Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-18-26 hour 2

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4:43 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. I like that a lot. I didn't even want to talk over the end. Just let it fade out. It sounds so good. That is the awakening, and that is ex animal And let me get this up here right now. Joining us via restream, We've got Noel Hampton and Claude McCann with us. Hello, good morning, Hey, Hey can you hear me? Yeah, yes, I can hear you. Noel Claude. Can you can you hear us? Cloud? Oh, we can't hear you.

5:08 Speaker 11: We can't hear you. Get Claude.

5:10 Speaker 3: I cannot hear Claude, but uh, Cloud will adjust his settings. I'm sure. Oh there we go. I hear Claude, Claude. Can you hear us?

5:23 Speaker 12: Yeah? I can hear you guys.

5:24 Speaker 3: Oh, perfect, perfect, well, yeah, welcome to the show.

5:27 Speaker 12: Yeah.

5:27 Speaker 3: I don't know if you could hear what I was saying, but I was saying I love that track, the Awakening, and that is with that features. I don't know how to pronounce this, Nagavali. Nagavali is that who does the vocal on that?

5:43 Speaker 11: So I do the the she does the more Indian traditional vocal the rest of it.

5:49 Speaker 3: Oh, the rest of it's okay, awesome, yeah, oh beautiful beautiful. Yeah, no, it sounds really good, really good. I love that song.

5:57 Speaker 11: So what thank you?

5:58 Speaker 3: So what what do what do each of you do? So, Noel, I assume do you do most of the vocals on on all the ex Animal stuff?

6:06 Speaker 11: For Yeah, we're actually called.

6:11 Speaker 3: Oh, I apologize it's now I know why you were chuckling.

6:17 Speaker 11: Oh, I I kind of like it.

6:18 Speaker 3: Ex Animal Yeah, so it's amnimal Okay, all right, Yeah.

6:23 Speaker 11: It's animal, you know what its teach their own also, let every even think of it what they want to think of it. Sure, sure, yeah, so I because we've only been this is our second track together and Claude. Claude and Ken are the the producers on this particular project. Okay, I do have some some production input, but in my own project, I'm a I'm a producer. But with this, with these guys, it's kind of fun to just let them have that, have at it, and then they send me a track and then I get to do more of the melody vocal lyric kind of a thing with this project.

6:56 Speaker 11: So it's really fun for me.

6:57 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. And then so so it's kind of a well, Claude, how would how would you describe his Animal? I mean it sounds like it's kind of a collective thing, but how do you describe the project?

7:11 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a collective electronic music project. But you know, and also we tried to involve, you know, involve other people in the in our Austin music scene here. You know, there's there's another Ken Christiansen who's who's part of his Animal and he had some other things going on during this.

7:34 Speaker 12: So yeah, this was me and and Noel.

7:38 Speaker 13: You know, and I'm kind of the synth man and and programming and stuff like that.

7:44 Speaker 11: Okay, he's modest, he's not. He's kind of a he's kind of a synth wizard.

7:50 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.

7:52 Speaker 11: Yeah, so we had done I don't know if you had heard our first track called Love Access.

7:57 Speaker 3: And not only have I heard it, I intend to play it at the end of our conversation because that's another great track. I love it.

8:02 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's kind of how this thing started, was that they had this track for Love Access and they were like, maybe we should get you know, our friend Noel to Like actually, Ken had never even heard of me, but Clode and I have known each other for years, and they're like, maybe we should get Noel to sing on this, you know, let's see what we could do as a collaboration. And when we went in on that track, it was just like such a vibe and we just had so much fun and it was really easy, and we were like, maybe we should do more like this.

8:31 Speaker 11: So their thing kind of became our thing in a way. So it sort of turned into his animal. But yeah, then we were sort of talking in the beginning about what it should be like, and it was like, well, we all love bands like Massive Attack, Thievery Corporation, you know that kind of thing, zero seven, all those things that had like multiple people come in and join them, and so all since the beginning, specifically, I've had in my head to use knack a Valli on a track, and just the times we're in, you know, like we we have another dance track that we're kind of getting ready to to to work on here that's almost done.

9:14 Speaker 11: But I just felt like, man, my spirit is a.

9:17 Speaker 3: Little broken right now, understood.

