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Speaker 11: Things I want to remind people about. Next Saturday, one
Speaker 11: week from today, August seventeen, I will be participating in
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Speaker 11: That is from noon to five pm. However, because of
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Speaker 11: You have your art, yes, hanging up in a wonderful
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Speaker 12: Yes, I am at the New Nashua Creative Collective. There
Speaker 12: are twelve of my pieces hanging just outside of Terminus,
Speaker 12: which is wonderful. I'm excited. And they're up there for
Speaker 12: the whole month, yes, which is crazy. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 12: believe there's still faintings hanging somewhere for a month, but
Speaker 12: it actually it looks amazing. They did a video with
Speaker 12: Dead Harrison playing in the background room.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is really really cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, because that kind of met that meshed up quite nicely.
Speaker 12: So yeah, I'm excited that I'm hanging there. Also, if
Speaker 12: you'd like to go see some of my darkest pieces.
Speaker 12: They are now hanging at the Nashaua Creatives Collective.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, and of course they have a terminus there
Speaker 11: which is Terminus Underground, which has a lot of live
Speaker 11: music and is really amazing.
Speaker 4: And we had Green Jelly is going to be playing.
Speaker 11: That's right, Yes, coming up around the corner. Yes, that
Speaker 11: is that is And we had last week on the
Speaker 11: show we had Eleanor and Spelfi and Andre yes Andre
Speaker 11: of course also in Dad Harrison. We played some of
Speaker 11: their music and it was great to have the three
Speaker 11: of them here talking about the Midnight Creatives Collective and
Speaker 11: Terminus Underground. Always always nice to see them.
Speaker 12: I always say the place is like the Tartis. Yes,
Speaker 12: it looks small, and then you go in and it
Speaker 12: just gets bigger.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, you walk into that room, you go, Like
Speaker 11: I said, you walked in and I didn't even know
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Speaker 11: all that. I had no idea because I've never even
Speaker 11: watched that show. But I just was amazed, like, you know.
Speaker 4: You mean the Walking Dead?
Speaker 11: Was it the Walking Dead? They were talking about Terminus Underground,
Speaker 11: the connection it's inspired by the Walking.
Speaker 12: Oh oh oh yeah, yeah, because you said that right
Speaker 12: after I said the Tartis, and I thought maybe you
Speaker 12: thought the Tartis was from the Walking Dead.
Speaker 11: Well, I've also never seen a single episode of Doctor Who. Well,
Speaker 11: but I do know what the Tartis is. Yes, that
Speaker 11: is true, that is true. But uh no, but I
Speaker 11: always say it's like another world when you walk into
Speaker 11: that room at Terminus, It's like walking into another world.
Speaker 4: Right, It's it is.
Speaker 11: Really incredible, really incredible, And it was great to have
Speaker 11: them here with us last week. Uh and thank you again,
Speaker 11: of course, not to Club Paradise for skyping in for
Speaker 11: the first our really love talking to them. We'll play
Speaker 11: another track of their Too Later.
Speaker 4: Really good. I really enjoy their music. I added them
Speaker 4: to my playlist.
Speaker 11: And of course, our featured world radio premiere this week
Speaker 11: is on My Way from our friend Hope the Rapper.
Speaker 11: This is week nine of our ten weeks of new
Speaker 11: Hope the Rapper singles Week nine, so we'll have one
Speaker 11: more next week.
Speaker 4: But really I've loved every one of them.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, absolutely, very very talented guy, and I love his
Speaker 11: positivity and love. You know, it's been great featuring all
Speaker 11: these new tracks, a new one every week. I can't
Speaker 11: believe next week is the tenth week, I know, but yeah,
Speaker 11: So lots going on and coming up in the third
Speaker 11: hour today, we're going to be joining studio and I
Speaker 11: think he's bringing a couple of fellow musicians with him,
Speaker 11: Grizzy Hendrix, who I believe hosts a radio show or
Speaker 11: a podcast of his own. Yes, that we'll be talking about.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're going to be talking about their show.
Speaker 11: Getting to learn about all that. So looking forward to that.
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Speaker 11: All right, very good. I think we got everybody. If
Speaker 11: I miss you, I apologize. Journey, you know, we like to, uh,
Speaker 11: we like.
Speaker 4: To take a journey.
Speaker 11: We like to talk about these uh interesting things. This,
Speaker 11: this drama in the music industry and Journey has proven
Speaker 11: to be I'm fascinated by by something if you haven't
Speaker 11: followed it, Journey of course, these these bandmates in Journey,
Speaker 11: you know, you can't blame Steve Perry really for all
Speaker 11: these years of not wanting to go back. I can
Speaker 11: understand why the title of it, yeah that while Billboard
Speaker 11: has a new article up, don't stop litigating, do stop?
Speaker 11: Journey bandmates are battling in court yet again. What has
Speaker 11: always fascinated me about bands that don't get along and
Speaker 11: they have all this acrimony and even in some instances,
Speaker 11: you know, suing each other while they're in a band together.
Speaker 11: I've always been fascinated by the dynamics of that and
Speaker 11: how weird it must be to be in a band
Speaker 11: and have issues with other band members to the point
Speaker 11: where you're suing each other and yet still be able
Speaker 11: to go on stage and play with them. That's always
Speaker 11: fascinating to me.
Speaker 12: It's an odd dynamic because how do you do that
Speaker 12: and not bash each other with the guitars or something.
Speaker 11: Well, and and you know, there have been instances. I mean, geez,
Speaker 11: you can find YouTube compilations of bands getting into fights
Speaker 11: on stage, and.
Speaker 12: Like, what, what's a good one? I can't think of
Speaker 12: somebody getting into a fight one.
Speaker 11: Marilyn Manson and there's a YouTube video of him kicking
Speaker 11: John five. This is from quite a few years ago,
Speaker 11: and they're good now, but.
Speaker 4: On stage he kicked him.
Speaker 11: He kicked John five. No, no, but but kicked him.
Speaker 11: And then you see John five like throw down his
Speaker 11: guitar and he's gonna fight him.
Speaker 4: And oh, geez, yeah, they really had.
Speaker 11: That's that's one example. There's of course, a famous I
Speaker 11: need to go on.
Speaker 4: And exploratory now, I want to see these videos.
Speaker 11: There's a famous example of and there's no video of this,
Speaker 11: there's only audio, and I think the audio it's hard
Speaker 11: to hear. But there's a famous example of the Eagles
Speaker 11: where they almost came to well, they were threatening each other,
Speaker 11: like Don Felder and Glenn Fry kept threatening that you
Speaker 11: know after the set, you know we're gonna fight between songs,
Speaker 11: you know, sniping at each other, that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: So but this, this is I mean, I feel like
Speaker 4: this good reason on this one.
