Matt Connarton Unleashed 7-19-25 hour 1

0:01 Speaker 1: If you're listening to Wumination.

0:05 Speaker 2: World premiere.

0:10 Speaker 3: For the first time on American radio, the brand new

0:13 Speaker 3: single from Moonlight Eclipse. This is called Lines.

0:26 Speaker 4: It's on We started now We're not at the end

0:30 Speaker 4: like you think you're gonna do.

0:32 Speaker 5: It all again.

0:36 Speaker 4: We're good and older, but our mind it starts shrink.

0:40 Speaker 4: He can just get his paper and a knife, his pen.

0:45 Speaker 4: Someone finds out, so we start to reassure them that

0:51 Speaker 4: we haven't lost our minds. But they don't even know

0:57 Speaker 4: the half of what she'll do.

1:00 Speaker 6: When they forget about the don't it's a little secret, ticky.

1:08 Speaker 7: Not it's all scarce and.

1:11 Speaker 8: Now I don't know to read.

1:14 Speaker 6: Jest when it's all scarce, the a again, dusky cup high.

1:38 Speaker 7: We need to stop and think.

1:40 Speaker 4: We can't get caught this way, they'll say we're dumping

1:45 Speaker 4: the head. Don't go to your room, up to your

1:50 Speaker 4: doors and I away changing your skin from white to red.

1:57 Speaker 4: You go too far this time, no point did you

2:00 Speaker 4: give it up.

2:02 Speaker 1: You can't just leave it all.

2:04 Speaker 6: Be high, and if you try to move on from

2:10 Speaker 6: the past that you'll still have to please all the

2:16 Speaker 6: it's a little secret taking it's a sin and I

2:23 Speaker 6: don't know the reason. Just get exact.

2:28 Speaker 9: It's all.

2:30 Speaker 6: It's almost only answer.

2:36 Speaker 7: So I just get out.

2:50 Speaker 1: Control.

2:50 Speaker 4: I'm stop. You want to come and cry and all

2:54 Speaker 4: about my problem wasn't perfect for worth it.

2:56 Speaker 3: It might have been.

3:00 Speaker 6: Just like I want to get him in it.

3:03 Speaker 4: Just at seven time, it's okay, noble guesting the.

3:08 Speaker 6: Cigaret between you and me. Get this subtle secrets ticking.

3:15 Speaker 6: So it's off the skin and I don't know how

3:19 Speaker 6: to read it. Don't just get exact. It's a whole,

3:25 Speaker 6: its skin only, it's a can's whatever.

3:31 Speaker 9: So just get.

3:44 Speaker 6: It's a dope.

3:46 Speaker 7: It's all gone thinks that you I help him, but

3:52 Speaker 7: you just help me write this song.

3:54 Speaker 6: It's up done, it's all gone wrong.

3:59 Speaker 4: I should well pace my issues, but turned back and

4:03 Speaker 4: welcome the talk show. It's all good.

4:09 Speaker 7: Think that's you Helton, just.

4:11 Speaker 6: Helping me right sore.

4:20 Speaker 8: So ucking skin insact.

4:24 Speaker 6: We just walt.

4:34 Speaker 10: Oh that is so good.

4:35 Speaker 3: Brand new from Moonlight Eclipse, a great young band, very

4:39 Speaker 3: young band from Ireland who we had on the show recently,

4:42 Speaker 3: and that is fantastic.

4:43 Speaker 8: That is called Lines.

4:44 Speaker 3: That is the first time you are hearing that on

4:46 Speaker 3: American radio. And we are so happy here at w

4:50 Speaker 3: M and H and of course on Matt Connorton Unleashed

4:52 Speaker 3: to be able to premiere that show.

4:54 Speaker 8: This is Matt Connorton.

4:55 Speaker 3: Unleased and we are live from the studios of w

4:59 Speaker 3: M n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,

5:01 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, streaming of course anywhere in the world that

5:04 Speaker 3: Matt Connerton dot Com slash live.

5:06 Speaker 8: Today is Saturday.

5:07 Speaker 3: July nineteen, twenty twenty five, and I am not alone.

5:18 Speaker 10: Jenny Morning Sunshine.

5:23 Speaker 8: Jenny is here at the news table.

5:25 Speaker 3: Presenton accounted for and in just a few minutes we're

5:29 Speaker 3: going to be joined via Microsoft Teams by members of

5:33 Speaker 3: the band Flair, and recently so we've debuted a couple

5:37 Speaker 3: of their songs, done a couple of American radio premieres

5:40 Speaker 3: for them as well, another great band from the UK.

5:44 Speaker 3: And first was their track Runaway, which was I don't

5:47 Speaker 3: know a few months ago now I lose track of time.

5:50 Speaker 3: And then recently we played city Lights, a song that

5:52 Speaker 3: I absolutely love, for the first time on American radio

5:55 Speaker 3: and we're gonna play that again in just a couple

5:57 Speaker 3: of minutes, and they are going to be joining us

5:59 Speaker 3: via Microsoft Teams to talk about that. In the second

6:03 Speaker 3: hour of the show today, we have Lydia ready also

6:05 Speaker 3: skyping in from or not skyping in see old Habits,

6:08 Speaker 3: also joining us via teams from the UK. And she's

6:13 Speaker 3: got a great track called Turn This Town Around. We

6:16 Speaker 3: played that on the show for the first time on

6:18 Speaker 3: American radio a few weeks ago, so she's gonna be

6:20 Speaker 3: joining us live.

6:21 Speaker 8: Looking forward to that.

6:22 Speaker 3: And then in the third hour today, we've got the

6:24 Speaker 3: Stiff Tones coming in live and they've got a couple

6:27 Speaker 3: of great studio tracks and I think they're even gonna

6:29 Speaker 3: they're gonna play for us if I'm not mistaken live

6:32 Speaker 3: in studio, So really looking forward to that as well.

6:34 Speaker 3: So they're really great. So welcome everybody. We do have

6:37 Speaker 3: an exciting show ahead for you. And by the way,

6:39 Speaker 3: we will play the if you missed it, we will

6:41 Speaker 3: play the new Moonlight eclip song again in the second

6:44 Speaker 3: and third hour today on the program as well. I

6:46 Speaker 3: love that so much. That is called lines. That is

6:49 Speaker 3: the radio edit. Of course you might have noticed as

6:51 Speaker 3: a word muted a few times during the song. So

6:56 Speaker 3: but because of course we do.

6:58 Speaker 8: I don't know what the rules are in the UK

7:00 Speaker 8: actually over here.

7:01 Speaker 3: Of course, in the United States we have to be

7:03 Speaker 3: mindful of you know, FCC regulations and so forth. So

7:07 Speaker 3: but they sent us the radio edit, I didn't have

7:09 Speaker 3: to make one. Occasionally I end up making my own

7:11 Speaker 3: radio edits for some of these guests that we have

7:13 Speaker 3: on the show if I really want to play something,

7:14 Speaker 3: but they don't have a radio edit ready.

7:16 Speaker 8: But but but of course they did.

7:17 Speaker 3: They're very professional and everybody we get from Big GPR overseas,

7:23 Speaker 3: Gary and Eden, everybody they send us is absolutely amazing.

7:27 Speaker 3: So we're really glad to partner up with them, and

7:30 Speaker 3: they send us all this amazing talent. Uh, let's see,

7:34 Speaker 3: Oh if we get to it, so we'll see if

7:36 Speaker 3: we have time today or not. But there was an

7:38 Speaker 3: interesting story in the news. If you haven't seen this,

7:39 Speaker 3: you should take a moment and google it because when

7:43 Speaker 3: it initially happened, we talked about it on the show.

