Matt Connarton Unleashed: Naked Without It

0:00 Speaker 1: That is quite catchy. Indeed, that is Naked Without It from the UK, and we have these guys on with us via Skype. We're going to introduce them in just in a moment. This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show at Matt connorton dot com slash Live. Jenny is here as well at the news table, president and account and joining us via Skype. We have Tony and Martin from Naked Without It.

0:32 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, can you hear me?

0:34 Speaker 2: Hi? We've got you?

0:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, awesome. It's always a little nerve wracking with a transcontinental Skype call because it doesn't always work out, so it's nice when it does. But great, great to have you guys here with us this morning. So what do you each do in Naked Without It? What are your roles respectively?

0:55 Speaker 3: And I play rhythm guitar and I sing okay, and Martin I play all the other guitar and do a bit of BVS as well.

1:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, very good, very good. Now that song spinning is it's very catchy. And I noticed all your songs are are like that. They're very easy to kind of sing along to. Has that always been, uh? Has that always been kind of them is of naked without it? Have you always written songs that are, you know, just very accessible and just kind of get stuck in your brain? Has that always been been kind of the approach?

1:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

1:30 Speaker 3: We do like a chorus, and we do like a sing along. Yeah, we do like a sing along when we play live. And we started when we started out, well re started out a few years ago. We did a an online interview during COVID, so we did an online interview and I can remember I always say, I can always remember Martin saying to me at the time, you know, just wait, we're the entertainment. So it sort of dawned on me then that, you know, our job really was to entertain. So I've always sort of found there was no point doing heartfelt songs that people aren't going to catch.

2:06 Speaker 3: I suppose there's a place, but for us, it doesn't really work. So we're in to entertain really, and I think a big chorus is a way of entertaining.

2:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, absolutely, I'm interested in. So the these songs that we're playing, these are from an album called Singles Club. Yes, indeed, now tell me if I have this right. And there's a specific reason why this is so interesting to me. This is a series of Did you release these each individually as singles and then compile them into an album called Singles Club? Is that? Was that your approach to this?

2:42 Speaker 2: Yeah? You did?

2:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. The reason I'm so curious about it is because this has been a topic of conversation on the show. You know, I'm old enough to remember, and I suspect you guys are too. When there was really kind of a standard way of doing things. You know, you've got an album coming out, first single goes to radio maybe six to eight weeks before the album's coming out. Then the album comes out, then you have the second single and so forth. And it was, you know, everybody released albums. Somebody might occasionally release an EP, but that's sort of the old record company model.

3:15 Speaker 1: Now we live in an era where, because of the Internet, there's so many different ways you can approach it. You can release albums, you can release EPs, you can just put out singles forever and never release an album. But I've noticed, especially in the past couple of years, a lot of the guests that we have, their approach is, rather than putting out an album and a series of singles, releasing a series of singles that eventually become an album. And it seems like you guys have kind of taken it to a new level where it's like, that's clearly what this is, because you're calling the album Singles Club because it's literally a collection of singles, and I think that's very interesting that you've taken that approach.

3:52 Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly.

3:53 Speaker 3: We back in twenty twenty two, we were talking about what we were going to do because we'd done one album. We did a first album, Habits Far Too Bright, which was along the same lines, along the normal lines, you know, we got it all together, we released it as you should sort of thing, and then I sort of we had a conversation and just sort of said that music's a bit more immediate now. Nobody sort of wants to wait for anything. Everything is done straight away. So we sort of thought, well, we'd, we'd we'd instead of instead of holding things back, what we would do is we would plan to release a single every six weeks.

4:27 Speaker 3: And then at the end of it, we did add the intention of putting out like the Hard Hard CD version. Of course, we didn't actually realize because we didn't work this one out very well. Is that when we decided that in twenty twenty two to do twelve singles, it was going to take us seventy two weeks, So we didn't realized we were actually committing ourselves to a year and a half's work, which was.

4:49 Speaker 2: Recording.

4:49 Speaker 3: You know, we've got a recording, releasing, you know, or the artwork, publicizing, et cetera, and then we're on to the next one and on to the next one.

4:57 Speaker 2: But yeah, we did it.

4:58 Speaker 3: We got we got a little bit random every now and again, but yeah, seventy two weeks later we ended up with the Singles Club album, So yeah, and we're really happy with it.

