Matt Connarton Unleashed: Naked Without It

0:00 Speaker 1: That is quite catchy. Indeed, that is Naked Without It

0:04 Speaker 1: from the UK, and we have these guys on with

0:07 Speaker 1: us via Skype. We're going to introduce them in just

0:09 Speaker 1: in a moment. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we

0:11 Speaker 1: are live from the studios of w m n H

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0:18 Speaker 1: Of course, you can stream the show at Matt connorton

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0:22 Speaker 1: the news table, president and account and joining us via Skype.

0:29 Speaker 1: We have Tony and Martin from Naked Without It. Hi, guys,

0:33 Speaker 1: can you hear me?

0:34 Speaker 2: Hi? We've got you?

0:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, awesome. It's always a little nerve wracking with

0:39 Speaker 1: a transcontinental Skype call because it doesn't always work out,

0:43 Speaker 1: so it's nice when it does. But great, great to

0:46 Speaker 1: have you guys here with us this morning. So what

0:49 Speaker 1: do you each do in Naked Without It? What are

0:52 Speaker 1: your roles respectively?

0:55 Speaker 3: And I play rhythm guitar and I sing okay, and

1:01 Speaker 3: Martin I play all the other guitar and do a

1:04 Speaker 3: bit of BVS as well.

1:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, very good, very good. Now that song

1:09 Speaker 1: spinning is it's very catchy. And I noticed all your

1:12 Speaker 1: songs are are like that. They're very easy to kind

1:15 Speaker 1: of sing along to. Has that always been, uh? Has

1:19 Speaker 1: that always been kind of them is of naked without it?

1:22 Speaker 1: Have you always written songs that are, you know, just

1:25 Speaker 1: very accessible and just kind of get stuck in your brain?

1:27 Speaker 1: Has that always been been kind of the approach?

1:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

1:30 Speaker 3: We do like a chorus, and we do like a

1:32 Speaker 3: sing along. Yeah, we do like a sing along when

1:34 Speaker 3: we play live. And we started when we started out,

1:39 Speaker 3: well re started out a few years ago. We did

1:42 Speaker 3: a an online interview during COVID, so we did an

1:48 Speaker 3: online interview and I can remember I always say, I

1:50 Speaker 3: can always remember Martin saying to me at the time,

1:52 Speaker 3: you know, just wait, we're the entertainment. So it sort

1:56 Speaker 3: of dawned on me then that, you know, our job

1:58 Speaker 3: really was to entertain. So I've always sort of found

2:00 Speaker 3: there was no point doing heartfelt songs that people aren't

2:05 Speaker 3: going to catch. I suppose there's a place, but for us,

2:07 Speaker 3: it doesn't really work. So we're in to entertain really,

2:11 Speaker 3: and I think a big chorus is a way of entertaining.

2:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, absolutely, I'm interested in. So the these songs

2:20 Speaker 1: that we're playing, these are from an album called Singles Club. Yes, indeed,

2:26 Speaker 1: now tell me if I have this right. And there's

2:28 Speaker 1: a specific reason why this is so interesting to me.

2:31 Speaker 1: This is a series of Did you release these each

2:34 Speaker 1: individually as singles and then compile them into an album

2:39 Speaker 1: called Singles Club? Is that? Was that your approach to this?

2:42 Speaker 2: Yeah? You did?

2:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. The reason I'm so curious about it is

2:47 Speaker 1: because this has been a topic of conversation on the show.

2:51 Speaker 1: You know, I'm old enough to remember, and I suspect

2:53 Speaker 1: you guys are too. When there was really kind of

2:56 Speaker 1: a standard way of doing things. You know, you've got

2:58 Speaker 1: an album coming out, first single goes to radio maybe

3:01 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks before the album's coming out. Then

3:04 Speaker 1: the album comes out, then you have the second single

3:06 Speaker 1: and so forth. And it was, you know, everybody released albums.

3:09 Speaker 1: Somebody might occasionally release an EP, but that's sort of

3:12 Speaker 1: the old record company model. Now we live in an

3:16 Speaker 1: era where, because of the Internet, there's so many different

3:18 Speaker 1: ways you can approach it. You can release albums, you

3:21 Speaker 1: can release EPs, you can just put out singles forever

3:23 Speaker 1: and never release an album. But I've noticed, especially in

3:27 Speaker 1: the past couple of years, a lot of the guests

3:29 Speaker 1: that we have, their approach is, rather than putting out

3:33 Speaker 1: an album and a series of singles, releasing a series

3:35 Speaker 1: of singles that eventually become an album. And it seems

3:40 Speaker 1: like you guys have kind of taken it to a

3:41 Speaker 1: new level where it's like, that's clearly what this is,

3:44 Speaker 1: because you're calling the album Singles Club because it's literally

3:47 Speaker 1: a collection of singles, and I think that's very interesting

3:50 Speaker 1: that you've taken that approach.

3:52 Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly.

3:53 Speaker 3: We back in twenty twenty two, we were talking about

3:57 Speaker 3: what we were going to do because we'd done one album.

3:59 Speaker 3: We did a first album, Habits Far Too Bright, which

4:02 Speaker 3: was along the same lines, along the normal lines, you know,

4:04 Speaker 3: we got it all together, we released it as you

4:06 Speaker 3: should sort of thing, and then I sort of we

4:09 Speaker 3: had a conversation and just sort of said that music's

4:11 Speaker 3: a bit more immediate now. Nobody sort of wants to

4:14 Speaker 3: wait for anything. Everything is done straight away. So we

4:17 Speaker 3: sort of thought, well, we'd, we'd we'd instead of instead

4:21 Speaker 3: of holding things back, what we would do is we

4:23 Speaker 3: would plan to release a single every six weeks. And

4:27 Speaker 3: then at the end of it, we did add the

4:29 Speaker 3: intention of putting out like the Hard Hard CD version.