7:46 Speaker 3: You remember when Jane's Addiction on their reunion tour, they

7:49 Speaker 3: were playing that they they're playing in Boston, I forget

7:51 Speaker 3: what Yeah, what what venue?

7:54 Speaker 8: And a fight.

7:56 Speaker 3: A fight broke out, not in the crowd but on

7:58 Speaker 3: stage between Perry Ferrell and Dave Navarro. Or Perry was

8:03 Speaker 3: really the one fighting. Navarro was just kind of trying

8:05 Speaker 3: to defend himself and back up. And now there is

8:09 Speaker 3: a lawsuit members of Jane's Addiction suing Perry Ferrell over that,

8:15 Speaker 3: and maybe we'll talk about that later in the show,

8:18 Speaker 3: if we get to it. But it's just an interesting story.

8:23 Speaker 3: People who don't understand this, or who just don't know

8:26 Speaker 3: who might be outside the business that And I know

8:28 Speaker 3: a lot of industry people listen to the show, but

8:31 Speaker 3: people outside the business might not realize this when something

8:34 Speaker 3: like that happens. I mean, millions of dollars are at stake, right,

8:38 Speaker 3: so much money is lost. If you're so safe for example,

8:42 Speaker 3: and not to take sides necessarily, but if you're Dave

8:46 Speaker 3: Navarro or one of the other members of Jane's Addiction

8:49 Speaker 3: and you're on this tour or you're involved in the

8:52 Speaker 3: tour in any way on a business level, and all

8:55 Speaker 3: of a sudden the tour is canceled for whatever reason,

8:59 Speaker 3: that's a lot a lot of money that is lost,

9:02 Speaker 3: not only an income, but it really screws things up

9:05 Speaker 3: for everybody involved, promoters and management and anybody who has

9:11 Speaker 3: any kind of fiduciary commitment involved here or connection with

9:15 Speaker 3: what's happening.

9:17 Speaker 8: It screws over a lot of people.

9:20 Speaker 3: So so now there's a lawsuit against Perry Ferrell because

9:24 Speaker 3: he's the one who who wrecked everything. And again I

9:27 Speaker 3: know there's he and his wife have explanations and rationalizations

9:32 Speaker 3: for why he was behaving the way that he was

9:34 Speaker 3: and what caused his anger and him to lose his

9:39 Speaker 3: temper on stage. But but you know, a lot of

9:42 Speaker 3: money gets lost. I remember right after that happened, right

9:45 Speaker 3: after the fight happened. I can't remember his name now,

9:47 Speaker 3: but there's a guy he's based in Boston, I think who.

9:54 Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of his podcast either. It's

9:56 Speaker 3: funny too, because at the time I kind of made

9:58 Speaker 3: a mental note of it. I was like, geez, I

10:00 Speaker 3: gotta I gotta pay more attention to this guy because

10:02 Speaker 3: he does really good content. Now I can't even remember

10:04 Speaker 3: his name, but he was there working as he was

10:09 Speaker 3: on that tour, I think, working as a sound tech.

10:11 Speaker 3: And I don't think he was a sound guy. I

10:13 Speaker 3: think he was he was either the guitar tech or

10:15 Speaker 3: the bass tech, and so he saw the whole thing happen.

10:18 Speaker 3: He witnessed the whole thing, so he kind of told

10:21 Speaker 3: his version of events from up close.

10:27 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was I mean, I don't know if you

10:31 Speaker 10: want to get too far into.

10:32 Speaker 3: It, but no, no, no, because we don't have time.

10:34 Speaker 3: But we'll we'll come back to it. But let's see.

10:37 Speaker 3: So we have Flair is on the line, members of

10:41 Speaker 3: the band Flair. But what we're going to do first

10:43 Speaker 3: is if those guys can hang out for a minute,

10:45 Speaker 3: we're gonna go ahead and play this track city Lights,

10:48 Speaker 3: the brand new single from Flair, and then we're going

10:50 Speaker 3: to talk to those guys and then I think at

10:51 Speaker 3: the end of the segment, we'll close the segment out

10:53 Speaker 3: with Runaway, which is the first track that we played

10:55 Speaker 3: from them, which is also a great song.

10:57 Speaker 8: But check this out.

10:58 Speaker 3: This is brand new or newish out recently, but we

11:00 Speaker 3: gave it the American radio premiere here on Matt connorton Unleashed.

11:04 Speaker 3: This is city Lights, this is Flair, and then we're

11:06 Speaker 3: going to talk to these guys on the other side.

11:08 Speaker 3: But this is such a great song. Let's give this

11:12 Speaker 3: a spin.

11:58 Speaker 1: Then, And you.

12:06 Speaker 11: Love me.

12:08 Speaker 6: Like I need you to know, Pat, don't take your figures.

12:13 Speaker 6: How a transient of money is a feeling like a

12:16 Speaker 6: nice say you out lot, I need you all the time,

12:22 Speaker 6: staying with your waist. Came she had to see.

12:28 Speaker 9: Time my house, so.

12:29 Speaker 6: I came so I can see you sing somebody know

12:34 Speaker 6: the change.

12:35 Speaker 7: She can't me same try to quick you show my

13:01 Speaker 7: face now and real too.

13:07 Speaker 6: Tep just went the fun house, babing lot to take

13:11 Speaker 6: a make of something you chansy.

13:14 Speaker 7: They use a feel like.

13:15 Speaker 6: You're all take you out of the let you all

13:20 Speaker 6: the time, straining with you where you go. Just have

13:25 Speaker 6: to see that front of my house and came and

13:29 Speaker 6: said somebody can see it and say the bus some

13:32 Speaker 6: mony other change just you can't.

13:35 Speaker 10: On the same.

13:39 Speaker 6: Just had the seasons man by in my house and

13:44 Speaker 6: gamble shut. Somebody can see your sacs the brother change

13:49 Speaker 6: you cannot the same time time the baby you're killing

14:53 Speaker 6: me high can sell sist time one some time s say.

15:02 Speaker 7: Drink because she can't.

15:05 Speaker 6: Say cause I have to say that you have something

15:13 Speaker 6: some say saying that dressing song same same sat say.

16:12 Speaker 3: I love every single thing about that song. That is

16:15 Speaker 3: city Lights. That is the newest single single from Flair.

16:18 Speaker 3: I love it so much I can't even say single.

16:21 Speaker 3: You're on Matt Connorton unleashed and we've got so hopefully

16:25 Speaker 3: he's still there. Tony from the band I believe, has

16:28 Speaker 3: joined us via Microsoft Teams Tony, are you there?

16:32 Speaker 1: Yeah?

16:32 Speaker 8: I'm here.

16:32 Speaker 1: How are you doing?

16:33 Speaker 8: Hey? How are you?

16:34 Speaker 1: Man?

16:34 Speaker 8: Is it just you or is anybody else with you?

16:38 Speaker 8: Just me today?

16:39 Speaker 1: Everyone else is working on a Saturday.

16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I completely understand. Welcome to the show. I

16:45 Speaker 3: love that song so much. By the way, we should

16:47 Speaker 3: mention too, you are the vocalist and how do you

16:50 Speaker 3: say your last name?

16:53 Speaker 1: Call him? It's like Gollum from Lord of the Call him.

16:56 Speaker 8: Okay, cool, cool? Hey, I love that song so much.