9:19 Speaker 11: I just felt like I needed I needed, like to work on a track with a little more kind of spiritual like you know, vibe, a little more like what's happening now with people, you know, and Claude just nailed it, like just like yeah, what he delivered was exactly what I wanted to work on.

9:37 Speaker 3: So no, that makes sense.

9:39 Speaker 7: You know.

9:39 Speaker 3: The press material mentions themes of you know, hope and transcendence and emotional release, and I do think it really comes through in a track like The Awakening. I mean, that's that's what I got from it, you know, just listening into the track before I'd even read anything about the project and what you're doing with it.

9:56 Speaker 2: Are you?

9:57 Speaker 3: Are you both in Austin, Texas? Mm hmm, okay, great?

10:03 Speaker 11: Great scene three all three of us, all three of us in Xanimal and Knock a Valley.

10:07 Speaker 3: We all live in Austin, Okay, Okay, Yeah, I mean I'm not surprised, you know, to hear something interesting like this project to come out of there, because there's such a scene there. There's so many we've we've actually over the years, we've had a lot of artists from that area, uh, specifically on the show, and there's there's so much great I mean, do you think do you think it's helpful being in a place like Austin, Texas, where you're surrounded by by so many creative people, Versus if you were in a place where maybe there just wasn't a lot happening musically, I mean, or or maybe not.

10:39 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you'd be creating this music no matter where you lived. But but I feel like, I feel like in Austin, Texas, you're just surrounded by so much creativity that it would be really inspiring.

10:52 Speaker 11: It's it's unbelievable honestly.

10:54 Speaker 12: Yeah. And also the scene is very it's just real supportive.

11:01 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, likes.

11:05 Speaker 13: Different competition, but it's it's it's really like everybody in all the different genres is really supportive, and.

11:13 Speaker 11: We all collaborate a lot. Like we all do shows together with like, you know, different kinds of acts on the same bill. There's like, you know, a deep Americana scene here, there's a there's a cool like indie electro and rock and roll scene. There's like punk rock. It's but everyone kind of knows each other. I mean a lot of people do, and we all see each other a lot at different events, and so we've definitely have Like I lived in you know, I came up in the San Francisco Bay Area. I lived in LA for a while.

11:43 Speaker 11: I've just never seen a music community. I mean, I we had a good community in the Bay Area, but it was so spread apart. You know, it's like East Bay, South Bay, and it's just hard to kind of get to each other's gigs. But in Austin, we are like five minutes ten minutes away from somebody's show at any given moment. So it makes us a tighter community, you know.

12:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fantastic. So what's kind of the Obviously you've got you know, The Awakening and you know later we'll we'll play love Access. But are you are you continuing to make music together now as as animal? Is this going to be? I mean, what's kind of the long term plan? Are you going to do an ep A, You're gonna do an album, or you're gonna keep doing singles? I mean I assume you're going to continue to work together.

12:24 Speaker 12: Yeah, what are we doing that as a single and then think about doing.

12:28 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's more like the adulting of life. They gets in the way.

12:34 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we all have.

12:36 Speaker 11: Like different projects that we do. You know, like I have a band called The Bell Sounds that I'm you know, the lead everything on, producer, writer, and uh it's like a synthpop band. In Austin. Claude has like five bands Claude.

12:53 Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, yeah that's good.

12:57 Speaker 11: So this is a fun thing. But we we definitely we want to make more music together. It's just a matter of finding a minute to get together.

13:04 Speaker 3: Right, right, So what is the creative process like in a in a project like this, I mean, who, who kind of comes up with the uh you know on these like on these two songs that we're playing today, like you know, how did how did these come about? What's the process? And maybe maybe the two songs that to distinctly different processes. I don't know, but I'm curious about how that works.

13:26 Speaker 13: Well, it's will get basically, get a musical track together and the access It was Ken and I that did it, and we'll and you'll send it to Noel. Of course she'll come in, but lots of times she actually we just send it to her and she sings at her own studio.

13:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then back.

13:47 Speaker 13: So but I mean, we we go back and we we talk about a concept.

13:52 Speaker 12: You know what are concept is going to be?

