Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-19-25 hour 1

0:01 Speaker 1: If you're listening to Wumination.

0:05 Speaker 2: World premiere.

0:10 Speaker 3: For the first time on American radio, the brand new single from Moonlight Eclipse. This is called Lines.

0:26 Speaker 4: It's on We started now We're not at the end like you think you're gonna do.

0:32 Speaker 5: It all again.

0:36 Speaker 4: We're good and older, but our mind it starts shrink. He can just get his paper and a knife, his pen.

0:45 Speaker 4: Someone finds out, so we start to reassure them that we haven't lost our minds. But they don't even know the half of what she'll do.

1:00 Speaker 6: When they forget about the don't it's a little secret, ticky.

1:08 Speaker 7: Not it's all scarce and.

1:11 Speaker 8: Now I don't know to read.

1:14 Speaker 6: Jest when it's all scarce, the a again, dusky cup high.

1:38 Speaker 7: We need to stop and think.

1:40 Speaker 4: We can't get caught this way, they'll say we're dumping the head. Don't go to your room, up to your doors and I away changing your skin from white to red. You go too far this time, no point did you give it up.

2:02 Speaker 1: You can't just leave it all.

2:04 Speaker 6: Be high, and if you try to move on from the past that you'll still have to please all the

2:16 Speaker 6: it's a little secret taking it's a sin and I don't know the reason. Just get exact.

2:28 Speaker 9: It's all.

2:30 Speaker 6: It's almost only answer.

2:36 Speaker 7: So I just get out.

2:50 Speaker 1: Control.

2:50 Speaker 4: I'm stop. You want to come and cry and all about my problem wasn't perfect for worth it.

2:56 Speaker 3: It might have been.

3:00 Speaker 6: Just like I want to get him in it.

3:03 Speaker 4: Just at seven time, it's okay, noble guesting the.

3:08 Speaker 6: Cigaret between you and me. Get this subtle secrets ticking. So it's off the skin and I don't know how to read it. Don't just get exact. It's a whole, its skin only, it's a can's whatever.

3:31 Speaker 9: So just get.

3:44 Speaker 6: It's a dope.

3:46 Speaker 7: It's all gone thinks that you I help him, but you just help me write this song.

3:54 Speaker 6: It's up done, it's all gone wrong.

3:59 Speaker 4: I should well pace my issues, but turned back and welcome the talk show. It's all good.

4:09 Speaker 7: Think that's you Helton, just.

4:11 Speaker 6: Helping me right sore.

4:20 Speaker 8: So ucking skin insact.

4:24 Speaker 6: We just walt.

4:34 Speaker 10: Oh that is so good.

4:35 Speaker 3: Brand new from Moonlight Eclipse, a great young band, very young band from Ireland who we had on the show recently, and that is fantastic.

4:43 Speaker 8: That is called Lines.

4:44 Speaker 3: That is the first time you are hearing that on American radio. And we are so happy here at w M and H and of course on Matt Connorton Unleashed to be able to premiere that show.

4:54 Speaker 8: This is Matt Connorton.

4:55 Speaker 3: Unleased and we are live from the studios of w M n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, streaming of course anywhere in the world that Matt Connerton dot Com slash live.

5:06 Speaker 8: Today is Saturday.

5:07 Speaker 3: July nineteen, twenty twenty five, and I am not alone.

5:18 Speaker 10: Jenny Morning Sunshine.

5:23 Speaker 8: Jenny is here at the news table.

5:25 Speaker 3: Presenton accounted for and in just a few minutes we're going to be joined via Microsoft Teams by members of the band Flair, and recently so we've debuted a couple of their songs, done a couple of American radio premieres for them as well, another great band from the UK. And first was their track Runaway, which was I don't know a few months ago now I lose track of time. And then recently we played city Lights, a song that I absolutely love, for the first time on American radio and we're gonna play that again in just a couple of minutes, and they are going to be joining us via Microsoft Teams to talk about that.

6:02 Speaker 3: In the second hour of the show today, we have Lydia ready also skyping in from or not skyping in see old Habits, also joining us via teams from the UK. And she's got a great track called Turn This Town Around. We played that on the show for the first time on American radio a few weeks ago, so she's gonna be joining us live.

6:21 Speaker 8: Looking forward to that.

6:22 Speaker 3: And then in the third hour today, we've got the Stiff Tones coming in live and they've got a couple of great studio tracks and I think they're even gonna they're gonna play for us if I'm not mistaken live in studio, So really looking forward to that as well. So they're really great. So welcome everybody. We do have an exciting show ahead for you. And by the way, we will play the if you missed it, we will play the new Moonlight eclip song again in the second and third hour today on the program as well.

6:46 Speaker 3: I love that so much. That is called lines. That is the radio edit. Of course you might have noticed as a word muted a few times during the song. So but because of course we do.

6:58 Speaker 8: I don't know what the rules are in the UK actually over here.