17:00 Speaker 3: We also played I think it was a couple of

17:02 Speaker 3: months ago now the Time gets Away from Me. But

17:03 Speaker 3: run Away, which h that was the first song of

17:06 Speaker 3: yours that we played. Another another great track, but city

17:08 Speaker 3: Lights is amazing. That is so very catchy. Are you

17:12 Speaker 3: Are you getting any traction with that at radio over there?

17:15 Speaker 3: I would imagine you are. If you're not, I'm sure

17:17 Speaker 3: it's coming.

17:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

17:19 Speaker 12: We got an email recently saying that, like in the

17:22 Speaker 12: first week of it being released, it been on about

17:25 Speaker 12: sixty different shows over here, so it's doing pretty good

17:29 Speaker 12: so far, you know, and Spotify streams will hopefully be

17:32 Speaker 12: catching up with that as well soon.

17:34 Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, I'm not surprised because it's a

17:37 Speaker 3: very very strong track, very catchy. And then so now

17:42 Speaker 3: is that from the EP, because you guys have an

17:44 Speaker 3: EP out right.

17:46 Speaker 12: Yeah, no, so this one's just a single. Our EP

17:50 Speaker 12: which came out a couple of months ago.

17:51 Speaker 8: Now that was that.

17:52 Speaker 1: Included our songs Runaway, Sackering and.

17:55 Speaker 3: Swan Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, so those are on an EP. Now,

17:58 Speaker 3: so is city Lights going to be on? Are you

18:00 Speaker 3: working on another EP or is this going to remain

18:02 Speaker 3: a standalone single or or do you even know yet?

18:06 Speaker 12: Well, we've got a couple of more studio stations booth

18:10 Speaker 12: in a couple of months where we'll get another couple

18:13 Speaker 12: of songs done and from there I able to say

18:16 Speaker 12: that they will include that's another EP or if we

18:19 Speaker 12: want to maybe use those two and another one.

18:21 Speaker 1: So still be decided.

18:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, how you know, and this is this

18:26 Speaker 3: is truer than it's ever been. There so many different

18:28 Speaker 3: ways to approach it now in terms of how you

18:30 Speaker 3: release how you release music, whether you do a single,

18:32 Speaker 3: whether you do an EP or a full album, or

18:35 Speaker 3: you can release a series of singles that eventually become

18:37 Speaker 3: an EP or an album. It's there's a lot of

18:39 Speaker 3: different ways to do it now, and but this is

18:41 Speaker 3: such a song, a strong track. Now, who wrote Who

18:44 Speaker 3: wrote city Lights? Did you guys write it together or

18:47 Speaker 3: did you write it or what's the what's the process

18:50 Speaker 3: like in the band as far as songwriting, Well, for a.

18:54 Speaker 12: Lot of our songs, it kind of comes from us

18:56 Speaker 12: in practications and just jamming together. So something kind of

19:00 Speaker 12: and it'll be okay to get in a rhythm. But

19:02 Speaker 12: for this one particularly, it was actually I went to

19:06 Speaker 12: our bass player, Johnny's house and sort of just like

19:10 Speaker 12: a late night kind of songwriting station in the two

19:12 Speaker 12: of us kind of came up with the music and

19:13 Speaker 12: the lyrics together, mainly me lyrics and have music.

19:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's got a it's got a great

19:20 Speaker 3: vibe and it really kind of I'm curious is it

19:22 Speaker 3: about This might be a silly question, but is it

19:25 Speaker 3: about any particular city?

19:26 Speaker 1: Uh?

19:27 Speaker 3: And part of why I ask that is I'm someone

19:29 Speaker 3: who and maybe this is part of why the song

19:30 Speaker 3: appeals to me so much I love Jenny knows this

19:33 Speaker 3: about me. I love images of city skylines at night.

19:37 Speaker 3: I just and it is some are prettier than others,

19:40 Speaker 3: but it can really be any city. I just I

19:41 Speaker 3: love I love looking at city skylines at night. I

19:44 Speaker 3: love you know, the city lights.

19:45 Speaker 8: Is Is there any.

19:46 Speaker 3: Particular city that you had in mind when you wrote

19:49 Speaker 3: this or is it? Am I am I thinking?

19:52 Speaker 8: Uh?

19:52 Speaker 1: Am?

19:52 Speaker 3: I getting too granular in terms of my analysis of

19:55 Speaker 3: the song.

19:57 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm right there with you, man.

19:58 Speaker 12: It's well, it's definitely inspired by our hometown, Glasgow and

20:02 Speaker 12: here in Scotland. Yeah, but a lot of it's really

20:06 Speaker 12: like just like generals, it's a lot of it's kind

20:08 Speaker 12: of about mental health as well, and you know, like

20:11 Speaker 12: try to get away from all that kind of stuff too,

20:13 Speaker 12: so that's sort of part of its generalized.

20:16 Speaker 1: But it's definitely a lot of inspiration from Glasgow too.

20:19 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, And can you talk to me more about

20:21 Speaker 3: the mental health aspect of of what the song is about,

20:25 Speaker 3: because that's also something that we talk about a lot

20:28 Speaker 3: on this show. I'm a certified hypnotherapist, so I help

20:31 Speaker 3: people deal with some issues and and uh, you know,

20:34 Speaker 3: and I'm someone who I myself struggle with depression, so

20:37 Speaker 3: I know all too well how you know mental health,

20:41 Speaker 3: how how it affects so many people, And and maybe

20:44 Speaker 3: that's another thing that kind of subconsciously that I connect

20:48 Speaker 3: with with the song. But but can you can you

20:51 Speaker 3: kind of expand on that a little bit?

20:54 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Well, when I can write lyrics, I usually

20:57 Speaker 12: do it based on path experiences. Are find easy to

21:00 Speaker 12: reflect on them that way and kind of get you know,

21:03 Speaker 12: put words to it easier. So like that at the

21:07 Speaker 12: time of writing, I didn't feel this way, but like

21:09 Speaker 12: it reflects back on a time where I was feeling

21:12 Speaker 12: very anxious and not in the best place, and like

21:16 Speaker 12: at the time I wouldn't be able to like come

21:18 Speaker 12: up with those kind of lyrics. But like that's exactly

21:20 Speaker 12: like I couldn't stand being around people all this hustle

21:23 Speaker 12: and bustle. I want to just, you know, get away,

21:25 Speaker 12: go somewhere quiet where I could be alone.

21:27 Speaker 8: Mm hmmm hmm, yeah, I can.

21:29 Speaker 3: I can relate to that. I think everybody you know,

21:33 Speaker 3: I think that's uh, I think that's very very relatable.

21:36 Speaker 3: Do you find that, I mean just generally does does

21:40 Speaker 3: writing and performing music does that help you in terms

21:43 Speaker 3: of your own you know, whether you know you mentioned

21:46 Speaker 3: that at one point, you know you're feeling very anxious

21:48 Speaker 3: and whatnot.

21:48 Speaker 8: I mean is that kind of.

21:49 Speaker 3: Because I always feel like creativity is the best therapy,

21:53 Speaker 3: right if you can, if you can take things that

21:55 Speaker 3: are bothering you and create something out of them, or

21:57 Speaker 3: if they spur you, or maybe it's not even maybe

22:00 Speaker 3: what you create it has nothing to do with what's

22:01 Speaker 3: bothering you necessarily, but you're just creating something as a

22:04 Speaker 3: way of kind of getting through that, you know, the

22:08 Speaker 3: malaise or whatever it is.

