Matt Connarton Unleashed: The Forest Forgets

0:00 Speaker 1: That is the new single from the Forest Forgets that it's called with Grace, And we're going to talk to these guys the Forest Forgets. I'll bring those mics up. Welcome guys, Thank you, thank you, absolutely absolutely so let's start with We'll start with you, sir in the corner. If you could, uh tell us who you are and what you do in the band.

0:20 Speaker 2: James and I play the drums in the band.

0:22 Speaker 3: Hi, James, and you, I'm Brennan and I played bass Brennan yep.

0:26 Speaker 1: Oh how do you spell that E R E N A? Do people often think that? Like, uh, do people call you Brandon? Bye? Yeah?

0:35 Speaker 2: I figured out, or I get Brent oh do yeah, which is crazy.

0:40 Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's funny.

0:42 Speaker 4: And you, sir, and I'm Brandon, not right, I play.

0:46 Speaker 1: Guitar, okay, and you Griffin, I apologize. Let me pull that mic up a little bit more. You're on the you're on the weird mic. Go ahead and talk. Hell O, there we go. Now we can hear your dulcin tones. Yes, very good, very good. Well, welcome guys. Now, of course, now some of you have been on the show before because there was a previous band after image, and how many of you were in after image? Was it three of you? Or yeah?

1:09 Speaker 2: It was three of you?

1:10 Speaker 1: Okay? And then so out of that came the Forest for Guts. Now, how long has the Forest Forgets existed since October?

1:20 Speaker 2: Okay longer than that, yeah, I guess almost.

1:23 Speaker 5: Since October, I believe for November.

1:25 Speaker 1: So this is pretty new and for people watching online of course, uh, you know, we'll we'll take a picture afterward. But you guys brought me a copy of the new the new EP, so very nice of wind and willow and so well, let's start with the obvious questions. So where does the name come from the Forest Forgets?

1:46 Speaker 5: It's I think it was based off of like where we're from is a state we wanted, like a nature theme, Yeah, like being in New Hampshire, the White Mountains, the forest and everything around us.

1:55 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:56 Speaker 5: I think kind of an interesting thing about bands is like regionality and with that comes like sound and expectations. So you think about California, there's like a sound, right Ritschfield, there's a sound. You think about you know, Boston there's like a punk scene as a sound. You think in New Hampshire. I think it's very vague, but I think there's a lot to tap into, especially for like the genre that we're trying to do, like a more slower, ambient post metal sound. So it came from that, like having that nature theme but the forest forgets itself.

2:25 Speaker 5: James came up with that. It's from a saying do you remember the same.

2:29 Speaker 2: The saying is the acts forgets, but the tree remembers.

2:33 Speaker 1: Okay, oh interesting.

2:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's just kind of it was more of a statement about like I don't know, passage of time, I guess, and it's kind of like a trope in media and like post apocalyptic or like where humanity's gone, like nature kind of overtakes human construction, like cities become forests again after a long time. Okay, do what you can while you're here, but in the end, eventually everything kind of goes back to where it came.

3:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. No, I like that. And I noticed too with the imagery looking at pictures of you guys online and such, it's you really kind of bring that theme, the forest theme, and everything everything's kind of dark, you know, like it's like it's actually hard and it's not a complaint. It's a. It's a cool thing, but it's it's hard to find a picture of you guys. Maybe maybe there as a band, Maybe there are some that I just didn't see where it's like bright and you know, you can clearly see everybody.

3:30 Speaker 1: It's like you kind of like you've kind of done this mysterious thing that I think is cool.

3:34 Speaker 5: Yeah. A lot of that was Victoria Comerford, her hit, Brandon's girlfriend. Okay, there's a lot of favors for us coming out doing photography.

3:42 Speaker 4: Oh, very cool photography.

3:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pretty much everything we posted.

3:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that gonna be the theme going for? Like you think you're gonna stick with that?

3:50 Speaker 3: Uh?

3:50 Speaker 1: Or or maybe it'll evolve over time or I don't know. I mean it's like I said, it's kind of a cool thing, a little little bit of mystery, and.

3:56 Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll have its own Yeah, things go on. But I think that's kind of the the gist of the vibe we're going for.