13:56 Speaker 11: Yeah, like lyrically, we we have a we have an idea got to going in or like a vibe going in so that I have something to kind of bounce off of. But like I said, this is fun for me because normally I'm the one that in my band that makes all the music and I sit here for hours and nerding out. But this time I just get like some beautiful, amazing thing just delivered to me and I go, oh cool, Yeah, this is fun. It's the whole new reality for me. Yeah, but yeah, we definitely are like collaborative and stuff.

14:25 Speaker 11: We were kind of hoping that Ken would have time too, because he's a great DJ, and we were hoping that he would have time to do like a really cool remix of this song of the Awakening, so we're helping at some point he can do that. Claude is also working on a remix of the Awakening And for our last track, we got how many like different DJs, like four or five did remixes of Love Access, So we're kind of putting that out too.

14:51 Speaker 3: So I'm really curious about that because that's interesting. I was looking at your band camp and I saw that Love Access. Yeah, it's got multiple different remix I mean, how cool is that when when you've done something that that other people wanted them take and and and put their own stamp on and remix it. I mean that's got to be really gratifying.

15:08 Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, yes.

15:13 Speaker 12: You know, and you can hear different areas. I mean, we our stuff has put out myself and can't have a label called new music, new human music.

15:22 Speaker 14: Okay, we have some on it, but his animal is part is part of that is one of our main things on that label, and we kind of the DJs, We kind of have a DJ side to.

15:34 Speaker 13: It, and he knows a lot of a lot of people who do that kind of production and remix it.

15:39 Speaker 11: So okay, Yeah, he came up in that world and like has toured all over the world doing that kind of thing. So he's made a lot, made a lot of friends and connections. He still does it. I think he's maybe he's even out there right now. I'm not sure, but he's one of those guys that has like hands and a million different pots. I don't know how he keeps up with it, but but yeah, it's been for It's really fun for me because I've never had anybody do that with anything that I've produced or created. Yeah, so for me, it was a new experience and it was like wow, like just to hear what part of the song they would choose, or what part of my vocal or if they even use my vocal at all or whatever, you know.

16:20 Speaker 11: And when we did this song, when we did The Awakening, I thought, I thought it would be really interesting to see, like I could imagine some people remixing the song without ever using any of mine and just using naga Vali because she's so magical, you know. I think it could be a really cool like world, you know, kind of edim situation or something. But yeah, hopefully we can get some people to remix it. That'd be fun.

16:43 Speaker 3: Now do these songs get at any point? Do they get performed live? I would imagine that would be a challenge maybe to pull that together, but I don't know.

16:54 Speaker 11: I would love to, but I guess we need a little bit more material.

16:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all.

17:00 Speaker 14: But also I've been trying to think of how we can you know, how we can do it?

17:06 Speaker 12: Uh, there's a there's a way, but we're getting to that.

17:10 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we could probably do it in a sense of like if we're doing if they're doing like a New Human showcase or something like that, we could probably get up there and do you know, like the couple tracks we have and just use tracks. If Nagavali's not there, we can use her track or whatever. You know. In my band, we perform with live musicians and track, so it's definitely possible to use things like that. But but Claude can play the sense live and stuff like that. So I think it would be really fun if we did that, we may maybe we don't need to wait until we have too much more to just kind of pop up and say here we.

17:43 Speaker 3: Are, this is what we do right right? Yeah, I can imagine how that would be a challenge. So what's so, what is next for for his animal? What's what's kind of the next? Uh? I mean, do you have another single that you're working on? Now?

17:59 Speaker 8: We you?

18:00 Speaker 11: We do? They made this track that's like, it's so cool, Like I kind of describe it as like disco like Prince type disco.

18:09 Speaker 3: Track, Intrigued.

18:11 Speaker 11: It's it's a jam. It's it's a serious jam. And I'm just like trying my hardest to like find a way to live up to how cool this track is. My lyrics and melody.

18:25 Speaker 12: We'll figure it out.

18:28 Speaker 11: We'll figure it out. But it's just such a cool track, and I just want to make sure it's like, yeah, this is it. So but we're we're pretty we're pretty far along on that. We just have to kind of start putting all those pieces together and and then get that out and then you know, I don't know, it's just a matter of these guys continuing to get together and you know, make some make some music. When they have some free time and send it over absolutely.

18:52 Speaker 12: I mean when we did, when.