5:07 Speaker 1: Was that a difficult decision for you both, because obviously, you know, we're all or we all were used to doing it the old way. I mean, it was this something did you put a lot of thought into Is this really the right way to approach it? Or maybe it instinctively just felt right and obvious to you? I mean, was that a difficult decision to come to or did it come easy?

5:30 Speaker 4: I think we thought that, you know, like, because people generally will stream a song or they like a songs, so we thought, if we just keep giving them songs, you know, spaced out rather than just all together, then there's more chats that they might listen to more of what we do, rather than here's an album or that what's the single, I'll listen to that and ignore the rest.

5:48 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and it just it just kept it fresh for us as well.

5:52 Speaker 4: And it was a good, you know, kind of time to keep working on things and you can change things is you know, as you know, you can start with a song, but then over time it might evolve into something slightly differently. So with a six week gap, if you like, in between what we were doing, we did have that luxury of saying, well, actually maybe we should change this a little bit and we can try things out and you know, give a few different ideas. So from a you know, from actually a creative point of view, it was quite helpful rather than we have to get the album done within this amount of time and then once it's done, that's it.

6:20 Speaker 2: Whereas with this, you know, you're only.

6:21 Speaker 4: Doing one song at a time essentially, so yeah, we had a bit more bit more flexibility.

6:26 Speaker 2: So yeah, and we had a.

6:27 Speaker 3: Bit of engagement from like the people that come and see us play because of course they knew something was coming in six weeks time, so people we're asking us when the next one's due? When's the next one jew which which was nice. So yeah, capt Us on our toes really.

6:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see how it would be kind of liberating to to be able to approach it this way. And something else too that we talk a lot about on the show is the importance of adaptability to constantly changing music industry, and in fact, that was a big subject in some ways in the in the in the previous segment that we were doing. So is this going to be the new approach going forward? Do you think you're going to keep doing it this way? Or I mean, obviously you're promoting this album singles Club, these singles that have become an album, So I don't know if you're even thinking that far ahead.

7:15 Speaker 1: But are you thinking about kind of the future or are you in the moments just more focused on promoting what you've what you've just released recently?

7:22 Speaker 3: Well, I mean absolutely, we we had a gig last night, and we basically went into a studio this morning and recorded the basics of like the first three tracks for something that's planned for later on in the year. I mean, I constantly write lyrics. Lyrics just keep coming, so we keep we write them down, and then we work on the ideas.

7:43 Speaker 2: We live about one hundred miles apart.

7:48 Speaker 3: Oh no kidding, so we so we've sort of embraced the technology, so we send each other ideas all the time via WhatsApp, and then so we pass some sort of forwards and backwards like that, and you know, we work on bits at the other end, and then we sort of come together for gigs. We were saying today, we don't really rehearse very much because we just sort of we do. If we do, I rehearse my bits. My rehearses is bits and then and then we bring them together at gigs generally.

8:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're quite.

8:14 Speaker 3: We're pretty disciplined, to be honest. So we're well, i'd say we are. I mean, if you if you see us live, sometimes we're not particularly just discipline. Some of the crowd know the lyrics better than I do. Sometimes just a bit embarrassing, especially when yeah. Sometimes so if I go into the wrong verse and somebody will give me a look from the crowd, and you'd.

8:32 Speaker 2: Be, oh, okay, cheers right right my song, I'll see how I like. You know, that's.

8:39 Speaker 1: Another you know, in terms of being able to send tracks back and forth on WhatsApp. I mean, that's another example of how, you know, being able to adapt to the changing technology and the changing dynamics of the industry is so important. And I always say this comes up a lot too reflecting on the pandemic. You know, the pandemic was terrible, but we have to find these silver linings where we can. And I think one of the one of those few silver linings was it kind of forced people, creative people, I think musicians in particular, to kind of find new ways to create and to and to get comfortable with creating from a distance.

9:15 Speaker 1: Like you guys said, you know, you're one hundred miles apart, and you know, I think for a lot of people pre pandemic, the idea of even being able to work that way, even though the technology was already there and has been there for a while, to be able to, you know, just send tracks back and forth online. I think for I think a lot of people pre pandemic were resistant to that who then became comfortable with it, who now now it's very freeing because it's just another way to create, and to be able to create and collaborate with somebody who is one hundred miles away is really cool.

9:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we did, I mean we did in Lockdown.

9:54 Speaker 3: We sat, we started, we were doing a few there was a few internet radio sort of shows, but we also did sort of gigs at home. Yeah, you know, we we we got into when the times we were toge, we got together and just sort of played played that played an online gig sort of like on Facebook Live or something like that, because it was a way of still getting still getting the gigs done if you do enough promotion before and get everybody sort of aware that it's going to happen and make a.

10:21 Speaker 2: Bit of a party of it. It worked for us. So yeah, that's good.

10:25 Speaker 4: So we released our first EP the week before Lockdown happened. We did, so it wasn't our fault, just so yeah, so we didn't get a chance to go and play it live, and so we had to find a way to do it, you know, still get the music heard.

10:40 Speaker 2: So we did.

10:40 Speaker 4: You know, we did one of those videos where we recall our bit separately pieces together trying to find out how that technology works. Like you're saying, I mean, it was kind of figuring out a lot of stuff very quickly that we could still promote, you know, our new product, because we were.

10:54 Speaker 2: Very excited about it at the.

10:54 Speaker 4: Time and and you know, you want people to hear it. And it was amazingly bad timing from that point.

11:00 Speaker 2: Yeah.

11:00 Speaker 1: Well, well, to be fair, I mean, there's never a good time for a plague. Yeah, you guys also too, So I was reading an in your bio. Did you guys work together previously and then you took a really long break and then came back together in twenty nineteen.

11:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, Yeah, yoga with us. We many years ago.

11:29 Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna be twenty or nearly thirty years ago. I know we don't look that old, but we can't see it's on radio.

11:33 Speaker 2: So we we used we beat.

11:38 Speaker 4: We're in different bands in the same kind of area, and Tony and I we got together and we used to play, you know, just as a duo, just acoustic guitar, and we worked on some stuff and did a couple of gigs and then you know, we kind of went off and you know, moved places, and you know, there's no big falling out, there's no big kind of showbiz argument that we just you know, we just kind of moved and dinner and then the bands that we used to be in, we we had the same drummer in both bands, and he sadly died in twenty nineteen.

12:06 Speaker 4: So we met up at the funeral. At his funeral, had half a glass of sherry and I thought maybe it was time to get the band back together. So and it was kind of funny because we you know, see, we live quite a distance apart, and it went over for the weekend and I put my guitar down in Tony's man cave on the first day and it kind of stayed there. We just, you know, we just hung out and talked and it was almost oft time to go home. So the next day and we said, well, we should probably have a go and see what was just like because I think there was a little bit of apprehension that it had been so long and it was remembered very fondly and you don't know how things are going to be all those years later.

12:46 Speaker 2: For me.

12:47 Speaker 4: It was great because he still had his old songbook that we used to play from back in the day, all the handwritten and lyrics and stuff. Yeah, and so yeah, so we just started playing these songs we hadn't played together in twenty five years and it's still sounded great, and we thought, you know, maybe we've we should pursue this. And you know, so we had some ideas of original songs and we started playing over those and yeah, went to an open mic night and so we'd give it a bash and it went there really well.

13:13 Speaker 2: So we thought, well, you know, do you have if you have an open mic night over there?

13:19 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's very common here.

13:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, so so we we literally went into into my town and there was like an open mic night, and we went up and just sort of played.

13:30 Speaker 2: We did a couple of songs.

13:32 Speaker 3: We played three songs, and then we sort of looked at the fellaw who was comparing it, and just sort of said, you know, should we do another one? And he just he just said, well, play as long as you like, and we were like, oh okay. So we realized then that we obviously had something going on that people liked, so that was where we sort of said, well, let's give it another go, and five years later this is.

13:53 Speaker 2: Where we are older and definitely older. Two albums in.

13:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, so on Singles Club, are any of these songs? Are these new? Or do some of these go back, like way way back.

14:10 Speaker 2: One of them?

14:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the flowers goes way way back. That goes right back to my old band, which was called Just Another Girl, which is an old Johnny Thunders song was up that the band was named after. Okay, so yeah, that flowers goes right back to them. So that's the only one we've kept. The rest of them are all sort of are all new stuff that we've we've been putting together.

14:34 Speaker 2: So but I mean, yeah, I.