4:03 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I like the I like the mistique of it. Now the songs from After Image, have any of those carried over into the forest Forgets or is this all new or what's what's been your approach as far as.

4:17 Speaker 4: That, Uh, it's it's all new stuff. We wanted to just do something like kind of like from scratch. Yeah, a whole new sound and interpretation of like instruments and what we can do with them.

4:30 Speaker 1: Yeah.

4:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the biggest thing with that is we've changed the tunings. I think we mostly playing like drop c now oh okayet of like standard tuning. So yeah, yeah, it's a lot lower and heavier. Yeah aggressive, I guess.

4:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. And Jenny was commenting to how much she loves your guitar playing, and it's got a very distinctive kind of kind of sound and vibe to.

4:51 Speaker 4: Which is really cool. It's like one of my favorite comments compliments.

4:56 Speaker 1: Very nice. And you've got a excuse, I promise, I'm not sick. I was sick, but I've got that lingering, you know, you get that lingering. Cough. It sucks. So the video now, tell us about the video for with Grace, because that's that's pretty it's kind of kind of heavy. It's it's got a got a heavy, heavy theme to it. That was kind of griffin really.

5:19 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. It was reactionary to what was going on with my grandparents passing away. Oh okay, Yeah, so I wanted to kind of create like an external expression of that weird sense of grief you get when you watch two loved ones kind of fall apart in front of you.

5:41 Speaker 1: Yeah.

5:42 Speaker 5: So it felt really cathartic to do.

5:45 Speaker 6: So.

5:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, and from what I've been told, I think it articulates and translates very well for people that watch it.

5:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree, yeah, definitely.

5:53 Speaker 5: Yeah, it just felt like, honestly, like kind of lightning in the bottle. Like how it all came out, it was very It was all gorilla filmmaking. Yeah, Like Dylan Williams came out and we have a friend that owns an island, so he just came out on a boat and like filmed filmed me just up as an old man, and he just pieced it together.

6:13 Speaker 1: And yeah, how long did it take? Was that all done in one day or because there's a lot to.

6:19 Speaker 5: It, that was two days of shooting. The first day was like twelve hours and the second day was an hour and a half.

6:24 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wow.

6:26 Speaker 5: Yeah it was. It was a pretty daunting task that first day. A lot of coordination, especially with like the makeup and like I had to shave my face yeap. Victoria Comerford also did the makeup for my face as well. Excellent ageify me and make it be more believable, right, I think it workedsu. I've had a couple of people ask me the like, is that you are you the old man?

6:42 Speaker 1: Yeah?

6:43 Speaker 5: It looks so different.

6:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I wasn't sure really watching it. I wasn't sure. I thought. I mean, I thought so, but I wasn't sure.

6:50 Speaker 4: That's awesome yeah either, yeah me neither. I wasn't.

6:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that was really well done. Is that what the song is about too?

6:57 Speaker 5: One of the interpretations, Yeah, I know. It's it's hard because like my mom had her when I showed her, she had a very specific interpretation of it, and I kind of felt like I didn't want to like take that away from her by getting for my version of it. But for me, that song was written to my fiance. It's a it's a love song, okay, okay about her being really tough on herself.

7:19 Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted to.

7:20 Speaker 5: Give her a little love letter and say stop it. Life's going to be okay, right right.

7:26 Speaker 1: That's yeah, No, that's cool, and that's that's The thing too about music is you know, everybody can kind of take it and interpret it however they want. And it's I've always thought it's interesting, you know, for me for and I don't know, Jenny might be able to relate to this too, as as gen xers. We grew up in a time where a lot of the music that was popular there was no room for interpretation. Yeah, Like, you know, my my all time favorite band is Kiss. But when you listen to a Kiss song, there's no misunderstanding what what they're what their dog about, you know, but there are there are a couple of exceptions to that.

8:04 Speaker 1: But but generally, you know, there's no misunderstanding. But but I remember really finding it fascinating in the nineties when the grunge era started that, you know, and a lot of these bands like Pearl Jam for example, it's like you you know, you listen to the lyrics and it's like, uh, I just remember having conversations with friends about you know, well, I think the song means this or this is what it means to me, and different people bringing different interpretations to it. And and ever since then, I've always been fascinated by the way that yeah, I don't know if any if any of you have ever experienced this, but if you ever, you you uh, listen to a song, you hear the lyrics or maybe you look up the lyrics and they they mean something to you, and then you you read an interview with whoever wrote the song and they say it means something completely different than what your interpretation was, and then there's that little part of you that goes, oh, you know what I mean.