22:11 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, Like I think I've always thought it's a

22:13 Speaker 12: very therapeutic way of getting like how you're feeling out there,

22:16 Speaker 12: and like I find like reflection on sort of even

22:20 Speaker 12: past emotions a good way, you know, even after a

22:22 Speaker 12: while finally you know, help yourself get a root cause

22:25 Speaker 12: of it, just looking and within yourself.

22:27 Speaker 1: But even at the same time, if it's not, as

22:29 Speaker 1: you said.

22:30 Speaker 12: Directly addressed and an issue you're havn't, it's a good

22:32 Speaker 12: distraction as well, I think.

22:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Now when you brought city Lights to

22:37 Speaker 3: the other guys, because you and and Johnny wrote this.

22:41 Speaker 3: What did they were they into it immediately? Were they like, oh,

22:44 Speaker 3: this is this is a hit? Or what did what

22:45 Speaker 3: did they think?

22:47 Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, this is actually a song that we've been

22:49 Speaker 1: playing on stage for probably well over a year now.

22:52 Speaker 12: Okay, it's definitely we had tried to release it a

22:57 Speaker 12: couple of times before. Yeah, but I just felt like,

23:01 Speaker 12: you know, there's something messing from it. So it certainly

23:03 Speaker 12: took a lot of wik to get to the version

23:05 Speaker 12: that you just played there.

23:07 Speaker 8: Yeah.

23:08 Speaker 3: The I'm curious about the production too, and I'm kind

23:11 Speaker 3: of a recording nerd. There's there's some very there's a

23:15 Speaker 3: lot of nuance here. You know, it's not like you

23:16 Speaker 3: guys just went in obviously and just you know, you

23:19 Speaker 3: just play the track and and and you know, there's

23:22 Speaker 3: there's some production flourishes, shall we say, especially.

23:25 Speaker 8: At the end.

23:25 Speaker 3: The way that it ends is so cool and it's

23:27 Speaker 3: very it's very sort of atmospheric.

23:30 Speaker 9: Is it?

23:31 Speaker 3: And actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Runaway is

23:33 Speaker 3: kind of like that too. Have you been working with

23:35 Speaker 3: the same producer and recording engineers uh this whole time?

23:39 Speaker 3: Or or is is it a I'm curious about your

23:43 Speaker 3: your approach in terms of recording these songs, because like

23:45 Speaker 3: I said, it's you know, you're not You're not just

23:47 Speaker 3: going into a studio and handing somebody a bunch of

23:49 Speaker 3: money and just recording, and you know there's more going

23:52 Speaker 3: on there. The production is is pretty sophisticated.

23:57 Speaker 12: Oh, I appreciate that, thank you, And we like to

23:59 Speaker 12: think that we phone some good producers over the years.

24:02 Speaker 1: But like.

24:04 Speaker 12: Runaway in City Lights were actually recorded by two different people.

24:08 Speaker 12: But I think the SIMILARI is definitely just the kind

24:10 Speaker 12: of sounds that we are trying.

24:11 Speaker 1: To capture right now.

24:13 Speaker 12: But I think that you know, we went to a

24:15 Speaker 12: producer over in Edinburgh for City Lights and I think

24:18 Speaker 12: he was just like, it's a much later sort of

24:22 Speaker 12: fabe to run Away Runaways, I'd say, a bit darker,

24:24 Speaker 12: more mysterious kind of sounding. But I think like both,

24:29 Speaker 12: like both producers were able to find the like the

24:31 Speaker 12: exact kind of tone that we were looking for.

24:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, each song, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

24:38 Speaker 3: By the way, So what's the situation in Glasgow as

24:40 Speaker 3: far as the music scene there, I would imagine there's

24:42 Speaker 3: a it seems like Glasgow is a city that we

24:45 Speaker 3: hear a lot about at least in the US that

24:47 Speaker 3: we hear a lot about in the UK where there's

24:49 Speaker 3: a lot going on.

24:51 Speaker 8: Musically.

24:52 Speaker 3: I mean, is is that true? Is my perception true?

24:54 Speaker 3: Is is there a lot of really good, really good

24:57 Speaker 3: bands and solo artists in Glasgow?

25:00 Speaker 12: Absolutely every time that we play a gig, like, I'm

25:03 Speaker 12: always impressed by at least one of the other bands

25:06 Speaker 12: that we're playing with. There's so many talented artists were

25:09 Speaker 12: especially like the sort of like rock and indy scene

25:12 Speaker 12: that there's so many like cool venues like King Tut's

25:15 Speaker 12: is like a legend of the place here. That's where

25:18 Speaker 12: Oasis were discovered and so like that's like it's almost

25:20 Speaker 12: like a mecca for like bands in Scotland to like

25:23 Speaker 12: come like.

25:24 Speaker 1: To go and play there.

25:26 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can imagine. And then so what's what's

25:31 Speaker 3: the live situation? Like what's are you guys able to

25:34 Speaker 3: get out and tour? Do you play shows in your

25:36 Speaker 3: area or do you do you do you hit the road?

25:38 Speaker 9: What?

25:39 Speaker 3: What's obviously you know we're in the time of year

25:41 Speaker 3: when this is when everybody wants to be out touring, Right,

25:44 Speaker 3: how's that been for you guys?

25:47 Speaker 12: Well thought the first couple of years we were like

25:49 Speaker 12: we're stuck in the mud, like we were only getting

25:52 Speaker 12: Glasgow shows, which was great because, like I said, the

25:53 Speaker 12: music scene in Glasgow is amazing.

25:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, but.

25:57 Speaker 1: I'd say about a year ago with you know, we've been.

26:00 Speaker 12: Down so if we went to England, we've done you know, Manchester, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham,

26:06 Speaker 12: a few other places at Newcastle as well. And we've

26:10 Speaker 12: still got a lot more book for the rest of

26:11 Speaker 12: this year and finally starting to get some festivals in

26:14 Speaker 12: two so good.

26:17 Speaker 1: It's been at a satme time.

26:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, festivals are definitely where it's at in terms of

26:20 Speaker 3: getting exposure and and and building a fan base in

26:24 Speaker 3: terms of your your your live presentation. So that's that's great.

26:28 Speaker 3: That's really good to hear. That's when you guys play

26:31 Speaker 3: out by the way, So if if you're doing a set,

26:33 Speaker 3: you know, in a club or that type of situation,

26:35 Speaker 3: do you mix in some covers or maybe you have

26:39 Speaker 3: a backlog of originals that you haven't covered, I mean

26:42 Speaker 3: that you haven't recorded yet, But I mean, do you guys,

26:45 Speaker 3: do do any covers or do you stick to originals

26:47 Speaker 3: or what do you do?

26:49 Speaker 1: We mainly stick to originals.

26:51 Speaker 12: Just because like mainly the kind of circuit that we

26:54 Speaker 12: play as like mainly ticketed events where people are just

26:57 Speaker 12: like looking at here sort of original music. But because

27:00 Speaker 12: we kind of have kind of more zone than on

27:03 Speaker 12: a specific sound now, so we did have to kind

27:05 Speaker 12: of throw out a lot of our older songs. So

27:07 Speaker 12: we do throw in a couple of cover he did,

27:09 Speaker 12: and then, but mainly, like especially if we're not doing

27:12 Speaker 12: a headline show, we're just supporting someone and we've got

27:15 Speaker 12: half an hour, we only really want to do our

27:17 Speaker 12: own songs.

27:18 Speaker 8: Sure, no, that makes sense, That makes sense. Absolutely.