4:32 Speaker 3: Of course, we didn't actually realize because we didn't work

4:34 Speaker 3: this one out very well. Is that when we decided

4:37 Speaker 3: that in twenty twenty two to do twelve singles, it

4:39 Speaker 3: was going to take us seventy two weeks, So we

4:42 Speaker 3: didn't realized we were actually committing ourselves to a year

4:45 Speaker 3: and a half's work, which was.

4:49 Speaker 2: Recording.

4:49 Speaker 3: You know, we've got a recording, releasing, you know, or

4:52 Speaker 3: the artwork, publicizing, et cetera, and then we're on to

4:55 Speaker 3: the next one and on to the next one.

4:57 Speaker 2: But yeah, we did it.

4:58 Speaker 3: We got we got a little bit random every now

5:00 Speaker 3: and again, but yeah, seventy two weeks later we ended

5:02 Speaker 3: up with the Singles Club album, So yeah, and we're

5:05 Speaker 3: really happy with it.

5:07 Speaker 1: Was that a difficult decision for you both, because obviously,

5:12 Speaker 1: you know, we're all or we all were used to

5:15 Speaker 1: doing it the old way. I mean, it was this

5:18 Speaker 1: something did you put a lot of thought into Is

5:21 Speaker 1: this really the right way to approach it? Or maybe

5:23 Speaker 1: it instinctively just felt right and obvious to you? I mean,

5:27 Speaker 1: was that a difficult decision to come to or did

5:29 Speaker 1: it come easy?

5:30 Speaker 4: I think we thought that, you know, like, because people

5:33 Speaker 4: generally will stream a song or they like a songs,

5:37 Speaker 4: so we thought, if we just keep giving them songs,

5:39 Speaker 4: you know, spaced out rather than just all together, then

5:42 Speaker 4: there's more chats that they might listen to more of

5:44 Speaker 4: what we do, rather than here's an album or that

5:46 Speaker 4: what's the single, I'll listen to that and ignore the rest.

5:48 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and it just it just kept it

5:51 Speaker 2: fresh for us as well.

5:52 Speaker 4: And it was a good, you know, kind of time

5:53 Speaker 4: to keep working on things and you can change things

5:56 Speaker 4: is you know, as you know, you can start with

5:58 Speaker 4: a song, but then over time it might evolve into

6:00 Speaker 4: something slightly differently. So with a six week gap, if

6:03 Speaker 4: you like, in between what we were doing, we did

6:05 Speaker 4: have that luxury of saying, well, actually maybe we should

6:07 Speaker 4: change this a little bit and we can try things

6:09 Speaker 4: out and you know, give a few different ideas. So

6:11 Speaker 4: from a you know, from actually a creative point of view,

6:13 Speaker 4: it was quite helpful rather than we have to get

6:16 Speaker 4: the album done within this amount of time and then

6:18 Speaker 4: once it's done, that's it.

6:20 Speaker 2: Whereas with this, you know, you're only.

6:21 Speaker 4: Doing one song at a time essentially, so yeah, we

6:24 Speaker 4: had a bit more bit more flexibility.

6:26 Speaker 2: So yeah, and we had a.

6:27 Speaker 3: Bit of engagement from like the people that come and

6:29 Speaker 3: see us play because of course they knew something was

6:31 Speaker 3: coming in six weeks time, so people we're asking us

6:35 Speaker 3: when the next one's due? When's the next one jew

6:37 Speaker 3: which which was nice. So yeah, capt Us on our

6:40 Speaker 3: toes really.

6:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see how it would be kind of

6:42 Speaker 1: liberating to to be able to approach it this way.

6:45 Speaker 1: And something else too that we talk a lot about

6:47 Speaker 1: on the show is the importance of adaptability to constantly

6:53 Speaker 1: changing music industry, and in fact, that was a big

6:56 Speaker 1: subject in some ways in the in the in the

6:59 Speaker 1: previous segment that we were doing. So is this going

7:04 Speaker 1: to be the new approach going forward? Do you think

7:06 Speaker 1: you're going to keep doing it this way? Or I mean,

7:08 Speaker 1: obviously you're promoting this album singles Club, these singles that

7:11 Speaker 1: have become an album, So I don't know if you're

7:13 Speaker 1: even thinking that far ahead. But are you thinking about

7:16 Speaker 1: kind of the future or are you in the moments

7:18 Speaker 1: just more focused on promoting what you've what you've just

7:21 Speaker 1: released recently?

7:22 Speaker 3: Well, I mean absolutely, we we had a gig last night,

7:26 Speaker 3: and we basically went into a studio this morning and

7:30 Speaker 3: recorded the basics of like the first three tracks for

7:33 Speaker 3: something that's planned for later on in the year. I mean,

7:36 Speaker 3: I constantly write lyrics. Lyrics just keep coming, so we

7:40 Speaker 3: keep we write them down, and then we work on

7:42 Speaker 3: the ideas.

7:43 Speaker 2: We live about one hundred miles apart.

7:48 Speaker 3: Oh no kidding, so we so we've sort of embraced

7:51 Speaker 3: the technology, so we send each other ideas all the

7:53 Speaker 3: time via WhatsApp, and then so we pass some sort

7:57 Speaker 3: of forwards and backwards like that, and you know, we

8:00 Speaker 3: work on bits at the other end, and then we

8:02 Speaker 3: sort of come together for gigs. We were saying today,

8:04 Speaker 3: we don't really rehearse very much because we just sort

8:06 Speaker 3: of we do. If we do, I rehearse my bits.