9:02 Speaker 1: And in the end, it doesn't matter because it's art and it's subjective and it means to you whatever it means to you. But but I've experienced that too, that feeling of oh it means that I thought it meant this other thing.

9:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't kind of take away like the engagement for the listener. Yeah, like my personal experience that gave the song that weight. It's like you can still apply it, but now you know the direct intention, right, so you can't invest as much of yourself into.

9:27 Speaker 1: It, right, right? Yeah? Exactly exactly? Is that? Are all of your songs kind of like that where you can you know, sort of interpret them different ways? I mean, that's that's that's my impression of your music. It's like, you can you can really kind of put read into it whatever you want to.

9:46 Speaker 2: And yeah, I would say I think that's one of Griffin's strong points is his lyricism has always been really thought provoking. Yeah, and it's not kind of late. It's not late on in front of you. You do kind of have to give it a couple listens and you know, digest it.

10:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

10:04 Speaker 2: So I think it carries through most of the songs.

10:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, outstanding. Now what is the writing, So Griffin, do you write all the lyrics or lyrics? Yeah?

10:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, just about I mean he I'm terrible at grammar, Yeah, terrible are you?

10:19 Speaker 1: Yeah?

10:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, So James is like my retroactive editor coming like this word doesn't make any sense. It makes sense here, right. So it is a collaborative effort. I get, I print out all the lyrics and I let them read it because I want them to kind of get in that space with me I go to record. But it is collaborative. I'd say James definitely steps up to the plate a lot and kind of like helps me find what I'm trying to hit.

10:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then do the lyrics come first and then the music or no, okay, it's all music.

10:53 Speaker 5: It's very reactive to the music.

10:55 Speaker 1: Okay, that.

10:58 Speaker 5: It's not really learned. I guess it's more so just habitual over time.

11:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it becomes instinctive.

11:03 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I feel like writing slam poetry and then trying to like that onto a song it can be very clunky, So I try to base it around the song itself.

11:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that makes sense. And then so how does the music come about? What's the process there?

11:17 Speaker 4: There's a couple different ways, I think. For for with Grace, it was actually a song that James programmed in was it like Ableton and it sounded completely different than what it ended as, But he brought that idea to us and we took all the parts we liked and then kind of added what we could to make it sound more like the other stuff we had written. Yeah, but I think was it. The other three were pretty much just us jamming on with whatever we could come up with, yeah, and taking the parts we liked.

11:51 Speaker 4: We what we started doing was we record every practice, so we would have like a like a couple hour jam session or something, and then it was usually Griffin as the ring leader and listening back to it and like grabbing little clips and timestance and saying I think this would be cool with like minute fifty of this jam going into like the first minute of like the second jam or whatever, and it was just kind of like pieced together that way.

12:15 Speaker 1: Yeah.

12:16 Speaker 5: Well, such a new band, you got to like learn how to engage with each other and interact with each other. I think it was very helpful for someone to kind of like get that ball rolling, right because we're writing new stuff now and it's not like that at all. It's very really yeah, it's very like, let's sit in the space, let's build this song together. Kyle is no like head orchestrator.

12:36 Speaker 1: Yeah.

12:37 Speaker 5: Now it's all like one hundred percent collaborative. But the EP, we were all so new to each other. Yeah, well we're also new to the band, right right, Yeah, like that, I think it made it easier and more concise for one person to kind of like lead the ship regards, so James coming in with pretty much with Grace road mapped out, it was very helpful And I think I kind of did that role too, like the other songs just kind of like orchestration stuff. But now it feels very collaborative.

13:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh cool, cool, very cool. Where do you guys record because everything sounds amazing.