7:01 Speaker 3: Of course, in the United States we have to be mindful of you know, FCC regulations and so forth. So but they sent us the radio edit, I didn't have to make one. Occasionally I end up making my own radio edits for some of these guests that we have on the show if I really want to play something, but they don't have a radio edit ready.

7:16 Speaker 8: But but but of course they did.

7:17 Speaker 3: They're very professional and everybody we get from Big GPR overseas, Gary and Eden, everybody they send us is absolutely amazing. So we're really glad to partner up with them, and they send us all this amazing talent. Uh, let's see, Oh if we get to it, so we'll see if we have time today or not. But there was an interesting story in the news. If you haven't seen this, you should take a moment and google it because when it initially happened, we talked about it on the show. You remember when Jane's Addiction on their reunion tour, they were playing that they they're playing in Boston, I forget what Yeah, what what venue?

7:54 Speaker 8: And a fight.

7:56 Speaker 3: A fight broke out, not in the crowd but on stage between Perry Ferrell and Dave Navarro. Or Perry was really the one fighting. Navarro was just kind of trying to defend himself and back up. And now there is a lawsuit members of Jane's Addiction suing Perry Ferrell over that, and maybe we'll talk about that later in the show, if we get to it. But it's just an interesting story. People who don't understand this, or who just don't know who might be outside the business that And I know a lot of industry people listen to the show, but people outside the business might not realize this when something like that happens.

8:35 Speaker 3: I mean, millions of dollars are at stake, right, so much money is lost. If you're so safe for example, and not to take sides necessarily, but if you're Dave Navarro or one of the other members of Jane's Addiction and you're on this tour or you're involved in the tour in any way on a business level, and all of a sudden the tour is canceled for whatever reason, that's a lot a lot of money that is lost, not only an income, but it really screws things up for everybody involved, promoters and management and anybody who has any kind of fiduciary commitment involved here or connection with what's happening.

9:17 Speaker 8: It screws over a lot of people.

9:20 Speaker 3: So so now there's a lawsuit against Perry Ferrell because he's the one who who wrecked everything. And again I know there's he and his wife have explanations and rationalizations for why he was behaving the way that he was and what caused his anger and him to lose his temper on stage. But but you know, a lot of money gets lost. I remember right after that happened, right after the fight happened. I can't remember his name now, but there's a guy he's based in Boston, I think who. I don't remember the name of his podcast either.

9:56 Speaker 3: It's funny too, because at the time I kind of made a mental note of it. I was like, geez, I gotta I gotta pay more attention to this guy because he does really good content. Now I can't even remember his name, but he was there working as he was on that tour, I think, working as a sound tech. And I don't think he was a sound guy. I think he was he was either the guitar tech or the bass tech, and so he saw the whole thing happen. He witnessed the whole thing, so he kind of told his version of events from up close.

10:27 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was I mean, I don't know if you want to get too far into.

10:32 Speaker 3: It, but no, no, no, because we don't have time. But we'll we'll come back to it. But let's see. So we have Flair is on the line, members of the band Flair. But what we're going to do first is if those guys can hang out for a minute, we're gonna go ahead and play this track city Lights, the brand new single from Flair, and then we're going to talk to those guys and then I think at the end of the segment, we'll close the segment out with Runaway, which is the first track that we played from them, which is also a great song.

10:57 Speaker 8: But check this out.

10:58 Speaker 3: This is brand new or newish out recently, but we gave it the American radio premiere here on Matt connorton Unleashed. This is city Lights, this is Flair, and then we're going to talk to these guys on the other side. But this is such a great song. Let's give this a spin.

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12:06 Speaker 11: Love me.

12:08 Speaker 6: Like I need you to know, Pat, don't take your figures. How a transient of money is a feeling like a nice say you out lot, I need you all the time, staying with your waist. Came she had to see.

12:28 Speaker 9: Time my house, so.

12:29 Speaker 6: I came so I can see you sing somebody know the change.

12:35 Speaker 7: She can't me same try to quick you show my face now and real too.

13:07 Speaker 6: Tep just went the fun house, babing lot to take a make of something you chansy.

13:14 Speaker 7: They use a feel like.

13:15 Speaker 6: You're all take you out of the let you all the time, straining with you where you go. Just have to see that front of my house and came and said somebody can see it and say the bus some mony other change just you can't.

13:35 Speaker 10: On the same.

13:39 Speaker 6: Just had the seasons man by in my house and gamble shut. Somebody can see your sacs the brother change you cannot the same time time the baby you're killing me high can sell sist time one some time s say.

15:02 Speaker 7: Drink because she can't.

15:05 Speaker 6: Say cause I have to say that you have something some say saying that dressing song same same sat say.

16:12 Speaker 3: I love every single thing about that song. That is city Lights. That is the newest single single from Flair. I love it so much I can't even say single. You're on Matt Connorton unleashed and we've got so hopefully he's still there. Tony from the band I believe, has joined us via Microsoft Teams Tony, are you there?

16:32 Speaker 1: Yeah?

16:32 Speaker 8: I'm here.

16:32 Speaker 1: How are you doing?