8:09 Speaker 3: My rehearses is bits and then and then we bring

8:11 Speaker 3: them together at gigs generally.

8:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're quite.

8:14 Speaker 3: We're pretty disciplined, to be honest. So we're well, i'd

8:18 Speaker 3: say we are. I mean, if you if you see

8:20 Speaker 3: us live, sometimes we're not particularly just discipline. Some of

8:24 Speaker 3: the crowd know the lyrics better than I do. Sometimes

8:26 Speaker 3: just a bit embarrassing, especially when yeah. Sometimes so if

8:29 Speaker 3: I go into the wrong verse and somebody will give

8:31 Speaker 3: me a look from the crowd, and you'd.

8:32 Speaker 2: Be, oh, okay, cheers right right my song, I'll see

8:36 Speaker 2: how I like. You know, that's.

8:39 Speaker 1: Another you know, in terms of being able to send

8:42 Speaker 1: tracks back and forth on WhatsApp. I mean, that's another

8:45 Speaker 1: example of how, you know, being able to adapt to

8:49 Speaker 1: the changing technology and the changing dynamics of the industry

8:52 Speaker 1: is so important. And I always say this comes up

8:55 Speaker 1: a lot too reflecting on the pandemic. You know, the

8:58 Speaker 1: pandemic was terrible, but we have to find these silver

9:00 Speaker 1: linings where we can. And I think one of the

9:02 Speaker 1: one of those few silver linings was it kind of

9:06 Speaker 1: forced people, creative people, I think musicians in particular, to

9:10 Speaker 1: kind of find new ways to create and to and

9:12 Speaker 1: to get comfortable with creating from a distance. Like you

9:16 Speaker 1: guys said, you know, you're one hundred miles apart, and

9:19 Speaker 1: you know, I think for a lot of people pre pandemic,

9:22 Speaker 1: the idea of even being able to work that way,

9:25 Speaker 1: even though the technology was already there and has been

9:27 Speaker 1: there for a while, to be able to, you know,

9:30 Speaker 1: just send tracks back and forth online. I think for

9:33 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people pre pandemic were resistant

9:36 Speaker 1: to that who then became comfortable with it, who now

9:40 Speaker 1: now it's very freeing because it's just another way to create,

9:43 Speaker 1: and to be able to create and collaborate with somebody

9:46 Speaker 1: who is one hundred miles away is really cool.

9:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we did, I mean we did in Lockdown.

9:54 Speaker 3: We sat, we started, we were doing a few there

9:56 Speaker 3: was a few internet radio sort of shows, but we

9:58 Speaker 3: also did sort of gigs at home. Yeah, you know,

10:02 Speaker 3: we we we got into when the times we were toge,

10:05 Speaker 3: we got together and just sort of played played that

10:09 Speaker 3: played an online gig sort of like on Facebook Live

10:12 Speaker 3: or something like that, because it was a way of

10:14 Speaker 3: still getting still getting the gigs done if you do

10:17 Speaker 3: enough promotion before and get everybody sort of aware that

10:20 Speaker 3: it's going to happen and make a.

10:21 Speaker 2: Bit of a party of it. It worked for us.

10:24 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good.

10:25 Speaker 4: So we released our first EP the week before Lockdown happened.

10:29 Speaker 4: We did, so it wasn't our fault, just so yeah,

10:34 Speaker 4: so we didn't get a chance to go and play

10:35 Speaker 4: it live, and so we had to find a way

10:37 Speaker 4: to do it, you know, still get the music heard.

10:40 Speaker 2: So we did.

10:40 Speaker 4: You know, we did one of those videos where we

10:42 Speaker 4: recall our bit separately pieces together trying to find out

10:46 Speaker 4: how that technology works. Like you're saying, I mean, it

10:47 Speaker 4: was kind of figuring out a lot of stuff very

10:50 Speaker 4: quickly that we could still promote, you know, our new product,

10:53 Speaker 4: because we were.

10:54 Speaker 2: Very excited about it at the.

10:54 Speaker 4: Time and and you know, you want people to hear it.

10:56 Speaker 4: And it was amazingly bad timing from that point.

11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah.

11:00 Speaker 1: Well, well, to be fair, I mean, there's never a

11:04 Speaker 1: good time for a plague. Yeah, you guys also too,

11:13 Speaker 1: So I was reading an in your bio. Did you

11:16 Speaker 1: guys work together previously and then you took a really

11:19 Speaker 1: long break and then came back together in twenty nineteen.

11:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, Yeah, yoga with us. We many years ago.

11:29 Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna be twenty or nearly thirty years ago.

11:31 Speaker 4: I know we don't look that old, but we can't

11:33 Speaker 4: see it's on radio.

11:33 Speaker 2: So we we used we beat.

11:38 Speaker 4: We're in different bands in the same kind of area,

11:41 Speaker 4: and Tony and I we got together and we used

11:44 Speaker 4: to play, you know, just as a duo, just acoustic guitar,

11:46 Speaker 4: and we worked on some stuff and did a couple

11:48 Speaker 4: of gigs and then you know, we kind of went

11:50 Speaker 4: off and you know, moved places, and you know, there's

11:53 Speaker 4: no big falling out, there's no big kind of showbiz

11:56 Speaker 4: argument that we just you know, we just kind of

11:57 Speaker 4: moved and dinner and then the bands that we used

12:00 Speaker 4: to be in, we we had the same drummer in

12:02 Speaker 4: both bands, and he sadly died in twenty nineteen. So

12:07 Speaker 4: we met up at the funeral. At his funeral, had

12:11 Speaker 4: half a glass of sherry and I thought maybe it

12:15 Speaker 4: was time to get the band back together. So and

12:18 Speaker 4: it was kind of funny because we you know, see,

12:20 Speaker 4: we live quite a distance apart, and it went over

12:23 Speaker 4: for the weekend and I put my guitar down in

12:26 Speaker 4: Tony's man cave on the first day and it kind

12:29 Speaker 4: of stayed there. We just, you know, we just hung

12:30 Speaker 4: out and talked and it was almost oft time to

12:32 Speaker 4: go home. So the next day and we said, well,

12:35 Speaker 4: we should probably have a go and see what was

12:37 Speaker 4: just like because I think there was a little bit

12:38 Speaker 4: of apprehension that it had been so long and it

12:41 Speaker 4: was remembered very fondly and you don't know how things

12:43 Speaker 4: are going to be all those years later.