Speaker 11: Well, but what's always interested me about this is and
Speaker 11: I remember when I first became sort of fascinated by
Speaker 11: that dynamic. And it was before I even started playing
Speaker 11: in bands myself. And you know, when you play in
Speaker 11: a band, you know, sometimes you have conflict. And although rarely,
Speaker 11: most most of the bands I played in were pretty
Speaker 11: free of inter band drama. But when I was like,
Speaker 11: and my dad, you know, he listens to the show,
Speaker 11: he might remember this. When I was a kid, I
Speaker 11: watched a documentary with my dad and I don't remember
Speaker 11: if it was a documentary specifically about Brian Brian Adam
Speaker 11: No from the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson. I don't remember
Speaker 11: if it was specifically about Brian Wilson or if it
Speaker 11: was a broader documentary about the Beach Boys. But there
Speaker 11: was a point, and it was really when they were
Speaker 11: kind of at the height of their fame where they
Speaker 11: were touring and the group and obviously the Beach Boys,
Speaker 11: there's a bunch of members. They had kind of split
Speaker 11: into two factions and because they weren't getting along, like
Speaker 11: there was the Brian Wilson faction and the Mike Love faction.
Speaker 11: Didn't even know that, and they would actually enter the
Speaker 11: stage what it was time to play. They would enter
Speaker 11: the stage, both factions from opposite sides of the stage,
Speaker 11: so that they because they tried to keep apart, almost
Speaker 11: like two rival gangs, so they would keep apart, you know,
Speaker 11: before and after the show, but they would actually enter
Speaker 11: from opposite sides. And then of course they wouldn't interact
Speaker 11: at all except for playing these songs together.
Speaker 12: But I mean, just that's gonna be so bizarre to
Speaker 12: stand on a stage playing music.
Speaker 4: You would think, so you're together, but you're not. Well,
Speaker 4: how does that work?
Speaker 12: Do they just because they're not gonna play their guitars
Speaker 12: and lean into each other, right? Yeah, No, they like
Speaker 12: do they have like you know, you stay away one
Speaker 12: hundred feet from me on the stage. Yeah, don't cross
Speaker 12: this line. They're gonna take a piece of tape and
Speaker 12: like put it down the middle. This is my side.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's so weird. And but I also wonder too
Speaker 11: about practical things like how do you even write a
Speaker 11: set list if if you can't even speak to each other,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They have an intermediary does that at work?
Speaker 11: Or there's probably one person who who is in charge
Speaker 11: with the.
Speaker 12: Legal pad of paper and he's going back and forth.
Speaker 12: We want to play these songs. Okay, I'll go to
Speaker 12: the other faction. Can you agree to these songs in
Speaker 12: this order? No, we need to move this and this
Speaker 12: and they go back.
Speaker 4: That's gotta be oh boy, Yeah, it's got to be
Speaker 4: very because we have like.
Speaker 12: Lawyers negotiating everything, and they have like documents on how
Speaker 12: what how the set is gonna run and how much
Speaker 12: time each one's gonna get.
Speaker 4: That's terrible. Yeah, and this is sad.
Speaker 12: It's like all these bands from when we were younger
Speaker 12: are like suing each other, you know what I mean,
Speaker 12: Like Darryl holl and John Oh, it's that's lawsuits, and
Speaker 12: Journey's got lawsuits and like everybody's.
Speaker 4: Against each other. But the weird ways.
Speaker 11: But the weird thing with Journey is some of this
Speaker 11: litigation that's been going on between Jonathan Kane and Neil
Speaker 11: Sean has been going on for years, Like they've been
Speaker 11: out on tours while there was active litigation between them,
Speaker 11: you know. So that's like, you know, that's a step
Speaker 11: further than just not getting along or not really speaking
Speaker 11: to each other much.
Speaker 12: But they have their they have themselves set up as
Speaker 12: a company with directors.
Speaker 11: Yeah, which which is which Steve Perry is still a
Speaker 11: part of by the way. Yeah. Oh and then there
Speaker 11: was that weird thing a few years ago where and
Speaker 11: this for this thing, I think Jonathan Kane and Neil
Speaker 11: Sean were on the same side where Ross Valerie and
Speaker 11: the other guy's name I can't remember now, Steve something.
Speaker 11: They actually they actually tried to take over the company.
Speaker 11: They tried to do some weird legal maneuvering where they
Speaker 11: were going to take over ownership of the company like
Speaker 11: a hostile bab the control's Journey. Yeah, and they ended
Speaker 11: up and that's why they ended up getting kicked out
Speaker 11: of the band was because they tried to take over,
Speaker 11: and I think Steve Perry even got involved again, he's
Speaker 11: not in the band, hasn't been for decades now for them,
Speaker 11: Arnelle Paneda, he's been in the band for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 11: he's been in the band a long time now.
Speaker 12: But okay, so let's get into some meat. Showan Is
Speaker 12: was sued by Cain because he said Caine says, you
Speaker 12: unfairly blocked me from the company's American Express account. But
Speaker 12: Shon is saying, yeah, but I did that because you're
Speaker 12: using it, you're misusing it, and you're using money to
Speaker 12: pay for like you in your wife's hotel room. So
Speaker 12: this it's always the money. It's always the money. It's
Speaker 12: always the money. But Kane is claiming that showan has
Speaker 12: spent up to ten thousand dollars per night for hotel
Speaker 12: rooms during their most recent tour.
Speaker 4: Ten thousand dollars a night. Where are you staying? Where
Speaker 4: in the heck are you staying?
Speaker 11: This journey? They're famous?
Speaker 12: Oh my god, like you could you could rent a
Speaker 12: home for somebody for a year for one night stay
Speaker 12: in this hotel.
Speaker 4: It's insane. Who spends Why?
Speaker 12: Why do you spend ten grand on a hotel room,
Speaker 12: why you're gonna you're barely going to be in it.
Speaker 11: I mean, if it was somebody like Motley Crue, you
Speaker 11: know back in the day, you would you would figure, well,
Speaker 11: they probably wreck everything, and they did.
Speaker 12: That's why they needed ten thousand for a night though,
Speaker 12: because they had to replace hotel.
Speaker 11: But I don't think Jonathan Kane is throwing a couch
Speaker 11: out a window.
Speaker 12: Sounds like he's being exorbitant in a spending Yeah you know,
Speaker 12: so Kane shown each control exactly fifty percent.
Speaker 4: Of the company.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so which is you've got You've got heads just
Speaker 12: solid into each other.