13:07 Speaker 4: We record over at Blackhart Studios, yes, which I work there with Eric, Oh you do, okay, Yeah, and infrequently, but yeah, we went there and we did what was it like two days for instruments and then like another day for vocals. But yeah, I love that. I love that space. It feels like it almost feels like a home away from home. How much time I've spent there, no kidding. The familiarity with everything just made everything super easy for me to like engineer and get us going as quickly as possible.

13:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Eric on the show a number of months ago, and it was it was great to finally have him on because you know, I kept telling him, dude, your name comes up all the time on my show. We got to get you on. So yeah, that was so you you work there with him, you, Yeah.

13:53 Speaker 4: Usually what ends up happening is if he's busy doing something, I'll come in and I'll do like the recording for the most part, okay, the stuff that he'll end up mixing and mastering. But oh, there's been a couple of projects I've done mastering and mixing on for them, like Dead Harrison.

14:07 Speaker 1: I think we Yeah, we were talking about that off are Yeah, our friend's Dead Harrison, Yeah, which they were.

14:12 Speaker 4: They were a lot of fun to uh to work with.

14:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they're great. Yeah, I've known them forever and yeah we often play there while They've been on the show a bunch of times, and of course and they're also a part of uh, you know, the Midnight Creatives Collective and Terminus Underground in Nashua. And yeah, I love that uh that song Terror Grinder, Yeah, I love that song.

14:32 Speaker 4: That one and Monolith Florid. I think that's my favorite off of that.

14:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, those are those are great. Those are great.

14:37 Speaker 7: I was lucky enough to have my paintings on display there last month and there's a cool video of them. It was all of my darkest paintings and this is cool video with Dead Harrison playing in the background because they're their practice room was right on the other side of the wall.

14:51 Speaker 4: That's awesome.

14:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we should, Uh let's play another studio track from the new release, but I will uh, I'll let you guys pick what should we where should we go next?

15:04 Speaker 4: Brendan, you pick probably peel Back, Feel Back, Okay.

15:09 Speaker 1: And uh, why why do you. Uh, why do you choose this one? Is there any any particular reason or or is there a story about the song we should.

15:15 Speaker 3: Know or it's it's my personal favorite. But apart from that, it's just the first track.

15:22 Speaker 1: Okay.

15:23 Speaker 4: It was like it was between that and with Grace for a single.

15:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were, we were defeating it for a long time. Oh okay, Oh excuse me, I apologize for my voice. Uh yeah, So I'll hurry up and get to the track so I can clear my throat. Here we go.

15:38 Speaker 4: This is peeled.

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17:36 Speaker 8: All the same.

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18:35 Speaker 6: For your h my pride.

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18:42 Speaker 6: Great not to day.

18:44 Speaker 1: Wherebout just stay where thout.

18:55 Speaker 12: Just stay for those rounds? Sures you are jermy sick.

19:19 Speaker 8: Ji sigar.

19:22 Speaker 6: Joy secret wou.

20:17 Speaker 1: Oh that is so good. That is peel back the band is the Forest Forgets And we have The Forest Forgets here with us live in studio this morning, and what a great track. And yeah, that's a perfect opener for the EP. That is absolutely fantastic. So I can see, uh, I can see why you guys went with that. Yeah, it grabs you right away.

20:35 Speaker 2: I love.

20:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that is so good. And that uh that solo at the end, man, it's really really good, really good. If you are dis joining us, of course, we do have The Forest Forgets here with us live in studio. And now do you guys plan to are you going to be recording more soon or are you just kind of I mean, obviously this has been out for a relatively short time, right the the new EP.

21:04 Speaker 5: Well, the first single dropped Thursday.

21:07 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh so very new.

21:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the EP actually fully releases next Friday. Okay, it's like a little teaser for everybody.

21:14 Speaker 1: Oh very good.

21:17 Speaker 7: Is this a world premiere on radio?

21:19 Speaker 1: Yes, very good. Week, We do love, We do Love The world radio premieres here on the show. So that's wonderful. Are you guys already writing stuff, because you strike me as you probably write a lot. I'm guessing you've got a lot of tunes. Yeah, we have a lot of like, we have a lot of.

21:38 Speaker 4: Getting longer, yeah, right, less and less digestible.

21:44 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have like sixteen minutes worth of music, but it's two songs.

21:47 Speaker 9: Right.