14:36 Speaker 3: Mean, Spinning is spinning, Spinning is very recent, Molly's very recent.

14:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant most.

14:45 Speaker 3: Of them are now they're literally in the last sort of year or so. But as we said, we released them as singles going through and now we're sort of we're finding a way to repromote them and they're all coming back through.

14:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's awesome. Do you guys ever perform with their musicians, because obviously as an acoustic duo, there's there's an opportunity there to bring other people up up with you or do you always keep it to just the two of you?

15:10 Speaker 4: It's always, yeah, just the two of us actually, So I mean that's part of our you know thing. I mean it's two two acoustic guitars and two voices really, so yeah, we work hard at is trying to make that as interesting as possible, you know, because we you know, as I would say, we're like a live band, but we're just you know, just two guitars, so we sort of make it quite percussive and and you know, trying to fill out the sound rather than it being that you know, sort of stereotypical you know, strumming away and doing that.

15:34 Speaker 4: So yeah, that we try and make that kind of bring that energy to the acoustic side rather than you know, bringing out other instruments.

15:41 Speaker 3: So yeah, we also like we we also we like to involve the audience. I like to involve the audience. We like to involve the audience a lot. We we've got what's what's the what's the harmony in that they do? Oh in uh in flowers, well in in the song Flowers. When we play Flowers live, it's very strange because there's about four or five people in the audience who've worked out their own back in.

16:05 Speaker 2: Vocals for it, and I always forget.

16:08 Speaker 3: So we played last night in a place called Camberly and we were playing it and I'd forgotten that that they do that. So we come into it and when we it's like an acoustic bit for me, and literally they start with their woe woe woes in the background.

16:21 Speaker 2: You it's just brilliant.

16:23 Speaker 3: And we have another song called one too Many, which I think you've been sent. I'm not sure if you played it, but it's one too Many, and we do that as a call and response song. So basically, we as I said last night, we try and it we don't make it to it's not very it's not singing, it's not there's nothing.

16:42 Speaker 2: Clever about it. Really. I shout one too many, they shout one too many back. But but the.

16:48 Speaker 3: Way it works out, it's worked out very nice because we can then we have if we've if we've got a reasonable audience that will will send like we'll play the left hand side of the audience off against the right hand side of the audience, which is is brilliant.

17:00 Speaker 2: It's brilliant, fun there's some videos on YouTube of that.

17:03 Speaker 3: Actually videos of YouTube snaked out it on YouTube. We did one at the Carlton Tavern and the promoter, Fella Tom Bright, actually filmed it from behind us, so you can see the audience shouting back at us, which is really good. And that's a really good idea that gives you a really good flavor of what we do.

17:23 Speaker 2: Like that must be.

17:24 Speaker 1: That must be such a great feeling too. You know, to have fans, you know, dedicated fans who you know are well one, you know, on one song making up their own backing vocals. That's gonna be amazing.

17:37 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, I mean, as you just played spinning, and we said when when When we first played Spinning, we played it in a little pub in a little place called Bracknell in Barkshit, and we started we started playing, and I always said it sounded like there should be there should be a line dance for it.

17:55 Speaker 2: Or something like that.

17:56 Speaker 3: But when we started playing it, there's a couple that come and see us called Paul and any And one of the first times we played it, Paul literally just got up and started spinning in the chorus, which which is as you say, it's amazing and people don't know the people that if we Like last night, we were supporting a band called three Times seven, so their crowd were there. And because when Paul gets up and start, Paul and keV were both up spinning last night, their their crowd can't really work out what's going on?

18:24 Speaker 3: Why are these people sudden? And that's that's really good. We play as well. We play in we do some Saturday afternoon shows in HMV stores. Okay, so we do them in record shops as well, and we did one in Woking in Surrey a few weeks ago and Paul came. Paul's actually spinning through the aisles of an HMV on Saturday afternoon, which which was quite quite amusing for the shoppers.

18:50 Speaker 2: I promise you security not quite so impressive.

18:54 Speaker 1: Oh that's very cool. That's very cool. When you when you guys played, I imagine, I mean you must have enough material to play a long time, right, Like do you do multi hour shows? Do you do long shows?

19:06 Speaker 2: Well, we could do.