18:54 Speaker 13: We did Love Access, we kind of had an idea that we would be a.

18:59 Speaker 12: Like have eighties elements and that would kind of be our style. But we've kind of gone off that.

19:07 Speaker 11: A little bit, but.

19:10 Speaker 12: We still have that in there, but I mean it's not Yeah. Yeah.

19:14 Speaker 11: I think also, like what we talked about in the beginning was like maybe that we didn't need to define this project as much, because when you do your own projects, you get really like sucked into like genre based stuff where you're like I do this, I do that and stuff. So for us creatively, this is such a fun thing to be able to just go what are you feeling right now? What do you want to do? You know, and not have such constraints on this particular project. I think that would be really cool to not have to feel like we have to fit into some some box, you know.

19:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think and I can say too just from my own experience as a musician, I think it's always more exciting when you don't think about what you know, genre, something is supposed to be. You don't try to fit it into a box. You're just do what you think sounds good. You just make the music that you want to make without worrying about anything else. And I think that's the best way to do it. And that's how you get the most authentic sounding sounding stuff at the end of the day, is just by doing what you want to do rather than worrying about, well, it's got to fit this it's got to be able to be in this category, it's got to fit this format.

20:26 Speaker 3: We got to get it on this radio station, you know, whatever it is.

20:30 Speaker 12: Yeah, there's kind of a lot of pressure do one thing. So much in the business is organized towards what do you do? Where can you put you?

20:41 Speaker 3: Yeah?

20:44 Speaker 11: I mean true, they want they want to put you in a in a box.

20:47 Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, And and part of that, and part of that is just you know, that's how you market things, and and so that that is a necessary you know. I'm I've I've lived on both sides of the business of you know, the business side and the creative side, and and and I but the way I've always thought of it is, you know, as far as the creating the art, whether it's music or any kind of art, just just make what you want to make and then once that's done and you're happy with it, that's when you figure the other part out, you know, the how do you market it?

21:16 Speaker 3: How do you know, where do you place it on? All that, But that shouldn't even enter your mind until you're done creating whatever it is you're creating. Everything else can be figured out later.

21:28 Speaker 11: Yeah, because if you if that's the dream, isn't it.

21:31 Speaker 5: Yeah?

21:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think practically that's how you have to do it, because even if you're trying to figure out the other part while you're creating the music, you know, those other plans are gonna inevitably have to change anyway. So you might as well just not be thinking about that at all while you're creating, and then and then worry about the rest later, you know. And there's probably some very very successful people in the music industry who will tell me that everything I just said is wrong, and and they probably have platinum records and millions of dollars.

21:59 Speaker 3: So but so at the end of the day, what do I know? But that's how I think of it.

22:04 Speaker 11: Well, yeah, and there's just so many pressures. Things are not easy. It's it's a lot of pressure in every business. Right now, every everywhere, everyone's kind of dealing with a lot of like stress. So I think this for us just needs to feel like, you know, something that is just wow, it's exciting and happy and lovely when we get together and we make cool music, and like that's literally that's enough. I mean, if people hear it, yay, if people love it yay. Yeah, I want people to hear it and love it and pass it on.

22:35 Speaker 11: But this particular project for me just needs to feel more about like creation joy, you know, because everything else is really hard, and we all have our own projects that we're also and our own businesses and things that we do to make day daytime money, you.

22:51 Speaker 3: Know, right, so exactly, so it's hard, man.

22:56 Speaker 11: And so this is just like these guys are extremely creative. I have so much trust in their in their creative process. Like I would not just let them hand in that track if I didn't trust what their aesthetic was, you know, And so it's super fun to just kind of see like what comes next. They actually sent me, like when we were doing Love Access, they sent me like five other track options or something, and all of them were super cool. So I don't even know what happened to those, Claude, what happened to those?

23:32 Speaker 3: It's a good problem to have, by the way, So I haven't asked the I haven't asked the most obvious question. Where does the name's animal come from? What does it mean?

23:46 Speaker 11: Clod?

23:47 Speaker 12: It's just kind of a sixty eighties name. I don't.

23:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's we had, that's valid.