16:33 Speaker 8: Hey? How are you?

16:34 Speaker 1: Man?

16:34 Speaker 8: Is it just you or is anybody else with you? Just me today?

16:39 Speaker 1: Everyone else is working on a Saturday.

16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I completely understand. Welcome to the show. I love that song so much. By the way, we should mention too, you are the vocalist and how do you say your last name?

16:53 Speaker 1: Call him? It's like Gollum from Lord of the Call him.

16:56 Speaker 8: Okay, cool, cool? Hey, I love that song so much.

17:00 Speaker 3: We also played I think it was a couple of months ago now the Time gets Away from Me. But run Away, which h that was the first song of yours that we played. Another another great track, but city Lights is amazing. That is so very catchy. Are you Are you getting any traction with that at radio over there? I would imagine you are. If you're not, I'm sure it's coming.

17:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

17:19 Speaker 12: We got an email recently saying that, like in the first week of it being released, it been on about sixty different shows over here, so it's doing pretty good so far, you know, and Spotify streams will hopefully be catching up with that as well soon.

17:34 Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, I'm not surprised because it's a very very strong track, very catchy. And then so now is that from the EP, because you guys have an EP out right.

17:46 Speaker 12: Yeah, no, so this one's just a single. Our EP which came out a couple of months ago.

17:51 Speaker 8: Now that was that.

17:52 Speaker 1: Included our songs Runaway, Sackering and.

17:55 Speaker 3: Swan Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, so those are on an EP. Now, so is city Lights going to be on? Are you working on another EP or is this going to remain a standalone single or or do you even know yet?

18:06 Speaker 12: Well, we've got a couple of more studio stations booth in a couple of months where we'll get another couple of songs done and from there I able to say that they will include that's another EP or if we want to maybe use those two and another one.

18:21 Speaker 1: So still be decided.

18:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, how you know, and this is this is truer than it's ever been. There so many different ways to approach it now in terms of how you release how you release music, whether you do a single, whether you do an EP or a full album, or you can release a series of singles that eventually become an EP or an album. It's there's a lot of different ways to do it now, and but this is such a song, a strong track. Now, who wrote Who wrote city Lights? Did you guys write it together or did you write it or what's the what's the process like in the band as far as songwriting, Well, for a.

18:54 Speaker 12: Lot of our songs, it kind of comes from us in practications and just jamming together. So something kind of and it'll be okay to get in a rhythm. But for this one particularly, it was actually I went to our bass player, Johnny's house and sort of just like a late night kind of songwriting station in the two of us kind of came up with the music and the lyrics together, mainly me lyrics and have music.

19:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's got a it's got a great vibe and it really kind of I'm curious is it about This might be a silly question, but is it about any particular city?

19:26 Speaker 1: Uh?

19:27 Speaker 3: And part of why I ask that is I'm someone who and maybe this is part of why the song appeals to me so much I love Jenny knows this about me. I love images of city skylines at night. I just and it is some are prettier than others, but it can really be any city. I just I love I love looking at city skylines at night. I love you know, the city lights.

19:45 Speaker 8: Is Is there any.

19:46 Speaker 3: Particular city that you had in mind when you wrote this or is it? Am I am I thinking?

19:52 Speaker 8: Uh?

19:52 Speaker 1: Am?

19:52 Speaker 3: I getting too granular in terms of my analysis of the song.

19:57 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm right there with you, man.

19:58 Speaker 12: It's well, it's definitely inspired by our hometown, Glasgow and here in Scotland. Yeah, but a lot of it's really like just like generals, it's a lot of it's kind of about mental health as well, and you know, like try to get away from all that kind of stuff too, so that's sort of part of its generalized.

20:16 Speaker 1: But it's definitely a lot of inspiration from Glasgow too.

20:19 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, And can you talk to me more about the mental health aspect of of what the song is about, because that's also something that we talk about a lot on this show. I'm a certified hypnotherapist, so I help people deal with some issues and and uh, you know, and I'm someone who I myself struggle with depression, so I know all too well how you know mental health, how how it affects so many people, And and maybe that's another thing that kind of subconsciously that I connect with with the song.

20:49 Speaker 3: But but can you can you kind of expand on that a little bit?

20:54 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Well, when I can write lyrics, I usually do it based on path experiences. Are find easy to reflect on them that way and kind of get you know, put words to it easier. So like that at the time of writing, I didn't feel this way, but like it reflects back on a time where I was feeling very anxious and not in the best place, and like at the time I wouldn't be able to like come up with those kind of lyrics. But like that's exactly like I couldn't stand being around people all this hustle and bustle.

21:23 Speaker 12: I want to just, you know, get away, go somewhere quiet where I could be alone.

21:27 Speaker 8: Mm hmmm hmm, yeah, I can.

21:29 Speaker 3: I can relate to that. I think everybody you know, I think that's uh, I think that's very very relatable. Do you find that, I mean just generally does does writing and performing music does that help you in terms of your own you know, whether you know you mentioned that at one point, you know you're feeling very anxious and whatnot.