27:21 Speaker 3: Have you got an open for anybody, uh really any

27:25 Speaker 3: any sort of national or international touring acts yet going

27:28 Speaker 3: through your area?

27:30 Speaker 1: Not yet, but we're trying. Yeah, that's a dream.

27:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's kinda I want to be able.

27:36 Speaker 12: To, you know, go and you know, go out and

27:39 Speaker 12: travel somewhere in Europe and beyond, and you're like going

27:42 Speaker 12: a proper tour.

27:43 Speaker 1: That would be great.

27:43 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I think it's gonna happen for you.

27:46 Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are you're definitely going in the

27:47 Speaker 3: right direction. So and uh, like I said, these are

27:50 Speaker 3: such great songs and you know, keep putting out great

27:52 Speaker 3: music and keep doing what you're doing, and you'll you'll

27:54 Speaker 3: definitely continue to progress.

27:56 Speaker 8: I have no doubt about that. By the way, where

28:00 Speaker 8: does the name Flair come from?

28:02 Speaker 1: So it's a funny story.

28:04 Speaker 12: It's actually nowhere nears excited you think it's from the

28:08 Speaker 12: video game FIFA, okay, And it's basically it's like it

28:12 Speaker 12: was basically one of the one of the traits that

28:14 Speaker 12: you can put on like your created players is called flair,

28:18 Speaker 12: and it just means like they're a.

28:19 Speaker 1: Bit more skillful, a bit more flashy.

28:21 Speaker 8: Oh okay, Oh that's cool.

28:24 Speaker 1: It was actually that's the story. I've been told. It

28:27 Speaker 1: was actually already called flair before I joined the band,

28:30 Speaker 1: So oh.

28:31 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if that's what you were told, I mean

28:34 Speaker 3: it sounds like that's the official story.

28:36 Speaker 8: So that's cool. Good deal.

28:39 Speaker 3: So where should people Tony? Where should people go online

28:43 Speaker 3: to keep up with everything that you guys are doing.

28:45 Speaker 3: Where's the best place for people to go because you've

28:46 Speaker 3: got a lot of great stuff happening.

28:49 Speaker 12: So mainly we use Instagram right now, which are handled

28:53 Speaker 12: for that is at flair band, and.

28:56 Speaker 1: Then we use Twitter as well. That's at flair Band

29:00 Speaker 1: zero one.

29:00 Speaker 12: Four to one as well, And those are kind of

29:02 Speaker 12: the main two social medias that we're using right now

29:05 Speaker 12: to kind of like, you know, get out, like where

29:07 Speaker 12: we're going to be playing, what songs are coming out

29:08 Speaker 12: all that stuff.

29:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, but and do you have any any idea when

29:12 Speaker 3: the next single is gonna be out or I don't

29:14 Speaker 3: know if you've started have you started working on the

29:15 Speaker 3: on the next one yet, or I know you're focused

29:17 Speaker 3: on city Lights.

29:18 Speaker 1: But yeah, so once we're kind of done today at Lights,

29:21 Speaker 1: we do have.

29:24 Speaker 12: Either October or November that we're we're going in for

29:26 Speaker 12: two more recordings and we're gonna be looking to release them,

29:30 Speaker 12: you know, as soon as possible. Ones we've recorded them,

29:32 Speaker 12: so definitely by the end of the year, we'll have

29:34 Speaker 12: two more songs out.

29:35 Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. Well, we look forward to doing that, We

29:38 Speaker 3: look forward to hearing that, rather, I should say, and

29:39 Speaker 3: we look forward to playing those so fantastic. So I

29:42 Speaker 3: think what we're gonna do Tony is we will end

29:44 Speaker 3: the segment with I'm gonna play Runaway, which is another

29:47 Speaker 3: great track, and then I'm gonna cheat a little bit.

29:49 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play Runaway, but then I'm also gonna play

29:51 Speaker 3: City Lights one more time because I love that song

29:53 Speaker 3: so much and and selfishly I want to hear it.

29:56 Speaker 8: And plus you know how radio works.

29:57 Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's people who didn't hear the start

29:59 Speaker 3: of the show who are joining the show now so

30:01 Speaker 3: then they'll be able to hear it. But I that

30:03 Speaker 3: song is so addictive. It's one of those songs. It's

30:05 Speaker 3: you know, like a lot of people, I wake up

30:07 Speaker 3: with a song in my brain every morning, Like as

30:10 Speaker 3: soon as my eyes pop open, or as soon as

30:12 Speaker 3: I even start to wake up, there's something playing in

30:13 Speaker 3: my head. So I have this little playlist in my brain.

30:17 Speaker 3: And that's one of the songs that the first time

30:20 Speaker 3: I heard it. For several days after hearing it the

30:23 Speaker 3: first time, that's one of the songs that was stuck

30:25 Speaker 3: in my head when I would wake up in the morning,

30:27 Speaker 3: I would hear that. It's just so catchy, it's absolutely infectious.

30:30 Speaker 3: So after Runaway, I'm going to play that one more

30:32 Speaker 3: time as well. But we will definitely do this again

30:36 Speaker 3: in the future, because, like I said, you guys are

30:37 Speaker 3: on a very positive trajectory and happy to you know,

30:41 Speaker 3: we're happy to support you here on the American side

30:43 Speaker 3: anyway that we can. So Tony, we will let you

30:46 Speaker 3: go and I'm going to hit that track. But thank

30:48 Speaker 3: you so much for joining us today, and we'll talk

30:51 Speaker 3: again soon.

30:51 Speaker 8: I'm sure.

30:53 Speaker 1: Look forward to it. Thanks so much for having me.

30:55 Speaker 8: All right, Tony, you got it. Thank you.

30:56 Speaker 3: Take care, Bye bye bye bye, all right, wonderful. That

31:01 Speaker 3: was Tony Collum from the band Flair, And as promised,

31:05 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play this track. This is the first song

31:07 Speaker 3: that we ever played on the show from them. This

31:08 Speaker 3: is called Runaway. This is really good. And then I

31:10 Speaker 3: think I'm gonna sneak in city lights again because I

31:13 Speaker 3: love that song so much. And if you are just

31:15 Speaker 3: joining us, this is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we've got

31:18 Speaker 3: plenty more to come. Don't go anywhere, but let's give

31:20 Speaker 3: this a spin again. The band is Flair and this

31:23 Speaker 3: is called Runaway.

31:55 Speaker 7: No, lie, won't you.

32:01 Speaker 1: Run away for me?

32:06 Speaker 5: All these thoughts come out of my head let. I'm

32:11 Speaker 5: wi you there, transers, I expecimens.

32:19 Speaker 6: You tho man, I throw me, I'm not names.

33:00 Speaker 7: I'm a fire see me higher so my higher place,

33:08 Speaker 7: my cosmic fear, and me.

33:10 Speaker 8: A tasty a fire.

33:13 Speaker 7: You can wire, so.

33:16 Speaker 10: The book keeping me in son, you can't run innfday

33:20 Speaker 10: you so big.

33:27 Speaker 6: To stay listen to the wind, says AM, telling me

33:36 Speaker 6: man why you stand tos contil just blowing sad songs

34:10 Speaker 6: when some resists, when some sms so.

35:23 Speaker 7: Breeze and I'm swow ma.

35:26 Speaker 10: You may, but you don't.

35:32 Speaker 9: Know me.

35:34 Speaker 6: Like I need your tone, know not don't take your

35:38 Speaker 6: figures something transient the money is. I feel like a

35:42 Speaker 6: LAEO see you other lo I need you all all

35:47 Speaker 6: the time.