Speaker 11: Which is not the same as ownership. We should we
Speaker 11: should clarify.
Speaker 4: That control versus ownership is different.
Speaker 11: Right right, because, like I said, Steve Perry still owns
Speaker 11: I don't know the guys who are cast out of
Speaker 11: the band. I don't know if they still own part
Speaker 11: of the company as well. Like I said, they tried
Speaker 11: to take control of it and it got them fired
Speaker 11: from the band. But that doesn't mean they don't still
Speaker 11: own stakes in the company. But yes, Neil Sean and
Speaker 11: Jonathan Kane, and by the way, for it.
Speaker 4: Give me any number of people with stakes in the company.
Speaker 12: I mean, yeah, it's not even limited to the band
Speaker 12: members themselves.
Speaker 11: And for those who don't know, Neil Sean of course
Speaker 11: is a guitar player, and Jonathan Kane is the keyboard
Speaker 11: player who occasionally plays guitar on some songs that don't
Speaker 11: have keyboard, like a Stone in Love for example.
Speaker 4: They're there.
Speaker 12: It's like they're going head to head. So another one
Speaker 12: of the issues that these guys are doing is one
Speaker 12: of them will fire somebody and then maybe a few
Speaker 12: hours or days later, the other no one will we
Speaker 12: hire the same person that got fired.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so you got one.
Speaker 12: Director goes, I can't stand you, get out, and then
Speaker 12: like two days later, the other one goes, come back,
Speaker 12: come back.
Speaker 11: Well, here's what this is.
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's like tip for tat, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get you.
Speaker 11: This is you know, Yeah, it's not. It's no way
Speaker 11: to run a business.
Speaker 12: No, this is terrible. I mean and I can't even
Speaker 12: imagine me. Can you imagine being an employee? If one
Speaker 12: you get to worry, if one director doesn't like you,
Speaker 12: they might toss you. You get a stay in somebody's
Speaker 12: good side, to stay in the company.
Speaker 11: Well. This is from Billboard dot Com. It says never any.
Speaker 11: Legal battle between Journey members Jonathan Kane and Neil Sean
Speaker 11: erupted again this week, with Kane filing a new lawsuit
Speaker 11: against Sean overclaims that is exorbitant spending is threatening to
Speaker 11: cripple the band's touring operations, and a complaint made public
Speaker 11: and Delaware Court on Tuesday, July thirtieth. Kane claimed that
Speaker 11: Shawn's alleged spending, including unilaterally chartering private jets and charging
Speaker 11: personal expenses their shared American Express card, has led to
Speaker 11: a deadlock that must be resolved Caine's lawyer's right quote.
Speaker 11: The deadlock between the company's directors is now interfering with
Speaker 11: the company's ability to take even the most basic actions
Speaker 11: and is causing significant disruptions in the smooth operation of
Speaker 11: the company. The problems posed a severe threat of harm
Speaker 11: to the company and to Journey's storied history of musical greatness. Unquote.
Speaker 11: Legal battles are nothing new for Sean and Kin, the
Speaker 11: two remaining members of an iconic rock band that still
Speaker 11: is printing money money decades after its Don't Stop Believe
Speaker 11: in Heyday Back in twenty twenty two, Sean sued Caine
Speaker 11: over allegations that his bandmate had unfairly blocked his access
Speaker 11: to the American Express account, interfering with the band's activities
Speaker 11: and delaying payments to crew members and vendors. A few
Speaker 11: months later, Caine sued him back, claiming he had placed
Speaker 11: those restrictions on the AMEX to stop Sean from misusing
Speaker 11: the company card, including spent ian four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 11: in a single month. So they both accuse each other
Speaker 11: of overspending. The new case, filed in Delaware's Clansery Court,
Speaker 11: largely rehashes those same disagreements over spending, like Cain claiming
Speaker 11: that Sean has quote spent up to ten thousand dollars
Speaker 11: per night for hotel rooms for him and his wife
Speaker 11: unquote during their most recent tour. But in technical terms,
Speaker 11: the new case focuses narrowly on the governance of Freedom
Speaker 11: twenty twenty Inc, a Delaware based corporate entity's that they
Speaker 11: created to operate journeys touring. Since Cain and Sean each
Speaker 11: control exactly fifty percent of the company, the lawsuit says
Speaker 11: the two have reached an impasse that is spilled into
Speaker 11: other aspects of the band's operations, like managing their staffers.
Speaker 11: By the way, the reason this company exists to begin
Speaker 11: with this Freedom twenty twenty inc Is because a parent
Speaker 11: a number of years ago. This, if I'm remembering this correctly,
Speaker 11: this is what I've read because I've tried to follow
Speaker 11: all the Journey drama as much as possible, and I
Speaker 11: am a fan, you know, but uh, a number of
Speaker 11: years ago, Neil Sean and his wife started looking into Uh,
Speaker 11: they started looking more closely at journeys of financial operations
Speaker 11: as a band from a business standpoint, because they had
Speaker 11: a manager and they felt like the manager. Not that
Speaker 11: I don't think this was a case of the manager.
Speaker 11: You know, you hear about this a lot in the
Speaker 11: music industry. You know, a manager stealing or or somebody
Speaker 11: is ripping off the band, or you know, or a
Speaker 11: band suing their record label because they feel like their
Speaker 11: record label is stealing from them. There's a lot of
Speaker 11: horror stories. But this was a case of they just uh,
Speaker 11: they started to when they looked into things. Neil Sewan
Speaker 11: and his wife felt like Journey was getting a raw deal.
Speaker 11: You know, they were playing thesees and but they didn't
Speaker 11: seem to be making that much money, and they didn't
Speaker 11: understand where the money was going, what was happening in
Speaker 11: to their profits and whatnot. So they I think they
Speaker 11: just basically fired their entire management team at the time
Speaker 11: and said, we're going to run everything ourselves. Other artists
Speaker 11: have tried to do that. It's hard to do at
Speaker 11: that level. Years ago, I saw a documentary about back
Speaker 11: in the nineties when Duran Duran tried to do it.
Speaker 11: They actually tried to. They fired their their management team
Speaker 11: and said, We're just going to do everything ourselves. We
Speaker 11: can do everything ourselves. Why are we paying out all
Speaker 11: this money?
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, they did that.
Speaker 11: They well they did. You might not have known because
Speaker 11: unless you happen to see this particular documentary, because it
Speaker 11: didn't last long. They did it, They tried it, and
Speaker 11: they said, oh my god, we are in so far
Speaker 11: over our heads. We cannot run this band this way.