23:54 Speaker 11: We had. We just made a big list of like, you know, kind of intrigue like sort of words that to me, it's sort of like we're we're all kind of one, one type of being, even though we're all so different, and it sort of like puts us under this, like we're all animals, but maybe we're all just a little bit weird and different and strange. And to me, it's kind of like strange strange people, like animal kind of cool people, strange people music, you know what I mean. And so it's sort of like embodies like the humanness of just like, you know, what is this tribe?

24:31 Speaker 11: It's like a tribe.

24:32 Speaker 3: Almost you know, Yeah, yeah I like that.

24:35 Speaker 13: Yeah, so yeah, and it's got some exotic exoticness to it.

24:41 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

24:45 Speaker 11: It looks cool.

24:46 Speaker 12: We haven't we haven't or.

24:48 Speaker 3: Anything like that, right, gotcha understood. So in the moment, we're gonna play Love Access the original mix, and you know, we'll we'll let you go in a minute, and then we're going to hit that track. But what what should we know about this? I mean, you touched on it a little bit, but anything you want us to know about Love Access? Are there any other people who are on it that we should know about? Or anything about the production you want us to know?

25:20 Speaker 12: See, now that was the three of us.

25:24 Speaker 11: That one was just the three of us. Yeah, I mean to me, it was like pretty obviously like leaning into you know, dance disco, dancy eighties vibe, and so immediately my mind went to the club and like just that that moment when you're at a club and you kind of see that that person, you get that vibe from somebody and all of a sudden sort of you know, if you meet them or you start dancing with them and the world kind of just disappears around you almost and you know, maybe it's a one night thing. You never know, it's just like a big spark, and that kind of a thing is just sort of like tapping into that real intimate, special moment.

26:10 Speaker 11: But at a dance club essentially.

26:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, cool, I like that, So we'll we'll play that. We'll play that in a moment and then later on the show a five times. I might even play one of the remixes, because I personally I love remixes. But also too, before we let you go, Uh, where where's the best place to go online to keep up with everything that's Animal is doing? And and of course, uh we should mention too new Human Records if you want to. I'm looking at the band campage for that. Uh, there's there's some some stuff on there. But where where should people go to keep up with is Animal?

26:43 Speaker 12: There's a new Human music dot com.

26:46 Speaker 11: Okay, and we also have we have Instagram, and we have under under his Animal, but we don't quite yet have TikTok. But I have a TikTok under the bell sounds and stuff. But we will eventually get that. It's just another thing to manage. But you do have Insta and uh and and uh Facebook right now?

27:07 Speaker 3: Okay? Okay?

27:08 Speaker 11: Fantastic well and obviously on all streaming platforms too.

27:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely that's essential. Yeah. Well, Claude and Noel, thank you both for joining us today. By the way. I'm just curious, is it like super hot where you guys are in Austin, Texas? Is it triple digits?

27:24 Speaker 11: Honestly, we've we've had a like the mildest summer yet it we've had one day where it hit one hundred all the way up until today. Well not today, it's going to hit one under next next week, I think. But that's like unheard of for us to have through July where it's it's still in the eighties nineties. Wow, And I don't know, I don't know if you're we had.

27:47 Speaker 12: July, it's crazy.

27:49 Speaker 11: Yeah, we had like flooding in the Hill country.

27:51 Speaker 3: Oh wow, and like they did like.

27:53 Speaker 11: It did last year. So but it's interesting because you look at like East Coast and you guys, everyone's been like one hundred and ten and stuff. That's our normal vibe. Yeah, yeah, we've had it easy.

28:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's good. I'm glad for you. Yeah, it has been hot here. Fortunately. I don't mind the heat, so I'm I'm I'm good. I would, uh, I would, You're lucky, Matt, I am lucky. I don't. I don't mind it at all, but I wish it was a dryer heat, but even the humidity doesn't bother me that much.

28:20 Speaker 11: But no, I was just curious life right now down here.

28:25 Speaker 3: No, that's good, that's excellent, excellent, all right, so we're going to hit this track love Axis again a Claude and Noel, thank you both for joining us today. This has been wonderful and we'll definitely do it again in the future. As you release it, sounds like you got a lot of stuff coming up, so we'll, uh, we'll have you back in the future.

28:39 Speaker 11: I'm sure we'd love to do that.