21:48 Speaker 8: I mean is that kind of.

21:49 Speaker 3: Because I always feel like creativity is the best therapy, right if you can, if you can take things that are bothering you and create something out of them, or if they spur you, or maybe it's not even maybe what you create it has nothing to do with what's bothering you necessarily, but you're just creating something as a way of kind of getting through that, you know, the malaise or whatever it is.

22:11 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, Like I think I've always thought it's a very therapeutic way of getting like how you're feeling out there, and like I find like reflection on sort of even past emotions a good way, you know, even after a while finally you know, help yourself get a root cause of it, just looking and within yourself.

22:27 Speaker 1: But even at the same time, if it's not, as you said.

22:30 Speaker 12: Directly addressed and an issue you're havn't, it's a good distraction as well, I think.

22:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Now when you brought city Lights to the other guys, because you and and Johnny wrote this. What did they were they into it immediately? Were they like, oh, this is this is a hit? Or what did what did they think?

22:47 Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, this is actually a song that we've been playing on stage for probably well over a year now.

22:52 Speaker 12: Okay, it's definitely we had tried to release it a couple of times before. Yeah, but I just felt like, you know, there's something messing from it. So it certainly took a lot of wik to get to the version that you just played there.

23:07 Speaker 8: Yeah.

23:08 Speaker 3: The I'm curious about the production too, and I'm kind of a recording nerd. There's there's some very there's a lot of nuance here. You know, it's not like you guys just went in obviously and just you know, you just play the track and and and you know, there's there's some production flourishes, shall we say, especially.

23:25 Speaker 8: At the end.

23:25 Speaker 3: The way that it ends is so cool and it's very it's very sort of atmospheric.

23:30 Speaker 9: Is it?

23:31 Speaker 3: And actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Runaway is kind of like that too. Have you been working with the same producer and recording engineers uh this whole time? Or or is is it a I'm curious about your your approach in terms of recording these songs, because like I said, it's you know, you're not You're not just going into a studio and handing somebody a bunch of money and just recording, and you know there's more going on there. The production is is pretty sophisticated.

23:57 Speaker 12: Oh, I appreciate that, thank you, And we like to think that we phone some good producers over the years.

24:02 Speaker 1: But like.

24:04 Speaker 12: Runaway in City Lights were actually recorded by two different people. But I think the SIMILARI is definitely just the kind of sounds that we are trying.

24:11 Speaker 1: To capture right now.

24:13 Speaker 12: But I think that you know, we went to a producer over in Edinburgh for City Lights and I think he was just like, it's a much later sort of fabe to run Away Runaways, I'd say, a bit darker, more mysterious kind of sounding. But I think like both, like both producers were able to find the like the exact kind of tone that we were looking for.

24:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, each song, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

24:38 Speaker 3: By the way, So what's the situation in Glasgow as far as the music scene there, I would imagine there's a it seems like Glasgow is a city that we hear a lot about at least in the US that we hear a lot about in the UK where there's a lot going on.

24:51 Speaker 8: Musically.

24:52 Speaker 3: I mean, is is that true? Is my perception true? Is is there a lot of really good, really good bands and solo artists in Glasgow?

25:00 Speaker 12: Absolutely every time that we play a gig, like, I'm always impressed by at least one of the other bands that we're playing with. There's so many talented artists were especially like the sort of like rock and indy scene that there's so many like cool venues like King Tut's is like a legend of the place here. That's where Oasis were discovered and so like that's like it's almost like a mecca for like bands in Scotland to like come like.

25:24 Speaker 1: To go and play there.

25:26 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can imagine. And then so what's what's the live situation? Like what's are you guys able to get out and tour? Do you play shows in your area or do you do you do you hit the road?

25:38 Speaker 9: What?

25:39 Speaker 3: What's obviously you know we're in the time of year when this is when everybody wants to be out touring, Right, how's that been for you guys?

25:47 Speaker 12: Well thought the first couple of years we were like we're stuck in the mud, like we were only getting Glasgow shows, which was great because, like I said, the music scene in Glasgow is amazing.

25:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, but.

25:57 Speaker 1: I'd say about a year ago with you know, we've been.

26:00 Speaker 12: Down so if we went to England, we've done you know, Manchester, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham, a few other places at Newcastle as well. And we've still got a lot more book for the rest of this year and finally starting to get some festivals in two so good.

26:17 Speaker 1: It's been at a satme time.

26:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, festivals are definitely where it's at in terms of getting exposure and and and building a fan base in terms of your your your live presentation. So that's that's great. That's really good to hear. That's when you guys play out by the way, So if if you're doing a set, you know, in a club or that type of situation, do you mix in some covers or maybe you have a backlog of originals that you haven't covered, I mean that you haven't recorded yet, But I mean, do you guys, do do any covers or do you stick to originals or what do you do?

26:49 Speaker 1: We mainly stick to originals.