35:48 Speaker 7: Tad with your waist.

35:50 Speaker 6: Came out to see you like trying in my house.

35:55 Speaker 6: I came books so I can see it. I'm sating cross.

35:58 Speaker 6: Don'tbody know the changing The peers can't be happy save.

36:22 Speaker 7: To try to quick you to jar on my fingers

36:28 Speaker 7: now and real.

36:31 Speaker 6: Too tepnature twenty five. I was living low to take

36:37 Speaker 6: and making something you chant us something like a well

36:43 Speaker 6: take you out to all at the town, straining with

36:48 Speaker 6: you where you go.

36:50 Speaker 8: Just had to see that.

36:53 Speaker 6: Found in my house, so d to see it saying

36:57 Speaker 6: about somebody trying to change. It's a general had the same,

37:05 Speaker 6: says I, ses I seen something said someone to see

37:13 Speaker 6: the brother dreams ge.

37:17 Speaker 1: Same the baby.

38:17 Speaker 7: You're killing me, hag cass An.

38:20 Speaker 6: Say Dau she killed Say cause I say that something,

38:38 Speaker 6: say say that, dreams sord saying same s I'll say.

39:39 Speaker 3: You are listening to Mattconnorton unleash wmn H ninety five

39:44 Speaker 3: point three. By the way, thanks again to our friend

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40:00 Speaker 3: sure I'm getting that right. Sometimes I get the I

40:02 Speaker 3: get the name wrong. I keep wanting to say atomic.

40:07 Speaker 3: But Dylan is amazing. He did a bunch of the

40:09 Speaker 3: new imaging for us. So these new bumpers and everything

40:11 Speaker 3: that you're hearing, that's all our friend Dylan Reynolds, who's

40:13 Speaker 3: a very talented both musician and graphic artist and a

40:17 Speaker 3: sound artist, and and we love we love him he does.

40:22 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I have his website pulled up.

40:24 Speaker 3: I mean to do that ahead of time, and then

40:26 Speaker 3: I I forgot to do it. But we want to,

40:29 Speaker 3: you know, if we can help promote what he does

40:31 Speaker 3: in any way possible. We want to because he's a

40:33 Speaker 3: he's a great guy and so very talented, and we

40:36 Speaker 3: appreciate him. But we also appreciate of course Tony from

40:39 Speaker 3: the band Flair joining us all the way from Glasgow

40:42 Speaker 3: via Google Teams or Microsoft Teams whatever we call it.

40:45 Speaker 8: We don't have Skype anymore now, but that's okay, I

40:49 Speaker 8: miss it. No, I don't.

40:50 Speaker 3: Actually Teams works better anyway. That's what Peter is using

40:52 Speaker 3: too on the Morning Show and it's actually it's working

40:56 Speaker 3: pretty well.

40:56 Speaker 8: So so this is wonderful.

40:58 Speaker 3: Sometimes with Skype, you know, those those overseas Skype calls

41:04 Speaker 3: when we would have people from the UK, it wouldn't

41:06 Speaker 3: always work out. Most of the time it worked out,

41:10 Speaker 3: but sometimes it could be a little Skype could be

41:13 Speaker 3: a little bit glitchy. Why it went back maybe, I

41:17 Speaker 3: mean it was better toward the end than it was.

41:20 Speaker 3: I remember using Skype like twenty years ago or fifteen

41:23 Speaker 3: years ago, and it was awful.

41:25 Speaker 8: You know what was the worst though of all time?

41:27 Speaker 9: Is uh?

41:28 Speaker 3: And I think it still exists actually Google Hangouts, and

41:31 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I think it does still exist,

41:33 Speaker 3: and maybe they've improved that. But I remember trying to

41:35 Speaker 3: use Google Hangouts a number of years ago and being like,

41:39 Speaker 3: this is the most non intuitive, unuser friendly or user

41:44 Speaker 3: unfriendly meeting software ever Google Hangouts.

41:49 Speaker 8: And again it may they may have improved it.

41:51 Speaker 3: It was a long time ago the last time I

41:52 Speaker 3: tried to use it, but oh my god, what a

41:55 Speaker 3: nightmare Google Hangouts was.

41:57 Speaker 8: But anyway, but I remember really using that.

42:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it didn't. It didn't garner a great reputation

42:05 Speaker 3: as a as an app so to speak. But no

42:09 Speaker 3: Microsoft Teams though, so far, so good. It's working really

42:11 Speaker 3: really well, very easy, so we're happy about that. If

42:15 Speaker 3: you are just joining us, of course, this is Matt

42:17 Speaker 3: Connerton and Unleashed. We are live from the studios of

42:20 Speaker 3: wm n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,

42:23 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, and you can stream us from anywhere. Go

42:25 Speaker 3: to Matt connorton dot com, slash live for all your

42:28 Speaker 3: live streaming options and social media links, contact in foshow archives,

42:31 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. It is Saturday July nineteen, twenty

42:35 Speaker 3: twenty five, so we did have Tony from Flair join us,

42:39 Speaker 3: and then of course in a little bit coming up

42:41 Speaker 3: in our number two for those of you listening live

42:43 Speaker 3: on Saturday, we have Lydia Ready, another great UK artist

42:46 Speaker 3: who's going to be joining us via Microsoft Teams to

42:49 Speaker 3: talk about her single which we did the world or

42:52 Speaker 3: the American radio premiere of that, I should say, to

42:54 Speaker 3: be precise a few weeks ago called turn this Town Around.

42:57 Speaker 3: So she's going to be joining us. And then in

42:59 Speaker 3: the third hour we have the Stiff Tones. Really looking

43:02 Speaker 3: forward to that. I think I see a member of

43:03 Speaker 3: the Stiff Tones in the chat room actually, so hello

43:05 Speaker 3: and really looking for I love their They've got a great,

43:08 Speaker 3: great sound. They sent us a couple of studio tracks

43:11 Speaker 3: and I was very impressed. So really looking forward to

43:14 Speaker 3: meeting them and having them in studio with us in

43:16 Speaker 3: our number three New Marrow Trace so busy show today

43:19 Speaker 3: by the way, so we did reference this at the

43:22 Speaker 3: top of the show and just kind of touched on

43:23 Speaker 3: it a little bit. But to explore this further for

43:26 Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, this is from the AP. Jane's

43:29 Speaker 3: Addiction bandmates sue each other over on stage fight that

43:33 Speaker 3: ended tour, and that's something that I missed when we

43:36 Speaker 3: were talking about it earlier. I was talking about how

43:38 Speaker 3: the other members suing Perry Ferrell because of what happened,

43:40 Speaker 3: but Farrell apparently is countersuing and what.

43:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, So.

43:47 Speaker 3: Here's what the AP is saying. The members of alt

43:50 Speaker 3: rock band Jane's Addiction filed dueling lawsuits Wednesday. So this

43:54 Speaker 3: just happened a few days ago over sing singer Perry

43:57 Speaker 3: Ferrell's on stage scuffle with guitar Dave Navarro at a

44:01 Speaker 3: Boston concert last year, prompting the cancelation of the rest

44:04 Speaker 3: of their reunion tour and planned album. I didn't even

44:07 Speaker 3: know they were planning to make an album.

44:09 Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

44:10 Speaker 3: Navarro, drummer Stephen Perkins, and bassist Eric Avery suit Ferrell

44:14 Speaker 3: in La Superior Court, alleging that Farrell's behavior on the

44:17 Speaker 3: tour had ranged from erratic to out of control, culminating

44:21 Speaker 3: in the assault where Ferrell punched Navarro both.