28:42 Speaker 3: Thank you, Matt, count on it. All right, all right, thank you both, take care, have a good day. All right, bye, bye, all right, very good. That is Claude and Noel. The project is Animal now I know how to say it correctly, and uh, let's hit this. This is another another great track. This is called love Axis from X Animal.

29:26 Speaker 6: Who existence in my direction? I feel the coming on.

29:34 Speaker 10: I'm living for this smooth affection like andictin soul.

29:49 Speaker 6: I'm running high of this subtension like coming home one and now where deep pen this come connection. We're dancing through it to the time I moved to the left, she moved to the right.

30:12 Speaker 5: I get loose. You're pulling time. I'm breathing him. You breathe off.

30:20 Speaker 8: We move in through with the crowl Your.

30:24 Speaker 2: Eyes catch mine.

30:26 Speaker 5: The light sped around.

30:28 Speaker 11: We're lost in time.

30:30 Speaker 5: We're lost and sun my lips on you. You stared on me.

30:36 Speaker 10: I close my eyes. You send me dream. I'm losing of my perception.

31:19 Speaker 5: I guess you.

31:19 Speaker 6: Oh my god, your body is manual obsession, infatuated people.

31:28 Speaker 8: On and on.

31:38 Speaker 6: I moved to the left, you move to the light.

31:41 Speaker 5: I get loose. It pull me time.

31:45 Speaker 10: I'm breathing you breas.

31:49 Speaker 11: We move into with the crowd.

31:53 Speaker 5: Your eyes catch me. The light small.

31:57 Speaker 3: We're lost all time, We're lost.

32:16 Speaker 6: If that's Sisters in Direction.

32:33 Speaker 3: That is the original mix of Love Access. I say original mix because they have some remixes too that you can find online. But that is of course Animal, Now I know. Okay, So I'm gonna tell you something kind of funny. Just quickly, when I was preparing for the interview with and again thank you to Claude and Noel from Xanimal for joining me, I actually asked, AI, how do I say this is it? Because I honestly wasn't sure. I thought it might be z animal because it starts with an X. And of course, you know there are words that start with an X but actually sound like Z, like well, the name Xavier or uh, although it can be x xavier, but I know someone named Xavier who spells it with an X or xylophone.

33:20 Speaker 3: You know, there are words that start with an X but are actually pronounced like a Z. But I so I wasn't sure. So I wasn't. It wasn't sure if it was animal or if it was X animal. And then I looked up on Well, I asked AI. I think I don't remember what program I asked, but I said, hey, how do I say this? And I shared a link to the project so that whatever I was using, I don't know if it was chat GPT, if it was Gemini. I think it might have been Gemini. I shared a link and I said, how do I pronounce this artist because I have to interview them?

33:53 Speaker 3: And it told me it was X animal. So got it wrong, But there you go. But we talked about AI a lot on the show, and you know, not everything's always going to be correct with it, that is for sure. But all that being said, I did really enjoy talking with Claude and Noel, and we might sneak in one of the remixes of Love Access a little bit later in the show if we have time. But if you are just joining us, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.

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35:10 Speaker 3: And so the point being, there are many ways to enjoy the show, and it is, of course Saturday, July eighteenth. I had to think about it. Oh, July goes too fast. It's my favorite month. We're already up to the eighteenth. We're already past a halfway point. July eighteenth, twenty twenty sixth. July is my favorite month because summer is my favorite time of year. Once we get into August, it's like, oh, we're in the last month of August. I mean, technically summer lasts until you know, past the middle of September, but it doesn't really feel like summer at that point, does it.

35:42 Speaker 3: So anyway, it goes much much too fast. But we have had a great show, if I do say so myself so far. Again. I really enjoyed talking to the members of Xanimal. And in the first hour we had Johnny Couch. Oh, I love Johnny Couch. I definitely want to seek in another track from him later in the show too, if we have time coming up. In the third hour, Sean McCarthy is going to be here. He'll be joining us via Microsoft teams to talk about his new documentary, Resilience and Sacrifice. It's really good and I cannot wait to talk to him about it.

36:12 Speaker 3: I have lots of questions. It was fun to watching it because you know, he's from the scene, and I've interviewed him before, known him a long time, and I know a lot of the people who were in the documentary people I recognized or even people I knew personally, and so it was a lot of fun to watch it. I enjoyed it a lot. But we will talk to him in the third hour today right now what we're going to do because we also had a request in the chat room Larry from Loud Entertainment, and we don't usually do requests, but I'm happy to fill or fulfill.