Speaker 11: So then they undid you know, they hired a new
Speaker 11: management team and everything, and they said never again. Kiss
Speaker 11: During the eighties, for for a long period of time,
Speaker 11: they didn't have a manager per se. They had their
Speaker 11: the accounting firm they were working with Glickman Marx was
Speaker 11: kind of their kind of their managers and that they
Speaker 11: they you know, kind of ran the business of Kiss.
Speaker 11: But Kiss was essentially self managed actually at a couple
Speaker 11: of points during their career, and they managed to pull
Speaker 11: it off.
Speaker 4: Jean's are real business minded guy though, like.
Speaker 11: Well, and so is Paul Stanley and they yeah, and
Speaker 11: they they managed, they got away.
Speaker 4: They've always treated it like a business. Yes, that's a
Speaker 4: big well, that's the thing.
Speaker 12: And they also don't have as much I mean, yeah,
Speaker 12: there was some alcohol, but they didn't have like that
Speaker 12: as a as a bigger issue. And Paul right, yeah,
Speaker 12: whereas other bands of that era, it was all of
Speaker 12: the band was doing that, right. These guys kept their
Speaker 12: heads on straight the whole time. Oh yeah, and we're
Speaker 12: all always treating it like a business.
Speaker 11: Right Yeah, Like all this stuff with Journey, you cannot
Speaker 11: imagine this happening and Kiss, anything like this would would
Speaker 11: never happen in Kiss. So again, this is from Billboard
Speaker 11: dot Com. In technical terms, the new case focus is narrowly.
Speaker 11: Oh I'm sorry I read that part already. Let me
Speaker 11: go down here. So Cain's lawyer, this is what Jonathan
Speaker 11: Kaine's lawyers say in the lawsuit, quote, Petitioner and respond
Speaker 11: and are deadlocked with regard to issues concerning the hiring
Speaker 11: and firing of company employees and band crew members. It
Speaker 11: is common that one director will terminate an employee or
Speaker 11: crew member, and hours or days later, the other director
Speaker 11: will rehire that same individual unquote. As you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 11: the lawsuit claims the strife between Cain and Shawn has
Speaker 11: also led to other problems, including disagreements about whether to
Speaker 11: accept an advance from AEG for their most recent tour,
Speaker 11: the purchase of cancelation insurance, and other problems. Caine's lawyer's
Speaker 11: right quote. The deadlock between petitioner and respondent has created
Speaker 11: a toxic internal environment. Rather than focusing on the band's
Speaker 11: performances during a major international tour, the band's members and
Speaker 11: crew now find themselves caught in the middle of the
Speaker 11: director's disputes, afraid of performing their job responsibilities, and pressured
Speaker 11: to align with one director or another unquote.
Speaker 4: That's horrible work environment. Oh yeah, the music can't imagine.
Speaker 11: The music industry is hard enough without all this talk.
Speaker 4: About hiding from your bosses.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, get in the bathroom, they're coming well, or
Speaker 11: hiding from one of them.
Speaker 4: Exactly, from both of them. I feel like I just
Speaker 4: don't want to be in the middle of any of this.
Speaker 11: I think in this say, in this situation, probably some
Speaker 11: of them they hide from whichever one fired them and
Speaker 11: try and try to stay close to whichever one.
Speaker 4: Really doesn't see me.
Speaker 11: You wote no I got brought back? Yeah, exactly. It
Speaker 11: says here as a solution, Ken is asking the court
Speaker 11: to appoint a neutral third director of the company who
Speaker 11: will be able to issue the tie breaking vote during
Speaker 11: disputes over key issues. Well, what they're like.
Speaker 4: Divorced parents fighting over their children.
Speaker 11: Well, what they need is a manager. See it sounds
Speaker 11: like they don't need.
Speaker 12: A third person to be well, they're supposed to have
Speaker 12: a third person, but it doesn't really.
Speaker 4: Go into the much.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Well it sounds like.
Speaker 4: Oh the cour Oh whoats because I jumped ahead.
Speaker 11: It sounds like they don't have a manager either, right,
Speaker 11: So they're they're just they're running everything themselves.
Speaker 4: I think there's managers to a point.
Speaker 11: Well, because part of what a manager of a band
Speaker 11: does is say, you know, like, if there's a dispute
Speaker 11: like this, the manager says, look, we're going to do this.
Speaker 11: You know, you guys hired me to run this band.
Speaker 11: Here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 12: Kine is asking the court to appoint a third director
Speaker 12: who could be a neutral director that could issue a
Speaker 12: tie breaking vote on all of these issues, because you
Speaker 12: it's divorced.
Speaker 4: It's like divorced parents fighting over the kids.
Speaker 12: And yeah, that's that's you get these two equal in ownership,
Speaker 12: I mean equal indecision making right fifty to fifty directors and.
Speaker 4: They don't agree.
Speaker 12: And they not only did they not agree, they set
Speaker 12: out to go against the other one. Oh you fired
Speaker 12: so and so I'm gonna bring them back.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so this.
Speaker 4: Is Yeah, they're good.
Speaker 12: It's it's it's sad that it's sad to see all
Speaker 12: this happening. But I mean, you look at some of
Speaker 12: the stuff he's reporting. Kane is claiming he put the
Speaker 12: restrictions on the.
Speaker 4: Card because he's the other guy. Sorry, Sean. Sean spent
Speaker 4: four hundred thousand dollars on the American Express card in
Speaker 4: one month. One month.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I could live off of that much
Speaker 12: money for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: And he spent that one month.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And American expresses. The one that you got to pay
Speaker 4: off everything next month. You can't carry a balance on
Speaker 4: that sucker.
Speaker 12: The one dude does four hundred thousand, and everybody else
Speaker 12: is even just using it reasonably like they're supposed to.
Speaker 4: That's a heck of a month filled the way. Jeez,
Speaker 4: buy a house, buy a couple of houses.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you can do a whole lot. That's crazy, says
Speaker 11: In a statement to Billboard, Kane's attorney, said Libisman Leibsman,
Speaker 11: stressed that his client was not seeking damages and only
Speaker 11: wanted to resolve the impasse. Quote. It is expected that
Speaker 11: the third director will provide resolution to the issues between
Speaker 11: John and Neil. It is John's intent for Journey to
Speaker 11: continue providing great live music throughout the current tour. Unquote.
Speaker 11: An attorney who was who has represented Sean in his
Speaker 11: previous litigation with Kin, did not return a request for comment. Okay,
Speaker 11: and then it gets to what I was talking about earlier,
Speaker 11: it says here. Even before Sean and Kin came to blows,
Speaker 11: members of Journey had been sparring in court for years.