26:51 Speaker 12: Just because like mainly the kind of circuit that we play as like mainly ticketed events where people are just like looking at here sort of original music. But because we kind of have kind of more zone than on a specific sound now, so we did have to kind of throw out a lot of our older songs. So we do throw in a couple of cover he did, and then, but mainly, like especially if we're not doing a headline show, we're just supporting someone and we've got half an hour, we only really want to do our own songs.

27:18 Speaker 8: Sure, no, that makes sense, That makes sense. Absolutely.

27:21 Speaker 3: Have you got an open for anybody, uh really any any sort of national or international touring acts yet going through your area?

27:30 Speaker 1: Not yet, but we're trying. Yeah, that's a dream.

27:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's kinda I want to be able.

27:36 Speaker 12: To, you know, go and you know, go out and travel somewhere in Europe and beyond, and you're like going a proper tour.

27:43 Speaker 1: That would be great.

27:43 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I think it's gonna happen for you. I mean, you guys are you're definitely going in the right direction. So and uh, like I said, these are such great songs and you know, keep putting out great music and keep doing what you're doing, and you'll you'll definitely continue to progress.

27:56 Speaker 8: I have no doubt about that. By the way, where does the name Flair come from?

28:02 Speaker 1: So it's a funny story.

28:04 Speaker 12: It's actually nowhere nears excited you think it's from the video game FIFA, okay, And it's basically it's like it was basically one of the one of the traits that you can put on like your created players is called flair, and it just means like they're a.

28:19 Speaker 1: Bit more skillful, a bit more flashy.

28:21 Speaker 8: Oh okay, Oh that's cool.

28:24 Speaker 1: It was actually that's the story. I've been told. It was actually already called flair before I joined the band, So oh.

28:31 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if that's what you were told, I mean it sounds like that's the official story.

28:36 Speaker 8: So that's cool. Good deal.

28:39 Speaker 3: So where should people Tony? Where should people go online to keep up with everything that you guys are doing. Where's the best place for people to go because you've got a lot of great stuff happening.

28:49 Speaker 12: So mainly we use Instagram right now, which are handled for that is at flair band, and.

28:56 Speaker 1: Then we use Twitter as well. That's at flair Band zero one.

29:00 Speaker 12: Four to one as well, And those are kind of the main two social medias that we're using right now to kind of like, you know, get out, like where we're going to be playing, what songs are coming out all that stuff.

29:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, but and do you have any any idea when the next single is gonna be out or I don't know if you've started have you started working on the on the next one yet, or I know you're focused on city Lights.

29:18 Speaker 1: But yeah, so once we're kind of done today at Lights, we do have.

29:24 Speaker 12: Either October or November that we're we're going in for two more recordings and we're gonna be looking to release them, you know, as soon as possible. Ones we've recorded them, so definitely by the end of the year, we'll have two more songs out.

29:35 Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. Well, we look forward to doing that, We look forward to hearing that, rather, I should say, and we look forward to playing those so fantastic. So I think what we're gonna do Tony is we will end the segment with I'm gonna play Runaway, which is another great track, and then I'm gonna cheat a little bit. I'm gonna play Runaway, but then I'm also gonna play City Lights one more time because I love that song so much and and selfishly I want to hear it.

29:56 Speaker 8: And plus you know how radio works.

29:57 Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's people who didn't hear the start of the show who are joining the show now so then they'll be able to hear it. But I that song is so addictive. It's one of those songs. It's you know, like a lot of people, I wake up with a song in my brain every morning, Like as soon as my eyes pop open, or as soon as I even start to wake up, there's something playing in my head. So I have this little playlist in my brain. And that's one of the songs that the first time I heard it. For several days after hearing it the first time, that's one of the songs that was stuck in my head when I would wake up in the morning, I would hear that.

30:28 Speaker 3: It's just so catchy, it's absolutely infectious. So after Runaway, I'm going to play that one more time as well. But we will definitely do this again in the future, because, like I said, you guys are on a very positive trajectory and happy to you know, we're happy to support you here on the American side anyway that we can. So Tony, we will let you go and I'm going to hit that track. But thank you so much for joining us today, and we'll talk again soon.

30:51 Speaker 8: I'm sure.

30:53 Speaker 1: Look forward to it. Thanks so much for having me.

30:55 Speaker 8: All right, Tony, you got it. Thank you.

30:56 Speaker 3: Take care, Bye bye bye bye, all right, wonderful. That was Tony Collum from the band Flair, And as promised, I'm gonna play this track. This is the first song that we ever played on the show from them. This is called Runaway. This is really good. And then I think I'm gonna sneak in city lights again because I love that song so much. And if you are just joining us, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we've got plenty more to come. Don't go anywhere, but let's give this a spin again. The band is Flair and this is called Runaway.

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32:01 Speaker 1: Run away for me?

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32:19 Speaker 6: You tho man, I throw me, I'm not names.

33:00 Speaker 7: I'm a fire see me higher so my higher place, my cosmic fear, and me.

33:10 Speaker 8: A tasty a fire.

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36:22 Speaker 7: To try to quick you to jar on my fingers now and real.