12:46 Speaker 2: For me.

12:47 Speaker 4: It was great because he still had his old songbook

12:49 Speaker 4: that we used to play from back in the day,

12:50 Speaker 4: all the handwritten and lyrics and stuff. Yeah, and so yeah,

12:56 Speaker 4: so we just started playing these songs we hadn't played

12:58 Speaker 4: together in twenty five years and it's still sounded great,

13:01 Speaker 4: and we thought, you know, maybe we've we should pursue this.

13:04 Speaker 4: And you know, so we had some ideas of original

13:06 Speaker 4: songs and we started playing over those and yeah, went

13:09 Speaker 4: to an open mic night and so we'd give it

13:11 Speaker 4: a bash and it went there really well.

13:13 Speaker 2: So we thought, well, you know, do you have if

13:17 Speaker 2: you have an open mic night over there?

13:19 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's very common here.

13:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, so so we we literally went into

13:25 Speaker 3: into my town and there was like an open mic night,

13:29 Speaker 3: and we went up and just sort of played.

13:30 Speaker 2: We did a couple of songs.

13:32 Speaker 3: We played three songs, and then we sort of looked

13:34 Speaker 3: at the fellaw who was comparing it, and just sort

13:36 Speaker 3: of said, you know, should we do another one? And

13:40 Speaker 3: he just he just said, well, play as long as

13:42 Speaker 3: you like, and we were like, oh okay. So we

13:45 Speaker 3: realized then that we obviously had something going on that

13:47 Speaker 3: people liked, so that was where we sort of said, well,

13:50 Speaker 3: let's give it another go, and five years later this is.

13:53 Speaker 2: Where we are older and definitely older. Two albums in.

13:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, so on Singles Club, are any of these songs?

14:04 Speaker 1: Are these new? Or do some of these go back,

14:07 Speaker 1: like way way back.

14:10 Speaker 2: One of them?

14:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the flowers goes way way back. That

14:14 Speaker 3: goes right back to my old band, which was called

14:16 Speaker 3: Just Another Girl, which is an old Johnny Thunders song

14:21 Speaker 3: was up that the band was named after. Okay, so yeah,

14:25 Speaker 3: that flowers goes right back to them. So that's the

14:27 Speaker 3: only one we've kept. The rest of them are all

14:29 Speaker 3: sort of are all new stuff that we've we've been

14:33 Speaker 3: putting together.

14:34 Speaker 2: So but I mean, yeah, I.

14:36 Speaker 3: Mean, Spinning is spinning, Spinning is very recent, Molly's very recent.

14:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant most.

14:45 Speaker 3: Of them are now they're literally in the last sort

14:47 Speaker 3: of year or so. But as we said, we released

14:49 Speaker 3: them as singles going through and now we're sort of

14:51 Speaker 3: we're finding a way to repromote them and they're all

14:53 Speaker 3: coming back through.

14:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's awesome. Do you guys ever perform with

15:00 Speaker 1: their musicians, because obviously as an acoustic duo, there's there's

15:04 Speaker 1: an opportunity there to bring other people up up with

15:07 Speaker 1: you or do you always keep it to just the

15:09 Speaker 1: two of you?

15:10 Speaker 4: It's always, yeah, just the two of us actually, So

15:13 Speaker 4: I mean that's part of our you know thing. I

15:15 Speaker 4: mean it's two two acoustic guitars and two voices really,

15:17 Speaker 4: so yeah, we work hard at is trying to make

15:20 Speaker 4: that as interesting as possible, you know, because we you know,

15:23 Speaker 4: as I would say, we're like a live band, but

15:24 Speaker 4: we're just you know, just two guitars, so we sort

15:27 Speaker 4: of make it quite percussive and and you know, trying

15:29 Speaker 4: to fill out the sound rather than it being that

15:31 Speaker 4: you know, sort of stereotypical you know, strumming away and

15:34 Speaker 4: doing that. So yeah, that we try and make that

15:36 Speaker 4: kind of bring that energy to the acoustic side rather

15:39 Speaker 4: than you know, bringing out other instruments.

15:41 Speaker 3: So yeah, we also like we we also we like

15:43 Speaker 3: to involve the audience. I like to involve the audience.

15:47 Speaker 3: We like to involve the audience a lot. We we've

15:50 Speaker 3: got what's what's the what's the harmony in that they do?

15:54 Speaker 3: Oh in uh in flowers, well in in the song Flowers.

15:58 Speaker 3: When we play Flowers live, it's very strange because there's

16:01 Speaker 3: about four or five people in the audience who've worked

16:03 Speaker 3: out their own back in.

16:05 Speaker 2: Vocals for it, and I always forget.

16:08 Speaker 3: So we played last night in a place called Camberly

16:11 Speaker 3: and we were playing it and I'd forgotten that that

16:13 Speaker 3: they do that. So we come into it and when

16:15 Speaker 3: we it's like an acoustic bit for me, and literally

16:19 Speaker 3: they start with their woe woe woes in the background.

16:21 Speaker 2: You it's just brilliant.