19:09 Speaker 3: The thing is we do we do if we just if we set up our own gigs and we do our own shows, then we do. Then we'll do a long set we'll do two sets. We do then when we can. Generally, as the hmvs are about forty five minutes, if we get support slots, like last night, we've only got like half an hour. So as we said, we just do the bangers. Basically, we do the ones that are going to get people up, get people sing in, and get people entertained, because sometimes being an acoustics show, we sometimes get paired with quiet, nice acoustics sort of you know, you know, not what we're like at all, and we are a little we do see it as a little bit competitive where we will come out, blow the place away, have everybody singing, and then all of a sudden, someone's got to come up and play something really quiet.

19:59 Speaker 2: Which is what was it?

20:01 Speaker 4: A girl said, well, she apologized that she wasn't as cheerful as us.

20:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the next girl that was on after us in one of the London gigs, came on and apologize to the crowd that she wasn't going to be as cheerful as we were.

20:11 Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's great.

20:15 Speaker 4: So when we do those in longer shows as well, because you know, we've got quite a lot of material now and you know, obviously, you always get excited about the newer stuff and you want to play that, and there's always the odd song that we haven't done in ages and someone says, oh, I love that song, you should bring that back, and then we sort of have to go back and go okay, so you know, and that's the thing I think like with any music, once it kind of is out there, it belongs.

20:38 Speaker 2: It doesn't belong to us anymore. You know, we're just kind of playing what people want to hear.

20:43 Speaker 4: Really, so that's that's always quite nice because it's not always what you think, because you can think, well, that's the one that people will love, and actually they picked something else, which is you know, is always an interesting.

20:55 Speaker 2: I was talking with Tom Bright again about that.

20:56 Speaker 3: Funny enough, we were saying about right, because I write the lyrics, so we write and you know, they they mean things to me. But once you once they're out there, as far as I'm once that, well, me and Tom were saying that once they're once they're out there, they're literally that other people will find their own meanings for them. So I'm not precious about the meaning that I have and it will mean something different to other people.

21:19 Speaker 2: So on once they're out there.

21:21 Speaker 3: There, there's there's different meanings they're they're they're out there, there are other people as far as I'm concerned.

21:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that makes sense. I mean art is subjective and everyone can kind of interpret you know that art, whether it be lyrics or anything else however they want. I always, uh, it doesn't. This doesn't happen now, But I remember being a kid, uh and uh not as uh, you know, not understanding these concepts as well. And if I if I thought a song, if I heard a song that I really liked it, I thought meant something specific. It meant something specific to me, and then I read an interview with that author, you know, whoever wrote the lyrics or or or if an author, if it's a if we're talking about instead of a song, about a book or a poem or something, and then it turns out that their intended meaning was different than what I thought it meant, you know, to me the way I interpreted it, I would actually be a little bit disappointed, like, oh I thought it meant this.

22:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. So no, you should be allowed it's yours. You should be allowed to do your own it's up to you. And saying that you know. I'm sure I still know songs that I sort of from various bands over the years and stuff that you know, songs that you're quite attached to. And now once you find out you've been singing the wrong word, you know, sometimes you can get.

22:37 Speaker 2: That's not what I thought it was, and now it's too late.

22:39 Speaker 3: I'm going to carry on singing that because that's what I've been doing for hour long?

22:41 Speaker 2: Does that with his own soul? There you go, yes, very true.

22:46 Speaker 1: Here you go. By the way, what does the name mean naked without It? Where does that come from?

22:52 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you the very short version.

22:54 Speaker 3: Is that Naked without It is a line from a Jane's addiction to Okay from the song Jane says, by Jane's addiction because yeah, we put it together sort of like thirty odd years ago, so that was out at the time, and that was I really like that song. So we stole like the line naked without It from there, but Martin has Martin.

23:16 Speaker 2: Has a really good version as well.

23:18 Speaker 4: So really where it comes from is, like I say, we were both playing in different bands at that time, both like full electric bands, and so we had this little duo. It was just two of us all stripped back, so it was we were naked without all the other instrumentation, and so that's.

23:34 Speaker 2: Really what's And with the Jane, we were pretty exposed.

23:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, and it was you know, it was just us two voices too, same as it is now and so yeah, so it was quite.

23:43 Speaker 2: Exposing to do that. So that's the bands we had.