44:24 Speaker 8: On stage and backstage.

44:27 Speaker 3: And of course we only got to see the video

44:28 Speaker 3: of what happened on stage, but if you haven't seen it,

44:30 Speaker 3: you can find it on YouTube very easily. The suit

44:33 Speaker 3: says the three bandmates are seeking at least ten million

44:36 Speaker 3: dollars because, as I said earlier when we touched on it,

44:38 Speaker 3: when something like this happens and a big tour, even

44:41 Speaker 3: a small tour, you know, everybody who has any sort

44:44 Speaker 3: of fudiciary monetary involvement on a business level. Anybody, whether

44:51 Speaker 3: it's bandmates, whether it's the crew, whether it's management, the promoters,

44:55 Speaker 3: you know, anybody. Everybody takes a loss when things go wrong.

45:03 Speaker 3: So their lawsuit says, this is the three band members

45:06 Speaker 3: who are suing Perry Ferrell. Quote with a series of

45:09 Speaker 3: swift blows, he single handedly destroyed the name, reputation, trademark,

45:14 Speaker 3: and viability of the band and those who built it.

45:17 Speaker 3: Unquote Farrell and his wife Eddie E T t Y,

45:24 Speaker 3: Eddie Lu, Eddie Law, Eddie Lau l a u, Eddie

45:30 Speaker 3: Lao Ferrell. I don't know how to suit the three bandmates.

45:34 Speaker 3: I should just say I don't know how to say

45:35 Speaker 3: her name. I'm just going to refer to her as

45:37 Speaker 3: E by her first initial. Ferrell and his wife E

45:42 Speaker 3: sued the three bandmates in the same court later Wednesday,

45:45 Speaker 3: blaming them for the conflict and the violence. That's all

45:48 Speaker 3: their fault. Really, yeah, apparently the lawsuit. Here's what the

45:53 Speaker 3: lawsuit says. Quote Navarro, Avery and Perkins apparently decided that

45:59 Speaker 3: Jane's a Dicks decades of success should be jettisoned in

46:03 Speaker 3: pursuit of a year's long bullying campaign against Ferrell, involving

46:09 Speaker 3: harassing him on stage during performances, including, among other tactics,

46:14 Speaker 3: trying to undermine him by playing their instruments at a

46:17 Speaker 3: high volume so that he could not hear himself sing unquote.

46:22 Speaker 3: Interesting thing about that, and that's the whole Oh no,

46:25 Speaker 3: actually there's a little more to the article. But interesting

46:26 Speaker 3: thing about that. So that podcast that I was talking

46:29 Speaker 3: about earlier, where I can't remember the name of the

46:31 Speaker 3: podcast or the guy's name, but it's one of the

46:32 Speaker 3: crew guys who worked for Jane's Addiction, He did say

46:37 Speaker 3: that that was something that Perry Ferrell had complained about,

46:41 Speaker 3: and that that seemed to be what was making him

46:43 Speaker 3: angry on stage, is that the rest of the band

46:47 Speaker 3: was too loud. But in this era of in ear

46:50 Speaker 3: monitors and everything, the guy who said who was saying

46:54 Speaker 3: that that was he didn't agree with Perry Ferrell. He said,

46:57 Speaker 3: there was no reason why anything should have been too

47:01 Speaker 3: loud for him to be able to hear himself in

47:03 Speaker 3: his innier monitors, and that's that's not really a problem.

47:06 Speaker 3: Especially you know, again in twenty twenty five, everybody's got

47:09 Speaker 3: in your monitors. You don't even need stage volume. And

47:11 Speaker 3: this is something again people outside the industry don't.

47:14 Speaker 8: Know, you can.

47:15 Speaker 3: I mean those amps can be turned down to almost

47:19 Speaker 3: well yeah, almost. Whatever's coming out of the PA is

47:22 Speaker 3: what the uh what the crowd is hearing, and you

47:27 Speaker 3: know you're hearing whatever is in your your monitors, your

47:29 Speaker 3: monitor mix.

47:31 Speaker 10: They have their own volume control, I would imagine.

47:34 Speaker 8: Oh and they're in your monitors.

47:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you can. You know, the sound guy

47:38 Speaker 3: can mix. You're can if it's a sophisticated system, which

47:41 Speaker 3: I assume they have they.

47:43 Speaker 8: Had on this tour.

47:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the the sound guy, or you've got

47:47 Speaker 3: multiple sound guys in a case like this, right, and

47:49 Speaker 3: you might have one guy who's dedicated specifically to the

47:52 Speaker 3: monitor mix where he can program. This is why if

47:56 Speaker 3: you go on YouTube sometimes you can find you can

48:00 Speaker 3: actually find the monitor mixes that people have posted from

48:04 Speaker 3: different tours. For example, when the whole thing with Motley Crue, well,

48:09 Speaker 3: lots of things have gone down with Motley Crue over

48:11 Speaker 3: the years, but when when mc mars left and they

48:16 Speaker 3: were placed him with John five, and there were a

48:18 Speaker 3: lot of actors that mcmars was making accusations about, oh,

48:21 Speaker 3: the band doesn't really play in this and that, and

48:22 Speaker 3: how he carried them the whole time and whatever the

48:24 Speaker 3: thing about the click track, Yeah yeah, And then all

48:27 Speaker 3: these these in the ear monitor recordings started popping up

48:32 Speaker 3: on YouTube, so you could actually hear what mc mars

48:35 Speaker 3: was hearing in his monitor. There was a recording of it,

48:39 Speaker 3: and you could hear what the mix was. Really interesting

48:42 Speaker 3: stuff if if you're someone like me who finds that stuff.

48:45 Speaker 3: I find that stuff fascinating, but not everyone does. I'm

48:48 Speaker 3: probably getting way too into the weeds for some people.

48:51 Speaker 13: I don't understand why anybody would poo pooh on anybody

48:54 Speaker 13: doing something that makes them be able to play better,

48:56 Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying.

48:57 Speaker 10: Yeah, and I really feel like his lawsuits pretty frivolous.

49:02 Speaker 8: For Parry Ferrell's lawsuit. Yeah, I mean, well the video.

49:08 Speaker 13: Anybody watching the video is like, oh yeah, and he

49:11 Speaker 13: literally ruined everything.

49:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that video of what happened on stage is

49:17 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's hard to watch that and think, oh, uh,

49:21 Speaker 3: Navarro brought that on himself, you.

49:23 Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

49:24 Speaker 3: Like, like, Farrell's clearly the aggressor, and it.

49:27 Speaker 10: Is important to remember how many people are losing money.

49:30 Speaker 10: It's not just the band.

49:31 Speaker 3: Absolutely everybody absolutely, like I said, everybody involved, gets.

49:35 Speaker 10: Her whole crew how to go home.

49:37 Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, all the griffs, everybody that sets up,

49:40 Speaker 13: everybody that tears down.

49:41 Speaker 3: And they're not rich. You know, the band is rich.

49:43 Speaker 3: You know, they can afford to cancel a tour.

49:45 Speaker 10: Maybe maybe not.

49:46 Speaker 8: I mean well, Perry Ferrell certainly is, and Dave Navarro

49:49 Speaker 8: certainly is.

49:49 Speaker 3: I don't know about I don't know about Eric Avery

49:51 Speaker 3: and Stephen Perkins, but but but they probably have money.