16:23 Speaker 3: And we have another song called one too Many, which

16:28 Speaker 3: I think you've been sent. I'm not sure if you

16:30 Speaker 3: played it, but it's one too Many, and we do

16:33 Speaker 3: that as a call and response song. So basically, we

16:37 Speaker 3: as I said last night, we try and it we

16:39 Speaker 3: don't make it to it's not very it's not singing,

16:41 Speaker 3: it's not there's nothing.

16:42 Speaker 2: Clever about it. Really. I shout one too many, they

16:45 Speaker 2: shout one too many back. But but the.

16:48 Speaker 3: Way it works out, it's worked out very nice because

16:50 Speaker 3: we can then we have if we've if we've got

16:52 Speaker 3: a reasonable audience that will will send like we'll play

16:56 Speaker 3: the left hand side of the audience off against the

16:58 Speaker 3: right hand side of the audience, which is is brilliant.

17:00 Speaker 2: It's brilliant, fun there's some videos on YouTube of that.

17:03 Speaker 3: Actually videos of YouTube snaked out it on YouTube. We

17:07 Speaker 3: did one at the Carlton Tavern and the promoter, Fella

17:11 Speaker 3: Tom Bright, actually filmed it from behind us, so you

17:15 Speaker 3: can see the audience shouting back at us, which is

17:19 Speaker 3: really good. And that's a really good idea that gives

17:21 Speaker 3: you a really good flavor of what we do.

17:23 Speaker 2: Like that must be.

17:24 Speaker 1: That must be such a great feeling too. You know,

17:27 Speaker 1: to have fans, you know, dedicated fans who you know

17:30 Speaker 1: are well one, you know, on one song making up

17:34 Speaker 1: their own backing vocals. That's gonna be amazing.

17:37 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, I mean, as you just played spinning,

17:40 Speaker 3: and we said when when When we first played Spinning,

17:45 Speaker 3: we played it in a little pub in a little

17:47 Speaker 3: place called Bracknell in Barkshit, and we started we started playing,

17:52 Speaker 3: and I always said it sounded like there should be

17:54 Speaker 3: there should be a line dance for it.

17:55 Speaker 2: Or something like that.

17:56 Speaker 3: But when we started playing it, there's a couple that

17:58 Speaker 3: come and see us called Paul and any And one

18:02 Speaker 3: of the first times we played it, Paul literally just

18:04 Speaker 3: got up and started spinning in the chorus, which which

18:07 Speaker 3: is as you say, it's amazing and people don't know

18:10 Speaker 3: the people that if we Like last night, we were

18:12 Speaker 3: supporting a band called three Times seven, so their crowd

18:15 Speaker 3: were there. And because when Paul gets up and start,

18:19 Speaker 3: Paul and keV were both up spinning last night, their

18:22 Speaker 3: their crowd can't really work out what's going on? Why

18:24 Speaker 3: are these people sudden? And that's that's really good. We

18:28 Speaker 3: play as well. We play in we do some Saturday

18:32 Speaker 3: afternoon shows in HMV stores. Okay, so we do them

18:37 Speaker 3: in record shops as well, and we did one in

18:40 Speaker 3: Woking in Surrey a few weeks ago and Paul came.

18:43 Speaker 3: Paul's actually spinning through the aisles of an HMV on

18:46 Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, which which was quite quite amusing for the shoppers.

18:50 Speaker 2: I promise you security not quite so impressive.

18:54 Speaker 1: Oh that's very cool. That's very cool. When you when

18:57 Speaker 1: you guys played, I imagine, I mean you must have enough

19:00 Speaker 1: material to play a long time, right, Like do you

19:03 Speaker 1: do multi hour shows? Do you do long shows?

19:06 Speaker 2: Well, we could do.

19:09 Speaker 3: The thing is we do we do if we just

19:11 Speaker 3: if we set up our own gigs and we do

19:12 Speaker 3: our own shows, then we do. Then we'll do a

19:15 Speaker 3: long set we'll do two sets. We do then when

19:18 Speaker 3: we can. Generally, as the hmvs are about forty five minutes,

19:23 Speaker 3: if we get support slots, like last night, we've only

19:25 Speaker 3: got like half an hour. So as we said, we

19:27 Speaker 3: just do the bangers. Basically, we do the ones that

19:30 Speaker 3: are going to get people up, get people sing in,

19:32 Speaker 3: and get people entertained, because sometimes being an acoustics show,

19:37 Speaker 3: we sometimes get paired with quiet, nice acoustics sort of

19:44 Speaker 3: you know, you know, not what we're like at all,

19:47 Speaker 3: and we are a little we do see it as

19:50 Speaker 3: a little bit competitive where we will come out, blow

19:53 Speaker 3: the place away, have everybody singing, and then all of

19:56 Speaker 3: a sudden, someone's got to come up and play something

19:58 Speaker 3: really quiet.

19:59 Speaker 2: Which is what was it?

20:01 Speaker 4: A girl said, well, she apologized that she wasn't as

20:04 Speaker 4: cheerful as us.

20:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the next girl that was on after

20:07 Speaker 3: us in one of the London gigs, came on and

20:09 Speaker 3: apologize to the crowd that she wasn't going to be

20:10 Speaker 3: as cheerful as we were.

20:11 Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's great.

20:15 Speaker 4: So when we do those in longer shows as well,

20:19 Speaker 4: because you know, we've got quite a lot of material

20:21 Speaker 4: now and you know, obviously, you always get excited about

20:24 Speaker 4: the newer stuff and you want to play that, and

20:26 Speaker 4: there's always the odd song that we haven't done in

20:28 Speaker 4: ages and someone says, oh, I love that song, you

20:30 Speaker 4: should bring that back, and then we sort of have

20:32 Speaker 4: to go back and go okay, so you know, and

20:34 Speaker 4: that's the thing I think like with any music, once

20:36 Speaker 4: it kind of is out there, it belongs.