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39:39 Speaker 3: You are listening to Mattconnorton unleash wmn H ninety five point three. By the way, thanks again to our friend Dylan Reynolds from Adam Baum Art and Sound one. Make sure I'm getting that right. Sometimes I get the I get the name wrong. I keep wanting to say atomic.

40:07 Speaker 3: But Dylan is amazing. He did a bunch of the new imaging for us. So these new bumpers and everything that you're hearing, that's all our friend Dylan Reynolds, who's a very talented both musician and graphic artist and a sound artist, and and we love we love him he does. I want to make sure I have his website pulled up. I mean to do that ahead of time, and then I I forgot to do it. But we want to, you know, if we can help promote what he does in any way possible. We want to because he's a he's a great guy and so very talented, and we appreciate him.

40:37 Speaker 3: But we also appreciate of course Tony from the band Flair joining us all the way from Glasgow via Google Teams or Microsoft Teams whatever we call it.

40:45 Speaker 8: We don't have Skype anymore now, but that's okay, I miss it. No, I don't.

40:50 Speaker 3: Actually Teams works better anyway. That's what Peter is using too on the Morning Show and it's actually it's working pretty well.

40:56 Speaker 8: So so this is wonderful.

40:58 Speaker 3: Sometimes with Skype, you know, those those overseas Skype calls when we would have people from the UK, it wouldn't always work out. Most of the time it worked out, but sometimes it could be a little Skype could be a little bit glitchy. Why it went back maybe, I mean it was better toward the end than it was. I remember using Skype like twenty years ago or fifteen years ago, and it was awful.

41:25 Speaker 8: You know what was the worst though of all time?

41:27 Speaker 9: Is uh?

41:28 Speaker 3: And I think it still exists actually Google Hangouts, and I don't know, and I think it does still exist, and maybe they've improved that. But I remember trying to use Google Hangouts a number of years ago and being like, this is the most non intuitive, unuser friendly or user unfriendly meeting software ever Google Hangouts.

41:49 Speaker 8: And again it may they may have improved it.

41:51 Speaker 3: It was a long time ago the last time I tried to use it, but oh my god, what a nightmare Google Hangouts was.

41:57 Speaker 8: But anyway, but I remember really using that.

42:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it didn't. It didn't garner a great reputation as a as an app so to speak. But no Microsoft Teams though, so far, so good. It's working really really well, very easy, so we're happy about that. If you are just joining us, of course, this is Matt Connerton and Unleashed. We are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and you can stream us from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com, slash live for all your live streaming options and social media links, contact in foshow archives, et cetera, et cetera.

42:32 Speaker 3: It is Saturday July nineteen, twenty twenty five, so we did have Tony from Flair join us, and then of course in a little bit coming up in our number two for those of you listening live on Saturday, we have Lydia Ready, another great UK artist who's going to be joining us via Microsoft Teams to talk about her single which we did the world or the American radio premiere of that, I should say, to be precise a few weeks ago called turn this Town Around. So she's going to be joining us. And then in the third hour we have the Stiff Tones.

43:01 Speaker 3: Really looking forward to that. I think I see a member of the Stiff Tones in the chat room actually, so hello and really looking for I love their They've got a great, great sound. They sent us a couple of studio tracks and I was very impressed. So really looking forward to meeting them and having them in studio with us in our number three New Marrow Trace so busy show today by the way, so we did reference this at the top of the show and just kind of touched on it a little bit. But to explore this further for a couple of minutes, this is from the AP.

43:29 Speaker 3: Jane's Addiction bandmates sue each other over on stage fight that ended tour, and that's something that I missed when we were talking about it earlier. I was talking about how the other members suing Perry Ferrell because of what happened, but Farrell apparently is countersuing and what.

43:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, So.

43:47 Speaker 3: Here's what the AP is saying. The members of alt rock band Jane's Addiction filed dueling lawsuits Wednesday. So this just happened a few days ago over sing singer Perry Ferrell's on stage scuffle with guitar Dave Navarro at a Boston concert last year, prompting the cancelation of the rest of their reunion tour and planned album. I didn't even know they were planning to make an album.

44:09 Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

44:10 Speaker 3: Navarro, drummer Stephen Perkins, and bassist Eric Avery suit Ferrell in La Superior Court, alleging that Farrell's behavior on the tour had ranged from erratic to out of control, culminating in the assault where Ferrell punched Navarro both.

44:24 Speaker 8: On stage and backstage.

44:27 Speaker 3: And of course we only got to see the video of what happened on stage, but if you haven't seen it, you can find it on YouTube very easily. The suit says the three bandmates are seeking at least ten million dollars because, as I said earlier when we touched on it, when something like this happens and a big tour, even a small tour, you know, everybody who has any sort of fudiciary monetary involvement on a business level. Anybody, whether it's bandmates, whether it's the crew, whether it's management, the promoters, you know, anybody.

44:57 Speaker 3: Everybody takes a loss when things go wrong.