21:49 Speaker 5: In terms of like going back to record, I think we're probably not going to go back for a little bit. Yeah, like a year, eight months. I'm actually just talking to the guys about it in the group chat yesterday. I feel like an EP has like eight on's worth of legs until people like Okay, So our main goal right now is to play out, start playing some shows, yea, develop a live set, get in that space consistently. Yeah, we can once we start.

22:11 Speaker 2: What now that we can show people what we're playing.

22:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, now that we people know what we sound like, right right, demos on band camp Yeah, But for the newer material that we are working on, I definitely want to approach it from a live setting with Brandon's mixing. The whole goal was like live, Yeah, this is how we sound live.

22:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you guys haven't played out yet or we've played what three shows too? Okay? So we've done three.

22:35 Speaker 5: Shows, yeah, three shows in nine months. Okay, it's been pretty sparse, but nobody knows what we sound like.

22:40 Speaker 1: Right, right exactly? Yeah, yeah, so that, yeah, this is all new. And what went into the decision to do an EP because you know a lot of the guests that we have on the show, they approach it different ways. You know, you can do an EP, you can do a full album, you can do some people now they just release a series of singles that eventually become an album. What what went into that decision to do an EP.

23:05 Speaker 3: I think it was just like we wanted to get stuff out quickly, Yeah, and we didn't want to have eight or ten tracks to put on an album, right, and we didn't want to have as little as a single. Yeah, because we had a lot of stuff working. Yeah, yeah, that had a consistent sound.

23:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, the songs together work well. You know, I can see why you would want to put them together instead of just putting them out of singles necessarily.

23:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very consistent project, I think.

23:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely, No, that makes a lot of sense. Do you have another video that you're working on or I mean, I know this one again. I know with Grace Jeff came out, but no.

23:43 Speaker 5: Las one was a tour de force yeah, on all fronts. Yeah, so I felt like for an EP, like here's a nine minute short film that you know, I was talking to the guys the other day about maybe doing something a little bit smaller, a little bit smaller in scale for like another single, right, but as of right now, it's just with Grace. We kind of felt like that was like a statement piece. Come out with a bang. Yeah, here's a concept, it's all cohesive, it all ties in YEP and again legs like, it's got four songs.

24:13 Speaker 5: Here's a nine minute video. So if I were to do another, that'd be like fifteen minutes for a twenty five minute EP. Right, it's a little crazy. But we do have more like behind the more content about how we made the EP and like behind the scenes on the video itself, because we still want to like give people something to engage with. But in terms of like artistic expressions through the form of a music video, I think that's probably going to be it for now.

24:35 Speaker 1: Yeah.

24:35 Speaker 5: I think now the direction is just let's play live.

24:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. And then what was the Oh, so, what what do you have? Like, do you have shows coming up?

24:47 Speaker 5: Do you have do you have some shows booked or if we have two shows booked in December, Okay, I don't. I think you know more details about those than I do.

24:55 Speaker 4: All I know is that they're more than likely happening.

24:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, nothing to announce.

25:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, a single dropping. We've had a lot of people reach out and they're like, hey, play a show. So yeah, it's kind of naturally occurring.

25:08 Speaker 1: No, I'm curious, curious to see you guys live big time, me too. Absolutely, we should also talk about too, So I don't know they will necessarily play it. But there was a track run here that's that is different than the others. Yeah, catching the big Fish in the vast purple Sea. That's kind of an ambient. There's no lyrics of that, correct from what I.

25:27 Speaker 4: Call it's it's all all guitar.

25:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's all guitar.

25:31 Speaker 4: Sound sources that I found and recorded. I think it's my favorite sound that I put in there is my drag machine. Oh really, like my drag machine in my apartment.

25:43 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:43 Speaker 4: I had like a like it was like a pair of pants that and coins in there, and it was just making this funny sound. Yeah, And I recorded it one day and then I was mixing it, and I was like, I think that'd be fun to throw in there.

25:52 Speaker 1: Yeah.

25:53 Speaker 4: Nice, but yeah, that's just ambient guitar.

25:55 Speaker 10: It was.

25:57 Speaker 4: It was something I think Griffin had me do for our first video.