20:38 Speaker 2: It doesn't belong to us anymore. You know, we're just

20:40 Speaker 2: kind of playing what people want to hear.

20:43 Speaker 4: Really, so that's that's always quite nice because it's not

20:46 Speaker 4: always what you think, because you can think, well, that's

20:48 Speaker 4: the one that people will love, and actually they picked

20:50 Speaker 4: something else, which is you know, is always an interesting.

20:55 Speaker 2: I was talking with Tom Bright again about that.

20:56 Speaker 3: Funny enough, we were saying about right, because I write

20:59 Speaker 3: the lyrics, so we write and you know, they they

21:02 Speaker 3: mean things to me. But once you once they're out there,

21:06 Speaker 3: as far as I'm once that, well, me and Tom

21:08 Speaker 3: were saying that once they're once they're out there, they're

21:10 Speaker 3: literally that other people will find their own meanings for them.

21:13 Speaker 3: So I'm not precious about the meaning that I have

21:16 Speaker 3: and it will mean something different to other people.

21:19 Speaker 2: So on once they're out there.

21:21 Speaker 3: There, there's there's different meanings they're they're they're out there,

21:23 Speaker 3: there are other people as far as I'm concerned.

21:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that makes sense. I mean art is subjective

21:29 Speaker 1: and everyone can kind of interpret you know that art,

21:32 Speaker 1: whether it be lyrics or anything else however they want.

21:35 Speaker 1: I always, uh, it doesn't. This doesn't happen now, But

21:40 Speaker 1: I remember being a kid, uh and uh not as uh,

21:44 Speaker 1: you know, not understanding these concepts as well. And if

21:46 Speaker 1: I if I thought a song, if I heard a

21:48 Speaker 1: song that I really liked it, I thought meant something specific.

21:51 Speaker 1: It meant something specific to me, and then I read

21:53 Speaker 1: an interview with that author, you know, whoever wrote the

21:56 Speaker 1: lyrics or or or if an author, if it's a

21:59 Speaker 1: if we're talking about instead of a song, about a

22:01 Speaker 1: book or a poem or something, and then it turns

22:04 Speaker 1: out that their intended meaning was different than what I

22:07 Speaker 1: thought it meant, you know, to me the way I

22:10 Speaker 1: interpreted it, I would actually be a little bit disappointed, like,

22:14 Speaker 1: oh I thought it meant this.

22:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. So no, you should be allowed it's yours.

22:19 Speaker 3: You should be allowed to do your own it's up

22:21 Speaker 3: to you. And saying that you know. I'm sure I

22:24 Speaker 3: still know songs that I sort of from various bands

22:28 Speaker 3: over the years and stuff that you know, songs that

22:31 Speaker 3: you're quite attached to. And now once you find out

22:33 Speaker 3: you've been singing the wrong word, you know, sometimes you

22:36 Speaker 3: can get.

22:37 Speaker 2: That's not what I thought it was, and now it's

22:38 Speaker 2: too late.

22:39 Speaker 3: I'm going to carry on singing that because that's what

22:40 Speaker 3: I've been doing for hour long?

22:41 Speaker 2: Does that with his own soul? There you go, yes,

22:44 Speaker 2: very true.

22:46 Speaker 1: Here you go. By the way, what does the name

22:48 Speaker 1: mean naked without It? Where does that come from?

22:52 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you the very short version.

22:54 Speaker 3: Is that Naked without It is a line from a

22:59 Speaker 3: Jane's addiction to Okay from the song Jane says, by

23:03 Speaker 3: Jane's addiction because yeah, we put it together sort of

23:06 Speaker 3: like thirty odd years ago, so that was out at

23:09 Speaker 3: the time, and that was I really like that song.

23:12 Speaker 3: So we stole like the line naked without It from there,

23:15 Speaker 3: but Martin has Martin.

23:16 Speaker 2: Has a really good version as well.

23:18 Speaker 4: So really where it comes from is, like I say,

23:20 Speaker 4: we were both playing in different bands at that time,

23:23 Speaker 4: both like full electric bands, and so we had this

23:26 Speaker 4: little duo. It was just two of us all stripped back,

23:29 Speaker 4: so it was we were naked without all the other instrumentation,

23:32 Speaker 4: and so that's.

23:34 Speaker 2: Really what's And with the Jane, we were pretty exposed.

23:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, and it was you know, it was

23:39 Speaker 4: just us two voices too, same as it is now

23:42 Speaker 4: and so yeah, so it was quite.

23:43 Speaker 2: Exposing to do that. So that's the bands we had.

23:45 Speaker 3: The bands we had before were loud, as we said

23:47 Speaker 3: with the drummer that we had very very loud drummer

23:51 Speaker 3: and and you know it was yeah, it was a

23:53 Speaker 3: far more loud on someone. And then when we appeared,

23:56 Speaker 3: it was just just us two with the acoustics, which

23:58 Speaker 3: was yeah, it was good.

24:00 Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Uh, this is

24:02 Speaker 1: a little off subject. But I'm just curious because you

24:05 Speaker 1: you did bring up Jane's addiction. Did either of you

24:08 Speaker 1: guys ever get to see James addiction before the implosion?

24:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I saw the original in the day. Yeah, yeah,

24:16 Speaker 3: I can always remember when did you ever get to

24:18 Speaker 3: tet to see him?