36:43 Speaker 3: I should say this request day to attend who, by the way, played a big show last night at Jewel and would have loved to have gone, but just too too busy. But they're an incredible live band, and they've been on the show a bunch of times, and I've done some work with them radio stuff. But we played this on the show the last time they were here in studio with us. But this is a request specifically from Loud Entertainment, who a great, great promotions company. And Larry from Loud Entertainment. He's a great guy.

37:12 Speaker 3: He's been on the show with us before. But he requested that we play this track South Louisiana, which has a little bit of a different vibe for Day to Attend, as you can tell just from the title of the song. But really good. I love this track so much, so we will go ahead and we're going to play this and then we'll see where we We'll see who we have time for in the second hour on the other side of this song. But this is so good South Louisiana, and the band is Day to Attend.

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41:45 Speaker 3: Oh that is so good. That was a request from Larry from Loud Entertainment. That is day to attend. The song is called South Louisiana. I love that a lot. And by the way, you heard it here first we did the world radio premiere for that single when it came out right here on Matt Connor Unleashed here on WMNH ninety five point three FM. By the way, I quick plug for next week's show. Next week, we're gonna have a Dear Darkhead nicola I Kane and Superbug. Nicola I Kane and Superbug, they've both been on the show before, and really looking forward to that, Dear Darkhead.

42:16 Speaker 3: It will be my first time speaking with them with Rob Weiss from that project, but really looking forward to that. That will all be happening next week and of course, if you are looking for the archive of previous episodes of the show. You can find them all there all at Wmnhradio dot org, well all the shows that we've done here of course at wm and H. If you go to my website Matt connorton dot com slash archive, you can find them there. You can find literally all of them though, actually on our YouTube channel, on the ipmnation YouTube channel, you can find literally every single episode in every iteration, because there's been many iterations and permutations of this program over the years.

42:57 Speaker 3: You can find them all on the ipmnation YouTube channel. Literally everything. Also, if you go to our new site, Matt connorton unleashed dot com, it is searchable, so if you're looking for a specific guest or a particular day for a specific episode, you can find that there. Matt connorton unleashed dot com. We do have a little bit of time, just some quick music news. Again. We're going to be joined in the third hour in just a few minutes by our friend Sean McCarthy to talk about his new documentary Resilience and Sacrifice.

43:28 Speaker 3: But something interesting this showed up on Music Business Worldwide dot com, one of my favorite sites for music industry news. This is something that I do not believe would work in the United States. But and I don't know if it will necessarily work there either. But South Korea something interesting they're doing there. South Korea bill would require music distributors to screen tracks for content harmful to minors before release. And again, this is something that would not work here, which is part of why for a number of which is part of why I find this so interesting that they're doing this.

44:03 Speaker 3: But and this is the first I've heard of this. I didn't even get a chance to preread this, but let's look at this quickly. It says lawmakers in South Korea have introduced a bill that would require music distributors to screen tracks for content harmful to minors before those tracks are released. The amendment to the country's Music Industry Promotion Act was filed on Monday, July sixth by Representative Kim Huen of the ruling Democratic Party of Korea, alongside nine co sponsors, lodged with the National Assembly as Bill number two two one nine seven seven five.

44:37 Speaker 3: It would require distributors to check whether a recording is harmful to youth before release, applying the review criteria to the country's Youth Protection Act. Oh, what could go wrong?

44:48 Speaker 2: Uh?

44:50 Speaker 3: And again this is something that would not work here for several reasons. Continuing on with the article, if a track is judged harmful and its creator is under nigh nineteen, the distributor must block it from release. An adult creator would instead be notified that the track may be designated harmful to youth, restricting it to adult listeners. According to the Korea Times, South Korean arts outlet News Art News Art that's the name of the publication examine the bill as filed with the National Assembly and reported that carries no criminal penalties.

45:26 Speaker 3: Distributors that breach the screening rule would instead face corrective orders or warnings from local governments. Corrective orders that sounds ominous. Under the current system, the Youth Protection Committee under the Ministry of Gender Equality and Family reviews songs after release and bars miners from those it designates harmful. That designation can take weeks or months. The bills backers say leave in a window in which a track can spread online before any Youth Protection Committee ruling.