26:02 Speaker 5: At first, like we do a YouTube series called Broots Remain. It's just kind of like about us as a band. Yeah, it's all self produced. It's you know, I wouldn't expect much from it, but I was like, hey, can you just like make this ambient guitar track just so I have some space to fill And then and.

26:18 Speaker 4: Then I I think I did it at the practice space and we all kind of liked like the like the vibe of it. And the first show we played, we actually we in the middle of this that we just stopped and I sat on the ground and just played you know, ambient guitar for what like five five minutes. Yeah, I think that's right.

26:35 Speaker 13: And then.

26:37 Speaker 4: I don't know, I really liked it and I wanted to have it on the EP. So when it was like almost a complete afterthought in the studio, like we were all wrapped up and I was like, wait, I got one more thing to do, and it was just like one take of improv guitar with layers of reverb.

26:52 Speaker 1: Yeah.

26:53 Speaker 5: I think it's one of those songs feeling it as opposed to listening to it like live, feeling all that running around you, right, Yeah, very transcendental. I guess I would say, I don't know if that's the word, James, but I'm trying.

27:07 Speaker 4: Because I got the I got the name actually from it's a quote from the filmmaker David Lynch, the way he approaches making films that he'll do transcendental meditation. Oh, he thinks of himself fishing for ideas in like a large purple ocean.

27:23 Speaker 1: I didn't know that about David Lynch, but if you told me, I guess a director who approaches it this way, I would probably guess it was David Lynch. Yeah, that's interesting, that's interesting. Well, let's all the time goes so quick. Let's I want to make sure we get the rest of these and let's listen to disintegrate. Sure, you guys were kind enough to provide a radio edit, so appreciate that. But no, this is another great track. I really love this a lot. If you are just joining us, we have the forest Frigets here with us live in studio, and here's another track from their new EP.

27:54 Speaker 1: And this track is called dist a great check it out.

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30:15 Speaker 9: No, this body's shoting down.

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32:31 Speaker 14: Nothing nothing, We'll erase this end.

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32:44 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm that is disintegrate And the band is The Forest Forgets, and we have The Forest Forgets here with us alive in studio and uh we're talking off air. Uh Griffin, you were saying that song has your favorite scream.

32:57 Speaker 5: On the ev in it Ye, that last one at the end of the high one. Yeah, it felt very Chino Deaftnes kind of. Yeah, those whistle note screams he does. Yeah, it's just satisfying.

33:06 Speaker 1: I'm always impressed by that when I hear a vocalist who can do that. Do you do anything to kind of like, do you have to do anything to really take care of your throat to pull that off without, you know, without damaging your vocal cords? Like like like most people if they just said, oh, I'm gonna do that, you know, they'd end up, like, you know, harming their throat.

33:25 Speaker 5: How do you approach that technique and balance I guess, like balance of pressure and diaphragm and whatnot.

33:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just don't.

33:33 Speaker 5: You don't push that hard to get those sounds. Yea, it's more the technique and Mike the mic does a lot of the work. If I were to do that in the room, it would sound pretty different. Yeah, compression and everything. I think that's a big thing when, like, especially when I was first starting out, it was like, how do I get this to sound like that? Well, there's a lot of tricks that go into it, right, that big bands can do consistently that you can't really do in a basement in Nashua.

33:57 Speaker 10: Yeah.

33:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you learn to do it correctly, you can do it without hurting yourself.

34:02 Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, I mean any great technique you do something every day, you could have the best technique in the world. But like as far as I can tell, big bands that have to tour two hundred days out of the year, it doesn't really matter how good your technique is, because you're gonna get hurt after a while. It's gonna wear down.

34:19 Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Have you always? Has that always been your approach vocally to mix it, you know, the singing with the you know, the aggressive the screams and all that.

34:30 Speaker 5: I'd say, so, yeah, first, starting out, I didn't really know how to do anything. Yeah, and then I found bands like Tool and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do that like bark Yell he does yeah. And I found Deftones. I'm like, that's cool. Yeah, I'm gonna start doing that. And then we've been listening to this band Sumac, which is uh, I don't know the band isis the band isis yeah right yeah, and Turner he does all the the low like false chord guttural stuff. Oh k, I'd have been on that kick, just kind of picked things I like and see if I can do them in my own way, I guess yeah.

35:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh there's a song too that which was a song we played earlier that James, you do some some of the harmony, because I think we talked about that off air with Grace. Yeah, oh with Grace. Yeah. So you're on that too vocally with the.

35:13 Speaker 2: Last chorus, I kind of no, I'm in both yah yeah yeah, the last one it has that really hidden the third harmony in the last chorus.

35:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I kind of add some texture to it. Is that Is it just on that track? Is that the only one where you've got a vocal? Yes? Yeah? Will you be doing that live too? Like when when you guys play that live?

35:31 Speaker 4: Will you be?

35:32 Speaker 2: We've been feeling it out, uh in the practice space. I think we started doing that after we were in the studio, just to see how it would be. So there's a chance eventually that I might start doing some of the harmonies, even the harmonies that Griffin was doing. But that's a little touch and go right now. I don't know if we're going to end up there.

35:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it might be tricky to pull off, but yeah, it's funny to you. Guys were talking about, uh, Morgan's storage. You have a practice space there, and it's funny. I was remembering the I was in some bands that had rehearsal space there and the pain of when you're trying to do something and you've got a band right next door who's very loud. And I was talking with I was there actually a couple of weeks ago. I went to meet with I don't know if you guys know the band day to attend, but I was in their practice space, and I swear it was so familiar that I think it might have been the same room, one of the rooms that I had there years ago.

36:32 Speaker 1: But yeah, they were talking about that too. How sometimes it's such a challenge because there's so many bands in there, you know, and if you've got somebody right next door to you who's loud or I mean, I know there's I don't know if there's any you know, if there's any recording studios currently in there. I know there has been in the past, and I don't even know. I don't even know how they managed to do it, even with a lot of soundproofing.

36:52 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of bands over there right now. I'd be surprised if anybody's trying to record anything.

36:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Uh do you guys, I assume you rehearse on a pretty consistent basis because your music is you know, it's it's complex, it's not you know, it's not like a three chord thing that you can just pick up every you know, every few weeks, right, you guys must probably every week.

37:15 Speaker 5: I would think we for the past eight months we were doing three nights a week. Yeah, that's good, just to get the ball rolling.

37:22 Speaker 1: Yeah.

37:22 Speaker 5: Yeah, and with the EP out, we're dropping it down to two nights a week. Yeah, a long day on Sundays and yeah, two and a half hour thing on Wednesdays.

37:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, writing day and then like a rehearsing day, I guess.

37:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah, because image I would imagine with what you're doing, if you take too much time off, it's probably hard to really.

37:39 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you don't want to lose Yeah, especially with the writing process. Yeah yeah, sure, you've got to be in that headspace consistently.

37:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. You guys do any covers or strictly original or when you when you are playing out on a regular basis, will you be doing strictly originals?

37:55 Speaker 2: Do you think?

37:55 Speaker 5: Or probably?

37:56 Speaker 4: I think strictly originals. We tried playing a couple of covers the first couple of practices when we first got together. Yeah, but I mean that was back in what November? That the last time we played a cover songs back in November. So yeah, I think it's gonna be all originals.

38:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. That's good. Before we run out of time, because I do want to make sure we get this last track. And let's see, we haven't played Chemo yet. And I'm curious to ask you too, because we're gonna play it with a name like that. Is there a story behind this?

38:29 Speaker 8: Uh?

38:30 Speaker 1: Behind the song?

38:34 Speaker 5: I read a couple of years ago that like every seven years, every cell on your body body has regenerated, so you're like not the same person. It's like that paradox of like the ship you replace, every board is at the same ship. Right, So if you've like been through experiences in the past that kind of leave a sour taste in your mouth, there's the reassurance that like there will be a version of you that hasn't been like touched interest.

39:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's so, that's that's what the song is about.

39:04 Speaker 5: I'd say effectively.

39:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've read that too. Actually, yeah that's interesting. Yeah, so we'll listen to that in a moment when we close out the segment. But uh, the other thing too. I want to make sure that people know where to find you guys online, where's the best place to go, how they can keep up with everything that you're doing, how they can get the music.

39:21 Speaker 10: This is?

39:22 Speaker 1: Is this refresh my memory?