49:54 Speaker 10: How much of their own money is that they have

49:56 Speaker 10: to put up for any of this? Like you know

49:57 Speaker 10: what I mean?

49:58 Speaker 13: Like, yeah, are they paying their own hotels? Are they

50:00 Speaker 13: booking things outside for themselves? But you don't know how

50:03 Speaker 13: far the rabbit hole is going to go. Oh, money

50:05 Speaker 13: gets long.

50:06 Speaker 3: So many people get affected. Yeah, absolutely, it says here

50:10 Speaker 3: the Farrells. The Farrells are claiming that Navarro and Avery

50:14 Speaker 3: actually assaulted them. Perry Ferrell said he was blindsided when

50:18 Speaker 3: the other members canceled the remaining fifteen shows of the

50:21 Speaker 3: tour and broke up the band without consulting him, costing

50:24 Speaker 3: all of them a great deal of money. That is

50:26 Speaker 3: one thing I did wonder about when the tour was

50:28 Speaker 3: canceled is there not. I mean, I'm sure efforts were made,

50:33 Speaker 3: because again, so much money is on the line. Was

50:36 Speaker 3: there not an effort made to do some sort of

50:39 Speaker 3: Maybe not, some sort of It sounds like arbitration issues

50:43 Speaker 3: some period.

50:44 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, maybe it was a situation where like Navarro,

50:48 Speaker 13: the others were like, forget it.

50:50 Speaker 10: I don't even want to do this anymore. It's not

50:52 Speaker 10: worth it. Yeah, I mean, because really it's.

50:55 Speaker 8: Not worth it.

50:56 Speaker 3: It also says here Perry Ferrell says his bandmates to

50:59 Speaker 3: fame him by publicly saying after the fight that he

51:02 Speaker 3: had mental health problems. Well, dude, stating the obvious. Jane's

51:06 Speaker 3: addiction was an essential part of the LA music scene

51:08 Speaker 3: in the late nineteen eighties. With their contribution of elements

51:11 Speaker 3: of punk, goth and psychedelic sounds and culture. They became

51:14 Speaker 3: a national phenomenon with hits including Jane Says and Ben

51:18 Speaker 3: Caught Stealing, and through their founding of the Lollapalooza tour,

51:22 Speaker 3: whose first incarnation they headlined in nineteen ninety one.

51:26 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they were part of the foundation

51:28 Speaker 10: of that.

51:29 Speaker 3: They started Lollapalooza. I did not know that very Ferrell

51:31 Speaker 3: started Lollapalooza really but not. Oh yeah, yeah, still I

51:35 Speaker 3: think he still owns it. He might have sold it,

51:37 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. The group broke up soon after, but

51:39 Speaker 3: returned several times in various incarnations. The twenty twenty four

51:43 Speaker 3: tour was the first time the original members had played

51:45 Speaker 3: together since twenty ten. Ferrell missed all seven of the

51:48 Speaker 3: group's rehearsals in the run up to the tour. His

51:50 Speaker 3: bandmate's lawsuit alleges and his behavior during the early shows

51:54 Speaker 3: range from a radicked out of control and by the way,

51:56 Speaker 3: that part the guy who did the podcast, who was

51:58 Speaker 3: on the crew, he said all, he confirmed all of that.

52:02 Speaker 3: The lawsuit says, quote, he struggled night tonight amid public

52:05 Speaker 3: concern for his well being and apparent intoxication. Perry forgot lyrics,

52:10 Speaker 3: lost his place in songs he had sung since the

52:12 Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, and mumbled rants as he drank from a

52:14 Speaker 3: wine bottle on stage. Unquote all very rock and roll

52:18 Speaker 3: and on brand, but not necessarily hunted. And he's a

52:23 Speaker 3: sixty five year old man, so it's like, let's chill

52:25 Speaker 3: on the partying right. The lawsuit says Ferrell was given

52:29 Speaker 3: many solutions to the volume problem, none of which he followed. Then,

52:34 Speaker 3: on September fourth, September thirteen, at Leaderbank Pavilion in Boston,

52:37 Speaker 3: in front of four thousand fans, videos partially captured Farrell

52:40 Speaker 3: lunging at Navarro. Okay, so we all know that part.

52:44 Speaker 3: Farrell alleges that when he was being restrained by a

52:46 Speaker 3: crew member, Avery punched him in the kidneys, and that

52:48 Speaker 3: both Avery and Navarro assaulted him and his wife backstage.

52:51 Speaker 3: Shortly after the fight. Ferrell, in a statement, apologized to

52:54 Speaker 3: his bandmates, especially Navarrow, for an excusable behavior.

52:57 Speaker 8: The bandmates.

52:58 Speaker 3: Lawyer Christopher Frost pointed to that apology in response to

53:01 Speaker 3: the Farh lawsuit, along with e EA's acknowledgment at the

53:05 Speaker 3: time and Instagram posts that her husband had clearly been

53:08 Speaker 3: the aggressor. Frost said in a statement, quote, if there

53:12 Speaker 3: is a question about what to believe, you can believe

53:14 Speaker 3: the video that we've all watched. The complaint from Perry,

53:18 Speaker 3: including his account of events backstage after the September thirteenth show,

53:21 Speaker 3: is revisionist history. It won't stand. Unquote. Both lawsuits allege

53:27 Speaker 3: assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress and breach

53:31 Speaker 3: of contract, among other things. According to the other band

53:36 Speaker 3: member's lawsuit quote, now the band will never have their

53:40 Speaker 3: revival tour to celebrate the album, the new album and

53:44 Speaker 3: forty plus years of deep complex start topping recordings, and

53:47 Speaker 3: said history will remember the band is suffering a swift

53:49 Speaker 3: and painful death at the hands of Farrell's unprovoked anger

53:52 Speaker 3: and complete lack of self control.

53:55 Speaker 8: So there you go.

53:57 Speaker 10: Sad ending that is.

53:59 Speaker 3: That is It is a sad ending to uh, you know,

54:02 Speaker 3: a legendary band. But uh, I don't I doubt there's

54:05 Speaker 3: any coming back from this. I mean, never say never.

54:07 Speaker 3: Never say never.

54:08 Speaker 10: But you know, like he's got drinking issues going on,

54:11 Speaker 10: Like who wants to work with that?

54:12 Speaker 3: Like I said, this is a job. He's a sixty

54:15 Speaker 3: five year old man. You know, when you're twenty five

54:17 Speaker 3: years old and you're partying too much and whatnot, people

54:19 Speaker 3: will kind of give you a pass, you know, and

54:21 Speaker 3: if you're a rock star, you might get away with

54:23 Speaker 3: it at thirty five, but when you're sixty five, it's like, chill, dude,

54:27 Speaker 3: go just you know you're in this. You're in an

54:30 Speaker 3: incredible position today too.

54:32 Speaker 13: Yeah, people aren't into the whole drinking, drugging party and

54:36 Speaker 13: thing that made up the eighties, right, the lates the seventies.

54:40 Speaker 8: Yeah, the sixties not as much, certainly. Yeah.

54:42 Speaker 1: No.

54:42 Speaker 10: In fact, today's kids drink less.

54:45 Speaker 8: Yeah, that is true.

54:46 Speaker 10: That well, that's why they're an.

54:48 Speaker 13: Increase in the amount of non alcoholic beverages that are offered.

54:50 Speaker 13: And you see places that have full on mocktail menus

54:54 Speaker 13: because the generations now And I don't think that's a

54:57 Speaker 13: bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.

54:59 Speaker 8: Nope, I agree. I agree.

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