Speaker 11: Back in twenty twenty, the two men teamed up to
Speaker 11: file a lawsuit against former drummers Smith Steven Smith, that's right,
Speaker 11: he's I couldn't remember his last name, and former bassist
Speaker 11: Ross Valerie over the band's name, and in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 11: former lead singer Steve Perry took legal action to help
Speaker 11: Sean and Kane from registering Oh I'm sorry to stop,
Speaker 11: rather not to help, but to stop Sean and Kane
Speaker 11: from registering federal trademarks on the names of many of
Speaker 11: the band's biggest hits. Yeah, I remember that. That was
Speaker 11: interesting too, Yeah, because part of what when Neil Shawn
Speaker 11: and his wife started looking into things, part of what
Speaker 11: they realized was that, you know, somebody could, for example,
Speaker 11: make a T shirt that says don't Stop Believing on it,
Speaker 11: and you know, well, why aren't we making that money
Speaker 11: when people here don't stop believing they think of our song?
Speaker 11: You know, we should register these trademarks. And and you know,
Speaker 11: Steve Perry's going, wait a minute, I wrote those lyrics.
Speaker 11: Why do you get to trademark that? You know, so
Speaker 11: he actually helped prevent them from doing that.
Speaker 4: Why wasn't it done under the company like it makes me?
Speaker 4: I get what they're.
Speaker 11: Saying, Well, it probably was, but but Steve Perry said, Nope,
Speaker 11: you're not doing that.
Speaker 12: Well, I don't blame him. Don't blame him like you said,
Speaker 12: he's still has ownership. Yeah, he may not be in
Speaker 12: the decision room, which it sounds like it's not a
Speaker 12: fun place to be.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Right, I wouldn't blame him one bit.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's awful how these bands have have devolved into this,
Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I mean when
Speaker 12: I can think about when I was a kid and
Speaker 12: they look so fun and happy, Like what happened to you?
Speaker 4: Guys?
Speaker 12: You're fun and happy. Now they're sueing each other. Although
Speaker 12: I can't blame them all right, I'm sorry. If we
Speaker 12: had a business and all of a sudden you're looking
Speaker 12: at a four hundred thousand dollars bill on one of
Speaker 12: your charge guards by one person in the business, I'd
Speaker 12: lose my mind.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I can't even am seeing a bill like that and
Speaker 12: not losing your mind. And what is the other guy thinking?
Speaker 12: Is he going like I deserve this? So I'm just
Speaker 12: gonna keep pulling this card out like I deserve this.
Speaker 12: I mean, you got to tell yourself something to talk
Speaker 12: yourself into making it sane. To rent a ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 11: I disagree. I don't think you have to talk yourself
Speaker 11: into anything at that point when you're that rich and
Speaker 11: you're that famous. I think something happens psychologically where no,
Speaker 11: I don't think they. I think that's the problem. They
Speaker 11: don't have to talk themselves into anything. And a lot
Speaker 11: of famous people, people who've been very wealthy, who then
Speaker 11: they go through a thing where they have it and
Speaker 11: then they lose it all they talk about this how
Speaker 11: at the height of their fame and wealth, they just
Speaker 11: kind of assume, they get into this mindset where they
Speaker 11: just assume it's going to be that way forever. They're
Speaker 11: gonna be super famous forever, the money's going to be
Speaker 11: coming in forever, so they can spend as much as
Speaker 11: they want to and never have to worry about it,
Speaker 11: and it just be comes a thing. And in Journeys case,
Speaker 11: not not that I'm justifying it, but you can almost
Speaker 11: see where because here, here Journey, you have a band
Speaker 11: that was at the the their peak in the eighties
Speaker 11: but has actually still managed to I mean, you know,
Speaker 11: haven't had a hit song in decades, but they still
Speaker 11: loves and they still do so much business touring. They
Speaker 11: can still tour arenas and and still make so much money.
Speaker 11: And that's really where the money is anyway, That and
Speaker 11: merchandising and and so. In their case the money actually
Speaker 11: has never stopped coming.
Speaker 12: So, but this is a grotesque greed that's involved in that.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry because I mean, I can't I if I
Speaker 12: had all of this, I won the lottery, I have
Speaker 12: money now. I still I wouldn't want to go buy
Speaker 12: a ginormous frickin' mansion that costs the fortune to run
Speaker 12: and takes incredible amounts of work to clean. I'd want
Speaker 12: a nice, little small place that has a little garden,
Speaker 12: makes me happy and money in the bank to sustain
Speaker 12: me for the rest of my days. I just I
Speaker 12: always I'm always in It's always mind boggling when you
Speaker 12: look at some of these people and it's like, why
Speaker 12: did you buy that ginormous house for two people?
Speaker 4: How does that work? Why is that worth it?
Speaker 12: Why is it worth it to have a five hundred
Speaker 12: dollars electric bill, And you know, I imagine a three hundred
Speaker 12: dollars gas bill. I mean, I can't imagine how much
Speaker 12: it costs just to run the house itself. Now, how
Speaker 12: much work does it take to upkeep it, clean it,
Speaker 12: to paint, to fix it. I mean, I watch my
Speaker 12: dad upkeep his house, and he's meticulous. This house is gorgeous,
Speaker 12: but he works his bum off all the time, every week,
Speaker 12: every year, every month to keep that house looking that way.
Speaker 12: It takes work to keep it that way. It doesn't
Speaker 12: just magically stay that way. These guys get this money
Speaker 12: and they buy these monstrosities of homes. And I've got
Speaker 12: ten cars, Why you could only drive one at a time.
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Why is it that when you get some money in
Speaker 12: your hands, all of a sudden, there's this grotesque greed, right,
Speaker 12: and you forget all of the decency that you used
Speaker 12: to be, or the decent things you used to say,
Speaker 12: or the things you used to Oh gee, I wish
Speaker 12: I could do this, or do you wish I could
Speaker 12: help that one?
Speaker 4: But then the minute the money gets into the hand,
Speaker 4: it's like you forget all of that, right. But these yeah,
Speaker 4: something happens.
Speaker 12: I think you're right, something happens to these people's brains
Speaker 12: that they think, well, since I always have this, I
Speaker 12: should I must own a four million dollar ginormous home
Speaker 12: that I only live in two rooms of because really,
Speaker 12: you can't enjoy a house that.
Speaker 4: How do you enjoy a house that being a one person?
Speaker 11: I come on, I think it's probably for people it's
Speaker 11: just all about status. It's ego showing off an ego.
Speaker 11: And I know everyone says this, but I really do
Speaker 11: think it's It's true in my case and in yours too.
