring the music. You need to bring
Speaker 3: the music to life, you know, and you need to
Speaker 3: bring it, you know. And Plus I come from the
Speaker 3: rock world, from the punk I was in. I was
Speaker 3: in you know, loud punk bands and loud rock bands,
Speaker 3: and so I believe in puting on a loud rock show.
Speaker 3: And so I always get a great band together. I've
Speaker 3: got a really wonderful band of musicians currently. This great
Speaker 3: guitar player that has been working with me for for
Speaker 3: ten years now. His name's Andy black Sugar and he's
Speaker 3: also last for the last i think four years, played
Speaker 3: in Blondie.
Speaker 9: Oh okay cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and and he's he's just great, great guitar
Speaker 3: player who he plays with me in the New York bandy.
Speaker 3: And then I also have a great drummer, John Weber.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of drummers that I've used depending
Speaker 3: on who's available, but John Weber, Mike Mann's a few
Speaker 3: few different people that have worked with me. And uh uh,
Speaker 3: and you know I have it's great new bass player
Speaker 3: Paoul and this great keyboard player Origin and uh, it's
Speaker 3: it's been really fantastic.
Speaker 9: Is it hard to find the right players who can
Speaker 9: really replicate the sound that you're looking for? Or has
Speaker 9: that been again? You're you're in an area where you know,
Speaker 9: you're surrounded by so much talent, So maybe it's not
Speaker 9: hard at all. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it could be. But but
Speaker 3: I've been around for a long time and some of
Speaker 3: these guys have been playing with me since the beginning,
Speaker 3: and so it's, uh, it usually it usually falls into place. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for the most part, I've had really good luck with that.
Speaker 3: And I've also had a really good luck, Like you know,
Speaker 3: the producers that I mentioned earlier have all been super helpful. So,
Speaker 3: for instance, Peter maver Georgis, when I've gone and played
Speaker 3: down South, he's arranged to have because he's a studio guy,
Speaker 3: he's arranged to have a band play with me down
Speaker 3: South when I've toured down there, and so I have
Speaker 3: this great I have this great Southern band. Same with
Speaker 3: Jonas in Texas. He's had he's put together a band
Speaker 3: for me down in Texas. That was the Texas Band. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we've done two shows down there when I recorded
Speaker 3: down there. I've played Texas a few times in Austin,
Speaker 3: I've done Atlanta and Savannah. And I have this southern
Speaker 3: band that's going to be amazing for this UK tour
Speaker 3: because it's like the two best producers I've ever worked with.
Speaker 3: Peter and Jonas from Texas are coming with me to
Speaker 3: the UK. So I'm gonna have Peter on guitar and
Speaker 3: Jonas on bass. You couldn't ask for a better lineup.
Speaker 3: And then what's even better is I've got these two
Speaker 3: these two other individuals coming with me from the indie
Speaker 3: band Barrel Barrow. They live in Savannah. Their names are
Speaker 3: David and Veronica. Okay, and Veronica is the most amazing
Speaker 3: since keyboard player. She backing vocalist and David is also
Speaker 3: in Barol Barrow with her and he's going to play
Speaker 3: drums on this tour. And so I've got a really
Speaker 3: solid lineup for the UK tour dates.
Speaker 9: Oh that's awesome?
Speaker 3: Good good?
Speaker 9: When is that happening? When do you go to the UK?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So my album release show is coming up this
Speaker 3: Friday in Brooklyn. It's at Sleepwalk July twenty fourth early
Speaker 3: show at seven pm and then then I'm playing at
Speaker 3: the Wonder Bar in Asbury Park which is next to
Speaker 3: Stone Pony, very famous venue, the Wonder Bar. That's August third,
Speaker 3: and then is the UK. Then is the UK and
Speaker 3: the UK tour is August eleven, twelve, thirteen and sixteen,
Speaker 3: and the shows are Nottingham, Hastings, London and Brighton and
Speaker 3: the London shows at the very famous venue of the
Speaker 3: Dublin Castle and we're headlining that. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: Wow kind of our London album release show if you will, yep.
Speaker 3: And yeah, So it's to answer your question, yes, August
Speaker 3: eleventh through sixteen are those dates.
Speaker 9: That's fantastic. Have you toured there before?
Speaker 7: I have?
Speaker 3: Actually I was in that that punk band that Choke,
Speaker 3: and we toured. We we've went to London once and
Speaker 3: we did like five shows in the London area, I
Speaker 3: think once and four or five shows, similar to what
Speaker 3: we're doing now, although now we're touring around so it's
Speaker 3: even better. But yeah, and then the Choke went back
Speaker 3: and later on we went back and we did like
Speaker 3: a whole tour of the entire UK with a with
Speaker 3: a famous band called two famous bands. It was a
Speaker 3: Theater of Hate and Jeane Loves Jezebel and the Choke
Speaker 3: and it was like a really cool, solid touring lineup
Speaker 3: and we played all over the UK. We even played
Speaker 3: in Glasgow. Yeah, it was That was a great tour.
Speaker 9: Oh that's fantastic, that's great. Good good, Well yeah, no,
Speaker 9: I'm coming back to the UK, Matt, excellent. Well we
Speaker 9: do have listeners, We do have listeners over there. Absolutely
Speaker 9: well great, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm out. This show is
Speaker 9: multi continental. I don't know if that's really a word, but.
Speaker 3: That's a word today. No, that's great, I'd say come out.
Speaker 3: We're playing great venues, Billy Bootleggers, Nottingham, the Jenny Lynde
Speaker 3: In in Hastings, Dublin Castle and London Dalton's in Brighton.