45:03 Speaker 3: So their lawsuit says, this is the three band members who are suing Perry Ferrell. Quote with a series of swift blows, he single handedly destroyed the name, reputation, trademark, and viability of the band and those who built it. Unquote Farrell and his wife Eddie E T t Y, Eddie Lu, Eddie Law, Eddie Lau l a u, Eddie Lao Ferrell. I don't know how to suit the three bandmates. I should just say I don't know how to say her name. I'm just going to refer to her as E by her first initial. Ferrell and his wife E sued the three bandmates in the same court later Wednesday, blaming them for the conflict and the violence.

45:47 Speaker 3: That's all their fault. Really, yeah, apparently the lawsuit. Here's what the lawsuit says. Quote Navarro, Avery and Perkins apparently decided that Jane's a Dicks decades of success should be jettisoned in pursuit of a year's long bullying campaign against Ferrell, involving harassing him on stage during performances, including, among other tactics, trying to undermine him by playing their instruments at a high volume so that he could not hear himself sing unquote. Interesting thing about that, and that's the whole Oh no, actually there's a little more to the article.

46:26 Speaker 3: But interesting thing about that. So that podcast that I was talking about earlier, where I can't remember the name of the podcast or the guy's name, but it's one of the crew guys who worked for Jane's Addiction, He did say that that was something that Perry Ferrell had complained about, and that that seemed to be what was making him angry on stage, is that the rest of the band was too loud. But in this era of in ear monitors and everything, the guy who said who was saying that that was he didn't agree with Perry Ferrell.

46:57 Speaker 3: He said, there was no reason why anything should have been too loud for him to be able to hear himself in his innier monitors, and that's that's not really a problem. Especially you know, again in twenty twenty five, everybody's got in your monitors. You don't even need stage volume. And this is something again people outside the industry don't.

47:14 Speaker 8: Know, you can.

47:15 Speaker 3: I mean those amps can be turned down to almost well yeah, almost. Whatever's coming out of the PA is what the uh what the crowd is hearing, and you know you're hearing whatever is in your your monitors, your monitor mix.

47:31 Speaker 10: They have their own volume control, I would imagine.

47:34 Speaker 8: Oh and they're in your monitors.

47:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you can. You know, the sound guy can mix. You're can if it's a sophisticated system, which I assume they have they.

47:43 Speaker 8: Had on this tour.

47:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the the sound guy, or you've got multiple sound guys in a case like this, right, and you might have one guy who's dedicated specifically to the monitor mix where he can program. This is why if you go on YouTube sometimes you can find you can actually find the monitor mixes that people have posted from different tours. For example, when the whole thing with Motley Crue, well, lots of things have gone down with Motley Crue over the years, but when when mc mars left and they were placed him with John five, and there were a lot of actors that mcmars was making accusations about, oh, the band doesn't really play in this and that, and how he carried them the whole time and whatever the thing about the click track, Yeah yeah, And then all these these in the ear monitor recordings started popping up on YouTube, so you could actually hear what mc mars was hearing in his monitor.

48:37 Speaker 3: There was a recording of it, and you could hear what the mix was. Really interesting stuff if if you're someone like me who finds that stuff. I find that stuff fascinating, but not everyone does. I'm probably getting way too into the weeds for some people.

48:51 Speaker 13: I don't understand why anybody would poo pooh on anybody doing something that makes them be able to play better, you know what I'm saying.

48:57 Speaker 10: Yeah, and I really feel like his lawsuits pretty frivolous.

49:02 Speaker 8: For Parry Ferrell's lawsuit. Yeah, I mean, well the video.

49:08 Speaker 13: Anybody watching the video is like, oh yeah, and he literally ruined everything.

49:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that video of what happened on stage is it's you know, it's hard to watch that and think, oh, uh, Navarro brought that on himself, you.

49:23 Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

49:24 Speaker 3: Like, like, Farrell's clearly the aggressor, and it.

49:27 Speaker 10: Is important to remember how many people are losing money. It's not just the band.

49:31 Speaker 3: Absolutely everybody absolutely, like I said, everybody involved, gets.

49:35 Speaker 10: Her whole crew how to go home.

49:37 Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, all the griffs, everybody that sets up, everybody that tears down.

49:41 Speaker 3: And they're not rich. You know, the band is rich. You know, they can afford to cancel a tour.

49:45 Speaker 10: Maybe maybe not.

49:46 Speaker 8: I mean well, Perry Ferrell certainly is, and Dave Navarro certainly is.

49:49 Speaker 3: I don't know about I don't know about Eric Avery and Stephen Perkins, but but but they probably have money.

49:54 Speaker 10: How much of their own money is that they have to put up for any of this? Like you know what I mean?

49:58 Speaker 13: Like, yeah, are they paying their own hotels? Are they booking things outside for themselves? But you don't know how far the rabbit hole is going to go. Oh, money gets long.