23:45 Speaker 3: The bands we had before were loud, as we said with the drummer that we had very very loud drummer and and you know it was yeah, it was a far more loud on someone. And then when we appeared, it was just just us two with the acoustics, which was yeah, it was good.

24:00 Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Uh, this is a little off subject. But I'm just curious because you you did bring up Jane's addiction. Did either of you guys ever get to see James addiction before the implosion?

24:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I saw the original in the day. Yeah, yeah, I can always remember when did you ever get to tet to see him?

24:20 Speaker 1: I never got to see them, and you know, when all that happened in Boston. You know, Boston is only about forty five minutes from where we are uh so so so we were we were close to it. But uh but I know I never got to see James Addiction live and it doesn't sound like I'll ever get the opportunity. I don't think that. I don't think they'll be reuniting again after you know, once a Violin.

24:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now I saw.

24:44 Speaker 3: I remember seeing them when they did. They used to finish off the set. I remember doing Bricks and the Academy. They used to finish the set with them just playing like drums across the front of the stage. There was all four of them just playing. It must be on YouTube with brums so yeah, see if you can find out comment what the song was. But it was like it was finished just with like them playing drums across the front. They were amazing, Like I think that's part of Perry Farrell was just a lunatic.

25:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.

25:10 Speaker 3: As you said saying about Boston, I've never been to Boston. I've been New York. I've never been to Boston. I've always wanted to go because I'm a massive drop Kick Murphy's fan. Okay, Street Dogs, everybody over that side down in Boston's amazing.

25:25 Speaker 2: I mean, I think.

25:26 Speaker 3: The the Murphy's at a bar as well, didn't they with mcgreevy's or something, which I think shut now, which is a shame. But yeah, yeah, pretty sure it's shut in the pandemic. But yeah, I'd love to go there. But yeah, big up the Murphy's.

25:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, great, great city. And you know, we're, like I said, we're we're just forty five minutes north. We're we're the largest city north of Boston and New England. But yeah, yeah, but yeah, great great music's Actually the hat that I'm wearing right now is a bfraid as a Boston band. But yeah, yeah, we get a lot of Boston guests on the show. But i'd like to get James Adiction, but I don't think it's happening.

26:01 Speaker 2: Ever. You might have to be careful with that.

26:04 Speaker 3: You might be very very very tenderity that it's going to take some negotiating that one.

26:07 Speaker 2: I think there's definitely a skype call that one. Separate rooms.

26:15 Speaker 1: Now, are you guys playing on it? Sounds like you guys play a lot of shows. Do you play a lot?

26:19 Speaker 2: Try to get out and do as much as we can. I mean, you know, it's all I mean, you know, as I'm sure it is over there.

26:26 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a difficult time over here for live music. A lot of grassroots venues are disappearing and pandemic.

26:33 Speaker 2: And that kind of thing.

26:33 Speaker 4: So yeah, it is tough, but we try and you know, just get out where we can and when we can, and you just get out and see people, and people are always you know, it's still enjoy going out to see live music. And I think the less options they have of places to go, the more they kind of make the.

26:51 Speaker 2: Effort or appreciate it. When they're there. It's life going on.

26:54 Speaker 3: So it does tend to it tends to get a little bit quiet in England now because it's once you're at December and it's sort of like Christmas season. Everybody just wants covers bands and party bands and things like that. So we tend to have like a quieter December and then go back out in January. It's just sort of nobody wants. Nobody wants sort of original acoustic stuff at the moment.

27:18 Speaker 2: But that's all right.

27:19 Speaker 3: We just use the time to record and promote and work on everything else, so don't stop us.

27:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And you did mention earlier too, so you're already you've already started working on the next the next songs. Are you going to do the same approach with these, where you release them as singles that eventually become an album.

27:37 Speaker 3: No, we we've we've we're chucking around ideas at the moment, we're talking about doing again same thing, just setting ourselves up for a problem.

27:45 Speaker 2: We're talking about four.

27:46 Speaker 3: EPs next year, so we're probably going to do for three track EPs once again, once every three months.

27:54 Speaker 1: Yeah.

27:54 Speaker 3: I don't want to set these ridiculous, ridiculous, it makes you work. Yeah, yeah, but we're going to say. Yeah, so that's what we're looking at the moment, and we have been toying. We've calling it the twenty five eight okay, because twenty four to seven would be too easy, So sounds.