Speaker 11: But yeah, if I if I had that kind of money,
Speaker 11: that's not where I would put it because I'm something
Speaker 11: of a minimalist, Like I don't want Like, there's nothing
Speaker 11: about the idea of living in a mansion with rooms
Speaker 11: I don't even use just to have it. There's nothing
Speaker 11: about that that appeals to me. No, there's nothing about
Speaker 11: it that appeals to me.
Speaker 12: Of course my brain goes to, you know, how much
Speaker 12: upkeep that is? But yeah, but plus I like small
Speaker 12: and cozy.
Speaker 11: But I think I think most people though it is.
Speaker 11: It is strange and it's something I've noticed from what
Speaker 11: I realized this from a pretty young age. Most people,
Speaker 11: if you talk to them about about, uh, what it
Speaker 11: would be like to be rich, they do they They
Speaker 11: will tell you, oh, yeah, I'd have ten cars and
Speaker 11: a mansion. And it's like, really, you wouldn't. You wouldn't,
Speaker 11: that's what you would do. Like I do think there's
Speaker 11: something in the human condition where most people I think
Speaker 11: we're the odd ones. I think I think most people, Yeah,
Speaker 11: that's what they think about.
Speaker 12: And it's like, why, but I only need to drive
Speaker 12: one car at a time. I could take two cars
Speaker 12: to be quite content, and take the other eight cars
Speaker 12: and go feed like an entire freaking school system. There's
Speaker 12: so much you could do with that crazy amount of money. Yeah,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean that I can't. It's like
Speaker 12: people who spend thousands of dollars on these red bottom shoes.
Speaker 12: I can't understand it to me because to spend thousands
Speaker 12: of dollars on a pair of shoes, to me sounds
Speaker 12: like grotesque greed, Like I don't need a decent pair
Speaker 12: of shoes, doesn't cost that much because I grew up though,
Speaker 12: I grew up with a dad that taught me the
Speaker 12: value of a dollar, you know, so you know you
Speaker 12: didn't take anything for granted if you got a pair.
Speaker 12: When I got to go to the shoes store and
Speaker 12: I got to come home with two or three pairs
Speaker 12: of shoes, that was a big deal to get two
Speaker 12: pairs or to get three pairs. That was a big deal.
Speaker 12: That was that was money. And for us, you know,
Speaker 12: it's not a pair of shoes, but ooh, I got
Speaker 12: your dress shoes and sneakers like that was a big deal.
Speaker 4: To be able to do that. I can't imagine. I
Speaker 4: don't know. I guess. Yeah, maybe we are the oddballs.
Speaker 12: It's just it takes very little to make me happy.
Speaker 12: And I can't imagine wasting so much money when there's
Speaker 12: so much in the world that you could do to
Speaker 12: make I make.
Speaker 4: How many lives could you save with one car?
Speaker 11: Hello?
Speaker 4: Hello, is this the mat? Oh?
Speaker 11: My goodness, is this John C. Hopwood?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm listening to your conversation. I don't know how
Speaker 13: old was Journey when they made it big. What was
Speaker 13: the average age?
Speaker 4: They were pretty young, weren't they.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they had to be pretty young. I'm gonna guess
Speaker 11: and say, I'm gonna guess in say twenty five.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think there's a big difference. Richard Barrett and
Speaker 13: always said there's a big difference becoming really famous when
Speaker 13: you're very young, like Elizabeth Taylor and Marin the brand though,
Speaker 13: where it was almost when he became famous and rich.
Speaker 13: You know, you're immature, right, and so you buy your toys.
Speaker 13: But with the Beatles, who you know, very young when
Speaker 13: they got rich, both stay houses and everything were tacked
Speaker 13: right off. So I just thought i'd brought that. Bring
Speaker 13: that up, great show, Good miss you take care.
Speaker 11: All right, thanks for the call time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 11: By bye o those guys. We haven't heard from John
Speaker 11: and Along.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, is he on the other side of
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 11: Now, I'm not sure. He sounded like he was on
Speaker 11: a train or something. It's very loud. No, it was
Speaker 11: nice to hear from him though. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 11: I wonder, you know, to John's point about how they
Speaker 11: were very young.
Speaker 12: Well, that has an aspect of course, because when I
Speaker 12: was younger, I was very stupid.
Speaker 4: Now that I look back on myself.
Speaker 11: And I wonder, I wonder John's observation. I wonder if
Speaker 11: that that's gotta be thinking? Is that part of the
Speaker 11: problem if you become if you do become so successful
Speaker 11: so young, and you have all that money, you establish
Speaker 11: a you know, as ay an a therapist, we talk
Speaker 11: a lot about patterns. You establish a pattern of spending
Speaker 11: recklessly and foolishly and not practically and uh, and so
Speaker 11: whereas as John said, like Richard Burton, who you know,
Speaker 11: didn't become wealthy until he was in its forties, if
Speaker 11: you become wealthy at an older age, you're you're going
Speaker 11: to be more practical and and maybe and maybe not
Speaker 11: be so foolish as to just assume this gravy train's
Speaker 11: going to go forever. And again, in the case of Journey,
Speaker 11: it actually has gone forever. But uh, but a little
Speaker 11: more practical with your money. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 11: I think that's an interesting point.
Speaker 12: It is like the I mean, to spend money the
Speaker 12: way that that was being spent, it has to you
Speaker 12: have to have the mindset of an there's no bottom,
Speaker 12: there's no there's no my wallet will never be empty, right,
Speaker 12: It has got to be your feeling. If you can
Speaker 12: sign up for a ten thousand dollar hotel room, that's
Speaker 12: just mind boggling to me. Ten grand for one night
Speaker 12: is so insane.
Speaker 11: Right, I just can't.
Speaker 4: I couldn't do that. I could not do that and
Speaker 4: look myself in the mirror. I just couldn't.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I could freaking fill a food pantry to the ceiling.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna spend ten grand on one night in a hotel?
Speaker 12: Does this hotel have.
Speaker 11: The other thing too? About age? You know, because like
Speaker 11: I said, John brought up you know, they were probably
Speaker 11: very young when they established these patterns. Is and I
Speaker 11: said the same thing when we were talking about the
Speaker 11: I've said this actually while when we talked about the
Speaker 11: Daryl Hall versus John Oat lawsuit, and also in talking
Speaker 11: about Don Henley. It's like these guys, these guys in
Speaker 11: Journey now they're in their seventies. Is this what you
Speaker 11: want to be doing when you're in your seventies, tied
Speaker 11: up in all this litigation.
Speaker 4: The money like blind with money.
Speaker 11: I know, but it's like geez, just ah see them,
Speaker 11: Just do your thing. I mean, these guys like I mean.
Speaker 4: You took a dollar too much.