Speaker 3: These are great venues, great lineups, everything sorted as far
Speaker 3: as the venues, the lineup, the bands, it's really really
Speaker 3: I have a great artist. There's a great artist songwriter
Speaker 3: in London named Veronica Bianki and she's playing on this
Speaker 3: bill with us at Dublin Castle. And I'm so excited
Speaker 3: because we actually did a show in Brooklyn in twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen together in Brooklyn at this venue, the Broadway, and
Speaker 3: that was amazing. And now I get to play with
Speaker 3: her again in London, so oh fantastic. We're old friends
Speaker 3: and she lives there now, so this is just super
Speaker 3: exciting that the London show is super exciting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh outstanding, excellent, excellent. Well, in a moment when
Speaker 9: we let you go, we're gonna play Overwhelmed, which was
Speaker 9: of course the first single from the album. Anything we
Speaker 9: should know about this before we play it.
Speaker 13: Johnny.
Speaker 3: Overwhelmed is one heck of a cool track that I
Speaker 3: didn't It's actually really cool because Peter. That's another color.
Speaker 3: It's another one that where the producers collaborated because it
Speaker 3: was like, you know, my buddy John Chinn and Jersey
Speaker 3: City here produced it, but we actually had Peter down
Speaker 3: in Georgia play the bass on it. And it's just
Speaker 3: a really cool It's a different flavor for me because
Speaker 3: it's kind of a bouncy, jangly track. In my yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of my songs tend to be more straight
Speaker 3: ahead rocking, you know, straight ahead rocker, kind of power
Speaker 3: pop songs, more like a cheap trick kind of deal.
Speaker 3: But this one, this one's a little bit more bouncing
Speaker 3: and jangling and has more of a maybe even a
Speaker 3: more of a British feel, And I'm really excited about
Speaker 3: it because it's it's a different kind of flavor for me,
Speaker 3: just like the Sidewalk Ends is a little bit different
Speaker 3: for me because it's more more disco even you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: uh and and uh you know. That's that's what I
Speaker 3: what I try to uh, what I try to to
Speaker 3: do to to to define myself. What I try to
Speaker 3: do to define myself as an artist is I try
Speaker 3: to not define myself. I try to go off in
Speaker 3: as many different genres is possible because I don't want
Speaker 3: to be limited to genre. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: stuck in a box. And I want to be able
Speaker 3: to do a song that goes in this direction or
Speaker 3: that direction, or or even blends genres. And that's what
Speaker 3: I really love to do in songwriting is blend genre,
Speaker 3: blends something that maybe a sixties influence blended with an
Speaker 3: eighties or seventies glam influence. Because that's that's what I do,
Speaker 3: That's what I can hopefully do to be unique.
Speaker 9: Right right, No, I think you've accomplished that absolutely, So
Speaker 9: before we let you go and before we play that track.
Speaker 9: Where's the best place for people to go online to
Speaker 9: keep up with all things Johnny Couch? Where should people
Speaker 9: go to keep up with everything you're doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so great. Question Number one, of course is you know,
Speaker 3: is Instagram and so that's Johnny Couch Music, but there's
Speaker 3: no agent, Johnny, So it's Jay j O and why
Speaker 3: c o uh music Johnny Couch Music. And you're gonna
Speaker 3: find me right there on Instagram. And then there's of
Speaker 3: course my website Johnnycatsch dot com has everything and that
Speaker 3: has links all my videos. There's also my YouTube channel
Speaker 3: Johnny Casch YouTube channel where you can see where the
Speaker 3: sidewalk ends the brand new amazing video.
Speaker 9: Yep, yeah, definitely yeah. People should should absolutely check it out.
Speaker 9: Johnny Couch. Thank you so much, my friend. This has
Speaker 9: been wonderful. We're gonna hit that track, so we'll let
Speaker 9: you go for now, but sounds like you got a
Speaker 9: lot of great stuff coming up, so I'm sure we
Speaker 9: will have you back in the future. But thank you
Speaker 9: so much for joining us today.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Matt. It was a real pleasure
Speaker 3: and I really enjoyed speaking with you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 9: Same thanks, Johnny.
Speaker 3: All right, take care, bye bye, take care bye bye.
Speaker 9: All right, that was Johnny Couch. We did play at
Speaker 9: the top of the segment his newest single, Where the
Speaker 9: Sidewalk Ends. But let's play now the first single from
Speaker 9: the album, Where the Sidewalk Ends. This is really good too.
Speaker 9: I like this a lot. This is called overwhelmed. You
Speaker 9: see it my way.
Speaker 3: To bring me down.
Speaker 6: And I want to see, well, Jesus almost reaches this town.
Speaker 5: We're all doing out what you have to say?
Speaker 6: Did the contents name and it was over raining and
Speaker 6: also many.
Speaker 5: Well my own throwing my way and nothing else in it.
Speaker 5: Don't name me, Okay, I'm telling you it's gonna be over.
Speaker 9: You can get the pieces.
Speaker 5: To marry too many side.
Speaker 6: And the end of this aside.
Speaker 3: Because I'm listening to chieve myself.
Speaker 5: N We're all knowing that what he has to say,
Speaker 5: you look at yourself. It was all grain as bad.
Speaker 5: I'm sad a way, well, ok I all of brow
Speaker 5: and I say I'm sills.
Speaker 6: Listen, you know what hate me telling you it's gonna
Speaker 6: be all.
Speaker 5: With a non when you has it saying that you
Speaker 5: it can chance on me. But it was all the
Speaker 5: rain but they changed my wage. But even on that age,
Speaker 5: you said anything so tight. Oh it's so mad understanding
Speaker 5: you go away. I don't know well, I all the
Speaker 5: world check the winnay and not say say listen said
Speaker 5: as you don't need me, I say it was gonna.
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