24:20 Speaker 1: I never got to see them, and you know, when

24:23 Speaker 1: all that happened in Boston. You know, Boston is only

24:25 Speaker 1: about forty five minutes from where we are uh so

24:28 Speaker 1: so so we were we were close to it. But

24:31 Speaker 1: uh but I know I never got to see James

24:33 Speaker 1: Addiction live and it doesn't sound like I'll ever get

24:35 Speaker 1: the opportunity. I don't think that. I don't think they'll

24:37 Speaker 1: be reuniting again after you know, once a Violin.

24:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now I saw.

24:44 Speaker 3: I remember seeing them when they did. They used to

24:46 Speaker 3: finish off the set. I remember doing Bricks and the Academy.

24:49 Speaker 3: They used to finish the set with them just playing

24:51 Speaker 3: like drums across the front of the stage. There was

24:54 Speaker 3: all four of them just playing. It must be on

24:55 Speaker 3: YouTube with brums so yeah, see if you can find

24:58 Speaker 3: out comment what the song was. But it was like

25:00 Speaker 3: it was finished just with like them playing drums across

25:03 Speaker 3: the front. They were amazing, Like I think that's part

25:05 Speaker 3: of Perry Farrell was just a lunatic.

25:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.

25:10 Speaker 3: As you said saying about Boston, I've never been to Boston.

25:13 Speaker 3: I've been New York. I've never been to Boston. I've

25:15 Speaker 3: always wanted to go because I'm a massive drop Kick

25:17 Speaker 3: Murphy's fan. Okay, Street Dogs, everybody over that side down

25:24 Speaker 3: in Boston's amazing.

25:25 Speaker 2: I mean, I think.

25:26 Speaker 3: The the Murphy's at a bar as well, didn't they

25:29 Speaker 3: with mcgreevy's or something, which I think shut now, which

25:32 Speaker 3: is a shame. But yeah, yeah, pretty sure it's shut

25:35 Speaker 3: in the pandemic. But yeah, I'd love to go there.

25:37 Speaker 3: But yeah, big up the Murphy's.

25:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, great, great city. And you know, we're, like

25:43 Speaker 1: I said, we're we're just forty five minutes north. We're

25:45 Speaker 1: we're the largest city north of Boston and New England.

25:48 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but yeah, great great music's Actually the

25:52 Speaker 1: hat that I'm wearing right now is a bfraid as

25:54 Speaker 1: a Boston band. But yeah, yeah, we get a lot

25:57 Speaker 1: of Boston guests on the show. But i'd like to

25:59 Speaker 1: get James Adiction, but I don't think it's happening.

26:01 Speaker 2: Ever. You might have to be careful with that.

26:04 Speaker 3: You might be very very very tenderity that it's going

26:06 Speaker 3: to take some negotiating that one.

26:07 Speaker 2: I think there's definitely a skype call that one. Separate rooms.

26:15 Speaker 1: Now, are you guys playing on it? Sounds like you

26:16 Speaker 1: guys play a lot of shows. Do you play a lot?

26:19 Speaker 2: Try to get out and do as much as we can.

26:21 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's all I mean, you know,

26:25 Speaker 2: as I'm sure it is over there.

26:26 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a difficult time over here for live music.

26:29 Speaker 4: A lot of grassroots venues are disappearing and pandemic.

26:33 Speaker 2: And that kind of thing.

26:33 Speaker 4: So yeah, it is tough, but we try and you know,

26:37 Speaker 4: just get out where we can and when we can,

26:39 Speaker 4: and you just get out and see people, and people

26:41 Speaker 4: are always you know, it's still enjoy going out to

26:43 Speaker 4: see live music. And I think the less options they

26:47 Speaker 4: have of places to go, the more they kind of

26:50 Speaker 4: make the.

26:51 Speaker 2: Effort or appreciate it. When they're there. It's life going on.

26:54 Speaker 3: So it does tend to it tends to get a

26:57 Speaker 3: little bit quiet in England now because it's once you're

27:01 Speaker 3: at December and it's sort of like Christmas season. Everybody

27:04 Speaker 3: just wants covers bands and party bands and things like that.

27:07 Speaker 3: So we tend to have like a quieter December and

27:09 Speaker 3: then go back out in January. It's just sort of

27:13 Speaker 3: nobody wants. Nobody wants sort of original acoustic stuff at

27:18 Speaker 3: the moment.

27:18 Speaker 2: But that's all right.

27:19 Speaker 3: We just use the time to record and promote and

27:21 Speaker 3: work on everything else, so don't stop us.

27:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And you did mention earlier too, so you're

27:27 Speaker 1: already you've already started working on the next the next songs.

27:31 Speaker 1: Are you going to do the same approach with these,

27:33 Speaker 1: where you release them as singles that eventually become an album.

27:37 Speaker 3: No, we we've we've we're chucking around ideas at the moment,

27:40 Speaker 3: we're talking about doing again same thing, just setting ourselves

27:44 Speaker 3: up for a problem.

27:45 Speaker 2: We're talking about four.

27:46 Speaker 3: EPs next year, so we're probably going to do for

27:49 Speaker 3: three track EPs once again, once every three months.

27:54 Speaker 1: Yeah.

27:54 Speaker 3: I don't want to set these ridiculous, ridiculous, it makes

27:58 Speaker 3: you work. Yeah, yeah, but we're going to say. Yeah,

28:00 Speaker 3: so that's what we're looking at the moment, and we

28:02 Speaker 3: have been toying. We've calling it the twenty five eight okay,

28:07 Speaker 3: because twenty four to seven would be too easy, So sounds.

28:10 Speaker 1: Beut, gotcha, gotcha?

28:14 Speaker 2: No.

28:14 Speaker 1: I like the I like the idea though of you know,

28:16 Speaker 1: with the EPs, it's kind of a compromise right between

28:19 Speaker 1: the full album approach and then the singles versus the

28:21 Speaker 1: singles that become a full album. You know, that's kind

28:24 Speaker 1: of like a happy medium.