28:10 Speaker 1: Beut, gotcha, gotcha?

28:14 Speaker 2: No.

28:14 Speaker 1: I like the I like the idea though of you know, with the EPs, it's kind of a compromise right between the full album approach and then the singles versus the singles that become a full album. You know, that's kind of like a happy medium.

28:25 Speaker 2: What you're like, twelve songs we can stick on an album exactly exactly.

28:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's great. What should before I let you guys go? And I appreciate it. You've been generous with your time. We've kept you on for a while and it's great to talk to you guys. I love the songs, very very catchy, fun to sing along to. What should people know? What should our listeners know about how to find you online? To keep up with everything that you're doing? Obviously hard for our American listeners to get to a show, but you know, but as you're releasing new music, and who knows, maybe you'll maybe you'll come to the US at some point and you'll get to see Boston.

28:59 Speaker 1: But what should our listeners know about how to keep up with you guys online?

29:05 Speaker 2: So we start with that. You know, you set us up, we'll come. You set us up. Some gigs will come nowherries might cost you a fly us out, but.

29:12 Speaker 1: We'll come right right.

29:13 Speaker 3: Really, we're really you know, if ninety five point three you want to pay, and then that's fine, we'll do that. I'll run it by the bus, Keep playing him spinning, keep get him a little, give him too many drinks over Christmas? They have too many, funnally enough, one too many is a song by this brilliant band from New England.

29:34 Speaker 1: That's true.

29:35 Speaker 3: Other than that, we are on all the socials, so we are generally you can find us by searching at NWY band result.

29:44 Speaker 2: Than just starting any search with naked if you.

29:47 Speaker 3: Get if you search naked, Naked without It and singles club. Sometimes the search results aren't actually what you want to look at.

29:55 Speaker 2: Right, But that's just one of them things. We didn't plan that one very well, you see.

30:00 Speaker 3: But yeah, so Instagram is obviously Instagram, dot Instagram, dot com, forward slash w NWY band that same thing for x X's nw I band on Facebook.

30:14 Speaker 2: So find us on there and on all streaming sites as well.

30:17 Speaker 4: The singles club is available, habits, Bright is available, everything is there.

30:22 Speaker 2: So yeah, and band camp as well.

30:24 Speaker 3: If I mean, if people want to want to actually get a hard copy of the CD or both or either CD, we can send them out. You can find them on band camp if you want to do it through that, or just contact us through the socials and we can.

30:37 Speaker 2: We'll organize to send one.

30:38 Speaker 3: Out physical product worldwide, physical products definitely.

30:42 Speaker 1: Yes, outstanding, outstanding. In a moment, I'm going to play this this track, Mallie and then uh, a little bit later after we let you guys go, We're also going to play one too Many to close out the hour, but but we'll let we'll let you guys. You know, are you guys playing it all this weekend? Do you have anything this weekend?

30:59 Speaker 2: We playedlast night.

31:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, we played last night at at a place in in Sorry called Camberly.

31:06 Speaker 2: We played at the Login Lounge, which was really good. Went down really well.

31:09 Speaker 3: As I say, they were they were spinning and they were dancing, so that went really well. So when you play one too Many later, you need to work out where your bit is.

31:18 Speaker 2: We did.

31:19 Speaker 3: We did a radio interview the other week and that the DJ was fading his own vocals up and down for the for the response. So when you play that, when I sing one too Many, you better be singing one too many back.

31:32 Speaker 2: We'll check that later.

31:34 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, interactive, Yes, absolutely, and give Molly a spin Molly Wash. Yes, Molly was the first is the first track on the album? Yes, so she's it's a little bit quiet, but yeah, Molly always goes down worldlive as well.

31:56 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. All right, we're gonna we're gonna play that in the moments, so we'll let you guys go. Thank you so much for joining us Naked Without It. It is wonderful to talk to you two gentlemen. And we'll do this. We'll do this again in the future. It sounds like you know you're already working on new music, so well, we will definitely definitely be having you back.

32:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll be with you. That's fantastic. Thanks for having us.

32:16 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you, we'll talk to you soon. Take care, you got it, Bye bye? All right. That is Naked Without It, And uh, let's play this track. This is This is another catchy one. This is called Molly