50:06 Speaker 3: So many people get affected. Yeah, absolutely, it says here the Farrells. The Farrells are claiming that Navarro and Avery actually assaulted them. Perry Ferrell said he was blindsided when the other members canceled the remaining fifteen shows of the tour and broke up the band without consulting him, costing all of them a great deal of money. That is one thing I did wonder about when the tour was canceled is there not. I mean, I'm sure efforts were made, because again, so much money is on the line.

50:35 Speaker 3: Was there not an effort made to do some sort of Maybe not, some sort of It sounds like arbitration issues some period.

50:44 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, maybe it was a situation where like Navarro, the others were like, forget it.

50:50 Speaker 10: I don't even want to do this anymore. It's not worth it. Yeah, I mean, because really it's.

50:55 Speaker 8: Not worth it.

50:56 Speaker 3: It also says here Perry Ferrell says his bandmates to fame him by publicly saying after the fight that he had mental health problems. Well, dude, stating the obvious. Jane's addiction was an essential part of the LA music scene in the late nineteen eighties. With their contribution of elements of punk, goth and psychedelic sounds and culture. They became a national phenomenon with hits including Jane Says and Ben Caught Stealing, and through their founding of the Lollapalooza tour, whose first incarnation they headlined in nineteen ninety one.

51:26 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they were part of the foundation of that.

51:29 Speaker 3: They started Lollapalooza. I did not know that very Ferrell started Lollapalooza really but not. Oh yeah, yeah, still I think he still owns it. He might have sold it, I'm not sure. The group broke up soon after, but returned several times in various incarnations. The twenty twenty four tour was the first time the original members had played together since twenty ten. Ferrell missed all seven of the group's rehearsals in the run up to the tour. His bandmate's lawsuit alleges and his behavior during the early shows range from a radicked out of control and by the way, that part the guy who did the podcast, who was on the crew, he said all, he confirmed all of that.

52:02 Speaker 3: The lawsuit says, quote, he struggled night tonight amid public concern for his well being and apparent intoxication. Perry forgot lyrics, lost his place in songs he had sung since the nineteen eighties, and mumbled rants as he drank from a wine bottle on stage. Unquote all very rock and roll and on brand, but not necessarily hunted. And he's a sixty five year old man, so it's like, let's chill on the partying right. The lawsuit says Ferrell was given many solutions to the volume problem, none of which he followed.

52:33 Speaker 3: Then, on September fourth, September thirteen, at Leaderbank Pavilion in Boston, in front of four thousand fans, videos partially captured Farrell lunging at Navarro. Okay, so we all know that part. Farrell alleges that when he was being restrained by a crew member, Avery punched him in the kidneys, and that both Avery and Navarro assaulted him and his wife backstage. Shortly after the fight. Ferrell, in a statement, apologized to his bandmates, especially Navarrow, for an excusable behavior.

52:57 Speaker 8: The bandmates.

52:58 Speaker 3: Lawyer Christopher Frost pointed to that apology in response to the Farh lawsuit, along with e EA's acknowledgment at the time and Instagram posts that her husband had clearly been the aggressor. Frost said in a statement, quote, if there is a question about what to believe, you can believe the video that we've all watched. The complaint from Perry, including his account of events backstage after the September thirteenth show, is revisionist history. It won't stand. Unquote. Both lawsuits allege assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress and breach of contract, among other things.

53:34 Speaker 3: According to the other band member's lawsuit quote, now the band will never have their revival tour to celebrate the album, the new album and forty plus years of deep complex start topping recordings, and said history will remember the band is suffering a swift and painful death at the hands of Farrell's unprovoked anger and complete lack of self control.

53:55 Speaker 8: So there you go.

53:57 Speaker 10: Sad ending that is.

53:59 Speaker 3: That is It is a sad ending to uh, you know, a legendary band. But uh, I don't I doubt there's any coming back from this. I mean, never say never. Never say never.

54:08 Speaker 10: But you know, like he's got drinking issues going on, Like who wants to work with that?

54:12 Speaker 3: Like I said, this is a job. He's a sixty five year old man. You know, when you're twenty five years old and you're partying too much and whatnot, people will kind of give you a pass, you know, and if you're a rock star, you might get away with it at thirty five, but when you're sixty five, it's like, chill, dude, go just you know you're in this. You're in an incredible position today too.

54:32 Speaker 13: Yeah, people aren't into the whole drinking, drugging party and thing that made up the eighties, right, the lates the seventies.

54:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, the sixties not as much, certainly. Yeah.

54:42 Speaker 1: No.

54:42 Speaker 10: In fact, today's kids drink less.

54:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, that is true.

54:46 Speaker 10: That well, that's why they're an.

54:48 Speaker 13: Increase in the amount of non alcoholic beverages that are offered. And you see places that have full on mocktail menus because the generations now And I don't think that's a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.

54:59 Speaker 8: Nope, I agree. I agree.

55:01 Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna hit this commercial break and then when we come back, if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up in the second hour, we have Lydia ready, who's gonna be joining us and talking about her great new single, Turn this Town Around. So we will see you on the other side of this stick around. We've got a lot of show left to go on this Saturday morning.

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