28:25 Speaker 2: What you're like, twelve songs we can stick on an

28:28 Speaker 2: album exactly exactly.

28:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's great. What should before I

28:34 Speaker 1: let you guys go? And I appreciate it. You've been

28:35 Speaker 1: generous with your time. We've kept you on for a

28:37 Speaker 1: while and it's great to talk to you guys. I

28:39 Speaker 1: love the songs, very very catchy, fun to sing along to.

28:43 Speaker 1: What should people know? What should our listeners know about

28:46 Speaker 1: how to find you online? To keep up with everything

28:48 Speaker 1: that you're doing? Obviously hard for our American listeners to

28:52 Speaker 1: get to a show, but you know, but as you're

28:54 Speaker 1: releasing new music, and who knows, maybe you'll maybe you'll

28:57 Speaker 1: come to the US at some point and you'll get

28:59 Speaker 1: to see Boston. But what should our listeners know about

29:02 Speaker 1: how to keep up with you guys online?

29:05 Speaker 2: So we start with that. You know, you set us up,

29:07 Speaker 2: we'll come. You set us up. Some gigs will come

29:10 Speaker 2: nowherries might cost you a fly us out, but.

29:12 Speaker 1: We'll come right right.

29:13 Speaker 3: Really, we're really you know, if ninety five point three

29:16 Speaker 3: you want to pay, and then that's fine, we'll do that.

29:19 Speaker 3: I'll run it by the bus, Keep playing him spinning,

29:23 Speaker 3: keep get him a little, give him too many drinks

29:26 Speaker 3: over Christmas? They have too many, funnally enough, one too

29:30 Speaker 3: many is a song by this brilliant band from New England.

29:34 Speaker 1: That's true.

29:35 Speaker 3: Other than that, we are on all the socials, so

29:38 Speaker 3: we are generally you can find us by searching at

29:41 Speaker 3: NWY band result.

29:44 Speaker 2: Than just starting any search with naked if you.

29:47 Speaker 3: Get if you search naked, Naked without It and singles club.

29:51 Speaker 3: Sometimes the search results aren't actually what you want to

29:54 Speaker 3: look at.

29:55 Speaker 2: Right, But that's just one of them things. We didn't

29:58 Speaker 2: plan that one very well, you see.

30:00 Speaker 3: But yeah, so Instagram is obviously Instagram, dot Instagram, dot com,

30:06 Speaker 3: forward slash w NWY band that same thing for x

30:12 Speaker 3: X's nw I band on Facebook.

30:14 Speaker 2: So find us on there and on all streaming sites

30:17 Speaker 2: as well.

30:17 Speaker 4: The singles club is available, habits, Bright is available, everything

30:22 Speaker 4: is there.

30:22 Speaker 2: So yeah, and band camp as well.

30:24 Speaker 3: If I mean, if people want to want to actually

30:26 Speaker 3: get a hard copy of the CD or both or

30:29 Speaker 3: either CD, we can send them out. You can find

30:32 Speaker 3: them on band camp if you want to do it

30:33 Speaker 3: through that, or just contact us through the socials and

30:36 Speaker 3: we can.

30:37 Speaker 2: We'll organize to send one.

30:38 Speaker 3: Out physical product worldwide, physical products definitely.

30:42 Speaker 1: Yes, outstanding, outstanding. In a moment, I'm going to play

30:45 Speaker 1: this this track, Mallie and then uh, a little bit

30:49 Speaker 1: later after we let you guys go, We're also going

30:51 Speaker 1: to play one too Many to close out the hour,

30:54 Speaker 1: but but we'll let we'll let you guys. You know,

30:56 Speaker 1: are you guys playing it all this weekend? Do you

30:58 Speaker 1: have anything this weekend?

30:59 Speaker 2: We playedlast night.

31:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, we played last night at at a place in

31:05 Speaker 3: in Sorry called Camberly.

31:06 Speaker 2: We played at the Login Lounge, which was really good.

31:08 Speaker 2: Went down really well.

31:09 Speaker 3: As I say, they were they were spinning and they

31:11 Speaker 3: were dancing, so that went really well. So when you

31:14 Speaker 3: play one too Many later, you need to work out

31:17 Speaker 3: where your bit is.

31:18 Speaker 2: We did.

31:19 Speaker 3: We did a radio interview the other week and that

31:21 Speaker 3: the DJ was fading his own vocals up and down

31:26 Speaker 3: for the for the response. So when you play that,

31:29 Speaker 3: when I sing one too Many, you better be singing

31:31 Speaker 3: one too many back.

31:32 Speaker 2: We'll check that later.

31:34 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, interactive, Yes, absolutely, and give Molly a spin

31:42 Speaker 3: Molly Wash. Yes, Molly was the first is the first

31:47 Speaker 3: track on the album? Yes, so she's it's a little

31:51 Speaker 3: bit quiet, but yeah, Molly always goes down worldlive as well.

31:56 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. All right, we're gonna we're gonna

31:59 Speaker 1: play that in the moments, so we'll let you guys go.

32:01 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us Naked Without It.

32:03 Speaker 1: It is wonderful to talk to you two gentlemen. And

32:06 Speaker 1: we'll do this. We'll do this again in the future.

32:07 Speaker 1: It sounds like you know you're already working on new music,

32:10 Speaker 1: so well, we will definitely definitely be having you back.

32:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll be with you. That's fantastic. Thanks for having us.

32:16 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you, we'll talk to you soon.

32:19 Speaker 1: Take care, you got it, Bye bye? All right. That

32:23 Speaker 1: is Naked Without It, And uh, let's play this track.

32:26 Speaker 1: This is This is another catchy one. This is called

32:29 Speaker 1: Molly