45:58 Speaker 3: Kimis casts a measure. As a response, it's a hateful and crime glorifying content spreading through music quote artistic This is from Kim. Artistic freedom must be respected, but we cannot stand by and do nothing while hate or crime promoting songs are distributed online freely, harming peer communities, classrooms, and ultimately society as a whole. Because culture and the arts are the spiritual assets of society, any attempt to abuse them as a means of spreading hate speech must be corrected. Unquote.

46:33 Speaker 3: An aid to Kim told The Korea Times that the bill was partly prompted by a recent case involving Incheon Middle school students who released a track filled with violent, hateful expressions towards peers, which then circulated widely across music platforms. Oh that's interesting. I've never seen anything like that happen in the US. Not that it, I mean, maybe it hasn't. I just don't know. But the bill has drawn sharp criticism from within South Korea's music community. Rapper E Sends was among those pushing back on social media.

47:07 Speaker 3: Quote, you shouldn't bring censorship back. Who sets the standards and who gets to decide if a particular song is uncomfortable to listen to? Isn't it enough for that person to simply choose not to consume it? Unquote,

47:20 Speaker 3: that would be my argument. A coalition of ten cultural and arts groups has voiced similar concerns. Culture and arts workers a solidarity set in a statement quote, the bill's reference to music that is likely to cause clear and serious harm to youth doesn't provide any concrete criteria which would allow subjective judgments of what is harmful unquote right, and that's the immediate problem you're going to run into. Um,

47:54 Speaker 3: they went on to say in a statement quote, the idea that strong censorship can prevent hate is nothing more than a fallacy. If this law is underlying logic were correct, then discrimination and hatred should have disappeared under the authoritarian regimes of Park Chung Lee and tuned out one when censorship was at its most powerful in modern Korean history. Unquote. I apologize if I butchered those names. So there's more to this. We don't really have time to go through the entire article, but I would tend to say, I mean, if something and maybe there is something like this that has been introduced in the United States and just didn't get very far, I don't know, but I guess I would say, you know, again, the obvious problem is.

48:40 Speaker 16: You know it is.

48:41 Speaker 3: It is subjective. And in the United States it wouldn't work too in the sense that you would have you know, everyone would be going nuts about, you know, the First Amendment.

48:53 Speaker 3: But also, you know, in the United States, these platforms, and this is something we talk about a lot of the show. These platforms, any any platform that distributes music. You know, they can they can police that themselves. They can make decisions themselves, and you know, and they may they may make those decisions as a result of public pressure, but they are able to make decisions and police themselves in terms of what is and is not permissible on their platforms. So the example used in the article of what happened in South Korea with these these kids at the school who made this apparently horrible, hate filled track, you know, Spotify can say, well, we're not going to allow that on our platform.

49:38 Speaker 3: Again, I'm talking about in the United States, distro Kid. You know, if they signed up for a distro Kid account, distro Kid can say we're we're not going to distribute this song. You know, this is not okay. YouTube would would probably ban it, somebody would report it, it would get removed. So I'm just saying I don't think that would work here, and I'm it's very skeptical that it is going to work there. All right. On that note, we are Yeah, we don't really have time to get to anything else because we do need to show some love to our amazing sponsors.

50:12 Speaker 3: Let's do that right now. Again, if you are just joining us, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and coming up in just a few minutes our guest for the third hour. Today, we're gonna be talking with Sean McCarthy. He's gonna join us via Microsoft Teams and we're gonna talk all about his new album, I'm sorry, not his new album, his new documentary called a Resilience and Sacrifice And maybe he has a new album to promote too, and I just don't know that, but I'll ask him about that. Hey, do you have a new album?

50:40 Speaker 3: No, I'm really looking forward to talking to Sean. It's been a long time since i've talked to him, and I did watch the documentary. It is really really good. So that will all be coming up in the third hour right now. Do have time, No, we don't have time. I was gonna maybe sneak in one more thing. We don't have time, all right, right now, we're gonna go ahead and show some love to our amazing sponsors. We always have time for that, you know. They pay the bills, and we're lucky, We're very fortunate.

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