Speaker 11: They're so lucky. They're so fortunate not only to.
Speaker 12: Not only toy have this, but they have their health
Speaker 12: to be able to do what they're doing, and they
Speaker 12: have all this money at their fingertips. They'll never not
Speaker 12: want for nothing. Right, they don't worry about clothing or
Speaker 12: food or any of that. They have nothing to worry about.
Speaker 11: But this is what they're I mean, Journey's canceling shows. Now,
Speaker 11: this is what they're gonna this is what they're gonna
Speaker 11: spend their time on.
Speaker 4: And this is how they're going to go out at
Speaker 4: this point satisfy. It doesn't go out that way.
Speaker 11: That's what I said about Darryl Hall and John Oates.
Speaker 11: It's like, oh my god, the biggest selling duo in
Speaker 11: pop history, all the money they could ever need, all
Speaker 11: the fame, you know, and again they they've sustained, you know,
Speaker 11: they've sustained this over so many decades. And this is
Speaker 11: how it ends. This is how it litigation.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you're not going to talk at you. If we
Speaker 12: go on stage together. It's opposite sides. You stay on
Speaker 12: your side. I'll stay on my side. And it's and
Speaker 12: all of it comes down to the one. It's the
Speaker 12: ego of money. Yeah, it's all about ego and money.
Speaker 11: And if you're if you're a twenty something, you know,
Speaker 11: and you have a conflict with somebody, you know, you
Speaker 11: kind of take it. And you shouldn't take it for
Speaker 11: granted because anything can happen, but you kind of take
Speaker 11: it for granted. You had all the time in the world.
Speaker 11: At some point someday you'll rectify things. You'll make up.
Speaker 11: Everything will be good, you'll get back together, it'll work out.
Speaker 11: But you know, when you're in your mid seventies and
Speaker 11: you're fighting with somebody over money or over a contract,
Speaker 11: it's like, you know again, I think if Daryl Hall
Speaker 11: and John it was because I'm such a I grew
Speaker 11: up such a huge Hall and Oats fan. It's like,
Speaker 11: and this is how, this is how it's gonna end
Speaker 11: for them, you know. And and Darrel hasn't said much
Speaker 11: about it John lately. John has said in interviews when asked,
Speaker 11: you know or you and Daryl do you think you
Speaker 11: and Darrel are going to reconcile at some point? He said,
Speaker 11: probably not. This is probably it, And it's like, oh
Speaker 11: my god, and he you know. And honestly, I mean,
Speaker 11: the one silver lining with that is John Oates from
Speaker 11: what I've seen in the interviews when he's talking about it,
Speaker 11: you know, I'm sure he carries a sadness about the situation,
Speaker 11: but he also seems like a little bit of a
Speaker 11: weight'spin lifted off of him. And Daryl probably feels that
Speaker 11: way too, because Darryl Hall was clearly resentful of having
Speaker 11: to share. So I'm going to success with John. But
Speaker 11: I want to go back to.
Speaker 4: What I said something earlier. It is like people getting divorced.
Speaker 12: Now, these guys got together, they were in love with
Speaker 12: each other, they made music together. That's literally together for
Speaker 12: so long that they start nitpicking at each other. Little
Speaker 12: things start annoying each other, and they stay together too
Speaker 12: long and they end up presenting each other.
Speaker 11: Yes, well that's literally what Daryl said. He referred to
Speaker 11: it as a global divorce.
Speaker 4: It is, and a lot of reason. It's so sad.
Speaker 4: It's so sad. I'm sad for that.
Speaker 11: Well, we only have a little bit of time left
Speaker 11: in the hour, but moving on from journey just for
Speaker 11: a moment, because this is somewhat excuse me, this is
Speaker 11: somewhat related. I apologize. I didn't get to the button
Speaker 11: in time before I cough. I'm not sick, just my
Speaker 11: allergies continue to This has been a bad summer for
Speaker 11: allergies for me. Yeah, but you know this year we
Speaker 11: talk about people, they get used to spending the money
Speaker 11: and they you see this a lot in hip hop.
Speaker 11: They you know, the bottom eventually falls out. Also from
Speaker 11: Billboard dot Com, Damon dashes Rockefella, which is a very
Speaker 11: famous UH record label and hip hop Rockefeller shares will
Speaker 11: be auctioned to pay legal judgments. This is from Billboard
Speaker 11: dot com and I haven't followed this particular story, but
Speaker 11: it says Damon Dash is one third stake in Jay
Speaker 11: Z's Rockefeller Records is going up for auction later this month,
Speaker 11: but a source tells Billboard that the shows might come
Speaker 11: with some The shares rather might come with some key limitations.
Speaker 11: According to federal court filings this week, the US Marshall
Speaker 11: Service will auction off Damon Dash's thirty three and a
Speaker 11: third interest in the storied record company to satisfy an
Speaker 11: eight hundred and twenty three thousand dollars judgment against him
Speaker 11: in a lawsuit filed by movie producer Josh Weber over
Speaker 11: a failed film partnership. The auction is set for August
Speaker 11: twenty nine at a midtown Manhattan hotel. Will have a
Speaker 11: minimum bit of one point two million dollars. I don't
Speaker 11: want to get in all the math of it, but
Speaker 11: skipping down just quickly. The sale will be for Dash's
Speaker 11: Steak and Rockefeller, Inc. An entity whose primary assets are
Speaker 11: the rights to Jay Z's iconic debut album Reasonable doubt.
Speaker 11: According to an April article by Rolling Stone, the rest
Speaker 11: of the catalog of music released by Rockefeller, which is
Speaker 11: dissolved as an operational label in twenty thirteen, is owned
Speaker 11: by other entities and is not involved the owner of
Speaker 11: the other two thirds of Rockefeller Label, co founders Jay
Speaker 11: z and Kareem Biggs Burke, have already attempted to stop
Speaker 11: the auction, including making changes to the company's bylaws and
Speaker 11: interviewing in the lawsuit. I'm sorry intervening rather in the lawsuit,
Speaker 11: but a federal judge rejected such opposition in February, and
Speaker 11: we won't go through it. This is a long involved article.
Speaker 11: Maybe we'll revisit this in the future. But I do
Speaker 11: have to wonder if some of the attorneys involved in
Speaker 11: this are you know, do they hire law firms that
Speaker 11: have also been used by the members of Journey in
Speaker 11: their legal misadventures with each other? It just goes on
Speaker 11: and on, all right. We are approaching the top of
Speaker 11: the hour. We have some guests coming in in the
Speaker 11: third hour, but we want to ask promised, I'm going
Speaker 11: to play another track from our one guest today. We
Speaker 11: had the band Club Paradise skyping in from the UK
Speaker 11: and this is a great track. This is called Another Life.