39:23 Speaker 13: Is this?

39:24 Speaker 1: This isn't quite out yet available as a fullyp yet online.

39:28 Speaker 5: Not on streaming. No, okay, you pick up physical copies at the Music Connection in Manchester.

39:32 Speaker 1: Oh excellent.

39:34 Speaker 5: And I think we're going to get them over to bull Moose eventually because they have a new one and I don't remember where they just they closed the one and sale and they moved it to somewhere else.

39:42 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, they just moved right the Salomon Yeah.

39:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, Newberry Comics eventually. Too good. We're gonna talk to them. We got to figure that out though.

39:49 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:49 Speaker 2: The fully drops on the twenty seventh. That's correct, okay, and it'll be available on all the major streaming websites we have, be Camp, Spotify, iTunes.

40:03 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I found Deezer by accident. I was googling one.

40:11 Speaker 10: You know.

40:12 Speaker 1: Every once in a while I'll just google Matt Conderton Unleashed to see if there's anything about the show, like if the show is Sometimes the show shows up places I don't know about. Yeah, that's literally how I found out about Deezer. I googled the show one day, and a link to Deezer pops up, and I'm like, oh, my show is on Deezer And I had no idea, but which is fine. It's great, you know, if somebody finds it that way. But yeah, but uh no, it's cool too that you're doing physical copies, because you know, not everyone does.

40:43 Speaker 1: Although I feel like lately most of the guests that we've had on do do physical copies. It seems like I feel like, maybe I don't know, five or six years ago, like there was a space a time where a lot of people were just kind of like, eh, do we really need to do physical copies? Everything's digital now, But I think it kind of came back, you know, people still like to have something they can, especially with I don't know if you guys have any plans to do vinyl in the future, but it seems like vinyl now a lot of a lot of our guests.

41:11 Speaker 1: It's it's expensive to do it, but they'll do vinyl, you know, which is really just for the diehards, because I think most people, if they buy vinyl, they probably never even open it. They just want to have it because if you really like, if you're a big fan of that artist, it's cool to have it. But you know, to actually have a record player and then open the vinyl up and put it on, it's probably not something people do, but but it's but it's.

41:31 Speaker 4: Cool to have the exception of that oh yeah record vinyl, Oh no kidding, yeah, night, just flipping through the oh no kidding, different things.

41:41 Speaker 1: Oh cool. Cool.

41:41 Speaker 4: I'd love to have a vinyl of our stuff, but as you said, it's ridiculously expensive. Oh yeah, yeah, maybe some day, yeah someday.

41:49 Speaker 10: Yeah.

41:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. You got to sell a lot of them to recoup the cost of it, that's for sure. Yeah, but uh no, But I think it's cool that you have a physical CD and I appreciate you bringing that in absolutely. We Actually we do have a CD player here. I never use it, but I think the only one that uses it is Rob as a veto. He does a show here on Friday nights at six called Granted State of Mind. I don't know if you know Rob. He also interviews local artists and but he actually uses the CD player. I think I used it once.

42:13 Speaker 1: It does work, but but I don't even have one. I don't have one at home. Well, right, Jenny, you don't have anything to play. I'm I'm my old Mac that will play CDs.

42:24 Speaker 2: That's the one we use.

42:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's but it's good to have. It's good to have. And of course if you have an older car too. CD players still still exist in older vehicles, but so we will. And of course you guys are very easy to find if you google the forest for gats with content right right, which is good. Good to pick a name that you know you're not going to be fighting anybody over. No, but I really appreciate you guys coming in. We'll definitely have to do this again in the future, and thank you all four of you.

42:56 Speaker 1: And we will close out the segment with this another great track and the uh oh I should mention too the name of the EP of Wind and Willow. Any particular meaning of the name of the EP, by the way, No.

43:09 Speaker 5: It just felt like a cool visual. Yeah, you know, the sound of music when she's like standing in the grass and it's like a noll blowing.

43:15 Speaker 9: Yeah.

43:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess in my mind it's where I wanted my grandparents to go.

43:19 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, okay, okay, oh very nice. All right, so we will close with this track. Guys, thank you again and thank you very much. Here it is The Forest Forgets Chema.