Speaker 11: And we didn't tell the guys at a time where
Speaker 11: we're going to play this one, but I love this song.
Speaker 11: And then we're also going to in case you missed
Speaker 11: it earlier, the world radio premiere today of the new
Speaker 11: track from Hope the Rapper. We're gonna play that again too,
Speaker 11: And then we've got some guests coming in the third hour,
Speaker 11: so don't go away anymore. Matt Connorton unleashed to come.
Speaker 14: Can you see us meeting and another another life? Can
Speaker 14: you feel this speed into another life? Not alife? Can
Speaker 14: you see us meeting.
Speaker 6: And another life? Another life?
Speaker 14: Can you feel this speed into another life?
Speaker 11: Another life?
Speaker 5: What if frame not on.
Speaker 6: Delivery stretch of resting your ploy? Did that even breaths?
Speaker 11: This life was sign you gave me.
Speaker 4: WoT scare you to walk and see a well with me?
Speaker 14: When those guys time green and stuff, A wee cry
Speaker 14: a sign on emdens.
Speaker 4: We'll let say for me to me You see.
Speaker 14: That he had world outlo it's your lady. Can you
Speaker 14: see us meaning in another another life?
Speaker 6: Can you see this lean into another life?
Speaker 5: No life?
Speaker 14: Can you see us meaning at a.
Speaker 6: Nod to feel lessly into a noddle. Life feel like
Speaker 6: a breaking going on the room.
Speaker 14: My thought collection, traguric perceptions just gather the dust.
Speaker 11: Because I was a desperate man.
Speaker 5: In on all of homes.
Speaker 6: But I can't be tampering.
Speaker 14: Man, it's you why you see it the most? Can
Speaker 14: you see us? Meetings not alive? Timmy ball is clean
Speaker 14: into another another.
Speaker 6: GMC as me and it was not allowed.
Speaker 14: Jimmy ball is clean into a noddle. About just sat
Speaker 14: inside every one?
Speaker 5: No time? What it bout?
Speaker 6: Just sid inside?
Speaker 4: No, I'm on my way now.
Speaker 6: Why would I wait? Now?
Speaker 15: Wait now I'm on my way now.
Speaker 6: Why would I wait?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 6: Wait now I'm on my way now? Why would I wait?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 5: On my way?
Speaker 6: No way?
Speaker 5: Like things like.
Speaker 16: Sports is touchdown? We're getting When I'm on that bill,
Speaker 16: I don't.
Speaker 6: Give a shout.
Speaker 16: What's because I'm working on mine and I need a
Speaker 16: good deal coming.
Speaker 6: What's real?
Speaker 16: How I need a bill twenty note trying to get
Speaker 16: all of my bills and trying to destroy me like
Speaker 16: capital bill. I'm coming right back, and I'm nothing to thrill.
Speaker 16: But against ain't copping.
Speaker 11: They're making this bell.
Speaker 16: For the impact the quick dash soon as money called
Speaker 16: me right back, do it all with my heart head,
Speaker 16: fight that honey, buy me with a barn that decide
Speaker 16: rat got I'm telling me he's wrong that I'm like that,
Speaker 16: Hi Jack the MICUs with the flight pack hunt a
Speaker 16: mic and a No. I'm to tell him holy fighting
Speaker 16: with the man in the mirror when the aero step
Speaker 16: back's a good pack. If we talk about impact, we
Speaker 16: did that. Oh no, heads to the front door. I
Speaker 16: know the test gonna come, So got one boy, the
Speaker 16: end and the one more.
Speaker 4: I swear for my end.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna take yos. We're gonna with the cheese like
Speaker 16: it's kiss. Kay, sous Letta be kicking heavy. Ksous wake
Speaker 16: up in the morning with the day go trying to
Speaker 16: tour the states to win a big goat, say sous,
Speaker 16: I just want to make both put a hole in
Speaker 16: his head like a bag. Go lay lo and wait
Speaker 16: for the safe goat plays go. I don't want to
Speaker 16: stay pope these to get this talking. But I see
Speaker 16: the opposite. I think I'm taking it next, losing that hope,
Speaker 16: well nowhere that goal. But I got this ans on
Speaker 16: my chest. Push me, don't break down. Pt Us don't
Speaker 16: drake down. God is like eight miles. I'm on my
Speaker 16: weight now, I'm on my way now. Why would wait
Speaker 16: now I'm on my way now? Why would I wear
Speaker 16: now I'm on my way now? Why would I wear?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 6: My way? When holder wait?
Speaker 15: Log wabi play the biggest man that may I make okay?
Speaker 15: Depending when I pull up in the pay kind of
Speaker 15: remember you with the the biggest picture that for a
Speaker 15: girl they trying to figure me up? Tell me did
Speaker 15: you hear me when I say I come from that
Speaker 15: error like your marriage pop up with the stupid toe
Speaker 15: down on the terrace were cup and the tooth we
Speaker 15: pretend with no aircus in the boot, and they drove
Speaker 15: to our area. Your gentrification was patiently waiting back that
Speaker 15: we have picking and so the in case they fighting
Speaker 15: for a placement on corners outrages while others have plaguing.
Speaker 6: So love to word not.
Speaker 15: Wait now that was my trailer like eight mile, the
Speaker 15: ling I know down the plate round came from the
Speaker 15: foods and he pay?
Speaker 4: How did you do currency come in in?
Speaker 5: Currently?
Speaker 15: Keeping good company me you and your lobody, all of
Speaker 15: my bending and stuffers like children rim raised where no
Speaker 15: man is like the general. These rappers or so pick
Speaker 15: them up while hitting them.
Speaker 6: Draws might be your white it might be your mob.
Speaker 15: No discrimination. I'm blasing them off. They just talking like laughter.
Speaker 15: They see their black cat that like you look like
Speaker 15: a government come from the money. It's rotures and sofas
Speaker 15: employees don't. Before you had to go get it the
Speaker 15: packs in the digital and said I'm giving you VEX
Speaker 15: them a criminal packed up buff get packed in the clock.
Speaker 15: If you dumped in the lake and you thumb were okay, pounded,
Speaker 15: the flavor would break down. I was like the state
Speaker 15: like a break pound, just say the state up.
Speaker 6: In eight towns.
Speaker 17: They said, I'm on my weight now, I'm on my
Speaker 17: way now. Why would I weigh now now I'm on
Speaker 17: my way now. Why would I wait now now I'm
Speaker 17: on my way now. Why would I weigh.
Speaker 4: Now now I'm on my way now.
Speaker 10: When
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